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The PIEHOLE => H!P News and Releases => Topic started by: shirenuファクトリー on January 02, 2016, 10:05:14 AM
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Just popped up on twitter, it was announced at a concert
https://twitter.com/hipnewsservice/status/683207728270045184
https://twitter.com/hello_base/status/683205729742749696
This is probably the first time I outright say I don't like an audition happening. :?
Just because H!P has SO MANY NEW MEMBERS and I wanted time for current MM to establish its new leads...
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ALREADY TRYING TO REPLACE RIHO OMG
Yeah, this is a bit too soon...but then again Riho's grad process was pretty fast too. Perhaps this will be another solo generation?
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Yeah I guess I just don't know what they are looking for. If it's a new ace, something like that isn't easily found, and I see them doing the "no winner" thing. If it's another crop of generally good members, right now, I really don't see the point with 12th gen still settling in.
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I have to agree it's a little shocking to hear this. I'm not sure what it'll be but maybe one of those things if they can find someone to fit it'll be fine or just another proxy audition to set up :nervous
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I preditc that they're gonna announce that there's no winner. And then suddenly Uta-chan's intro music will interrupt Makoto's announcement, WWE-style... :lol:
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I think we all know what this audition is really about.
It's really a Kenshuusei audition!
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ALREADY TRYING TO REPLACE RIHO OMG
In other words, the company's management has absolutely zero faith in the 12th gen members in shouldering Morning Musume's 18-year reputation?
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Speaking of Kenshuusei, I could only see one non-debuted one that I thought might have a chance at being an ace, that is Saori Onoda. The other vocally capable ones like Ruru aren't conventionally cute enough to be the ace. Sakura has great vocals, yet my impression is that J-wota don't consider her a face of MM despite having tons of lines because they don't think she's cute enough. Saori is the only one I could see making people go like "ermmagrwerrdd she's so cute I'm going to DIEEE". But even that doesn't mean she's suitable for an ace position in H!P's leading ship. I thought Yanagawa and Funaki were adorable and they were put in Country Girls. In general I see a lot of KSS that people hyped a lot as trainees become just ordinary members in groups. Hamachan was supposed to be wildly popular, but she's not standing out in Kobushi to me at all. It's become more difficult to predict things...
Aside from ace material though, KSS always has good potential. Kaede Kaga has been a fav for ages, but I fear time is running out for her. :( Ruru obviously has great vocals.
I think if a new girl joins to take Riho's spot, she'll have to be pretty damn awesome. Kind of like how Riho was back then. It's still unbelievable to me, the pressure she went through at her age.
This is actually pretty crazy; I don't think MM has ever had a period when it didn't have an obvious ace. Nacchi -> Maki -> Aichan -> Riho -> ??? Also it's pretty crazy that Maki overtook Nacchi as an ace while Nacchi was still there... That's also pretty unique. :lol: It was a different time though.
EDIT: But also, if you look at the aces that MM has had so far, none of them had a cutesy voice. They all had a sort of low thing going on. If I recall correctly, Saori has a very cutesy voice? So yeah... :lol:
EDIT: No, she doesn't!!! At least talking voice :lol: But she looks very different in photos than in video :lol: Whatevs. I'm an old hag, I can't remember everything.
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From what i hear of the rearrangement of lines in the hp concert, so far its looking like they don't want Maachan to be the center. Hopefully they find someone good.
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^ Aw :( I wonder if they don't find her reliable enough (not when it comes to performing, but as someone who hides under tables when she feels like it)
Are there any reports on who is getting lines?
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Sakura and Mizuki at least for these songs, have to wait till next single to be sure though
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I feel like I remember there being an official statement when 12th gen first joined that 14 members (including Sayu) was the largest that they intended for the group to get. I might be imagining things but if that's true, then the most we'll get out of this audition is 2 new girls.
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unless someone graduates
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Yeah, I'm wondering if we DO get new members.... if they will join MM '16 or really wait until '17 to properly debut? Or if it's going to be a "no winner" thing.
Part of me wonders if they're preparing for more girls to graduate because they don't want to lose a bunch of girls and have to quickly add more new ones (like when 9th gen joined). But yeah, I feel 12th gen hasn't really been given a chance to shine as well as they could (except maybe Miki), so I feel like it seems so soon to add new girls...????
I mean, I say that and I'm sure if/when 13th gen joins I'm going to love them haha. :lol:
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I'm guessing the new girls will debut late 2016 or early 2017. usually we see the winners in september.
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seriously what the fuck are they doing :doh:
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This thread is what is so great about this whole forum... people who really know stuff, have thought about stuff and can guide the thinking and understanding of the rest of us... I never can get hold of enough information to make reliable judgments, but when I see analysis such as Shirenu's above, and everyone else adding their bit, it reminds me why I am so thankful for JPHiP !!! :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub:
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Miayabi San and I are putting $20
On Kokoro Maeda.....it's a long shot,
but the odds would pay very well if she was
chosen ......
And Miyabi san knows the ponies... :otomerika:
(http://picroda.jphip.com/hp/jphip36327.jpeg)
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Looks like nobody won and they're restarting the auditions?
http://www.nikkansports.com/m/entertainment/news/1656074_m.html
There's been a lot of speculation that the winners would be announced at Zukki's grad concert, but nothing happened, so it looks like we'll have to wait a bit longer again.
(in other news here comes more KSS :P)
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1409115635767115
According to this report, 13th gen will be revealed next month at Momusu's tour final at Budokan! And apparently they're all gonna be picked from KSS!
Who could be getting in??? And how many???
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1409115635767115
According to this report, 13th gen will be revealed next month at Momusu's tour final at Budokan! And apparently they're all gonna be picked from KSS!
Who could be getting in??? And how many???
^ KSS profiles: http://helloproject.com/helloprokenshusei/profile/
My quick thoughts:
Hope: Kaede Kaga (http://helloproject.com/helloprokenshusei/profile/kaede_kaga/)
Possibly hope: Kurumi Takase (http://helloproject.com/helloprokenshusei/profile/kurumi_takase/)
Soft spot for no logical reason: Mizuki Kanatsu (http://helloproject.com/helloprokenshusei/profile/mizuki_kanatu/)
Intriguing from the KSS I don't really know: Reina Yokoyama (http://helloproject.com/helloprokenshusei/profile/reina_yokoyama/)
I think this Reina girl is super conventionally cute. No idea about her skills, but based on these photos, her face has everything going for her
If we're allowed to include KSS Hokkaido, I've liked Ryou Kitagawa's face :lol: (http://helloproject.com/helloprokenshuseihokkaido/profile/ryou_kitagawa/)
"YOUR FACE IS NICE"
But again I HAVE NO IDEA REALLY. Because I'm still not sure what the management is really looking for ATM. If it's pure talent, then Ruru Danbara should be an obvious pick.
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Here's the official announcement:
http://www.helloproject.com/news/6098
They couldn't find anyone from the audition process, so I guess they're pushing the Trainees just to get someone out there?
Anyway, my money is on Karin clone Ayano Kawamura (http://helloproject.com/helloprokenshusei/profile/ayano_kawamura/), an already experienced idol from a land H!P rarely touches. But for who I'd personally want, I'm continuing my hope for balance with someone older and/or taller...so Reina Ichioka (http://helloproject.com/helloprokenshusei/profile/reina_ichioka/). :P Meanwhile some folks I follow on Twitter are hyped for Momohime Kiyono (http://helloproject.com/helloprokenshusei/profile/momohime_kiyono/) who admittedly is pretty cute and has mad beatboxing skills, so she'd be a good pick too (though if she gets in they'll definitely need a taller girl with her to balance things out).
Tsubaki Factory is still technically KSS for now...what if Momusu steals someone from them or makes a trade??? :lol:
Just realized this is the most knowledgeable I've ever been about the Eggs/KSS leading into a new MM generation! :nervous I'm getting better at knowing them before they debut!
(also in b4 Sayumi and Riho come back with different names pretending to be completely different people)
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I need Kaga to join! I already got my boss to reschedule my meeting I had that day so I can go to the concert. Hopefully I can still get a ticket from the resellers.
There's a lot of good potential in the KSS right now. This called me to break out the extensive notes as shown below that I made during the KSS recital lol. Kaga and RuRu really impressed me though I may have been biased in my Kaga love (impossible). Reina also improved a lot so I could see her getting added. Her dancing is still great which is important for current MM. Momohime had a pretty good voice but I mostly impressed by her stage presence and confidence so I could see her as an addition too (not entirely sure about her personality though). I also thought Horie Kizuki had a good voice. I think the others I was more impressed with have already been snatched by Tsubaki.
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We should have a betting game or something :lol:
Take your pick:(click to zoom)
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HOPES:
Kaga Kaede
Danbara Ruru
Takase Kurumi
WHAT I THINK:
Kiyono Momohime (She's like the internet fave it seems... she's just so young)
Maeda Kokoro
And no one will still know what the Hokkaido branch is gonna do :lol:
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Kaede and Ruru would be excellent choices and would bring some competitive tension to 12th gen......
I am a fan of Kokoro, but is it her time and is Morning Musume the right fit?
There is a lot of talent potential in the trainee group, but I would suspect that Kaga/ Danbara are the key picks....
Maybe a two person generation for a change?
Oh yeah... Mizuki Kanatsu as a long shot contender....
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And apparently they're all gonna be picked from KSS!
That should be the way: trained KSSes, not auditions that seem no different than Up-front staff going out, seeing the first 3-4 teenage girls & go "hey ya don't look horrendously ugly, join H!P's flagship vocal group!" Not putting down the likes of Koharu or Sayu, they do look all kawaii & hot, but honestly I can't see them possibly reaching the pinnacle of Sakura's vocal prowess or Riho's dancing ability.
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Yay just got my ticket for a terrible behind the stage seat but good news since the seat sucks it wasn't that expensive lol. Feel a little bad cause it was the last ticket to Budokan they had at the shop and someone was on the phone trying to get it but I was like "no I want it" At least now I can see he new members!
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YA'LL WE ARE SO CLOSE AND I AM PUMPED.
I have my fave trainees, but I really just love the trainees in general so I am stoked to see some (or one....!?) of them debut. :luvluv1:
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I want someone to twitter @ me the result because I have a feeling I'll be at uni when the news come out. :lol:
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I cannot wait! I haven't been this excited for an audition for awhile and it's cause I legit really like the trainees right now.
I have an assessment/evaluation for work in the afternoon so this concert will be the perfect thing to make me feel better if it sucks lol.
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(http://i.imgur.com/9oD9e4R.jpg)
Kanatsu Mizuki
(http://i.imgur.com/tKoj7pU.jpg)
Nishida Shiori
(http://i.imgur.com/s7vbKXp.jpg)
Takase Kurumi
(http://i.imgur.com/8tRgZbe.jpg)
Danbara Ruru
My hopes
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It's official, the 13th generation members are:
Reina Yokoyama
Kaede Kaga
Congrats to the winners!
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Congrats to Reina and Kaga!
Announcement clips:
https://twitter.com/hello_puro_suki/status/808242101322252288
https://twitter.com/hello_puro_suki/status/808242340305346560
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I'm so excited about Kaga-chan! I've been waiting since Lilium for this.
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Congratulations
Lucky Thirteen!
Kaede chan
& Reina chan!!
(http://picroda.jphip.com/hp/jphip37983.jpg)
Erina, Kaede, Reina, and Mizuki
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Heyyy both girls were among my hopes/guesses :lol: :lol: Probably the first time for that...
YAY KAEDY!! WELL EARNED!!! I cried when she cried. But then again, it's not that hard to make me cry these days, goddamnit.
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I actually cheered out loud when I saw this. Go Kaede!
On a side note, I'm also glad that there's finally a 2 member generation. It bugged me that we've had 1nin, 3nin, 4nin, and the original 5nin, but no 2nin until now.
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I AM SO HAPPY FOR KAEDE OMG :cow:
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AramaJapan.com - Morning Musume 16′ adds two new members for their 13th generation (http://aramajapan.com/news/music/morning-musume-16-adds-two-new-members-for-their-13th-generation/68111/)
- http://aramajapan.com/news/music/morning-musume-16-adds-two-new-members-for-their-13th-generation/68111/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15RDQGkL9VM
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Hehe, so Kaede's a fan fav. Good for her.
Congrats to both these girls! ^_^
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL82KogJI50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHEfNTyGowc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDtI2SZohmc
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I dunno about Reina II ( :D) is it wise to put someone who only had Kenshuusei training for less than 3 months? Remember the 13th gen girls share the part to shoulder Morning Musume's 18-year reputation
Will be waiting for Nakazawa, Yasuda, & Kaorin to state their public approval of Yokoyama :P
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There's been a ton of girls added from straight up auditions only with NO KSS training at all, so I don't think that should raise concern. LinLin was only in for two months before joining Momusu. Maho was only in for about the same before Angerme and Tomoko from J=J only had three months training and they've all been great (imo) additions to all of their groups. :thumbup
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I look forward to learning more about Reina Chan...
But for now, let's travel to
Kaga Kountry!
(http://picroda.jphip.com/hp/jphip37984.jpg)(http://picroda.jphip.com/hp/jphip37985.jpg)
(http://picroda.jphip.com/hp/jphip37986.jpg) (http://picroda.jphip.com/hp/jphip37989.jpg)
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ハロプロ研修生・加賀楓(かがかえで)2013冬 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a-ri_Ga_Dk)
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TokyoHive.com - Two 13th generation members join Morning Musume (http://www.tokyohive.com/article/2016/12/two-13th-generation-members-join-morning-musume)
- http://www.tokyohive.com/article/2016/12/two-13th-generation-members-join-morning-musume
- http://natalie.mu/music/news/212961
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AramaJapan.com - Morning Musume 16′ adds two new members for their 13th generation (http://aramajapan.com/news/music/morning-musume-16-adds-two-new-members-for-their-13th-generation/68111/)
- http://aramajapan.com/news/music/morning-musume-16-adds-two-new-members-for-their-13th-generation/68111/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15RDQGkL9VM
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Had not seen this clip...
Kaede and Reina are informed by Mizuki....
Then the rest of the members find out...(hint: watch Sakura's reaction)
New Era starts tomorrow!
(http://picroda.jphip.com/hp/jphip38096.jpg)
モーニング娘。'16 13期メンバー決定の瞬間! 横山玲奈・加賀楓 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGWeANfHU84)
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New member colors were announced at Countdown today!
Kaede = Italian Red (...basically just Red, like a smidge brighter)
Reina = Golden Yellow (...So dark than Honey's, lighter than Duu's orange)
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Had not seen this clip...
Kaede and Reina are informed by Mizuki....
Then the rest of the members find out...(hint: watch Sakura's reaction)
New Era starts tomorrow!
Is this the first time that the new members are first informed by the Leader? Usually Tsunku's the one doing it
Come to think of it: Mizuki herself was in that same position, back when Tsunku announced "there is still one more"