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Title: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on May 29, 2007, 07:32:04 PM
This thread is a place for dumping all your complaints and anger towards H!P.
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This thread is a replacement for the old "bashing/hating thread". The mod staff received several complaints about the old thread, so let's try this again with a few guidelines.

+ NO physical/personal threats towards the girls in H!P
Example: it's completely unnecessary and un-classy to say something like I want to smash _____'s face in or she should die.
You can complain, but there's no reason to say something violent. It crosses the line.

+ Use this thread for venting, leaving your anger, dumping your criticism etc. DO NOT use it for starting arguments or picking up a fight.
If you can't handle reading bad stuff about your favourite members, you're recommended to avoid this thread.

I've heard that some people used the bashing thread to get back at someone who bashed their faves by bashing their faves, and it became sort of personal. Let's try not to have something like that here. If you know someone's post is going to piss you off, ignore it. Scrolling down fast isn't that difficult, seriously!

One more thing. Hating and insulting the H!P girls is by no means encouraged at this forum; this thread is simply here so that when you sometimes feel bummed about something, there's a place where you can complain about it. This is NOT meant for daily bashing needs. I think I speak for 90% of the members when I say I feel good when I don't see this thread on the first page.

I hope we've all reached an understanding. :shakeit:
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: daigong on May 29, 2007, 07:44:45 PM
LOL GJ shirenu. Remember :P

Even though this is a bashing thread, Rika-hating will get you banned  :)
(feel free to diss other members as much as you want)
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Loopy on May 29, 2007, 08:07:40 PM
Miki needs to lose the pissed look she constantly has.  I've noticed Ohtani Masae has this problem too.  Rika could definitely do away with the constantly giggly cute act.  Nacchi has become so sugary sweet that it's become repetitive.  Aika's just ugly.  Same for Inaba.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Kyobu on May 29, 2007, 08:41:37 PM
Iida Kaori, grow you hair and stop trying to be so regal all the time.  I don't understand why when H!P girls reach 20+ they decide they have to start acting around 40.  Becoming an adult doesn't mean you have to cut your hair and start acting all regal.  I think in your 20's you should start upping the sex appeal as opposed to your teens.

Also, I'm sick of GAM for two reasons.  Firstly, why has all their material so far been so forgettable (yes, I know, it's my opinion)?  Secondly, there was no need to take Ayaya's solo career away for GAM.  Sure, her sales were dropping, but look at someone like Gocchin.

SOME BOYS! and Glass no Pumps were both pretty high sellers for a H!P soloist lately, and then we get SECRET, your typical low-selling ballad.  Ayaya's last few singles have sold really badly, but the thing is, they're your typical low-selling ballads (not counting Ki ga Tsukeba Anata).  Here's an idea, give her a decent song as opposed to taking away her solo career all together, I doubt we'll see Maki getting put into a unit anytime soon, so why Ayaya?

BUT BESIDES THAT, YAY H!P!  AND YAY FOR ME NO LONGER HATING NIIGAKI 8)
(Edit: Actually, that Aijou Oasis song is pretty hot)
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: jimmy on May 30, 2007, 12:36:36 AM
Reina Tanaka, eat a sandwich. I haven't seen legs that scrawny since we looked at pictures of WW2 concentration camp survivors back in history class.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Loopy on May 30, 2007, 12:48:22 AM
Reina Tanaka, eat a sandwich. I haven't seen legs that scrawny since we looked at pictures of WW2 concentration camp survivors back in history class.

QFT!
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: arun.yothin on May 30, 2007, 12:56:56 AM
There are a couple other girls I wish would eat more. More than I would like to list. D:
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: ferrar1 on May 30, 2007, 02:05:36 AM
I wish Miki could just realize how lucky she is being in H!P and MM. Sometimes i really diss her attitude of being nonchalant and act as if she's indispensable.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Shin Asuka on May 30, 2007, 03:05:29 AM
Ok heres one.

People need to stop moaning about Photobooks not being scanned. If they want to see it so badly why not buy the damn thing already. Don't give excusses about not being able to afford one, I know some of you are unfortunate to buy one but the rest of you are so dependent on the internet that you believe that it would magically scanned so you don't need to. Tough and deal with it, get a job or save money.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: misugi on May 30, 2007, 03:40:18 AM
Miki doesn't deserve to be in MM.  I can see her evilness since the 4ki audition.  It shows out even more when she's with innocent MM members.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Shoko on May 30, 2007, 05:38:13 AM
I really don't like Mari for some reason.

Oh and Miki needs to stop with the bitch act too kthnx.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Kulkulkan on May 30, 2007, 05:39:07 AM
How is it that freaking Berryz and C!ute members are getting bikini photobooks?  I frankly have no interest in these, or anyone who would buy this trash.  At the same time, when is the last time any graduate besides Rika or Nacchi got their own?  A new Kei Yasuda book would be great, as many folks seem to have discovered that, yes, they would hit that.  Gee, folks, a photobook that you would nt fear might get you jailed for child porn :shakeit:
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Imperx on May 30, 2007, 06:11:55 AM
DAMN IT Konno why did you have to leave!!! Please come back one day as a solo artist or something!!! Until then this is me> :mon cry:
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: jaasai on May 30, 2007, 08:00:49 AM
Damn you Miki for being straight.

Thats is all...
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Nouciel on May 30, 2007, 08:54:08 PM
Koharu and Momoko ruin H!P. And Miki finally got her opportunity to get out of MM and she loses it. Also C-ute >>>> Berryz. In terms of vocals, personality, beauty, cuteness, ability to dance and much more.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Miichan on May 30, 2007, 09:03:24 PM
I know its a rumour and it can turn out to not be true but if it is ...
the kago nude pics ... so cheap kago so cheap x_X

Berryz koubous songs suck x_o they need more gag bun somethingsomething ...

and to all the people that hate tsuji for the baby thing ... would you rather shed be a mother of a dead child? X_X
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Loopy on May 30, 2007, 10:53:42 PM
I can't stand the H!P Kids because they're kids!  I like seeing beautiful women to wank to, not a bunch of little brats running across the stage!  That and all the pedophiles who wank to them is just...ugh...
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Angelus on May 30, 2007, 11:02:14 PM
I dislike Sayumi. I wish she would at least try with her vocals instead of relying on her image, and even that doesn't look good. At all. I think that forgettable 10 year old C-ute girl looks better, and that's a sad thing.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: BigDnm01 on May 30, 2007, 11:30:20 PM
From what i heard about Kago, u know, the "nude" thing...  I'm just really disappointed in her right now, although this hadn't been confirmed yet, it's still in rumor phase.  although this ain't the first time. 
in the beginning, in Feb. 2006, aibon was caught smoking.  this was before i was a fan.  but afterwards after watching and knowing the MM/H!P members and their history, watching videos and whatnot i've begun to miss her.  Afterwards, I think she should get a second chance and awaiting her return in H!P.  the beginning of 2007 looked promising, but then she was caught smoking, AGAIN, plus with a boyfriend.  okay though the boyfriend is shocking news, but i figured if she's happy, let her be, like miki right now...   But after knowing about her boyfriend, i begin to feel down.  and the smoking thing didn't help either.  she not only smoked once, but twice, and i thought she learned her lesson. 
Now this rumors about her nude thing is really disappointing.  i've lost hope in her now.  after they announce that she's leaving H!P, i still hope to see her again.  Then the news about joining a local agency back home, brings a lil bit of hope.  but now...
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Susu123 on May 31, 2007, 10:21:27 PM
C-ute would be so much better if it wasnt for Airi. God shes so annoying and un-pretty. She reminds me of a pug. She needs to get a bf or something so they can kick her out of c-ute. yup then c-ute would be A-OKAY.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: harlock on June 01, 2007, 01:36:43 AM
I don't find Maki Goto attractive anymore.                                                     At All.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: ohno on June 01, 2007, 02:30:57 AM
I don't like how most of the PVs are cheap and, as a result, cheesy. Most of the time, they're just a compilation of close-up shots where wind is blowing on the girls and shots of them dancing. I think they produce the PVs that way so that they can sell different versions of the same video to fans who will buy anything. The videos could have more impact if they told some kind of story or if they were more aesthetic.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: tamatron on June 01, 2007, 11:03:38 AM
Fuck you, Miki. Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you.

For crashing ex22.

How the heck am I supposed to read this fic I'm so addicted to now?

Fuck you.

Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Shin Asuka on June 01, 2007, 05:36:30 PM
I hope some of you are happy now. Miki's gone. Now Who am I supposed to worship now >_>
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: JFC on June 01, 2007, 05:48:36 PM
I hope some of you are happy now. Miki's gone. Now Who am I supposed to worship now >_>
You can still worship her. Just because she's decided to resign from MM doesn't mean she's disappearing from the face of the earth.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Shin Asuka on June 01, 2007, 06:16:06 PM
I hope some of you are happy now. Miki's gone. Now Who am I supposed to worship now >_>
You can still worship her. Just because she's decided to resign from MM doesn't mean she's disappearing from the face of the earth.

Not appearing on HaroMoni doing weird stuff, less tv air time including Alo Hello's, Music Stations, Random Videos Morning Musume appear in. She may not be gone but we'll see less of her -_-
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: elgie on June 01, 2007, 06:40:10 PM
Ah, so she's entered into Yossi mode then  :P
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: bloo_pie on June 01, 2007, 11:49:24 PM
i am PRAYING Takahashi will be like the other Momusu leaders and hardly get any lines. i'm 99% sure it's not gonna happen, but i can still dream...
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Miichan on June 02, 2007, 12:00:41 AM
X_X kya X_X without mikis voice in momusu ... momusu will sounds so ... awful x_o they all have so high voices x_X
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: misugi on June 02, 2007, 04:02:47 AM
^
Ai-chan and Gakisan are those left with low voice, if they leave then... :cry:

Wait and see how the chinese girls sing.  In the clip I saw, Jun Jun does have a low voice. :oops:

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I'm pretty sure that Miki ain't the one who resigns to take responsibility for what she did, like Mari did.  If she wants to take it, she should have resigned a week ago.  But, when being in Momusu and having boyfriend cannot go with each other, she chose to leave.  UFA might then want her to resign in a good way and had her says the same thing as Mari.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: magurosan on June 02, 2007, 05:02:34 AM
I don't like how most of the PVs are cheap and, as a result, cheesy. Most of the time, they're just a compilation of close-up shots where wind is blowing on the girls and shots of them dancing. I think they produce the PVs that way so that they can sell different versions of the same video to fans who will buy anything. The videos could have more impact if they told some kind of story or if they were more aesthetic.

I AGREE WITH YOU!!! I want to see at least BOYS BOYS BOYS in the video... Or an interesting story just like Rain, Ayumi Hamasaki or Koda Kumi's videos.

I dislike Koharu. She should just quit MM.
 :wub:YAY FOR MIKI WHO LEFT THE GROUP. Honestly that was her dream.

And... I agree with the C-ute > Berryz thing. Honestly Berryz has more experience but C-ute is way better.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Miichan on June 02, 2007, 05:35:43 AM
Why cant they just put
Yaguchi, Kei, Yuko, Nacchi and Kaori in one group.
Yossie, Mai and Ayaka in one.
And bring back Gomattou~  :heart:

I hate that they have lots of girls just doing nothing -.-
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: miki on June 02, 2007, 05:10:06 PM
I don't like how most of the PVs are cheap and, as a result, cheesy. Most of the time, they're just a compilation of close-up shots where wind is blowing on the girls and shots of them dancing. I think they produce the PVs that way so that they can sell different versions of the same video to fans who will buy anything. The videos could have more impact if they told some kind of story or if they were more aesthetic.

I AGREE WITH YOU!!! I want to see at least BOYS BOYS BOYS in the video... Or an interesting story just like Rain, Ayumi Hamasaki or Koda Kumi's videos.


LOL. i always wanna see a romance story PV of MM. but i think it gonna crash fanboys hearts xDDD
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: jChu* on June 02, 2007, 10:24:20 PM
HaroMoni@ are so damn boring these days....
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Blu-Cherri on June 03, 2007, 04:33:45 PM
^totally agree!!, I watched a few episodes but then i realised i was only interested in the koharu aika chinese bit.
They're now the only strong personalities, the others just start to seem so much like each other on this show...on H!M they all seemed....better...T___T

I wish someone would start just uplaoding the chinese segment!
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Rina the Robot on June 20, 2007, 04:57:37 AM
Can we please give other members a chance with photobooks?  :banghead:
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Daisuki Daiiyo on June 21, 2007, 02:31:40 AM
^ Like Koharu? :P

Why cant they just put
Yaguchi, Kei, Yuko, Nacchi and Kaori in one group.
Yossie, Mai and Ayaka in one.
And bring back Gomattou~  :heart:

I hate that they have lots of girls just doing nothing -.-

lol then some pissy wota might start bitching about how their girl doesn't get enough lines, and how they wish they were solo, and we'd be back to square 1. Like those wota who want Rika to go solo.

Rika, ilu, but you cannot sing bb. No solo for you, and would it hurt for whoevers arranging lines for Viyuden to give Erika and Yui more chances to shine? Koisuru Angel Heart was an okay song, and I doubt I'd like it any better if they did balance out the lines more, but it'd be nice.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Imperx on June 21, 2007, 06:07:36 AM
DAMN IT Konno why did you have to leave!!! Please come back one day as a solo artist or something!!! Until then this is me> :mon cry:

My cries didn't go unheard. :mon thumb:

Can we please give Yuko Nakazawa a photobook, enough with all the underage girls getting one!
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: raiknii on June 21, 2007, 04:38:03 PM
Fujimoto Miki-san, please stop putting your hair up. I don't like you, but I will admit you are gorgeous and sexy and pretty. However, when you put your hair up, you look like a bunch of triangles. The bottom half of your face is a triangle. Your shoulders slope, so there's a triangle there too. It's fugly.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: redux on June 22, 2007, 07:39:46 PM
I'm pretty damn sure she hasn't yet...so could Ogawa please leave H!P already? She has done bugger all since leaving Momosu and she could have done us a favour by leaving properly along with Konno.

Niigaki, get a new voice, you can't sing for toffee love.

Miki, you tit.

C-ute, stop dressing with the short skirts and shit, I don't like it. Not one bit.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: chibilolli on June 22, 2007, 09:13:25 PM
I dislike Sayumi - Nuf said
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: TripleT on June 23, 2007, 05:16:28 AM
Hagiwara Mai resign from H!P please
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: shurastriker on June 23, 2007, 05:57:19 AM
Gaki-san get a haircut plz

Tsunku stop making weird experiments with morning musume

Yoshie, remember to eat more please, food is good
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: ShoujoHino on June 24, 2007, 02:52:49 AM
Chisato, when you first joined you looked like a bratty little boy. You still look like a boy and you still act bratty and snobby and think you're cute for some reason. plz quit.
And for Atsuko too. You're past your prime, not all of us can age like Yuko. You look like a cross between a horse and a chipmunk and no one goes to Elder Club to see you, so quit.

Yossi-Mai-Ayaka group NOW plz.

And Mai needs some proper parenting or she's going to be the next Britney Spears.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: tenkei on June 24, 2007, 05:31:20 AM
Yossi-Mai-Ayaka group NOW plz.

qft.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: mini*wheat on June 24, 2007, 05:48:00 AM
While we're on the list phase...

Ai Kago - I don't think you're a slut. But I will moan about the people that think you are based on rumors and dating a significantly older man. That means nothing. NOTHING I say.

Tsuji Yumiko (thanks for correcting me, Reyfer) - Stop doing drugs. Your Mai/Koha song sounds like you snorted something mind-altering and played with a keyboard for two seconds.

Reina - Stop trying to wink. You look like you are in pain.

Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: reyfer on June 24, 2007, 06:21:52 AM
While we're on the list phase...

Ai Kago - I don't think you're a slut. But I will moan about the people that think you are based on rumors and dating a significantly older man. That means nothing. NOTHING I say.

Tsunk - Stop doing drugs. Your Mai/Koha song sounds like you snorted something mind-altering and played with a keyboard for two seconds.

Reina - Stop trying to wink. You look like you are in pain.


I completely agree with you on the Reina thing, but Tsunku didn't write the Mai/Koha single. Both songs are written by Tsuji Yumiko. So far Tsunku has not written any of the Kirarin Revolution songs. My guess is that given the singers, there was not much the songwriter could do
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Brat-san on June 24, 2007, 10:25:25 PM
It's been a year, someone change Airi's hair. :(

Edit: I'm gonna rephrase that, I'm tired of the hair she had in Ookina Ai, Sakura Chirari, and Megiru Koi no Kisetsu. XD
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: chokkan 2 on June 25, 2007, 12:16:07 PM
It's been a year, someone change Airi's hair. :(

Edit: I'm gonna rephrase that, I'm tired of the hair she had in Ookina Ai, Sakura Chirari, and Megiru Koi no Kisetsu. XD

me too .........


after all these years, I still don't like Momoko .....
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: bloo_pie on June 26, 2007, 01:57:34 AM
whoever thought it was a good idea to constantly put Maimai's hair in updos have successfully earned themselves a swift kick in the butt.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: magurosan on June 29, 2007, 02:51:26 AM
The stylist that dress up THE Possible: Please stop dressing the girls as if they were sluts (they attended an event once with pretty short skirts). They're girls. GIRLS.

Ai Takahashi: That haircut sucks. You don't look like a leader.

Koharu: Quit. Quit. Dedicate to Anime, quit MM. Please.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: needextrasalt on June 29, 2007, 03:30:53 AM
GIVE MIYA A SOLO SONG ALREADY
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Pinkosa on June 29, 2007, 11:08:57 PM
^Agreed.

NOW GIVE YURINA A SOLO PB PLZKTHNKSBYE!
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: THUNDERDUCK on June 29, 2007, 11:33:51 PM
As usual I'm tired of all the H!P Kid promotions.  Promote Elder club since most of the cooler members are out of MM.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: miki on June 30, 2007, 04:00:23 AM
sayumi,koharu,aika. still annoying to listen.
dislike MM under takahashi lead.
the formation is  :-\
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: chao_88 on June 30, 2007, 12:30:44 PM
Get rid of koharu from MM pliz,,, never like her since she joined,, :banghead:
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Phaedra on June 30, 2007, 07:50:47 PM
As usual I'm tired of all the H!P Kid promotions.  Promote Elder club since most of the cooler members are out of MM.

They shouldn't promote the future of H!P?  :rofl:
Have any of the older artists/bands sold out SSA without MM being there BTW?

And to my abbreviated rant... Umeda, Mitsui, Arihara :banghead:, thanks.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: chokkan 2 on October 09, 2007, 06:05:15 PM
I thought this thread was deleted until Shirenu post the link @ Reina's thread XD

ok ...

I think Koharu's nice PB is OMG-ly AMAZING XD  she's absolutely gorgeous :wub:  BUT I STILL I don't like her !!!!!   ummm ..... love the figure but not the soul ??? (Is it ok to use the word "figure" ??  if not, please help me find another word. My English sucks)


Also my dearest Gaki ~ Athena is annoying me !!!! I can't even understand a single word X_X .... All I can hear was a high pitch voice !!!   Even now,  I can only understand 50% >_<""
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: JFC on October 09, 2007, 06:21:43 PM
  ummm ..... love the figure but not the soul ??? (Is it ok to use the word "figure" ??  if not, please help me find another word. My English sucks)
"Figure" is fine. It's more tactful at least, and better than using the word "body" in this case.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: shurastriker on October 09, 2007, 08:33:19 PM
4th generation plz don´t ever graduate!!!

tsunku plz stop the anime wave!!! no more plz!!!

Mikitty!!! plz don´t disapear for a full year!!! damm tsunku, damm H!P, damm upn, damm all

Mikitty!!! go sing in the gatas unit, 10 is not a team, 11 is a real team XD
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: isuzu on October 09, 2007, 08:58:07 PM
Tsunku, stop givind Risako all the lines, she can't sing and she hurt my ears. kthxbai
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: doinkies on November 17, 2007, 06:03:42 AM
Dear Pony Canyon Cover Designers,

For the next Buono! single, please make a cover that doesn't look like you whipped it up in MS Paint in 10 seconds.

Love,

doinkies
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Amaya on November 17, 2007, 06:43:47 AM
I wish UFA would make MM subgroups again. Random units are fine, but subgroups would make my day. Revive Mini Moni, Tanpopo and Pucchi Moni with current MM members, such as:

Tanpopo:
Eri, Risa, Junjun

Mini Moni:
Aichan, Koharu, Sayumi

Pucchi Moni:
Reina, Aika, Linlin

And also bring back Sakura/Otome gumi with the current line-up:

Sakura:
Eri, Junjun, Aichan, Risa, Aika

Otome:
Reina, Sayumi, Koharu, Linlin

Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: SomethingWild on November 17, 2007, 09:51:32 AM
I don't like that there are 4 versions for most MM singles. Plus, the content of the 'bonus dvd' in the limited edition is way to less. It's a dvd, so it could easily contain the original pv too. In fact, I think the entire single V content should be on the bonus dvd. 
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Masabi on November 29, 2007, 05:24:33 PM
^ I would say just download the bonus ISO at H!O or something and burn it, and then buy the regular single so you don't waste your money.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: shadowstar on December 01, 2007, 03:57:58 AM
There are certain members in H!P that I think have been WAY overrated and over-hyped for years now.

They keep getting pushed to the spotlight but I don't see why, they don't really have 'stage presence' and aren't that great in singing to begin with.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: LaJon on December 01, 2007, 04:45:01 AM
Any of the interesting/talent people have fallen into obscurity.  But who cares? LOOK AT THE KAWAAIIIII GIIRRRLS  :angry:
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: shadowstar on December 01, 2007, 05:03:07 AM
Any of the interesting/talent people have fallen into obscurity.  But who cares? LOOK AT THE KAWAAIIIII GIIRRRLS  :angry:

Exactly.

I choose personality over looks all the time, a certain idol can be the prettiest/cutest/most gorgeous in the world, but if she lacks personality or is just not interesting, I can't like her that much. These days, it seems H!P is just pushing forward 'looks'. Well, more so than usual.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: LaJon on December 01, 2007, 07:10:13 AM
Any of the interesting/talent people have fallen into obscurity.  But who cares? LOOK AT THE KAWAAIIIII GIIRRRLS  :angry:

Exactly.

I choose personality over looks all the time, a certain idol can be the prettiest/cutest/most gorgeous in the world, but if she lacks personality or is just not interesting, I can't like her that much. These days, it seems H!P is just pushing forward 'looks'. Well, more so than usual.

Indeed.  It always comes back to what Ishibashi said to Ishikawa, Yasuda, Iida, Yaguchi, Nacchi, Nakazawa, Tsuji, and Goto in that reunion Utaban:

"How about the eight of you come here again some time?  The current members are a bit weak to my taste.  Like a meal that doesn't really fill your stomach."
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: THUNDERDUCK on December 01, 2007, 10:12:37 AM
I third that^
Cute/hot can be found in any gravure magazine.  I want some talent, too!
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: SomethingWild on December 13, 2007, 10:11:10 AM
I need to rant haha.. Why I'm losing interest in H!P, group by group:

1. Current Morning Musume. They are are still my main reason why I still check out h!p, but it's getting less interesting. ONSA was kinda generic and Mikan was decent but not too great either..

2. Melon Kinenbi. They have potential for sure, but it rarely comes out fully. They also have too little appearences on tv and stuff..

^Those are the good groups, now the problems:

3. Too many kids groups. I really don't care for them. The latest BK and Cute single were actually pretty good, so maybe there's hope..

4. V-u-den. Tsunku needs to get of hiss ass and starts working on decent new material. Viyuden appeared as guests on the 2007 Musume tour because they don't have enough new material for a tour on their own. And Morning Musume needed to compensate for the loss of Yossi and Miki.
Their popularity is dropping because of crappy songs like jaja ume. A sexy cover isn't enough. Just look at the sales figures.. lower and lower.. Tsunku is probably ignoring them because Rika is in OG.

5. Athena & Robikerottsu. Nice for the Gaki fans, but their too childish for my tastes. Not only that, but the cute members seemed so uninterested in the pv..

6. Ongaku Gatas. This is actually a pretty nice group, but they haven't released a single song I liked so far. This is very personal, so I don't have anything bad to say about the group itself.

So.. what needs to happen?
-More Morning Musume members. i think that will spice things up a bit.. go back to the 15-nin Musume. Preferably some older girls again like JunJun.
-New decent Viyuden material! If BK and Cute can get decent songs, so could Viyuden.
-More Melon Kinenbi promotion, don't let them die.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Pinkosa on December 13, 2007, 04:30:50 PM
^Yeah, MKB is probably the most talented group in the whole H!P but they barely get promotion or tv appearences. Those girls need more promotion! It would be sad if they die on the shadows.

I'm also losing my interest in H!P, they're not appealing to me anymore. BK is the only real reason why I'm still in the H!P fandom. °C-ute is just there for me, MM girls are not enough for me anymore. Tsunku please, give me some reasons to stay in the MM fandom next year, please.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: shurastriker on December 16, 2007, 04:02:27 PM
stop abusing of the PB i want music and pics as a plus but not the opposite
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: shadowstar on December 21, 2007, 08:54:46 AM
I wouldn´t be surprised if a certain H!P girl is sleeping with a high-ranking UFA staff member to get more spotlight and more ´merchandise´out there  XD
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: shadowstar on December 21, 2007, 04:30:51 PM
I wouldn´t be surprised if a certain H!P girl is sleeping with a high-ranking UFA staff member to get more spotlight and more ´merchandise´out there  XD

well, it's legal in Japan to sleep with anyone she want if she's over 13 yrs old and agreed ..... so ..... hmmm..... let me think who always got push into the spotlight with no apparently reason whatsoever  .......

I can name one that immediately pops into my head, but I don´t want a stake driven through my heart at the moment, haha.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: anammm on December 21, 2007, 04:44:17 PM
I wouldn´t be surprised if a certain H!P girl is sleeping with a high-ranking UFA staff member to get more spotlight and more ´merchandise´out there  XD

well, it's legal in Japan to sleep with anyone she want if she's over 13 yrs old and agreed ..... so ..... hmmm..... let me think who always got push into the spotlight with no apparently reason whatsoever  .......

I can name one that immediately pops into my head, but I don´t want a stake driven through my heart at the moment, haha.
I could name several, but i don't wanna be banned :lol:
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: chokkan 2 on December 21, 2007, 10:58:18 PM
WHY THE FUCK AYAKA IS DOING NOTHING !!!  WTF !!!!!

also Gaki needs a new PB !!!!!!!!!!    (maybe also 8th gen, but will Jun/Lin accept the job .... coz their family may oppose)
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: shurastriker on December 24, 2007, 02:01:44 AM
WTF AYAKA DO NOTHING, MIKI DO NOTHING.... THEN DO GAM plz? ToT
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: xerony on December 26, 2007, 07:21:38 PM
How is it possible that such young girls like in C-ute and Berryz Koubou are getting photobooks...
It's happening more in Japan lately, some fathers want their daughters to be famous and make photobooks of them.
This is almost pedophilia in my eyes.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: chokkan 2 on December 26, 2007, 08:02:58 PM
It's happening more in Japan lately, some fathers want their daughters to be famous and make photobooks of them.
This is almost pedophilia in my eyes.


definitely pedo ....... 

I don't know why they let 8 yrs olds to have T-back PBs :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

well, it least NOW underage nude PBs are illegal ......



anyway,

I want Hello! Morning damnit  :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: !!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: mode107 on December 27, 2007, 03:55:51 AM
Quote
I want Hello! Morning damnit

I also want that back, with the Maido Arii too. (with Eri as Kamezou)
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: BomberG on December 30, 2007, 06:31:42 PM
The Broader Implications:
(http://xs122.xs.to/xs122/07520/tsunku.png)
for me this face would also spell the imminent DOOM of berryz kobo :mon hi:

~ C'est La Vie ~
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: shurastriker on December 30, 2007, 07:23:58 PM
OMG... Tsunku plz stop trying to act kawaii XD you are an old man not a little girl

and plz graduate sharamQ already
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Linlingrl on January 11, 2008, 03:13:42 AM
Well...I'm a little tried of H!P doing Love Machine all the time, I know that's there market of a new beginning and there best selling single but it's starting to get really really annoying. Plus I think Yurina and Miyabi should get more line in BK. Even though Miyabi is a lead. Also, I want 8th gen to have a PB it's taking too long for them to announce it.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: yumestarlet on January 13, 2008, 10:23:26 AM
Needs less Reina. So, so much less Reina.
Needs MUCH more Linlin, and more Junjun, too, but DEFINITELY more Linlin. That girl is AMAZING.

And please let the next Berryz single (not Jingisukan-- whatever will come after that) be better than the ones they've been getting lately.

In the TNX realm, PLEASE let the Canaria Club get some better PVs. The PV for "FAITH!" was just atrocious. Seishun Banzai's was amazing, though, so I don't understand what happened to make the plain white set (er, well, gray, with that awful lighting!) rear its ugly head again. Those girls deserve much better than that.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: shurastriker on January 26, 2008, 10:59:43 PM
the !"$$%$& how they dare to disand v-u.den T____T
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: JFC on January 26, 2008, 11:03:30 PM
^ Indeed. Somehow you just know that we're not likely to hear from Erika and Yui that much after it happens.

Edit:  :angry:
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: SomethingWild on February 21, 2008, 10:48:58 PM
Am I the only one who thinks these collection PBs are kinda stupid?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what i understand it's a book with around 150 pages with the 'best' photos from older PBs and some new pics? That's not what I'd call "complete works". And who's going to decide what the best shots are? That's really personal imo.

Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: mode107 on February 21, 2008, 11:03:46 PM
Give Umeda Erika a PB dammit.  That's gonna be insulting if little Mai gets one. before.  I like Mai, nothing against her, but come on!  Erika.PB.Now.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: flamingmoe on February 22, 2008, 01:05:40 AM
Am I the only one who thinks these collection PBs are kinda stupid?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what i understand it's a book with around 150 pages with the 'best' photos from older PBs and some new pics?
No, these collections contain unused shots from those photoshoots. The making-of dvd also includes unreleased footage. And in some cases, like Takahashi's, they include extra shots from a new photoshoot.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: shurastriker on February 22, 2008, 06:05:28 AM
YEAH, ERIKA PB NOW... DAMZ

oh and i hope that in the end of MM all singles tour they played ALL SINGLES... otherwise *¬_¬

Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: mini*wheat on February 22, 2008, 06:07:46 AM
Let Junjun and Linlin sing in the concerts! I know they get their own little "shuffles" or whatever... but they are part of a GROUP. Geez. In the Bonkyu concert, they were almost like Momusu's personal eggs.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: BigDnm01 on March 20, 2008, 01:55:10 AM
Not that i really hate Koharu........  but she's kinda annoying and not much of a singer.  She's cute and adorable, i admit that.  but her "look at me" and "in ur face" attitude is really getting annoying.  She wasn't like that back in the day when she first started.  Maybe the popularity is getting to her head.  She also doesn't seem to respect her sempais much these days, at least imo.  probably there is no strong figures and personalities, like Yossy and Mikitty, to keep her in check or that she looks up to. 
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: shadowstar on March 21, 2008, 04:56:56 AM
Not that i really hate Koharu........  but she's kinda annoying and not much of a singer.  She's cute and adorable, i admit that.  but her "look at me" and "in ur face" attitude is really getting annoying.  She wasn't like that back in the day when she first started.  Maybe the popularity is getting to her head.  She also doesn't seem to respect her sempais much these days, at least imo.  probably there is no strong figures and personalities, like Yossy and Mikitty, to keep her in check or that she looks up to. 


She wasn't 'like that' before because she was still awkward and shy, she was still trying to fit into the group, I think it's quite hard to be so confident when you're trying to do that  XD She was only 12-13 years old too. And her 'in your face/look at me' attitude is her character on camera. Even the other girls don't act the same when the spotlight isn't on them, they all have their own camera persona.

And if anyone's seen her with her sempais like Gaki and Takahashi, you can see she's clearly respectful with them. Of course she jokes around, she realizes they're human, and doesn't worship the very ground they walk on for example, but she knows they should be treated with respect. And I'm actually wondering, when has she ever said she's 'better' in some way compared to others? I've heard other members like Sayu or Gaki say they're better at something than other people, but I never recalled Koharu saying a similar statement. Heck, she's never even said she's cuter than anyone  XD
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Nouciel on March 21, 2008, 10:32:20 PM
Not that i really hate Koharu........  but she's kinda annoying and not much of a singer.  She's cute and adorable, i admit that.  but her "look at me" and "in ur face" attitude is really getting annoying.  She wasn't like that back in the day when she first started.  Maybe the popularity is getting to her head.  She also doesn't seem to respect her sempais much these days, at least imo.  probably there is no strong figures and personalities, like Yossy and Mikitty, to keep her in check or that she looks up to. 
I agree.
When she joined the group, she was kinda insecure, but a hard working girl. Then, after the Kirarin success, sometime in 2007 something in her head clicked -- maybe she realized she got popular, and Koharu, who started out claiming she liked 'cool' idols like Yossi and Miki, became a fake, cam-whoring loudmouth with a giant ego.

I used to like Koharu, she seemed like she was trying her best and KiraRevo was a great opportunity to improve herself as an idol, not to become THIS.

And if this ain't enough proof... image. (http://www.imgur.com/files/080321/koharucamwhore.jpg) But whatever! :lol:, I don't like Kusumi, I don't care about Kusumi.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: frblckstr1 on March 22, 2008, 07:36:37 AM
^ yup graduate her, move her out of H!P or whatever, she ruins all the latest PV's for me :angry:

No buying Single V's for me at the moment :banghead:
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: ohno on March 22, 2008, 08:15:44 AM
I agree with the Koharu ruins PVs part. In Resonant Blue, Ai and Reina look all intense and then you see Koharu in the middle smiling like an idiot. Same with Risa in that PV.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Miichan on April 02, 2008, 06:17:32 PM
God i hate the eggs!!! Well actully i dont hate them at all XD

i just dont want them in groups with h!p (like momusu i mean)
... i think they should make new groups with the eggs instead~ ...
That seems like that would be better for both the eggs and for koharu or momusu or which ever group

(yeah i know theres not many groups with the eggs ... they still bother me alot though XD)

I love milky ways new song ... but it would be so great if it was just a koha song ... or at least didnt have kikkawa in it...

...sorry to all egg fans~ i just needed to say it XD  :heart: :heart:
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: chokkan 2 on April 15, 2008, 10:18:38 PM
since I'm bored, I need to rant my some favs ^_^

Gaki - you really needa keep fit ..... you REALLY look like a balloon (or something soaked in water too long  :banghead: )    ...... you don't feel pain when someone pinches your face is a BAD sign ......

Sayu - hmmm .... ok .. I'll leave her out of this ... since I kinda always rant about her XD

Risako - Two words "Keep Fit !!"  there are too many people calling you "Fat Rii" ........

Maimi - you need to be more "Raika" (sorry ... it's just a personal preference XD) ..... and also what happened to your voice @ Namida no Iro ??

Airi - work harder to control your voice  :angry:  sometimes you suck at live ....... (maybe it's just my epectation is high)




about the ones I don't really like ........... I'll abbreviate ^_^

"you still suck like shit"



EDIT: seems like I cannot achieve negative post count ...... 0 is the lowest ...... hmmm ............ also with low post count I can disappear suddenly and leave the pre-orderers hanging ^_^
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Miichan on May 17, 2008, 10:09:09 PM
Gah!! I really dislike Yajima Maimi right now. She cant sing and she doesnt look good! X_X

Though i used to dislike momoko, now i like her XD
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Lu Lu Lu on May 18, 2008, 02:56:00 AM
^ I can't stand Maimi that much either, but I think she is pretty. (although sometimes it gets boring. Her beauty is kinda like "seen that already" but she IS pretty so...) Her voice is getting bad too..she was good in Tokaikko but she was horrible in LALALA & Namida no Iro.

I like Momoko also, I used to hate her. I wish she didn't talk in that extremely squeaky voice though; I'm sure she's doing it on purpose.

The only H!P member that I really can't stand though is Risako...  :banghead:
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Naomi on May 18, 2008, 03:19:45 AM
^ I can't stand Maimi that much either, but I think she is pretty. (although sometimes it gets boring. Her beauty is kinda like "seen that already" but she IS pretty so...) Her voice is getting bad too..she was good in Tokaikko but she was horrible in LALALA & Namida no Iro.
I liked her voice in LALALA. It was more calm sounding so I think she sounded better.

There really isn't a Hello! Project member that I hate. I'm not too fond of Koharu and Junjun, though I'm not entirely sure why, so I'm trying my best to like them. XD

I used to dislike Momoko, Miyabi, and Risako simply because they got the leads. :lol: Eventually I got over that and Momoko became one of my favorite Berryz members. But then she went down to my least favorite Berryz member quite quickly (I don't dislike her, though.). Miyabi went up a lot and even surpassed my old favorite Berryz member, Yurina (Maasa surpassed her, too, actually) and Risako went up quite a bit as well.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: frantzdream on May 20, 2008, 10:59:08 AM
Where is the 2008 sport festival ? :angry:
Still waiting for it  :'( please Tsunku-Sama do one this year....PLEASE  :cry:
while I am here....What about a new Ongaku Gatas Single ? :angry:
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: shurastriker on May 20, 2008, 09:30:39 PM
^ tsunku knows how to crash dreams so expect nothing... but yeah, i like sport festival this year

and to complete the idea... WTF for when Umeda Erika´s photobook???
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Miichan on May 22, 2008, 07:23:10 PM
I have to complain about Aichans newest pb...

I don't have it, Ive only seen the previews BUT ... Thats the worst pb in H!P .... (ok not true but  :roll:)
She looks so great!! I love her!! but that person who shot that pb ... X_X GAH!! Awful XD

Sorry~ Had to complain x_O Im sure people like it ~  :heart: :heart:
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: lollipopgirl on May 22, 2008, 07:30:08 PM
I have to complain about Aichans newest pb...

I don't have it, Ive only seen the previews BUT ... Thats the worst pb in H!P .... (ok not true but  :roll:)
She looks so great!! I love her!! but that person who shot that pb ... X_X GAH!! Awful XD

Sorry~ Had to complain x_O Im sure people like it ~  :heart: :heart:

Its very plain, there is no denying that... There are a few bad angles from the previews that make me go "EH!?! Why would you use that" But coz Ai is so naturally stunning, she still pulls it off... I don't think anyone else could have.

I'm hoping the actual PB has some more 'artsy' pics like her PBs usually have. But I totally get what you mean!
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Kuja on June 23, 2008, 09:29:16 PM
I'm really looking forward to the Cinderella musical, but I'm just going to die of boredom if Ai is the one dominating the stage. There is no other H!P member that I don't like at all. Everything from her sleep-attracting singing (and speaking) voice and looks to her persona (oh wait...there isn't one!) and endless face-touching makes me wish for her to graduate and give the spotlight to someone who has earned it. Yeah I can stand her for the time I can watch her while still awake, but that's about it. I don't hate her, I just don't like her and the fact (not her fault though) that she gets all the lines and everything. After Musicfighter I'd kind of like to see a single where only Sayu and Aika get to sing and Jun/Lin, Eri and Risa get to do some minimal parts and Ai can go 'uh, ah' and Reina can have short English line and Koharu short Japanese line. Not to get some sort of revenge on Ai, but to let Sayu show of all she wants for at least that once. Also, the PV would consist of Sayu and Aika doing awesome stuff and being pretty and everyone else fading to the background. Besides a Risa solo single or good song with fitting leads by Risa, this is my other dream.

I have actually learned to like all the one's I've disliked (Reina, Koharu, Momoko, Airi), but I think that it's always been the fact that they have been able to turn all that used to be bad about them to the things that made me like them (Reina's attitude, Koharu's sugarhigh...). I can't see how boringness translates into anything else than a help for disability to sleep.





And last but not least, where is the new single by Ongaku Gatas?! I need more OG right now!
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: shurastriker on June 24, 2008, 07:44:25 PM
werd i was thinking about for  when TF a new OG single
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: SomethingWild on July 22, 2008, 09:25:45 PM
Not really a Piss and Moan comment, but I didn't know where to put this haha.

You know what would be great? An Alo-Hello in CHina with JunLin! They could show us their fav places and stuff.. that way they would get more exposure, while keeping it classy.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: JFC on July 23, 2008, 12:58:18 AM
^
Technically, it would have to be a "Love-Hello" (since Alo-Hello is the title they give to the ones specifically done in Hawaii). :D

Totally awesome idea though. :thumbsup
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: lollipopgirl on September 12, 2008, 07:06:43 PM
Ok, not so much a piss and moan thing directed at H!P but still about them.
I'm doing an essay on how so called child exploitation in the media is set by society's standards (hopefully if I can find enough stuff anyway) and I was doing a really quick search on google and came across a couple of places saying how H!P makes them sick and completely disgusted because of Berryz and C-ute being so young, and the young eggs as well... I totally get people getting grossed out by bikini pics of Risako and the other youngens in PBs (despite being a Rii-chan fangirl, I won't look at her PBs yet) but they weren't even mentioning PBs at all, they were talking about how disgusting it is that the girls dance around in PVs in short skirts (and get drooled over by the old wotas but I see that as i different argument)...
I don't see how that should be such an issue, firstly they wear shorts under the short skirts like all the time and you can usually see the hem of the shorts anyway. Secondly, now that they are getting older they are going more down a sex appeal road to sell, but when the girls were younger and looked like little kids, I don't think they did at all, the image they portrayed (or how I viewed it anyway) was more cutesy than sexy... And even in western cultures, if a young girl group was going to be marketed they would be wearing either short skirts, tight jeans or mid-drifty type tops... Why? Not coz it's seen as sexy but coz it's seen as cool and "worthy" of being in the public eye... Doesn't mean it's right, doesn't mean it's wrong! I've heard this 'argument' from a friend of a friend of mine before as well: "I can't be a fan of a company that has 12yr old girl's shaking their butts in mini skirts".
I see H!P as more than just some company that likes to exploit the 'sexiness' of young girls to make money, which doesn't mean I agree with everything they do, but it pisses me off that people who claim to know so much about the Jpop world, are willing to shun H!P so quickly based on their limited knowledge of BK & C-ute! :angry:
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Blu-Cherri on September 16, 2008, 12:09:30 PM
It actually digusts me how skinny Reina is.  I find it so unattractive and makes me not want to see her in PVs unless it's a close-up.
Her arms and legs look like twigs that will snap at any moment.  She is so gorgeous and amazingly pretty yet she does this to herself!
I don't see how people can look at her in bikini pictures over and over again when she's that unhealthy.  Even koharu has something on her thighs apart from skin and bone!
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Miichan on September 16, 2008, 02:12:50 PM
It actually digusts me how skinny Reina is.  I find it so unattractive and makes me not want to see her in PVs unless it's a close-up.
Her arms and legs look like twigs that will snap at any moment.  She is so gorgeous and amazingly pretty yet she does this to herself!
I don't see how people can look at her in bikini pictures over and over again when she's that unhealthy.  Even koharu has something on her thighs apart from skin and bone!

Yeah.. I love Reina and all but that is really creepy.

And I really doubt she's that skinny because of her body, cause she has been less skinny before.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Blu-Cherri on September 16, 2008, 03:56:22 PM
^Oh I'm sure she does it to herself, and it worries me.  Remember how tsuji and yossy have been in the past? She could so easily be that bad >_< T__T
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Kirigirisu on September 16, 2008, 05:32:02 PM
It's quite concerning, I know a bit about anorexia and it's one of the worst ways to live, most of it is most likely due to the pressures of the music industry but still, it's scary.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: shadowstar on September 16, 2008, 06:59:20 PM
Normally I'd bring up the standpoint that she's just naturally skinny, but seeing as how skinny she's actually getting and her expressing her desire to lose even MORE weight scares me and makes me agree.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Lu Lu Lu on September 17, 2008, 02:00:44 AM
Yeah, on her radio show and in some interviews, Reina keeps saying that she wants to lose weight, and I'm just like, what the heck is wrong with her? She's probably one of the skinniest and shortest people in H!P. It's not attractive at all. She is pretty, but I do agree about her legs and arms looking like twigs and sometimes her head looks too big for her body...
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: strawb3rrykream on September 17, 2008, 03:12:42 AM
I knew I wasn't the only one worrying about her. :D I think she's already too skinny and losing even more weight cannot be good for her health. In her GIRL PB, the shots in the white and pink flowered bikini are kinda scary. Her elbow juts out a strange angle.... :( I really hope she isn't anorexic or anything because that would freakin break my heart. I wonder if management notices anything...or are they the ones encouraging her to lose more weight? :( I hope she realizes how beautiful she is without having to be this skinny. We went through the same sort of thing with Yossy (although I don't think it was this extreme) and she ended up gaining weight and now she's absolutely stunning. :inlove:

So I hope Reina can figure out that the way she is acting is not very healthy or safe. :yep:
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: lollipopgirl on September 17, 2008, 05:27:04 AM
I'd be reluctant to say she actually has a full-blown serious case of anorexia considering the stamina she does have during long concerts etc and from what some other things I've noticed, but with her constant comments about her body and weight, it certainly seem like she has some form of BDD :(
As for management, I don't think they encourage it (maybe who knows) but I also doubt they would say/do anything about it unless she starts having problems performing or keeping up with the other girls... Japan just doesn't seem like the country to address mental illness head on like that... Besides, if there is something going on with her, feeling like she's being 'told' or 'excused' won't do much to help, she needs to be approached from a more caring/worried angle... Leader, it's up to you ;)

It could just be teen angst though... she certainly doesn't see what we see and has got some distorted reality in that sense, but yeah, she could just be being a teenager, and one in the public eye at that... Only time will tell (not that we'll ever actually know anyway :P )
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: schopup on September 18, 2008, 04:10:35 AM
Well it doesn't exactly help the fact that the entertainment business is known pressuring girls about their image and bodies and that hurts their perception of what see when they look in the mirror and from what i've seen Reina has a petite figure and it would be dangerous for her health to lose more weight and since she is only around 4'11 she probably already at the weight she is limited to go down to and being underweight can cause heart problems,loss of hair, a weak immune system, and stopping of the menstrual cycle. But the thing is we don't know whats going on with Reina and we can only speculate, so wether she is treading a thin line when it comes to her weight she should consult a doctor specificaly a nutritionist about weight loss and to see if its healthy to lose weight for her height and body type (and if you're wondering how i know so much about this i read medical text books as a hobbie and hopefully i'll be able to go to medical school someday after the military)
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: JFC on September 18, 2008, 07:01:17 AM
I'm surprised that absolutely no one here has mentioned (possibly even conceived of) the possibility that perhaps Reina just has a REALLY fast metabolism.  For all we know, she could be one of those people who can eat as much as they want and they don't gain an ounce. I've known a few people (some of them girls) like that, and yes, they were sometimes as skinny as Reina was.  I was in a friend's cotillion in high school and her one cousin was like that, skinny/boney arms and all. Did she look like she wasn't eating? Yep. Were we concerned after she fainted during practice when she was in the middle of a twirl for our cha-cha number? Of course. But it turned out that I was just jumping the gun. Her cousin has a metabolism so fast, that she HAS to eat something at least once an hour so she doesn't get lightheaded. And man, I swear that girl could eat circles around me when it came to actual "meals".


As far as the whole Reina "wishing she was thinner" thing, seriously, it's a pretty common thing for young women to say or think about themselves, even if they're perfectly healthy.  As a previous post pointed out, Reina's able to last through the pair of 2 hour concerts that MM/H!P performs per day on their tours. In the end, my point is that unless we hear reports of Reina constantly fainting or being hospitalized due to lack of strength or exhaustion (not unlike what happened to Maki before she left H!P), then in all likelihood we shouldn't be worrying so much and trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: strawb3rrykream on September 18, 2008, 07:04:28 AM
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Yeah, I guess you could be right, JFC. In fact, I hope you are. :D
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: doinkies on September 18, 2008, 07:58:30 AM
I'm surprised that absolutely no one here has mentioned (possibly even conceived of) the possibility that perhaps Reina just has a REALLY fast metabolism.  For all we know, she could be one of those people who can eat as much as they want and they don't gain an ounce. I've known a few people (some of them girls) like that, and yes, they were sometimes as skinny as Reina was.  I was in a friend's cotillion in high school and her one cousin was like that, skinny/boney arms and all. Did she look like she wasn't eating? Yep. Were we concerned after she fainted during practice when she was in the middle of a twirl for our cha-cha number? Of course. But it turned out that I was just jumping the gun. Her cousin has a metabolism so fast, that she HAS to eat something at least once an hour so she doesn't get lightheaded. And man, I swear that girl could eat circles around me when it came to actual "meals".


As far as the whole Reina "wishing she was thinner" thing, seriously, it's a pretty common thing for young women to say or think about themselves, even if they're perfectly healthy.  As a previous post pointed out, Reina's able to last through the pair of 2 hour concerts that MM/H!P performs per day on their tours. In the end, my point is that unless we hear reports of Reina constantly fainting or being hospitalized due to lack of strength or exhaustion (not unlike what happened to Maki before she left H!P), then in all likelihood we shouldn't be worrying so much and trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

Yeah, if Reina was actually starving herself she probably wouldn't have been able to make it through those tours, not to mention the musical. I've seen a lot of people worry about Reina's weight for a while but it seemed to blow up after Reina said "中1に 戻りたぁーい(->∀<!!! それか・・・お腹のくびれを ください。。。(恥;)" in a Pocket Morning Weekly Q&A. H!O translated this as "If it's just one thing, I want to go back to the first year of middle school (->∀<!!!That, or... getting thinner please... ( ashamed; )".
This is a wrong translation - it should have said "I want to go back to the first year of middle school(->∀<!!! That, or...(I want) a flatter stomach please...(*embarrassed*)".
In short, Reina actually answered that she wants to lose weight from a specific area of her body, rather than her whole body. お腹のくびれ can also refer to an hourglass figure. (And I don't know where the doink H!O got the "If it's just one thing" part from...)

Even though some people were able to see that it was mistranslated, many more people didn't and so there were these "OMG Reina must have an eating disorder, and she must hate being in H!P because she entered H!P in her first year of middle school" comments, especially on H!O.

Reina has always been rather skinny, and is also pretty short. Like JFC said, I don't think that people should be so quick to say "Reina has an eating disorder" when we don't really know what is going on and when she appears to be doing fine otherwise.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: schopup on September 18, 2008, 03:44:31 PM
I'm surprised that absolutely no one here has mentioned (possibly even conceived of) the possibility that perhaps Reina just has a REALLY fast metabolism.  For all we know, she could be one of those people who can eat as much as they want and they don't gain an ounce. I've known a few people (some of them girls) like that, and yes, they were sometimes as skinny as Reina was.  I was in a friend's cotillion in high school and her one cousin was like that, skinny/boney arms and all. Did she look like she wasn't eating? Yep. Were we concerned after she fainted during practice when she was in the middle of a twirl for our cha-cha number? Of course. But it turned out that I was just jumping the gun. Her cousin has a metabolism so fast, that she HAS to eat something at least once an hour so she doesn't get lightheaded. And man, I swear that girl could eat circles around me when it came to actual "meals".


As far as the whole Reina "wishing she was thinner" thing, seriously, it's a pretty common thing for young women to say or think about themselves, even if they're perfectly healthy.  As a previous post pointed out, Reina's able to last through the pair of 2 hour concerts that MM/H!P performs per day on their tours. In the end, my point is that unless we hear reports of Reina constantly fainting or being hospitalized due to lack of strength or exhaustion (not unlike what happened to Maki before she left H!P), then in all likelihood we shouldn't be worrying so much and trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

My honest opinion she is naturally thin and from what I said before is from a medical standpoint wether she has a weight isssue or not(too much of the medical text book reading I suuppose). And shes been enterainment business for over 5 years she has probably seen what can happen to girl who have issues with weight and eating disorders, so she probably knows better then to think that way
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Kirigirisu on September 18, 2008, 03:46:42 PM
It's not about how thin she is, that could be perfectly natural, it's more the fact that she continually professes how much thinner she'd like to be.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: BigDnm01 on September 20, 2008, 08:53:00 PM
ARGGGHHH!!!!!!!!!

UFA!   WHAT IS GOING ON?!!!   
FIRST THEY CANCEL HM@ and place them on Yorosen with Berryz Kobo and C-ute, which mean even less screen time.   
NOW THEY GONNA CANCEL GAKE*KAME, TOO?!  My favorite combi...

UFA, they should really help promote and market the girls better, if they are worried about their popularity, but how do they without a proper show to promote them with? 

I was disappointed with not having my weekly dose of Kamei and MM soon, but soon I can't hear her as well? 

Nowadays, MM don't appear in the media, at least from a foreigner point-of-view since I only hear of them on news site.
I just hate all of this.... I hope big and better things to come for MoMusu and H!P as a whole. 

one more thing...
It's not that I hate UFA, in fact I hope they could be really successful so, in turn, H!P would be successful and so would MoMusu. 
I hope that they can manage them a lot better and keep H!P girls happy and the fans happy. 
 
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: AmberSan on September 20, 2008, 09:11:15 PM
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I'm also pissed that GAKIKAME is ending. I realy like this combi. Their interaction with each other was always funny, ever since the zekyou and hakkan cm days. I do hope there'll be, perhaps , another radio show with them . 
but 'till then .. i could always listen to the shows i haven't listened to yet  :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: JFC on September 21, 2008, 12:56:00 AM
GAKI*KAME is ending? Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame. :thumbdown:
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Kirigirisu on September 21, 2008, 02:14:27 AM
What?! Noooooooooo....!
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: strawb3rrykream on September 21, 2008, 05:49:27 AM
Gah, just finished listening to GAKI*KAME....Boo. I love listening to them laugh like crazy ppl~ But it'll be over soon.... Why is UFA so idiotic??? :(
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: JFC on September 21, 2008, 08:40:14 AM
Apparently, it's not just GAKI*KAME that's ending...:(

Quote from: moralar @ mm-bbs.org
There seems to be a bit of a bloodletting going on with H!P radio shows this month. I don't listen to many of them, but here are the ones that are supposedly slated to end:

GakiKame
Ai say hello (Mitsui)
C-ute Yajima Maimi no I My Me <3 Maimi  (this deserves to die for its title alone)
HaroPuro Yanen!!
Cutie Party


Biggest surprise to me was HaroPuro Yanen. Doesn't make sense that they'd end it considering how it's had such a long (and presumably, successful) run.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Miichan on September 21, 2008, 07:07:06 PM
Are they trying to kill h!p completely?  :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: strawb3rrykream on September 21, 2008, 09:59:25 PM
Holy shit, that's like pretty much everyone!!! :cry: WHY????
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: doinkies on September 22, 2008, 05:35:54 AM
It's not everyone; the FIVE STARS shows and Hyper Night shows (Sayu's and Ongaku Gatas's shows) aren't canceled. I guess they are trying to clean house, maybe replace some of these radio shows with other ones with other H!P members.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Naomi on September 22, 2008, 05:49:05 AM
Aw, dang. :( At least there's still Ongaku Gatas and Sayu's shows, but I'm still sad that C-ute's show and HaroPro Yanen! are ending. =/

(If they are making new shows, I hope Yossie's in one since the OnGatas show is mainly Satoda. XD)
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: strawb3rrykream on September 22, 2008, 05:56:31 AM
I know it's not everyone, it just feels like it. I'm definitely gonna miss GAKI*KAME and HaroPuro Yanen. But I'm glad KonUsaPi and Reina's FIVE STARS are still on!! Because I'd hafta choka bitch if Reina was off the air. XD Well, I guess all we can do is enjoy the episodes we have left. :(
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: JFC on September 22, 2008, 06:04:12 AM
(If they are making new shows, I hope Yossie's in one since the OnGatas show is mainly Satoda. XD)
GIVE MIKI-SAMA A SHOW!!!
:pleeease:
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: doinkies on September 22, 2008, 07:05:02 AM
Yeah, she should have another radio show. I'll never forget when Miki READ MY LETTER ON DOKIMIKI NIGHT AND I WON A PRIZE!!!!

She'd be perfect for FIVE STARS if they ever decide to replace one of the other hosts with another host.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: JFC on September 22, 2008, 07:17:39 AM
Yeah, she should have another radio show. I'll never forget when Miki READ MY LETTER ON DOKIMIKI NIGHT AND I WON A PRIZE!!!!
She did?!?! O_O
LUCKYYYYYYYYYY!

Which episode was it, and what was your "pen-name"? This I wanna hear. :D
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: shurastriker on October 20, 2008, 06:53:31 AM
not much to say but.... LONG LIVE TO THE ELDER CLUB
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Rick-e on October 20, 2008, 03:25:18 PM
Ok i know I'm late at knowing this but...... Elder club is graduating!?!?! what the heck????? there goes my dream of attending an H!P concert T_T

why tsunku, why?????
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: shurastriker on September 22, 2009, 03:44:44 PM
DAMM why with the i want to start modeling so i need to graduate thing??? mmmm i bet all of them will end as idols... and yeah, i'm talking about Koharu only since i'm careless about the C-ute girl
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: LaJon on November 23, 2009, 03:40:34 PM
Surprise, surprise... no H!P or related artists in this year's Kohaku Utagassen.

List of artists in Japanese on the NHK site (http://www9.nhk.or.jp/kouhaku/artists/index.html) and in English on the Tokyograph forums (http://forums.tokyograph.com/showthread.php?t=7392).


You can only ride the success of Morning Musume from yesteryear for so long, so I'm glad to see them finally given the boot from Kohaku.  Hopefully this will keep up and they can fall peacefully into obscurity, cause it's getting more and more painful with each single to see them try and recapture the magic only to fail miserably.   :smhid
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: LaJon on June 09, 2010, 09:12:52 PM
Quote from: H!O
Oricon daily single ranking: #3-Kimura Kaela. #2-Idoling. #1-Morning Musume. Congrats to MoMusu for the daily #1 rank!

(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/e/e5/DoubleFacepalmRickerPicard.jpg)

Goddamnit guys, stop encouraging them.  This isn't how you get good music.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: adventwriter on June 12, 2010, 03:35:32 AM
They really need new blood in the songwriting/composition department.... all the latest songs are beginning to melt together for me....
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: writerserenyty on June 16, 2010, 05:23:35 AM
Hi there H!P.

So, lots of PBs are coming out which is fun because I really like Photobooks.

One question. Where the hell is Mitsui Aika's photobook???????

She was chosen in 2006, and her first single came out in 2007. She's been in Morning Musume for over three years. She's been in three albums and 12 singles. It took Koharu three singles and less than a year for her to get a PB.

I'd love other 8th gen PBs, but really, Aika's is overdue.
Title: Re: The Official Piss and Moan Thread
Post by: Meania on June 20, 2010, 09:54:10 PM
I don't have any issues with members or the songs
but

I really wish H!P groups-- and I'm mainly talking about Morning musume, would have singles or albums-- I mean, AKB48 get loads of magazines and afew pvs with each single nowadays - and Korean groups release posters and boxsets of their albums, and re-releases
I wish Tsunku would catch on to this and make the single copies themselves more interesting- I don't buy singles often as when I get them I am dissapointed to find a cd and 2 group photos or a pull out cover with single lyric sheet... if there were more songs or more than one pv- I'd feel more driven to buy a copy-- or multiple copies!! And adding in some random photocards to singles or making special boxsets of albums would really push me to pay up

And I really hate how people complain about the cheapness of pvs...
then again- I'd rather there were a couple of them but cheaply made
seriously- just put them in some sponsored clothes brand and do some different versions-- we don't HAVE to have fancy elaborate outfits and big studio setups
That's why I like Seishun Collection- they just put them on a football field- we don't always need dramatic set ups~