Author Topic: [2014.04.02] Nogizaka46 - 8th Single "Kizuitara Kataomoi" (Read 20805 times)

kaerimichi · « **Reply #20 on:** March 21, 2014, 01:23:31 AM »

ZIP 140321

- A little preview of "Kodoku Kyoudai"

credit to ポジピ～ス

Masa · « **Reply #21 on:** March 21, 2014, 05:57:17 AM »

Quote from: kaerimichi on March 21, 2014, 01:23:31 AM

- A little preview of "Kodoku Kyoudai"

I ordered Type A and C but man, that PV preview is so awesome I feel like getting Type B as well. I haven't really been that impressed by the b-side songs so far but Kodoku Kyoudai sounds great

Masa · « **Reply #22 on:** March 21, 2014, 05:09:48 PM »

Quote from: kaerimichi on March 21, 2014, 01:23:31 AM

- A little preview of "Kodoku Kyoudai"

Full PV: http://nogizakanouta.blogspot.fi/2014/03/kodoku-kyoudai-mv.html

Masa · « **Reply #23 on:** March 23, 2014, 05:35:59 PM »

SomethingWild · « **Reply #24 on:** March 24, 2014, 02:28:20 PM »

Dankeschön radio rip, 8th single coupling song on the Regular version:

https://soundcloud.com/caramujo07/dankeschon/s-YIIdJ

KRL · « **Reply #25 on:** March 24, 2014, 04:00:33 PM »

Quote from: SomethingWild on March 24, 2014, 02:28:20 PM

Dankeschön radio rip, 8th single coupling song on the Regular version:

https://soundcloud.com/caramujo07/dankeschon/s-YIIdJ

『ロマンスのスタート』/ Romance no Start https://soundcloud.com/caramujo07/romance-no-start/s-Z7AtF

『吐息のメソッド』Toiki no Method https://soundcloud.com/caramujo07/toiki-no-method/s-4JhF6

kaerimichi · « **Reply #26 on:** March 26, 2014, 11:40:04 PM »

"Romance no Start" MV Preview

credit to nis46b4

EDIT

Romance no Start Full MV
- from Nogi YT Channel
- only for Japan Region. You need to use vpn to watch it.

Masa · « **Reply #27 on:** March 27, 2014, 05:28:11 AM »

Quote from: kaerimichi on March 26, 2014, 11:40:04 PM

Romance no Start Full MV

2014.03.27

winner · « **Reply #28 on:** March 27, 2014, 06:35:03 AM »

^@1:50

They're still practicing that car-ride pantomime skit from 140112 Nogizakatte Doko!!

KRL · « **Reply #29 on:** March 28, 2014, 01:53:39 PM »

@ Ameba Studio

Rust · « **Reply #30 on:** March 29, 2014, 03:57:02 AM »

MV rankingu~
Romance no Start > Kizuitara Kataomoi > Kodoku Kyoudai > Umareta Mama de
I rly like Romance no Starto's MV~ Its the kinda that I will watch over & over & over & over again~ xD
Just the sheer cuteness of all the Nogi-girls can cheer me up & makes me happy, its reminds me of Sonna baka na!

Kodoku Kyoudai is great too, but not something I would repeat as much as Romance no Starto lol. I think being not a silly/happy themed MV factor to this, & a less clear story might not help either. The Nanamin/Maiyan chocolate scene at the end tho, awwwww~ ;A;

Rly like Kizuitara Kataomoi's MV! The story & the way the dialogue is built into it, its all rly rly well made! However maybe due to its more serious/sad nature, its not something I will rewatch a lot. The acting by all the member were rly well done methink.

Umareta Mama de's MV is great too actually, many of the scene concepts are awesome! My fav is the dancing on the floor part, followed by the door-opening & then the riding & regular dancing part. Altho I like the other three MVs more, I actually like this MV a lot too! I especially enjoy the choreography here!

Speaking of choreography, from what I seen from performance & MVs so far, I rank them:
Umareta Mama de > Romance no Start > Kizuitara Kataomoi > Kodoku Kyoudai
Tbh tho most post-Minami-Sasuga choreography are great lol. Umareta's seems rly creative, & Romance no Starto's just seems so adorb aww~~~ ;A;

KazuKata's is simple yet elegant too, I especially love the part where Maimai centres the formation & kneel down a bits, I find it very very alluring somehow~ >_<

Kodoku Kyoudai's choreo isn't bad too actually, but I find it a bit odd sometimes lol. I guess it feels more like a guy dance choreo than a girl one, a feeling I share for Seifiku no Mannequin choreo. I like Kodoku Kyoudai's choreo tho, while for Mannequin I disliked it. I just don't like it as much as the other three choreo lol.

& song rankingu for me~
I don't rly know how to elaborate on my liking for songs, so I'll just rank them lol.
Romance no Start > Kizuitara Kataomoi >> Kodoku Kyoudai >>> Umareta Mama de = Dankeschön > Toiki no Method

Also, sale forecast~
There have been concerns regarding Kizuitara Kataomoi's sale, due to the fact that compared to the 7th rnd of Barrette, HS sale have dropped, by some 57 blocks to be exact if my calculation is not wrong. A point to note is that the total amount of HS blocks have been increased for most members however, so that might stretch out HS sales a bit & make selling out a block less likely. Nonetheless 57 blocks is a huge number, & 57 x 500 (slots per block) = 28,500, which is not a number to be neglected.

However, than I noticed that the last handshake round result before Barrette was released was not the 7th rnd; in fact it was the 5th. So rly, we should be comparing KizuKata's 7th round to Barrette's 5th rnd. For comparison's sake I also looked up Garuru's HS result before release, also the 5th rnd.

HS blocks sold out prior to release | 1st day sale | 1st week sale | Soundscan 1st Week | Single
281 | ___,___ | ___,___ | ___,___ | Kizuitara Kataomoi
272 | 347,244 | 395,127 | _83,173 | Barette
130 | 286,492 | 337,138 | _93,738 | Girl's Rule

With that comparison, I feel more optimistic regarding KizuKata's possible sale. Whether we should be concerned that its taking more rnd for HS sale to match the previous single I dunno, since it might simply be a scheduling thing & not a major concern. Another thing to note is that Barette got an additional anime edition that went on sale due to Tsuki no Ookisa being a Naruto theme. I don't know how much of a difference it made to Barette's sale, but if it helped significantly, it might make it harder for KazuKata to top Barrette's sale. Anyways considering everything I'm slightly optimistic sale will increase, but still worried lol. Lets hope for the best & wish that Naachan's bungee jump & being tsuntsun in Romance no Starto MV made Ngzk sold even more lol >_<

Masa · « **Reply #31 on:** March 29, 2014, 07:15:18 AM »

Quote from: Rust on March 29, 2014, 03:57:02 AM

MV rankingu~
Romance no Start > Kizuitara Kataomoi > Kodoku Kyoudai > Umareta Mama de

Agreed

That being said, I do enjoy all four PVs a lot. Nogizaka46 has lots of great PVs and Romance no Start is definitely up there with the classics. The concept is quite creative and well executed but more importantly the PV simply has lots of replay value. Kizuitara Kataomoi is another great one but due to being long and story heavy it's not something I'm going to watch over and over again. Kodoku Kyoudai is all style but very little substance. Sure there's a story but personally I didn't find it that interesting. I feel like the PV is more about Maiyan and Nanamin looking super fucking awesome and badass. In fact both the girls and the dance choreography look so great that I wouldn't mind if they dropped the story parts and just made a dance shot PV. The choreography does look like it was made for dudes but that's what makes it so cool. I also like the visual style of the PV a lot. I don't have much to say about Umareta Mama de except that it's cute and fun lol.

Quote from: Rust on March 29, 2014, 03:57:02 AM

song rankingu for me~
I don't rly know how to elaborate on my liking for songs, so I'll just rank them lol.
Romance no Start > Kizuitara Kataomoi >> Kodoku Kyoudai >>> Umareta Mama de = Dankeschön > Toiki no Method

My ranking: Kizuitara Kataomoi > Kodoku Kyoudai > Dankeschön > Toiki no Method > Romance no Start > Umareta Mama de

I initially had mixed feelings about Kizuitara Kataomoi. I loved the chorus right away but I felt like everything else was forgettable. But much like what happened with Baretta, one day I just realized that the song was stuck in my head. The chorus is just too damn catchy. So while KizuKata might not be my absolute favorite Nogi A-side song it's still a very solid addition to their catalogue. If KizuKata's awesomeness didn't hit me right away, Kodoku Kyoudai was an instant hit. I just knew it was gonna be my favorite C/W song the moment I saw the short PV preview. Dankeschön & Toiki no Method are both decent and while Romance no Start isn't bad, I feel like it sounds too much like a generic 48G song. And y'all know how much I dislike that style

Quote from: Rust on March 29, 2014, 03:57:02 AM

Also, sale forecast~
There have been concerns regarding Kizuitara Kataomoi's sale, due to the fact that compared to the 7th rnd of Barrette, HS sale have dropped, by some 57 blocks to be exact if my calculation is not wrong. A point to note is that the total amount of HS blocks have been increased for most members however, so that might stretch out HS sales a bit & make selling out a block less likely. Nonetheless 57 blocks is a huge number, & 57 x 500 (slots per block) = 28,500, which is not a number to be neglected.

However, than I noticed that the last handshake round result before Barrette was released was not the 7th rnd; in fact it was the 5th. So rly, we should be comparing KizuKata's 7th round to Barrette's 5th rnd. For comparison's sake I also looked up Garuru's HS result before release, also the 5th rnd.

HS blocks sold out prior to release | 1st day sale | 1st week sale | Soundscan 1st Week | Single
281 | ___,___ | ___,___ | ___,___ | Kizuitara Kataomoi
272 | 347,244 | 395,127 | _83,173 | Barette
130 | 286,492 | 337,138 | _93,738 | Girl's Rule

With that comparison, I feel more optimistic regarding KizuKata's possible sale. Whether we should be concerned that its taking more rnd for HS sale to match the previous single I dunno, since it might simply be a scheduling thing & not a major concern. Another thing to note is that Barette got an additional anime edition that went on sale due to Tsuki no Ookisa being a Naruto theme. I don't know how much of a difference it made to Barette's sale, but if it helped significantly, it might make it harder for KazuKata to top Barrette's sale. Anyways considering everything I'm slightly optimistic sale will increase, but still worried lol. Lets hope for the best & wish that Naachan's bungee jump & being tsuntsun in Romance no Starto MV made Ngzk sold even more lol >_<

Good stuff, thanks for the info! It looks like Nogizaka's sales peak will end up being somewhere between 350-400k. I doubt they will ever truly rival AKB48 but I could see them beating other 48G groups. Anyways I'm cautiously optimistic about KizuKata's sales

Rust · « **Reply #32 on:** March 29, 2014, 09:35:00 PM »

Adding some more stuffs to my previous long post lol.
There have been comparison of HS results between the same rounds of this single & the last being done, & it looked rather grim lol. But as I noted, it might be more appropriate to compare KazuKata's 7th rnd to Barrette's 5th. With that in mind:

From left to right are: Barrette's 5th rnd, KazuKata's 7th rnd, changes, & name.

11/28　|　25/30　(+14)　Fukagawa Mai
19/30　|　29/30　(+10)　Matsumura Sayuri
12/26　|　21/28　(+09)　Eto Misa
18/28　|　26/30　(+08)　Sakurai Reika
02/16　|　07/16　(+05)　Nagashima Seira
28/30　|　30/30　(+02)　Akimoto Manatsu (not yet sold out | 5th rnd sold out)
27/30　|　29/30　(+02)　Hashimoto Nanami
14/28　|　16/25　(+02)　Ikuta Erika
00/06　|　01/07　(+01)　Wada Maaya

30/30　|　30/30　(+00)　Nishino Nanase (3rd rnd | 5th rnd sold out)
30/30　|　30/30　(+00)　Shiraishi Mai (5th rnd | 6th rnd sold out)
03/14　|　03/18　(+00)　Kitano Hinako
01/26　|　01/26　(+00)　Nakada Kana
01/06　|　01/10　(+00)　Yamazaki Rena

01/12　|　00/11　(-01)　Hatanaka Seira
01/06　|　00/10　(-01)　Kawago Hina
01/06　|　00/10　(-01)　Yamato Rina
01/06　|　00/10　(-01)　Ito Junna
01/06　|　00/10　(-01)　Noujou Ami
01/06　|　00/10　(-01)　Suzuki Ayane
03/19　|　02/21　(-01)　Ito Marika
03/10　|　02/16　(-01)　Nakamoto Himeka
20/28　|　18/30　(-02)　Wakatsuki Yumi
08/28　|　06/30　(-02)　Takayama Kazumi
03/06　|　01/10　(-02)　Higuchi Hina
04/22　|　01/28　(-03)　Hori Miona
03/20　|　00/22　(-03)　Saito Yuri
04/20　|　00/23　(-04)　Saito Asuka
06/10　|　00/17　(-06)　Hoshino Minami
07/20　|　01/26　(-06)　Inoue Sayuri
09/28　|　01/30　(-08)　Ikoma Rina

　272 　| 　281 　 (+09) 　 Total

So some big increases & big drops. Maimai is surging! Sayurin, Misamisa, & Reika doing exceptional too. Generally speaking a concentration in blocks sold out. The increase in total sold out might have bump tons of members to -1 territory tho, so there might not need to be any concerns there. The greater negative numbers deserve some concerns tho methink.

SomethingWild · « **Reply #33 on:** March 30, 2014, 10:41:08 AM »

^Very interesting indeed!

Gotta love Mai. I'm sure those mousou segments in Nogibingo boosted her popularity immensely. She's very likable.

Biggest surprise is Inoue Sayuri. I always quite liked her, so I wonder what it causing this drop.
On the other hand, she doesn't seem to develop as much as the other girls. Still very shy.

Masa · « **Reply #34 on:** March 30, 2014, 06:14:41 PM »

kaerimichi · « **Reply #35 on:** April 01, 2014, 12:35:06 PM »

I found this video on my youtube subcriptions and @nammekun said that it's Kizuitara Kataomoi type-B DVD Bonus video :

#2

credit to salu salu

SomethingWild · « **Reply #36 on:** April 01, 2014, 04:56:29 PM »

Yes, people are still doing this.

KRL · « **Reply #37 on:** April 02, 2014, 12:51:45 PM »

1st day sale: 387,122 Copies

Masa · « **Reply #38 on:** April 02, 2014, 04:06:33 PM »

Quote

　　カーテン　　ｼｬﾝﾌﾟｰ　　 Bicycle　　マネキン　君の名は　ガールズ　バレッタ　　片想い
　　12/02/22 12/05/02　12/08/22 12/12/19　13/03/13　13/07/03　13/11/27　14/04/02
━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
月　---,---　　---,---　　---,---　　---,---　　---,---　　---,---　　---,---　　---,---
火　*84,905　　111,222　　150,056　　190,108　　204,281　　286,492　　347,244　　387,122
水　*13,782　　*21,552　　*13,285　　*17,335　　*16,126　　*18,599　　*17,097　　***,***
木　**9,254　　**8,238　　**5,923　　**7,425　　**7,129　　**9,443　　**7,866　　***,***
金　**7,373　　**5,092　　**5,944　　**6,063　　***,4位　　**7,638　　**8,548　　***,***
土　*10,901　　**4,123　　***,4位　　**5,699　　***,6位　　**6,694　　**8,055　　***,***
日　**7,524　　**2,993　　***,5位　　**3,512　　***,5位　　**6,261　　**4,926　　***,***
━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
計　133,739　　153,220　　175,208　　230,142　　227,536　　335,127　　393,736　　387,122
週　136,309　　155,677　　186,613　　232,961　　242,053　　337,138　　395,127　　***,***
累　212,492　　223,448　　243,326　　309,208　　309,966　　456,114　　512,003　　***,***

New 1st day sales record!

Rust · « **Reply #39 on:** April 02, 2014, 07:42:45 PM »

\(^o^)/

Just gonna make things look a bit more organized lol

Comparison to all previous Nogi-singles~

　　ぐるぐる　　　シャンプー　　Bicycle　　マネキン　　君の名は　　ガールズ　　バレッタ　　　片想い
　 12/02/22 　12/05/02　 12/08/22　 12/12/19　 13/03/13 　 13/07/03 　 13/11/27　 14/04/02
━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
月　___,___　　___,___　　___,___　　___,___　　___,___　　___,___　　___,___　　___,___
火　_84,905　　111,222　　150,056　　190,108　　204,281　　286,492　　347,244　　387,122
水　_13,782　　_21,552　　_13,285　　_17,335　　_16,126　　_18,599　　_17,097　　___,___
木　__9,254　　__8,238　　__5,923　　__7,425　　__7,129　　__9,443　　__7,866　　___,___
金　__7,373　　__5,092　　__5,944　　__6,063　　___,_#4　　__7,638　　__8,548　　___,___
土　_10,901　　__4,123　　___,_#4　　__5,699　　___,_#6　　__6,694　　__8,055　　___,___
日　__7,524　　__2,993　　___,_#5　　__3,512　　___,_#5　　__6,261　　__4,926　　___,___
━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
計　133,739　　153,220　　175,208　　230,142　　227,536　　335,127　　393,736　　387,122
週　136,309　　155,677　　186,613　　232,961　　242,053　　337,138　　395,127　　___,___
累　212,492　　223,448　　243,326　　309,208　　309,966　　456,114　　512,003　　___,___

Comparison to recent 48-group releases

　　さくべた　　　未来とは　　高嶺林檎　　　片想い
　 14/03/12 　 14/03/19　 14/03/26　 14/04/02
━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
月　___,___　　___,___　　___,___　　___,___
火　227,322　　273,740　　368,719　　387,122
水　_16,084　　_88,431　　_15,439　　___,___
木　_12,402　　__8,582　　__6,963　　___,___
金　__8,944　　__6,995　　__4,973　　___,___
土　__4,609　　_11,915　　__4,433　　___,___
日　__3,457　　__4,134　　__3,589　　___,___
━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
計　272,818　　393,797　　404,116　　387,122
週　276,799　　397,874　　406,579　　___,___