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Title: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on January 02, 2016, 10:05:14 AM
Just popped up on twitter, it was announced at a concert

https://twitter.com/hipnewsservice/status/683207728270045184
https://twitter.com/hello_base/status/683205729742749696



This is probably the first time I outright say I don't like an audition happening. :?

Just because H!P has SO MANY NEW MEMBERS and I wanted time for current MM to establish its new leads...
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: J-Triumf on January 02, 2016, 10:08:48 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/aLIcJ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/lvghg.jpg)

ALREADY TRYING TO REPLACE RIHO OMG

Yeah, this is a bit too soon...but then again Riho's grad process was pretty fast too. Perhaps this will be another solo generation?
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on January 02, 2016, 10:20:43 AM
Yeah I guess I just don't know what they are looking for. If it's a new ace, something like that isn't easily found, and I see them doing the "no winner" thing. If it's another crop of generally good members, right now, I really don't see the point with 12th gen still settling in.
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: kuro808 on January 02, 2016, 05:32:28 PM
I have to agree it's a little shocking to hear this.  I'm not sure what it'll be but maybe one of those things if they can find someone to fit it'll be fine or just another proxy audition to set up :nervous
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: oaxiac on January 02, 2016, 07:12:19 PM
 I preditc that  they're gonna announce that there's no winner. And then suddenly Uta-chan's intro music will interrupt Makoto's announcement, WWE-style...   :lol:



Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: Slack on January 02, 2016, 11:39:24 PM
I think we all know what this audition is really about.
It's really a Kenshuusei audition!
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: scorn on January 03, 2016, 04:02:15 AM
ALREADY TRYING TO REPLACE RIHO OMG
In other words, the company's management has absolutely zero faith in the 12th gen members in shouldering Morning Musume's 18-year reputation?
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on January 03, 2016, 10:24:53 AM
Speaking of Kenshuusei, I could only see one non-debuted one that I thought might have a chance at being an ace, that is Saori Onoda. The other vocally capable ones like Ruru aren't conventionally cute enough to be the ace. Sakura has great vocals, yet my impression is that J-wota don't consider her a face of MM despite having tons of lines because they don't think she's cute enough. Saori is the only one I could see making people go like "ermmagrwerrdd she's so cute I'm going to DIEEE". But even that doesn't mean she's suitable for an ace position in H!P's leading ship. I thought Yanagawa and Funaki were adorable and they were put in Country Girls. In general I see a lot of KSS that people hyped a lot as trainees become just ordinary members in groups. Hamachan was supposed to be wildly popular, but she's not standing out in Kobushi to me at all. It's become more difficult to predict things...

Aside from ace material though, KSS always has good potential. Kaede Kaga has been a fav for ages, but I fear time is running out for her. :( Ruru obviously has great vocals.

I think if a new girl joins to take Riho's spot, she'll have to be pretty damn awesome. Kind of like how Riho was back then. It's still unbelievable to me, the pressure she went through at her age.

This is actually pretty crazy; I don't think MM has ever had a period when it didn't have an obvious ace. Nacchi -> Maki -> Aichan -> Riho -> ??? Also it's pretty crazy that Maki overtook Nacchi as an ace while Nacchi was still there... That's also pretty unique. :lol: It was a different time though.


EDIT: But also, if you look at the aces that MM has had so far, none of them had a cutesy voice. They all had a sort of low thing going on. If I recall correctly, Saori has a very cutesy voice? So yeah... :lol:
EDIT: No, she doesn't!!! At least talking voice :lol: But she looks very different in photos than in video :lol: Whatevs. I'm an old hag, I can't remember everything.
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: Chibs on January 03, 2016, 06:03:51 PM
From what i hear of the rearrangement of lines in the hp concert, so far its looking like they don't want Maachan to be the center.  Hopefully they find someone good.
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on January 03, 2016, 06:24:44 PM
^ Aw :( I wonder if they don't find her reliable enough (not when it comes to performing, but as someone who hides under tables when she feels like it)

Are there any reports on who is getting lines?
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: Chibs on January 03, 2016, 07:21:20 PM
Sakura and Mizuki at least for these songs, have to wait till next single to be sure though
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: Sacul097 on January 03, 2016, 09:32:47 PM
I feel like I remember there being an official statement when 12th gen first joined that 14 members (including Sayu) was the largest that they intended for the group to get. I might be imagining things but if that's true, then the most we'll get out of this audition is 2 new girls.
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: Chibs on January 03, 2016, 10:02:12 PM
unless someone graduates
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: mini*wheat on January 04, 2016, 06:35:15 PM
Yeah, I'm wondering if we DO get new members.... if they will join MM '16 or really wait until '17 to properly debut? Or if it's going to be a "no winner" thing.

Part of me wonders if they're preparing for more girls to graduate because they don't want to lose a bunch of girls and have to quickly add more new ones (like when 9th gen joined). But yeah, I feel 12th gen hasn't really been given a chance to shine as well as they could (except maybe Miki), so I feel like it seems so soon to add new girls...????

I mean, I say that and I'm sure if/when 13th gen joins I'm going to love them haha.  :lol:
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: Chibs on January 05, 2016, 02:56:34 AM
I'm guessing the new girls will debut late 2016 or early 2017.  usually we see the winners in september.
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: john_hung on January 05, 2016, 05:18:20 AM
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/gallery/no/tina-no.gif)

seriously what the fuck are they doing  :doh:
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: sayumi_fan on January 24, 2016, 03:26:11 PM
This thread is what is so great about this whole forum...  people who really know stuff, have thought about stuff and can guide the thinking and understanding of the rest of us...  I never can get hold of enough information to make reliable judgments, but when I see analysis such as Shirenu's above, and everyone else adding their bit, it reminds me why I am so thankful for JPHiP !!!   :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: muppet on January 25, 2016, 07:52:50 AM
Miayabi San and I are putting $20
On Kokoro Maeda.....it's a long shot,
but the odds would pay very well if she was
chosen ......

And Miyabi san knows the ponies... :otomerika:

(http://picroda.jphip.com/hp/jphip36327.jpeg)
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: J-Triumf on May 31, 2016, 02:05:39 PM
Looks like nobody won and they're restarting the auditions?
http://www.nikkansports.com/m/entertainment/news/1656074_m.html

There's been a lot of speculation that the winners would be announced at Zukki's grad concert, but nothing happened, so it looks like we'll have to wait a bit longer again.

(in other news here comes more KSS :P)
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: J-Triumf on November 23, 2016, 08:20:42 AM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1409115635767115
According to this report, 13th gen will be revealed next month at Momusu's tour final at Budokan! And apparently they're all gonna be picked from KSS!

Who could be getting in??? And how many???
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on November 23, 2016, 09:09:43 AM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1409115635767115
According to this report, 13th gen will be revealed next month at Momusu's tour final at Budokan! And apparently they're all gonna be picked from KSS!

Who could be getting in??? And how many???

^ KSS profiles: http://helloproject.com/helloprokenshusei/profile/

My quick thoughts:

Hope: Kaede Kaga (http://helloproject.com/helloprokenshusei/profile/kaede_kaga/)
Possibly hope: Kurumi Takase (http://helloproject.com/helloprokenshusei/profile/kurumi_takase/)
Soft spot for no logical reason: Mizuki Kanatsu (http://helloproject.com/helloprokenshusei/profile/mizuki_kanatu/)
Intriguing from the KSS I don't really know: Reina Yokoyama (http://helloproject.com/helloprokenshusei/profile/reina_yokoyama/)
I think this Reina girl is super conventionally cute. No idea about her skills, but based on these photos, her face has everything going for her

If we're allowed to include KSS Hokkaido, I've liked Ryou Kitagawa's face :lol: (http://helloproject.com/helloprokenshuseihokkaido/profile/ryou_kitagawa/)
"YOUR FACE IS NICE"

But again I HAVE NO IDEA REALLY. Because I'm still not sure what the management is really looking for ATM. If it's pure talent, then Ruru Danbara should be an obvious pick.


Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: J-Triumf on November 23, 2016, 09:59:06 AM
Here's the official announcement:
http://www.helloproject.com/news/6098

They couldn't find anyone from the audition process, so I guess they're pushing the Trainees just to get someone out there?

Anyway, my money is on Karin clone Ayano Kawamura (http://helloproject.com/helloprokenshusei/profile/ayano_kawamura/), an already experienced idol from a land H!P rarely touches. But for who I'd personally want, I'm continuing my hope for balance with someone older and/or taller...so Reina Ichioka (http://helloproject.com/helloprokenshusei/profile/reina_ichioka/). :P Meanwhile some folks I follow on Twitter are hyped for Momohime Kiyono (http://helloproject.com/helloprokenshusei/profile/momohime_kiyono/) who admittedly is pretty cute and has mad beatboxing skills, so she'd be a good pick too (though if she gets in they'll definitely need a taller girl with her to balance things out).

Tsubaki Factory is still technically KSS for now...what if Momusu steals someone from them or makes a trade??? :lol:

Just realized this is the most knowledgeable I've ever been about the Eggs/KSS leading into a new MM generation! :nervous I'm getting better at knowing them before they debut!

(also in b4 Sayumi and Riho come back with different names pretending to be completely different people)
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: CrypticShadow8 on November 23, 2016, 04:29:40 PM
I need Kaga to join! I already got my boss to reschedule my meeting I had that day so I can go to the concert. Hopefully I can still get a ticket from the resellers.

There's a lot of good potential in the KSS right now. This called me to break out the extensive notes as shown below that I made during the KSS recital lol. Kaga and RuRu really impressed me though I may have been biased in my Kaga love (impossible). Reina also improved a lot so I could see her getting added. Her dancing is still great which is important for current MM. Momohime had a pretty good voice but I mostly impressed by her stage presence and confidence so I could see her as an addition too (not entirely sure about her personality though). I also thought Horie Kizuki had a good voice. I think the others I was more impressed with have already been snatched by Tsubaki.
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: oaxiac on November 23, 2016, 05:37:33 PM
We should have a betting game or something  :lol:

Take your pick:(click to zoom)
(http://i.imgur.com/DVGbKiD.jpg)
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: mini*wheat on November 23, 2016, 05:46:08 PM
HOPES:
Kaga Kaede
Danbara Ruru
Takase Kurumi

WHAT I THINK:
Kiyono Momohime (She's like the internet fave it seems... she's just so young)
Maeda Kokoro

And no one will still know what the Hokkaido branch is gonna do  :lol:
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: muppet on November 23, 2016, 07:46:57 PM
Kaede and Ruru would be excellent choices and would bring some competitive tension to 12th gen......

I am a fan of Kokoro, but is it her time and is Morning Musume the right fit?
There is a lot of talent potential in the trainee group, but I would suspect that Kaga/ Danbara are the key picks....

Maybe a two person generation for a change?

Oh yeah... Mizuki Kanatsu as a long shot contender....



Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: scorn on November 24, 2016, 02:59:38 AM
And apparently they're all gonna be picked from KSS!
That should be the way: trained KSSes, not auditions that seem no different than Up-front staff going out, seeing the first 3-4 teenage girls & go "hey ya don't look horrendously ugly, join H!P's flagship vocal group!" Not putting down the likes of Koharu or Sayu, they do look all kawaii & hot, but honestly I can't see them possibly reaching the pinnacle of Sakura's vocal prowess or Riho's dancing ability.
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: CrypticShadow8 on November 25, 2016, 02:17:10 AM
Yay just got my ticket for a terrible behind the stage seat but good news since the seat sucks it wasn't that expensive lol. Feel a little bad cause it was the last ticket to Budokan they had at the shop and someone was on the phone trying to get it but I was like "no I want it" At least now I can see he new members!
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: mini*wheat on December 11, 2016, 02:12:44 AM
YA'LL WE ARE SO CLOSE AND I AM PUMPED.

I have my fave trainees, but I really just love the trainees in general so I am stoked to see some (or one....!?) of them debut.  :luvluv1:
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on December 11, 2016, 08:48:28 AM
I want someone to twitter @ me the result because I have a feeling I'll be at uni when the news come out. :lol:
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: CrypticShadow8 on December 11, 2016, 04:25:32 PM
I cannot wait! I haven't been this excited for an audition for awhile and it's cause I legit really like the trainees right now.

I have an assessment/evaluation for work in  the afternoon so this concert will be the perfect thing to make me feel better if it sucks lol.
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: Chibs on December 12, 2016, 03:36:12 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/9oD9e4R.jpg)
Kanatsu Mizuki
(http://i.imgur.com/tKoj7pU.jpg)
Nishida Shiori
(http://i.imgur.com/s7vbKXp.jpg)
Takase Kurumi
(http://i.imgur.com/8tRgZbe.jpg)
Danbara Ruru
My hopes
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: J-Triumf on December 12, 2016, 11:05:50 AM
It's official, the 13th generation members are:
Reina Yokoyama
Kaede Kaga


Congrats to the winners!
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: oaxiac on December 12, 2016, 11:25:34 AM
Congrats to Reina and Kaga!

Announcement clips:
https://twitter.com/hello_puro_suki/status/808242101322252288

https://twitter.com/hello_puro_suki/status/808242340305346560
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: CrypticShadow8 on December 12, 2016, 12:41:37 PM
I'm so excited about Kaga-chan! I've been waiting since Lilium for this.
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: muppet on December 12, 2016, 02:38:57 PM
Congratulations
Lucky Thirteen!
Kaede chan
& Reina chan!!


(http://picroda.jphip.com/hp/jphip37983.jpg)
Erina, Kaede, Reina, and Mizuki
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on December 12, 2016, 04:33:35 PM
Heyyy both girls were among my hopes/guesses :lol: :lol: Probably the first time for that...

YAY KAEDY!! WELL EARNED!!! I cried when she cried. But then again, it's not that hard to make me cry these days, goddamnit.
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: Sacul097 on December 12, 2016, 09:36:33 PM
I actually cheered out loud when I saw this. Go Kaede!


On a side note, I'm also glad that there's finally a 2 member generation. It bugged me that we've had 1nin, 3nin, 4nin, and the original 5nin, but no 2nin until now.
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: mini*wheat on December 12, 2016, 10:13:24 PM
I AM SO HAPPY FOR KAEDE OMG  :cow:
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: JFC on December 13, 2016, 03:52:56 AM
AramaJapan.com - Morning Musume 16′ adds two new members for their 13th generation (http://aramajapan.com/news/music/morning-musume-16-adds-two-new-members-for-their-13th-generation/68111/)
- http://aramajapan.com/news/music/morning-musume-16-adds-two-new-members-for-their-13th-generation/68111/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15RDQGkL9VM
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: Ruka Kikuchi on December 13, 2016, 03:55:56 AM
Hehe, so Kaede's a fan fav. Good for her.

Congrats to both these girls! ^_^
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: winner on December 13, 2016, 07:10:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL82KogJI50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHEfNTyGowc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDtI2SZohmc
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: scorn on December 13, 2016, 05:38:29 PM
I dunno about Reina II ( :D) is it wise to put someone who only had Kenshuusei training for less than 3 months? Remember the 13th gen girls share the part to shoulder Morning Musume's 18-year reputation

Will be waiting for Nakazawa, Yasuda, & Kaorin to state their public approval of Yokoyama :P
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: mini*wheat on December 13, 2016, 07:39:46 PM
^
There's been a ton of girls added from straight up auditions only with NO KSS training at all, so I don't think that should raise concern. LinLin was only in for two months before joining Momusu. Maho was only in for about the same before Angerme and Tomoko from J=J only had three months training and they've all been great (imo) additions to all of their groups.  :thumbup
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: muppet on December 14, 2016, 01:43:10 AM
I look forward to learning more about Reina Chan...

But for now, let's travel to

Kaga Kountry!

(http://picroda.jphip.com/hp/jphip37984.jpg)(http://picroda.jphip.com/hp/jphip37985.jpg)

(http://picroda.jphip.com/hp/jphip37986.jpg) (http://picroda.jphip.com/hp/jphip37989.jpg)

(http://picroda.jphip.com/hp/jphip37988.jpg)(http://picroda.jphip.com/hp/jphip32128.jpg)

(http://picroda.jphip.com/hp/jphip37990.jpg)


ハロプロ研修生・加賀楓(かがかえで)2013冬 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a-ri_Ga_Dk)
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: JFC on December 14, 2016, 06:47:29 PM
TokyoHive.com - Two 13th generation members join Morning Musume (http://www.tokyohive.com/article/2016/12/two-13th-generation-members-join-morning-musume)
- http://www.tokyohive.com/article/2016/12/two-13th-generation-members-join-morning-musume
- http://natalie.mu/music/news/212961
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: JFC on December 16, 2016, 02:45:56 AM
AramaJapan.com - Morning Musume 16′ adds two new members for their 13th generation (http://aramajapan.com/news/music/morning-musume-16-adds-two-new-members-for-their-13th-generation/68111/)
- http://aramajapan.com/news/music/morning-musume-16-adds-two-new-members-for-their-13th-generation/68111/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15RDQGkL9VM
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: muppet on December 31, 2016, 01:11:23 PM
Had not seen this clip...

Kaede and Reina are informed by Mizuki....

Then the rest of the members find out...(hint: watch Sakura's reaction)

New Era starts tomorrow!
(http://picroda.jphip.com/hp/jphip38096.jpg)


モーニング娘。'16 13期メンバー決定の瞬間! 横山玲奈・加賀楓 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGWeANfHU84)
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: mini*wheat on December 31, 2016, 04:32:19 PM
New member colors were announced at Countdown today!

Kaede = Italian Red (...basically just Red, like a smidge brighter)
Reina = Golden Yellow (...So dark than Honey's, lighter than Duu's orange)
Title: Re: [News] Morning Musume '16 to hold 13th gen auditions
Post by: scorn on December 31, 2016, 04:49:37 PM
Had not seen this clip...

Kaede and Reina are informed by Mizuki....

Then the rest of the members find out...(hint: watch Sakura's reaction)

New Era starts tomorrow!
Is this the first time that the new members are first informed by the Leader? Usually Tsunku's the one doing it

Come to think of it: Mizuki herself was in that same position, back when Tsunku announced "there is still one more"