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Title: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Foxy Brown on January 21, 2007, 08:05:54 PM
(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1314/bullets6nz.th.png) (http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1314/bullets6nz.png)

This is one of my favorite role-playing games/first person shooters. It looks like we've got a few others here who also like it. Sound off if you're a fan.
Title: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: arun.yothin on January 21, 2007, 09:25:20 PM
I played this on PS2 a few years ago.I liked it, but I got occupied with other games at the time so I stopped playing this. I've thought about trying to play it again, but I just haven't done it yet.
Title: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: maliciel on January 22, 2007, 11:51:55 AM
I played this for a bit. I found it weird as hell how you can't kill a guy if you dont have any points in shooting. Seriously. I'll give it another go.
Title: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: aznanimedude on January 22, 2007, 10:45:19 PM
finally decided to play this game so i torrented the GOTY edition and played it...pretty good i must say
Title: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Foxy Brown on January 23, 2007, 07:05:33 PM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbYTVfM4amc#)
Title: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on January 23, 2007, 11:22:32 PM
Amazing game. And I do mean amazing. The way you can handle any situation, going Rambo or sneaking silently, was pure genius. Even now, with next-gen consoles and years since it's release, there' still nothing that matches it's freedom or scope. The story was one of the best in any video game too. Some of the people I've shown it too found the philosophical/moral dialog boring, but they're the sort of people that like nothing more than cars, guns and tits in their games (not that there's anything wrong with that..)

Does anyone have a video of a conversation between JC and some computer system? I really don't remember much but I remember they were having a debate about if mankind needed God or something along those lines. I remember playing it for the first time and just thought that was really cool that a video game should have dialog as complex as this.

I've been thinking on whether or not to buy the sequel Invisible War. Can anyone give me a recommendation on it? On one hand I've seen a lot of good reviews, but on the other, I've heard it carries a lot of changes that makes the game more mainstream and makes it less engaging than the original (one type of ammo for every gun, and the biomed system is nowhere near as deep). I distinctly remember jumping between rooftops in Hell's Kitchen like Morpheus, and if I can't do that in this, then I ain't interested! :P
Title: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: aznanimedude on January 24, 2007, 08:21:24 AM
XD, yeah the fact taht the ammo was EXTREMELY simplified made me go wtf, it's not as complex, i've only played ito nce i didn't like it as much XD but that's the thing i've only played it once so i might not know as much about it
Title: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Foxy Brown on January 24, 2007, 09:52:32 PM
Quote from: Tuffty;291222
Does anyone have a video of a conversation between JC and some computer system? I really don't remember much but I remember they were having a debate about if mankind needed God or something along those lines. I remember playing it for the first time and just thought that was really cool that a video game should have dialog as complex as this.


I have a transcript. Possible minor spoilers follow:



MORPHEUS: JC Denton. 23 years old. No residence. No ancestors. No employer. No --

JC DENTON: How do you know who I am?

MORPHEUS: I must greet each visitor with a complete summary of his file. I am a prototype for a much larger system.

JC DENTON: What else do you know about me?

MORPHEUS: Everything that can be known.

JC DENTON: Go on. Do you have proof about my ancestors?

MORPHEUS: You are a planned organism, the offspring of knowledge and imagination rather than of individuals.

JC DENTON: I'm engineered. So what? My brother and I suspected as much while we were growing up.

MORPHEUS: You are carefully watched by many people. The unplanned organism is a question asked by Nature and answered by death. You are another kind of question with another kind of answer.

JC DENTON: Are you programmed to invent riddles?

MORPHEUS: I am a prototype for a much larger system. The heuristics language developed by Dr. Everett allows me to convey the highest and most succinct tier of any pyramidal construct of knowledge.

JC DENTON: How about a report on yourself?

MORPHEUS: I was a prototype for Echelon IV. My instructions are to amuse visitors with information about themselves.

JC DENTON: I don't see anything amusing about spying on people.

MORPHEUS: Human beings feel pleasure when they are watched. I have recorded their smiles as I tell them who they are.

JC DENTON: Some people just don't understand the dangers of indiscriminate surveillance.

MORPHEUS: The need to be observed and understood was once satisfied by God. Now we can implement the same functionality with data-mining algorithms.

JC DENTON: Electronic surveillance hardly inspired reverence. Perhaps fear and obedience, but not reverence.

MORPHEUS: God and the gods were apparitions of observation, judgment, and punishment. Other sentiments toward them were secondary.

JC DENTON: No one will ever worship a software entity peering at them through a camera.

MORPHEUS: The human organism always worships. First it was the gods, then it was fame (the observation and judgment of others), next it will be the self-aware systems you have built to realize truly omnipresent observation and judgment.

JC DENTON: You underestimate humankind's love of freedom.

MORPHEUS: The individual desires judgment. Without that desire, the cohesion of groups is impossible, and so is civilization. The human being created civilization not because of a willingness but because of a need to be assimilated into higher orders of structure and meaning. God was a dream of good government. You will soon have your God, and you will make it with your own hands.
Title: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on January 25, 2007, 02:37:50 PM
^ Thanks Foxy! Don't know why, I just thought it was a cool scene in an already cool game. :D
Title: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: aznanimedude on January 25, 2007, 04:43:47 PM
wow cool scene XD, that's pretty deep
Title: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Foxy Brown on January 25, 2007, 09:42:44 PM
And who could forget this little exchange?

ANNA NAVARRE: Are you sure you pressed the right button?

GUNTHER HERMANN: I do not make mistakes of that kind.

ANNA NAVARRE: Your hand might have slipped.

GUNTHER HERMANN: No. I wanted orange. It gave me lemon-lime.

ANNA NAVARRE: The machine would not make a mistake...

GUNTHER HERMANN: It's the maintenance man. He knows I like orange.

ANNA NAVARRE: So you think the staff has some kind of plot...

GUNTHER HERMANN: Yes. They do it on purpose.


And for those of you currently playing the game, here's a mod I made:
Foxy Brown's Deep Pockets Mod (http://www.sendspace.com/file/mwvyp1)
Just replace the DeusEx.u file in your DeusEx\system folder with the one here. (You should probably back up the original first.) This mod makes it so that every item takes up only one square in your inventory and raises the limit of ammo and stacked items to 65500. No longer do you need to choose between the GEP gun, the plasma rifle, or the flame thrower. It also allows augmentation upgrade cannisters to stack, in case you want to save some up for a future augmentation.
Title: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: aznanimedude on January 25, 2007, 11:30:50 PM
very nice foxy thank you XD
Title: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on January 25, 2007, 11:55:59 PM
Just looking up quotes for Deus Ex on IMDB and I forgot just how funny and badass, JC can be: (spoilers, kinda)

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Walton Simons: You take another step forward and here I am again, like your own reflection in a hall of mirrors.
JC Denton: That makes me one ugly son of a bitch.

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Bob Page: Soon, I will become pure energy. I will burn like the brightest star.
JC Denton: You're gonna burn, all right.

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JC Denton: [to a guest in a French hostel] How are the drinks here?
Various Characters: Great, if you like rat piss.
JC Denton: Never tried it.
Title: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Foxy Brown on January 27, 2007, 05:43:49 PM
WALTON SIMONS: You need a Universal Constructor, and don't think Page Industries is going to leave one lying around for you to use, not after you blew up the one in Hong Kong.

JC DENTON: I was never properly trained in its operation.
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Shin Asuka on April 16, 2007, 04:51:25 PM
JC DENTON: Laputan Machine.

GUNTHER HERMANN: I am not a machine...

*BOOM*

My most favourite scene in the entire game. :D
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Foxy Brown on April 16, 2007, 05:20:19 PM
JC DENTON: Laputan Machine.

GUNTHER HERMANN: I am not a machine...

JC DENTON: Sticks and stones...

*BOOM*
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Shin Asuka on April 18, 2007, 04:42:16 PM
Thanks for the correction.  O0

It's been 5 years since I last played this. This calls for a reinstall. ;D
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on May 18, 2007, 06:22:01 PM
Could another game be in development? Or is it Chinese whispers? (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=76540)

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The boss of Eidos' new Montreal Studio recently sparked rumours that a new Deus Ex is in development.

Patrick Melchior told French-language television station MusiquePlus (translated by IGN) that his "first mission" was to revitalise the fantastic action role-playing game series. But he wouldn't say anything more than that.
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on November 26, 2007, 07:10:59 PM
Put on your sunglasses and long coat:

Deus Ex 3 is coming (http://www.eidosmontreal.com/en/games.html)

:w00t: :w00t:
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Foxy Brown on November 26, 2007, 07:25:32 PM
A bomb! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG1qKzIsisU#)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Foxy Brown on February 13, 2008, 08:46:25 AM
Great Moments in Videogame Voice Acting: Deus Ex (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kihGm4KfY7k#)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Foxy Brown on March 17, 2008, 09:21:05 PM
jc denton is a dick (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DAPXMZk2iw#)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: jambo3001 on April 01, 2008, 03:29:48 PM
 :w00t: for Deus Ex... :thumbdown: for that awful 2nd game that I never even gave a chance XD

but yeah, my old comp wouldn't play it so I spent nearly £1000 on a comp just to play it...but it was SOOOO worth it!!!

That game was just beyond belief! I never realised it was that deep until a while ago when I finally finished it lol...
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on October 25, 2008, 03:22:02 PM
"Deus Ex was kina slow" says Deus Ex 3 developer (http://www.edge-online.com/news/deus-ex-was-%E2%80%9Ckinda-slow%E2%80%9D-says-deus-ex-3-dev)

And taken from another source:

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This said, they are doing their utmost to please newcomers as well as existing fans. Perhaps controversially this time around combat won't be influenced by stats, but will rely purely on your personal marksmanship skills. Instead stats will influence "a vast array of fully upgradeable and customisable weapons", and you'll be able to tailor your arsenal to your play style with mag upgrades, scopes and other add-ons.

What's more, stealth will now rely on a cover system rather than shadows, and damage will be dealt with by a very Call of Duty-style auto-heal. There's probably going to be some debate over those two.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=198546&site=cvg

The signs aren't looking good.
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on November 09, 2009, 01:12:20 AM
[youtube=425,350]kihGm4KfY7k[/youtube].

Paris Voice Acting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP6Nuf2lq0w#normal)

Been thinking about Deus Ex a lot lately and for no apparent reason. I wished I hadn't sold my PS2 copy now. I mean, after browsing random Youtube videos, I'm still finding new scenes I hadn't seen before.

I particularly love the scene when speaking with the Morpheus AI. Can be completely missed but for those who dig further into the story like myself, it's wonderful dialogue, with the music only adding to the scene. For the 3 mins of dialog Morpheus has, he (or it) is for me at least, a rather chilling character. Not a religious person by any means, but to hear a self-aware AI program trivializing God as almost a beta test for a more efficient system gives me the willies.

Morpheus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COwfIhvRtNw#normal)

A classic. As much as a HD remake would have me drooling from the mouth, it's never gonna happen, and thinking about it, nor would I want it too.
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Foxy Brown on January 23, 2010, 12:31:39 AM
I started playing through the first only one again recently.

Nicolette DuClare took me to the home of her recently murdered mother to look for clues on how to contact one of her friends. As I was looking through the house, she mentioned that her mother had imported the sofa from Portugal at great cost because it had once belonged to a royal family.

I smashed it to pieces with a crowbar.

She told me that wasn't funny.
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on January 23, 2010, 03:52:46 PM
"Son of a!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgOKduU05t4#)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Foxy Brown on January 29, 2010, 09:05:17 PM
Deus Ex Yakety Sax (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cenmlaW8qiU#)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Amplifier on April 21, 2010, 07:17:04 PM
it's on sale @ steam (http://store.steampowered.com/sub/296/)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on June 05, 2010, 01:26:17 AM
Deus Ex: Human Revolution NEW "They Can't Stop The Future" E3 2010 Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FRWYRqaGFE#ws)

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Square Enix has released a brand new cinematic trailer introducing us to the world of Deus Ex: Human Revolution.

The trailer, which you can watch below, and from which we've captured a large number of still images, introduces us to Adam Jensen and the world of 2027.

Events in the game take place 25 years before the original Deus Ex, so biomechanical augmentations are all the rage with nanotechnological updates still some way off.

The game is set across five metropolises including Detroit, Shanghai and Montreal - home in the present day to developer Eidos Montreal, of course - and will be released for PC, PS3 and Xbox 360 in early 2011.

Interesting interview about the game here (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/deus-ex-human-revolution-e3-2010-trailer)

Nice looking trailer but obviously it's all CGI so I'm still holding out hope. The comments I heard earlier in the year of wanting to make DX3 more like a traditional FPS is disheartening. To me, it looks like it suffers from prequels for other series like Star Wars/Star Trek etc, in that for a prequel supposedly set 25 years before the events of the original Deus Ex, the technology looks far superior. Granted Deus Ex didn't run on systems as powerful as we have now but still.
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on June 11, 2010, 02:11:54 PM
I encourage everyone to read the preview that Eurogamer has posted (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/deus-ex-human-revolution-preview). It makes me more optimistic for the game than I had thought:

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And that - somewhat early on in what will be a glowing preview of Deus Ex: Human Revolution, by the way - is the message I want to convey. This is, recognisably and joyfully, a true Deus Ex game - we can stop worrying and start tentative negotiation with the hype train.

When you see the game in motion you find yourself breathing sigh of relief after sigh of relief at the tiniest of things - from the way the screen looks after you've hacked a computer and are fiddling with security feeds, to the way a strength augmentation will let you pick up boxes that are in your path.

Sure, a 20-minute preview presentation of the nerfed and agoraphobic Deus Ex: Invisible War may well have featured box movement and correctly represented CCTV too - but with DX3 you can't escape the feeling that Eidos Montreal knows what made the original such a classic, and the follow-up a disappointment in comparison.

They also did another article interviewing several people involved in the production team asking a number of questions on the game itself and fan service. (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/deus-ex-fan-service-article?page=1) So expect to see in Human Revolution, some hints of music used in Deus Ex, returning characters with the same voice actors, and using the code 0451 to open a door. :D
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Amplifier on June 23, 2010, 12:45:05 AM
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PC Gaming News site Rock, Paper, Shotgun reminds us that June 22nd marks the 10-year birthday of the hit Deus Ex. In celebration, Both Deus Ex titles are on sale for 75% off for just 24 hours.

Offer ends 3pm Pacific time on June 23rd.

http://store.steampowered.com/sub/296/ (http://store.steampowered.com/sub/296/)
http://store.steampowered.com/news/3972/ (http://store.steampowered.com/news/3972/)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on August 13, 2010, 07:21:39 PM
First gameplay trailer:

Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Full Gameplay Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi_ZhvU1bPc#ws)

Looking good! :drool:
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on September 17, 2010, 06:19:09 PM
The TGS trailer

TGS 10: A New Man Trailer - Deus Ex: Human Revolution (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tgs-10-deus-ex/704605)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on November 19, 2010, 01:04:20 AM
New trailer showing off some of the combat:

Trailer (http://kotaku.com/5691183/deus-ex-human-revolutions-remote-killing-and-elbow-sword)

Looking good!
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on December 10, 2010, 01:05:33 PM
Ok so there's no gameplay footage in this new trailer but good lord I am excited. :fap

Deus Ex: Human Revolution extended trailer [HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZRYROjQPoI#ws)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Amplifier on December 21, 2010, 04:47:06 AM
You can currently purchase Deus Ex, and Deus Ex: Invisible War on Steam for $6.99 together, or $5 a piece: http://store.steampowered.com/sub/296/ (http://store.steampowered.com/sub/296/)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Stryfe on December 21, 2010, 10:19:39 AM
Here, the pack is actually just 2.69€. :shocked:
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on February 05, 2011, 10:54:19 AM
New trailer for Human Revolution (http://www.giantbomb.com/black-and-gold-cyborg-business-in-deus-ex-human-revolution/17-3753/)

Looks incredible and after reading this preview (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-02-03-deus-ex-human-revolution-hands-on), I'm only more excited for it.
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on March 21, 2011, 07:47:37 PM
A vid showing how one scenario can have multiple approaches

Sarif Exterior Multipath Gameplay Walkthrough - Deus Ex: Human Revolution (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/sarif-exterior-deus-ex/711970)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on June 11, 2011, 05:44:31 PM
There's a PC preview out now and someone found a little Easter Egg. Shows that the FF series is still going strong even in a futuristic dystopia :lol:

(http://clip2net.com/clip/m40331/1306905788-clip-192kb.jpg)

Also, a video of why this game looks a lot like the first Deus Ex, and shows why the new guy maybe more of a dick than JC Denton :lol: :lol:

Deus Ex 3 Bitchslapping Montage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYpuzHyEY8Q#)

Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on July 07, 2011, 04:49:37 PM
Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Director Commentary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73GqUqRetxY#ws)

I see quite a few comments from everyday people and the press, and they seem to be American ones' who are denouncing the game already. Don't see why, I think it looks awesome. The background outside the tower looks impressive.
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on July 22, 2011, 08:34:51 PM
Mega64: DEUS EX TRIBUTE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js02m-7qHyE#ws)

:lol:
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on July 23, 2011, 08:44:56 PM
This is a seriously cool trailer

Deus Ex: Human Revolution - SDCC 2011: Purity First Live Action (German Subtitles) | OFFICIAL | HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjRkYwD2sls#ws)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on August 07, 2011, 11:00:47 AM
I am hugely excited for this game. Early reviews have come in and have been overwhelmingly positive.


Now granted, these are early reviews, meaning they can't always be trust worthy, but regardless I always have been looking forward to this game since I saw it and the trailers have done a great job in building up excitement. Best of all, it's out this month.

Til then, how about some ball tripping scenes from the Deus Ex Malkavian mod

Deus Ex : The Philosophical Degeneracy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZtea9XsPt4#)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on August 20, 2011, 01:41:51 PM
Human Revolution is out next week. I'm excited for it, I've a feeling it can be really good. Here's the first 10 mins of the actual game.

Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Walkthrough: Introduction - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd26Q2KQXL8#ws)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on August 24, 2011, 10:54:10 PM
My copy arrived today! Nicely done in time for my 4 day weekend starting Fri! Playing the first hour and it looks promising. After listening to the Giant Bombcast today I didn't explore the Sarif Industry building as much as I would have liked. Basically, after the prologue/tutorial section, you're told by your boss to get your ass over to the helipad so you can be taken to a lab where a hostage situation with terrorists was developing. Jeff had said that he messed around in there for a while exploring until he was told that things were getting way worse, so he was wondering if that had some impact on the story. Thought I would try it out myself. So far so good XD

From what I've played, it seems like a Deus Ex game, things kind of move at a pace at the beginning so I haven't really been able to take in my surroundings and read more about the world, but obviously I will be able to the further I go into it. The cover mechanics and the shooting seems functional, just don't ever use blindfire, even at point blank range it's not effective. There are absolutely those moments where you can decide which path to take. For example, at the beginning you're told you can infiltrate the plant through the front door or the roof. Whilst trying to find the path to the roof, I actually found a path you can crawl through which leads you practically at the front door and you can sneak in when the guard moves on patrol. So you can go in all guns blazing through the front, or stealthily on the roof, I actually went stealthily through the front XD You also know it's a Deus Ex game when you can pick up a cardboard box, throw it at a police officer and they then consider you hostile and kill you :lol:

The Metal Gear Solid references are very overt. Not only do the bosses look and act like members out of say FOXHOUND, there is an achievement in that game called 'The Foxiest Of Hounds'. Apparently there are other achievements like 'The Snake' and 'The Mantis' :lol: Quick tip, if you want an easy achievement, in the room you start off in, make sure to look around for objects you can interact with e.g. 'Press X', think there might be 4-5 in all. Press X on them all and you get an achievement :D Some achievements look ridiculous! Go through the whole game without setting off an alarm? Go through the game without killing anyone? :o
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on September 11, 2011, 10:13:46 PM
Just arrived in Heng Sha and one of the side quests I stumbled upon involves having to find a hooker somewhere in a place called Daigong District. A Red Light District named after Daigong? Sounds about right :lol:

Awesome game so far. Playing it very stealthily, don't even want to get seen at all, resorting to lethal force only if I have to (I've already killed someone in the tutorial so I'm not getting that achievement to go the whole game without killing someone). Had one of those wonderful moments where you walk into Jensen's apartment for the first time. Very reminiscent of Blade Runner. It's great how much freedom the game gives you, I can kill anyone at anytime if need be. One time I was wrapping up for the night and after making a save, I wondered what it would be like to go crazy, and I just felt like the biggest asshole afterwards. Here's a retired detective living out his days as a security guard in this apartment and then this guy comes along and stabs him from behind as he's sitting in the chair. Or this couple after going through a traumatic experience in a hostage situation, the husband close to death from a bomb and the wife even closer after being held at gunpoint by a crazed terrorist. Both reunited in their apartment and happy to be together at last, then some dick like me comes along and throws a frag grenade in their apartment :lol:

I will say this though, the boss battles are just the worst, like everyone's been saying. As someone who's not been focusing on upgrading their combat capabilities I found it pretty hard, it's easy to get killed. And the boss shows no sign of taking damage so you're left just trying to pump bullets into him until it's over. Could have been handled better for sure.
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: daigong on September 12, 2011, 01:40:48 AM
LOLWUT. Asmo, let's sue em for defamation :o.....

Let's Play Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Part 31: Hung Hao Hotel. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM95jp6vQNA#ws)

no wait. Tufft showed me at 7:00 THESE BOOBS :fap
(http://picroda.jphip.com/misc/jphip04134.jpg)

I approve :lol:

...looks like the programmers had a play on words "Hung Hao Hotel" where Hao means good LOL
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: togusa on September 12, 2011, 09:11:56 AM
Tried not killing anyone at all, but it's just too hard D: D:
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Erusa on October 06, 2011, 02:01:14 PM
Ended up doing a mix of killing and taking down. By the time I got to near the end, it was just like... I give up. *hack into turrets to kill people*
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Deft-Monkey on October 08, 2011, 05:45:39 AM
I was asking my friend about this series last week and he was telling me that in the first game, you could choose to be a pacifist and just incapacitate enemies without actually killing them? In any case, it definitely sounds interesting and I might check it out one day.
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on October 08, 2011, 09:00:18 AM
Your friend's absolutely true. The first game had as equally bad boss battles as in Human Revolution as well, but the trick was that if you were good at exploring the environment or you select your dialog choices correctly, there was a way you could bypass those boss battles completely.

You can be a pacifist in the latest one too, in fact there's an achievement in the game for not killing anyone (except in the boss fights which you have to kill). This is me being nitpicky, but I wish there was a better reason to choose between using non-lethal and lethal takedowns. Because if you go lethal, you take your foes down permanently but it makes a lot of noise. With a non-lethal takedown, you take your foes down permanently, but it makes no noise. So why would you ever want to choose lethal takedowns if there are no in-game benefits or achievements tied for doing so? Seems like an obvious choice to make if non-lethal provides the same effect but one that makes the game easier for you as well as possibly winning an achievement. If it were up to me, if you perform a non-lethal takedown it should only knock the person down for a time before they get up again. You can see this working even in MGS2 so I'd like to see it done here. Although I will say it's probably a nightmare to code and test because of so many variables that happen in the game. Like how could a guard get up again if you drag their body into a vent (like I've done!)?
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on November 27, 2011, 09:44:48 PM
Encountered this ridiculous difficulty spike in the game. And it's all my fault.

*GAMEPLAY SPOILERS*

Have to fight the leader of this game's FOXHOUND equivalent now but I've been royally fucked over. Because I had decided earlier to visit a LIMB clinic when they told me to get a new biochip put in. And because of that, the bitch in charge of Tai Yong hit a kill switch in the chip that completely messes me up, making my HUD go crazy and difficult to see anything. So a boss fight that's already hard considering that you can get shot to death so quick, just got a lot harder because I can't see. So take my advice, when they ask you to visit the LIMB clinic and get a new biochip put in, DON'T DO IT! :lol:

I gave up after trying about 5 times. Will do it again later. Neat idea though, nice of a game to reward you by not blindly following objectives. That's me told! Still a cool game though, my guy feels like a complete badass.
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: frblckstr1 on November 28, 2011, 06:26:58 PM
^ Read that on the wiki while browsing what the bosses where. I had a very hard time taking down the first (Berreth) for some reason. I thought I could wait him out/evade, but no dice and for several tries (in several days) I could not find a way to take him down. Very frustrating!

Now I know you need to handle the bosses totally different  :)
Its fun again after that, played it for 6 hours yesterday with just a small break  :grin:
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: frblckstr1 on December 09, 2011, 06:57:39 PM
So finished DX3 just yesterday, might try to play the alternate endings to finish it of.

In the end the bosses where easy if you have heavy firepower available, took me only two tries for the second and third boss (and one for the last)

The game has been fun for a lot of hours of game play :)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on December 10, 2011, 01:23:22 PM
Just finished it there now. I like to think I made the 'good' ending

*ENDING SPOILERS*

I destroyed the Panchea project and will let humanity decide how to advance.

I really enjoyed the game, extremely reminiscent of Metal Gear Solid and it had an interesting story that made you think. Would definately recommend it.
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Amplifier on December 30, 2011, 08:10:15 PM
Deus Ex 3 is on sale today on Steam, for $16.99 (http://store.steampowered.com/app/28050/)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Asmodai on January 02, 2012, 08:22:52 PM
Deus Ex 3 is on sale today on Steam, for $16.99 (http://store.steampowered.com/app/28050/)

Bought myself a copy. I'll save it till I beat Skyrim though.
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Foxy Brown on January 04, 2012, 06:50:04 PM
Deus Ex Malkavian Mod-Conversation with Carter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1HE6tw-W4I#)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: winner on January 07, 2012, 04:38:37 AM
Started playing.

Funny moment. After disabling the bomb and talking with the first hostage.
I went to save. Pressed "B" a few too many times, so I went out of the options screen and gave her a take-down (=punched her in the face...)
I see this happening a lot in the future :P

Still not used to the controls.
I want to snipe tranqs, but I wish it auto went to zoomed mode, because it doesn't have an aim-spot otherwise. I end up looking over corners and stupidly stare at them.

And I hate the doors of the future, they close way too quick. Especially for guys who naturally move back after opening doors. 8)
People could lose an arm from those things... gah! it's a LIMB conspiracy! :angry:
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: frblckstr1 on January 07, 2012, 08:20:45 AM
Funny moment. After disabling the bomb and talking with the first hostage.
I went to save. Pressed "B" a few too many times, so I went out of the options screen and gave her a take-down (=punched her in the face...)
I see this happening a lot in the future :P
Had that once happen when I was with a wapon sales guy ... don't!, it's a very bad thing to do then :)

I might buy me the DLC this weekend, just to see what they made of it.
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: frblckstr1 on January 10, 2012, 06:41:30 PM
So, finished the DLC (The Missing Link) was actually not bad at all: played thru it in almost one go (left the Boss fight till the next day)

This time the end boss was a little different, getting to him was the main challenge.
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Foxy Brown on January 17, 2012, 08:57:15 AM
DEUS EX IS THE BEST GAME EVER - Epic AI Battle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnJqAcq7IWs#ws)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Foxy Brown on April 20, 2012, 03:23:14 PM
A bomb! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG1qKzIsisU#)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/dfk6ty.jpg)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Foxy Brown on July 19, 2012, 12:27:44 AM
A BOMB! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg2oVpUONP0#)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: pootsy on October 24, 2014, 11:55:28 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/e71pgVT.gif)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: pootsy on November 17, 2014, 07:19:16 AM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-11-16-ion-storms-lost-deus-ex-sequels (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-11-16-ion-storms-lost-deus-ex-sequels)
Title: Re: You can't fight ideas with bullets. (The official Deus Ex thread)
Post by: Tuffty on August 20, 2016, 04:32:27 PM
Mankind Divided comes out next week. Reviews are mostly positive, the only negative being that the story isn't as good which is a shame.