Author Topic: US Elections 2008 (Read 34098 times)

Mugen · « **Reply #40 on:** February 28, 2008, 07:33:45 AM »

Obama rocks. I wouldve vote for him if im a US citizen

I got convinced in his presidential debate with hilary, check this out.
[youtube=425,350]o5eKrAmE2Es[/youtube]

garbagefan2424 · « **Reply #41 on:** March 05, 2008, 12:31:28 AM »

Wow I for one second that that was his voice lol, I really think both democratic choices are really good candidates, although I favor Obama because he's more of an idealist

eglue · « **Reply #42 on:** March 05, 2008, 03:52:24 AM »

haha...man, i've been telling everyone that barack kinda sounds like the rock. i guess there's people out there that agree. haha. "if you smellllalalalalalala what baROCK is cooking!" haha.

JFC · « **Reply #43 on:** March 05, 2008, 05:11:56 AM »

Looks like McCain has secured the Republican nomination.

Asmodai · « **Reply #44 on:** March 05, 2008, 06:08:00 AM »

While the Democrats looks like it'll go on to Pennsylvania after Hillary's double-digit win in Ohio.

meowchi · « **Reply #45 on:** March 05, 2008, 11:38:01 PM »

It doesn't matter if Hillary wins by 20% in Pennsylvania. She still cannot get more votes or more pledged delegates than Obama by the end of it all.

He will have still won more states, delegates, and votes than her. She has almost no path to the nomination outside suing for Michigan and Florida... or relying on the DNC to hand-select her.

Recent polls there show her lead within the margin of error anyways... Hillary at this point has a math problem. And perhaps like Mike Huckabee she will choose to not believe in math. But I don't see the seas parting for Hillary anytime soon.

As Camp Clinton reminded us not even 3 full weeks ago -- states do not nominate the delegates do. But that delegate lead is gone and Hillary now clings to her 'big wins' like a child to a security blanket.

Questioner, go here http://www.slate.com/features/delegateco...

Put in Hillary winning every state (and not just PA) from this point out at 60-40. She still fails to overtake Obama at the convention. Even in the most optimistic scenario, Hillary cannot beat him out in delegates. She has, perhaps at best, a moral claim to the nomination depending on what happens in PA and a few other states.

Asmodai · « **Reply #46 on:** March 05, 2008, 11:40:59 PM »

Yeah, it'll be tough. If Florida and Michigan count, then she has the clear lead. If she wins the popular vote, they she may win out with super-delegates even if she doesn't have the most convention delegates. Since the way convention delegates are selected is so stupid, she'll have a good argument that they don't reflect they will of the public. I wouldn't call it just yet.

meowchi · « **Reply #47 on:** March 05, 2008, 11:55:25 PM »

Quote from: Asmodai

If Florida and Michigan count, then she has the clear lead.

They will never be allowed to count the earlier voting. Obama wasn't on the ballot in Michigan and neither candidate campaigned in either state.

There's talk of redoing the votes in those two states. That would seem to make sense.

Quote from: Asmodai

they she may win out with super-delegates

And speaking of super-delegates (and if no one knows what asmo means by the term 'super-delegate'):
The superdelagates are made up of party bigwigs, and politics is all about quid pro quo. In other words, nothing is done for free, and Hillary has been in the game longer than Obama. Which means a lot more people owe her a backscratch then they do Obama. She's had decades at the national level to acquire favors owed to her. And now she's calling them in.

And each party nominates their candidates independent of the other. When it comes time for the actual general election what you're actually voting for are electors, chosen by the party, to make up the electoral college. But for the primaries the delagates are purely for one party or another.

Asmodai · « **Reply #48 on:** March 06, 2008, 12:27:10 AM »

A re-do seems to make the most sense at this point. It was crazy to get into this position in the first place though.

Foxy Brown · « **Reply #49 on:** March 12, 2008, 03:40:28 AM »

Mugen · « **Reply #50 on:** March 14, 2008, 11:22:44 AM »

i fucking hate it when politicians take cheap shot at another person. At first, i dont mind hilary or barack but hilary has been talking shit like she won it and her party have been trying to tie barack with the taliban or some stupid shit liek that. stupid beotcj

Maikeru86 · « **Reply #51 on:** March 15, 2008, 07:42:47 AM »

Florida and Michigan shouldn't even count because they broke the rules and moved their primaries up. But if they're gonna change the rules for Hilary in the middle of the game then a redo would be the fairest way.

Tako · « **Reply #52 on:** March 18, 2008, 07:54:34 AM »

I'm really mad that the Democrats even have Superdelegates. If Clinton wins, it will mostly be because of the Superdelegates, and then there pretty much would be no reason for us to vote in the primaries.
I really feel that although Obama is really idealistic and has less experience than Clinton, he will put forth a change in our country.

Anyways, I doubt that they'll revote in Florida and Michigan. Didn't the proposition get shut down because it cost too much or something?...maybe I'm making that up.

^^That's a sweet picture btw.

Foxy Brown · « **Reply #53 on:** March 22, 2008, 06:49:14 PM »

[youtube=425,350]vthdr96EDnE[/youtube].

Foxy Brown · « **Reply #54 on:** April 01, 2008, 08:24:08 AM »

Hillary Clinton appears to have lost a high-profile backer to rival Barack Obama.

Rapper 50 Cent, who told Time magazine last September he was supporting the New York senator's White House bid, now says he has decided to shift his allegiance to Obama.

I LuV J-PoP · « **Reply #55 on:** April 01, 2008, 05:39:18 PM »

You guys know if Obama gets elected as president he'll most likely be shot shortly after he becomes president.

ctz · « **Reply #56 on:** April 03, 2008, 02:23:19 AM »

We're not living in the 60's... I'm pretty sure if Obama wins, he'll stay alive.

Foxy Brown · « **Reply #57 on:** April 03, 2008, 08:05:09 AM »

Mike Gravel '08
[youtube=425,350]bA2LgJviH9w[/youtube]

JFC · « **Reply #58 on:** April 09, 2008, 05:30:17 AM »

Why so serious?

Foxy Brown · « **Reply #59 on:** April 17, 2008, 07:36:28 PM »

http://brucespringsteen.net/news/index.html