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General => Entertainment => Movies => Topic started by: claymore on July 23, 2008, 03:20:30 PM
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http://www.ifmagazine.com/new.asp?article=6571 :banghead:
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What does the Matrix, A Scanner Darkly, The Devil's Advocate, Constantine, The Lakehouse, and Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey have in common? ... they were all have producer credit by Erwin Stoff. And all star Keanu Reeves. I do not want Keanu Reeves mixed up with Cowboy Bebop.
QFT. I personally don't wish to see Keanu as Spike.
Having said that, you don't really have to do all that much to make Cowboy Bebop accessible to a Western audience. All it needs is a good cast and script. I'm kinda 50/50 on the whole thing at the minute.
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Sheesh, another one....... they just can't leave well enough alone, can they?
Bebops a classic, as far as I'm concerned, so I really wouldn't want to see it touched by hollywood and made into a live action... unless it is done right from the get go, but in all honesty, I don't want to see Keanu as Spike, either.
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You know, I never mind Hollywood re-making stuff anymore (we have to face it, they're running out of ideas), as long as they get a damn good script and cast and manage to pull it off.
But Keanu...? Not sure how to react to that yet.
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Keanu is an underrated actor. It's too early to pass judgment in my opinion.
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Keanu is an underrated actor. It's too early to pass judgment in my opinion.
Definitely, I like him as an actor, I'm just unsure for now about him taking on this role.
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Yes Keanu's underrated and probably more renowned for saying 'woah' than from any of his acting roles, but as a Bebop fan, I don't think he's suited to play Spike. Besides I don't think anyone's been casted, just pointing out what I like to call a coinky-dink (coincidence :D)
Sheesh, another one....... they just can't leave well enough alone, can they?
Yeah it's just the way Hollywood is I'm afraid. This, Death Note, Akira, Ghost In The Shell, Dragonball plus the game-movie adaptations that are springing out of the ground. Just have to hope at least one of them will be decently filmed.
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I'm not so much worried about Keanu as I am the music. Yoko Kanno's music helped make that series and anything different would totally kill it, imo. Especially if they go and westernize it.
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I like Keanu, not sure about him playing Spike, but I'd give him a chance. Hopefully they keep the feel of the series intact (music and all especially, like mini said).
But fuuuuuck, why must they do this with something so perfect?
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Keanu is way too surfer dude to be Spike. He was never able to play the "cool" guy that well.
But the idea is very plausible. The series was all about style anyways, and as long as they don't break away from it, I could see this turning out better than what people expect. Other than that, they need to get a good design team and CG company(which doesn't seem like a problem considering past projects) and as mini*wheat said get Yoko Kanno into this, or it will be total fail.
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I could care less about the movie, but if they get Yoko Kanno to to do the soundtrack I will be all over that like white on rice.
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This is interesting. Cowboy Bebop was a wonderful anime.
re: Keanu Reeves,
Ever since Heath Ledger was called in to be the Joker, I will never doubt someone's acting ability again until i see the performance. Is he really spike? i don't think i saw it in the article.
I wonder who's gonna play Faye Valentine =)
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Update with info from imdb. Erwin Stoff: "Manager of Keanu Reeves (since Reeves was 16)", one of the producers of The Day the Earth Stood Still remake with Keanu, and producer of 12 Keanu Reeves movies. I think Keanu is pretty much cast for this. They can make it a very stylish movie with almost anyone "hot" right now, mess with the characters, add a r&b, hip hop, and maybe some jazz soundtrack and people will love it. This will probably be for people who never saw the show or movie.
I predict Abigail Breslin as edward for marketing reasons. Charlize Theron, Angelina Jolie or Halle Berry as Faye. Brian Cox or Harrison Ford as Jet. A cg creation as ein. Keanu as Spike. Music by Branford Marsalis, Wynton Marsalis, Timbaland, Pharell, Herbie Hancock or maybe Gabriela Robin.
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Charlize Theron, Angelina Jolie or Halle Berry as Faye. Brian Cox or Harrison Ford as Jet.
You'd be kidding yourself if you think you're getting big names such as those for a movie like this. Any anime or game to live action film conversion tends to attract actors already versed in, shall we say, 'geek' culture so you're looking at actors in sci-fi films or TV before. If you ask me, you're looking at names like Kristen Kreuk (Smallville, Street Fighter) or Mila Kunis (Family Guy, Max Payne) for Faye, and say maybe Ron Perlman as Jet (though thinking about it, he wouldn't be such a bad casting IMO)
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ron perlman as jet could totally work. keanu as spike is epic fail. kreuk and kunis are hot, but are NOT faye.
if they want a good movie script just take the bebop movie and make it live-action
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Music must be bebop, or at least some kind of jazz. Otherwise the whole concept won't work.
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I most definitely agree with that.
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I was not being serious about the casting just imagining how off the casting would be. Charlize did Aeon Flux, Angelina did Wanted and Tomb Raider, and Halle did Catwoman so they are not super picky about roles. Brian Cox does tons of movies. The movie can have a horrible script and bad cast but still do well if people like the effects, music and at least one of the actors.
A Timbaland and Pharrell soundtrack would be enough for most movie fans. Did anyone notice that I mentioned this "Erwin Stoff: "Manager of Keanu Reeves (since Reeves was 16)", one of the producers of The Day the Earth Stood Still remake with Keanu, and producer of 12 Keanu Reeves movies. I think Keanu is pretty much cast for this."
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Honestly I never understood the hype about CB. It's an ok anime, surely above average but still I don't get it.
Maybe a flat characterized actionpacked hollywood remake is what I need to finally convince me of the greatness of the show ^^i
But I can't see Keanu as Spike either.
And for Faith you all overlooked the No.1 Geek Actress predestined to play all female kick-ass tough girl with gun characters in this genre: Milla Jovovich XD
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milla could not play FAYE. Faye's tits are bigger than milla's whole body XD
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A Timbaland and Pharrell soundtrack would be enough for most movie fans.
ummm, well, in my personal opinion, that would suck donkey balls. Totally doesn't fit the atmosphere of Cowboy Bebop. Its not CB without the Jazz.
Just imagine, Spike sees Vicious, a chase scene ensues, and then you hear Drop it Like It's Hot =) er, no =P
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milla could play FAYE. Faye's tits are bigger than milla's whole body XD
Oopsie, my bad, Faye of course
(haha I'm on a Mirror's Edge trip so it's Faith everywhere for me xD)
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The whole Keanu as Spike rumour is picking up steam... (http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/07/30/rumor-keanu-reeves-as-spike-in-cowboy-bebop-movie/)
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All's I can say is... EGADS~!!
Then seeing some of the other animes mentioned in that article.......... Hollywood should well enough alone.
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http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/12/17/keanu-reeves-eager-to-do-something-good-with-cowboy-bebop-movie/ Keanu is now talking about the concept for the movie.
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http://twitchfilm.net/site/view/is-there-hope-for-keanu-reeves-adaptation-of-cowboy-bebop/
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Keanu has the best agent ever =P He gets all the good roles.
Quite honestly, i don't mind him being Spike.
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Maybe if he pulls this off, I'll forgive him for his portrayal of John Constantine.
Maybe.
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Cowboy Bebop is Apparently 'Too Awesome' for Fox to Make
So we know that Keanu Reeves is still attached to play Spike Spiegel in a live-action Cowboy Bebop movie, whenever it gets made. However, what we don't know is how far along in the process the project is, especially since it doesn't have a director attached. Reeves updated MTV recently and revealed that it hasn't moved forward because Fox is concerned over the budget. Here's what he had to say: "There's a draft of the script, but the writer did such a great job [that] in order to make the movie, you would need half a billion dollars." I just love that quote. Was it really that awesome or did they just throw in as much as they could?
Apparently that writer is Peter Craig, who's been talking about the Cowboy Bebop movie for a while. To continue what Reeves was saying: "So the studio went, 'This movie is fantastic and it would cost half a billion dollars,' so he's doing a rewrite." And in terms of who (character-wise) is in it, well, Reeves says, "everyone is in there." Well that sounds like literally everyone and everything in the series. Why else would it cost to $500 million?! "The only challenge was to make a satisfying western narrative out of the kind of storytelling that happens. There's a great draft, so we're just trying to pull it back a little bit now."
I love that quote because I know it's some Fox exec just sitting there being like "we don't need this or that in a Cowboy Bebop movie." I doubt it would really cost $500 million, but they're probably thinking it needs to cost less than $100, when they don't realize that there is a huge following and it could make a lot of money if done right. And by done right, not only does that mean hiring a good director and screenwriter, but it also means not cutting down the budget like this just because the execs don't understand the potential.
http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/09/23/cowboy-bebop-is-apparently-too-awesome-for-fox-to-make/ (http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/09/23/cowboy-bebop-is-apparently-too-awesome-for-fox-to-make/)
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Makes sense not to throw that amount of cash at an adaptation of an anime that has a cult following.
I would still prefer not to see any movie at all if I'm honest.
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I don't have the faith in hollywood to do it properly. Just let Bebop be man, just let it be.
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Didn't Fox do the Dragonball movie?
Yeah, I'm not holding my breath for this one to be any good.
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Oh god no :cry: