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Re: The Idoling!!! 5th generation member audition thread
« Reply #100 on: March 08, 2012, 09:04:22 PM »
Say what? Majority of idoling members really can't sing that well. Hitomi Sakai, Ami Kikuchi, Ai Okawa, Nao Asahi and Yurika Tachibana are not much of a singers, but does that make them NON ace members? Definitely not. Sayaka Kato and Erika Yazawa can't sing, but to many they will always be the all time best/favorite Idoling members. Aces of the group, if you will.
Right, the majority can't sing well, that's why there's only a select few who I regard as aces. You may see variety as idol's primary job but in Japan idols are not expected to be funny. So when I say ace, it refers to the live stage. In such a context, Sakai, Kikuchi, Okawa, Asahi, and Tachibana are not aces, and Kato and Yazawa also weren't aces. I think "favorite" is not synonymous to "ace" at all.

While Kikuchi may have broken into mainstream, her role within Idoling remains as a smart-ass commentary member, not a role I would label as an ace.

Either way, the prospects of Karen doesn't look that promising, she's clearly not a funny type.

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Re: The Idoling!!! 5th generation member audition thread
« Reply #101 on: March 09, 2012, 01:25:20 PM »
You may see variety as idol's primary job but in Japan idols are not expected to be funny.

...What? Idols are supposed to be entertaining, on stage and/or in variety. When a variety program invites an idol as a guest, of course they expect them to be funny. I'm not saying they should act like a clown or anything like that, but clever responses/comments are always appreciated in variety.


Right, the majority can't sing well, that's why there's only a select few who I regard as aces.

That depends on the definition of "ace." For you being able to sing well may be a big part of that, but others may consider an "ace" to be someone who's more all-round.


Either way, the prospects of Karen doesn't look that promising, she's clearly not a funny type.

She's been a member of Idoling for a whopping six days. Let's give her some time.
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Re: The Idoling!!! 5th generation member audition thread
« Reply #102 on: March 09, 2012, 09:39:28 PM »
...What? Idols are supposed to be entertaining, on stage and/or in variety. When a variety program invites an idol as a guest, of course they expect them to be funny. I'm not saying they should act like a clown or anything like that, but clever responses/comments are always appreciated in variety.
Being entertained doesn't equal being funny, musicians are entertainers, are they expected to be funny? No. While idols are referred to as someone with multiple talents, there's very few that are acknowledged for being funny. Idols in general are still called as guests on variety shows for the "pretty face" factor, nothing else. The comedians are the ones who are acknowledged for the funny aspect, and variety specialist talents who are good at talking. I wouldn't say a one word remark or clever answer equals being funny, maybe amusing, interesting if you have to insist. 

That depends on the definition of "ace." For you being able to sing well may be a big part of that, but others may consider an "ace" to be someone who's more all-round.
What's the point of individualizing a term just to fit your definition when the rest of the world doesn't use it that way? There's a reason why the Idoling members only use the term "ace" when referring to Rurika only, they obviously value popularity and singing/dancing far more as an idol than being funny. Even if you use the term to describe an all-rounder, none of the ones mentioned are good enough singers to fit into that description, especially Kikuchi.

She's been a member of Idoling for a whopping six days. Let's give her some time.
I was fortunate enough to watch Karen on other variety shows numerous times, trust me, she is not funny.

Just adding something on Karen just so people won't take it the wrong way, I'm not knocking Karen, it's not like she is trying to be funny and failed, she doesn't even try to be funny, is my point. Karen is a former model, she idolizes Maipuru, in her mind an ideal idol has nothing to do with being funny. Expecting her to be funny down the road is as extreme as saying expecting Asahi to win a Nobel Prize down the road, it's just not in their persona. 
« Last Edit: March 09, 2012, 11:24:57 PM by Jenus »

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Re: The Idoling!!! 5th generation member audition thread
« Reply #103 on: March 14, 2012, 07:02:02 PM »
Do you even watch/like that TV show they are doing (anything non music), or are you into Idoling just because of the music? What's with all the negativity?

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Re: The Idoling!!! 5th generation member audition thread
« Reply #104 on: March 14, 2012, 08:42:09 PM »
Do you even watch/like that TV show they are doing (anything non music), or are you into Idoling just because of the music? What's with all the negativity?
What negativity are you referring to? If you are referring to Karen, I'm just being honest and real, I don't know why not being funny even has to be a negative thing as an idol, most idols aren't funny or try to be funny.

I don't like everything about the show, but most of the fans probably share that sentiment, I honestly can't remember how I first got into Idoling, probably the variety segment or something I came across, then music came later.

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Re: The Idoling!!! 5th generation member audition thread
« Reply #105 on: May 23, 2012, 01:24:45 PM »
Kawakami Manami (51:42), Tanaka Rina (1:08:08), and Ogata Momo (2:46:09) at avex idol street audition


Now I feel current 5th generation is another miracle.

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