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Title: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tamatron on May 30, 2007, 11:14:03 AM
Onna ni Sachi Are
「女に 幸あれ」

First press A (+DVD):EPCE-5483/84 1,680
First press B (+booklet):EPCE-5485 1,260
Regular edition:EPCE-5486 1,050

http://www.netdirect.co.jp/search/ISSSchDetail.asp?ISBN=EPCE5483
http://www.netdirect.co.jp/search/ISSSchDetail.asp?ISBN=EPCE5485
http://www.netdirect.co.jp/search/ISSSchDetail.asp?ISBN=EPCE5486
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: shadowstar on May 30, 2007, 11:26:56 AM
At this point with Momusu, I don't mind if it's going to be a ballad, up-beat and dancey, etc. as long as it's good  8)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jompuan on May 30, 2007, 11:39:18 AM
I hope Linlin and Junjun are in it!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Ayabie on May 30, 2007, 11:46:00 AM
What's up with the feministic title?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tamatron on May 30, 2007, 11:50:13 AM
^^They're trying to convince the girls to get away from guys. Guys are bad!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Stryfe on May 30, 2007, 11:53:22 AM
Enough giggling behind our backs, you two. How does the title translate?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Ayabie on May 30, 2007, 12:01:55 PM
"Good luck, girls!"
"All the best/happiness for women"


There are a few other ways to translate it, but you get the idea. Tsunku, you traitor.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tamatron on May 30, 2007, 12:10:00 PM
Hey! You men already have THE MANPOWER!!!!11
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: yokoso on May 30, 2007, 12:19:49 PM
Plus the whole "YOU GO BOY" etc chants in most songs.

YOU GO GIRLS11574288

Or something.  Are the two Chinese chicks supposed to be in this one?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: shadowstar on May 30, 2007, 12:27:03 PM
Guys are bad!
THEY HAVE COOTIES TOO  :wahaha:

*ahem* Back on topic, then.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tamatron on May 30, 2007, 12:29:45 PM
lol arian XD

Are the two Chinese chicks supposed to be in this one?

I think so. :-\
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Angelus on May 30, 2007, 12:30:00 PM
I demand man-beating in the PV.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Ayabie on May 30, 2007, 12:35:07 PM
Please let the PV have outside footage. The girls need fresh air...

Hey! You men already have THE MANPOWER!!!!11

That was about homo sapiens! Ha!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on May 30, 2007, 12:41:12 PM
planning to buy ^_^
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Stryfe on May 30, 2007, 12:42:11 PM
Please let the PV have outside footage. The girls need fresh air...

Didn't they just get plenty in Aruiteru? Granted, some more wouldn't hurt... I always envisioned an action-packed pv out on the streets of Tokyo with everyone introduced in the vein of the Opening credits of Snatch.  :lol:


I demand man-beating in the PV.

I read this in a way not suitable even for Maki or Viyuden PVs.  :jerk:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tiny on May 30, 2007, 12:57:12 PM
Yossie said at her graduation concert that Junjun and Linlin will be on the next single, so this will be it then.

I'm eagerly awaiting the preview/theme/etc for this single. :)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on May 30, 2007, 01:02:53 PM
FINALLY!! Been waiting for news of a single with Linlin and Junjun :D Hmm it's released a day after my birthday.
At this point with Momusu, I don't mind if it's going to be a ballad, up-beat and dancey, etc. as long as it's good  8)
Well imo Egao and Kanashimi were good, so now I'm just hoping they keep up with it o/ Can Momusu have THREE good singles in a row?! Is it possible?!

If this is indeed the full 8th gen's first single, I'm guessing it's upbeat, since... Well... All the previous debut singles were upbeat (except Morning Coffee) and that's the way it should be o/ UH YEAH MAKE ME DANCE AGAIN!

 :shakeit: :otomerika: :shakeit: :otomerika:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Stryfe on May 30, 2007, 01:06:23 PM
Oh yeah I completely forgot it's the Pandas' debut.

I'm betting it'll have some kind of Chinese vibe to it.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tiny on May 30, 2007, 01:07:00 PM
The SingleV DVD is also announced.

8/1 SingleV Morning Musume「女に 幸あれ」
DVD: EPBE-5255  1,575 yen

http://www.netdirect.co.jp/search/ISSSchDetail.asp?ISBN=EPBE5255
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: shadowstar on May 30, 2007, 01:07:26 PM
Can have Dominatrix Musume's then?  :wub:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Angelus on May 30, 2007, 01:24:08 PM
Ahh yeah, the pandas. I was actually hoping their first single would be called something like Kawaii! MADE IN CHINA.

But that's kinda mean, so... xD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on May 30, 2007, 04:45:19 PM
JunJun and LinLin's debut single~! Of course this is a must buy for me :D
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: genericpaperdoll on May 30, 2007, 05:54:03 PM
I can't wait for this to come out so we can hear JunJun and LinLin! I hope it'll be a good song...
(man-beating, LOL)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Brat-san on May 30, 2007, 06:31:54 PM
I can't wait to hear this! JunJun and LinLin  :heart:

But, it makes me wonder if the release of this single is why there isn't any news on the Miki scandal.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ggliff on May 30, 2007, 07:00:05 PM
Be so good to hear JunJun and LinLin. Hope they get plenty of lines to sing. Tsunku will probably want to get them in the front and do some big marketing in China. Interesting title as well :)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: 楊枝君 on May 30, 2007, 07:36:38 PM
I hope Junjun and Linlin get at least one line and aren't just there to gather dust or something  :) I'm looking forward to this single!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Nouciel on May 30, 2007, 07:44:49 PM
Ahh yeah, the pandas. I was actually hoping their first single would be called something like Kawaii! MADE IN CHINA.

But that's kinda mean, so... xD
rofl! XD
i want junjun as a lead <3 <3
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on May 30, 2007, 07:53:56 PM
yes finally!! Can't wait! ^_^

Also we finally get to see junjun and linlin properly(it's hard to judge what they're like from the new members concert rip lol)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on May 30, 2007, 09:15:36 PM
I can't wait either! as long as its got their heart in it I'm sure I'll find interest in it! Whether its about women being happy on their own or whether its about them finding happiness in their own way, it seems like a good way to start it out for the full 8th gen. Aika's work so far has been good so lets see 8th as a team!

hmm.... they do often mention boys and girls a lot don't they...lol now that I think about it...not always together... and boy more  Ithink... but still...lol.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Dj-B13 on May 30, 2007, 09:26:10 PM
Hey! You men already have THE MANPOWER!!!!11

haha so very true   :bingo:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jimmy on May 31, 2007, 02:07:54 AM
Oh boy, can't wait for this and to see how the two new girls sound. Hope it's upbeat, no way the outfits & dance routine is going to top Kanashimi Twilight though.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: hibachifinal on May 31, 2007, 06:25:35 AM
hehe, it kinda fits Miki (being still the leader),
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Kira-sama on May 31, 2007, 07:08:00 AM
I'm going to really look forward to this. :D
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: babydoll on May 31, 2007, 10:21:42 AM
I'm going to look forword in this because Junjun and Linlin are going to be in a song hopefully. :heart: :D
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tamatron on June 05, 2007, 09:11:08 AM
First press B comes with a booklet. There's also an event.

http://www.neowing.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=EPCE-5486
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jompuan on June 05, 2007, 09:55:54 AM
CDJapan links:

DVD version:
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=EPCE-5483

Booklet version:
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=EPCE-5485

Normal edition:
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=EPCE-5486
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on June 07, 2007, 12:20:49 AM
I think I'm gonna buy all ...... *damn .... I'm broke ........*
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Cookie on June 12, 2007, 03:11:54 AM
Pic for their new single.
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8346/mmqw6.jpg)

Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Nouciel on June 12, 2007, 03:13:30 AM
^ you beat me to it XD

everyone looks hot. EVERYONE, omg :heart:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: magurosan on June 12, 2007, 03:20:40 AM
Pic for their new single.
(http://img170.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-5672/loc538/17776_MMnew_122_538lo.jpg)



Poor Takahashi...  :mon trudge:
Weird but can't wait for more!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: mini*wheat on June 12, 2007, 03:26:19 AM
New group picture = LOVE!

I'm liking what I see of the outfits (especially Eri's. And her hair. She looks wonderful). Junjun and Linlin don't look as out of place as I expected them to and they both look gorgeous as well. I'm really super excited to hear this!

...The only thing I'm having a teeny weeny little problem with is Aika's hair. It's a little odd.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: yumestarlet on June 12, 2007, 03:41:56 AM
Eri looks fantastic! I like Sayu and Linlin's looks in this one too, but Eri stood out so much. Now if only they could find a better stylist for Aika. D: She looked so adorable in Kanashimi Twilight... why'd they go and change that?!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: genericpaperdoll on June 12, 2007, 03:43:21 AM
wow, everyone looks amazing!! Junjun :heart: :heart: and Itotally love Sayu's hair :heart: (Preview pleease)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jompuan on June 12, 2007, 03:45:18 AM
Pic for their new single.
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8346/mmqw6.jpg)


very nice !!! ^^
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on June 12, 2007, 03:47:51 AM
Pic for their new single.
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8346/mmqw6.jpg)

Awesome! But plz don't be a ballad, plz don't be a ballad...its summer for wota's sake >_>
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: mode107 on June 12, 2007, 03:54:14 AM
ok, Eri totally looks like Erika from Biyuden to me
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on June 12, 2007, 04:04:04 AM
I love the new pic! the hair does so much for all of them... its got an elegant slightly older lookj for most of them... beautiful all the same though... lets go MM 9!.. go~go~!...lol, can't wait for the radio sample... gotta know what kind of song this may be!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ohno on June 12, 2007, 04:24:00 AM
Wow, what happened to Eri  :w00t:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on June 12, 2007, 04:37:56 AM
1.) Aichan cut her hair !!! *damn*
2.) yeah, what happened to Eri ??
3.) What happened to Aika ??
4.) Linlin looks like Ayaka XD ~
5.) Others like normal to me ~
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: JFC on June 12, 2007, 05:03:48 AM
Pic for their new single.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8346/mmqw6.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8346/mmqw6.jpg)
Whoa...that's just...whoa. :o
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Stryfe on June 12, 2007, 05:18:43 AM
So that's where my new drapes went.

I suppose the new single is psychedelic acid rock. That, or a ballad. Please let it be the former.

Anyways, pretty epic failure, but official site pics often are... They can't even scale the pics right, just look at Sayu's jaw for example...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Koolmon93 on June 12, 2007, 05:46:48 AM
Hawt! And OMG! It doesn't look photoshopped! It looks like it was actually taken without Miki! The pandas fit in well! JunJun looks funny. Her eye.. hehe...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: StreakInTheSky on June 12, 2007, 05:55:39 AM
So that's where my new drapes went.

I suppose the new single is psychedelic acid rock. That, or a ballad. Please let it be the former.

Anyways, pretty epic failure, but official site pics often are... They can't even scale the pics right, just look at Sayu's jaw for example...

lol my thoughts exactly.

That group just looks completely new too me... it's kinda wierd...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Shiru on June 12, 2007, 06:04:49 AM
it's kinda wierd...

And that's exactly how I thought ! xDD

I suppose that it is a question of time...

mmmm ...Well, the first that I thought was "AYAKA?!!" lol


Anyway, I think Aika looks cool with this hairstyle!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Susu123 on June 12, 2007, 07:22:02 AM
They fit in better than I expected. But LinLin does look a little iffy. That pic doesent do her justice.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tamatron on June 12, 2007, 08:12:47 AM
Sayuuuuu~ :heart:

I'm still not used to Ai-chan's hair. And Eri looks weird.

These costumes remind me of those in Kanashimi.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: StreakInTheSky on June 12, 2007, 09:26:58 AM

These costumes remind me of those in Kanashimi.

Yeah, the ones I didn't like lol
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Kamesan on June 12, 2007, 09:51:21 AM
The era of the Chinese girls has started. I like the pic. I'm looking forward to the new single.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Ayabie on June 12, 2007, 11:48:13 AM
5 minute photoshop jobs aren't even worth commenting.

(http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07242/01-mobu.jpg)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Yasu on June 12, 2007, 12:07:46 PM
I love Ai's and Sayu's hair. <3 Reina finally changed, too O:

Oh, and hi Ayaka! What are you doing in Morning Musume?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on June 12, 2007, 12:32:07 PM
I really like the picture and the outfits!
Everyone looks really great, so pretty~!!! Now we need a radio rip!!!...but I'm sure it's ages away....
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on June 12, 2007, 01:58:03 PM
Oh, and hi Ayaka! What are you doing in Morning Musume?

yeah, it took me a while to notice that's not Ayaka right before I wrote "....4.) Linlin looks like Ayaka XD ~..."

Ayaka and Linlin should form a group ~

Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Koolmon93 on June 12, 2007, 04:38:30 PM
Ok... nevermind. It's a bad photoshopped pic... Does anyone know where JunJun's hand went? and it looks like Ai, Reina, and Mittsi are floating....
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: doinkies on June 12, 2007, 06:32:55 PM
All of these H!P official site pics look doinky  :P not just this one...

Hopefully the single's cover will look a lot better than this pic...I do like Sayu's hairstyle though...JunJun and LinLin look nice too...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on June 12, 2007, 06:40:55 PM
The only thing that bugs me about this picture is that it really doesn't do Linlin justice.
I've seen plenty of pictures of her to know she's a good looking girl! But I think this picture doesn't really show that as well as it should..but is she looking at the camera? O.o
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: SomethingWild on June 12, 2007, 07:34:57 PM
Koha and Tanaka own that pic imo.. I dislike Aichans new hairstyle  :( makes her look like a "young dorky hilary duff" type person..

I'm curious how the Chinese girls will do, because I haven't seen anything from them yet.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Angelus on June 12, 2007, 07:50:04 PM
Well, it does look like all the meat was removed from Linlin's cheeks...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: shurastriker on June 13, 2007, 12:08:43 AM
woaa Takahashi´s hair is shorter than i thought O_O it´s not bad but long was better XD well Reina looks especially good in this one... nyway back to the single i hope isn´t a ballad. Anyway, i´m expecting what the new girls will do.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jompuan on June 13, 2007, 01:18:23 PM
http://www.up-front-works.jp/discography/zetima/29/s_45/index.html
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Nyago on June 19, 2007, 03:06:33 PM
c/w "Please! Jiyuu no Tobira" (source is the link in the above post)

Now all we need is that darn cover...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jompuan on June 21, 2007, 09:24:09 AM
(http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9900/artistphotomy3.jpg)(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1121/artistphoto2am6.jpg)(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4089/artistphoto3nj9.jpg)
(http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/6094/artistphoto4ky5.jpg)(http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/8224/artistphoto5vt8.jpg)(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/933/artistphoto6tp7.jpg)
(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7161/artistphoto7gp5.jpg)(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9008/artistphotoqo6.jpg)(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3425/aitkz9.jpg)

Credit - pizca@JPM <3
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on June 21, 2007, 10:48:34 AM
OOOOOOOOooooo individual pictures... see with ai standing like that by herself where you can see her whole stance it feels more like she's leader... its got attitude behind it with the angle of her back and hip... at least I think...
then again my initial responses to each picture is as follows...
sexy, confident, adorable, pretty, reserved, spacy, energetic, prepared, and attitude

the fact that I can say a different thing for each of them makes me feel like it might be good... then again I'm always open to thought... so perhaps no one else thinks that. Either way thanx for hte pictures! now we wait for cover and radio samples
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on June 21, 2007, 10:57:47 AM
lol spacy??

Well I love the style and everything! I think everyone looks really great ^^
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Ren on June 21, 2007, 01:18:51 PM
Being a fan or Reina, I don't really like her face in that picture. ^^; But her outfit and hair is good IMO. I like Risa's hair and face expression, she looks wild and menacing. :heart: And even though I don't like the idea of praising Junjun XD, I say she looks really good there.

I love Reina's pose here :heart::
(http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/4125/mmnewtr9.jpg)
Small pic and had to be taken through screenshot cause if using right-click save it'll be blank instead, slick H!P Taiwan!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Koolmon93 on June 21, 2007, 04:41:31 PM
Damn photoshop! Just because Miki left early and yall already took the pictures! >< The pics are cute though!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Yuuyami on June 21, 2007, 05:05:19 PM
Small pic and had to be taken through screenshot cause if using right-click save it'll be blank instead, slick H!P Taiwan!

It's called watermarking, dear xD

I didn't think the webmasters of H!P were smart enough to do that! >_>!!!!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tiny on June 21, 2007, 05:21:20 PM
Nah, it's got nothing to do with watermarking. It's very simple HTML technique where they put the actual image in the background and use a transparent GIF called blank.gif as overlay. The url to the real image can been found in the source.

Back on topic: I noticed that the photocard comes with the first press of the SingleV DVD and not with the regular CD single. This is a first?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chibilolli on June 22, 2007, 04:23:19 PM
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9008/artistphotoqo6.jpg)
Credit - pizca@JPM <3

I wrote this in the Reina thread but I thought I'd write it here as well. Anyone think that Aika's hair makes her look like a chicken? I know I'm not alone on this because my nephew think so too but he always agrees with me.  XD

Unfortunately I only like Reina, Koharu, Jun Jun and Aika (even with the hair) in these pics. Everyone else looks bleh to me.
Plus, what is it with the dodgey outfits?????
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: bot on June 22, 2007, 04:41:26 PM
I actually think that, facially, that's a mad good photo of mitsui.
I am amazed at how takahashi manages to look like a small carnivorous dinosaur (eg. coelophysis) and really good at the same time!!!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chibilolli on June 22, 2007, 08:35:53 PM
I am amazed at how takahashi manages to look like a small carnivorous dinosaur (eg. coelophysis) and really good at the same time!!!

 :lol: Thats really funny and I have to sort of agree with you. She does look kinda dinosaur-ish!!!  :lol:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: kingthaking81 on June 27, 2007, 07:10:56 AM
according to tsunku's comment about this single, the main theme is MODE (no really)
and it's going to be an upbeat song.YAY

and the rest of his comment i leave it up to you guys who can read japanese.
http://www.tsunku.net/morning_musume.htm#mo_33 (http://www.tsunku.net/morning_musume.htm#mo_33)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Reanimation on June 27, 2007, 07:22:24 AM
Onna ni Sachi Are arranged by Egami Koutarou
c/w PLEASE! Jiyuu no Tobira arranged by Yuasa Kouichi
both written by Tsunku
http://tvstation.jp/special/artist/morning/morning.html


Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jompuan on June 27, 2007, 09:08:25 AM
Egami Kotaro arrangement history:
http://www.supalove.com/creators/kotaro_egami/kotaro_egami.html
worked with: Biyuden (Suite Room album) , Koda Kumi (Someday) etc.

thanks - ampedechoz@JPM
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: magurosan on June 29, 2007, 02:44:36 AM
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9008/artistphotoqo6.jpg)
Credit - pizca@JPM <3

I wrote this in the Reina thread but I thought I'd write it here as well. Anyone think that Aika's hair makes her look like a chicken? I know I'm not alone on this because my nephew think so too but he always agrees with me.  XD

Unfortunately I only like Reina, Koharu, Jun Jun and Aika (even with the hair) in these pics. Everyone else looks bleh to me.
Plus, what is it with the dodgey outfits?????

Aika's got attitude in this picture.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Angelus on June 29, 2007, 04:16:19 AM
They sure are keeping us in the dark with this one. ._.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jompuan on June 29, 2007, 06:43:51 AM
「女に 幸あれ」

女!女!女!女!【全員】
Yeah... 【高橋】

ウチらはママからもらった【新垣光井田中琳】
へその緒っちゃね【田中】

(HA!)【光井】

ビンビコビン【全員】
ウチらは神様からもらった【亀井高橋 久住道重純】
乙女っちゅう【亀井】

なでしこちん!【全員】

(ありがち~ん)【久住】
パネェくれぇの おしゃれが大事 エナジー【高橋】
OL鯖ギャル女子高生中小Funk kids!【全員】
ヤベェくれぇの 年頃だから【高橋】
今夜は【久住】

オールで【田中】

オケろうぜ!【道重亀井】

女の幸せだっていつかは色褪せて【新垣光井田中琳】
大きなありがたみが小さく感じていくわ【新垣】

だから【琳】
毎日懸命に流してるわ女の汗【亀井高橋久住道重純】
美しく【高橋】

光ってる【琳】

The life of women【全員】
**************************************************************
Onna ni Sachi Are

[All] Onna! Onna! Onna! Onna!
[Takahashi] Yeah..

[Niigaki, Mitsui, Tanaka, Lin Lin] Uchira wa mama kara moratta
[Tanaka] hesonoo tt cha ne

[Mitsui] (HA!)

[All] PIN PYU PIN
[Kamei, Takahashi, Kusumi, Michishige, Jun Jun] Uchira wa kamisama kara moratte
[Kamei] Otome tt CHU

[All] Nadeshiko chin!

[Kusumi] (Ariga sa~n)
[Takahashi] Penee Kuree no Oshare ga daichi ENERGY
[All] OL saba GIRL joshikousei chuushou FUNK KIDS!
[Takahashi] Yabee Kuree no toshigoro dakara
[Kusumi] Konya wa

[Tanaka] All de

[Michishige, Kamei] OK rou ze!

[Niigaki, Mitsui, Tanaka, Lin Lin] Onna no sachi se datte itsuka iroasete
[Niigaki] Ookina ari ga tami ga chiisaku kanjite ikuwa

[Lin Lin] Dakara
[Kamei, Takahashi, Kusumi, Michishige, Jun Jun] Mainichi Kenmei ni nagashiteru wa onna no ase
[Takahashi] Utsukushiku

[Lin Lin] Hikatteru

[All] The Life of Women

credit: 逢い引き@LB

 XD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: kingthaking81 on June 29, 2007, 07:00:01 AM
the lyrics have a weird structure. I hope it's only the first part of the song or something.
There's too much takahashi btw, well it was expected though
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on June 29, 2007, 07:15:37 AM
maybe too depend on Aichan .......

don't know if it's good or bad ..............
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Shiru on June 29, 2007, 07:46:37 AM
Yeah, it had a weird structure. And what's pin pyu pin? o.O


*stupid note*
[Kusumi] (Ariga sa~n)
[Takahashi] Penee Kuree no Oshare ga daichi ENERGY
[All] OL saba GIRL joshikousei chuushou FUNK KIDS!
[Takahashi] Yabee Kuree no toshigoro dakara
[Kusumi] Konya wa

Sorry, I bursted out laughing 'cause pene in Spanish means penis ..xDD Like Yossie's line in Kanashimi: yume mi teta, yume my boob
xDD


Thanks to post it!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on June 29, 2007, 07:53:44 AM
Ah shit, JunJun totally got a backseat on this one (more like the trunk).  Oh well, I hope the song and PV are good.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on June 29, 2007, 08:37:37 AM
Wow, Linlin actually got 2 lines... (....Ok I wish she got longer lines -_-)

Um what's the source for the lyrics, a radio recording? :O
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jafeijai on June 29, 2007, 01:58:42 PM
I'm thinking those weren't the FULL lyrics, since that'd be quite short for a song. They're most likely lyrics for the radio version.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Angelus on June 29, 2007, 02:18:00 PM
Oh, I should make comments like that more often if it gets something.  XD I think... Aika needs more lines! D: Oh well, it's cool Eri has some.

And I hope that "funk" in "funk kids" isn't mispronounced...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on June 29, 2007, 02:33:08 PM
Oh, I should make comments like that more often if it gets something.  XD
It doesn't really help... Just ask all the Makoto fans, for example ^^;;
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Brat-san on June 29, 2007, 04:08:30 PM
I'm thinking those weren't the FULL lyrics, since that'd be quite short for a song. They're most likely lyrics for the radio version.

I gotta agree, that does seem short for a song. o_o
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: genericpaperdoll on June 29, 2007, 04:53:15 PM
I sure hope those aren't the full lyrics. Otherwise it looks like a really short song...
And too much Takahashi not enough Linlin, Aika, and Junjun. It's like Mako all over again. Ugh.
The song/PV better be kickass or I'm going to be pissed XD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on June 29, 2007, 05:35:20 PM
^er, but generally new girls don't get many lines I mean look at Happy Summer Wedding and Mr. Moonlight.

I'd kinda like the know the source of these lyrics though..(i mean the person who wrote them's source not where they were before here)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ChiruChaCha on June 29, 2007, 05:44:47 PM
^er, but generally new girls don't get many lines I mean look at Happy Summer Wedding and Mr. Moonlight.

I'd kinda like the know the source of these lyrics though..(i mean the person who wrote them's source not where they were before here)

Yeah there are some rumours saying that they are made up, couse apparently it has already happened before with Hand Made City.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Miichan on June 29, 2007, 05:52:38 PM
^er, but generally new girls don't get many lines I mean look at Happy Summer Wedding and Mr. Moonlight.

Yeah but then theres Egao YES NUDE or Shabondama XD so i mean ... you can still hope XD .. I dont really concider Aika as new anymore XD needs less takahashi ... (if this is the real lyrics x_o)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Stryfe on June 29, 2007, 05:57:58 PM
Yes, please, less Takahashi. Give me my subpar vocal bonanza.

...

And seriously speaking, there's not enough of her. Go listen to the kids sing or something, if that's more up your alley. The only other girl I'm interested in hearing more is Linlin. Looks like she got a few... words... oh well, gotta start somewhere I suppose.

Sheesh.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on June 29, 2007, 06:07:28 PM
Are we even sure these lyrics are for real? I ask because I have seen some of these (with different lines and different distribution, with JunJun and LinlIn getting from 0 to 3 lines each) on 2ch since June 1st. As far as I know (and I have asked my japanese friends) there has been no radio preview or any preview of this song, so where does these lyrics come from? By the way, my japanese friends think they are made up by 2ch posters. So I will wait until a proper radio rip appears before talking about it.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Ayabie on June 29, 2007, 09:04:09 PM
lol @ lyrics.

The only thing that keeps it from being plausible are Takahashi's line, which are totally sung with an accent. Unless Tsunku dropped a fork this time, those lyrics are made up.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: misugi on June 30, 2007, 02:10:07 AM
Yeah, Lin Lin really stands out more than Jun Jun and Kamei always get the same line as Michishige.  Really think Kamei should stand out more, at least, more than Michishige. :banghead:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Ayabie on June 30, 2007, 02:37:09 PM
The song is being played on GAKI KAME at the moment.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tamatron on June 30, 2007, 02:37:26 PM
Yup, they just played it on Gakikame.

The lyrics = 100% fake.

Rockish song.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on June 30, 2007, 03:03:21 PM
Yep, the lyrics posted here have nothing to do with the song. Here it is, ripped from GakiKame radio show
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/3761/Onna-niSachiAre-rip-mp3.html
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jompuan on June 30, 2007, 03:06:20 PM
Onna ni Sachi Are
http://www.mediafire.com/?2cltmxjh9l3
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Linus on June 30, 2007, 03:21:10 PM
Kickass  :pimp:

After a few listents I can confirm my first words: Kickass. I was afraid I'd lose my interest in MM but the song saved it.

I like the style and the fact that Ai takahashi pwns half of it.  :)

 :otomerika:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on June 30, 2007, 03:42:12 PM
oooh it's finally here! Koharu opening with takahashi then?
oh can#t wait for lyrics with colour-codes to be up! ^_^

This is such a cool song! kyaa~ it's really cool sounding and lines sound like they're spread out ok i mean yes there are leaders but i Love it!!

ok, gotta get this! This really deserves to do well! and was that sayu just then! O.o if so she sounds better!(lol sorry I'm typing as I listen)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: mr.niigaki on June 30, 2007, 03:50:22 PM
I love this song! Thanks so much for the links!

I'm so glad they're continuing with the feel they've been having now. I was worried it was gonna be a slow one.

I was wondering what they were gonna do for distribution of lyrics with Miki gone, and I'm not exactly thrilled with that aspect though.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ©MicHi on June 30, 2007, 04:00:41 PM
waaaaaaaaaaaa!!! i was really2 nice song!!! anyway thanks for the links!! arigatou gozaimasu!!!  XD cant wait to watch the pV!!!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Seagull on June 30, 2007, 04:01:20 PM
I like the song :D and I love that the 3 latest song have been really great, but one thing pisses me off and that is Eri getting no lines. She got one line in this song, one line, that's like nothing.
Why can't she get any lines?
One more thing JunJun and LinLin sounds AMAZING when they sing togheter. Everyone sounds good, but I don't like Koharu XD and Sayu no line at all O.o I don't like her voice, but no line at all, that's not so great. The latest singles Eri and Sayu had no lines at all it feels like.
But now Im off to listen to the song over and over  :on lol:
*waits for the PV*
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Stryfe on June 30, 2007, 04:05:19 PM
The song itself is nothing special and sounds cheap as fuck. It's like some generic video game bgm. Well, at least it's not a ballad na na na na na na na na na na na~

The vocals aren't grating my ears at all, which is a nice surprise, but needs moar Linlin. She got what, one half of a solo line?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Hakai on June 30, 2007, 04:07:09 PM
Not bad. For being recorded with a cheap Casio keyboard and a GameBoy....

The girls sound ok though.  :roll:


*Supersonic electronic anyone?  :shakeit:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Ayabie on June 30, 2007, 04:07:34 PM
I give up.

The song is just too monotone, and the eurobeat isn't helping at all. Not even Miki-sama would've made a difference.

今日からベリヲタになった。
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Linus on June 30, 2007, 04:12:13 PM
今日からベリヲタになった。
You already were  :lol:

C'mon, H!P hasn't had good dance songs since Suki Sugite
and ...H was released on an album... I'm glad they bet for Onna ni sachi are as a single.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on June 30, 2007, 04:18:31 PM
I leave the forensics analysis to those of you that cannot simply enjoy something without having to dissect it in order to know why you like it or not. I like this song, and I don't need to analyze the why. I just like it.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ggliff on June 30, 2007, 04:20:47 PM
Thanks very much for the links :D

The more I listen the more I like. Glad its upbeat, and loving Ai-chan's voice. I was hoping for more JunJun and LinLin, but I suppose it was their first one.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: nachdenki on June 30, 2007, 04:29:41 PM
It's okay for a MM song, I won't call it favorite but worth a few listens until it gets boring :P
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: C60533 on June 30, 2007, 04:44:13 PM
I don't think it's that bad. But I just wish I could pick out where JunJun and LinLin sing solo....
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on June 30, 2007, 04:48:25 PM
I'm with reyfer, although I did sense the eurobeat or videogame BGM, thats no reason for me to not like it :D Those aspects alone is what made me like Genki+, which also had a similar formula.

Can't wait for the PV :)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Linus on June 30, 2007, 05:00:39 PM
I don't think it's that bad. But I just wish I could pick out where JunJun and LinLin sing solo....

03' 23'' JunJun LinLin
onna ni sachi are asahi yo nokore

Nothing new. JunJun's voice is worth to be in MM; I think LinLin's isn't.
imho Tsunku's criteria to not give Sayu a line was wise.

BTW Anti-forensic guy please acknowledge that a forum is a place to discuss and people expects to read the WHY of the opinions and not just empty sentences like "i like it, bye". To say few words you have chats. peace  :love:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on June 30, 2007, 05:03:17 PM
That's why I say I leave the forensics for those of you that NEED to do it. I don't. And that's my opinion. Peace  ;)

EDIT: And by the way, when you say "empty sentences", you mean like your post here before you edited it, the one that simply said
Kickass  :pimp:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Shug on June 30, 2007, 05:23:50 PM
That's why I say I leave the forensics for those of you that NEED to do it. I don't. And that's my opinion. Peace  ;)
Seems to me that you have an opinion on and want to analyze everything. Not fair to criticize others for doing the same?
You do come up with some good postings and some great info but lighten up. The world doesn't need to be perfect.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Brat-san on June 30, 2007, 05:25:35 PM

03' 23'' JunJun LinLin
onna ni sachi are asahi yo nokore


Thanks for pointing that out, JunJun is freaking awesome!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Princess Pudding on June 30, 2007, 05:25:50 PM
I don't think it's that bad. But I just wish I could pick out where JunJun and LinLin sing solo....

03' 23'' JunJun LinLin
onna ni sachi are asahi yo nokore

Nothing new. JunJun's voice is worth to be in MM; I think LinLin's isn't.
imho Tsunku's criteria to not give Sayu a line was wise.
I'm pretty sure the colors are the other way around! There was clips of Linlin singing earlier this month from a handshake event, and she definitely has a voice! :)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on June 30, 2007, 05:32:14 PM
^ I have to agree completely.  If you listen to Junjun's singing clip and the Linlin clips from earlier...Linlin is definately better.  Linlin is better than a lot of H!P members and Junjun's voice had more of that cute aspect to it(liek sayu's has) which is actually the line where i went 'what the hell, was that sayu?? O.o' and got really confused lol.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Stryfe on June 30, 2007, 05:34:04 PM
Yeah I wondered about that coding too, and I thought Linlin was the starter of the line.

She's the one with a voice, and Junjun's the one who tried to kill my ears with her Chinese tv performance. Which girl did all the (very good, I might add) singing in that handshake event? Linlin.

Case and point.

...

Still, just a measly half line when there's finally a potentially good new singer in the group? Lame.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on June 30, 2007, 05:36:54 PM
Anyway, now to wait for a PV.

Aren't they having a live of this song on Music Japan on July 2nd?

EDIT: Sorry, I read somewhere about a recording for a performance on Music Japan July 2nd, seems to be another show  :?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Nyago on June 30, 2007, 05:40:10 PM
I'm pretty sure the coding is correct. Linlin definitely has the higher, more cutesy voice out of the two. It also sounds just like her speaking voice... just sayin'
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Angelus on June 30, 2007, 05:52:25 PM
I like it. But it just needs more Eri... and maybe less Takahashi.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tamatron on June 30, 2007, 05:54:52 PM
今日からベリヲタになった。

Why now? With a song like Funsui? XD Not to mention that you've always been a beriwota since like forever.


The song started out cool, then it gave me the same feeling as Nanana, "Will this song ever end?"
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Kuja on June 30, 2007, 05:58:15 PM
What I personally like about H!P songs is that you can hear many different vocals (hasn't really happened lately in MM), so this song doesn't sound so good to me. I have nothing against Takahashi getting many lines, if the others lines would just stand out a bit more.
Oh well, Lin Lin and Jun Jun are great (and as I have listened the handshake event, I think the coding is wrong) and I'm still happy to hear something new. If only this song had something that would make it stay in my mind, I might like it more. Waiting to see the PV.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: cynee on June 30, 2007, 06:07:10 PM
i am definitely not hating the song upon first listen. the starting kind of reminds me of 'Sexy Boy' somehow...

with Yossie and Miki gone, the whole group really sound quite different. too bad Eri and Risa didn't get many lines this time, i wish Eri could sing more! but... i won't mind Ai getting many of the lines :heart:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: SomethingWild on June 30, 2007, 06:13:57 PM
Hmmm.. not bad.. not great either.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Koolmon93 on June 30, 2007, 06:19:37 PM
I'm definitely sure that Ai took Miki's lines in this song... I just feel it...

The song is very good. The 8th Gen songs have been very godo so far! w00t! The JunJun and LinLin kick major ass! And where can I find this color-code?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Pinkosa on June 30, 2007, 06:48:04 PM
^Agreed.
Egao YES Nude was awesome.
Kanashimi Twilight also.
And this is awesome too.

8th Gen FTW!...I like the song. But Koharu's voice don't really fit in MM.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: justafan on June 30, 2007, 06:58:48 PM
Real lyric

yuuhi ni tasogare
kodoku ni niau wa
anata to kuchibuse
mada mi ni irokomu
namida wa misenai
dare ni mo misenai
(tsuyoka) ni bakari no watashi

yurushite yaru nante
baka ne baka ne baka ne
doushite ano ko ni
korarechau no baka ne
yappa namida ne

aitsu to wa
shiawase ga kuru wa
deau tame no junbi suru jikan
ato (kokka) de matte te kudasai
onna ni sachi are
asahi ano ko de

konkai ni akogare
shanimuni kurashi wa
kurushite nukumori
anata no jisashisa
tanoshii mainichi
tokai mo nareta shi
shiawase ni tsusumareteta

nanimo kidzukazu
baka ne baka ne baka ne
ano ko to itsu kara
nakayoshi na no anata
yappa namida ne

aitsu to wa
shiawase ga kuru wa
sou ja dake rya (tsugou ga ii sugiru)
asoko made watashi ga yuku kara
onna ni sachi are
asahi ano ko de

aitsu ka wa
shiawase ga kuru wa
deau tame no junbi suru jikan
ato kokka de matte te kudasai
onna ni sachi are
asahi ano ko de

aitsu to wa
shiawase ga kuru wa
sou ja dake rya tsugou ga ii sugiru
asoko made watashi ga yuku kara
onna ni sachi are
asahi ano ko de
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Princess Pudding on June 30, 2007, 07:35:59 PM
Onna ni Sachi Are

Takahashi Niigaki Kamei Michishige 
Tanaka Kusumi Mitsui Junjun Linlin 


yuuhi ni tasogare
kodoku ni niau wa
anata to kuchibuse
mada mi ni irokomu
namida wa misenai
dare ni mo misenai
(tsuyoka) ni bakari no watashi

[Jun/Lin] yurushite yaru nante
[Kam/Mic/Tan] baka ne baka ne baka ne
[Ku/Mit] doushite ano ko ni
[Tak/Ni] korarechau no baka ne
[Jun/Lin] yappa namida ne

[Tak/Ni/Kam] aitsu to wa
[Tak/Ni/Kam] shiawase ga kuru wa
deau tame no junbi suru jikan
[Tak/Ni/Kam] ato (kokka) de matte te kudasai
[Mic/Mit/Jun/Lin] onna ni sachi are
asahi ano ko de

konkai ni akogare
shanimuni kurashi wa
kurushite nukumori
anata no yasashisa
tanoshii mainichi
tokai mo nareta shi
shiawase ni tsusumareteta

[Jun/Lin] nanimo kidzukazu
[Kam/Mic/Tan] baka ne baka ne baka ne
[Ku/Mit] ano ko to itsu kara
[Tak/Ni] nakayoshi na no anata
[Jun/Lin] yappa namida ne

[Kam/Mic/Tan/Ku] aitsu to wa
[Kam/Mic/Tan/Ku] shiawase ga kuru wa
sou ja dake rya (tsugou ga ii sugiru)
[Kam/Mic/Tan/Ku] asoko made watashi ga yuku kara
[Ni/Jun/Lin] onna ni sachi are
asahi ano ko de

aitsu ka wa
shiawase ga kuru wa
deau tame no junbi suru jikan
ato kokka de matte te kudasai
onna ni sachi are
asahi ano ko de

[Tak/Ni] aitsu to wa
[Tak/Ni] shiawase ga kuru wa
sou ja dake rya tsugou ga ii sugiru
[Kam/Mic/Tan] asoko made watashi ga yuku kara
[Jun/Lin] onna ni sachi are
[Ku/Mit] asahi ano ko de


*group parts are most likely to be wrong!!!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Miichan on June 30, 2007, 07:42:14 PM
I didnt like this song at all first now im in love XD  :heart: :heart:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Linus on June 30, 2007, 07:54:42 PM
I don't think it's that bad. But I just wish I could pick out where JunJun and LinLin sing solo....

03' 23'' JunJun LinLin
onna ni sachi are asahi yo nokore

Nothing new. JunJun's voice is worth to be in MM; I think LinLin's isn't.
imho Tsunku's criteria to not give Sayu a line was wise.
I'm pretty sure the colors are the other way around! There was clips of Linlin singing earlier this month from a handshake event, and she definitely has a voice! :)

For their previous recordings I'd say I said it right at first. 2ch also says JJ does the first line and LL the second one although some people disagrees... Maybe we gotta wait until a tv perf to know for sure  :lol:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on June 30, 2007, 08:08:27 PM
Do we already know what the competition will be on release day? Who else is releasing singles that day?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Koolmon93 on June 30, 2007, 08:12:42 PM
onna ni sachi are
asahi ano ko de

Junjun's voice has more accent to it and Linlin's voice sounds like Ayaka. Junjun says ale instead of are... hehe...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: genericpaperdoll on June 30, 2007, 08:16:28 PM
The song is pretty good. I'm so happy it's not a ballad (even though I usually like ballads), I was hoping for more of the new girls, but whatever. Hopefully I won't be bored of it by the time the single is released (though that's happened with most recent H!P releases XD)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ayubon on June 30, 2007, 08:24:51 PM
At first I thought the melody isn't original enough, but it's growing on me. Eurobeat FTW!

Quote
aitsu to wa
shiawase ga kuru wa
I think it shoud be: "Ah, itsuka wa"
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Matyeu on June 30, 2007, 08:27:47 PM
The song makes me think of a Pv a little bit like W's "Ai no imi wo oshiete" or Country musume's "Honey pie" don't you think?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on June 30, 2007, 08:29:59 PM
2ch is saying (linlin's thread) that it's Jun first and then Lin, I also think the 2nd voice sounds more like Linlin's talking voice... One of the reasons why I was in so much disbelief after the fanrecording with Linlin's singing was cuz I didn't think it sounded like her talking voice... Any chance it wasn't her?? WAhh I dunno what to think, but I guess we'll find out the truth soon enough. Just so fricking confusing ROFL
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Koolmon93 on June 30, 2007, 08:46:18 PM
Well, Junjun has that REALLY think Chinese accent when she's speaking Japanese and Linlin doesn't really have one that much. So, Iono what to think. I think we're gonna see the PV... next week.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ChiruChaCha on June 30, 2007, 08:46:57 PM

I was wondering what they were gonna do for distribution of lyrics with Miki gone, and I'm not exactly thrilled with that aspect though.


That's an easy question, Takahashi got them all xD


*Supersonic electronic anyone?  :shakeit:


 :lol:


imho Tsunku's criteria to not give Sayu a line was wise.


It would have been wise and coherent if he hadn't given the opening line to Koharu.

The song is pretty good, the Eri-JunJun-LinLin lines at the end sound really good and I've got the feeling the dance will be cool, can't say the same about the outfits though...

And btw, I think the second voice sounds more like LinLin, which means LinLin is a little disappointing and JunJun pretty impressing, but I don't know why I think it will turn the tables again in the lives.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: kingthaking81 on June 30, 2007, 09:00:03 PM
hm the eurobeat/house sound is getting a bit old now. For sexy boy it was ok, for genki + as an album opener it sounded ok, but to reuse this style as a single release is a bit too easy. I hoped for a more funky summery arrangement, considering the fashionable outfits. Well , the vocals are at least good ! And a good PV can even make a difference.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on June 30, 2007, 09:12:35 PM
So if the voices are that way round, what happen with Linlin's voice O.o
Maybe Tsunku didn't want her to outshine the other MM members??? O.o

O.o o.O >.> <.< It's a conspiracy i tell you!!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ©MicHi on June 30, 2007, 09:24:53 PM
hurm hurm...why gaki-san solo part is very short, she's a sub leader now, and her voice also are really2 nice...when risa and ai sing together it was very nice!!!...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: BakHamNoi on June 30, 2007, 09:27:24 PM
ahh~ it's so good to be an Ai-chan fan  :lol:

and  more Takahashi, more goodness.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ChiruChaCha on June 30, 2007, 09:35:46 PM

hurm hurm...why gaki-san solo part is very short, she's a sub leader now


Actually, in MM, the more close you are to be a leader, the lesser lines you get in songs, with the only exeption of Ai-chan in this single.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tiny on June 30, 2007, 09:49:26 PM
Do we already know what the competition will be on release day? Who else is releasing singles that day?

Yep,

Otsuka Ai (+DVD/dorama), SEAMO(+DVD), RIP SLYME, Yoshii Kazuya, Kururi (+DVD/movie), Kirito (+DVD), OLIVIA(+DVD), Kamiki Aya, Ulfuls (CM), Tamura Yukari/Tomatsu Haruka/Nazuka Kaori (anime), COLOR(+DVD), 175R(+DVD/movie), BOOM BOOM SATELLITES, Oda Yuuji, Sambomaster, Baba Toshihide, Nakanomori BAND (+DVD), Yanawaraba (dorama), JYONGRI, Stardust Revue, sifow, Katou Kazuki (+DVD/3), SHOWTA., Pistol Valve, ONE OK ROCK, BEGIN, ICHIKO (anime), All Japan Goith, 5050(+DVD), THMLUES, Matsudaira Ken(+DVD)

any typos are mine
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: nachdenki on June 30, 2007, 09:56:24 PM
Do we already know what the competition will be on release day? Who else is releasing singles that day?

Yep,

Otsuka Ai (+DVD/dorama), SEAMO(+DVD), RIP SLYME, Yoshii Kazuya, Kururi (+DVD/movie), Kirito (+DVD), OLIVIA(+DVD), Kamiki Aya, Ulfuls (CM), Tamura Yukari/Tomatsu Haruka/Nazuka Kaori (anime), COLOR(+DVD), 175R(+DVD/movie), BOOM BOOM SATELLITES, Oda Yuuji, Sambomaster, Baba Toshihide, Nakanomori BAND (+DVD), Yanawaraba (dorama), JYONGRI, Stardust Revue, sifow, Katou Kazuki (+DVD/3), SHOWTA., Pistol Valve, ONE OK ROCK, BEGIN, ICHIKO (anime), All Japan Goith, 5050(+DVD), THMLUES, Matsudaira Ken(+DVD)

any typos are mine
wow, I don't know most of them but looks like MM can become #2 or #3 for some days at least XD
correct me if I'm wrong :3
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ChiruChaCha on June 30, 2007, 10:08:35 PM

wow, I don't know most of them but looks like MM can become #2 or #3 for some days at least XD
correct me if I'm wrong :3


I'm not very much into the jpop world but I think the competition isn't very very tough however I'd say the major threats are Otsuka Ai, SEAMO and OLIVIA(mostly Otsuka).

Correct me if I'm wrong too, please.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on June 30, 2007, 10:16:53 PM
After 2 singles of almost equal lyric distribution we slide back to the more offset lyric distribution... not really a thing good or bad... as its mostly a choice for the music... the beat makes it hard for me to notice the difference between some of the closer voices but it seems like an interesting song. I'm glad this one doesn't make my head spin as much as genki+ did as a song, but I wish to see a PV before I start passing total judgement on the song. That and I want to attempt lyric understanding as well. I feel since I lack in the musical expertise I can get a better feeling for it by getting the words.

Otsuka and OLIVIA releasing stuff on the same day... I hope the wotas are ready to battle...lol
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on June 30, 2007, 10:41:48 PM
Otsuka Ai (+DVD/dorama), SEAMO(+DVD), RIP SLYME, Yoshii Kazuya, Kururi (+DVD/movie), Kirito (+DVD), OLIVIA(+DVD), Kamiki Aya, Ulfuls (CM), Tamura Yukari/Tomatsu Haruka/Nazuka Kaori (anime), COLOR(+DVD), 175R(+DVD/movie), BOOM BOOM SATELLITES, Oda Yuuji, Sambomaster, Baba Toshihide, Nakanomori BAND (+DVD), Yanawaraba (dorama), JYONGRI, Stardust Revue, sifow, Katou Kazuki (+DVD/3), SHOWTA., Pistol Valve, ONE OK ROCK, BEGIN, ICHIKO (anime), All Japan Goith, 5050(+DVD), THMLUES, Matsudaira Ken(+DVD)

any typos are mine
Wow. Otsuka Ai, RIP SLYME, OLIVIA and Kamiki Aya......well, seems that at least they will make another Top 5 with this song (with Otsuka and OLIVIA releasing the same day it's hard to make #1 or #2). And Nakanomori Band. Cool.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: babydoll on June 30, 2007, 10:47:40 PM
Onna ni Sachi Are

Takahashi Niigaki Kamei Michishige 
Tanaka Kusumi Mitsui Junjun Linlin 


yuuhi ni tasogare
kodoku ni niau wa
anata to kuchibuse
mada mi ni irokomu
namida wa misenai
dare ni mo misenai
(tsuyoka) ni bakari no watashi

[Jun/Lin] yurushite yaru nante
[Kam/Mic/Tan] baka ne baka ne baka ne
[Ku/Mit] doushite ano ko ni
[Tak/Ni] korarechau no baka ne
[Jun/Lin] yappa namida ne

[Tak/Ni/Kam] aitsu to wa
[Tak/Ni/Kam] shiawase ga kuru wa
deau tame no junbi suru jikan
[Tak/Ni/Kam] ato (kokka) de matte te kudasai
[Mic/Mit/Jun/Lin] onna ni sachi are
asahi ano ko de

konkai ni akogare
shanimuni kurashi ta
kurushite nukumori
anata no yasashisa
tanoshii mainichi
tokai mo nareta shi
shiawase ni tsusumareteta

[Jun/Lin] nanimo kidzukazu
[Kam/Mic/Tan] baka ne baka ne baka ne
[Ku/Mit] ano ko to itsu kara
[Tak/Ni] nakayoshi na no anata
[Jun/Lin] yappa namida ne

[Kam/Mic/Tan/Ku] aitsu to wa
[Kam/Mic/Tan/Ku] shiawase ga kuru wa
sou ja dake rya (tsugou hei sugiru)
[Kam/Mic/Tan/Ku] asoko made watashi ga yuku kara
[Ni/Jun/Lin] onna ni sachi are
asahi ano ko de

aitsu ka wa
shiawase ga kuru wa
deau tame no junbi suru jikan
ato kokka de matte te kudasai
onna ni sachi are
asahi ano ko de

[Tak/Ni] aitsu to wa
[Tak/Ni] shiawase ga kuru wa
sou ja dake rya tsugou hei sugiru
[Kam/Mic/Tan] asoko made watashi ga yuku kara
[Jun/Lin] onna ni sachi are
[Ku/Mit] asahi ano ko de


*group parts are most likely to be wrong!!!


Fixed some things :D. It is still good!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Koolmon93 on June 30, 2007, 11:14:36 PM
I know Otsuka will get #1. Don't know who the others are, but I'm pretty sure they'll get Top 5 like reyfer said.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Nouciel on July 01, 2007, 01:04:43 AM
Ohh, GREAT SONG! Good job MM! All singles since Aika have rocked, and I'm glad it didn't stop with Miki's departure :lol: And all that talk about Airin getting all Miki's lines o_O.. all that matters (to me) is to listen a lovely voice and I love what I'm listening <3 Junjun+Linlin combo is amazing too, they sound better than Miki+Aya together XD *runs*
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: drobin on July 01, 2007, 02:08:09 AM
good song i liked the style but kinda miss the old fashioned songs still good anyway  :w00t:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chibilolli on July 01, 2007, 03:55:11 AM
Hmmm - It's an ok song. They all sound so similar now though. I didn't think I'd miss Miki's voice so much.  :cry:

good song i liked the style but kinda miss the old fashioned songs still good anyway  :w00t:

I miss them to. I want some cheese  :lol:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Cookie on July 01, 2007, 04:04:01 AM
This song is pretty nice. I can't wait to see the live perf. Junjun  :heart: Linlin  :heart:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: mini*wheat on July 01, 2007, 04:06:29 AM
I really, really enjoy it. It's definitely the catchy upbeat song I was looking for from the new Momusu. I'm sure though, that since we've had some more upbeat songs lately... the next will be a ballad. Or maybe some "cheese."  :lol: JunJun and LinLin are better than expected, too. Huzzah!

(But would it kill Tsunk to give Sayu a little half line? I mean, she's improved a little and her cute nasal would've added to the song.)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on July 01, 2007, 04:46:15 AM
agree, really nice XD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: dokidokisuru on July 01, 2007, 09:14:20 AM
I've translated the lyrics.  I'm far from fluent, so there may big some mistakes (infact, I'm sure there are, lol), so if you see any, please tell me.  =D

Quote
The setting sun at twilight becomes lonely
I can still hear the way you spoke
I won't show you my tears, I won't show them to anyone
I'm pretending to be strong

I allowed myself to act so stupid, stupid, stupid
Why did you take your stupid tears to another girl? (I really had trouble with this line, so it might be waaay off from what the lyrics actually are =x)

Ah, someday happiness will come
I'm preparing for a time when we'll meet by chance
Ah, please wait for me somewhere
Good luck to women, the morning sun will rise

Longing for the city, desperate to live
Accidentally warmed by your kindness
I'm getting used to the city and having fun everyday
I'm wrapped in happiness

I didn't notice the foolishness, foolishness, foolishness
After you gave your tears to that other girl (I had trouble with this line, too)

Ah, someday happiness will come
If it doesn't, it's unfair
Ah, until then I'll keep going
Good luck to women, the morning sun will rise

Ah, someday happiness will come
I'm preparing for a time when we'll meet by chance
Ah, please wait for me somewhere
Good luck to women, the morning sun will rise

Ah, someday happiness will come
If it doesn't, it's unfair
Ah, until then I'll keep going
Good luck to women, the morning sun will rise

If you repost/use these, please credit me.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: misugi on July 01, 2007, 10:29:45 AM
Thanks for the lyrics and translation.  Waiting for single cover next. 8)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on July 01, 2007, 11:11:18 AM
Dokidoki I have a question (though how appropriate it is is up for grabs)

What are you hearing on the second chorus line...
the one after "shiawase ga kuru wa"
I've been trying to compare notes and come up with my own thing for it but I can't figure out what that line says...

I been adjusting the roumaji and making japanese things to try to figure it out but I'm hitting a wall with that line

Otherwise I've almost got my interpretative translations... the song is interesting it seems


Edit: Got it I think... gomen... just the rya sound threw me off... I'm almost done comparing notes and mentioning what i got different
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Twisted Blue on July 01, 2007, 11:20:22 AM
 Shameless playing around with 80s synthesizersound = One hell of a catchy dance song!!! (woooh, where went the :MKgroovin: smiley?)
:lol: PS:  I can't distinguish the chinese girls from the rest
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: dokidokisuru on July 01, 2007, 11:23:12 AM
Dokidoki I have a question (though how appropriate it is is up for grabs)

What are you hearing on the second chorus line...
the one after "shiawase ga kuru wa"
I've been trying to compare notes and come up with my own thing for it but I can't figure out what that line says...

I been adjusting the roumaji and making japanese things to try to figure it out but I'm hitting a wall with that line

Otherwise I've almost got my interpretative translations... the song is interesting it seems

Which chorus?  For the first one it's "出会うための準備する期間 (deau tame no junbi suru kikan)" and for the second one "そうじゃなけりゃ不公平すぎる (sou ja nakerya fukouhei sugiru)."  I was going by the kanji posted on JPM (which I believe was copied from 2ch), so I don't know how accurate it is (it sounds right to me, though).
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on July 01, 2007, 11:45:48 AM
AHh ahh gomen I edited cause i picked up on the sound! I kept hearing that fukouhei thing off... gomen... thank you... there's a kanji list somewhere.. .T_T aiya I've been doing it by ear and trying to make sure the roumaji thing from here didnt' make mistakes...lol

but I do my translations by line so I'm probably worse than you.
I don't know where JPM is and I don't know japanese well enough to get anywhere in 2ch... but I guess I can share what I got.

I interpret the song differently I guess... so correct me if anything! (as I tend to start melding my translations to try to match the song wording and that usually makes the lyrics faulty... in addition to my bad translation)

Quote
As the evening sun sets
matching the isolation
You and the way you talk
Once again my vision blurs
I won't show my tears
I won't show them to anyone.
A strong facade of me

Allowing myself to act like that
Stupid stupid stupid
How? to that child
did I get completed devoted? stupid
Of course its tears

Ahh someday
the happiness will come
I'll prepare for the encounter, its the time
ah wherever, please wait
For the fortune of women
The morning sun rises.

that time yearning
desperately I lived
unexpect warm
your kindness
everyday fun
I've gotten use to the city as well
shrouded in happiness

Not worrying about anything
Stupid stupid stupid
With that child how long
have I been that close to you
Of course its tears

Ahh someday
the happiness will come
Well if its only like that, its so unfair
Until that point I'll go so,
For the fortune of women
The morning sun rises.

Lesson lesson: translating by ear and estimated roumaji is hard

EDIT AGAIN: I'm revamping it again after finding jpm...boy I think I've called myself baka more times than this song
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: raiknii on July 01, 2007, 11:51:47 AM
Otsuka Ai's last single was under the name LOVE (a rabbit O_o) and sold only 4,790 at #22. Her last "real" single sold 55,362 the first week at #3. (Her single sales have been falling for four singles, since Planetarium.)

OLIVIA's highest selling single sold 20,162 the first week at #8. Her highest ever ranking was #7.

Kanashimi Twilight sold 53,551 the first week. Otsuka Ai sells much more than MoMusu, but more than half her sales come after the first week, so I suppose #1 is possible if Otsuka's song is unpopular and most of Miki/Yossi's fans didn't leave/more people buy because of JJ and LL.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ©MicHi on July 01, 2007, 01:52:04 PM
aaaa...when will the PV preview come out... cant wait to see them in action ahaha...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Kya on July 01, 2007, 05:16:05 PM
This is such a good song <3 I don't like her much, but since Mitsui came, there have been so many great songs ^_^

Where is the Eri love though? Why does she never get many lines? D: It's so annoying how weaker singers get more lines *doesnotmentionKoharu* and she gets stuck with one measly line. She's a decent singer and it's so frusterating that she never gets many lines. And I'm beginning to seriously dislike Tettekete because she gets so many lines, even though I know its not her 'fault' she's a strong singer. I wish line distribution was fairer... -_-;

Is there a clubbing scene in Japan? ^^; Random question I know, but if jpop was mainstream where I live, I can really see it being played in clubs - and MoMusu need as many new fans as possible.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: shurastriker on July 01, 2007, 06:36:01 PM
Kamei needs more lines!!! and tsunku needs to find new girls with strong and very good voices to replace Miki coz right now without Yossie and Miki, Takahashi is the only one with the strong voice and pretty sure she will leave next... she or koharu ^^U

BTW i don´t care if the single ranks #1 but MM is almost a cult group or something like that (for me) so it seems pretty dificult right now.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Angelus on July 01, 2007, 06:37:31 PM
Well, I think it does suck that some people get more lines than others, but you shouldn't hate them cause of it... I mean, it's not them that chooses what lines they get and all.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on July 01, 2007, 08:48:17 PM
Hey, Tsunku !!!!!!  Let others get more lines !!!!!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Saburo on July 01, 2007, 09:35:32 PM
Nice upbeat feel.  Need more time with the melody, however.

I'm also thankful for better rips of radio programs.  The ones I used to DL back in the late nineties and early aughts were horrible "Real" media...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: StreakInTheSky on July 02, 2007, 02:01:10 AM
I'm getting a little tired of songs arranged like this, but the song seems alright.

I want Mechs in the PV damnit!!!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Dj-B13 on July 02, 2007, 07:50:40 AM
I am a fan of upbeat songs so t his is good for my ears to listen too  :wub:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: miki on July 02, 2007, 08:15:34 AM
reminds me of Dream songs in HP style  :P
xD
i love it

cover ?
 (http://img145.imagevenue.com/loc879/th_69209_hpimg3580_122_879lo.jpg) (http://img145.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=69209_hpimg3580_122_879lo.jpg)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on July 02, 2007, 11:23:38 AM
That looks like it... it says firstpress A and B... and what i would assume to be the regular and then the big one says single V... must say it doesn't look that bad... the regular one looks a little funny with the way they are splattered about but overall nice.

It looks old yet new...thats my thoughts
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: kingthaking81 on July 02, 2007, 11:43:40 AM
stylish covers, but the background colors dont really match with the clothing.Furthermore, the graphical 'design'  has a cheap 1-minute photoshop look.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Megu_Megumi on July 02, 2007, 12:52:32 PM
My god, the song is amazing, but there is too much Ai  :(
I really wanna see the PV, I have no idea of what it would be ^^"
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Kia on July 02, 2007, 01:02:55 PM
I really love the song but... ERI NEEDS MORE LINES!!
Those covers are okay. Hopefully they'll get a great PV, too!!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: cynee on July 02, 2007, 01:03:42 PM
personally, i think there's no point blaming Ai for having too many lines. it's not her fault that she sings this well  XD . it's not her fault that the others do not sing as well as her  :P . she doesn't decide for herself that she can get so many lines. if anyone wants to find fault, then just blame it on tsunku for ignoring the other capable singers like Eri, Risa and Reina. Koharu seems like she's really pushed recently, although i don't get why exactly, to me she's a poorer singer than the rest. it's just luck i guess. i hope Mitsui gets better and better, she can be better than Koharu IMO. i like Junjun's voice... can't wait to see how the new members fare in live perfs!

the covers are not bad! yes, cheap production... but the girls are stylish looking nonetheless  :love:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: LovelyMermaid on July 02, 2007, 03:19:43 PM
god WHY SO MANY PRINT DRESSES IN ONE PLACE? x_x too~ much~

but, they're hot otherwise :3
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Pinkosa on July 02, 2007, 03:59:28 PM
personally, i think there's no point blaming Ai for having too many lines. it's not her fault that she sings this well  XD . it's not her fault that the others do not sing as well as her  :P . she doesn't decide for herself that she can get so many lines. if anyone wants to find fault, then just blame it on tsunku for ignoring the other capable singers like Eri, Risa and Reina. Koharu seems like she's really pushed recently, although i don't get why exactly, to me she's a poorer singer than the rest. it's just luck i guess. i hope Mitsui gets better and better, she can be better than Koharu IMO. i like Junjun's voice... can't wait to see how the new members fare in live perfs!

the covers are not bad! yes, cheap production... but the girls are stylish looking nonetheless  :love:

Is not because that XD Is because some people were thinking if Ai was going to get less lines because she's the leader~ Also no one is blaming her XD

Those covers are simple but nice~ Also those dresses are killing me @@ so many patterns...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Koolmon93 on July 02, 2007, 04:38:49 PM
Can someone say photoshop Miki out in the LE B single cover? I mean look! Eri is all by herself when everyone else is grouped! XD But I think they actually took a picture without Miki for the LE A pic, or they removed her... Aichan is really looking leader-ish being in the middle and all.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: StreakInTheSky on July 02, 2007, 05:01:52 PM
Limited A cover looks really nice.

I really like the font they used for the song name. Anyone know what it is?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Angelus on July 02, 2007, 06:45:35 PM
Aika is a cover front girl!  :w00t:
Can someone say photoshop Miki out in the LE B single cover? I mean look! Eri is all by herself when everyone else is grouped! XD
Ahh, I didn't notice that, but I guess it makes sense. I was under the impression the girls were grouped by three and Eri was with Sayu and Linlin. Oh well~
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 02, 2007, 06:55:17 PM
Aika is a cover front girl!  :w00t:
Can someone say photoshop Miki out in the LE B single cover? I mean look! Eri is all by herself when everyone else is grouped! XD
Ahh, I didn't notice that, but I guess it makes sense. I was under the impression the girls were grouped by three and Eri was with Sayu and Linlin. Oh well~
Don't you just love conspiracy theories? The pic is not photoshopped, just that they picked one where Eri was a little separated from the others. They shot the cover again once Miki was out, that is if Miki was ever on the cover to begin with. I read somewhere that the shooting for the CD jacket was two or three days after Miki's resignation.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: BakHamNoi on July 02, 2007, 07:30:07 PM
Takahashi just owns them all. Blame the others to be too weak against her power

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Nouciel on July 02, 2007, 08:20:57 PM
I love Limited A cover. Takahashi's pose is :w00t: and Tanaka's hand gesture is :heart:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tiny on July 02, 2007, 08:25:02 PM
SingleV track list:

1.女に 幸あれ
2.女に 幸あれ(Close-up Ver.)
3.メイキング映像 [Making of]

source: http://www.up-front-works.jp/discography/zetima/29/v_83/
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Angelus on July 02, 2007, 08:27:11 PM
I hope there's a dance shot in the DVD. Unless... there's no dance in the PV, which would be weird... or the dance sucks... I'll just wait until the PV to hope for anything. XD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on July 02, 2007, 09:26:51 PM
I'm under the belief of ear that Ai only has double her normal lines because she had to take up all of miki's planned lines. I don't think thats any fault of anyone in the group... or even miki or tsunku, its just how things turned out with how they had things planned and how they needed to rearrange it. Listening to it, its hard to make the distinctions between when Ai or not because it seems like lines are encased in Ai (with what could be Reina/koharu/risa imbetween)... But I've never been good at voice distinction in songs at first.

I now wonder if they'll find ways to put in multiple versions like they did with KT or if we'll only see the original and the close up... the wonder.... I love having so many different versions of KT to watch
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Megu_Megumi on July 02, 2007, 09:28:43 PM
I don't blame her, I know that's not her fault, but I think that girls like reina (or linlin *o* just remember her singing thanks *___*) can sing as well as her ^^" But it's ok, she sings really well and she's the leader now, the new miki  :P
And yeah, Koharu is "in the front", but she's a poorer singer, I think it's because of her solo career  :roll:
I just hope that the other will get more lines in the future  :)

Covers look cool, even if I dislike the outfits :S
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Parhelion69 on July 02, 2007, 10:11:08 PM
MM's Onna ni Sachi Are fan recording (extracted only momosu's performance) in Music Japan. It sounds pretty good actually, albeit too short, 2 mins of performance, cause they did junjun and linlin's introductions.

http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/4031/MJ-onnanisachiare--07-02-07-mp3.html


Oh, and did I say that I love this single?? :w00t:

Takitty just rocks.... too hard....  :wub:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: BakHamNoi on July 02, 2007, 10:39:14 PM
My favorite part is definitly the solo part of Ai-chan (3:05) and the baka ne baka ne part is funny

First time a leader has a lot of lines  :lol:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: BigDnm01 on July 02, 2007, 11:05:40 PM
i just heard the radio rip and it sounded great.  can't wait for the single to come out with the PV.  can't wait for the girls in action.  :drool:  :lol:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Brat-san on July 03, 2007, 11:45:40 AM
Hmm, did anyone else think they were going to fit Chinese words in there somehow?  XD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: yokoso on July 03, 2007, 04:33:03 PM
Until I saw the color encoded lyrics, it was totally difficult for me to figure out who was singing what o.o;;;;

I really do like the song though.  Lately I've been loving the girls' singles.. which is kinda rare for me!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ~Dan~ on July 04, 2007, 02:59:41 AM
This is quite good.  Someone's speeded it up.

Morning Musume - Onna ni Sachi Are (hi-speed version)
http://sharebee.com/f089c45b
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Rina the Robot on July 04, 2007, 03:44:47 AM
I like the hi-speed version better than the original  :lol:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Genesis on July 04, 2007, 04:02:35 AM
the hi-speed version sounds like 8-bit megaman BGM XD

it's ok, but a bit too hectic to the already techno style of the original

I'm loving this single, can't wait to watch the PV
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: miki on July 04, 2007, 05:19:22 AM
clearer ..

(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6384/th95495coveronna1122753dq4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Reanimation on July 04, 2007, 05:40:28 AM
I like the hi-speed version better than the original  :lol:
thats nuts.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: mr.niigaki on July 04, 2007, 01:37:08 PM
The high speed version wasn't too bad, but it was a little too fast for the song to handle really.
If I could make my own it'd be coolness.  XD

I just don't know why H!P songs always have to be upbeat, yet too slow for how awesome the song is. It was that way with Berryz Munasawagi Scarlet too, makes me sad a bit.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ayubon on July 04, 2007, 06:53:24 PM
Lame covers are lame.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chibilolli on July 04, 2007, 09:52:24 PM
Lame covers are lame.

I feel the same way. They are so...crap.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Sukoshi on July 04, 2007, 10:21:01 PM
The covers aren't bad except that they are standard and that I really hate the dresses XD  Other than that, the girls look great XD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Genesis on July 05, 2007, 08:36:40 AM
the dresses are definitely vivid and pretty, but my eyes start crying painful tears of blood staring at them for too long (x_x)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: bot on July 05, 2007, 03:24:17 PM
I.... like it!
Takahashi is the mad r0xx0rs!
with her fukouhei sugiru line, you don't feel like she's a girl sullking over lost love, but that's she's singing for the very fate of womankind!!! bwhahahhaha
Kamei's line sounded great and went splendidly with Takahashi's.
Koharu puts an interesting bite into her asahiyo nobore line.

I think the arrangement kind of took the easy way out, though i still quite like it. (all i need is synth  :roll:)

this and kanashimi twilight are like two different experiences of the same thing.
they're rather similar... the loneliness of dusk, the sting of betrayal, the wistful longing, the aftermath of passion etc etc
of course with onna ni sachi are coming after, it's like a new sun is rising. (which is kinda ironic what with this being the pandas' first... but it works really well as a momusu omen)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 06, 2007, 12:50:36 AM
Otsuka Ai sells much more than MoMusu, but more than half her sales come after the first week, so I suppose #1 is possible if Otsuka's song is unpopular and most of Miki/Yossi's fans didn't leave/more people buy because of JJ and LL.
But both Otsuka Ai and RIP SLYME will have the advantage of a big publicity push this weekend, since they will both be part of the Tokyo part of the Live Earth concerts this Saturday.
The Tokyo concert will have Otsuka Ai, Rip Slyme, Kumi Koda, Ayaka, Rize, Ai, Linkin Park, Rihanna, Cocco, Genki Rockets, Yellow Magic Orchestra, Abingdon Boys School, UA, Bonnie Pink and Michael Nyman.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: StreakInTheSky on July 06, 2007, 12:59:58 AM
This is quite good.  Someone's speeded it up.

Morning Musume - Onna ni Sachi Are (hi-speed version)
http://sharebee.com/f089c45b


This version would make an awesome bemani/DDR song :P
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 06, 2007, 01:07:26 AM
Single is out in 19 days.

PV nao plz
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jompuan on July 06, 2007, 11:49:31 AM
Quote from: ampedechoz@JPM
PV?
(http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/3571/dwxu5.jpg)
the peace outfit look-a-likes?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tamatron on July 06, 2007, 03:06:32 PM
PV

http://www.dohhhup.com/movie/sLLJUZfU7Rp9LDGyG3vauStwXUSznzna/view.php


Eri and Junjun are so hawt!

The baka baka parts crack me up. :lol:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jompuan on July 06, 2007, 03:17:54 PM
thank you, tama-chan <3
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on July 06, 2007, 03:22:24 PM
Asking for someone to up it cuz dohhhup's really slow for me (not just now, but in general) :)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: century on July 06, 2007, 03:23:10 PM
DohhUp isn't working for me, probably because of the amount of traffic.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jompuan on July 06, 2007, 03:24:14 PM
me,too T^T
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Brat-san on July 06, 2007, 03:26:02 PM
I got in, will try to rip it
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Anton_91 on July 06, 2007, 03:26:47 PM
Yeah, I had to wait like 5 minutes but then It came. :)
It's very... yellow... sorta dragshow. XD
I love the song but I feel unsure about this single. Possibly beating Ambitious! with lowest selling amount. :/
Don't want that to happen but we dont have Yossie or Miki.
So I think this will either be a big seller or a total failure.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Brat-san on July 06, 2007, 03:31:09 PM
I must say I'm loving the center choice =P

Also, the first lyrics guess was correct

JunJun is the one who sings "onna ni sachi are"
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: linlin on July 06, 2007, 03:40:36 PM
 XD @ Reina's baka baka at the start
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 06, 2007, 03:52:51 PM
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/reyjfb/new%20rey/th_toro1796.jpg) (http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/reyjfb/new%20rey/toro1796.jpg)(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/reyjfb/new%20rey/th_toro1794.jpg) (http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/reyjfb/new%20rey/toro1794.jpg)(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/reyjfb/new%20rey/th_toro1795.jpg) (http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/reyjfb/new%20rey/toro1795.jpg)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Stryfe on July 06, 2007, 04:05:40 PM
Quite pleased by the PV despite the recycled The Peace outfits. xD

Aichan pwnage throughout... lookin' smokin' and mmm at the very end. Weird that they put Klutz II as the dance lead though. The dance is somewhat amusing again... but that's what you get with H!P.

I'm tolerating the song more at least with this PV. It's still nothing special though.

You can grab the flv (flash video) file from here (http://dakodako.net/jphip/morning musume - onna ni sachi are.flv) if you like.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: bot on July 06, 2007, 04:14:04 PM
oh thank you Stryfe!
i couldn't get in and started watching genki+ instead... that was pretty good!
EDITxxx: dohhhup is behaving now :D

koharu is looking good... and really okada yui!
niigaki looks different but good different... especially in the shot with mitsui.
linlin looks good as i remembered
i sometimes mix her up with eri in the dance shots
speaking of whom, i love her line. it should go into the best lines thread.
she also has my vote for most heartbreaking 'baka'
junjun looks better than i remembered. bwhahaha
reina is totally hamming up the baka parts

they're barefoot!
the 'simple simon' part with koharu is so cute and cool in an H!P way
with this choreo i'm quite glad fujimoto's not here.... can just see her mangling the circa 1:49 dance move and making it look really geriatric
people like to complain about how  koharu's singing hasn't really improved and i have to agree. however, it's plain as day that her dancing is leaps and bounds better. she doesn't look half as frazzled as she did when she started out and she has tons of energy. in fact i think tsunku took in 62% aika to balance out koharu (simple calculation suggests that koharu is therefore 138%)
1:13 Please admire Takahashi's facility of movement.

i don't like the cutting at the ending.
junjun looking possessed --> dance shot --> jarring Takahashi shot ala Risako in very beauty

takahashi's delayed 'baka' .... i can see egos withering!!!
she even has a personal secretary sayu (stolen from eric kamezou???)
and there is the return of the takahashi profile into dark expanse shot from irojire.
in conclusion, glory glory takahashi!!!!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: mode107 on July 06, 2007, 04:24:47 PM
Just saw it, it was nice, and made made me laugh too. Manly the parts when they mouthed Baka.Reina and Eri's "baka" made me laugh so hard. and this song reminds me of dance club songs, american, european stuff, kinda like darude, and etc. Jun Jun and Lin look great
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: BakHamNoi on July 06, 2007, 04:28:07 PM
The end is the best  :lol:

i like it and i like the two chinese girls.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Ayabie on July 06, 2007, 04:31:55 PM
It's like a Brazilian parade held in a cabaret club. :lol: Pretty cool atmosphere with the ceiling mirrors and all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itThMywO-jE

The song still won't grow on me, though.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Matyeu on July 06, 2007, 04:32:50 PM
The pv really isn't how I imagined it would be, but I kinda like it too. Always in the same trend as Egao Y Nude and KT. The dance is really energic and I really like it. I think it could have been a little less cheap, but since all of their last pvs have been like that, we should get used to it.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: century on July 06, 2007, 04:46:13 PM
Dance moves are amazing.
Outfits are cool.
The Chinese girls look amazing.
Eri looks amazing.
Reina looks amazing.
Koharu looks amazing.
Sayumi was a bit of a let down in this video, compared to other videos.
Aika did well in this I think.
NEEDS MOAR RISA.
I HATE AI'S HAIR. Ai is great, but I just got this overwhelming sense that shes trying to act all regal and old.

I dont like those weird out of sync silent Baka's though.

Overall, I think this is a really good single.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ggliff on July 06, 2007, 04:52:58 PM
Very nice PV. Costumes look amazing, nice to see LinLin and junJun who look great, as do the others, especially Ai-chan and Reina. And lol at the baka baka :D The more times I listen to this song the better I like it.

DL avi rip HERE (http://www.twitter.com/?d=2WMU5UZA)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: JFC on July 06, 2007, 04:58:22 PM
^ GJ dude. :thumbsup
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: len.chan on July 06, 2007, 05:00:14 PM
Dance moves are amazing.
Outfits are cool.
The Chinese girls look amazing.
Eri looks amazing.
Reina looks amazing.
Koharu looks amazing.
Sayumi was a bit of a let down in this video, compared to other videos.
Aika did well in this I think.
NEEDS MOAR RISA.
I HATE AI'S HAIR. Ai is great, but I just got this overwhelming sense that shes trying to act all regal and old.

I dont like those weird out of sync silent Baka's though.

Overall, I think this is a really good single.

just quoted 'cause I agree with everything XD
Goddess Eri.. she looks stunning
I guess I'm liking the song and the pv it's not so bad.. I miss something, though. Oh yeah, Yossi XD Guess I still have to get used to it..

thanks for the rip ggliff
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: mr.niigaki on July 06, 2007, 05:13:44 PM
Thanks so much ggliff!!

I really can't wait to watch it now. XD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: wegaro on July 06, 2007, 05:19:57 PM
Please!!! Can someone up the PV in othe host? like medifire or something like that!!! I can't down it!!! please!!!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: cynee on July 06, 2007, 05:31:07 PM
the yellow-ness is blinding. but at least all the girls look good, especially Eri!! there's too much feathers! and what's up with those yellow strips on their wrists? the yellow-ness is making the girls look like chicken when they dance  :shocked:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Brat-san on July 06, 2007, 05:41:02 PM
Please!!! Can someone up the PV in othe host? like medifire or something like that!!! I can't down it!!! please!!!

Media fire http://www.mediafire.com/?cjzzrx9m0jn

so far I love JunJun, she looks so good in it, and Koharu as center  :heart:

Even though i love Ai, 6 seconds of her at the end >_<
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Stryfe on July 06, 2007, 05:45:05 PM
Even though i love Ai, 6 seconds of her at the end >_<

I know what you mean. Pure bliss.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: BakHamNoi on July 06, 2007, 05:47:59 PM
That' is so blah that Koharu is in the center, i would prefer more Chinese girls screentimes.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: kingthaking81 on July 06, 2007, 06:06:07 PM
so so PV.
i really demand a new PV structure..it's always dance-shot/closeups/mini groupshots..
this song could have been a great outdoor pv with a nice plot or something, like MK's kawaii kare
well, at least they look great!
junjun & linlin they only have like 2 sentences throughout the whole song!  :frustrated:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Reanimation on July 06, 2007, 06:08:52 PM
we havent seen the "another version" yet and the "close-up" as well.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: mr.niigaki on July 06, 2007, 06:14:16 PM
I must be pretty easy to please, because I love the PV and the song more now.  :heart:

The only slight problem I have, that really doesn't bother me too much (especially the Risa parts) is the mouthing of 'baka'.

I can't wait for a high quality version so I can tell people apart better, but I really love this single. And even with 3 great singles in a row!  :wub:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: JFC on July 06, 2007, 06:19:01 PM
Just saw the PV. Looks like they're going for a "trance" type of sound with this song. Personally I don't think the outfits really fit the song, though. They look like something you'd see in a Mardi Gras parade or something like that.

The silent "baka" thing was kinda hot...:sweat:. Miki-sama would have been perfect for it. :(

Oh, and the staredown by Aichan at the end...:imdead:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: shindoushiz on July 06, 2007, 06:23:05 PM
I just watched it once but the PV looks rushed, like they didn't actually make a real PV. Might be from the mouth movements looking awkward at times and the editing.  But I didn't like the cheapness of it. :-\  They were just on this stage, like in a gay bar or cabaret type place. Some of them are too young for that scene. :lol:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: wegaro on July 06, 2007, 06:30:55 PM
Please!!! Can someone up the PV in othe host? like medifire or something like that!!! I can't down it!!! please!!!

Media fire http://www.mediafire.com/?cjzzrx9m0jn

so far I love JunJun, she looks so good in it, and Koharu as center  :heart:

Even though i love Ai, 6 seconds of her at the end >_<

Thank You very much Brat-san !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!^______________________________________^y
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ggliff on July 06, 2007, 07:00:25 PM
Can't stop watching/listening :D

DL clean mp3 rip

megaupload (http://www.twitter.com/?d=99BP5V95) or sendspace (http://www.sendspace.com/file/b6egi0)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Angelus on July 06, 2007, 07:05:32 PM
The close up of Reina's mouth made me realize she has terrible teeth. o_o
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: yumestarlet on July 06, 2007, 08:05:47 PM
Risa... is... PISSED.
I LOVE IT.
She, Eri, and Junjun have the best silent 'bakas,' I think.

I was never a huge Junjun fan before this PV, honestly, but in those shots where she's singing with Linlin, she REALLY caught my eye.

And the dance is great.

My gripes-- baaaad choice for Reina to do the two beginning 'baka's there. As Angelus said, her teeth look TERRIBLE. Not that they didn't before-- but those really don't need their own closeup. And sugary, happy Koharu... was such a strange choice for the dancer in the middle. LOTS of Takahashi, but on a good note, I honestly think she looked great. In the shots where she's sitting down with Sayumi, she really gave the impression of-- "leader of MM, GOT IT? Mess with my girls and DIE. >O"

Anyway, bottom line, I actually really liked it.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 06, 2007, 08:21:35 PM
OHSHI~

PV GETSU~!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Pinkosa on July 06, 2007, 08:35:26 PM
I LOVE IT  :heart:
I Hated Koharu in the center, it would have been perfect without her on the center XD
Thanks anyway~
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Nouciel on July 06, 2007, 08:50:57 PM
Sayu x Ai make a really hot duo.
my fav girls, Reina, Gaki and Kame looked hot too XD
Aika's voice has lost its weirdness. It sounds awesome right now.
Junjun's death stare was :imdead: and Linlin's voice = :heart:
It was a bit similar to The Peace PV, and some dance moves were Ambitious-ish, it's going to be a grrrreat song for concerts. yay Eurobeat  :w00t:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: genericpaperdoll on July 06, 2007, 08:55:12 PM
It's an okay PV. I like the dancing and everyone looks great (especially Junjun :heart: :heart: and Eri). I don't really like the recycled-from-The-Peace outfits and the mouthed "baka"s were kind of weird and distracting. But I could deal with that if they removed Koharu from the middle. bleh. But other than that it's pretty good and I definiatly like the song a lot more too :wink:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Dj-B13 on July 06, 2007, 09:49:59 PM
Very nice PV. Costumes look amazing, nice to see LinLin and junJun who look great, as do the others, especially Ai-chan and Reina. And lol at the baka baka :D The more times I listen to this song the better I like it.

DL avi rip HERE (http://www.twitter.com/?d=2WMU5UZA)

THANK YOU VERY MUCH~!!! :wub:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Nyago on July 06, 2007, 09:53:08 PM
Love it! This is the best Studio PV in a while. This has solidified my love for 8th gen. I didn't think LinLin looked THAT much like Ayaka before but after seeing this PV.... whoa man. She was Ayaka to the extreme.

*ahem* In your face to those who thought that LinLin got that "Onna ni Sachi Are" solo line near the end. JunJun forever!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Yasu on July 06, 2007, 09:53:26 PM
... I don't really like the PV. Sayu, Ai, Linlin and Risa all look really pretty.

... I love Linlin's solo... line thingy. I love her voice. D: ... I think she's becoming my second fave just because of that.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Marco Malvado on July 06, 2007, 10:15:57 PM
Wow! It's been a while since I've been here. Guess I've been sulking since the debut of the stupid new baby puppet king show, Yossi's grad and Aibon's imminent return getting torpedoed.

...but I'm back! Hi, everybody!

Oh, yeah -- the PV. LOVE the new single!! Can't get it out of my head! And the girls mouthing "baka" is almost hot enough to make me ignore the horrible Big Bird costumes.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on July 06, 2007, 10:59:09 PM
Personally I woulda thought this song woulda been one of those awesome songs to have a clear story line to it, but MM probably have a policy against allowing MM to have other people in their PVs now...LOL (joking joking).

-How high were lin's heels or how big was the post she stood on for that side by side part
-This is the first time I've felt that Ai's short hair look has been more sexy than cute
-Aika doesn't look like she can look made and say "baka" which makes her adorable
-Reina matches the attitude of the song very well (Angry, Aggressive, but still hopeful)
-Sayu was still cute but has very angry looking eyebrows sometimes (not that I didn't notice it earlier but it works for this song)
-Risa and Eri is gorgeous in this although they don't get screen time facing forward much
-Chun seems to get the less focus camera angle...but is still nice to see! especailly cause of her height you can tell where she is ^^
-Lin does have a sort of ayaka vibe but she looks different enough to make her place I think... she scares me a little with her look sometimes
-Koharu.... honestly because of her wide eyes and her face shape I have a hard time thinking she's angry (like during the baka moments) and it seems more like she's pouting.

I like the song more now that I have visuals to attach to... but I hope like aruiteru, ambitious, sexyboy, etc. they have a different set of outfits for stage performances. Not that I don't like the yellow, but seeing something different for the stage would be awesome. It was kind cool seeing the Diamond and slim ambitious set, and the marching band looking aruiteru.

With the latest theme being "Guys suck" sorta... makes me wonder how long before we get a cheery song or a kind song for a lead... But I won't think ahead as I'm enjoying the moment
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ChiruChaCha on July 06, 2007, 11:08:56 PM
I like the coreography a lot but the costumes don't fit at all. Everyone looks good, and even though I don't like the idea of Koharu being in the center she did pretty good in the dance shots(for Koharu, that is). I liked it when Eri kicked and someone don't know who it is) ducked under her leg, but makes me think it could be a little dangerous in the lives especially with Eri's legs  :P

I'm really looking forward to watch the lives, and although it's not very likely I hope they get cooler outfits for them.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: misugi on July 07, 2007, 03:48:03 AM
The PV was alright, really looking forward to the Live now. :)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: miki on July 07, 2007, 04:11:54 AM
very nice PV. so "gold" xDD i like it.. JUn & Lin looks georgeous here..
Aichan is just  :heart: :heart: :heart: Eri is stunning  :w00t:
the dance looks cool too~

Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: prettylovely1 on July 07, 2007, 05:51:14 AM
The video stinks. I really like the techno in the song but the only good/cool thing about the is the silent "BAKA" other than the the costumes look like the ones from "the peace". I guess now that Miki & Hitomi are gone Koharu & Ai our now the center members? I can live with that as long as aika is not the only 8th gen. She aint special enough for it. I hope the next PV is better.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Matyeu on July 07, 2007, 06:26:47 AM
we havent seen the "another version" yet and the "close-up" as well.

Maybe there'll be a "Baka version" Just like the "suki version" from Go girl! Koi no victory. Except that, I can't wait to see a dance shot OR a live cause the dance seems really good compared to their latest songs!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ferrar1 on July 07, 2007, 06:32:35 AM
i really like the chorus, very new for MM's style and i hope they do continue to explore new genre.

as for the PV, it's gorgeous. I'm really looking forward to the HQ dance version. also as everyone has said, looking forward to HQ live from MS or any others.

i'm just disappointed that i don't see Eri at all till the 2nd half XD she's so smoking hawt, wonder what's the director thinking. Sayu looks abit plump but that's ok, i like her that way :D JunJun doesn't look like she can dance well.

Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Gblue on July 07, 2007, 07:13:17 AM
omg the pv is great!
the girls all look great, i like the dance, but i didn't like being called an idiot all the way through :lol:
junjun and linlin are pretty cool too. i didn't know what to expect from them, but i'm more impressed with them than some existing members!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Kya on July 07, 2007, 10:06:18 AM
I'm an opinionated sod, and since I'm addicted to the song and want to learn the dance, I've watched the pV way too much and have come to the following conlcusions in my own biased opinion. :)

The set is absolutely gorgeous! <3333 It's the best set in a PV since god knows how long, possibly Irropoi Jirittai. I don't know. I love the floor and ceiling, and all the gold in the close ups. It looks really nice. Five stars! XD

The hair styles are brilliant again, minus the feathers. Eri's long hair grew on my in this PV, it looks really nice, thank god, since Eri always seems to get the less impressive hair cuts some how. And this may seem really odd, but the earrings! OMG! *__* I want them all!! The costumes themselves are ghastly though. x_x I hate the feathers, they are horrible, it reminds me of CanCan dancers, and MoMusu are infinately more talented and too pretty to be associated with such people X__x;

The dance is great, I can see people in dance classes in Japan learning it, which means more publicity regarding teens and children and what not XD However, Koharu should not be the lead, firstly as there are more talented dancers than her in MoMusu. Sayu is a very good dancer and since she didn't have much too do, she should have been more central I think. She needs a centre dance part, it makes up for her lack of singing skill. Koharu's too CHEERFUL! In cuter, happy songs she's perfect but throughout this she pouted or smiled - or looked like she was trying not to smile. It drove me crazy >__< I hope to god in live performances she isn't going smile all the time because it doesn't fit.

Junjun and Linlin rawked. They really did. I think they are going to fit in very well. <333
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ©MicHi on July 07, 2007, 12:10:08 PM
the pv is really nice...all of them a fearsome! ahahaha... BAKA!!! at 1st when i watched the pv, it makes me think bout akb48 bcuz of the stage ahahaha... really like their serious face!!! esspecially risa's eye!! ahahah she makes me crazy!!!  XD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Fracture on July 07, 2007, 05:12:18 PM
The song's good, the PV's okay, the costumes are horrid.  The fact that they still manage to look good dressed like cabana rejects is a testament to THE HAWTNESS.

PS:  junjun/linlin duo photobook plz kthx
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on July 07, 2007, 05:14:36 PM
I missed Miki's Death stare .......

I think this PV is made for her ........ but too bad ........
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: JFC on July 07, 2007, 05:23:43 PM
Maybe there'll be a "Baka version" Just like the "suki version" from Go girl! Koi no victory.
Oh snap that would have been PERFECT for Miki! :on lol:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ©MicHi on July 07, 2007, 06:07:12 PM
ahahahah....may be for the close-up ver they change to "BAKA" ver... ahahahah
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ChiruChaCha on July 07, 2007, 06:38:30 PM
(http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9923/vlcsnap49949op3.th.png) (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap49949op3.png)

Camera guy:   :imdead:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 07, 2007, 06:41:09 PM
Question: why did they make LinLin look taller than JunJun on this?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Brat-san on July 07, 2007, 06:44:00 PM
My guess is the overall camera work of this PV, it's a lot different than most, getting many side shots and aiming higher on the face when shooting them directly.  They didn't want them to be seen from a natural look, so with those two they made it the opposite and created the illusion of a taller LinLin

But thats just my guess
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Kamui on July 07, 2007, 06:50:36 PM
I liked it! Just before watching it I honestly thought I was going to get bored with it and not care but boy did I turn out to be wrong. The song is great but I do agree the costumes were horrible, sort of like the ones from the end part of The Peace. I thought after Kanashimi Twilight that they would ease up on the whole uniformed look from now on but unfortunately I was wrong.

I totally forgot JunJun and LinLin were in this, not bad. Eri looked soo hot, lately she's been reminding me of Rika back when she had her hair black. Sayumi did look a little bit rounder but thats fine. I just realized I don't remember seeing Aika in it.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: linlin on July 07, 2007, 10:27:44 PM
What's in Limit A DVD? Cover photo shoot again?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Pinkosa on July 07, 2007, 10:45:15 PM
^It says on CDJapan that the DVD contains an alternate version of the PV~
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: shurastriker on July 08, 2007, 12:48:15 AM
i like the song but the outfits are terrible, they look like some kind of weird tribal dance group... too much yellow for me. Oh but since its so much Ai in the PV the bad turns in to betters .

one question... they are not using shoes right?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ChiruChaCha on July 08, 2007, 12:50:00 AM

one question... they are not using shoes right?


Nope
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Parhelion69 on July 08, 2007, 02:45:58 AM
First, I ABSOLUTELY love the song, I'm running the PV nonstop the whole time I'm at home  XD

I also loved the choreography, the moves are energetic and good looking and make me wanna dance! Those look just so cool.

My review of the PV:

My favorite parts are:
-The chorus, starting at 1:04, I love how junjun looks at 1:06, she's gorgeous and she's moving pretty good.
-The part around 3:18, Takkitty is giving the best singing in the song, while there is a subtle boom sound and the girls start going a bit down, looks pretty cool.
-Risa's solo, I love the way she looks.
-The ending of the video, Takkity owns  :wub:


I expected more of linlin, specially after hearing her excellent singing in those fan recordings, but to be fair, she only has one short line and we haven't listened to her live yet, and the lines both new girls share sound pretty good. Anyway, I think they're both good additions to MM's lineup.

Takkity looks more mature now, the way she acts, she's everybody's senpai now, but she also looks like the girls' pimp  She has that look "Don't touch ma bitches!"  XD

Eri owns too, it was damn about time, the edit of the cameras when they show her from the side was genius. More camera for her, isn't what everybody wanted?

Reina, it's nice having you back. She looked pretty sharp, and she was in the spotlight a couple times. She exagerates a bit on the baka part, but it's fine for me.

Sayu has too little camera time too, but she looks stunning when she appears, she's so pretty, specially since she gained some weight, I love how she looks now  :wub:. (Hope I can see her a bit more on performances)


Finally, I'm REALLY glad that Miki isn't in this single, to be honest, she's a terrible dancer (because she never tries her best), I heard she has some back problems, that could be the reason.... Anyway, she wouldn't be able to perform so intensive dancing and she would TOTALLY look out of place, specially since she usually looks bored on performances.... (Maybe she decided to quit when she tried the dancing... lazy girl  :P)

Damn I want performances sooo bad....
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Angelus on July 08, 2007, 03:14:34 AM
I just realized I don't remember seeing Aika in it.
It's true, every line that Aika shares with Koharu, they only show Koharu and not Aika. It's like some big Koharu promotion video. Ugh. This PV does not do Aika justice!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: shurastriker on July 08, 2007, 03:55:26 AM
Takkity looks more mature now, the way she acts, she's everybody's senpai now, but she also looks like the girls' pimp  She has that look "Don't touch ma bitches!"  XD

looool me he reido tanto que no me sale el inglés... i was laughing so hard that i forget my poor english for a wile XDDDD but you are totally right, Ai is now the pimp of the girls but it´s weird that takitty looks older in the video but in other pics she looks even more younger that with the long hair.

it was strange, the girls dancing without shoes... maybe because Ai-chan isn´t fully recovered from her accident
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Ren on July 08, 2007, 05:56:35 AM
First impression: "OMGWTFBBG Golden Chickens?! :O"

Some points from me:
(1) Too yellow for me, too flashy that it hurts my eyes.
(2) Reina is finally back and she is hot. :heart:
(3) Yay for Reina close-up. Her teeth doesn't impress me but its still cute. :wub:
(4) If it's not for Reina I won't watch this PV again.
(5) Koha as center = :rofl: and she smiles too much.
(6) Hate the outfit, please don't wear it for Music Station (if they wear it to MS, it must be a punishment for me as I laughed at Kanjani8's colorful zebra outfit during Music Station). Even C-ute can have different outfit for performance. Is this what Tsunku meant by trendy? I hope not.
(7) Aichan grow your hair again please. Her hair annoys me to some point I want to skip the PV during her closeup. Usually with her long hair I love to watch her closeup.
(8 ) It's Aichan feat. Pandas, Kirari, and other girls. Aichan's singing doesn't impress me in Onna ni Sachi Are. I don't know, it just strikes me that her voice doesn't really match with the song. :lol:
(9) The song seems pretty mediocre and some parts sound bland. The lyric isn't bad though.
(10) Junjun's Onna ni Sachi Aleeeee~ :lol:
(11) Linlin, please stop moving your head when you sing. And where is your awesome voice from the FC fanrecord?
(12) Stop mouthing the baka multiple times! It looks rather... baka. XD

BTW is there any schedule for the upcoming performances? Even if I don't view this single as a good single (Kanashimi Twilight > Onna ni Sachi Are), I don't want this single to fail badly on the chart, so moar performances please and I hope if they wear a better outfit I can like this single better.

*goes back to listening Amuro's PLAY* :D

Oh and how can I forgot the part where Kamei-Koha-Reina together, cause the whole time I watch that its like "Koha why do you have to be there? it'll be perfect for TanaKamei time.." I still heart Koha. :D
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Pinkosa on July 08, 2007, 07:53:06 AM
I just realized I don't remember seeing Aika in it.
It's true, every line that Aika shares with Koharu, they only show Koharu and not Aika. It's like some big Koharu promotion video. Ugh. This PV does not do Aika justice!

In my view, I think Tsunku tried to put Koharu as a new Miki. Her hair looks like Miki's also XD Still don't know what is she doing on MM, her voice doesn't suit with the others, sounds like a chipmunk.

Poor Aika, she didn't get too much shoots, she only had like one or two, just like Risa.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on July 08, 2007, 09:50:54 AM
I think Koha got most of Miki's line.... and her voice is not ready for the job. In other words, SHE SUCKS !!!!!!!!!

Others should get those lines
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: frblckstr1 on July 08, 2007, 10:42:04 AM
Yes, Koharu up front in the first shot?? Sorry but no sale.

She might do good in anime songs but not this type.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Dj-B13 on July 08, 2007, 11:31:04 AM
haha, I didn't notice that Koharu did prolly get most of miki's line.

But I still do like the song though nonethless, still is'nt as good as KT though  :heart: :bingo:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ChiruChaCha on July 08, 2007, 11:38:59 AM

BTW is there any schedule for the upcoming performances? Even if I don't view this single as a good single (Kanashimi Twilight > Onna ni Sachi Are), I don't want this single to fail badly on the chart, so moar performances please and I hope if they wear a better outfit I can like this single better.


Music Japan's perf posted a few pages back will air on July 27th, and sorry, not such luck about the outfit change, too bad...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Ren on July 08, 2007, 01:19:37 PM
Ah yeah, I found the pictures and fanrecord of MJ performance. Thanks. :) But I meant the performances for the shows not posted yet in this thread, like for Utaban, Music Station, Music Fighter, etc. Sorry I didn't worded it better. XD

I wouldn't mind much about the outfit if this is their concert outfits, but for PV or TV performances, they should wear better outfit, IMO.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Rick-e on July 08, 2007, 04:47:27 PM
I kinda like this PV, though it's dissapointing to see another low-budget PV from MM :( hope on the next single they can make something better.

IMO what makes the PV is the members saying "baka" :D love it.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Masabi on July 09, 2007, 01:06:08 AM
good member performances > larger budget in my opinion.  i'd rather see the members being themselves in a low budget production then see mostly special effects and barely any of the members :|  and as for people saying other people "SUCK" maybe it'd be better if we stayed positive :?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Koolmon93 on July 09, 2007, 01:46:09 AM
haha, I didn't notice that Koharu did prolly get most of miki's line.

But I still do like the song though nonethless, still is'nt as good as KT though  :heart: :bingo:

I still think Ai got Miki's lines because Koharu only has like a verse solo then an asahi ano ko de.

The PV is good! Budget! YAY! The thing is you can barely see the people who are singing. I wanna who who sings group parts DAMMIT! >< The random bakas were like WTF. But overall, good PV. The perfs might seem a bit weird with all the feathers and such.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Brat-san on July 09, 2007, 01:51:41 AM
^ I doubt they'll let Tsunku make them perform in those.  Ai will have to put her foot down. XD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: burichu on July 09, 2007, 01:56:46 AM
Ok, I KNOW it is has already been said. But it is really bothering me how much the outfits look like THE PEACE.
Do you think TSUNKU is trying to get everyone to reminisce, i mean it made me watch the peace video over again for sure.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: winner on July 09, 2007, 03:51:45 AM
1. WOW! When did Rika come back to Morni... oh, it's Takkity!!  :lol:
2. Outfits do fit performances more, losing the fluffy stuff might've helped. The little wrist-cloths might look great in performances.
3. More than one color in the PV might've helped. Silver and gold outfits maybe?
4. No shoes... what are they thinking~ :O
5. The song isn't very memorable.
6. JunJun close-ups = hot.
7. Happy to see members like Eri and Sayu get more spotlight.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: lil_hamz on July 09, 2007, 08:21:54 AM
The first thought I had as soon as the PV started was "Woah, The Peace!." I was half expecting toilet bowls to start appearing  :lol:

It was surprising to see Reina in the first scene. Where's the Ai pimping?  I soon regretted asking that question. Every other scene thereafter was Ai-chan, no doubt her vehicle, as usual. Too bad they curled her hair which made her look worse than she really is. Considering how she got about 70% of the screentime, they could have at least gave her a nicer hairstyle. The Ai-chan I know can certainly look much, much better  :yep:

It's about time they let Reina out from the celler they stuffed her in. YAY to her getting 3rd lead (I'm guessing 3rd after Ai and Koharu). Which makes me wonder, why was she taken off front girl position after Ambitious? Both dancing and singing are done with no problems but she was overdoing a little on the baka bit.
 
To see Koharu in the middle for a fair bit was a pleasant surprise. I 'd always liked the girl, whether as Kirari or spazzy miracle girl. But this is the first time I realized she could dance! Oh god, I would have probably kept my eyes glued on her throughout if I wasn't trying so hard to spot Risa  :mon sweat:

What can I say about Gaki-san besides the fact that I absolutely adore her....*ponders a little* Oh I know, how about that she got shoved into the back and side AGAIN. I was hoping to see  more of her after the untimely resignation of Miki but alas I was left disappointed. Well at least they had the decency to include some awesome shots of her dancing  :wriggly:
 
Sayumi looks good, no doubt about that. She has got to be one of the prettiest in the current line-up, that's why her I'm-too-cute-for-the-world persona never annoyed me. She has every right to be narcissistic :mon heh: This time she looked really great just lounging there, possibly even overshadowing Ai. I can't comment on her dance since I couldn't see the faces of anyone past the first row.

What I think about Eri could be summarized in one word.... WOW. She's has never been the highest on my list but there's no denying Kame has come a long way. Is this really the same shy girl who hid in tight spaces? And I had originally thought she had reached her personal best in KT. I couldn't have been more wrong about that. Give the girl more lines! She can sing, dance, is gorgeous, has a great figure and is pretty funny during shows if given the chance. Put her back in front girl position. It has been too long since Chokkan.

Aika....well....I really don't know. I didn't notice her much in the pair shots since she was with Risa and there's no way I could tear my eyes away from Risa  :shy1: Trying to spot her during scenes of the dance is practically impossible. Everyone's faces were blurry and the tons of feathers weren't helping. But there is one thing I can say about
the only 8th gen member from Japan, she can sing.

I never thought I'll say this but Jun2 actually looks pretty good. Better in the shots with Lin2 than in the close-ups. It could be due to the fact that her semi-side face looks way better or perhaps it's just cuz they had to draw those scary eye make-up on Lin2. Her singing voice is kinda nice and she sounds really competant as compared to Lin2. But still, it isn't really fair to judge them now with only one line each.

I'm quite alright with Lin2 as a whole. She seems too enthusiastic some times but hey, it's better to have an eager beaver new member then someone who's pulling a face the whole time right? And no, I'm not talking about Miki :whistle: Also, did anyone else find her voice to sound extremely similiar to Sayumi?

All in all, I like the song, the girls all look good (so I can forgive the PV being a ripoff of The Peace) but can somebody tell them the heaps of feathers are really distracting? They could be potentially hazardous to people in the audience who are asthmatic :wahaha:

PS: Oops, I didn't realize I rambled on for so long. Sorry for having to read through it :kneelbow:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: satan ahh lunn on July 09, 2007, 11:34:01 PM
dis is a great Single by Momusu, i really liked it but the PV wasn't really great but still great.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ~Dan~ on July 10, 2007, 12:04:41 AM
I liked the fast version so much I made a fast version of the PV.
http://sharebee.com/d4fcba58
 :lol: XD :) :D
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Yuuyami on July 10, 2007, 01:14:39 AM
I hear people claiming that Linlin sounds like a weird Nacchi or as Hamz said, like Sayu.

Get it right, people. She looks like Ayaka and sounds like Mai. xD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Yukari on July 10, 2007, 01:36:45 AM
the PV is like the peace, i don't like it  :O

but... the single is great, a nice song, a little sad  :heart:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: len.chan on July 10, 2007, 05:22:51 AM
I hear people claiming that Linlin sounds like a weird Nacchi or as Hamz said, like Sayu.

Get it right, people. She looks like Ayaka and sounds like Mai. xD

you stole my words Yuu XDDD In the fusion she lost some height, though XD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on July 10, 2007, 10:39:08 AM
damn, that means she can cosplay Country Musume, Coconuts Musume, and Mini Moni XD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Koolmon93 on July 10, 2007, 04:20:11 PM
Minimoni was Mika. XD Linlin still kicks-ass!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: LovelyMermaid on July 10, 2007, 04:45:12 PM
They say minimoni because of her height.~
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Koolmon93 on July 10, 2007, 05:15:23 PM
Ahh I see. XD I say we should start Minimoni 2.0. The group consists of Linlin, Shimizu Saki, Okai Chisato, and who else is short? XD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: frblckstr1 on July 10, 2007, 05:20:04 PM
^ Mini moni is short as in <1m50cm, I think only Mary still qualifies?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: raiknii on July 10, 2007, 05:40:24 PM
^ Linlin is the same height as Aichan (153 cm). In Morning Musume, only Reina (151.7 cm) is shorter. (On a side note, both Sakis are 150 cm, Chisato is 148, and Hagiwara is 144. As far as I remember, only they and Mari still qualify by the original rules. Nono is actually 151 cm now. XD)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Koolmon93 on July 10, 2007, 05:48:42 PM
^I blame the baby!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ChiruChaCha on July 10, 2007, 07:14:27 PM
(http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/305/img20070710141205tq0.th.jpg) (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img20070710141205tq0.jpg)

Clearer pic of the outfits.

I don't like the butterflies in the front much but I do like the necklaces. I think Reina and Eri look awesome, not the best pic for the rest though.

Btw, could the background be Haromoni@'s perf's stage?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: yumestarlet on July 10, 2007, 07:33:49 PM
^ Yep, that's definitely Haromoni's stage.

And thanks for that clear picture! I love how Takahashi's big feather just completely protrudes out. XDD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Yuuyami on July 10, 2007, 08:11:32 PM
Actually, I thought the roadkill on Risa's head was bigger xD It's the size of her head and has a bigger feather than Ai's, I think.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on July 10, 2007, 09:41:58 PM
Its an awesome picture I think! very adorable while it shows the outfits are unique in their own right... didn't notice the butterfly patterns on the front before!

Haromoni castle performance! Yay!! Can't wait to see them do it!

The headdresses are a bit big but its not that bad I think.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: cool_kickin_dude on July 11, 2007, 01:20:38 PM
saw the PV yesterday, it did remind me of The PEACE costumes on the cd cover..other than that, love the song!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Rei-chan on July 12, 2007, 12:36:37 AM
I loved:
- Takitty's new hair

I liked:
- JunJun and LinLin in the PV
- the song
- some of the dance

I hated:
- all of Reina's appearances in the PV XD
- the excessive yellow-ness and carnival-ness of the costumes
- some of the dance
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Koolmon93 on July 12, 2007, 01:58:10 AM
I think Aichan's hair looks better than the PV. It's not as short and not curly!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: mode107 on July 12, 2007, 02:00:40 AM
I can't stand Aichan's hair, I wish she just kept it long.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: wonkey_eye on July 12, 2007, 02:04:23 AM
Yay JunJun! She looked so kawaii in the pv. The song ish okies and singing to =)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Rei-chan on July 12, 2007, 02:55:16 PM
I can't stand Aichan's hair, I wish she just kept it long.

I'm glad she finally changed it. I remember when Kanashimi Twilight's PV came out, I told someone 'i wish they'd change her hairstyle already!' coz it got soooo boring to see her with the same length and style for so long. Her look got boring to me, because she looked the same for too long XD

So I'm really glad she changed it. And it looks very mature and stylish too. The only bad thing, in my opinion, is that now she looks out of place with the rest of the current Momusu, coz the others look too young and boring in comparison XD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Koolmon93 on July 12, 2007, 06:16:06 PM
Maybe short hair is a leader thing?? *Points to Saki, Rika, and when Yossi was leader*
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on July 12, 2007, 07:04:23 PM
nah , I don't think so ..... *point @ Kaori*

I think it's because of her stylist ..... *memo to myself: stole his/her scissors*
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chroe on July 12, 2007, 08:20:37 PM
Love the song and the video (Can anyone tell me if there's a HQ-version of the PV?)
I think they're trying to slightly adjust the image of MoMusu this year. Egao Yes Nude, Kanashimi Twilight and Onna ni Sachi are all have a "kawaii" feeling, but are very sexy at the same time  :heart:

 


 
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 12, 2007, 09:00:16 PM
^yeah, kawaii pushing sexy i guess
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Koolmon93 on July 12, 2007, 09:57:09 PM
nah , I don't think so ..... *point @ Kaori*

I think it's because of her stylist ..... *memo to myself: stole his/her scissors*

But she's an exception. Yuko had short hair too!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: mode107 on July 13, 2007, 03:25:43 AM
When I watch the PV, I almost forget that Aika's a member. Don't get me wrong, I love that she's in Momusu now, I just find it funny how when I watch the PV, and I think of the other grls,but totally leave her out, and when she pops on screen, I get surprised for a quick second or two.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on July 13, 2007, 07:40:27 AM
nah , I don't think so ..... *point @ Kaori*

I think it's because of her stylist ..... *memo to myself: stole his/her scissors*

But she's an exception. Yuko had short hair too!
Yuko cut that herself (before she got really long hair).... well ... as an act of showing how serious she want to become a singer (ref. -> Musume Comics ... which is based on real facts)

When I watch the PV, I almost forget that Aika's a member. Don't get me wrong, I love that she's in Momusu now, I just find it funny how when I watch the PV, and I think of the other grls,but totally leave her out, and when she pops on screen, I get surprised for a quick second or two.
Yeah, she's in MM, but not "in" MM .... even the Pandas are "in" now (I mean the PV), but she's still not .... Aika needs to work harder .....
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: BakHamNoi on July 13, 2007, 05:52:45 PM
well, Kaori had short hair too.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on July 13, 2007, 06:21:38 PM
^But wasn't that only after she left MM??
Cuz I remember it was still long in Manpower but was short around the time Koharu joined.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Pinkosa on July 13, 2007, 06:24:10 PM
When I watch the PV, I almost forget that Aika's a member. Don't get me wrong, I love that she's in Momusu now, I just find it funny how when I watch the PV, and I think of the other grls,but totally leave her out, and when she pops on screen, I get surprised for a quick second or two.
Yeah, she's in MM, but not "in" MM .... even the Pandas are "in" now (I mean the PV), but she's still not .... Aika needs to work harder .....
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Aika don't really need to work harder, she's already better than some girls, is just that she doesn't get too many shots as other members. She has lines with Koharu but they only focus in Koharu ><.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on July 14, 2007, 03:38:10 AM
Aika don't really need to work harder, she's already better than some girls, is just that she doesn't get too many shots as other members. She has lines with Koharu but they only focus in Koharu ><.

I meant she need to work hard to get more attention ^_^
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: bot on July 14, 2007, 03:32:43 PM
well in her defence, I really don't think this single has an aika feel to it. of course, she should learn to henshin ago-go but if it were that easy, everybody would be takahashi. she looks a fish out of water in the baka segments and in magazine shots other musume are doing their best to look fashionable but aika just looks out of sorts.   
I am starting to like her and her both-gremlin-and-mogwai-at-once ness.
I think Linlin isn't very photogenic. I mean this as a compliment, as in her photos don't seem to do her justice.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on July 14, 2007, 05:17:43 PM
^I totally agree and have said that before about her pictures.  I'm sure in time though, she and they'll work out how to give her more justice in pictures(cuz there have been some other H!P members that weren't very photogenic when they joined)

Does anyone know what is on the limited edition dvd??
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Pinkosa on July 14, 2007, 06:36:00 PM
^I posted it while ago, is still saying an an alternate version of the PV. I think is the Dance Shot because the Close-Up comes in the Single V.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 14, 2007, 07:29:49 PM
Morning Musume message on CD-Data Magazine's site, cddata-mag.com
http://in.solit.us/archives/download/57374
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: black velvet on July 14, 2007, 07:45:59 PM
I'm glad she finally changed it. I remember when Kanashimi Twilight's PV came out, I told someone 'i wish they'd change her hairstyle already!' coz it got soooo boring to see her with the same length and style for so long. Her look got boring to me, because she looked the same for too long XD

So I'm really glad she changed it. And it looks very mature and stylish too. The only bad thing, in my opinion, is that now she looks out of place with the rest of the current Momusu, coz the others look too young and boring in comparison XD
I simply have to agree. The shortest her hair has ever been is when she first joined Momusu. This was a good change for her, as I think that it makes her look more sophisticated, which is a good look for a leader. Of course, some people may think that longer hair is more mature looking, but that's where we all have our different opinions, I guess. Maybe she'll grow it back out . . .
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on July 14, 2007, 09:35:26 PM
dammit, now I have to choose between the two limited editions T_T cuz I really want the dance-shot but I also want the pb..I assume the other limited version is a pb?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 15, 2007, 05:39:28 AM
^Correct.

Get the PB one.  You can always download the dance shot pv.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: satan ahh lunn on July 15, 2007, 04:37:55 PM
I'm glad she finally changed it. I remember when Kanashimi Twilight's PV came out, I told someone 'i wish they'd change her hairstyle already!' coz it got soooo boring to see her with the same length and style for so long. Her look got boring to me, because she looked the same for too long XD

So I'm really glad she changed it. And it looks very mature and stylish too. The only bad thing, in my opinion, is that now she looks out of place with the rest of the current Momusu, coz the others look too young and boring in comparison XD
I simply have to agree. The shortest her hair has ever been is when she first joined Momusu. This was a good change for her, as I think that it makes her look more sophisticated, which is a good look for a leader. Of course, some people may think that longer hair is more mature looking, but that's where we all have our different opinions, I guess. Maybe she'll grow it back out . . .

well, she doesn't look that bad with her hair shorter, but she shouldn't have curled it
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on July 17, 2007, 06:58:31 PM
I went to buy the version with the photobook but it was sold out!! T__T
So I bought the DVD one xD with sexy 8 beat(finally)
Aw well, dance-shots are cool ^_^
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Reanimation on July 19, 2007, 03:36:15 PM
c/w Please! Jiyuu no Tobira (Konya mo Usachan peace radio rip) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/ahapij)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Cookie on July 19, 2007, 03:36:55 PM
^ THANK YOU!!!!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: LovelyMermaid on July 19, 2007, 03:44:20 PM
Ooooh O: I like it a lot~!

....a song I'd like to hear Yossie in though ._.~
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chibilolli on July 19, 2007, 03:47:01 PM
Thanks for that. I think I prefer it to Onna ni Sachi Are.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ChiruChaCha on July 19, 2007, 05:36:12 PM
EDIT: fixed
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: satan ahh lunn on July 20, 2007, 12:06:26 AM
i have a question

if any of you guys uses cdjapan.co.jp den i want to ask you guys this

for the Limited Edition B, with the booklet how come the Availability become out of print???
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: raiknii on July 20, 2007, 12:27:06 AM
^ Because CDJapan's sold out.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 20, 2007, 01:10:53 AM
i have a question

if any of you guys uses cdjapan.co.jp den i want to ask you guys this

for the Limited Edition B, with the booklet how come the Availability become out of print???
^ Because CDJapan's sold out.
Because CDJapan, YesAsia, Amazon, etc... get a limited number of copies for the first batch, and they sell out quickly. That's why it is a good idea to place your order as soon as preordering is available.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: wakaba_doll on July 20, 2007, 01:25:44 AM
I really, really like this c/w!  :heart: It's a good complement to Onna and it's fun! Momusu needs some fun LOL
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: satan ahh lunn on July 20, 2007, 01:41:00 AM
^^^
omg that quick??!?!?!?!?!? i mean... man i should have preorder it too

 :badluck:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jompuan on July 20, 2007, 02:13:37 AM
thanks for c/w <3
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: StreakInTheSky on July 20, 2007, 06:14:47 AM
I just barely watched the pv right now.  Everything about it was recycled from previous singles, which is a total let down. The jacked the costumes and lighting from The Peace, and brought parts of the set of Ambitious and Egao Yes Nude to a new location. The song is even worse than I remember, just boring. Though I really liked the part when the music cut and it was just Aichan singing. The dancing was pretty nice too, but nothing really special.

All the girls looked totally hot though, especially Eri and Chun Li. They oozed hotness with the perfect amount of cute. Aichan was also hot as always, but I found her hotter on previous PV's.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: vscarecrow on July 20, 2007, 09:59:09 AM
This is the song I would call "interesting" after Ambitious, it instantly grew on me. (But too much Takahashi...) The PV looks so Peace-ish and cheap, though (haven't downloaded it, just saw some screenshots).
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on July 20, 2007, 10:31:06 AM
That the peace comparison thing gets interesting though because if you think about it, anybody joining into the Musume interest now could see the reference at some point and go... hey wait a sec... none of these girls are those girls.... because The Peace was the last single before the 5kkies joined, and they are now the top... so its like... wow, when I realized that I watched the peace and I watched onna ni sachi are and I was kinda in an odd sort of awe... cause if it was intentional its kinda ingenious and if it was accidental...its just wow...freaky.

So how long before we got a Renai Revolution 21 remake vid thats awesome and kick butt?...LOL
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 20, 2007, 04:28:19 PM
According to Oricon's NINKI poll, there is a chance this single will sell better than the last two.

Oricon NINKI Poll

1. 81.70 Otsuka Ai - PEACH/HEART
2. 76.00 Morning Musume - Onna ni Sachi Are
3. 61.60 SEAMO - Fly Away
4. 60.80 RIP SLYME
5. 48.70 Yoshii Kazuya

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ns/
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on July 21, 2007, 09:20:35 AM
^That would completely awsome and brilliant if they sold that much!! O.O
That would be first week sales right?? Well everyone was saying that if a single similar to genki+ was released it would do pretty well and in my opinion this is pretty similar(as close as can be without being another chokkan i mean xD)

I did my part so gambare Momusu!!!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: almond on July 21, 2007, 08:19:21 PM
There have been so many changes since Kanashimi Twilight (Yossi Miki leaving, JunJun LinLin joining), I think it'll be interesting to see how this sells. Especially with the original backlash against JunLin.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ChiruChaCha on July 21, 2007, 09:32:47 PM
According to Oricon's NINKI poll, there is a chance this single will sell better than the last two.

Oricon NINKI Poll

1. 81.70 Otsuka Ai - PEACH/HEART
2. 76.00 Morning Musume - Onna ni Sachi Are
3. 61.60 SEAMO - Fly Away
4. 60.80 RIP SLYME
5. 48.70 Yoshii Kazuya

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ns/

No OLIVIA? Good...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: satan ahh lunn on July 21, 2007, 10:32:12 PM
yea i hope that their sale will go higher than the last two
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Angelus on July 22, 2007, 01:51:22 AM
... So. I prefer the high-speed version, so whenever I'm in the mood for this song, I listen to that one instead. Well, I just decided to listen to the normal version and wow, it's so slow. XD Damn high speed versions.

Is there a slow version...?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: satan ahh lunn on July 22, 2007, 02:34:32 AM
... So. I prefer the high-speed version, so whenever I'm in the mood for this song, I listen to that one instead. Well, I just decided to listen to the normal version and wow, it's so slow. XD Damn high speed versions.

Is there a slow version...?

what are you talking about??? High, Normal and Slow versions?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: LovelyMermaid on July 22, 2007, 02:40:07 AM
Further back in this thread, you can find a link to a fan-made high speed version of Onna Sachi Are, and that's what Angelus is refering to.~
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: satan ahh lunn on July 22, 2007, 03:08:19 AM
ok thank you, sounds really great and funny at high speed, but i can't find the slow version
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Angelus on July 22, 2007, 03:15:28 AM
There is none. xP I can probably make one but it would be terrible quality...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Cookie on July 22, 2007, 05:36:39 AM
Onna ni sachi are performance

http://www.sendspace.com/file/aeyn4q
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Pinkosa on July 22, 2007, 05:49:32 AM
The live was nice but in my opinion, Koharu sounded horrible. JunJun and LinLin were awesome  :heart:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: mini*wheat on July 22, 2007, 05:50:03 AM
Thanks for Cookie!
I can not WAIT to watch this as I love the song and have officially fallen in love with the pandas.  :heart: (Too bad my home internet isn't as fast as I want it to be. Ah well. It can wait until morning)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on July 22, 2007, 06:29:52 AM
The live was nice but in my opinion, Koharu sounded horrible. JunJun and LinLin were awesome  :heart:

actually .......... Koha always sounded horrible to me >_<""

anyway, it was awesome XD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: yumestarlet on July 22, 2007, 06:48:45 AM
FINALLY A LIVE~
I've been so excited for this. XD

I loved it live. Made me even more addicted to the song. I hate when they don't have them sing live, so I was 100% satisfied with everyone's singing. It's so much more fun to watch than it would've been if it had been lip synched.

Risa, Aika, and the Pandas all caught my attention in this live. Maybe I'm a little biased there, but Aika did awesome, I was a little worried for Junjun in the beginning but she did awesome by the end, Linlin broke out some pretty sweet dancing (and she's so awesome in front of the camera), and Risa's move right around 1:28-1:29 was just like-- BAM! HERE I AM! out of nowhere. It was awesome. XD

The only gripe I have is about some of the camera work. Obviously it's gonna be different than PVs and stuff, and it's cool that we get more closeups, but sometimes that makes some of the dance steps lose their effects (especially the ones around 0:21 and on). But I just noticed that 'cause I'm a big fan of this dance. But anyway~

Overall = YAY.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: dokidokisuru on July 22, 2007, 07:07:32 AM
Here's a YouTube link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svp0Wr0yCvI) of the performance.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 22, 2007, 07:09:37 AM
Performance was nice, the girls sung a little too hard on their mics at times (Takahashi was on point though, not a bias).

And damn, crotch shot at the end, but it was totally wasted on Koha XD  Any girl but Koha~ (and Aika and Lin Lin or whatever JB girls there are)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: genericpaperdoll on July 22, 2007, 07:13:50 AM
Thanks cookie! It's a pretty good performance. The pandas and Aika were awesome :heart: (biased XD). But, Koha, I like her, but she sounds really bad there XD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Angelus on July 22, 2007, 07:17:15 AM
Ooh... Koharu did sound a bit out of breath. Or was it just me?

Anyway, good performance. Aika was really great. So were the pandas.  :heart:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ohno on July 22, 2007, 07:40:38 AM
Did anyone see Sayu do that kick?  XD
(http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/4096/duckrisaoe7.th.jpg) (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=duckrisaoe7.jpg)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: SomethingWild on July 22, 2007, 11:02:07 AM
Great kick haha.

Not impressed with the vocals in the performance though..

I don't think this single will sell as much as KT.. I think somewhere between 35000 and 40000 in the first week. MM losing Yoshi and Miki will be a factor.. anyway, it is a big factor for me because I don't like the 8th gen members that much..
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on July 22, 2007, 12:08:24 PM
Hehe the kicks are awesome I bet it took a lot of trust not to flinch so much when the kicks come out sometimes...lol

I'm not impressed with how the vocals sounded for it... I don't necessarily blame them (after all their HM@ performances are probably the first done so that they are ready for the other programs), but the sound system people seemed to have balance issues... like why did Reina's solo line seem so muted? Was she that her singing to far from the mic or something? And maybe Ai was singing really close to her mic? I dunno seemed odd to me is all.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on July 22, 2007, 12:41:31 PM
(and Aika and Lin Lin or whatever JB girls there are)
I was like "....JaisBane girls??"  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks for the perf!

Hrmm I found it a bit of a mess, looking forward to a better perf. For some reason I find Koharu centre oddly refreshing, yeah she's been the sidekick for a while but seeing her stand in the centre was fun.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: satan ahh lunn on July 22, 2007, 04:42:21 PM
Koharu sounds kinda bad live. Also, on this Live Performance, i can actually tell wheres JunJun is, and yea, she is quite tall. On the PV, i can't really figure who was who when they were all dancing together. Thanks for it anyways Cookie
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: BakHamNoi on July 22, 2007, 07:47:30 PM
Do they cut Sayumi's mic in the Taka/Sayu line ?  :lol:

i realise that the girls look like they only wear pantsu under their "sort of" skirt
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Sukoshi on July 22, 2007, 11:10:29 PM
i realise that the girls look like they only wear pantsu under their "sort of" skirt

Yeah that's an absolute must  :sweat:

but anyways I loved the performance, it was very energetic, even though the mic volumes seem to be all over the place.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: satan ahh lunn on July 23, 2007, 02:07:50 AM
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9008/artistphotoqo6.jpg)
Credit - pizca@JPM <3

I wrote this in the Reina thread but I thought I'd write it here as well. Anyone think that Aika's hair makes her look like a chicken? I know I'm not alone on this because my nephew think so too but he always agrees with me.  XD

Unfortunately I only like Reina, Koharu, Jun Jun and Aika (even with the hair) in these pics. Everyone else looks bleh to me.
Plus, what is it with the dodgey outfits?????
i actually like how Aika looks here, since i didnt really like how she looked on Egao YES Nude and Kanashimi Twilight
this is where i start to like her  :D
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tiny on July 23, 2007, 10:20:27 AM
"Onna ni Sachi Are" will be promoted with a poster campaign at Shinjuku and Shibuya stations.

http://www.helloproject.com/newslist/musume_0707231420.html
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chibilolli on July 23, 2007, 04:05:11 PM
^That would completely awsome and brilliant if they sold that much!! O.O
That would be first week sales right?? Well everyone was saying that if a single similar to genki+ was released it would do pretty well and in my opinion this is pretty similar(as close as can be without being another chokkan i mean xD)

I did my part so gambare Momusu!!!

Unfortunatly it turns out I did my part as well. I forgot that I ordered this single before I even knew what it sounded like and now it's been dispatched.  :banghead:

At least its the photobook version so I should have something good to look at as it will probably never go in a CD player  XD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 23, 2007, 04:27:14 PM
"Onna ni Sachi Are" will be promoted with a poster campaign at Shinjuku and Shibuya stations.

http://www.helloproject.com/newslist/musume_0707231420.html
Yes, like this one

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/reyjfb/new%20rey/toro2793.jpg)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: BakHamNoi on July 23, 2007, 04:49:54 PM
"Onna ni Sachi Are" will be promoted with a poster campaign at Shinjuku and Shibuya stations.

http://www.helloproject.com/newslist/musume_0707231420.html
Yes, like this one

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/reyjfb/new%20rey/toro2793.jpg)

 :lol: every stations must have this poster  :heart:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 23, 2007, 05:59:01 PM
^That poster is at Shibuya station, I'm sure there are others around that station
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: mini*wheat on July 23, 2007, 06:05:15 PM
^That poster is at Shibuya station, I'm sure there are others around that station

Others without a giant Takahashi face?
Not that I hate her, but geez. Where's my giant Sayumi poster?
Or giant JunJun poster for that matter.  :heart:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 23, 2007, 06:33:10 PM
^That poster is at Shibuya station, I'm sure there are others around that station

Others without a giant Takahashi face?
Not that I hate her, but geez. Where's my giant Sayumi poster?
Or giant JunJun poster for that matter.  :heart:
There are posters of every girl at Shibuya and Shinjuku. I'm just waiting for my friends to send me the rest of the pics to post them all
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Angelus on July 23, 2007, 07:54:12 PM
Can't wait for the Aika poster. :D
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 24, 2007, 01:42:08 AM
Speaking of promotion.....

From the latest BLT magazine

(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/5274/3130fi2.th.jpg) (http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3130fi2.jpg)(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2186/3131su4.th.jpg) (http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3131su4.jpg)

(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1183/3132xa0.th.jpg) (http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3132xa0.jpg)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: StreakInTheSky on July 24, 2007, 02:25:23 AM
^ I really like that group pic. Unlike my initial reaction I'm actually liking some of their outfits, specifically 6th gen's and Koha's. The rest of them have horrible prints. Not saying the girls themselves don't look great, as they do. Love the legs and heels. Hot!

And it looks like Ecomoni has joined in the mission to save the pandas!!!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on July 24, 2007, 02:28:36 AM
I love the pictures! Thank you again reyfer! and looking forward to seeing how shibuya and shinjuku look musume-fied...hehe

Onna ni Sachi Are, seems like an interesting package as a whole huh, I'm looking forward for what else might be coming!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jompuan on July 24, 2007, 02:52:00 AM
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2521/ere3wj1.jpg)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 24, 2007, 03:04:09 AM
I really don't get why some people don't like this dresses. Every girl and woman I have shown the pics to (almost 20 people between 13 years old to my mom at 57) said they look great. As a matter of fact, two cousins and three aunts, plus seven neighbors, are using the pics (printed some for them) to have clothes made for them.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 24, 2007, 03:15:39 AM
^Well you really can't count on internet netizens to form an adequate opinion on fashion.  Seeing as they're mostly here for the music, performances, and other forms of media that are available.

Like a dude saying a dress looks ugly, wtf does he know? Does he design clothes? Wears them? Is gay? And then one can say on the girls side, is that they have their own fashion sense, and those dresses don't suit themselves.

Also that the girls have appeared in more attractive/trendier outfits.

Hmm...or it could be that all of us on here are just fans/techies/nerds/pervs/gamers/etc, and we don't know shit about fashion lol
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: LovelyMermaid on July 24, 2007, 03:47:17 AM
...becides the fact that it's simply a matter of personal opinion o.o;; Not everyone has the same tastes~ I myself, find that Ai's in particular is a *mess* The print is very old lady like, the ribbion/belt is not placed flatteringly and the entire structure of the dress~ is just unappealing to me. But that's my taste~ Eri and Koharu's outfits are my favorites :3

It's not a matter of who or their fashion sense, it's just their taste, you know? o.o;

Anywhoo, I'm excited to see how this sells :3
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: StreakInTheSky on July 24, 2007, 03:51:50 AM
^Well you really can't count on internet netizens to form an adequate opinion on fashion.  Seeing as they're mostly here for the music, performances, and other forms of media that are available.

Like a dude saying a dress looks ugly, wtf does he know? Does he design clothes? Wears them? Is gay? And then one can say on the girls side, is that they have their own fashion sense, and those dresses don't suit themselves.

Also that the girls have appeared in more attractive/trendier outfits.

Hmm...or it could be that all of us on here are just fans/techies/nerds/pervs/gamers/etc, and we don't know shit about fashion lol

I'm always commenting on their fashion... and no I'm not gay... Why can't a straight guy be nerdy and have a sense of fashion or know something about women's fashion? But I guess it isn't common.

The main issue for me are the prints and not really the design as a whole, people have their own tastes, so opinions will vary. I did say some of their dresses look nice, so I'm not saying I hate them all.

^ my taste's on their dresses seem to be similar to LovelyMermaid :lol: (though I also like Sayu's and Reina's >_>)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 24, 2007, 04:41:40 AM
^lol I wasn't dissing anyone (generalizing though, exaggeratedly, didn't call anyone gay or nerdy or whatever), I was just informing reyfer that you can't expect people on an internet discussion board such as this to always give positive feedbacks on dresses as well as an articulated opinion on such.

Sure you can say 'the girls look pretty damn cute in them', and 'I like the dresses.'  <--My opinions on the dresses. But when someone else doesn't have a favorable opinion on them, you really can't sway them to think otherwise, nor can you gonna get a satisfying answer as to why they don't like them.  So its fruitless to question others opinions on it.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 24, 2007, 04:45:46 AM
I know all that, and that's why I asked, because if you check back on this same thread, some people put down others because those others like the dresses. That is why I asked.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: nekochan on July 24, 2007, 12:32:19 PM
I really don't get why some people don't like this dresses. Every girl and woman I have shown the pics to (almost 20 people between 13 years old to my mom at 57) said they look great. As a matter of fact, two cousins and three aunts, plus seven neighbors, are using the pics (printed some for them) to have clothes made for them.

i dont think the dresses are ugly...
i think they look great in individual shots
but put together in group shots... i'm overwhelmed with the range of colours and patterns
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 24, 2007, 03:37:18 PM
Shinjuku station

(http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/4442/1185201477275sq7.th.jpg) (http://img240.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1185201477275sq7.jpg)

Still waiting for the rest
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Reanimation on July 24, 2007, 03:43:02 PM
(http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/e0p3g-1-c871.jpg) (http://s2.supload.com/free/e0p3g-1-c871.jpg/view/)(http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/koharu-shibuya.jpg) (http://s2.supload.com/free/koharu-shibuya.jpg/view/)
(http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/7-20070724112317.jpg) (http://s2.supload.com/free/7-20070724112317.jpg/view/)(http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/8-20070724112317.jpg) (http://s2.supload.com/free/8-20070724112317.jpg/view/)
(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8495/fj3fd14e3exj4.jpg)(http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3919/fj3fd24e3eiz2.jpg)(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7340/fj3fd34e3ejm6.jpg)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 24, 2007, 03:59:47 PM
This is the message on Aichan's poster

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/reyjfb/new%20rey/3162.jpg)

And this is the message on Koharu's poster

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/reyjfb/new%20rey/3161.jpg)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: shurastriker on July 24, 2007, 04:09:51 PM
lol, there you go, the faces of the two favorites of tsunku covering the walls... all the station? anyway, i don´t like they´re using close-up for the posters but it looks good XD

btw the dresses... they look like a new asian fashion wave? XD but they look good for the picture... to use everyday i don´t know.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: winner on July 24, 2007, 06:16:40 PM
I liked Koharu's dress cos it helps show her height and legs (guys are simple). Actually, it reminds me of kunoichi clothing.... :P
And Sayu's dress for the simple pattern and the really nice blue~ :heart:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 24, 2007, 06:19:36 PM
I don't know about the rest of you, but on this single, I really like Onna ni sachi are, but I LOVE Please! Jiyuu no Tobira. I have that song on repeat since this morning  :D :D :D. Can't wait for my CD to arrive, so I can look at the booklet.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: JFC on July 24, 2007, 06:35:59 PM
/me sees the pics of posters from Shinjuku

:o


Goddayum I want those.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 24, 2007, 06:51:18 PM
According to JBOOK http://www.jbook.co.jp/p/p.aspx/bun_realrank_11/ Onna ni Sachi Are's sales are REALLY good. They list the Limited Ed. A (DVD) as #2 and the Regular Ed as #3, with the Limited Ed. B (booklet) as #7. This site bases its rankings on the data from the POS of 200 stores, checked every 10 minutes and updated every 24 hours.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on July 24, 2007, 06:55:02 PM
^oh wow! Sounds like this could be good!!! :otomerika:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Reanimation on July 24, 2007, 06:58:05 PM
for me its the first time ive seen momusu's single sold out at amazon jp. both limited editions.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 24, 2007, 07:21:23 PM
My sister has a very valid point here. JBOOK list discriminates between the different editions because that's the POS data, but Oricon takes into account the sales as a whole. So if we combine the sales from the three editions....  :w00t:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Brat-san on July 24, 2007, 07:43:32 PM
Rank 2+3 should be able to outrank numbah one quite easily. o:  Add 7, and thats rape. XD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Kuja on July 24, 2007, 07:50:05 PM
I feel some kind of need to take back everything I've said about Onna ni sachi are before, 'cause now I absolutely love that song. I've listened to it all the time and everywhere lately. Please! Jiyuu no Tobira is grate also. I'm happy that the single is making well!
About those new pics, I personally think those are wonderfull. Ai's new hair looks better and better to me all the time.

What do those messages on Ai's and Koha's posters say?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tiny on July 24, 2007, 07:54:48 PM
Otsuka Ai also has 2 editions: at rank 1 and 5. It's hard to say if Momusu's 2, 3, and 7 is better than 1 and 5.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jafeijai on July 24, 2007, 07:55:22 PM
Now that the single's out (at least I believe so, given the time difference), is it possible to get accurate SJIS lyrics (romanization and translation wouldn't hurt either =P)? There were lyrics in the Translation thread, but there was a chance of those being slightly incorrect, so I'm wondering if someone who has access to these lyrics would be willing to post them up here. Thanks in advance =)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: linlin on July 24, 2007, 08:10:00 PM
what does Ai and koharu's message say?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on July 24, 2007, 08:48:12 PM
Otsuka Ai also has 2 editions: at rank 1 and 5. It's hard to say if Momusu's 2, 3, and 7 is better than 1 and 5.

damn, I'm bad at math ......

so ...... is the ranking out yet ??
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Pinkosa on July 24, 2007, 08:52:16 PM
Otsuka Ai also has 2 editions: at rank 1 and 5. It's hard to say if Momusu's 2, 3, and 7 is better than 1 and 5.

damn, I'm bad at math ......

so ...... is the ranking out yet ??

Nope, is not out yet. But I think with all the promotion, they will sell nice :D
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on July 24, 2007, 10:15:45 PM
This is the message on Aichan's poster

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/reyjfb/new%20rey/3162.jpg)

Without using a dictionary I can get the base for what this says out:
Quote
From the 2001 Morning Musume Love Audition 21,
4 chosen. At the time she was 14.
From those times when she was small she loved songs.
This young girl is now, Morning Musume's 6th leader.
Among the members, she's now the oldest.

Sounds like they are trying to write legacies with the posters... its kinda cool, maybe at the same time trying to appeal to the people who might recognize her but have no idea how much she's grown.

Sounds like the ranking is going good so far! Go Musume!!!
I really like it as well, I had it on repeat for awhile as I wait for my copy!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Yuna on July 25, 2007, 12:52:07 AM
I feel some kind of need to take back everything I've said about Onna ni sachi are before, 'cause now I absolutely love that song. I've listened to it all the time and everywhere lately. Please! Jiyuu no Tobira is grate also. I'm happy that the single is making well!

I gota say the samething has happened to me. At first  I didn't like the song much but everyday I listen to it I like it more!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tiny on July 25, 2007, 04:06:44 AM
For people who want to buy (one of) the limited editions: at the moment I post this YesAsia still has stock and Amazon.co.jp has stock again.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on July 25, 2007, 04:37:03 AM
just ordered XD

thanks
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: kurotsuki on July 25, 2007, 04:55:33 AM
Someone requested for lyircs. :D

I did not romanize or translate these lyrics, but I did the encoding myself.
Credit for the lyrics goes to here---> http://www.hello-online.org/index.php?act=tracker&CODE=details&torrent=8632

Romaji

Takahashi Niigaki Kamei Michishige  
Tanaka Kusumi Mitsui Junjun Linlin

yuuhi ni tasogare
kodoku ni niau wa
anata no kuchiguse
mada mimi ni no koru
namida wa misenai
dare ni mo misenai
tsuyogari bakari no watashi

[Jun/Lin] yurushite yaru nante
[Kam/Mic/Tan] baka ne baka ne baka ne
[Ku/Mit] doushite ano ko ni
[Tak/Ni] Torarechau no baka ne
[Jun/Lin] yappa namida ne

[Tak/Ni] aa itsuka wa shiawase ga kuru wa
deau tame no junbi suru kikan
[Tak/Mic] aa doko ka de matte te kudasai
[Jun/Lin] onna ni sachi are
asahi yo nobore

tokai ni akogare
shanimuni kurashita
futoshita nukumori
anata no yasashisa
tanoshii mainichi
tokai mo naretashi
shiawase ni tsusumareteta

[Jun/Lin] nanni mo kizukazu
[Kam/Mic/Tan] baka ne baka ne baka ne
[Ku/Mit] ano ko to itsukara
[Tak/Ni] nakayoshi na no anata
[Jun/Lin] yappa namida ne

[Kam/Tan] aa itsuka wa shiawase ga kuru wa
sou ja nakerya fukouhei sugiru
[Kam/Mic] aa soko made watashi ga yuku kara
[Jun/Lin] onna ni sachi are
asahi yo nobore

aa itsuka wa shiawase ga kuru wa
deau tame no junbi suru kikan
aa doko ka de matte te kudasai
onna ni sachi are
asahi yo nobore

[Ni/Kam] aa itsuka wa shiawase ga kuru wa
sou ja nakerya fukouhei sugiru
[Kam/Mic] aa soko made watashi ga yuku kara
[Jun/Lin] onna ni sachi are
[Ku/Mit] asahi yo nobore


Translation

Dusk in the evening sun, which loneliness matches
Your way of talking still remains in my ears.
Not showing tears, not showing anyone.
It is only my bluff.

How to permit
Right, idiot? Right, idiot? Right, idiot?
Why is it taken from the child?
Right, idiot? Don’t you think in spite of tears?

Ah, preparation is needed to
Encounter happiness in time.
Ah, please wait somewhere.
Best happiness to women, ascend to the morning sun.

Desperate living and yearning in the city.
Your kindliness in impulsively warm.
Everyday,  pleasantness.
The city was also accustomed.
Bundled in happiness.

Not becoming aware in what
Right, idiot? Right, idiot? Right, idiot?
That child’s question from?
Don’t you think that, in spite of tears?

Ah, in time there will be happiness.
So if there isn’t, unfairness passes.
Ah, because I go there.
Best happiness to women, ascend to the morning sun.

Ah, preparation is needed to
Encounter happiness in time.
Ah, please wait somewhere.
Best happiness to women, ascend to the morning sun.

Ah, in time there will be happiness.
So if there isn’t, unfairness passes.
Ah, because I go there.
Best happiness to women, ascend to the morning sun.


Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Pinkosa on July 25, 2007, 05:15:53 AM
^Wow, thank you so much  ^-^
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tiny on July 25, 2007, 08:16:14 AM
Early reports say Momusu got daily number 1!

The list from 2channel

デイリー更新
1 モーニング娘。
2 大塚愛
3 吉井和哉
4 RIP SLYME
5 浜崎あゆみ
6 ORANGE RANGE
7 ポルノグラフィティ
8 COLOR
9 SEAMO
10 JONGRI
11 ICHIKO
12 くるり
13 小神あきら&白石みのる
14 ERIKA
15 GReeeeN
16 キリト
17 上木彩矢
18 倖田來未
19 虹原いんく、他
20 Acid Black Cherry

Source seems to be SoftBank mobile site.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on July 25, 2007, 08:27:49 AM
Woo-hoo XD !!!!!!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 25, 2007, 08:35:58 AM
fukken win, i expected as much.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on July 25, 2007, 08:39:47 AM
Woo hoo!
Alright Musume! Let's hope that keeps up!
Musume stay strong with force!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 25, 2007, 08:44:31 AM
^FULL FORCE :D
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on July 25, 2007, 09:00:18 AM
woo~!!! Really hope that keeps up! :w00t: :w00t: :love: :love: :otomerika: :otomerika: :pimp: O0 :inlove: 8) :yep: :heart:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tiny on July 25, 2007, 10:10:10 AM
The top 3 with sales indication numbers as found on 2ch. (actual sales usually are that number x 1.76)

1 12,497 Morning Musume
2 10,628 Otsuka Ai
3 4,388 RIP SLYME

Waiting for an update of the official Oricon site...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on July 25, 2007, 10:17:24 AM
almost 2000 more than Otsuka Ai, OMFG !!!

To whoever said MM is dying : Ha-ha !! in your Fxxkin Face !!!


EDIT : Total sales (according to Oricon) : that's right,  12,497 !!

Congrats XD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 25, 2007, 10:36:45 AM
THEY DID IT AGAIN!!!!!!

Sorry for this, but.... I have to  :shakeit: in your face for those people that keep saying MM is over.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Dj-B13 on July 25, 2007, 10:47:54 AM
Hell yeah~!!!

MM will live strong everyday~!!! keep it going MoMusu  :hee:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on July 25, 2007, 10:50:02 AM
yes confirmation!

I feel so happy I added 1 to that sale number  :wub:

MM 4EVA~

(for those that dislike that type of writing, Morning Musume forever)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: linlin on July 25, 2007, 10:58:35 AM
the girls can get no.1 when the Johnnies boys arent around :lol:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 25, 2007, 11:08:58 AM
^So? Does it really hurt that much to admit that MM still sells?

Anyway, they keep adding to their record  :otomerika:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Hakai on July 25, 2007, 11:16:24 AM
Yay for Momusu!  :otomerika:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: BakHamNoi on July 25, 2007, 11:21:20 AM
the girls can get no.1 when the Johnnies boys arent around :lol:

quote for the true and Yay for Momusu
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Matyeu on July 25, 2007, 01:22:54 PM
 :w00t: OH yeah! That is great!

They totally deserve their first place! I mean this single is awesome! It's catchy, the pandas give it a new fresh look, the girls are gorgeous, what could we ask more?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: linlin on July 25, 2007, 01:56:04 PM
^So? Does it really hurt that much to admit that MM still sells?

Dont get me wrong. I'm happy for the girls and I know they sell.
Just that Egao Yes Nude and Kanashimi Twilight did pretty well debuting too.. but they didnt get no.1 because it was the week the Johnnies put out new singles too.. It was KinKi Kids and Arashi, if I remember correctly.
They hardly loose to other female singer/idols, do they?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: misugi on July 25, 2007, 02:23:12 PM
From last year on, I can see that MM is on the rise again.  It's just the matter of time before they get back to 100,000 a single and maybe 1,000,000 one day.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Brat-san on July 25, 2007, 04:11:01 PM
I'm happy for the #1, hoping that the sales improve over the week...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ggliff on July 25, 2007, 04:37:41 PM
#1, yesssssssss :D

I am so pleased, after all the changes lately its so good to see them out on top again.

Go MM, Go Ai-chan and Gaki-san leadership!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Pinkosa on July 25, 2007, 04:38:42 PM
MOMUSU PWNED AI-CHAN! I still  :heart: You, Ai~
YAY GO MOMUSU  :inlove: It's really awesome! They're back~
Title: Wota for you, Japan for us.
Post by: Nouciel on July 25, 2007, 05:37:51 PM
YESSS! MM! :heart: Anime, you can gtfo.

Now all the girls have experienced being @ #1 :)

EDIT: found this :lol:
(http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/7376/735100ri5.th.jpg) (http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=735100ri5.jpg)
Title: Re: Wota for you, Japan for us.
Post by: winner on July 25, 2007, 06:10:29 PM

EDIT: found this :lol:
(http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/7376/735100ri5.th.jpg) (http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=735100ri5.jpg)

^That's like 0.3% of the sales right there!

Go MM go!!!!  :inlove:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Angelus on July 25, 2007, 06:11:23 PM
Congratulations, Morning Musume!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ggliff on July 25, 2007, 06:11:23 PM
^ lol, s/he seems to like Berryz too
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/ggliff/th_1355.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/ggliff/1355.jpg)

I'm in such a good mood since hearing this news...YAY AGAIN
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Pinkosa on July 25, 2007, 06:19:13 PM
^ lol, s/he seems to like Berryz too
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/ggliff/th_1355.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/ggliff/1355.jpg)


Also rich  :lol:
I can't wait to see the first week sales~

EDIT: Oh no, it's fake. Just check well and the pile of Berryz and Momusu is the same, just duplicated. In the side is still saying Berryz Koubou XDDD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: genericpaperdoll on July 25, 2007, 06:33:28 PM
Hells yeah!! Kick in the face to all the people who said MM is over  :lol:

Congrats, girls :love:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 25, 2007, 06:36:14 PM
Yeah that pic is faked.

@linlin, no one in japan can beat a johnny's new release, its not just MM's problem so lets not even go there, they're on the decline as well.  MM's rising again.

I hope it keeps up :D
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Pinkosa on July 25, 2007, 07:15:15 PM
@linlin, no one in japan can beat a johnny's new release, its not just MM's problem so lets not even go there, they're on the decline as well.  MM's rising again.

Being a H!P & JE fan, i must say you're right. Just check the past Top 100 singles of the year and almost all of them were Johnny's, especially in the Top 10. We all know that H!P doesn't sell very nice in music but yes in merchandise, photobooks and etc. So yeah, we are glad Momusu is selling very nice on their first day! :D

(lol is really hard to be a H!P & JE fan, especially in moments like this~)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 25, 2007, 07:24:15 PM
^Yeah, I know what you mean.  I'm also a JE fan. :D Glad to see some people can look at both sides and maintain a good outlook.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Parhelion69 on July 25, 2007, 07:30:51 PM
OMG this is so great!  :w00t:

MM has staying power, we have been shown that for the last couple years, and it's fun pwning haters, specially this year  XD

And that 12000 number is an index number, so to get the actual sales you have to multiply for 1.75, which is close to 22000 sales for the first day, it's less than KT first day sales, but remember that KT dropped dramatically (it had most of its sales the first days cause of the handshake event, and it was yossie's last single). I'm almost positive that onna ni sachi are will have steady sales, I'm not sure if it'll surpass KT's sales, but I damn hope so.

I also hope MM has #1 spot for the week, but that may be a bit harder, since Ai Otsuka has more casual fans. But something that could help MM is that Otsuka's Peach, sucks ass  :lol: (and I mean it, I can't seem to like it, not one bit...)

Congratz, my beloved MM and ganbate ne.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: yumestarlet on July 25, 2007, 07:58:25 PM
That's so awesome! Go MM~!
It really is great to see them at #1 after everything that's happened this year. Here's hoping this keeps up! :heart:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Pinkosa on July 25, 2007, 08:11:55 PM
OMG this is so great!  :w00t:

MM has staying power, we have been shown that for the last couple years, and it's fun pwning haters, specially this year  XD

And that 12000 number is an index number, so to get the actual sales you have to multiply for 1.75, which is close to 22000 sales for the first day, it's less than KT first day sales, but remember that KT dropped dramatically (it had most of its sales the first days cause of the handshake event, and it was yossie's last single). I'm almost positive that onna ni sachi are will have steady sales, I'm not sure if it'll surpass KT's sales, but I damn hope so.

I also hope MM has #1 spot for the week, but that may be a bit harder, since Ai Otsuka has more casual fans. But something that could help MM is that Otsuka's Peach, sucks ass  :lol: (and I mean it, I can't seem to like it, not one bit...)

Congratz, my beloved MM and ganbate ne.

That's not actually easy. Let me say PEACH is a drama song and usually, drama themes seems to sell pretty well. And it's harder because Hana Kimi is a very popular drama. But if MM has luck, they'll stay in TOP 10 for a long time~ :DDDD  :)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Koolmon93 on July 25, 2007, 11:27:28 PM
8th Gen's first #1 with the debut of the Pandas. Not surprising. Tomorrow on Utaban, Friday on MUSIC JAPAN, on Satuday.. THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!! MUAHAHA! :hiakhiakhiak: :wahaha:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jafeijai on July 25, 2007, 11:28:40 PM
THERE'S GONNA BE AN UTABAN FOR THIS?!?! [camps for upload from some kind being] =D
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Koolmon93 on July 25, 2007, 11:33:14 PM
I think it's just gonna be a perf.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on July 26, 2007, 12:35:44 AM
You can always hope for more!
I mean I was worried it was gonna be like that for Kanashimi Twilight and in the end they did the funny drum thing which got Yossie up with energy!

I got my copy today!! Beautiful! I didn't open the CD though, couldn't do it ^^.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: BigDnm01 on July 26, 2007, 01:01:06 AM
will there be a Music Station appearance?

anyway, great for MoMusu, keep this up.  Love the song.  love the girls.  still miss Yossi and Mikitty, though...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ferrar1 on July 26, 2007, 01:53:14 AM
It will be a talk + performance on Utaban if WHG is correct. And a hilarious 1 again if WHG is correct.

http://www.machineworks.co.uk/whg/2007/07/post_4467.html
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: dokidokisuru on July 26, 2007, 02:34:03 AM
Romanized the "Please! jiyuu no tobira" lyrics.

Quote
Please Be Freedom
motto atsuku nareru
Oh Please Be Freedom
kitto tsutawaru kono My Soul

suggoi yume ga fukuramu
gakusei jidai
ano ko mo hora sono ko mo
mirai ni kakeru

tomo e no ADOBAISU wa
dekiru keredo
jibun no koto to nareba
naze ka muzukashii

soshite watashi
dou sureba ii no deshou?
watashi
kodawari toka wo sutete
kawaritai!

jiyuu no tobira wo
shitteru no ni
sukoshi dake
chuucho shiteru

konya koso minna ni makenai yo na
suteki na egao ni naru yo

Please Be Freedom
motto atsuku nareru
Oh Please Be Freedom
kitto tsutawaru kono My Soul

suppai nigai dekigoto
keiken shita
anmai amai hatsukoi
mune ni shimatta

sunnari umaku yuku hou ga
sukunai kedo
shippai ga mata watashi no
kate ni naru wa

ima no watashi
ii kao ja nai desu ka?
watashi
jishin ga waite iru no
susume sou!

jiyuu no tobira ga
matteru kara
yukkuri to
shinkokyuu shite

kondo koso GINESU ni noru kurai no
suteki na yume wo egaku yo

jiyuu no tobira ga
matteru kara
yukkuri to
shinkokyuu shite

kondo koso GINESU ni noru kurai no
suteki na yume wo egaku yo

Please Be Freedom
motto atsuku nareru
Oh Please Be Freedom
kitto tsutawaru kono

Oh Please Be Freedom
motto atsuku nareru
Oh Please Be Freedom
kitto tsutawaru kono My Soul

Maybe someone who's better at picking out voices can color-code them for us?  =x
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Sukoshi on July 26, 2007, 05:06:59 AM
YES!  Number 1  :w00t:  I'm so happy for them  :nya:

It will be a talk + performance on Utaban if WHG is correct. And a hilarious 1 again if WHG is correct.

http://www.machineworks.co.uk/whg/2007/07/post_4467.html

I so hope that's true  :wriggly:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: BakHamNoi on July 26, 2007, 05:15:51 AM
lol there's a big gap between the 1st Morning Musume (12k) and the 3th Rip Slime (4k)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Saburo on July 26, 2007, 07:08:42 AM
Didn't think much of this song until I saw the dance performance.  Damn, Musume and Company can still BOOGIE!  And the panda gals weren't too bad either.

Dig the barefeet look too.  Hail Aichan!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: nox_xie on July 26, 2007, 08:40:20 AM
:w00t: OH yeah! That is great!

They totally deserve their first place! I mean this single is awesome! It's catchy, the pandas give it a new fresh look, the girls are gorgeous, what could we ask more?

hey.. what's with the panda girl..  :angry:
great that momusu new song really top the chart.. haha.. ai-chan leadership  :yep:


will there be a Music Station appearance?

anyway, great for MoMusu, keep this up.  Love the song.  love the girls.  still miss Yossi and Mikitty, though...

ya.. me too waiting for their appearance in music station.. only can watch it thru astro animax.. that's a bit late from the current show cause they sub it.. lew..

at first i also laught about their costume.. nah.. it's not about appearance.. it more toward their song.. yup it catchy and i hear it daily.. when i walk to my office..  :roll:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tiny on July 26, 2007, 08:49:52 AM
Daily ranking update:

1. Otsuka Ai (10206)
2. Morning Musume (5139)
3. RIP SLYME (4464)

edit: (conditional) confirmed

Provisional Cumulative weekly using sales index numbers:
      Otsuka Ai   Morning Musume   RIP SLYME  Hamasaki Ayumi  ORANGE RANGE  Porno Graffitti
mon           -                -           -            3122          2099             2003
tue       10628            12497        4388               -             -                -
wed       10206             5139        4464               -             -                -
thu   
fri
sat
sun
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
total     20834            17636        8852            3122          2099             2003
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: misugi on July 26, 2007, 12:39:19 PM
Ai Otsuka kept her pace as MM dropped down the hill. :(
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tiny on July 26, 2007, 01:07:44 PM
"Onna ni Sachi Are" will be aired on the NHK World TV program J-MELO (I assume the PV).

http://www.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/j-melo_e.html

Quote
J-MELO is NHK´s first ever Japanese music show recorded entirely in English for audiences around the world.
J-MELO features the latest, cutting edge developments in Japanese music, selections of hit songs, and diverse material from a wide-range of different genres including pop, rock, jazz and classical.
The program´s name, J-MELO, is a combination of "J" for Japan and "MELO", an abbreviation of both "melody" and "mellow".

Quote
#117/ Summer Favorites
(World 7/27 etc. Domestic 7/26)
1."Hula Girl" / Jake Shimabukuro
2."Dream Lover" / INFINITY 16 welcomez Shonan No Kaze, MINMI, and MOOMIN
3."Namida Ga Tada Koborerudake" (Tears Just Overflow) / Seiko Matsuda
4."Onna Ni Sachi Are"(Women, Be Happy!) / Morning Musume
5."Ashita Hareru Kana" (I Wonder if the Weather Will be Fine Tomorrow) / Keisuke Kuwata
6."Hoshi No Tabibito" (Star Voyager) / Yuzo Kayama

edit: there was also a comment from Morning Musume on J-MELO with English subtitles! The torrent is up at Hello!Online: http://www.hello-online.org/index.php?act=tracker&CODE=details&torrent=8667 (thanks to H!O user sasshi)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on July 26, 2007, 05:07:47 PM
well we know that not all stores can submit their sales everyday so it's not entirely accurant of todays sales.

Still, it could be anyone's game, there's gonna a fight for the top spot. C'MON MORNING MUSUME!!!

and thanks for the NHK info ^_^
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 26, 2007, 06:47:06 PM
I still think there's a chance for #1 weekly, but I'd be happy with a #2 weekly :D
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Hakai on July 26, 2007, 07:49:07 PM
I still think there's a chance for #1 weekly, but I'd be happy with a #2 weekly :D

The little yogurt speaks the truth  :grin:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 26, 2007, 08:22:41 PM
I still think there's a chance for #1 weekly, but I'd be happy with a #2 weekly :D

The little yogurt speaks the truth  :grin:

I still don't know what that means ;__; Yogurt?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 26, 2007, 10:32:06 PM
I liked their Utaban performance of the song, but I did not like the talk. What disappointed me is not the girls (they have the best attitude and really want to participate), but the hosts then focus the whole show on the OG. You can really see the expressions on some of the girls' faces, they were not happy. Man, on the previous show they had them playing a dumb drum game, and on this they have them just as "sidekicks". I find myself wishing they won't go to Utaban anymore.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Liv on July 26, 2007, 10:55:16 PM
Just saw the Utaban episode, and I agree with reyfer's comment. The girls were not pleased with being shunted aside.

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Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: mode107 on July 26, 2007, 11:05:03 PM
That's sad for me to read. I love Nakai and Ishibashi, but someone needs to tell them to get with the program and all. Hopefully Morning Musume will have better appearances on that show in the future.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on July 26, 2007, 11:08:53 PM
Indeed they were shunted after the initial jokes and questioning of the chinese members... no fun stuff... no major jokes... it was just ahhh who's that over there... its the ones we like talking to..... and then that was it.... >< I would be offended to...especially since they mostly stood there so that iida could say things to them... like whats up with that!

Morning Musume need to shine! by the dieties of goodness and light I do hope they are allowed to be more expressive on a show soon.

At least Onna ni Sachi Are was ok... they seemed to sing it lower than normal eh?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jafeijai on July 26, 2007, 11:17:17 PM
Just saw the Utaban episode, and I agree with reyfer's comment. The girls were not pleased with being shunted aside.

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It seems to me that the 6th gen girls were REALLY bored..at least from the screencaps. o.O Takahashi and Risa seem fine though. At least they're somewhat responding, or so I think..
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Brat-san on July 26, 2007, 11:24:16 PM
That is sad considering it's Ai and Risa's first single as Leader and Sub Leader. I wanted to see them get a lot of attention as what were considered the youngest at a point and become leaders to those around them so suddenly. :/
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on July 26, 2007, 11:44:35 PM
There are ok parts indeed, but I do wish they did more with Morning Musume ><
I suppose it was a bit to dream that I suppose... I wonder what they'd do if they couldn't have gotten the anniversary group to show up too... I mean they could have had them separately, but take it stride, at least they got to appear...

I did like how they were flowing before the anniversary group showed up... and if you count it seperately the OG part of the anniversary group was fun in its own right, but thinking that it was for Onna ni Sachi Are... I wanted more of them... folly of time I guess. To have to compress it all into one ball of stuff instead of letting them be their own entities.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 26, 2007, 11:46:30 PM
I mean it, at least Taka should try to interact with them, some of them may surprise him, but if they're not given a chance, what can they do? I mean, this show could have been great from a comedic point of view: two new, foreign members plus the girl that usually was seen as "spaced out" as leader.... I can imagine thousands of comedic situations there.... but they bring the OG ( don't get me wrong, I love Maki and Kaori and Nacchi) and forget about the current group. Just take a look at Aichan's face during the little question game, it's almost like "why are we here?"

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Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on July 26, 2007, 11:53:23 PM
Ara??... Aa! I just realized that the thing I downloaded was literally only the talk part I was wondering what that board was for with the numbers... I missed something good.... time to get the whole thing! even though I have no idea who the other guests are... I need to give the whole thing a chance... thanx for the little hint at my missing pieces reyfer...

To see more Musume in Onna ni Sachi Are outfits!
Poor Ai...T_T seems kinda sad...

At least Chun and Lin are smiling right? try to find good parts
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: linlin on July 27, 2007, 12:46:56 AM
I find myself wishing they won't go to Utaban anymore.

same here..
I'm sure there are lots of funny stories to talk and joke about AiT being leader but they just ignore it.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: JFC on July 27, 2007, 12:50:54 AM
I mean it, at least Taka should try to interact with them, some of them may surprise him, but if they're not given a chance, what can they do?
QFT! Taka-san and Nakai are the hosts of the show, it's their job to interact with their guests. If they're not trying and not giving the new lineup a chance, well OF COURSE they're going to think they're dull compared to the OGs.  See, with the OGs, they gave them a chance to come out of their shells, so to speak. Now they need to do so with the current lineup.  :yep:

On a related note, I LOVE the CGI effects that the Utaban production guys put in the show. In this ep, the killer was when Taka/Nakai opened the door and the wavy "IRRASHAIMASE~! :heart:" came out! Then they shut the door, only to have Aichan open it again and again go "IRRASHAIMASE! :heart:" :lol:

EDIT: Nakai...Nakai...Nakai...what would Yuko think if she new you were checkin' out Junjun's bumbum?
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Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 27, 2007, 01:17:59 AM
^lmao, Nakai checkin out JunJun~
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jimmy on July 27, 2007, 01:43:21 AM
I find myself wishing they won't go to Utaban anymore.

same here..
I'm sure there are lots of funny stories to talk and joke about AiT being leader but they just ignore it.


In fairness though, they've given Takahashi a lot of chances to be funny or interesting over the years (especially in the beginning) but she blows it every single time. I mean, I like her and think she's probably the prettiest girl that's been in MM, but she doesn't have the charsima needed for the talk shows.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 27, 2007, 02:52:45 AM
In fairness though, they've given Takahashi a lot of chances to be funny or interesting over the years (especially in the beginning) but she blows it every single time. I mean, I like her and think she's probably the prettiest girl that's been in MM, but she doesn't have the charsima needed for the talk shows.
And aren't there other members? And people cannot change? I'm sorry, I know what you mean, but they gave up last year and have not tried since. If they don't try, they will not know if something changed. And also they don't have to focus on one girl, there are 9 to choose from, and being comedians, they should realize the potential for laughter of the two gaikokujins. Come on, think about it: Taka, Nakai, and two girls with limited language knowledge..... see? I bet you got at least two skit ideas in your mind right now.  :D
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: BakHamNoi on July 27, 2007, 05:15:06 AM
I liked their Utaban performance of the song, but I did not like the talk. What disappointed me is not the girls (they have the best attitude and really want to participate), but the hosts then focus the whole show on the OG. You can really see the expressions on some of the girls' faces, they were not happy. Man, on the previous show they had them playing a dumb drum game, and on this they have them just as "sidekicks". I find myself wishing they won't go to Utaban anymore.

totally agree with this. what a disappointment.
The show started so well with Linlin and Junjun selfpresenting themself and making some jokes but then the oldies came (i still like them) but well they are not MM anymore

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lol at Eri expression face : "Why do they come, stay at the corner wtf"
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jaasai on July 27, 2007, 06:54:24 AM
Couldn't the girls just interrupt and speak up? Screw etiquette, if you want attention, demand it. I know thats how Makoto caught my attention when she did these types of shows. I think Yaguchi got where she is now hosting several shows just by being so vocal on her own. I love Ai (so much its even creeping me out) but like that other guy said, she and the rest blew it.

Anyways, Johnson was there and you know Ishibashi wouldn't pass up on the chance to tease her. Hell, you can see how fast he went from MM to poking her. Get him in a crowded room.. throw in Yasuda, Nakazawa, or  Kaori and you know where Ishibashi is going.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Hakai on July 27, 2007, 07:43:18 AM
I´m a total OG fan but.... this was quite dissapointing. It´s ok to talk to Kaori, since she had some great news to talk about. But well, the "ne waratte" thing has been seen like ten thousand times on Utaban. Why waste time on remembering the same things as always instead of using that time talking with the current Momusu?

I felt pretty sad about them just looking to their faces.  :(

Damn Ishibashi and Nakai  :banghead:

Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: winner on July 27, 2007, 08:36:11 AM
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Maybe Nakai's just thinking "why are they wearing shoes. they didn't wear shoes in the PV~"  ;)

Sad to hear about the talk bit. :(
At least the stage guys show sincerity by welcoming the pandas with some new year decorations. I'm sure they'd be happy seeing that stuff. :yep:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tiny on July 27, 2007, 10:34:35 AM
Daily ranking update:

1. Otsuka Ai (5570)
2. RIP SLYME (2232)
3. Morning Musume (2022)

Provisional cumulative weekly ranking using available sales index numbers:
      Otsuka Ai   Morning Musume   RIP SLYME  Hamasaki Ayumi  ORANGE RANGE  Porno Graffitti
mon           -                -           -            3122          2099             2003
tue       10628            12497        4388
wed       10206             5139        4464
thu        5570             2022        2232
fri
sat
sun
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total     26404            19658       11084            3122          2099             2003
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: jimmy on July 27, 2007, 10:40:29 AM
In fairness though, they've given Takahashi a lot of chances to be funny or interesting over the years (especially in the beginning) but she blows it every single time. I mean, I like her and think she's probably the prettiest girl that's been in MM, but she doesn't have the charsima needed for the talk shows.
And aren't there other members? And people cannot change? I'm sorry, I know what you mean, but they gave up last year and have not tried since. If they don't try, they will not know if something changed. And also they don't have to focus on one girl, there are 9 to choose from, and being comedians, they should realize the potential for laughter of the two gaikokujins. Come on, think about it: Taka, Nakai, and two girls with limited language knowledge..... see? I bet you got at least two skit ideas in your mind right now.  :D

I was just meaning Takahashi. As far as the other members go you're right, I don't think they've been given enough chances, especially Eri, Michishige and Niigaki (who's probably the biggest loudmouth (I mean that in a good way :lol:) in MM since Yaguchi. You don't have to try hard to make them entertaining but I think the hosts have just grown bored with MM in general and don't want to put in much effort. Shame really, because Utaban used to be where they made their best appearances.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on July 27, 2007, 10:52:53 AM
There were some moments in utaban history where they've gone good with some of the generation they have now.... sorta... my memory is a little fuzzy but remember the days when they had the gameshow thing where ishibashi and johnson and mari were having to figure out what they were writing about.... and you got things like CD stands for Casette Demotape... and how Mochi looks like abunai... and boxes and what not?... I think thats rather funny...

They just need to cut all the lines and force ishibashi and nakai to make use of the musume now. I'm sure the musume could try harder I guess... I mean to be fair they could be more silly I suppose... to try to get attention.

Its a shame MM dived a bit... maybe they'll make a recovery after the Utaban and stuff like that!... maybe?... I hope...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on July 27, 2007, 10:55:20 AM
ah looks like otsuka's taken quite a leap ahead of MM :(
We still have a chance to catch up, c'mon Momusu!!!!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Daisuki Daiiyo on July 27, 2007, 11:49:53 AM
Sure the hosts probably didn't try to talk to them much in this episode, but I mean what can you expect? Gocchin (Taka's fav btw) was there, and then Johnson with her baby news, and Burriko Nacchi. It was a bad set-up to begin with. Everytime OG's are there, they automatically take more priority over the newer girls.

lol So I dunno why everyone is blaming Taka and Nakai for not interacting. If the girls want to be heard from, then they'll do what they have to in order to get their screen time. Even if that means violating/disrespeckin' an OG (Kago punching Gooch in the crotch comes to mind. Rude, but extremely LOL.) I mean, there were plenty of times in the past where the hosts did reach out to these girls, maybe by teasing them or whatnot, in an attempt to get something funny out of them, but the girls didn't know what to do with it. Maybe after all of that trying and being funny on their part, they just gave up since it was rarely being reciprocated. So it's the girls responsibility now to make the hosts, and the public like them, and wish to interact with them. You aren't always going to be given a chance, and so you have to make one for yourself. I really just think that the current line-up doesn't want it enough.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 27, 2007, 12:39:37 PM
Sure the hosts probably didn't try to talk to them much in this episode, but I mean what can you expect? Gocchin (Taka's fav btw) was there, and then Johnson with her baby news, and Burriko Nacchi. It was a bad set-up to begin with. Everytime OG's are there, they automatically take more priority over the newer girls.

lol So I dunno why everyone is blaming Taka and Nakai for not interacting. If the girls want to be heard from, then they'll do what they have to in order to get their screen time. Even if that means violating/disrespeckin' an OG (Kago punching Gooch in the crotch comes to mind. Rude, but extremely LOL.) I mean, there were plenty of times in the past where the hosts did reach out to these girls, maybe by teasing them or whatnot, in an attempt to get something funny out of them, but the girls didn't know what to do with it. Maybe after all of that trying and being funny on their part, they just gave up since it was rarely being reciprocated. So it's the girls responsibility now to make the hosts, and the public like them, and wish to interact with them. You aren't always going to be given a chance, and so you have to make one for yourself. I really just think that the current line-up doesn't want it enough.
Fair enough. Then do this: go there, perform your song, say "please buy our cd" and leave. You did your publicity thing, and you spare the hosts and the public an embarrassing moment. I still don't see the point of having them around if Taka and Nakai are going to talk about someone else.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Daisuki Daiiyo on July 27, 2007, 12:52:14 PM
lol they're there because they're the ones with a song to perform. UFA or some other asshat just thought it was wise to piggyback Kinentai with them. Idk why they can't just have them go on Utaban on their own when their single finally drops. It wasn't all negatives though, if it's worth anything, atleast the new girls got some guidance from Kaori.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: LovelyMermaid on July 27, 2007, 02:42:39 PM
Does anyone have a direct link to this? Im really curious to see xD;;
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chibilolli on July 27, 2007, 02:46:00 PM
I'm assuming they've downloaded it from here

http://www.hello-online.org/index.php?act=tracker&CODE=details&torrent=8672

Found this part Utaban on Veoh

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v864913Dx662s82?searchId=3787774371512601229&rank=2

But if anyone knows of someone where the whole thing is available by direct download then it would be appreciated :D
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: La Daphne on July 27, 2007, 04:06:09 PM
I kinda think the reason none of the girls know what to do when they get tossed a bone by either Taka or Nakai because they aren't used to it. Looking at older episodes, every time, even after fifth and sixth gen joined, it was still all about Kei or Johnson or sometimes Nacchi. Most of the girls in the group right now probably grew used to just sitting back and letting Taka and Nakai take their shots at the OGs...but since they don't have any OGs anymore, that doesn't work out.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: misugi on July 27, 2007, 04:22:34 PM
Present Utaban had lost some of its attraction (Games, CG, new ideas).  To me, they're just bringing back old stuff again and again, the same episode every year.  Egao Yes Nude episode was the worst and now this episode is even worse.  Ain't there anymore music talk show in Japan to boost up the competition? :-\
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: SomethingWild on July 27, 2007, 04:38:31 PM
I'm assuming they've downloaded it from here

http://www.hello-online.org/index.php?act=tracker&CODE=details&torrent=8672

Found this part Utaban on Veoh

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v864913Dx662s82?searchId=3787774371512601229&rank=2



thanks for the links. What does Ishibashi say about Fujimoto/leadership?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: herachan on July 27, 2007, 05:20:59 PM
have you guys seen the J-MELO clip of morning musume in Onna ni Sachi Are costumes?

they have mentioned HERA from the Phillippines!! i was shocked when i saw it! Eri said my name!!!

you can see the video here and also some extra details: http://herara.wordpress.com/
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: genericpaperdoll on July 27, 2007, 05:25:04 PM
I agree with everyone who said Utaban was disappointing. The pandas were cute for their intro at the beginning, but other than that, the current lineup didn't get a chance. Why did some dumbass decide to put the OGs in MM's ep instead of giving them their own when the Kinentai single was released? I felt bad seeing the current girls just sitting there useless. I don't blame the hosts but whoever decided to put them in the same ep :kickass:

It sucks that they've fallen behind Otsuka. I love Aichin, but Onna is a much better song than Peach, imo.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: aKaoNi on July 27, 2007, 05:34:29 PM
^^ Well I can actually say Onna ni Sachi has finally grown on me, hearing the radio rip the first couple times I was like, eh, but now I think I can get into it. Glad to see if anyone is beating MM it's Ai-chin, she's my fav j-soloist out there, and you are right about peach, although I think her B side Heart shoulda been the A side as it's that much better than peach.

And about the Utaban episode, although it's definitely not as good as the old MM utaban's, I didn't think it was too bad, despite the fact that the current gen didn't get much shine. I think they could've done something way better than going through old utaban clips mainly Johnson ones, but I didn't see the current lineup as depressed about it as you all are saying.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: BigDnm01 on July 27, 2007, 05:43:50 PM
I'm rooting for Onna ni Sachi Are single for the #1 weekly spot.  nothing against Otsuka Ai, she is definitely cute and a great artist, but i just don't feel peach that much.  but even so, with Peach at #1, looks like Onna will most likely get the #2 spot.  still continuing on their top 10, top 5 streak. 

about the Utaban, it's dissapointing for the current line up, for sure.  the main point is to promote the new single, but they didn't even really had the chance to do so.  it's more like a promotion for the MM 10th's 2nd single than the current MM.  and Koharu and Niigaki didn't even had a chance to talk even when they're apart to the subgroup too. someone could've planned it better.  i wanna know more about the current lineup and the new members than i do of the OG.  not that i don't like them, it just they should've had their own appearances.  I feel sorry for the girls.  they seem so bored and neglected.  i wish i could've been there to comfort them.  hopefully their appearance on other shows will make it better.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 27, 2007, 05:55:46 PM
#1 is still possible, though unlikely.

There have been artists who never got #1 daily's but got a #1 weekly...lol
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: linlin on July 27, 2007, 05:59:46 PM
What does OG stand for anyway? Old Girls?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chibilolli on July 27, 2007, 06:09:44 PM
What does OG stand for anyway? Old Girls?

I was wondering that too. Older Generation  :?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: yumestarlet on July 27, 2007, 06:17:14 PM
The Utaban episode, from the parts that I've seen, is pretty disappointing. I understand that OG has a lot of fun memories with that show, and I know that Kaori's pregnancy is big news, but I don't think they should've devoted 3 minutes of clips to old MM moments from the show. I've seen them before. I want to see the new MM line-up do those kind of funny things and not just be pushed to the side.

I don't have anything against the Maki, Nacchi, and Kaori, it's just they shouldn't have been scheduled at the same time as the current MM, because all attention was on them once they came in. It even seemed like Nacchi was trying to direct some attention to the current MM-- Risa and Koharu, at least-- when she was saying they were in the 10th anniversary group too, but the hosts seemed to pretty much brush that off.

And I honestly think the current girls were holding their own when they were given the attention. Ai's head popping through the door at the beginning made me totally burst out laughing, and the conversations they had with Junjun and Linlin were fantastic.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on July 27, 2007, 06:54:59 PM
^you could see junjun and linlin trying because they were asking about kaori's nickname 'johnson'
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 27, 2007, 08:05:47 PM
What does OG stand for anyway? Old Girls?
They use it as "Older Generations" but in Japan OG (old girl) is a term used to refer to female alumni from a university, graduate female students. For males they use OB (old boy). Last year Yuko said on a show that they use it as "Older Generations" because she doesn't like to be called old girl  :D
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 27, 2007, 08:15:26 PM
OG = Original Gangsta :D
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: lil_hamz on July 27, 2007, 08:23:23 PM
have you guys seen the J-MELO clip of morning musume in Onna ni Sachi Are costumes?

they have mentioned HERA from the Phillippines!! i was shocked when i saw it! Eri said my name!!!

you can see the video here and also some extra details: http://herara.wordpress.com/

CONGRATES!!! You must be so happy :)

Well, if the company lets them shoot a clip like this to acknowledge fans in Asia, they must really want to break into that part of the world. Yes, hold concerts in Asia, then the world  :D

I'm a little miffed about Utaban too. Either they let the current line-up talk or let Tanjo talk. Not show ancient clips and talk to 3/5 of Tanjo  :angry: I mean it is the Onna Ni Sachi Are promo slot. To think Taka(whatever) slams the current girls as having no personality. It's kinda hard to show how fun they can be just by sitting in the back row. It's not like the girls didn't try. They had the reactions, the loud voices and said things. But all that's no use without a chance.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on July 27, 2007, 08:39:13 PM
have you guys seen the J-MELO clip of morning musume in Onna ni Sachi Are costumes?

they have mentioned HERA from the Phillippines!! i was shocked when i saw it! Eri said my name!!!

you can see the video here and also some extra details: http://herara.wordpress.com/

I was gonna ask if that was someone from here!
much congratulations on getting your name said!!

Hmm I need to watch that utaban again... I thought she said Original... when yuko was mad about being called an old girl... of well, I'll go check

So Utaban was a bust... what bright sides keep things good, at least we have the adorable parts we do have, including ai's entrance "irrashaimase!"
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on July 27, 2007, 09:13:32 PM
well look on the bright side, they were on music japan today(as were akb48)
But i think that was only a performance since we've heard nothing about a chat.

With sales improving things should start to look up  :w00t:


oh and congratulations hera! Eri actualyl said your name, as in thinking of you exactly!!

I'm glad the MM girls are aiming for the world(cuz we've heard berryz say it but i can't remember MM saying it before)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 27, 2007, 09:56:07 PM
:o hera from JPH!P? awesome!  Congratz, girl :D
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Hakai on July 27, 2007, 10:01:33 PM
Pinoy powa! :otomerika:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Cookie on July 27, 2007, 10:18:20 PM
have you guys seen the J-MELO clip of morning musume in Onna ni Sachi Are costumes?

they have mentioned HERA from the Phillippines!! i was shocked when i saw it! Eri said my name!!!

you can see the video here and also some extra details: http://herara.wordpress.com/

Omgash! That is so awesome! Lucky you~
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 27, 2007, 11:06:42 PM
Pinoy powa! :otomerika:

oh yah srsly, i forget that i'm pinoy sometimes lol
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: herachan on July 28, 2007, 12:27:10 AM

So Utaban was a bust... what bright sides keep things good, at least we have the adorable parts we do have, including ai's entrance "irrashaimase!"

i really think! aichan's irasshaimase was a good entrance, it was funny! But the turn of events on UTABAN was not good, they focused on Johnson...., I even think JunJun is funny ! i did not understood any of what she said but her reactions and responses were lively!, LinLin is also good since she has the guts to make her way into the conversation while the others were speaking and she made them laugh, by saying that "demo Hosoi" somethinng..which i can interpret as "but she is thin" (im not sure).

Maybe Taka and Nakai or the people at Utaban saw the girls' potential already but they cant get off course as everything on utaban is planned. Well maybe next time they can give them a chance to speak and show that the new MM still lives!

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and also!!! thanks minna for congratulating me!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Koolmon93 on July 28, 2007, 04:44:55 AM
Pinoy powa! :otomerika:

Pinoys unite!!!!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: bot on July 28, 2007, 06:03:14 AM
i'm sorry, but imo utaban stinks. reina's reaction was perfect. go wonky!
will there be a music fighter appearance? the hosts are waaaay better.
__________

this is a really funny video. especially when they talk about takahashi as leader. sayumi has mad monomane skillz!!!
http://www.barks.jp/watch/?id=1000019269
__________

also, cross-posting from translation thread:

Onna ni Sachi Are

The setting sun at dusk fits loneliness well. Your pet phrases still linger in my ears
I won’t show my tears, not to anyone… that’s me, just pretending to be strong

I allowed this to happen….. stupid stupid stupid
Why were you stolen away by another? Stupid! It had to end in tears

Someday happiness will come
Now is the time I prepare for that meeting
Please wait for me, wherever it may be--
Let there be happiness for women
May the morning sun rise

Yearning for the city, I lived recklessly. There was unexpected warmth in your tenderness
I grew used to the city and its fun-filled days, wrapped in happiness

I didn’t notice anything…. stupid stupid stupid
You who, from who knows when, grew close to that girl… it had to end in tears

Someday happiness will come,
if not it would be far too unjust
Because I will make it all the way there,
Let there be happiness for women
May the morning sun rise

Repeat choruses

NB the title literally means Good luck to Woman
@iacus  :P thanks!
___________

and woohoo for hera!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: antipathy on July 28, 2007, 10:03:45 AM

this is a really funny video. especially when they talk about takahashi as leader. sayumi has mad monomane skillz!!!
http://www.barks.jp/watch/?id=1000019269

I can't seem to play this video. Is ther another source for this?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tiny on July 28, 2007, 10:04:55 AM
Daily ranking update (Friday):

1. Otsuka Ai (3,268)
2. RIP SLYME (1,519)
3. Morning Musume (1,424)

Provisional cumulative weekly ranking using available sales index numbers:
      Otsuka Ai   Morning Musume   RIP SLYME  Hamasaki Ayumi  ORANGE RANGE  Porno Graffitti
mon           -                -           -            3122          2099             2003
tue       10628            12497        4388
wed       10206             5139        4464
thu        5570             2022        2232
fri        3268             1424        1519
sat
sun
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
total     29672            21082       12603            3122          2099             2003
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Blu-Cherri on July 28, 2007, 10:09:45 AM
Even though they're third daily they're still well ahead of rip slyme overall.

8,000 behind otsuka? That's gonna be hard to get back - especially considering that we all know MMs sales always drop more and more each day...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tiny on July 28, 2007, 10:11:06 AM
will there be a music fighter appearance? the hosts are waaaay better.

Yes:
08/03 24:50~25:45 日本テレビ系「音楽戦士 MUSIC FIGHTER」モーニング娘。 (http://www.ntv.co.jp/mfighter/main.html)

Other TV appearance:
07/30 18:00~18:30 サンテレビ「ROQ Hit」モーニング娘。 (http://www.sun-tv.co.jp/roqhit/main.html)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: babydoll on July 28, 2007, 11:56:31 AM
Daily ranking update (Friday):

1. Otsuka Ai (3,268)
2. RIP SLYME (1,519)
3. Morning Musume (1,424)


If you mulitiply those by 1.7, it will give you the total of how many singles they sold. But anyway, go MM once again. ^_^
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ShoujoHino on July 29, 2007, 07:38:21 AM
LinLin - win.

"What does 'Johnson' mean?"
"It's Dave"(deebu)
"Debu? (fat) But she's thin!"

wtf is wrong with Taka! GO WITH LINLIN!! she's the new comedy leader (without trying)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: almond on July 29, 2007, 08:10:04 AM
Wow, this single is doing better than I expected! Go Panda Power!  :pandaaa:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Bleachhh on July 29, 2007, 08:17:37 AM
There could have been SOOOO MANY things they could've done with the current MM lineup. I guess Taka didn't really try.  And yes ShoujoHino is correct, she did set them up for jokes, but they didn't even go with it. Disappointed by the episode
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: nox_xie on July 29, 2007, 09:45:48 AM
wow.. really hot discussion.. i got no comment now as i dint watch it.. yet..
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: BigDnm01 on July 29, 2007, 12:40:22 PM
anyone got the saturday oricon ranking?  i saw on Wiki.theppn.org that they dropped to #5 spot. but i still wonder how much sales they have total.  hopefully they get number #2 or #3 weekly spot, no problem.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on July 29, 2007, 12:51:34 PM
yeah, they dropped to #5 ... since they're not in the top 3, their daily sale is not listed ....so, I think probably it's around 1500 ?? (because #3 got 1629)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ferrar1 on July 29, 2007, 03:43:54 PM
well you cant blame the host, they are too associated with the past generation.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 30, 2007, 12:57:24 AM
It is good to see that Oricon has a different view on MM than some people here that keep talking about their downfall http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/rankmusic/46672/
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 30, 2007, 01:37:44 AM
^...yeah, i agree with you, but you're not gonna silence any naysayers by posting a link to a japanese ranking sites when the majority can't read it, lol

Summary, at least, man.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 30, 2007, 01:55:16 AM
I'm not home right now, and my dictionaries are not here with me, but it basically says that with their 34th single getting #1 on first day, it is a great achievement for the new leader Takahashi and the new chinese members, and that it makes now 11 times they have debuted at #1, and maybe I'm mistaken but there's something about announcing next week their rank and I think it says 3, and that it's a positive trend for them.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 30, 2007, 02:17:51 AM
^Ah, i thought it looked familiar...I think i read it myself a few days ago...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Susu123 on July 30, 2007, 04:19:53 AM
Ah I love Onna Ni Sachi Are. Its such a good song. Takitty,Risa and Eri sound all extra good. I hope it gets a good weekly rank.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: nikitty104 on July 30, 2007, 04:38:07 AM
Yea i really like the song.. it gets stuck in my head every time i hear it  :P

hmm.. most MM songs tend to have that effect on me though.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Pinkosa on July 30, 2007, 06:10:41 AM
(http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/e0p3g-1-c871.jpg) (http://s2.supload.com/free/e0p3g-1-c871.jpg/view/)(http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/koharu-shibuya.jpg) (http://s2.supload.com/free/koharu-shibuya.jpg/view/)
(http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/7-20070724112317.jpg) (http://s2.supload.com/free/7-20070724112317.jpg/view/)(http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/8-20070724112317.jpg) (http://s2.supload.com/free/8-20070724112317.jpg/view/)
(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8495/fj3fd14e3exj4.jpg)(http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3919/fj3fd24e3eiz2.jpg)(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7340/fj3fd34e3ejm6.jpg)

Why Aichan & Koharu? I would prefer some TakaGaki instead, since Gaki is the subleader ><
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: BakHamNoi on July 30, 2007, 06:14:24 AM


Why Aichan & Koharu? I would prefer some TakaGaki instead, since Gaki is the subleader ><

Maybe because those two members are the most popular, i mean people reconize their faces  :lol:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Pinkosa on July 30, 2007, 06:25:58 AM


Why Aichan & Koharu? I would prefer some TakaGaki instead, since Gaki is the subleader ><

Maybe because those two members are the most popular, i mean people reconize their faces  :lol:

I know but ummm...it will be better with Gaki instead of Koharu XD It's all about tastes i think~
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ferrar1 on July 30, 2007, 09:12:20 AM
Maybe because those pictures are from the same Shibuya station, albeit different train lines, toyoko and chikatetsu lines.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tiny on July 30, 2007, 12:25:51 PM
The daily rankings for Saturday and Sunday were 5th place both. The weekly rank is 2nd with about 43K sold.

This marks the 34th successive Top 10 single for Morning Musume. They now equal Koizumi Kyouko and Amuro Namie in the female Top 10 singles ranking for second place. Only Hamazaki Ayumi has more Top 10 singles (39).
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on July 30, 2007, 12:30:23 PM
congrats ^_^
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: almond on July 30, 2007, 12:30:44 PM
The daily rankings for Saturday and Sunday were 5th place both. The weekly rank is 2nd with about 43K sold.

This marks the 34th successive Top 10 single for Morning Musume. They now equal Koizumi Kyouko and Amuro Namie in the female Top 10 singles ranking for second place. Only Hamazaki Ayumi has more Top 10 singles (39).

I'm quite impressed. It seems the member shake-up did work to their advantage after all. (Now just give Miki some solo work or something and I'm good) :lol:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: misugi on July 30, 2007, 01:18:49 PM
2nd ain't bad, probably I have too high expectation for this great song. :heart:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on July 30, 2007, 01:50:04 PM
If this single delay a week, it'll probably be #1 ..... damn, Otsuka Ai is tough to beat ..... but not for long !! next single, MM will beat her XD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Brat-san on July 30, 2007, 02:01:59 PM
43,000 is an increase about 2000 from Egao YES Nude.  :w00t:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: genericpaperdoll on July 30, 2007, 04:40:21 PM
Second is great, congrats girls!
Watch out, MM's coming back XD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 30, 2007, 05:10:58 PM
2nd~ W000000t~
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: satan ahh lunn on July 30, 2007, 07:37:12 PM
2nd place isn't bad. Keep it up MoMusu.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Pinkosa on July 30, 2007, 08:31:10 PM
If this single delay a week, it'll probably be #1 ..... damn, Otsuka Ai is tough to beat ..... but not for long !! next single, MM will beat her XD
Let's hope there's no Johnny's when MM release their new single  XD
They did it nice with this one~ Congrats  :heart:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Kya on July 30, 2007, 10:19:41 PM
^ Ditto the above. The worst possible situation would be KAT-TUN... what a massacre that would be. o_o; Can Tsunku find out what artists are releasing what on what day before he decides a release date? ^^;

Go MoMusu! 2nd is good, wish they got first but oh well. <3
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 30, 2007, 10:39:51 PM
^Anyone can find out who's releasing on what date, Tsunku should have no problem.

Its called the internet.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on July 30, 2007, 11:19:59 PM
Can Tsunku find out what artists are releasing what on what day before he decides a release date? ^^;
The problem is, if you have been following JPOP news in the last years, that the other labels wait for Zetima to announce their releases, and they announce accordingly. At least it has been like that for two years, I remember last year AVEX waited for the GAM release announcement to release Koda Koumi's singles, and same with Utada (or was it Hamasaki?) waiting for the Matsuura release date to release the same day. So maybe they know who will release, but the trick is to know when, and also who will announce first.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on July 30, 2007, 11:22:11 PM
They got 2nd for the week! Woohoo!
Everytime they release its against the odds of something or another (I mean Kinki Kids with Kanashimi was a hard battle) but they stick to it the best they can and rank up high! Morning Musume keeps rolling~ and they deserve to be happy for doing as well as they do!

Got my support all the way!

All the planning when to release and other people purposely releasing at the same time... sounds all political and businessy... it's one of those necessary icky things I guess. At least its for the good cause that is Musume right?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: BigDnm01 on July 31, 2007, 02:02:32 AM
yah i guess MoMusu will have these tough competitors competing for the top spot.  and from how things are said, seems that that other labels purposely release their singles in the same week as MoMusu for some reason. But despite that, they were still able to take part in the Top 10 position, which is extraordinary.  That proves that MoMusu are tough competitors too and is here to stay.... and it not just the top 10, but in the top 5 and most is even in the top 3 spot.  their are the group to be reckon with.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on July 31, 2007, 05:36:21 AM
Actually, its smart to release in a week with a big name competitor.  It brings more people to the stores, and thats more potential customers who will see the new MM CD in the new releases section next to the one that they planned to buy in the first place.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Daisuki Daiiyo on July 31, 2007, 06:59:04 AM
True, singles released in stronger weeks usually tend to sell more too.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: almond on July 31, 2007, 12:09:13 PM
Actually, its smart to release in a week with a big name competitor.  It brings more people to the stores, and thats more potential customers who will see the new MM CD in the new releases section next to the one that they planned to buy in the first place.

I wonder if that accounts for some of their dips in sales. I remember a few years ago that if a really big name announced a release on the same day, the MM. date would sometimes move.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Susu123 on August 01, 2007, 09:05:00 AM
Yay go Morning Musume. #2 is pretty good. Even though I would want them to be #1. Peach is really catchy plus Otsuka Ai is cute as hell.  :heart:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: herachan on August 01, 2007, 02:10:57 PM
there's no doubt Ai Otsuka's PEACH will get to #1, its becuase it is the ending theme of a very popular dorama currently airing in japan ryt now. Hana Kimi or hanazakari o Kimitachi he. It is being played on TV every week. and the dorama was really good too so thats how otsuka hets the #1 spot (IMO)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RetsuMarippe on August 02, 2007, 03:24:38 AM
i think I'm already late in watching the PV, too much work!~ hahahahaha!
...but 2nd spot on the charts is ok...i think it would take a miracle for MoMusu to get in the top post in the charts...Otsuka Ai's PEACH is...so...darn cute...  :twisted:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on August 02, 2007, 04:06:41 AM
there's no doubt Ai Otsuka's PEACH will get to #1, its becuase it is the ending theme of a very popular dorama currently airing in japan ryt now. Hana Kimi or hanazakari o Kimitachi he. It is being played on TV every week. and the dorama was really good too so thats how otsuka hets the #1 spot (IMO)

well, for a 'popular drama' its doing pretty crappily, same with Orange Range's song for the same drama, it did crappily.  With the ratings that it has, the songs should be selling much much more.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: shurastriker on August 02, 2007, 04:25:30 AM
Actually, its smart to release in a week with a big name competitor.  It brings more people to the stores, and thats more potential customers who will see the new MM CD in the new releases section next to the one that they planned to buy in the first place.

and maybe the MM fans who def will buy the MM single will expend some more XDD but i just guessing, probably they expend the extra money in H!P merchandising XDDDDD
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on August 03, 2007, 07:52:21 PM
Music Fighter 07/08/03

Intro http://www.sendspace.com/file/iynn26

Performance http://www.sendspace.com/file/jetwm9
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Koolmon93 on August 03, 2007, 09:41:22 PM
56k Warning...

Hawtness...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/Koolmon93/RisaLin.gif)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on August 03, 2007, 09:43:18 PM
(http://alkaspace.com/usr/1487/toro3265.gif)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: babydoll on August 03, 2007, 10:20:28 PM
^^ Uh Oh! Linlin is doing the belly shake with Risa. XD

Same thing with Sayumi.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: invisname on August 03, 2007, 10:41:35 PM
Its a party! everyone's shaking it out...lol.

I didn't notice it before but during part of the song they kinda gallop...hehe, seeing that was funny for some reaosn for me.

One of the best pans of the time

(http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/6250/takagakiaz1.gif)
Leader and Subleader Singing power!
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on August 03, 2007, 11:04:27 PM
Total Hawtness XD !!  *NOSEBLEED*
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Bleachhh on August 04, 2007, 03:43:48 AM
My nose!!!. THEYRE bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedingggggggggg. HOT gifs
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on August 04, 2007, 10:56:16 AM
A japanese friend sent me this, saying Oricon is great to know how many CDs are sold, but that a song's popularity is seen in different ways. This is from TV Hokkaido, a show called PLAY DJ aired yesterday. Even if for Oricon this single is now at #36, in Hokkaido is #4 http://www.sendspace.com/file/qt63j2 As I said, this ranking is from yesterday.

And he also says that on some radio stations the song is listed as #3 on their rankings, while other stations have it at #5.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Brat-san on August 04, 2007, 10:58:32 AM
Makes a lot of sense, seeing how CD sales are so easy to be unreliable somewhat nowadays.

People sometimes download off Itunes (paying) or just download via anything
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on August 04, 2007, 11:31:01 AM
Yep, I guess Oricon, as my friend says, is great for CD sales, but to base a song's popularity on its Oricon chart standings.... See, TV Hokkaido's PLAY DJ has it at #4, SPACE SHOWER TV's "SUPER HITS 50" chart for today has it at #9 http://www.spaceshowertv.com/chart/super.html  BARKS has it at #17 on its chart http://www.barks.jp/  And as mentioned before, some radio stations still have it in the Top 5. Oricon has it at #36 (it was #40, went up 4 places).

Don't get me wrong, Oricon is still a great indicator, but we should not feel down if the songs we like fall on Oricon's charts. Maybe they're doing better on other listings.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: linlin on August 04, 2007, 11:39:02 AM
I did notice Linlin's shaking but not Risa or Sayu. Man, the girls really doing their best huh?  :yep:
(And Risa looks pleased with it :lol:)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ChiruChaCha on August 04, 2007, 11:47:06 AM
Yep, I guess Oricon, as my friend says, is great for CD sales, but to base a song's popularity on its Oricon chart standings.... See, TV Hokkaido's PLAY DJ has it at #4, SPACE SHOWER TV's "SUPER HITS 50" chart for today has it at #9 http://www.spaceshowertv.com/chart/super.html  BARKS has it at #17 on its chart http://www.barks.jp/  And as mentioned before, some radio stations still have it in the Top 5. Oricon has it at #36 (it was #40, went up 4 places).

Don't get me wrong, Oricon is still a great indicator, but we should not feel down if the songs we like fall on Oricon's charts. Maybe they're doing better on other listings.

But Oricon is by far the chart that most influences among the musical market.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: reyfer on August 04, 2007, 12:01:46 PM
Yep, I guess Oricon, as my friend says, is great for CD sales, but to base a song's popularity on its Oricon chart standings.... See, TV Hokkaido's PLAY DJ has it at #4, SPACE SHOWER TV's "SUPER HITS 50" chart for today has it at #9 http://www.spaceshowertv.com/chart/super.html  BARKS has it at #17 on its chart http://www.barks.jp/  And as mentioned before, some radio stations still have it in the Top 5. Oricon has it at #36 (it was #40, went up 4 places).

Don't get me wrong, Oricon is still a great indicator, but we should not feel down if the songs we like fall on Oricon's charts. Maybe they're doing better on other listings.

But Oricon is by far the chart that most influences among the musical market.
I agree, but as I said on both the previous posts I made, Oricon is a great indicator, but a song may be more popular than Oricon's chart placement may suggest, that's all. Some of the best and most remembered songs in western music never made it to Billboard's #1. Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody" only got #9 on US charts. Just an example  :oops:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: satan ahh lunn on August 04, 2007, 10:20:51 PM
well back a while ago in this post, i had posted about "Onna ni Sachi Are" Limited Edition Version B, being sold out on CD Japan, but now, it's available again. So i wanted to know if anyone who brought it or brought something that is "Special Packaging", can i buy other stuff that doesn't have "Special Packaging" on the same order???
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: lil_hamz on August 05, 2007, 06:02:34 AM
^ Yep you sure can. I ordered my limited ed B, single V and BK single V in the same order.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tiny on August 05, 2007, 06:46:14 AM
Point in reyfer's case: #2 in this weeks CDTV ranking (short clip here: http://www.mediafire.com/?esycztxjlm2) (edit: the file is named wrong, it should be "070804 CDTV.mpg")
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: linlin on August 05, 2007, 12:43:13 PM
So pple like to listen to the song but not buying it. I totally understand that though. I mean I love love Arashi.. but I have just one album and one single :P
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: misugi on August 05, 2007, 02:09:28 PM
In today's Oricon, they have moved up to 31 spot from 40-36-33-31.  They'll probably make the 1st place in 2 weeks :P
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: satan ahh lunn on August 05, 2007, 03:31:25 PM
^ Yep you sure can. I ordered my limited ed B, single V and BK single V in the same order.

Thanks lil_hamz  :D
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Parhelion69 on August 07, 2007, 03:14:09 AM
I loved music fighter's performance, they had some great camera work, we saw several takes that weren't on other performances, that's what I exactly like. I just hoped it was as long as the haromoni one, 3 minutes is the perfect time for onna ni sachi are.

Some mamechan:
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8555/gakika1.gif)
Risa's so hot and cute :wub:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: tiny on August 07, 2007, 08:52:37 AM
Second week rankings

Daily: 5 - 30 - 40 - 36 - 33 - 31 - 38

Weekly: 31

Sales are published tomorrow.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on August 07, 2007, 09:00:43 AM
i'm guessing around 3000-4000 range, since the it was #31...everything #30 and above was published...so yeah.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: Lunar on August 17, 2007, 11:50:20 PM
I was wondering if there are any Scans of the Onna Sachi Are Limited-B  Booklet cause in case there are none I could scan
them for you guys :O
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on August 18, 2007, 04:06:07 AM
i swore i saw like all of them on nozomionline a week or two ago...
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: JFC on August 18, 2007, 06:38:26 AM
^ They're no longer there?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ~Dan~ on August 20, 2007, 05:40:34 PM
Morning Musume 070819 Onna ni Sachi Are event
1st performance: http://sharebee.com/d71fee12 (wma, 25mb)
2nd performance: http://sharebee.com/be0037ae (mp3, 21mb)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: auroragb on August 20, 2007, 09:42:04 PM
Sorry, late to the discussion.

But, isn't the title a pun for "Jerking off is Happiness" ?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on August 20, 2007, 09:51:23 PM
You serious? You must break it down for me :lol:

I remember tsunku did something like that for Aisu Cream to My Purin
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: auroragb on August 20, 2007, 09:53:15 PM
Onani is japanese for jerking off / blowjob
sachi are can be translated to happines
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on August 20, 2007, 10:00:27 PM
lmao yeah, also i surmised that:

"Woman's Happiness" and with the lyrics of the song saying they don't need men...means they can just masturbate (woman's happiness)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: auroragb on August 20, 2007, 10:31:44 PM
It would have also been fun if, instead of repeating baka so many times, they repeated "onna ni" followed by a "sachi are" to end the song  :lol:
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: ferrar1 on August 21, 2007, 02:15:06 AM
erm as much as that's true, we should avoid degrading this song :)
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: satan ahh lunn on August 24, 2007, 10:01:14 PM
Onna ni Sachi Are Limited Edition B is available again at cdjapan.co.jp

recently, about two weeks ago, it was out of print and four weeks ago, when it was released it was out of print because a lot of people pre-order it... but now it have it again...???

is this really??? :?
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: chokkan 2 on August 24, 2007, 10:05:23 PM
so they reprinting Limited Editions ?!  ...... what's the point about being a "Limited Edition" ? ..............
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: SomethingWild on August 24, 2007, 10:10:03 PM
Maybe they forgot to open a box of their stock haha.. or maybe some couldn't pay the bill or something.

I hope the KT with booklet becomes available again, missed out on that one..
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: RionZ on August 24, 2007, 10:45:00 PM
^when it says "out-of-print" in CDjapan, it really means its just not available anymore.  They can get a new stock if they looked from their sources more, but thats too much of a hassle and counter-productive unless there was a high demand for it.

For instance, Yuna Ito's Losin' You and Stuck on You singles were limited to 50,000 copies each, however they only sold less than 10,000 or something.  There are 40,000 more to be grabbed in various retailers.
Title: Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
Post by: satan ahh lunn on August 25, 2007, 02:16:20 AM
RionZ, like you said other retailer do sell them...Like yesasia for example...but they do sell them at a higher price than cdjapan...also this is the third time where it became available after it said "Out of Stock" a couple of weeks ago...


.:edit:.

i want to know if anyone have the scans of these photos...???  :D