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Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: Masabi on March 23, 2007, 07:23:29 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7eEham6yOI4

"As everybody knows, "LOVE Machine" is Tsuku's interpretation of Bananarama version of "Venus" ...." from the love machine section of this site (http://park10.wakwak.com/~techno/tsunku.html#Morning%20Musume).

That site makes it look like common knowledge but is it really??  Was this ever officially produced in a magazine??  It does sound a lot like it.. the bass line at least.. and the whole "feel" of it.

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Also, they say Koi no Dance Site is a cover of "Dschinghis Khan".  I can hear more similarities in this.  It's almost exact.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=c3mIvZg8XIU @ 1:29 in the video.


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Let's not only discuss these similarities, and other ones you've noticed too.
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: StreakInTheSky on March 23, 2007, 07:49:11 AM
Dschinghis Khan FTMFW!!! That song was on regular rotation in the IRC for weeks :lol:

marimari loved that song and vid :/


I can't really think of other off the top of my head.

I remember there being a discussion about Manpower, but can't remember the song it sampled.
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: Larken on March 23, 2007, 07:49:38 AM
I remember seeing a comparison between Aruiteru and a Korean song on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orm_AzntG_I
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: reyfer on March 23, 2007, 07:53:50 AM
I remember thinking "wow, this Balalaika song sounds a lot like A MILLION russian songs..." but maybe it's just coincidence? :D
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: DO Me DO Me on March 23, 2007, 08:02:07 AM
Quote from: StreakInTheSky;336135
I remember there being a discussion about Manpower, but can't remember the song it sampled.
that weird noise just before they start singing the song was thought to be a part from the Sabre Dance (http://youtube.com/watch?v=70i95-HL3Hc) sped up and probably backwards?

I thought the beat to Osaka Koi no Uta sounded like No Doubt's "Hey Baby" I did have a clip where the beats of both songs were combined together.

and I remember alot of people mentioned that the guitar part in Sexy Boy sounded like the chorus of Billy Joel's "We didn't start the fire" :lol:
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: StreakInTheSky on March 23, 2007, 08:08:52 AM
:lol: yeah it was that song!
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: Ms. McBackpack on March 23, 2007, 08:29:31 AM
Sometimes it's just straight up copying from other songs. Like v-u-den's Bi ~Hit Parade~ and that N.E.R.D. song. And people said Nukegara's intro is like some Police's song's intro.

And listen to this song's intro. Which H!P intro does it sound like? :D
http://download.yousendit.com/D543FDEB41E3F1CA

I like both song. :P
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: Shoko on March 23, 2007, 08:37:54 AM
Oh God



Balalaika sounds like Neopolitan no Sauce, which is a character song from Negima!? sung by the characters Motsu & Shichimi.

Joshi Kashimashi Monogatari 2/3 is similar to Shuuseki Bangou no Uta, which is a character song from Negima! sung by Class 2-A (the girls all sing a verse about themselves.. go figure.)

Mayonaka no Philosophy (also from Negima!?) sounds like something Ayaya would sing.

Whatever Paradise sounds like Infinity Love 2U/YELL@ (both Negima!? songs)

Never Give Up! could be a W song.

Ponpon ryoute ni areba Win could also be a W song.

Kono Machi by Hajime Chitose could be a Maeda or Yuko song.

And I'll stop there.



(By the way, Negima! is the first series and Negima!? is the second, semi-AU one)
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: TydusArandor on March 23, 2007, 08:54:59 AM
The beginning of W's "Miss Love Tantei" sounds awfully similar to t.A.T.u's "Not Gonna Get Us". Really similar. You can almost hear the words :doh: . I forgot where I read this, it was on thePPN or something.

"Miss Love Tantei" → http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLY5oF7KXnw
"Not Gonna Get Us" → http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWlvMVc2RH8

The following are both Tsunku produced but hey, they're not both H!P x_X. It's Berryz Koubou's "Special Generation" and Tokitou Ami (TNX)'s "Sentimental Generation" (XD they both even have a word in common). It's not actually that similar though, it's only in certain parts and the parts pretty much fly by pretty quickly. For example, in Berryz Koubou's, the "Special Generation" part and in Tokitou Ami the beginning ("bokura no sedai ga").

"Special Generation" → http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8g9b3VNoF4
"Sentimental Generation" → http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTn8H_AJuKk

On the note of Negima! image songs, I think I remember that I thought Chiu's image song sounded a lot like some other song. I *think* it was an H!P song but I'm not sure.
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: Shoko on March 23, 2007, 09:01:31 AM
Suki ni Natte mo e- yo. IT SOUNDS KINDA LIKE MIKI/OLD SCHOOL AYAYA. Now that I think about it XD

Like, Yeah! Meccha Holiday/I dunno Aenai Nagai.
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: shadowstar on March 23, 2007, 09:50:00 AM
Goto's "Some Boys! Touch" was inspired by Madonna's "Vogue", both in terms of video and the song. With the song, it's the whispering part at the beginning that's the most noticable when it comes to similarities between the two.
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: soveryshiny on March 23, 2007, 01:40:43 PM
Quote from: reyfer;336140
I remember thinking "wow, this Balalaika song sounds a lot like A MILLION russian songs..." but maybe it's just coincidence? :D

Balalaika is the name of a Russian folk music instrument.  In the last 100-200 years it was also used heavily as an orchestra instrument.  So basically it sounds like a billion Russian songs because it uses one of the instruments most associated with Russian music.

Anyway, for one of the really obvious ones:
Berryz Koubou's Jiriri Kiteru borrows heavily from Chopin's Revolutionary Etude.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hOKcdZJJFU  Not the first song to do so either, Kakumei from DDR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12J9KemWMfE is probably one of the better known ones to do so.  Funny is the number of times I heard "this sounds like a DDR song" about it because of that, without anyone recognizing the classical origin ^^;
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: freya86 on March 23, 2007, 02:55:46 PM
Quote from: soveryshiny;336349
Balalaika is the name of a Russian folk music instrument.  In the last 100-200 years it was also used heavily as an orchestra instrument.  So basically it sounds like a billion Russian songs because it uses one of the instruments most associated with Russian music.


Well, duh! I guess nobody knew that ... :D

Quote from: Shoko;336163

Joshi Kashimashi Monogatari 2/3 is similar to Shuuseki Bangou no Uta, which is a character song from Negima! sung by Class 2-A (the girls all sing a verse about themselves.. go figure.)


Onyanko Club have also done a song like that ... Kaiin bango no uta ...

Quote from: Ms. McBackpack;336159

And listen to this song's intro. Which H!P intro does it sound like? :D
http://download.yousendit.com/D543FDEB41E3F1CA

I like both song. :P


OMG, that's so Egao YES Nude ... incredible! Btw, I also love both songs :P
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: kingthaking81 on March 23, 2007, 03:07:29 PM
what about Maki's Afurechau be in love being very similar to Jessica Simpson's irresistible or something~
This is a fun thread!!
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: reyfer on March 23, 2007, 03:15:06 PM
Quote from: soveryshiny;336349
Balalaika is the name of a Russian folk music instrument.  In the last 100-200 years it was also used heavily as an orchestra instrument.  So basically it sounds like a billion Russian songs because it uses one of the instruments most associated with Russian music.


Ï know that, I was being sarcastic, because if you search hard enough, you will always find similarities between different songs. Take a U2 song, and compare it with some Beatles songs, chances are you'll find one or two that make you say "hey, this is where they got that from". Same happens to H!P music, same happens to ANY music
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: shadowstar on March 23, 2007, 03:30:27 PM
Quote from: kingthaking81;336381
what about Maki's Afurechau be in love being very similar to Jessica Simpson's irresistible or something~
This is a fun thread!!

Haha, that too! XD It's so similar that it makes you go "Wait, a minute...!"
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: flamingmoe on March 23, 2007, 04:03:32 PM
Salt 5's "Get Up! Rapper" and Queen's "We Will Rock You"
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: coachie on March 23, 2007, 05:54:15 PM
Maki's Uwasa no Sexy Guy could be the theme for a Bond movie.
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: Masabi on March 23, 2007, 05:56:39 PM
^I think that was the point, since it really sounds similar.
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: Nouciel on March 23, 2007, 06:30:59 PM
I should have know better by The Beatles is similar to Berryz Koubou's VERY BEAUTY, although the first one is more country-ish.
And look for almost any good salsa song, and it's gonna be similar to 21ji made no cinderella XD
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: BX_LeMans on March 23, 2007, 08:03:26 PM
Quote
Also, they say Koi no Dance Site is a cover of "Dschinghis Khan". I can hear more similarities in this. It's almost exact.


I can't hear any smilarities except for the "Uh Ha" . Ah, no wait.
In Dschingis Khan its "Hu Ha!" - in Koi no Dance Site its "Uh Ha!" :D
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: ~Dan~ on March 23, 2007, 11:11:48 PM
Aisha Loan De uses the riff from "My Sharona" by The Knack.  When pronounced in Japanese (Aisha Roan-de) the title sounds very similar too.

Quote from: Ms. McBackpack;336159
And people said Nukegara's intro is like some Police's song's intro.

And listen to this song's intro. Which H!P intro does it sound like? :D

Yeah just the opening part sounds like the intro to "Message In A Bottle" by Police.

Tokyo Performance Doll?  No idea what the song is supposed to sound like, but is there any connection with Osaka Performance Doll? (OPD featured Inaba Atsuko in one of their lineups).

Quote from: TydusArandor;336173
The beginning of W's "Miss Love Tantei" sounds awfully similar to t.A.T.u's "Not Gonna Get Us". Really similar. You can almost hear the words

Almost?  You can hear the words.  I noticed it right away from the moment I heard the first radio preview.
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: hibachifinal on March 24, 2007, 03:39:40 AM
Koi no dance and SharanQ's tomodachi wa imasuka have similar sounding "Aiyaiyaiya~! Sore sore sore sore~!" parts..
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: karcharrat on March 24, 2007, 07:07:51 AM
Ever since I first heard Sexy Boy, I've been convinced they lifted it from a Mega Man game.  I like the Mega Man music (especially from Mega Man 2 and 3), so it's not a complaint, just an observation.  Every time I hear it, it makes me want to play one of the games... :D
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: Ms. McBackpack on March 24, 2007, 07:25:52 AM
Quote from: ~Dan~;336676
Yeah just the opening part sounds like the intro to "Message In A Bottle" by Police.

Tokyo Performance Doll?  No idea what the song is supposed to sound like, but is there any connection with Osaka Performance Doll? (OPD featured Inaba Atsuko in one of their lineups).

Ah, that's the title. Thanks, Dan. :)

I never heard of Tokyo Performance Doll before this either. I just got the song from 2ch when they were discussing the similarity.

It's Berryz Koubou's Munasawagi Scarlet.
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Post by: ChiruChaCha on March 24, 2007, 01:18:12 PM
Miki Fujimoto's "Romantic Ukare Mode" always reminded me of Village People's "YMCA" but just the music arrangements and maybe an especific part.
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Post by: bot on March 24, 2007, 03:21:31 PM
Kanashimi twilight calls to mind Yamapi's Daite Senorita imo....
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xDB73SobSo
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: Kei on March 24, 2007, 04:00:03 PM
What about H!P songs with other H!P songs?

Ayaya's 100kai no KISS and MKB's saa, sassoku ni moriagete ikou ka!! are the EXACT SAME SONG with different arrangements and lyrics.

Also, Tanpopo's otome pasta ni kandou is some Beatles song that I can't recall the name of.
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: ~Dan~ on March 24, 2007, 08:40:10 PM
Quote from: Kei;337207
Tanpopo's otome pasta ni kandou is some Beatles song that I can't recall the name of.

Ah yeah, I can recognise it but can't remember which song it is.

Quote from: Ms. McBackpack;336961
It's Berryz Koubou's Munasawagi Scarlet.

Which part?  I can't hear any resemblance.
Title: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: Purpus on March 24, 2007, 08:41:13 PM
Quote from: Kei;337207

Also, Tanpopo's otome pasta ni kandou is some Beatles song that I can't recall the name of.


It has the backbeat of the interstitial portion between "Strawberry Fields Forever" and "Penny Lane" as well as something of "Getting Better."  

Another Tanpopo-Beatles matchup would be "Baby Cry" and "Savoy Truffle" (which precedes a song called "Cry Baby Cry" on the "The Beatles" CD)
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Post by: bloo_pie on April 01, 2007, 05:58:21 PM
Salt 5's "Get Up! Rapper" and Queen's "We Will Rock You"

i always thought it sounded like the Macarena. but i can see the resemblence to WWRY in the chorus.
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Post by: tamatron on April 01, 2007, 06:01:35 PM
Which part?  I can't hear any resemblance.
The intro. 8)
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Post by: ~Dan~ on April 01, 2007, 06:15:19 PM
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Ayaya's The Bigaku yet.  It always reminds me of Livin' La Vida Loca.

The intro. 8)
The drumbeat?  That's a bit tenuous isnt it?
Title: Re: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: tamatron on April 01, 2007, 06:56:56 PM
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Ayaya's The Bigaku yet.  It always reminds me of Livin' La Vida Loca.
The drumbeat?  That's a bit tenuous isnt it?
Well, I think they're identical, with the Ah thingies too.
Title: Re: Similarities in some H!P songs to other non-H!P songs?
Post by: num2son on April 02, 2007, 12:01:08 AM


Also, they say Koi no Dance Site is a cover of "Dschinghis Khan".  I can hear more similarities in this.  It's almost exact.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=c3mIvZg8XIU (http://youtube.com/watch?v=c3mIvZg8XIU) @ 1:29 in the video.


Wow, the song is very good in its own.
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Post by: Dj-B13 on April 02, 2007, 12:13:50 AM
that weird noise just before they start singing the song was thought to be a part from the Sabre Dance (http://youtube.com/watch?v=70i95-HL3Hc) sped up and probably backwards?


oH man, haha I hear a big resemblance in thise with Manpower  :D
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Post by: Koolmon93 on April 02, 2007, 05:25:59 AM
Maki's Uwasa no Sexy Guy could be the theme for a Bond movie.

Wasn't the PV James Bond-esque anyway?
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Post by: Tyball on April 02, 2007, 05:41:31 PM
Also, they say Koi no Dance Site is a cover of "Dschinghis Khan".  I can hear more similarities in this.  It's almost exact.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=c3mIvZg8XIU (http://youtube.com/watch?v=c3mIvZg8XIU) @ 1:29 in the video.

Yeah I hear the similarities, but for some reason it also reminds me of FGTH's "Welcome To The Pleasuredome" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c01OpiCvoM)... maybe it's the "U-HA" parts - and also that a "Khan" is mentioned in the lyrics, not Dschinghis but Kublai. :D
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Post by: Gblue on April 03, 2007, 09:32:32 AM
the opening of "yaruki! its easy" sounds a lot like kylie minogues "locomotion" to me. its a very kylie-esque song and i only just heard it  ^-^
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Post by: tempethegreat on April 19, 2007, 11:57:56 AM
The beginning of W's "Miss Love Tantei" sounds awfully similar to t.A.T.u's "Not Gonna Get Us". Really similar. You can almost hear the words :doh: . I forgot where I read this, it was on thePPN or something.

only at the beginning.........
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Post by: ~Dan~ on June 29, 2013, 01:09:44 AM
Looks like Tsunku used a BBC sound effects record and sped it up a little for the intro to Shabondama.

Check this out, from a radio show broadcast in 1985!

http://www.mediafire.com/?ae4xv19exvh2bwx (http://www.mediafire.com/?ae4xv19exvh2bwx)
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Post by: amphibious7 on July 05, 2013, 06:36:34 PM
talk about similarity...

Aisha Loan De with The Knack' My Sharona

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZqS5qXwkf8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZqS5qXwkf8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbr60I0u2Ng (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbr60I0u2Ng)

Happy Summer Wedding with Donna Summer' Hot Stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh695gSiwo8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh695gSiwo8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IdEhvuNxV8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IdEhvuNxV8)
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Post by: krpsygafan on July 21, 2013, 03:23:38 PM
They don't really sound similar, but yesterday Peter was going through my iPod songs and he saw Circle of Life and expected the Lion King but it was the Kamen Rider Kiva song!
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Post by: elgie on August 20, 2013, 02:06:45 PM
When Go Girl! Koi no Victory first came out the first thing that came to my mind was Pat Boone's "Speedy Gonzales".

http://youtu.be/i3uuVbuucHA?t=1m5s (http://youtu.be/i3uuVbuucHA?t=1m5s)

http://youtu.be/9do1CqaqWkY?t=1m12s (http://youtu.be/9do1CqaqWkY?t=1m12s)

Also, most of Tanpopo's discography is directly drawn from the Beatles, but the most blatant examples would be the piano chords in Be Happy Koi no Yajirobee and the use of the harpsichord in Koi wo Shichaimashita:

http://youtu.be/POXeztEWOQo?t=3m16s (http://youtu.be/POXeztEWOQo?t=3m16s)

http://youtu.be/zI0Q8ytD44Y?t=1m45s (http://youtu.be/zI0Q8ytD44Y?t=1m45s)

(In My Life's harpsichord started my love for baroque music :wub: )


Aaaaaand, I would swear the intro in Nanchatte Renai comes from a classical piece but I can't find which one  :huhuh
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Post by: Scramasax on August 23, 2013, 05:24:06 AM
スマイレージ 「オトナになるって難しい!!!」 (MV) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNpIGK_klbA#ws)

vs.

The Cardigans - Never Recover (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq4eBXkMawY#)
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Post by: J-Triumf on August 29, 2013, 09:09:50 PM
This is technically not H!P so not sure if it counts, but I was listening to the acoustic version of Kikka's "Kikkake wa You" earlier and realized the main intro/outro melody sounded like a Lupe Fiasco song...
Kikkawa You - 1st Single : ''Kikkake wa YOU!" (*The Reason is YOU!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2vMUr7HvCE#)
Lupe - Fiasco- Coming Up ft. MDMA (Lyrics) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdQPaKOWFPw#ws)

Both songs were released around the same time (Lupe's was first by two months), and were possibly recorded around the same time as well, so no telling who inspired who here; it's most likely a crazy coincidence. Actually I just remembered all the drama and delays surrounding the Lasers album, so maybe that tracked leaked and gave inspiration? :lol:
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Post by: J-Triumf on August 21, 2016, 09:31:49 AM
"Utakata Saturday Night" = "Never Gonna Give You Up" 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIW3MYCdb2A
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Post by: J-Triumf on August 22, 2016, 02:28:29 AM
^ I should also add to that: "Love Together" by Berryz Kobo...seriously, try singing "Never Gonna Give Up" over the chorus :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M9TJpLTcw8

Another song with a chorus just like that: "Bacchikoi Seishun" by Kobushi Factory!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtjqUqT_uiQ

It's colloquially known as the "Royal Road chord progression", and it's one of the most (over)used chords in j-pop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VuAS1ksuYI

The stretched out version of the chords, famously exemplified in the chorus of Frankie Valli's "Can't Take My Eyes Off You", can be heard in the chorus of Juice=Juice's "Keep On Joushou Shikou" (fastforward to 1:14)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3ewojUpI6U&t=1m14s

It's led to me eventually creating this "Love Machine" remix:
https://soundcloud.com/j-triumf/rickroll-machine



How about a reversal of this topic? MC Frontalot's "Mornings Come and Go", released in 2014, sounds pretty similar to the 2005 Berryz classic "Special Generation":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpceBDt2RBU