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Re: (Group) Ebisu Muscats
« Reply #1200 on: October 25, 2012, 03:13:20 AM »
Alright since TeriyakiBoi and initial can't get enough Airi Kijima...






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Re: (Group) Ebisu Muscats
« Reply #1201 on: October 26, 2012, 09:33:14 AM »
I don't have an iPhone but damn I wouldn't might Saemi on the back of my iPhone
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Re: (Group) Ebisu Muscats
« Reply #1202 on: October 26, 2012, 12:14:51 PM »
L4verra, thanks...How else can US-JPN relations be strengthened?  AV-idols.

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Re: (Group) Ebisu Muscats
« Reply #1203 on: October 26, 2012, 03:51:59 PM »
As long as the dude(s) have a huge unit, then it's all good.
Last thing the AV wants is a black guy to be in an AV with someone. Cocomi Sakura did it...it didn't turn out too well.

You'll have to point me to whatever video that was. I've been following Cocomi's work for a long time (dat body), and I don't recall her doing any interracial with S1 or Ideapocket. It is strictly a 'taboo' thing in Japan that none of the popular ones would go for it, and the mainstream studios like S1 or Ideapocket have never done any interracial vid ever.






isnt it SOE-662 ? btw the "blacks" are black painted japanese(!) funny that somebody does not notice it.. :P
maria ozawa, ann nanba, nao., hitomi kitagwa, megumi haruka, etc did av with blacks (real blacks i mean :lol:) do you want to say they can be labelled as "unpopular"?


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Re: (Group) Ebisu Muscats
« Reply #1204 on: October 26, 2012, 05:20:49 PM »
From Shou's Twitter

Also some concert pics. The first one seems appropriate for Halloween, as they all have glowing eyes that make them look possessed  :shocked



Also, obligatory Rio pic :wub:

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Re: (Group) Ebisu Muscats
« Reply #1205 on: October 26, 2012, 07:32:22 PM »
From Shou's Twitter

Also some concert pics. The first one seems appropriate for Halloween, as they all have glowing eyes that make them look possessed  :shocked



Also, obligatory Rio pic :wub:



Yeah, that first pic is totally appropriate for October 31.  Also, I have to say that pic of Rio is really cute.  But when it comes to Airi Kijima, I wanna go batshit crazy.  I'd probably line my bedroom walls with nothing but pics of her.
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Re: (Group) Ebisu Muscats
« Reply #1206 on: October 26, 2012, 08:00:07 PM »
isnt it SOE-662 ? btw the "blacks" are black painted japanese(!) funny that somebody does not notice it.. :P
maria ozawa, ann nanba, nao., hitomi kitagwa, megumi haruka, etc did av with blacks (real blacks i mean :lol:) do you want to say they can be labelled as "unpopular"?

At this point Maria Ozawa and the others aren't speaking traditional AV idols so they don't count in my book.
They are not "unpopular" by any means, it's just, look at all of the traditional censored AVs and tell me if you spot a legit black guy. Not a guy who painted his skin black for the sake of entertainment like 1920s America. No, a legit black guy. I'm talking like a Russell Westbrook or what have you.

Well babaroga you probably don't know where I'm going with this but everyone else does. There's a reason why I mentioned specifically, Russell Westbrook. No seriously I mentioned it several times :P



but anyway wsup
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Re: (Group) Ebisu Muscats
« Reply #1207 on: October 26, 2012, 11:36:16 PM »
That is my favourite Acky look. Straight hair, let down like that?  mmmmmmmmmmmmm :wub:

In fact, more Acky perving for me please :drool:



Can't remember if I ever posted this or not but well, Rina's cute doing that dance. And Minori bitch slapping never gets old




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Re: (Group) Ebisu Muscats
« Reply #1208 on: October 27, 2012, 12:09:53 AM »
I swear, Minori has the cutest laugh ever.   :lol:

and some new Ogura blog-pics...
I so wanna taste what Ogura has...

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Re: (Group) Ebisu Muscats
« Reply #1209 on: October 27, 2012, 09:26:35 AM »



I was having kind of a sad night honestly, but these helped.

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Re: (Group) Ebisu Muscats
« Reply #1210 on: October 27, 2012, 01:41:38 PM »
isnt it SOE-662 ? btw the "blacks" are black painted japanese(!) funny that somebody does not notice it.. :P
maria ozawa, ann nanba, nao., hitomi kitagwa, megumi haruka, etc did av with blacks (real blacks i mean :lol:) do you want to say they can be labelled as "unpopular"?

At this point Maria Ozawa and the others aren't speaking traditional AV idols so they don't count in my book.
They are not "unpopular" by any means, it's just, look at all of the traditional censored AVs and tell me if you spot a legit black guy. Not a guy who painted his skin black for the sake of entertainment like 1920s America. No, a legit black guy. I'm talking like a Russell Westbrook or what have you.

Well babaroga you probably don't know where I'm going with this but everyone else does. There's a reason why I mentioned specifically, Russell Westbrook. No seriously I mentioned it several times :P

but anyway wsup
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Speaking of which do you like Acky?


i wonder what are those others ? UNtraditional av idols ? :roll:

just because a particular studio refuses to make interracial videos doesnt mean to me that it "doesnt exist" and making here some highly subjective
"popular"/unpopular/traditional av idol distinctions is surely not my approach ...but hey thats "just me"....
when i give you a fresh sample (av with blacks) with Juria Tachibana-SERO-0147 i suppose it doesnt "count in your book" (worldview?)
well thats ok...

Russell Westbrook? never heard of him


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Re: (Group) Ebisu Muscats
« Reply #1211 on: October 27, 2012, 01:47:52 PM »
lol maria and hotaru are the most famous jav girls to do vids with actual blacks (not sure why duder is so interested in this tbh) and if it's produced in japan for japanese audience then it is censored...sakura aida did a 'black guy' av IN AMERICA and it still was censored...attackers is the furthest the Hokuto Corporation will go with their top-tier girls (not sure why they need to do this to be honest)

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Re: (Group) Ebisu Muscats
« Reply #1212 on: October 27, 2012, 02:39:25 PM »
I swear I walked into this elevator sober...what happened? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :?






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Re: (Group) Ebisu Muscats
« Reply #1213 on: October 27, 2012, 03:16:42 PM »
isnt it SOE-662 ? btw the "blacks" are black painted japanese(!) funny that somebody does not notice it.. :P
maria ozawa, ann nanba, nao., hitomi kitagwa, megumi haruka, etc did av with blacks (real blacks i mean :lol:) do you want to say they can be labelled as "unpopular"?

At this point Maria Ozawa and the others aren't speaking traditional AV idols so they don't count in my book.
They are not "unpopular" by any means, it's just, look at all of the traditional censored AVs and tell me if you spot a legit black guy. Not a guy who painted his skin black for the sake of entertainment like 1920s America. No, a legit black guy. I'm talking like a Russell Westbrook or what have you.

Well babaroga you probably don't know where I'm going with this but everyone else does. There's a reason why I mentioned specifically, Russell Westbrook. No seriously I mentioned it several times :P

but anyway wsup
 :welcome

Speaking of which do you like Acky?


i wonder what are those others ? UNtraditional av idols ? :roll:

just because a particular studio refuses to make interracial videos doesnt mean to me that it "doesnt exist" and making here some highly subjective
"popular"/unpopular/traditional av idol distinctions is surely not my approach ...but hey thats "just me"....
when i give you a fresh sample (av with blacks) with Juria Tachibana-SERO-0147 i suppose it doesnt "count in your book" (worldview?)
well thats ok...

Russell Westbrook? never heard of him



I'm not sure what your or L4verra mean by traditional JAV idol. I'm guessing the distinction is those who are exclusively contracted to studios and those who aren't? Interracial JAV vids, where a black male does it with a Japanese female, do exist. The actresses you've previously mentioned are not unpopular by any means with those who are familiar with JAV. Yuka Osawa was madly popular and at the height of her popularity, she flew out to America to do 2 interracial vids with American male and female pornstars. But there are a number of factors that come into play for each of them. For one, at the time, they were freelancers, not tied down to just one studio and can film as many JAV's as they want, with studios who would film interracial. Secondly, because of their freelance status, they're not Muscats, and when they made those vids, it wasn't with AV studios that finance and back the Muscats. It's simple, you won't see a true interracial vid with any current Muscat members because of the studios they're with. At the same time, not being a Muscat doesn't limit an actress from being wildly popular e.g. Yuka Osawa, Tsubomi, JULIA, Cocomi Naruse...

Pics from a recent concert. During it, Aino was in tears when she was doing the MC and mentioned that there were Muscats missing from the lineup, obviously talking about Jessica & Rin. :(




I do like that pic of Asami trying to cop a feel of Saemi. As a proven lady lover herself, I wonder if she's got more than a feeling for Saemi? :drool: Also, lots more pics here and here

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Re: (Group) Ebisu Muscats
« Reply #1214 on: October 27, 2012, 03:48:48 PM »
which sub-unit would Kijima 'The New Girl' Airi suit?
not sure...

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Re: (Group) Ebisu Muscats
« Reply #1215 on: October 27, 2012, 06:12:33 PM »
"It's simple, you won't see a true interracial vid with any current Muscat members because of the studios they're with. At the same time, not being a Muscat doesn't limit an actress from being wildly popular e.g. Yuka Osawa, Tsubomi, JULIA, Cocomi Naruse..."
makes sense to me (i never claimed the "opposite"),
yuka osawa(elly akira) is a good example ,  uta kohaku can be added the list to..(who along with ayaka tomoda,hikaru shiina has her own music-group in the av´s..AKB inspired...  :grin: )

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Re: (Group) Ebisu Muscats
« Reply #1216 on: October 27, 2012, 08:20:24 PM »
I'm not sure what your or L4verra mean by traditional JAV idol. I'm guessing the distinction is those who are exclusively contracted to studios and those who aren't? Interracial JAV vids, where a black male does it with a Japanese female, do exist. The actresses you've previously mentioned are not unpopular by any means with those who are familiar with JAV. Yuka Osawa was madly popular and at the height of her popularity, she flew out to America to do 2 interracial vids with American male and female pornstars. But there are a number of factors that come into play for each of them. For one, at the time, they were freelancers, not tied down to just one studio and can film as many JAV's as they want, with studios who would film interracial. Secondly, because of their freelance status, they're not Muscats, and when they made those vids, it wasn't with AV studios that finance and back the Muscats. It's simple, you won't see a true interracial vid with any current Muscat members because of the studios they're with. At the same time, not being a Muscat doesn't limit an actress from being wildly popular e.g. Yuka Osawa, Tsubomi, JULIA, Cocomi Naruse...
Please regard the fact that this is all personal opinion. No two people's views on a particular subject can be the same at times.

What I mean by non-traditional JAV idols here is that, well, if you can see everything without censorship, than no that does not mean I view that lady as an AV idol. Best example of this is Maria Ozawa. Even though she's widely regarded as a top AV idol, there's no censorship in some of her photos and videos. You might view her as an AV idol whether or not there's censorship, but I don't. And no, Acky's leaked photos do not count, since, well, they were leaked. Not legitimately published by the studio is what I mean. Simply put, in my opinion, censorship = AV idol. No censorship = porn star.

I'm not speaking about AV idols from way back in the day (80's and 90's) either. Since I only got interested in the AV industry from as late as 2009, I don't really have much of a grasp on what happened with AV idols in the past, what they did in terms of video material, and a myriad of other things. If anything, Yuma Asami was the first AV idol who caught my eye. And no, as you may know she wasn't from the 80's or 90's.

And no, an AV idol does not have to be an Ebisu Muscat to be considered a top AV idol in my book. I think Nana Ogura, Kokomi Naruse, Kana Yume and Asuka Hoshino have something to say about that. Plus, an AV idol can have her fair share of high-level fame even if she resigned from the 'Cats. Cocomi Sakura, Risa Kasumi, Miyuki Yokoyama, Uruha Mizuki, you get the picture.

I wish some of the freelancers could hit up the Ebisu Muscats every so often, but damn if we are just looking at them because of the corporation's sake, that's not good. Imagine if Aino left Ideapocket to be a freelancer. How devastating would that be to the 'Cats?

But I digress, I wouldn't mind seeing an interracial AV now and then, but S1 and Ideapocket won't seem to take that risk. And no, coloring your skin for the sake of entertainment does not count here. So no interracial vids of Acky, Shou, Rina, Kaho and Aino. Ah well...

Russell Westbrook? never heard of him
Whenever I mention Westbrook's name with regards to one of the Muscats, just know that I'm mentioning Aino Kishi.
I view Aino Kishi as the unofficial mascot for the NBA team, the Oklahoma City Thunder. And I view her as Russell Westbrook's unofficial AV girlfriend.
No. I do not imagine Russell Westbrook performing the "Nightingale" dance with Kaho Kasumi.
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I swear I walked into this elevator sober...what happened? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :?


If this happened to me I would literally faint. Dead serious.
Wait a minute where the hell is Saemi? I'm not staying in an elevator filled with the 'Cats if there's no Saemi man...Rina's in there.
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which sub-unit would Kijima 'The New Girl' Airi suit?
not sure...
What is it with you people and Airi Kijima... :smhid

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Re: (Group) Ebisu Muscats
« Reply #1217 on: October 27, 2012, 09:09:02 PM »
^ just because you feel a certain way about something does not mean that it should be that way. maria is an av idol whether or not she did uncensored work and regardless of how you feel about the subject. also wasn't she a muscat at one point (or at least associated with the group)?

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Re: (Group) Ebisu Muscats
« Reply #1218 on: October 27, 2012, 09:17:48 PM »
^ just because you feel a certain way about something does not mean that it should be that way. maria is an av idol whether or not she did uncensored work and regardless of how you feel about the subject. also wasn't she a muscat at one point (or at least associated with the group)?
Please regard the fact that this is all personal opinion. No two people's views on a particular subject can be the same at times.

Do you honestly wanna know why I can't view AV idols as AV idols without the censorship? If I can't see everything, I can't truly enjoy it. This goes without saying that yes, girls like Maria Ozawa and Elly Akira have done uncensored work, but they seem like the only girls who have done censored work that are on the top of my head. The ones I seem to like the most, Rina Rukawa, Aino Kishi, Shou Nishino, Yuma Asami, Rio and Akiho Yoshizawa, have never done uncensored work, just because they are Muscats locked in with corporations that prevent that sort of thing. The same goes for all my favorite AV girls who aren't Muscats or were Muscats at a time. Risa Kasumi, Cocomi Sakura, Uruha Mizuki (specifically), Kokomi Naruse, Shizuku Hasegawa, just to name a few. It just bothers me to see that my favorite AV girls out there won't, or in this case can't, perform uncensored AV. It's like that censorship down there is a bit of a thin line, deciphering what I can see as an AV idol and what I can see as a porn star. If that censorship line was gone, I would not have much problem making out that Rina Rukawa and Uruha Mizuki were no different than Maria Ozawa. But that is not the case.

Maybe this is me just sounding like sour grapes.

Because really, I do sound like sour grapes.

I just want to be able to 100% enjoy my AV girls, you know what I mean?
« Last Edit: October 28, 2012, 01:09:43 AM by L4verra »
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Re: (Group) Ebisu Muscats
« Reply #1219 on: October 28, 2012, 01:48:02 AM »
More pics, I'm sure initial will be pretty excited to see his two favourites together, stuffing their pieholes


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