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Title: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM? One did \o/
Post by: Aioros on August 09, 2010, 12:00:49 PM: So yeah. After the graduation announcement yesterday, auditions for the next generation of Morning Musume also opened.

Personally, I'm not fond of auditions because six years ago, there were already girls who already auditioned and I think are definitely qualified for the job: the H!P Eggs.

Yes, such a group exists. They've been around even before I was aware of Morning Musume or H!P as a whole. You've probably seen them in H!P concerts and PVs as background dancers. They definitely have talent, since some have even been placed into mainstream H!P groups, one became a soloist and recently, S/mileage debuted.

The Shinjin Kouen on November will be the last concert the Eggs will perform as a whole. But what happens to them after?

Definitely, a new group consisting of Eggs is out of the question. With the time and effort S/mileage has to go through just to debut, I can't imagine what kind of task they will be asked to do. Double what S/mileage has done? Sell X number of singles in a day? A new Egg group will probably be better for late next year, or after Miyabi gets her 2nd photobook.

People don't want them put in Berryz and C-ute. Although it is quite understandable, I still have to ask "why not?"

It would be a pity if the Eggs would remain in the shadows forever and worst case, be released by the agency.

But now there is hope.

With 3 strong and likable members of Morning Musume scheduled to graduate, there will be an opening. It will be a big void to fill but, it is now a chance for the Eggs to show their years (for others, months) worth of training.

tsunkuboy already said that Eggs are also possible candidates (http://twitter.com/tsunkuboy/statuses/20631570097), but most likely only 2-3 at most are going to make the cut. Or maybe none.

But still, there is HOPE!

TL;DR

In this thread, make a list of H!P Eggs and the reason why you think they are qualified or have what it takes to be in Morning Musume. Any number of girls will do. It's just speculation so keep it clean and fun. :twothumbs

PS: I hope that not only the 10-11 Hipsters who know about the Eggs are going to post in the thread. :lol:

(http://a.imageshack.us/img824/5710/eggsj.jpg)
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on August 09, 2010, 12:39:17 PM: Quote from: wordsworth on August 09, 2010, 12:00:49 PM
A new Egg group will probably be better for late next year, or after Miyabi gets her 2nd photobook.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

10-11 people know about Eggs? Hm I guess there are that many :D

I could think about this from many angles...

If it was about choosing the most experienced ones, I would go for these awesome four: Sengoku (whose pic is missing above), Kikkawa, Kitahara and/or Saho.
Saho especially because she got screwed by the S/mileage thing and because she's my favourite. :P

If it was about personality, Konatsu is crazy. Sayaka is an intimidating tomboy. Momoka is a weirdo/airhead. Kikkawa is fascinating/weirdish. KARIN IS BOLD. (But could you imagine Karin performing like Resonant Blue? Kimagure Princess? I think she's out of the question, but who knows)

Ricchan looks and moves in a funny way, always makes me smile, so I guess she fits the personality slot as well xD

If it was about looks, well there are tons of cute and pretty ones :D I'll mention Ayano who I think is really cute, but has been quite unnoticeable so far (to be honest, I just forgot what her name is). I don't think I've ever heard her sing, so even if she was an Egg before it would be like choosing a total newbie lol

If it was about singing talent, the following have particularly nice voices that I like: Sekine, Kikkawa, Saho, Tanaka Anri... Sayaka could be cool with some more control on her voice, she has a unique voice lol.

If it was about who MY PERSONAL FAVOURITES ARE, then I want Akari Saho. :lol: Akari Akari Akari :heart:

Basically I would be fine with any Egg they chose except Sainen (because out of the 1st gen Eggs, she's the least interesting) or Haruka because she's too tiny and too new lol (I know there are other new ones, too, but her age + newness + general awkwardness = I don't see her in MM for a few years to come)

One of the audition 'requirements' said "I want to become cuter"... Well even if many Eggs have had nice hairstyles and stuff, I think there is room for all of them to become cuter even after many years of training, so I don't see that as a problem :3 Egg outfits at concerts are also not as nice generally than the main acts..

I really hope that at least one Egg can make it into Morning Musume! It would be like a dream come true, not just for the Egg but for me as well as a fan. :lol:

EDIT: Morisaki's pic is missing as well :lol:
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: J-Triumf on August 09, 2010, 12:57:24 PM: Because ~~it's funny~~ I'm evil:
Quote from: J-Triumf on August 09, 2010, 12:31:57 AM
if Kikkawa is picked up be prepared for a nonstop barrage of "Yuu and Ai" puns. :twisted:
I honestly don't know much about the Eggs themselves, but it seems like it only makes sense that one or some of them get picked for the group since I thought the whole point of the Eggs was to prepare these girls for something like this. Plus getting someone with experience can help offset/balance the young age of whoever comes in through the new audition. I guess it's time for me to start doing my homework on these ladies. :lol:
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on August 09, 2010, 02:16:30 PM: OK so I already wrote a post above but there are so many angles to look at this, watch me post again. lol

Let's look at the "requirements" again :D as translated by the lovely lilcazza

10-17 year old girls who love singing, please gather around!

(1)私はとっても元気で明るいです！
(1)I'm really lively and bright!
(2)私は歌が大好きなので、歌手になりたいです！
(2)I love to sing so I want to be a singer!
(3)私は芸能界にあこがれています！
(3)I want to be a part of the showbiz world!
(4)私はもっとカワイクなりたいです！
(4)I want to be more cute!
(5)私の才能を見つけてください！
(5)Please find my talent!
(6)私は今はまだ自信はないけど、いつかきっと輝く日が来るはずです！
(6)I have no confidence now but that bright day will come someday!
(7)私は自信はないけど、周りのみんなが推薦してくれるのでがんばります！
(7)I have no confidence but people around me recommended this so I'll try my best!
(8 )私が芸能界に入らなければ、この先芸能界はつまらなくなると思っています！
(8 )I have to enter the showbiz world, I think the showbiz world now is boring!
(9)私は芸能界でナンバー１になる自信があります！
(9)I have the confidence to be number 1 in the showbiz world!
(10)私はモーニング娘。（ハロー！プロジェクト）が大好きです
(10)I love Morning Musume (Hello! Project)

The ones I didn't bold I assume already apply to H!P Eggs because they won that audition already.
The bits I did bold are what I assume to be the most important requirements when it comes to choosing from the Eggs.

10-17 year old girls
As it turns out, some Eggs would already be above the age limit: Hirano, Tanaka, Sengoku, Kikkawa and Furukawa. (But if the agency/Tsunku really wanted to choose one of these, I don't think their age would be an issue. Still, better be mentally prepared that these girls might be automatically OUT)

Even if the lowest age is 10, I somehow find it very difficult that a girl this young would actually be chosen, just because the songs that Momusu has recently released require some 'inner maturity' (Shouganai Yume Oibito), have more grown dance routines (Kimagure Princess) or require particular confidence/boldness in singing the lines (Moonlight Night) that I don't see a 10-year-old being able to do. So even if the audition says the minimum age is 10, in my mind I'm setting it to 12-13. ROFL
Based on this, at least Karin, Nanami and Haruka would be OUT.

I want to be more cute
It should be remembered that most Momusu audition winners have been raw/hidden beauties or cuties, where it takes time for them to really bloom. Like when they're first chosen, fans go like "WTF IS THIS UGLY GIRL", then later see what it was all about. I'd say there are still many Eggs who are raw beauties (tho not exactly ugly), partly because of their age and partly because Eggs just don't get the same level of styling that MM, Berryz, C-ute, S/mileage do. So that's one reason why Eggs are still good to go.

Also, the girls who generally pass a MM audition have a totally new type of beauty; they're not really comparable to anyone who came before. Like Koharu didn't look like anyone, and Aika doesn't look like anyone. Luckily many Eggs fit this category. But there are some girls that instantly stand out as 'hey, that is new', whether in good or bad, and I specifically remember Manoeri giving me that impression when I first saw her (and now she's a solo singer). Some others like that were Kitahara, Fukumura and Takeuchi, possibly Satou as well.

Please find my talent
Even if Eggs have had Shinjin Kouens, it's not nearly the same as being in Morning Musume. They've had some chances to test their talents, but I think they are still 'raw' enough for more discoveries. There is still potential to poke around. But I have to admit that the newer Eggs are at an advantage when it comes to this.

I'm really lively and bright
Arguably one of the most important skills for a Momusu member is to SMILE. I think the reason why Kikkawa initially wasn't chosen for MM was because she didn't used to be much of a smiling girl (but I think she is now). So I'd just like to point out that Akari has a lovely, bright smile

(http://picroda.jphip.com/hp/jphip08240.jpg)

(PLEASE CHOOSE AKARI)

Other than that, I think the "lively and bright" thing fits all of the H!P Eggs. They wouldn't have passed the Egg audition if it wasn't for it... So me babbling about this is a but redundant lol

ANYWAY Since I'm cheering for Akari, here is why she should be chosen:
- She is 15, possibly the best age for a new member (not disturbingly young, but not too old)
- She is a 1st gen Egg who's had training and experience, so even if there is still room to improve, she will be ready to go instantly on stage, which seems to have been a requirement for Tsunku in the Korean H!P audition (which was the most recent audition and gives an idea of what he's looking for NOW)
- Both in looks and talent she is promising, but still raw and could really bloom nicely
- She is lively and bright lol
- She can do both :D songs and fierce songs, see Aa!
- Her voice doesn't resemble any previous MM member
- She's my favourite
- If there is any reason why she didn't make S/mileage, THIS should be it (aka, saving her for something else)
- She may not talk that often, but when she does, she usually says something unexpected (see her H!P DVD Mag talk)
- Because she's a 'good girl' who studies, I fear that unless she gets a more secure role in the idol world, she'll quit the business sooner or later to focus on studies.... and that would break my heart (not that Tsunku cares lol)

:D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: shurastriker on August 09, 2010, 02:54:53 PM: Saho sounds like a strong possibility imo, i guess she would fit just fine in to the group... however the only down must be that she is not very talkative and mabe they don't want another aichan at this point (but aichan is the most awesome member ever in momusu so in a very unbiased way XD i see no problem) My second candidate is Kitahara Sayaka because she is awesome and have the experience from Milky Way when she did good imo. Both have a good age to fits in to the group (i dont want a 12 girl doing KP or songs banned just coz the new talent)

Oh and about the audition obviously Tsunku wants to cast additional members for the Eggs or NGP but srsly i hope he choose a +15 girl with some decent vocal range just because the 3 girls leaving have a decent singing skill (at least for what is needed)
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: Aioros on August 09, 2010, 03:14:23 PM: I didn't notice that the pics above were incomplete XD

Here is the current lineup for the Eggs. For the lulz

(http://a.imageshack.us/img440/5470/eggsx.jpg)

I will post my thoughts in a bit.
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: winner on August 09, 2010, 03:23:56 PM: I only know Kikkawa~ :banghead:
I really expect Tsunku to at least add 1-2 eggs to MM. Having the training and concert experience will be a big plus to help the group pick up speed again.
Add another 2 fresh faces to keep it a good 9-formation again.

Of course, I'm all for Tsunku doing another 'Mikitty' by adding Manoeri. :D
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: SomethingWild on August 09, 2010, 03:29:53 PM: Sayaka Kitahara!!! Great appearance, interesting vocals :thumbup
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: Aioros on August 09, 2010, 05:45:57 PM: Damn. So the age limit automatically DQ's Sengoku, Kikka, Anri, Konatsu and Tomomi. :lol:

I wanted to give those girls a chance but I guess Sengoku can use her innate ability to seduce inanimate objects in a different way. Or why not just permanently make her a Berryz member.

LOL @ Manoeri in Momusu. Who knows, it might be tsunkuboy's grand scheme. :lol:

My picks:

Kitahara Sayaka
- In the borderline between cute and pretty. She was one of the Eggs whose looks left an impact the first time I read about them.
- With her stint in Milky Way, she definitely has an experience advantage and possibly a small fanbase.
- She gives off a Yossy-esque vibe, something the current and the post-Yossy groups lack and something MM definitely needs. But with Sayaka younger than the current members, it might backfire or become a wild shotacon experience.
- Unique voice that may require polishing. Won't be difficult because Sayaka works hard.
- Abs.

Sekine Azusa
- Powerful vocals, definitely top tier among the Eggs in this category.
- She is young, in fact she is younger than Mai from C-ute. Being young gives her lots of opportunities to grow and improve her already good skills.
- Was a background dancer for Manoeri's PVs so she has experience points.
- Projects a good presence onstage and backstage

Saho Akari
- Shugo Chara Egg experience? Check. Manoeri background dancer? Check. Aa!? Check.
- Voice has good quality and consistency - one of her strengths and one of the reasons why I think she didn't make it into S/mileage. Her voice has a different depth compared to Yuuka and co. Not very noticeable but you can hear it in the 1st SCE single when Akari sings her lines. S/aki's voice is more in tune with the other three.
- She was put into Aa! and was not overwhelmed by the two other aces, proving she can go toe to toe with the big guns of H!P
- watch the Aa! performances from the Shuffle Date concert
- read shirenu's posts above

Darkhorse: Satou Ayano
- I don't know why, but I just like Ayano. :lol:

I'll probably update my list as the the audition comes but those three girls are the fastest that comes into mind when I think of H!P Eggs joining Morning Musume.

Quote from: shirenu
KARIN IS BOLD. (But could you imagine Karin performing like Resonant Blue? Kimagure Princess? I think she's out of the question, but who knows)
If S/mileage can perform the Elegies song, surely, Karin can perform those MM songs too. :P
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: Ayabie on August 09, 2010, 07:24:35 PM: First of all, I just want to point out that Komine is no longer an egg, and Sainen is probably leaving (left?) as well... :/

Assuming Tsunku would add 3 of the eggs, my picks would be:

Sekine Azusa
- I reckon she's the best singer out of the current eggs.
- Stage aura. You can't help but just stare at her whenever she's singing.
- Seems pretty normal personality-wise, but then she hasn't had many opportunities to show it off. The latter goes for the majority of the eggs too, though.

Saho Akari
- To be honest I don't think she fits the "MM" image, so to say, but she's a good candidate and this is Tsunku's chance to make use of her before she leaves along with half of the other eggs.
- Fuck awesome personality. She'd probably be less talkative among seniors, but give her a year getting closer to them and I'm positive she's going to claim a good spot for her character.
- Distinct voice that could be a good addition to the group.
- She can kick your ass.

Furukawa Mizuki
- Screw age restrictions. She's grown a lot from when she first joined the eggs, and she still is. Put her in the group and accelerate it with MM magic.
- She's definitely got the vocals for this.
- Stylish, and I'd even say she's got the looks of a potential idol.

Special mentions
Kikkawa Yuu - I always preferred her over Mitsui, but putting her in the current group wouldn't be the best move.
Satou Ayano - One of my favorite current eggs, and I see a lot of potential in her. I don't think she belongs in MM, though.
Miyamoto Karin - Give her a few more years, feed her some more vegetables and I think we might have the perfect candidate.
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: Slack on August 09, 2010, 07:45:36 PM: I like this thread.

First of all, I'd love to see Kikka added.
She's already proven she has what it takes to rise to the top, since that's exactly what she did during the 8th gen auditions and in the Eggs.
But she's been busy being an actress lately and then there's the pesky age limit. (Which may or may not apply to the Eggs, since they've already passed their auditions.)
In my opinion, she'd be the one Egg that would fit the most with what Morning Musume is currently doing. (Second and third would maybe be Anri and Sengoku?)

...But is that what Tsunku is looking for?

Paring the lineup down to 5 signals to me that Tsunku isn't looking to push on in the same direction. If anything, it's a way to rebuild the group as something fresh.
The 10-17 requirement also says to me that Tsunku wants to go younger/fresher/brighter.
Just look at how that stands up to the previous auditions' age requirements (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_Musume_auditions):
3rd Gen: 7th grade+ (12/13+)
4th Gen: 7th grade+
5th Gen: 7th grade+
6th Gen: 7th-12th grade (12-18)
7th Gen (the one with no winners): 9th grade - 20 years old
7th Gen (Koharu): 7th grade - 22 years old
8th Gen: 7th grade - 21 years old

Going to a limit of 10-17 is, in my mind, a great departure from the previous auditions, especially the last few.
The upper limit of the last three auditions says to me that Tsunku was trying for a more mature look/sound for the group, which we've gotten.
Having the age limits set at 10-17 this time is a huge clue as to what direction he wants to go with the group.
Even if they don't end up getting someone from the lower end of the range, they're still targeting a younger range of applicants than before.

So, with that in mind, I don't think you can count the younger Eggs out just because they don't seem to fit quite right with the current more mature sound.
I just think of newly-joined 4th gen performing songs like Daite HOLD ON ME! along with the older members.
At the time that was a cooler, more mature sound than what was to follow.

That said, KARIN IS BOLD. (Maybe a new catchphrase around here?)
Almost ridiculously so.
Ever since her first introduction, she's left a huge impression on me, which is nothing to sniff at.
At 12, she's just right for the age requirement, taking the younger direction into account.
Plus she's already in Mini Moni, and would serve as Morning Musume's bridge to that group.

Maybe later I'll speculate on some of my other favorite Eggs being put into Morning Musume, but for now, this is my best analysis of the situation.
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: mode107 on August 09, 2010, 08:14:15 PM: Though she's not in the age range, I want to see Sengoku in Morning Musume so baaaaad. Tsunku, please grant me this wish.

Kikka is a good choice as well. When I think of all these eggs and justs annoys to know that Tsunku annouced a 9th audition.

If a 10, 11, or 12 year old gets picked, I'm gonna feel so damn old.
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: Wonderboy on August 09, 2010, 08:32:48 PM: Too wasted atm to really argue here but hell, I can feel that Ayano Satou would be able to make it.
Oh, and Akari Saho, of course !
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on August 09, 2010, 08:37:19 PM: Quote from: Ayabie on August 09, 2010, 07:24:35 PM
First of all, I just want to point out that Komine is no longer an egg, and Sainen is probably leaving (left?) as well... :/
Eeehhhh Komine left??? D: Why's nobody posting this stuff lol I don't go to 2ch so I dunno :/
That kinda sucks, I liked her...
Not surprised about Sainen though

I do hate that all these girls with potential are going to waste gahh
I love Eggs but sometimes I don't understand why they exist if they're just there to basically break your heart when you expect great things and nothing ever comes :( Stupid UFA
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: Slack on August 09, 2010, 10:03:08 PM: Really? I haven't heard anything about Komine and Sainen!

Wasn't Kominecchi just in the Onegai Dakara PV?
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: Ayabie on August 10, 2010, 12:19:53 AM: Supposedly she left some time in June, and the reason for the speculations was because she was nowhere to be found in any upcoming schedules. Apparently the eggs are regarded as "normal people" meaning the agency don't have to announce anything if they choose to leave. Pretty ridiculous.

Which reminds me, I don't recall hearing anything when Aoki Erina quit as well.
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: StephanyLee on August 10, 2010, 09:06:04 AM: Kikkawa Yuu :cow:

'cause she's the only one a know :rofl:

ok... no.....

but yeah she's the only one i know.
I knew is should pay more attention to this eggs way long time ago >.<
Let's go wiki on them :P

Hope Tsunku pics more than 1....... better, let it be more that 3 XDDD

Besides if Kikkawa Yuu gets selected I may still have a bigger chance with MM.
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: Scramasax on August 10, 2010, 05:59:54 PM: I'd say Kikkawa Yuu and Kitahara Sayaka. They already have some experience in the "big time" as part of Milky way. Also, Yuu seems like she was a fan favorite during the 8th gen auditions. I think that's one of the reasons some fans didn't like Aika in the begginning, having "beat her out" for the position. Now Sayaka... is built to sell PBs. :thumbsup
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: mini*wheat on August 10, 2010, 08:05:52 PM: Yuu, Sengoku, and DEFINITELY MORISAKI.

Those three have been my favorite eggs since forever. And have you guys watched Morisaki in concert? She's so bouncy and genuinely excited about everything it seems. I think she'd be PERFECT for Momusu. :heart:
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: NekoMioko on August 12, 2010, 03:38:53 AM: Honestly the only eggs I know are Yuu, Sayaka and Tomomi (but she's 26 already, she can't participate... I like her ;w;) :nervous

I would like any of them make it into Momusu, they were great in Milky Way :3
(and in the 8th generation auditions I was rooting for Yuu xD)
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: writerserenyty on August 12, 2010, 07:03:02 PM: I have some bias here, but I have to root for Sekine Azusa.

I think she has one of the top voices in the H!P Eggs, hell, I'd argue one of the top voices in current H!P. Thus, since MM is losing some great talent in Kamei and LinLin, she'd be able to fill the void. Sekkii is young, so she's able to grow in both talent and in the group (she's 14 right now, I think?) but she also has a really nice traditional beauty about her, so I don't think she'd really stand out because of her age (what a lot of people are worrying about). Also, she doesn't have much experience (background dancing for ManoEri) so the wota wouldn't find that terribly offensive (like they did with Gaki's experience), but she's experienced enough in H!P that I think it wouldn't be a tough transition. Finally, she has a wonderful stage presence, smiling and enjoying herself on stage.

I... don't really want Kikkawa Yuu in. Not because I don't like her; I DO like her (though sometimes she's slightly overrated, IMO). But I really don't want any Eggs joining that are out of the age limit. I just think it would be unfair to any of the 18-year-old girls who wanted to audition but couldn't because they were too old.

But yes, I LOVE watching Sekkii on stage (she has fantastic stage presence that makes me come back to her performances again and again), she has such a sweetheart personality, and I REALLY want her in MM.
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: shurastriker on August 13, 2010, 02:33:52 AM: is there an age limit for the Eggs to join??? i know this is for the 9th audition but apply to eggs too? i wonder...
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: writerserenyty on August 13, 2010, 09:38:45 AM: I don't know if there is, but I kind of do hope that if an Egg IS added that it sticks to the 10-17, in that it would seem too unfair to auditioners and that I think that the age range of this audition indicates an overhaul of MM, making it fresher, newer and younger, and I think an older Egg wouldn't be too good for that goal.
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: kuro808 on August 13, 2010, 09:48:22 AM: IMHO Kikka or Kitahara

But after looking at Akari, I have to agree with Shi and support her but I feel a little scared about adding anyone below 13 in any case, depends on the maturity and what not but those three sounds to be best bets
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on August 14, 2010, 01:35:17 PM: Adding more random options:

wheatie mentioned Morisaki and I do agree that she'd be kewl :3 I keep thinking that she's older (because she's been there for ages) but she is actually 16 and thus perfect age :D She's also genuinely a H!P fan (like Kanyon) and would probably be totally loyal and awesome. She's quirky and cute so yeah! I think she might end up being a supporting member though, I don't see her becoming popular enough to be one of the leads D:

Just came to my mind checking the pics forum, there's also Irori :lol: Somehow totally forgot about her even if a few years back she used to be the one that ppl said would be a star. She's in Shugo Chara Egg, she's pretty amusing and seems to be good at girlbonding (lol), I remember when Takechan joined she was like immediately toying with her haha. She's 13 too, which seems to be an alright age to join Momusu. They've kept her look quite raw and innocent too, so there's room to really bloom and grow to be a beauty imo

I really kind of wish that Konatsu could get in even if she's 18 because she could really fill in for Eri when it comes to dancing, plus she has a really bold personality. Borderline annoying maybe (lol) but funny :P She'd be risky though because even as an Egg she's not one of the most popular ones, I mean her pics almost never get scanned and it's like she doesn't exist etc. But I like her look and stuff. She is also kind of Kei-like because I've noticed other Eggs making fun of her in her presence, and she plays along with it really well lol

To be honest, I could write a speech for almost any Egg on why they are good candidates, excluding the more recent additions because I haven't seen any concert or backstage footage of them :/ I really hope that there'll be another DVD release at the September Egg concert, but not counting on it. But yeah I'm possibly way too biased to be discussing this topic :lol: Cuz to me almost all are great in their own way
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: writerserenyty on August 15, 2010, 05:25:04 AM: Quote from: shirenu on August 14, 2010, 01:35:17 PM
Cuz to me almost all are great in their own way
I think the one remedy for this would be more Egg units, which I'd for sure be up for. I really like most of the Eggs; they all seem so sweet and (at least from the vids I've seen) they legit look like they're having fun on stage and not just "Ugh, I'm better than this, I need to be a STAR"; if that makes sense. H!P Egg concerts are so much fun because all of them look like they're having all sorts of fun even though they're never the focus of attention.
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on August 15, 2010, 09:04:45 AM: ^ Yeah, actually I was going to start a new topic about Egg units :lol: Like what kinds of unit people would like

I just dunno if there will actually be any for a while, since S/mileage debut took forever and they had to do that smile campaign etc. It makes me wonder what the next new unit would have to go through D:
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: writerserenyty on August 16, 2010, 04:47:54 AM: yeah, idk; I mean, they went through so much for their major debut, but at the same time Tsunku has all these talented girls who ought to do SOMETHING.
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: Aioros on August 18, 2010, 11:53:17 AM: If DAWA wasn't in S/mileage, I would have wanted her in Morning Musume. XD

Karin is also an ideal choice; she's lively, cute, talented, talkative and most of all, confident. She can be a great Musume, but not in this gen. Put her in a unit with Takechan, Nanami and Haruka for training the elevate her (or maybe the four of them) to Morning Musume when the time is right.

I'd really want to see Konatsu and Morisaki be more active. They're probably two of the most underrated and underappreciated, yet they both work hard during rehearsals and go all out during the concerts.

tsunkuboy better have plans for these girls. O_o
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: writerserenyty on August 19, 2010, 05:58:33 PM: Sad news for the Kikka/older egg fans:

According to H!O, in Tsunku's blog he wrote that any egg 10-17 is eligible, but they have to ask him to include them in his decision (which is understandable; MM's a lot of work).
(http://ameblo.jp/tsunku-blog/entry-10624104207.html (http://ameblo.jp/tsunku-blog/entry-10624104207.html))

Still, I think that means that Kikkawa and any of the older ones are out of the question unless Tsunku says otherwise.
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: mode107 on August 19, 2010, 07:12:37 PM: ...Screw you Tsunku. I hope he does say otherwise!
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on August 19, 2010, 08:13:01 PM: I thought the older Eggs would have a very slim chance anyway, so this practically makes it non-existent. Well, it could be predicted...

I hope many Eggs have the courage/passion to ask to be included! :O
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: Slack on August 19, 2010, 08:31:26 PM: If anyone has the gumption to throw her hat into the ring, I'd imagine it would be Karin.
Too bad about Kikka, but this wasn't unexpected.

I don't see why most of the eggs wouldn't ask. I mean, if they haven't quit by now, you'd assume they find this kind of work rewarding, no?
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: Wonderboy on August 19, 2010, 09:02:54 PM: Irori would.

She managed to show a lot of motivation and involvement in the live speech I could see.
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: mode107 on August 19, 2010, 09:20:09 PM: Quote from: shirenu on August 19, 2010, 08:13:01 PM
I thought the older Eggs would have a very slim chance anyway
True true. I still had fun speculating when it came to the older eggs.

I've never had any problems with new members entering groups, so I'm sure I'll be accepting of any egg (or audition winner) that makes it.
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: Meania on August 19, 2010, 09:49:52 PM: I could imagine some members not wanting to be in Momusu but rather a soloist or in a new unit XD
Then again if you're "stuck" in H!P Eggs, you'd probably be pretty desperate to break out into the cast of main girls... :lol:

hmmmn poor Tomomi XD;; I was really hoping...
But~ Not gonna happen > u <
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: writerserenyty on August 20, 2010, 10:24:52 AM: Quote from: Slack on August 19, 2010, 08:31:26 PM
I don't see why most of the eggs wouldn't ask. I mean, if they haven't quit by now, you'd assume they find this kind of work rewarding, no?
I assume it must be a contractual thing..? H!P Eggs are really an after school activity; they train,t hey work hard, but they don't really have to do THAAAT much, and they didn't sign up for MM. So I feel like they have to ask for legal reasons, that yes they do give their consent to be put into MM.
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: Slack on August 20, 2010, 10:46:24 AM: It just seems kind of odd to me if that's the case, especially since decisions for who would be in other Egg groups at least seemed to be out of their hands:
S／mileage ～Toe the line～ Part 1/8 DVD HD 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIUkYpUlFyY#ws)

If the major stumbling block is legal, how can they do things like surprise announcements for who was going to be in S/mileage?
Also, according to Manoeri, the decisions to put her in Ongaku Gatas and eventually make her a soloist came as complete surprises to her.

I personally think Tsunku's statements are to tell the public that just because the Eggs are already in Hello! Project, they won't get preferential treatment regarding the Morning Musume audition.
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on August 20, 2010, 10:58:44 AM: It's possible that some of them just WANT to have it as an "after school activity" too, or focus on stage plays, whatever... Even if it feels strange :lol:
Even with this surprise announcements, maybe people like Manoeri and S/mileage just had the kind of deal that if given a chance, they would be willing to go for a major debut. I'd assume that most Eggs have this kind of deal. But some girls might have a different type of contract with the agency, idk

I mean I would assume that usually when people audition for something like Eggs they dream of becoming a star, but some of them may actually not expect that much. It's certainly a fun way to just earn extra pocket money by doing a few lives, plays, maybe backdancing for a PV... I think the Eggs that have already been featured in some actual units are not only the agency's faves, but also the ones who would go for it full time, because they've already shown commitment to being featured in an active releasing unit. The ones that haven't been featured in much (yet) are a bit of a mystery I reckon :O
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: ChrNo on August 20, 2010, 07:51:33 PM: Miyamoto karin ftw

eta : not just because there is "Miya" in her name..right...lol...
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: miki on August 21, 2010, 03:58:24 AM: I think Kikka will join MM, she's popular. Not mentioning the nice voice she has.

Yeah, i also agree with Goto Yuki as candidate. LOL. this girl is a cutie.
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on August 21, 2010, 11:58:41 AM: ^ Goto Yuki from The Possible?? :o
I actually always really liked her look and supported The Possible at first, I even have most of their singles. But in the end I had to give up on the fandom because I just wasn't feeling their songs, they stopped releasing stuff often, and started releasing PBs that were pervier than I like haha. It would actually be a relief to see Yuki in another group, but I really doubt it's going to happen.
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: J-Triumf on August 22, 2010, 02:06:33 AM: Quote from: J-Triumf on August 09, 2010, 12:31:57 AM
if Kikkawa is picked up be prepared for a nonstop barrage of "Yuu and Ai" puns. :twisted:
Quote from: writerserenyty on August 19, 2010, 05:58:33 PM
Sad news for the Kikka/older egg fans:

According to H!O, in Tsunku's blog he wrote that any egg 10-17 is eligible, but they have to ask him to include them in his decision (which is understandable; MM's a lot of work).
(http://ameblo.jp/tsunku-blog/entry-10624104207.html (http://ameblo.jp/tsunku-blog/entry-10624104207.html))

Still, I think that means that Kikkawa and any of the older ones are out of the question unless Tsunku says otherwise.
CURSES! My plans have been foiled!!! XD

Also: it would be really funny if miki actually meant Maki Goto's incarcerated brother. :lol: On a more serious note, I've always wondered what was up with the whole TNX thing and how it's separate from H!P...would it even be possible (no pun intended...okay maybe it was intended) for those girls to be considered eligible since they're still part of UFA?
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM?
Post by: Slack on August 22, 2010, 02:25:24 AM: Not sure.
In previous auditions, I think they had some rule where you couldn't be already under another agency. (or something like that)
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM? One did \o/
Post by: Aioros on January 03, 2011, 09:54:15 AM: Kukuku, only Ayabie guessed that Fukuchan would make it. XD

Definitely unexpected since she's pretty new compared to the other Eggs but I guess we'll have to trust Tsunku's 'idol-sense'.

Kinda feel bad for Akari though. :catglare: Shafted from S/mileage, then denied from MM. What's next? Not allowed to audition for Berryz/C-ute/S/mileage 2nd. gen? Perhaps they wanted someone from the Eggs that is 'raw' compared to Akari. But as long as she's in H!P, performs in Aa!, be Manoeri's background dancer, I'll be happy. (they still owe us an official Yume to Genjitsu PV, goddammit)

Glad to hear that Kikka's going to do some solo work. I never expected her to be put in MM ever, because if they did, it's like they're rectifying their mistake of not putting her there from the beginning. Yuu/You's got the talent and looks to back it up so a solo career is definitely good for her.

There were some pics of some Eggs w/ Tsunku and some idol wrestlers. Hope that's not where their career path is leading to.

...

Who am I kidding? Who wouldn't want to see Sengoku do a dropkick from the top rope? Sayaka spinebuster a punk ass bitch for the 3-count? That's entertainment, folks. And they can sing their own entrance songs to boot. XD

(j/k. I want to see them do more regular idol stuff, or be included in plays...)

---

This, aside from S/mileage, would have been my ideal Egg unit.
(http://a.imageshack.us/img251/3950/egg5.jpg)
But I guess it's all a dream now. :(

In the aftermath of the 9th gen auditions, there are still some of the Eggs waiting in the wings for their chance to come. I doubt that they don't have any plans for these girls, since some of the latest ones they took in (starting from the FukuTakeKane batch) have potential. Some have already been in plays and appeared in Manoeri PV's. The Eggs-on-crack (Nanami+Haruka+Karin), as I have said in another thread, are definitely going to be lethal if put together in a unit. The Eggs veterans (Akari, Sekine, Irori, etc.) have what it takes to become idols. There's no friggin' way they're gonna put these talents to waste. I hope so.

So much Eggs, so many possibilities.

Anyway, congrats again to Fukuchan and the other girls for making it into Morning Musume. Work hard, do your best and have fun! \o/

PS: I like Riho :3 She gives me the same vibe as those anime characters that are always one level ahead the others, like Gary Oak and that character Risako portrays from the Ogamana anime. She's like the perfect Rival for Karin and/or Sayu. :lol:
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM? One did \o/
Post by: Slack on January 03, 2011, 10:26:11 AM: Even though I didn't get around to posting again in this thread about Fukuchan, I'm pretty sure I originally was going to.
But once the finalists were announced, it crystallized in my mind just who might be picked.

Quote from: Slack on December 24, 2010, 10:51:05 AM
What I'd like to see the most though is Kanon and Riho to Morning Musume w/ some egg additions.
As it is, if any of them are picked, it's quite a large age gap between them (11-13) and the next youngest, Mittsy (17).

Who fits the 14-16 age range and does a good job in the Eggs?
SAHO AKARI.
I'm sure Shirenu would LOVE this to happen.
(I'd also like Fukumura Mizuki, but that's just me.)

Just for the record, FUKU YEAH!

After this though, I'm really not sure if we're going to see any future Egg additions to Morning Musume.
I hope I'm wrong, but I get the feeling that if we see anything new with them, it's going to be something along the lines of a new unit.
(I've made my wishes for a Karin/Nanami/Haruka unit known elsewhere.)

But yes, I agree Akari NEEDS a break.
Sadly with the way things are, I don't see any of the existing groups adding her as a new member.
Title: Re: [SPECULATE] Which of the H!P Eggs do you think can make it into MM? One did \o/
Post by: shurastriker on January 09, 2011, 05:56:19 AM: i just wonder if Akari did the trial casting... guess we will never know for real.

Quote from: Slack on January 03, 2011, 10:26:11 AM
After this though, I'm really not sure if we're going to see any future Egg additions to Morning Musume.
Miyamoto Karin might join momusu in the future... lol but in at least 3 years (if she is still in h!p or h!P is still out there), can't see this happening any sooner