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General => Akihabara => Geek Guides => Topic started by: Masabi on November 29, 2006, 07:11:06 PM
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I'm sorry but I didn't know where else to ask this! Can someone give me an easy to read step by step guide as to how to install and use Share? I've tried to use it before but it wouldn't download anything, I would get only search results. I have since deleted it so I would need a full (yet simple) guide.
I'm sorry if this has already been addressed elsewhere and a mod can refer me to a thread or delete this topic if it has. Thanks in advance.
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I don't even know how I figured it out so I can't really explain it myself but this is the guide I used. :)
http://uguu.org/share/
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^That's the guide I used before that only allowed me to see results and not download..
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http://forum.jphip.com/showthread.php?t=6168 That thread ended up kind of turning into a tech support one for Share and Winny. Otherwise if you could be more specific with what you're having problems with I can probably help you set it up. Almost sounds like you didn't set up a download or cache directory before.
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^ Yeah but I'm such a noob that nothing on that thread will help me. I just want to set it up.
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I'd suggest just following that Uguu guide again, then posting a description of what happens if you have any problems so we can help you with specific problems instead of trying to write another guide from scratch. The thing that it sounds like you missed the last time you tried was that you have to set a cache and a download folder when setting up folders.
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^ It's happening again and I have set folders.. I've searched and clicked download for a few things and it's stuck on "initializing".
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It says that where? In the downloads tab? or?
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Yeah. This is the same problem I had before, which made me stop using it..
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Find the folder.ini file in your share directory and post its contents here please. Also the config.ini file's contents would be helpful. Plus what operating system/service packs you have installed.
Oh, and a screenshot if possible of the share window. I don't use it in English so it's hard to know for sure what the error is from the English translation.
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I'm getting the error "Disconnected due to port error" on the log screen.. [edit] i'm not behind any firewall or router either
folder.ini:
[CacheFolder0]
Path=C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\Share10_ex2\
Quota=0
[UpFolder0]
Path=C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Videos\
ID=
[UpFolder1]
Path=C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Videos\DVDISO\
ID=
[DownFolder]
Path=C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\Downloads\
Quota=0
[PrimaryCacheFolder]
Path=C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\Share10_ex2\
config.ini:
[Profile]
DefaultID=
[Network]
UpSpeed=150000
DownSpeed=50000
Port=30101
DisconnectLowSpeedUpload=0
DisconnectLowSpeedDownload=0
[Performance]
KeyCount=10000
ReduceThreadPeak=1
[Action]
EnableEasyFolder=0
EnableEasyCache=0
UseWideSpaceSeparater=0
EnableMultipleDownload=1
AutoDiffuseNewLink=1
EnableFadein=1
UseZoneId=1
TurboDiffuse=0
ShowSleep=0
[Quota]
EnableQuota=1
QuotaMargin=1000000000
AlertSpaceSize=100000000
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Is it possible windows' built in firewall is on? You didn't say what version of Windows you're using...
You usually don't want to use the main share folder as your cache folder, but it doesn't actually hurt anything that I'm aware of.
All the rest of the settings look ok, although do you actually have 150k/s upload but only 50k/s download? And you might want to disable the quota (change the 1 to a 0 in the EnableQuota line)
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Is it possible windows' built in firewall is on? You didn't say what version of Windows you're using...
You usually don't want to use the main share folder as your cache folder, but it doesn't actually hurt anything that I'm aware of.
All the rest of the settings look ok, although do you actually have 150k/s upload but only 50k/s download? And you might want to disable the quota (change the 1 to a 0 in the EnableQuota line)
Oops I must've switched the download and the upload. And I will disable the quota if it helps. I'm using Windows XP Home, and I'm sure it's not on, I specifically disabled it.
[edit] Nevermind the firewall was on because I forgot to turn it off when I redid my computer. That will fix it?
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I'm getting the error "Disconnected due to port error" on the log screen.. [edit] i'm not behind any firewall or router either...
I don't wanna burst your bubble here, but even with the helpful hints from soveryshiny, i guess you're screwed... :|
Your symptoms probably mean that your Internet service provider has some of those high end Cisco firewalls on their side, that can automatically drop the connections to most of the p2p sharing systems...
I should know, i have the exact same issue. :doh:
On my work computer using the main ISP acces, Share disconnects after a few seconds...
On the same computer using the backup access (not the same ISP), Share works just fine... (but, the backup access sucks in term of speed, so i can't really use it anyway).
:(
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^ Read my post edit, I realized I was behind the windows firewall D: I'll try it and if it doesn't work oh well~
It's downloading! Thank you guys for your help! *___* -idolizes-
[edit] Is there a way to know how fast a particular download is going? it says how fast it's downloading in general but I have two downloads going?
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^ Read my post edit, I realized I was behind the windows firewall D: I'll try it and if it doesn't work oh well~...
Lucky you... so i'm the only screwed one after all... :cry:
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^ Read my post edit, I realized I was behind the windows firewall D: I'll try it and if it doesn't work oh well~
It's downloading! Thank you guys for your help! *___* -idolizes-
[edit] Is there a way to know how fast a particular download is going? it says how fast it's downloading in general but I have two downloads going?
It's amazing how often that firewall is turned on on computers that people were sure it was turned off on ^^;
If you look at the tasks tab it shows how fast each task is going. If it's downloading the same file from more than one source then you just have to add each task's total together yourself. Unless all the tasks are for the same file, in which case just see the total number it has at the bottom.
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Lucky you... so i'm the only screwed one after all... :cry:
Poor baby -pets- D:
If you look at the tasks tab it shows how fast each task is going. If it's downloading the same file from more than one source then you just have to add each task's total together yourself. Unless all the tasks are for the same file, in which case just see the total number it has at the bottom.
Ah, thanks! *loves* :3
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lol, I'd actually be leaving the filewall on. Or you might get someone give you a trojan or exploit some Windows service.
What you should try to do is add Share to the exceptions list of the firewall so only Share can accept incoming connections and not all the windows services as well.
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you may want to try this service happosai i know a couple people who's ISP's were blocking their torrent dowloading programs and now after they got this they dont have the problem anymore i almost got it but then i moved so i dont need to anymore here it is :
http://www.http-tunnel.com/html/solutions/http_tunnel/client.asp
should work for you it cost a little bit but its worth it if you are having problems like you said.
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I've never had a problem with the windows firewall. When I start a new prog for the first time it pops up a box saying something is trying to access the net, and I can allow or deny, and that's it.
I've got a 2nd firewall running as well, just to be safe.
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lol, I'd actually be leaving the filewall on. Or you might get someone give you a trojan or exploit some Windows service.
What you should try to do is add Share to the exceptions list of the firewall so only Share can accept incoming connections and not all the windows services as well.
I've been firewall-less for like 5 years or something~ and I've never caught anything~
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I've been firewall-less for like 5 years or something~ and I've never caught anything~
oh, what about this?
^ Read my post edit, I realized I was behind the windows firewall
You can never be too careful that's all, be sure you're Windows is always up to date too.
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Thanks
I have another problem: it isn't adding new downloads? please help~~
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Most common reasons for that I've seen are if you moved any of the folders (moving an upload folder can cause it to stop accepting new downloads in the down list) and if you just have too many in your list already. But that limit is somewhere around 50.
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I didn't do either of those (only had 6 in my download)
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Alright, have you added any filters or triggers? Other reasons I've had something not add was because I had a filter set to prevent it and because a trigger had already downloaded it for me ^^; Otherwise, are there any error messages on the log page? Or any of the drives full?
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i think the drive was full. it's working now
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I'm hoping for a quick answer. Can you resume your downloads in Share? I kinda need to do some research and need all the bandwidth I can get.
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I'm hoping for a quick answer. Can you resume your downloads in Share? I kinda need to do some research and need all the bandwidth I can get.
yeah, when you close the program, the file you're downloading is saved in the cache.
when you open share again, the download will resume from where it left off
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hiya, so im downloading this .iso file and its been going along fine. however, today, it seems to have been stuck at 96.3% for the whole day. Share says i've been download, but the size number doesn't seem to change. Is there something wrong or is the program just slow at updating?
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hiya, so im downloading this .iso file and its been going along fine. however, today, it seems to have been stuck at 96.3% for the whole day. Share says i've been download, but the size number doesn't seem to change. Is there something wrong or is the program just slow at updating?
maybe there is no one uploading it?
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but if no one has been uploading it, i should be able to downloading anything correct? the counter at the bottom is going at 30-100kB/s for a while now
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but if no one has been uploading it, i should be able to downloading anything correct? the counter at the bottom is going at 30-100kB/s for a while now
on the download tab, do you see a percentage? if you do, it's downloading, if you see xxx/xxx (x is a number), then it's not downloading
in the query tab, entries in yellow have all the pieces ready to download, entries in white are not complete and should not be downloaded until the entry turns yellow (as long as there is an uploader(s) of course)
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yea theres a percentage. but the size doesn't seem to be changing. and i dunno if the entry is in yellow or white, cuz its blue now ><
nvm, its on yellow, so all the pieces are there, but the "downloaded size" doesn't seem to be changing
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try closing the program and reopening it again, it will reconnect to resume the download since it's saved in the cache
don't know if it will work but it's worth a try
you did say you were getting about 100kb/s on the download, seems weird that the filesize is not going up
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Check the tasks tab, if it lists that file as downloading then it is.
With share and winny, it's possible for the program to be downloading even if none of the stuff in your queue is. It could be search node traffic, it could be acting as an intermediary downloading for someone else, it could be downloading from someone that's diffusing a file, or it could be downloading something random essentially for the hell of it.
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or it could be downloading something random essentially for the hell of it.
Winny once downloaded an episode of Doraemon that I know I never asked for. :doh: XD
Can someone with share have a look and see if 山口百恵 - "MOMOE LIVE PREMIUM" is available. (Not "MOMOE PREMIUM", that's something else.)
There's an 88mb version on winny but it's fake. The real version will be somewhere in the region of 700mb, possibly larger. I don't want anyone to download it for me, just let me know if it's there. I've not installed share but I will do if it's on there.
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I have a quick question if anyone wants to answer...so I've got like 40 things in my download tab. About 10 of them are just 3-6 blocks away from being complete, but they've just stopped and sat there for the last couple days. Is it just because whoever I was leeching from is now gone or could there be something wrong? Also, is it necessary to change your node list thing? I just copied a giant list from that one site (don't remember it atm) and things worked so I figured I was good. I was under the impression that share and winny worked like kazaa and stuff where you could only download complete files and things wouldn't show up in searches unless they were complete copies of the file (maybe I'm wrong about kazaa and them too).
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I've got like 40 things in my download tab. About 10 of them are just 3-6 blocks away from being complete, but they've just stopped and sat there for the last couple days. Is it just because whoever I was leeching from is now gone or could there be something wrong?
they may have stopped uploading, thats more than likely why
Also, is it necessary to change your node list thing? I just copied a giant list from that one site (don't remember it atm) and things worked so I figured I was good. I was under the impression that share and winny worked like kazaa and stuff where you could only download complete files and things wouldn't show up in searches unless they were complete copies of the file (maybe I'm wrong about kazaa and them too).
here's a couple of node lists
http://node.nextp2p.info/
http://www.stereoz.net/node/
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I was under the impression that share and winny worked like kazaa and stuff where you could only download complete files and things wouldn't show up in searches unless they were complete copies of the file (maybe I'm wrong about kazaa and them too).
That's very incorrect. Both will start grabbing something as long as a search node tells it that what your grabbing exists. When you're browsing with share, stuff you can see a complete copy of remotely is colored orange-ish for the filename. Other stuff is grey/white. Red means someone has flagged the file as false - whether it actually is or not... Since with diffuse uploads it's quite possible for people to have a few pieces of random files they've never even downloaded themselves, Share will start grabbing at any time. You have to keep in mind that Share only tells you about what it sees at that exact moment from its search and transfer nodes. Its quite possible to start something while its showing as incomplete, then finish it later once your client has talked to a few more nodes and found someone with a complete copy. It's also possible to start something that shows as complete, then have it turn out that it was a rare file which only the one node that told you about it in the first place had a complete copy of, and you'll never connect to that node again.
For the record, the longest anything ever took for me to complete on Winny was 1.5 years. With share I think 6 months. So sometimes if you just leave it in your queue long enough you do eventually find another complete copy.
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Hm okay thanks for the info. Yeah I think I copied the node list from that http://node.nextp2p.info/ site. But I see dates next to the adressess, so is it necessary to copy new lists or does it matter (for instance I copied the list like a week or so ago...everything still works but am I out-dated node-wise?)
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You only need a node list to get connected to the network initially. After that it rapidly acquires new node info from the ones it connects to. Under the info screen it should say how many nodes it knows about, it has a 10000 node max limit. Occasionally it's a good idea if you're switching clusters to activate your new cluster words, then hit the delete all nodes (after you're already connected to the network) so it can rebuild its list automatically. Usually takes just a few hours to get back up to that 10000 node limit.
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'nother quick question since it's bugging me...is there a way to identify what files in your cache folder belong to which downloads? I thought the hash numbers would match but either I'm blind or they don't. I've got 94 files in my cache but only 30 downloads, seems like I've got a ton of useless cache files using up my hdd space but I can't figure out which ones are okay to delete >_<
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There's actually a third party cache manager that shows you everything in your cache and can force decode incomplete files by 0 filling the missing blocks. I have to run off to work right now though, I'll post a link to a zip of it already setup (it's a pain to do intially) and you can mess around with it, I won't have time for instructions until later ^^;
http://www.filepulse.org/files/313/temp/sharetool.zip
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Okay thanks soveryshiny, I'll wait for some instructions. :D
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Ooops, sorry, forgot ^^; Here's an IM conversation of me explaining it to someone else that covers it all, let me know if there are specific questions on how to use it.
[08:06] Meebo: basically, unzip it in your share dir and then edit all the paths under 密告\密告
[08:07] Meebo: CacheDir=C:\download\cache
is where your share cache is
IdxPath=C:\download\Share\cache.idx
ShareCCPath=C:\download\Share\[tool] ShareCC002\ShareCC.exe
DownDir=J:\download
[08:07] tina: What are the IdxPath and ShareCCPath? is that the paths in the program/stuff you're sending me?
[08:07] Meebo: IdxPath=C:\download\Share\cache.idx
is where the cache.idx file in your share folder is
ShareCCPath=C:\download\Share\[tool] ShareCC002\ShareCC.exe
is one of the folders in what I'm sending you
DownDir=J:\download
is your download dir
[08:08] tina: Okay, thanks
[08:08] Meebo: winny stores stuff like file name in the files in the cache. Share doesn't, it's all in the cache.idx file
[08:08] tina: Ah, I get it
[08:09] Meebo: also stores what kind of cache file they are
[08:18] Meebo: you have to close share when you go to use it
[08:18] tina: Okay
[08:18] Meebo: and change the stuff in the settings.ini in its folder first, of course
[08:19] Meebo: after that, open it, click file up top, and then load
[08:19] Meebo: and it'll read your cache
[08:21] tina: Ah, Okay
[08:21] tina: file up top?
[08:22] Meebo: top menu
[08:22] Meebo: ファイル
[08:22] Meebo: in 密告.exe
[08:22] Meebo: which now that I look you can going into settings there
[08:23] Meebo: and choose all the directories that way too
[08:23] tina: Okay
[08:24] Meebo: working?
[08:26] tina: Sorry, was doing another thing, lemme change the ini settings and try
[08:31] tina: Yes, it worked
[08:32] tina: So how do I make it copy the file over and insert all the Os
[08:32] tina: 0s
[08:37] Meebo: right click, decode
[08:38] tina: Thanks
[08:38] Meebo: I wouldn't try that with that DVDISO though
[08:40] tina: Okay
[08:40] Meebo: it takes longer than a regular decode to do it that way, so doing 7gbs like that would take forever
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Thanks. I've everything set up, configured the settings.ini in the wierd exe folder and opened it, but when I hit load it says open err cache.idx, then something else illegible and seems to do nothing. I have my download, upload, and cache folders on a separate drive than the share folder with the cache.idx, not sure if that matters. *Huzzah* NM got it working, I forgot to add the cache.idx and sharecc.exe onto the end of the paths, and I still had share running. Ok I think I have it figured out, one question tho...is there any way to make the font or those boxes bigger? I can barely read what the hell the files are, thing is like size 3 font O.o Well, anyway super duger gigantic huge thanks soveryshiny, I had 250GB of shit wasting my new hdd away! Damn that was pissing me off, I feel good now with all that space back haha :D
A question about the "decode" though...basically that will just convert the file, but the data it hasn't finished downloading won't be there still correct? So say I were to use that on an avi that had 4 blocks missing and wouldn't finish. After "decoding" i'd have the AVI, but those 4 blocks of data would just be blank resulting in that area of the video being nothing correct? And if thats the case, couldn't you just force convert an incomplete file in Share itself?
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possibly. if the missing blocks are at the beginning of the file (ie: the avi header) then there's a good chance the entire file won't play at all, and you may have to use a program like vdub to manually reconstruct the file. if the missing blocks are in the middle/end, then it should play fine, minus a little skipping. you also may experience some audio-sync problems.
be warned, avi is just a file container, so you may very well get mixed results depending on what the actual codec is.
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ok thats what I thought. I was just using a video file as an example. Hmm maybe I will try it on that ISO that's missing 1 block tho...
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er, yeah i doubt it'll work with the iso. sometimes you can recover partial data from zip files if there are missing blocks, but for the most part, archival formats don't withstand data loss very well.
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Font and font size are via the ini file in the directory. It looks normal to me, but it may have been set to use a font you don't have ^^; Look at the bottom of the settings.ini in the 密告 directory, there should be a section like this:
[FONT]
FontName=ＭＳ Ｐゴシック
Size=12
CharSet=128
After "decoding" i'd have the AVI, but those 4 blocks of data would just be blank resulting in that area of the video being nothing correct? And if thats the case, couldn't you just force convert an incomplete file in Share itself?
Share stops decoding the file at the first missing block. So if you have a 50 mb file and you're missing just block 26, you'll only get the first 25 megs. If you use the decode utility I upped, it'll fill block 26 with zeros and decode the other 49megs around it. Where it's most useful is when you have multiple partial zips of the same thing. I've had it where I had three different partially completed downloads of the same album, with missing blocks at different points. I forced converted them all, then did a repair on them in WinRar, then extracted the files that were complete from each archive to end up with one complete copy of the album.
Other than that, if you have an almost complete avi file that you really want to watch, do a forced decode and then rebuild the frame header with vdub or DivFix. With mpegs your player should skip the bad part automatically.
With ISOs, you're usually screwed. Only reason to decode partial ones of those is to make sure they're not fakes. Even then you're better off using the normal share decode, since it's faster and will stop at missing blocks.Your best bet is with rar files, since often they're upped with 1-3% recovery record. You can always recover some data from them anyway, but if they have the recovery record you're likely to be able to get a complete, good copy out of the partial file.
Late reply, I never got the new message email notifications...
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Just a quick question, was anyone here able to download the complete BestShot Volume 16 ISO?
[DVDISO]Hello! Project BESTSHOT!! vol16 (070223).ISO 3,567,624,192 ae00e1f5cf2309f959145f8e0dbc762685c75901
Mine's been on 96.8% since the weekend. Which kinda sucks although I was able to use the tool soveryshiny posted to convert the cache and then I mounted the iso in daemon tools and ripped it with dvd decrypted and just it seemed to just skip the missing bits ok.
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Haven't been on share for a while, but http://www.hello-online.org/index.php?act=tracker&CODE=details&torrent=6391 there's a complete one there that you should be able to finish your forced decode with.
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Got another question for the resident share/winny senpai soveryshiny: I think I've realized that a significant amount of upload and download bandwidth is being used by share because I keep queries open, which are constantly using bandwidth. I remember reading you saying its best to just add triggers and browse your database instead of using active searches. So I just added all my triggers, set them to add to DB only but my question is where do I browse through my DB? I've tried looking all over share but can only think maybe i have to do a search with the DB button only selected >_
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Yes. I usually keep some common ones open with just local or DB set for the view. Important tip: You can't have one on dvdiso set to DB and another set to local, but you can have DVDISO on DB, dvdiso on local, and DVDiso on remote if you want. The searches are case insensitive but it doesn't consider them identical if you vary the case like that.
That said, winny/share just like to use bandwidth. If you're not using some all of yours for downloading/uploading, they'll find something to do with it, either becoming a search node for someone else, being a pass along download node, or accepting someone elses distro upload. If you want to control their bandwidth then I highly, highly recommend using something like NetLimiter to control the ul/dl amounts rather than worry what they're being used for.
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Okay thanks. Yeah I have Netlimiter, although when I first got Share I tried limiting the ul/dl on it using netlimiter, only to find that my PC had crashed and rebooted overnight. This happened to me twice, and by process of elimination it had to be caused by using netlimiter to limit the program, so I haven't tried that since (really jacks up my encoding =/ )
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I've had blue screens in tcpip.sys from the combination of the two twice ever. Seems to be a problem with Share and not NetLimiter itself. But yeah, annoying to wake up to that. It's happened so rarely though, like I said two times out of a couple years using share now so I just accept the risk.
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Holy Necromancy Batman~
I can't download. It's happened to me before, but I forgot how I remedied it. Logs don't say anything of course, and upload is fine. I've tried re-adding folders quite a few times, but it just won't make any connections.
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Any tips on what clusters I shoud use? I'm currently using モーニング娘 (Morning Musume), ハロー!プロジェクト (Hello Project), 音楽 (Music), PV, and MP3. But I still get generally poor results.
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I was told the cluster the wota's use is モーニング娘。松浦亜弥藤本美貴
(That's for winny, I dunno if its the same for share).
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Thanks a bunch. That seems to give me a lot more search results.
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I've been having a problem with Share recently. It keeps disconnecting because of a port error. I checked my router and firewall and they are both working OK, and my firewall has Share unblocked so that isn't a problem. Does anyone know how to fix this? Thanks.
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Is this program still relevant? I missed the boat on the Princess Princess DVD box set and can't afford the $700-1000 "used" price on the auction market. I'm starting the great hunt.
Or are there underground torrent sites, hidden from evil gaijins?
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You bet Sab, I use this only and not any other tracker besides JPH!P's.
The shit is. Older titles are harder to get.
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This DVD set was released in 2007 so... maybe the iso files are there?
Sorry, still crawling through this thread. Need "Share for Dummies" guide.
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I even can not find "share" source to install .... T,T
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Anyone has experience using Share in virtualbox guest Win7 64-bit environment?
After lots of tweaking, it can finally search keywords and even upload files but so far I haven't downloaded single byte of data for unknown reasons. :cry:
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Share works fine on Win7, only problem is that there are no seeders, maybe its your Firewall or a Port problem ?
My Problem is the Port ^^, but its not much used anymore...
(http://thumbnails107.imagebam.com/27138/d48a2c271379478.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/d48a2c271379478)
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I am getting "disconnected due to time check error" after running for several hours.
I think my ports are fine because I can download things with perfect dark. Just no luck with Share. :doh:
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Interesting. After I create a new folder, copy Share.exe, locale.txt, hint.txt and re-setup the program. It works again! :pimp: