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Rei-chan · « **Reply #400 on:** September 24, 2009, 04:27:51 PM »

Ooh Allkpop had a more complete translation of the statement:

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Hi, It's Yang Hyun-Seok.

For the past few months, there were way too many rumours and misunderstandings regarding YG Entertainment. Frankly speaking, we kept our words, because we did not think it was right to defend against every single rumours. I am feeling deeply sorry for burdening you with our silence, and decided to explain ourselves.

I will answer the questions as if we were in an interview setting.

There has been an issue of plarigiarism regarding G-Dragon's solo album title song, Heartbreaker. How come YG has not released an official statement regarding this issue?
Apart from the part of this issue, as a person who loves music, and as a producer who is taking part in improving popular music industry, I apologize from deep below. The reason why YG and G-Dragon did not release a statement up till now, is because we heard that the publishing companies have sent the music file to the original composer, and we have been waiting for a reply.

We did not think it was right to release our opinion before the composers.

It was broadcast on “News Magazine 2580 (시사매거진 2580)” that Sony ATV has sent a warning to YG entertainment. What is YG's response?
First of all, we are very upset towards Sony ATV. Everything they do, they try to justify it in the media as an official statement. I do not know whether they sent the warning to YG or they sent it to broadcast it in the media in the first place.

To the makers of music, the word ‘plarigiarism' represents the worst honour. Even if the composers say ‘it isn't plarigiarized', it remains as unhealed deep wounds to those involved. In case of “Heartbreaker”, the other publishing companies owning 90% of the rights have remained silent, whereas Sony, owning 10% of the rights, have released their “official statement” on the media.

A few days ago, a lawyer from Sony ATV was interviewed with “News magazine 2580″, and told that they have sent a warning to YG entertainment. The only thing YG is concerned about, is that the public is thinking as if YG has been sued from the composers and YG is in a deep trouble. Contrary to the public's belief, the warning Sony ATV sent to YG is nothing but mere document they could send hundreds of copies per day. It contained no opinions of the composers themselves, it looked like it was quickly made to be broadcast. Apart from the lawyer of Sony ATV, there was the president of Sony ATV Korea, Heo Young-Ah. You need to remember that she appeared as a board member for Korean Music Publishing Association; she concealed her identity as the president of Sony ATV Korea.

Ever since this issue of plarigiarism broke out, YG has never asked for anything from Sony ATV. We did not want to resolve this issue without the public knowing. If there needs to be any legal actions taken, YG will try its best, and is not afraid a bit. However, we have heard that Sony ATV has only two to three people working, and we have been concerned with that. “Are they able to contact the composers directly?” “Are the original composers interested in this matter at all?” For nearly a month, we have not heard a single word from the composers, and we are doubting for a bit.

In the warning Sony ATV sent to YG, there are not only G-Dragon's “Heartbreaker” and “Butterfly”, but also 2NE1's “I Don't Care” and Big Bang's Japanese song, “With U”. We were surprised to see new songs being accused, but we will think it as Sony's new strategies, thinking that accusing G-Dragon alone is not enough.For the cases of “I Don't Care” and “With U”, they are the works of YG's main producers, Teddy and Perry. Teddy has been a producer for 10 years, and Perry has been for 15 years. There are hundreds of songs they composed and produced. Among them, there may be cases they might be accused, but for the past 10 years, there has been any accusations for their works. They remained in YG despite the countless scoutings from others. They have high prides of their music, and are hurt deeply from Sony ATV's hush press releases. Their hurt pride is not able to be healed fast, and YG has been accused full of “composers who plarigiarize” in the public. To be honest, I think because they are famous and both producers, Sony ATV is using them for their advantage.

Sony ATV has accused that G-Dragon's “Butterfly” has copied OASIS' “She's Electric” for having similar parts. The musician who appeared on “News magazine 2580″ stated that the parts the two songs are similar are 2 bars, panning approximately 5 seconds. But he also stated that because that is the main sequence melody, it may be a problem.

Now, I'd like to ask you a question as well.

A few days ago, Mariah Carey's new song, “Standing O” teaser was released on youtube. Comparing this song to “I Don't Care”, you get 8 bars of similar parts. It is 24 seconds, instead of 5 seconds, also has it as its major motive, and adding up the similar parts together, results in approximately 1 minute. What is Sony ATV's opinion towards this song? I don't know, but I am sure that you can't easily say that Mariah Carey has plagiarized 2NE1's song that was released 3 months ago, although it contains longer and clearer motives from “I Don't Care”. [I think the translator made a mistake here, because the song is supposed to be In the Club]

I have thought reversely as well. “What if this was G-Dragon's music? What if it was the other way around?” It is quite scary.

Although embarrassing to admit, the music Sony ATV presented for “I Don't Care”, none of the composers nor myself have heard the song, because it isn't the type of music we listen to in the first place. Upon Sony ATV's standards, if you were to put together pieces of any music together by force, I do not think any music could be innocent in your standards. If protecting the rights of publishers is Sony ATV's job, you should also take a note that other publishers' dignity and rights are just as important.

Because Sony ATV released such rash public statements, YG and G-Dragon had to receive more sarcastic remarks and offensive responses, but we decided not to release our statement towards Sony ATV through the media. It is because we respected your company, NOT because we did not have anything to say. The first and last proposal from YG to Sony ATV, is that please deliver us the opinions from the original composers to YG, and stop releasing unconfirmed statement to the media before anything finalizes. If the 4 songs you warned YG are proved to be innocent in the near-future, you should be prepared to see YG's reaction.

Where does YG stand in this plarigiarism issue?
In my opinion, all the arguments and discussions could be seen different depending on the views and the viewers. So, I cannot explain my personal opinion of whether it was influenced by other songs or not.

However, in the centre of attention, there is “Heartbreaker”. This issue emerged above the surface because it had similar rap-flow as Flo Rida's "Right Round". Right Round is an extremely famous song even in Korea, and recently another Korean artist has sung it with translation, and appeared on the media. It is impossible that the composers at YG and G-Dragon tried to go around their way to plagiarize. It is impossible, because with the internet and all, everything gets revealed quickly.

Many expressed their concerns, “Why did G-Dragon do this? For the rappers who write and rap, it shouldn't be hard to fix a few verses and re-recording”, and “How come did Yang Hyun-Seok, Teddy, Perry and Kush never mention that to G-Dragon?” It isn't because we were trying to fool the public, but the other way around. I did not expect such a stir among the public, and I think I should be 100 folds more responsible than G-Dragon as the executive producer. I am truly sorry to G-Dragon and his fans who are burdened alone.

Any more wrongs from the media and misunderstandings?
YG never released a statement that “Heartbreaker is G-Dragon's solo-composed piece. Would the public like this piece if this was a plarigiarized piece?”. This is absurd and truly psychotic. Due to high interest to Big Bang and 2NE1, there are many unsaid things being reported to the media, and rumours are creating more rumours. Because I do not socialize as much, there are haters and misunderstandings happening frequently.

Recently, KBS Radio boycotted all the YG music from being played on the air, and because 2NE1's manager declined an interview request, one newspaper continuously pours out articles containing some crap about YG. Even yesterday, he wrote that “Yang Hyun-seok is loving his artists in the wrong way”. For the past three months, there are over 30 articles he wrote against YG. I think the saying, ‘you never get tired' suits him for sure. I think it may be because he has too much love and interest towards YG.

Mere entertainment companies can't fight against media corporations. It is also hard to lobby them to put on better articles. I try to think to groom myself first instead of talking badly of others these days.

There are opinions which claim that “the issue has elevated because YG has been covering G-Dragon as a genius composer”. What do you think about this?
The funny thing is, for the past 9 years G-Dragon has resided in YG, YG & I have never/ called him a genius composer. I am known to be cold and objective from my artists. The fans know that I am not that kind of person complementing the artists often. In opposite, the fans were upset because I talked about G-Dragon's collaboration process with others.

There are around 60 songs which G-Dragon took part in composing and writing lyrics. Usually he wrote the lyrics by himself, but when composing music, he collaborated with many people. The reason is because he has been really busy to take time arranging the songs. When G-Dragon was 16 years old, I have used my own personal money to get him some musical gear, and G-Dragon has made many hiphop tracks, but because Big Bang debuted and had rigorous schedule, it had been stopped. I heard that there are 10 people holding license for “Right Round”. It is such an ordinary way of composing music with others.

A few months ago, it is important to be able to arrange songs you have composed, but it is also important to make the melodies and lyrics, and designing the structure of the song as a whole. They are important because they cannot be only learned. You need that sense of gift for that part.

The term ‘genius' does not suit the 22-year-old composer, and nor does he want it. The reason why so many people have their hopes for him, is not because he is a genius, but because he has his unique style and sense towards music. Extraordinary 13-year-old boy has become the G-Dragon of today, and people see him in the long run and in his potential from today.

There are sayings that this issue is part of the marketing for YG.
First of all, YG is not that clever to come up with a marketing plan like this. Especially for G-Dragon, he was receiving enough attention as the leader of a famous idol group in Korea, and for releasing his ever-first solo album. He is even cutting off the appearance on the stage…

There are also rumours that you are having troubles with one broadcasting company, because your artists are not appearing on the stage.
Whenever I hear about these rumours, I feel bad towards the broadcasting company. I think this was derived because of YG's marketing scheme of appearing only 1 show per week. YG is only concerned about the best program for its artists, we do not try to make better connection with the broadcasting companies. We are not ignoring the broadcasting company, nor does the company boycotting the appearance of YG artists. In the eyes of broadcasting company, there are way too many artists wanting to appear the show. However, 2NE1 and G-Dragon has not requested to be on the show… It is only fair that they do not need to cast YG artists from their side.

Again, I apologize for any misunderstandings.

Now, the good news
This weekend, we are filming Tae Yang's music video “Where U At” with Seo Hyung-Seung PD. We know that his promotion period was extremely short. We are trying to come up with ideas for longer promotion period. It is being planned that the song will be released with a music video as digital media first. The estimated date for Tae Yang's full volume cd is still to be announced. I will keep you posted about Tae Yang soon.

On the first weekend of December, there will be G-Dragon's solo concert. It will be held in Olympic Gymnastics Stadium, and there will be two concerts. A detailed notice will be posted up soon, and the ticketing will be done after the Chinese New Year.

That's it for now. I will try to come back only with the happy news next time.

2009 09 24
From YG

"Upon Sony ATV's standards, if you were to put together pieces of any music together by force, I do not think any music could be innocent in your standards. If protecting the rights of publishers is Sony ATV's job, you should also take a note that other publishers' dignity and rights are just as important." EXACTLY.

kuno_thunder · « **Reply #401 on:** September 24, 2009, 10:50:01 PM »

Well said, Hyun-Seok. Well said. Sounds to me like a new recruit at Sony wanted to show the big bosses what he or she could do, and decided to play a little hardball too soon.

Sev · « **Reply #402 on:** September 25, 2009, 10:22:50 AM »

After months of fucking up from the bank. I finally got my 2NE1 Visa. I'll hook up a pic later.

tenkei · « **Reply #403 on:** September 25, 2009, 10:11:02 PM »

i was gonna make a CL visa on capital one a few months ago, but they say you can't use images of celebrities. i should try anyway

kuno_thunder · « **Reply #404 on:** October 01, 2009, 03:41:20 AM »

I thought that GD crushed on CL and not Dara? Oh, Daragon, y'all make me jealous.

thatonezombie · « **Reply #405 on:** October 01, 2009, 04:17:46 AM »

Are those winged adidas I see?

Rei-chan · « **Reply #406 on:** October 01, 2009, 04:21:17 AM »

^ OMG they are! =O Awesome!

I thought GD crushed on Bommie

Either way, that's just planned, doesnt mean Daragon, so dont worry Kunito~

kuno_thunder · « **Reply #407 on:** October 01, 2009, 05:23:22 AM »

GD loves 2NE1, possibly even more than I do! He gets to chill with them, and buy them sandwiches, and do songs with them. Minji is in line!

thatonezombie · « **Reply #408 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:08:40 AM »

I know the intention is to look at the girls (which I am) but Fila's sneaker game is on point this fall

2009 FILA Fall 2NE1 Collection

Pictures here http://www.allkpop.com/index.php/full_story/more_of_2ne1_for_fila/

Rayle · « **Reply #409 on:** October 04, 2009, 12:34:05 AM »

Idol Big Show cuts

100309 2NE1 Fire + Let's Go Party @ Idol Big Show Chuseok Special
091003 2NE1 + Big Bang - Last Farewell on Chuseok Special Idol Big Show
091003 Big Bang + 2NE1 - How Gee + 'Dance battle' on Chuseok Special Idol Big Show

And the GD-Dara duet
091003 G-Dragon - Hello ft. Dara (2NE1) on Chuseok Special Idol Big Show

I Don't Care duet w/ GD
091003 / 091004 2NE1 and GDragon I don't care unplugged , MC Cuts, 2NE1 Fire SBS Idol Big Show

thatonezombie · « **Reply #410 on:** October 09, 2009, 04:23:50 AM »

I couldn't help but notice CL's shoes during Fire with the adidas logo tongues. Ballerina right there.

Rei-chan · « **Reply #411 on:** October 19, 2009, 06:04:03 AM »

So... I read that Sandara's brother Park Sang Hyun is also known as Thunder =O If she gets it on with KT, she's gonna have double Thunder in her life

Beecubed · « **Reply #412 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:42:33 AM »

Ooh ooh ooh!

2NE1 is about the only girl band (besides Brown Eyed Girls) that I've really taken a liking to. I could care less for SNSD and such, but these girls really have the attitude AND the talent to pull it off convincingly.

CL. <3

daigong · « **Reply #413 on:** October 23, 2009, 04:18:33 AM »

Look how gangsta they be, W Cover girls

Rayle · « **Reply #414 on:** October 23, 2009, 05:55:44 AM »

SOLD! to the one with the pistol. Minzy?

And lol, when I see W magazine I just think of H!P W, RIP.

Rei-chan · « **Reply #415 on:** October 28, 2009, 05:49:25 PM »

OMG how come no one has commented on Bommie's MV yet??

I loooooove the song and the MV... both so pretty and awesome~ She looks beautiful in the MV and the concept is pretty as well as the colors and such... I just wish i reeeeally knew what the story is... I mean, was the wedding dreamed or did they get married? Did he really die at the end?? Etc... I hope she talks about the story on some show

[MV] Park Bom: You and I (Solo Single)

tenkei · « **Reply #416 on:** October 28, 2009, 10:35:35 PM »

so much better than Dara's solo, lol

e_lo05 · « **Reply #417 on:** October 30, 2009, 07:36:45 AM »

I really like Bom's solo song and video. I even did a little mix of it. Check it out and let me know what you think. It's not that great. I just got bored and decided to mess around with Garageband a little bit.

Bom x Jason Mraz - "You and I'm Yours"
http://www.mediafire.com/?znm40g4k0yz

kuno_thunder · « **Reply #418 on:** November 03, 2009, 01:45:38 AM »

Bump for boobies!
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=14ta89v&s=4

Rei-chan · « **Reply #419 on:** November 03, 2009, 03:07:07 AM »

^ Wtf

What vid is that clip from?