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Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tamatron on March 01, 2007, 11:58:08 AM
Kanashimi Twilight
「悲しみトワイライト」

First press A (comes with a DVD):EPCE-5465 \ 1,680
First press B:EPCE-5467 \ 1,260
Regular Edition:EPCE-5468 \ 1,050

http://www.netdirect.co.jp/search/ISSSchDetail.asp?ISBN=EPCE5465
http://www.netdirect.co.jp/search/ISSSchDetail.asp?ISBN=EPCE5467
http://www.netdirect.co.jp/search/ISSSchDetail.asp?ISBN=EPCE5468
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: daigong on March 01, 2007, 11:59:48 AM
Sounds DEEEP!!


Ohh...it'll be Yossi's grad single too huh ;_; ...sounds dark. I think it'll be a rock ballad.
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: DroolBoy on March 01, 2007, 12:01:45 PM
HOLY CRAP.

Sounds hot.
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: faraithi on March 01, 2007, 12:06:24 PM
Perhaps this song/single might be an expression of the Twilight Era that MoMusu is in now...
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Katri~ on March 01, 2007, 01:06:46 PM
Kanashimi Twilight.  Sounds interesting. ;P

I hope it will be a good one.
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Post by: Sukoshi on March 01, 2007, 01:08:09 PM
Ooo a really nice sounding title!  I have high hopes for this single :heart:
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Post by: linlin on March 01, 2007, 01:14:44 PM
OK so they have Morning Coffee, Summer Night Town and now Kanashimi Twilight .. they need some afternoon and midnight song :P
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: mini*wheat on March 01, 2007, 02:15:34 PM
Freaking-A, am I excited! As much as I <3 Egao, I wasn't too pleased with it being Yossi's grad single (though it WAS a good Aika introduction single). Plus the name is pretty nice and makes me hope for a really nice PV. :D
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Post by: Nouciel on March 01, 2007, 02:38:24 PM
Quote from: linlin;319974
OK so they have Morning Coffee, Summer Night Town and now Kanashimi Twilight .. they need some afternoon and midnight song :P


Midnight isn't good for a graduation! Twilight is :yay: XD
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Post by: linlin on March 01, 2007, 04:27:20 PM
They release Egao in Feb and this in April .. if they go on at this rate, we'll have 6 singles this year! :P
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Post by: ichijoujirena on March 01, 2007, 04:47:46 PM
The title is promising. It brings thoughts of Mr. Moonlight #2 to my head. XD
Twilight. Moonlight. Eh, it could work.
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Post by: Princess Pudding on March 01, 2007, 04:58:31 PM
I really like the title, so I hope this holds out to be true!!! It reminds me of a couple oldies titles, but just by going by the title, the PV could be pretty cool!
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: metoice on March 01, 2007, 07:19:30 PM
Kanashimi Twilight!! Yossie's grad single >.<
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: hibachifinal on March 01, 2007, 07:34:09 PM
i get a bad feeling. :(
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Yossui_x_Mikitty on March 02, 2007, 07:48:29 AM
I'm hoping it'll be some type of upbeat soothing song like GAM's Lu Lu Lu....

also i cant wait for the PV since its Yossui's grad single....i bet the PV is gonna be awesome!!
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Post by: Shoko on March 02, 2007, 07:55:34 AM
Oh God dark slow-rock plz.
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Post by: Kira-sama on March 02, 2007, 07:55:58 AM
oh boy this is going to be hot. i know this will be a good single since's yossie's grad single! :D
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Post by: reyfer on March 02, 2007, 02:01:42 PM
It is possible that this song is a remake of  悲しみトワイライト (Sorrow Twilight) written in 2000 by Kobayashi Yasuhiko for Enka singer Yasuko Mihara? the song is not bad, and with a new arrangement could sound great, IF it is the same.... here's a link to the song I'm talking about http://isweb33.infoseek.co.jp/art/yakko2/kanashimi.asf
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Post by: StreakInTheSky on March 02, 2007, 11:33:22 PM
A remake of that song would probably be cool. It has a really nice sound(though the arrangement sounds kinda cheap :lol:). A modern arrangement would kick ass.

Though I'd prefer an original song, I wouldn't be dissappointed with the remake.
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Post by: Shoko on March 03, 2007, 12:19:58 AM
I want the song to sound like Yuujou/This Is Unmei/Shabondama.

For the love of all things holy.
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Post by: genericpaperdoll on March 03, 2007, 01:14:04 AM
^ oo that would be awesome ^_^

I like the title of this single. I hope it's a great song for Yossi's last (and let Yossi be lead please!) Can't wait :kgreat:
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Post by: LovelyMermaid on March 03, 2007, 01:51:20 AM
Quote from: roninbuddha;320202
i get a bad feeling. :(


Me too, i dunno what the deal is XD
I think it'll probably be kind of dark and Im not a fan of dark o:
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Post by: jafeijai on March 03, 2007, 02:55:59 AM
"Kanashimi Twilight"? Sounds awfully like a sad ballad to me...or maybe it's just my mind's way of wanting another kickass ballad from MM -_- In any case, since it's Yoshizawa's last single, this should be GREAT!

Tsunku, you'd best not mess this up...:x
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Post by: Yuna on March 03, 2007, 03:41:58 AM
I am still listenig to Egao YES NUDE like mad they already announce another single !!!  
Regardless of how the music is I hope it becames good at whatever kinf of music genre it tries to achieve.
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Post by: momo23 on March 06, 2007, 06:17:12 PM
preorder links for the new single at amazon

A version
http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000NVL0RI/

B version
http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000NVL0RS/
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Masabi on March 11, 2007, 02:37:12 AM
Quote from: LovelyMermaid;321038
Me too, i dunno what the deal is XD
I think it'll probably be kind of dark and Im not a fan of dark o:


It's a bit foolish to think it will be dark for having "twilight" in it.
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Post by: Yasu on March 11, 2007, 03:44:37 AM
Quote from: Gray;326434
It's a bit foolish to think it will be dark for having "twilight" in it.

You know, it's Lovely's opinion... It's okay if she thinks that the name gives her that impression.
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Post by: yumestarlet on March 11, 2007, 04:37:00 AM
Quote from: Gray;326434
It's a bit foolish to think it will be dark for having "twilight" in it.


And, uh, generally, 'twilight' implies darkness. I'm assuming it'll be something dark, too. :|
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Post by: Yuuyami on March 11, 2007, 04:51:34 AM
Quote from: yumestarlet;326534
And, uh, generally, 'twilight' implies darkness. I'm assuming it'll be something dark, too. :|


Just like the name "Shabondama" sounding like a lovely energetic bubblegum-pop song but it turns out to be a harsh rhythm based song xD
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Post by: yumestarlet on March 11, 2007, 04:56:05 AM
Quote from: Yuuyami;326542
Just like the name "Shabondama" sounding like a lovely energetic bubblegum-pop song but it turns out to be a harsh rhythm based song xD


XD! That's true! But with this one, we also have 'Kanashimi' which means... sorrow (right?) Eek!
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Post by: Kei on March 11, 2007, 05:44:31 AM
Quote from: yumestarlet;326548
XD! That's true! But with this one, we also have 'Kanashimi' which means... sorrow (right?) Eek!


Correct. It also means "sadness" and "grief" but they're just synonyms of each other, really.
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Post by: faraithi on March 11, 2007, 09:16:19 AM
All this talk of sadness is reminding me of MoMusu's 'Memory...' and 'Furusato' singles in 1999, shortly before their Gold Era started with 'Love Machine'...
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Post by: Nyago on March 15, 2007, 06:32:23 PM
The c/w is “Hand made CITY” according to Tsunku's website.  (http://www.tsunku.net/morning_musume.htm#mo_33)
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Post by: RionZ on March 15, 2007, 07:03:54 PM
Needs moar Li Chun -____-
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Post by: prettylovely1 on March 15, 2007, 10:38:55 PM
Quote from: RionZ;329987
Needs moar Li Chun -____-


I agree I can't wait to hear the new girls sing. I want them on this single. I don't care what the haters are saying. FRESH MEAT!
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Post by: burichu on March 15, 2007, 11:20:37 PM
I like the sound of it. :-: because yossie leaving is totally kanashimi, and it feels that momusu is in it's twilight right now....goodness....i hope these chinese girls help their PR.
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Post by: Nyago on March 16, 2007, 12:00:23 AM
Quote from: prettylovely1;330172
I agree I can't wait to hear the new girls sing. I want them on this single. I don't care what the haters are saying. FRESH MEAT!


I think RionZ was referring to the fact that Li Chun knows English.
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Post by: tiny on March 16, 2007, 12:35:08 AM
This Sanspo article (http://www.sanspo.com/geino/top/gt200703/gt2007031602.html) says the new members will not be on the single.
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Post by: Angelus on March 16, 2007, 01:07:25 AM
Yeah, that's too bad, but at least we'll hear from them like a week after the single comes out. I think it's for the better though, like they'd debut as a whole new 8th generation, so to speak.

Anyway, totally anticipating this. It sound interesting. Come on Yossie lead vocals~
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Post by: Linus on March 17, 2007, 02:26:05 PM
Quote from: tiny;330274
This Sanspo article (http://www.sanspo.com/geino/top/gt200703/gt2007031602.html) says the new members will not be on the single.
Good. It's fair enough to have this one attached to Hitomi's grad only. And the next one get the appeal of the newcomers.

Quote from: rui at Jpopmusic
Quote
道重亀井久住はソロパートなし
田中吉澤光井新垣は1フレーズずつ
藤本高橋は2フレーズずつ
メインは藤本の印象
Sayu, Eri and Koharu has no solo part
Reina, Yossui, Mittsi and Gaki-san 1 phrase each
Miki and Ai-chan 2 each

Main was Miki-ish


It seems like a pretty 激しい感じの曲 aggressive-ish song :w00t:
I like how does this look. :)

*Listens to Sexy8 rip*

Yeah I was right on my feeling. Miki rlz a rockish song. Kanashimi is a very decent song for Hitomi's goodbye. I'm surprised Tsunku didn't give this to Berryz. He finally gives a decent song to Morning Musume. JKM, Iroppoi and Sexy Boy have a new partner in my playlist.
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Post by: Stryfe on March 17, 2007, 03:44:09 PM
Ok. Listening to the rip. First impression: Best MM song since RMDB.

Woot.
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Post by: Linus on March 17, 2007, 04:00:18 PM
Quote from: Stryfe;331482
Ok. Listening to the rip. First impression: Best MM song since RMDB.

Woot.
And I thought I'd be too pretentious to say it! Now I know Stryfe's on my side, I second it. I definitely think JKM, Iroppoi, and Sexy Boy have been the best upbeat songs and most worth songs since Go Girl KNV but Kanashimi is definitely a new Roman MDB which was indeed one of their best songs to date next to gold-era pop hits.
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Post by: aedon on March 17, 2007, 04:03:37 PM
Kanashimi Twilight (Sexy 8 Beat concert rip) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/tyxbrq)
I've cut it o/ It's good \o Share it all over \o/
YSI mirror (http://download.yousendit.com/5C8B729A707187EC)
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Post by: jompuan on March 17, 2007, 04:05:16 PM
Yay...thank you very much aedon :)
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Post by: metoice on March 17, 2007, 04:06:30 PM
Quote from: RionZ;329987
Needs moar Li Chun -____-



YET -_-
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Post by: mr.niigaki on March 17, 2007, 04:12:19 PM
Thanks for the rip! :heart:

Sounds really good, it'll be really great with high quality.

I hope I will be able to buy the single.
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Post by: BoA-TiM on March 17, 2007, 04:13:02 PM
now that's what i'm talking about, damn awesome song !!
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Post by: Ayabie on March 17, 2007, 06:53:34 PM
I don't like this at all. Could be because of the quality of the recording. I'll comment after I've heard the two other ones.

Quote
好きにさせたいなって【藤本】 急にいなくならないで【藤本】
だから口づけを【高橋】 長く拒んでだの【高橋】
いつも咎めて優しくて【藤本】 電話もつかまるし【高橋】
気が付きゃどんどん許してた【ユニゾン】

男なんてなんて信じたり【ユニゾン】
だってだって 嘘ばっかり【ユニゾン】
言い訳ぐらいしてみてよ【光井】

他のなんかなんか 男とは【ユニゾン】
きっときっと違うとか【ユニゾン】 思い込んでたトワイライト【藤本】

恋に落ちていった【藤本】 それが恋とも知らずに【藤本】
心振るわせる【高橋】 涙となる予感【高橋】
わざとわがまま言ったのに【藤本】 迎えに来てくれた 【高橋】
好きになるしかなかったみたい【ユニゾン】

私なんかなんか夢見てた【ユニゾン】
なんかなんか のぼせてた【ユニゾン】
謝られても意味がない【田中】

いつかきっときっと こうなると【ユニゾン】
全部全部分かってた【ユニゾン】 悲しみ恋のトワイライト【新垣】

私なんかなんか夢見てた【吉澤】
なんかなんか のぼせてた【吉澤】
謝られても意味がない【吉澤】

いつかきっときっと こうなると【ユニゾン】
全部全部分かってた【ユニゾン】 悲しみ恋のトワイライト【高橋】

Temporary lyrics.
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Post by: Yasu on March 17, 2007, 07:10:19 PM
Thanks for the kanji, Ayabie! Here's the romanized + color-coded lyrics.
 
Quote
Yoshizawa Fujimoto Takahashi Niigaki
Kamei Michishige Tanaka Kusumi Mitsui
 
Suki ni sa se ta natte
kyuu nii naku nara nai de
Dakara kuchizuke wo
Nagaku koban de dano
 
[Fuj/Mic] Itsumo togame te
[Fuj/Mic] Yasashiku te
[Tak/Ku] Denwa mo tsukamaru shi
[Yo/Nii/Ka/Tan/Mit] Kigatsukya dondon yurushi te ta
 
Otoko nante nante shinji tari
Datte datte uso bakkari
Iiwake gurai shi te mi te yo
 
Ta to ni nanka nanka otoko to ha
Kitto kitto chigau toka
Omoikon de ta towaraito
 
Koi ni ochi te itta
Sore ga koi to mo shira zu ni
Kokoro furuwa seru
Namida to naru yokan
 
Wazato wagamama itta noni
mukae ni ki te kure ta
suki ni naru shika nakatta mitai
 
watashi nanka nanka yumemi te ta
nanka nanka nobose te ta
ayamara re te mo imi ga nai
 
itsuka kitto kitto kou naru to
zenbu zenbu wakatte ta
kanashimi koi no towairaito
 
watashi nanka nanka yumemi te ta
nanka nanka nobose te ta
ayamara re te mo imi ga nai
 
itsuka kitto kitto kou naru to
zenbu zenbu wakatte ta
kanashimi koi no towairaito
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Post by: Ayabie on March 17, 2007, 07:23:05 PM
Ok, I've listened to three different recordings of the song. It grew on me already. :lol: It's still nothing special, though. Some parts just really bore me. It reminds me of another song, but I can't put my tongue on it. Oh, and the lack of Kame is sad.
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Post by: SomethingWild on March 17, 2007, 07:40:12 PM
I like it so far.. XD Much more my style than the egao yes nude single
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Post by: babydoll on March 17, 2007, 07:46:33 PM
Thanks for the lyrics, Yasu. It sounds pretty like Rock n Roll but I don't know if is my favorite.
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Post by: Nouciel on March 17, 2007, 07:56:17 PM
Even since the start, it sounded cool. I'm glad that it's not a lame ballad, like the title could have suggested. It ROCKS :D
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Post by: Mikitty-saikou on March 18, 2007, 03:49:08 AM
Rokkies didn't get much lines.. I wanted to hear more of Kamei. [She's been growing on me lately. xD I've probably been watching too much HPC]

(but. Whoa, Shige with duet lines with Miki. O_o)

I like the song already and I can't wait for this to be released:heart:!!

PS.  ..It might just be me, but I'm reminded of the Mega Man X series BGM when I listen to this song.  Could the be electric guitars playing.. lol.
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Post by: max1234530 on March 18, 2007, 04:29:25 AM
NEEDS MORE RISA =O
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Post by: Kira-sama on March 18, 2007, 05:36:24 AM
^ yep, we need more Eri pls! :( but thanks the rip, loving the song :D
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Post by: TydusArandor on March 18, 2007, 08:02:34 AM
First thought was pretty much ":o! Electric guitars! :heart: :heart: "

I really like the chorus parts. I thought Yossie should've at least gotten 1 or 2 more solo lines though, since it's her graduation and all. I would've so bought this instead if I freaking knew Egao YES Nude wasn't Yossie's graduating single ;_;.

I really can't buy this, I'm going to be broke ;_;. Somewhere deep in my mind, I hope the covers turn out to be ugly ><;
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Post by: Koolmon93 on March 18, 2007, 08:21:55 AM
Can someone say Plaid Pink skirts for the costumes?
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Post by: Shoko on March 18, 2007, 09:26:54 AM
This should have been Unforgettable.
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Post by: kingthaking81 on March 18, 2007, 09:34:40 AM
I like the guitars!~very nice rock feel
looking forward to a leatherized darkish PV~
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Post by: freya86 on March 18, 2007, 11:05:15 AM
I love it :heart: Aika!!!!

::needs to pre-order::
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Post by: Seagull on March 18, 2007, 11:07:02 AM
MIKI :heart::heart::heart:

The song is really good, but it's a shame Eri doesn't have a solo line
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Post by: iacus on March 18, 2007, 11:13:21 AM
Quote from: Shoko;332021
This should have been Unforgettable.


...And Shoko's right on the money. Oh well, I never expect too much from their singles.
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Post by: Blu-Cherri on March 18, 2007, 12:37:48 PM
I heard it from the concert rip and I absolutely love it!!!
I love it more than egao!!!

kyaa~.....now I have to buy it T__T
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Post by: 楊枝君 on March 18, 2007, 01:24:45 PM
I like the song overall but I don't know, something's missing. I'll see with some higher quality rips but so far it's on the same level as Egao YES Nude. I'm kinda disappointed they gave lines to Yossi and Risa in Egao but kinda forgot about them in this single (even though Yossi does get a few lines).
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Post by: Angelus on March 18, 2007, 03:13:18 PM
Missing something? That's Eri you're talking about. And equal line distribution. It's nice that Miki and Takahashi have beautiful voices, but the rest of the girls do too.
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Ching1670 on March 18, 2007, 04:30:19 PM
This could make a great concert song
The rock style and all the base present...nice :D
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Blu-Cherri on March 18, 2007, 05:02:34 PM
Well grad songs almost never emphasize the graduates, i mean how can you tell that as for one day was Kei's last?? manpaower with karoi etc...i think isaid this before, oh well..

Anyway there's probably apush for takahashi cuz she's going to have a solo album right?? and miki and takahashi's voices go well together so that worked out.
Though i do prefer when lines are distibuted better definately!!
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Takatity on March 18, 2007, 05:14:53 PM
Thank for lyric. Ai and miki are main but I think Yossi should sing more lines
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Stryfe on March 18, 2007, 05:30:09 PM
Yeah, I'm kinda bummed too that they gave most of the singing to the talented singers. :doh:

And why bring Forgettable into this? That song was utterly mediocre.
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: yokoso on March 18, 2007, 07:47:20 PM
I can't stand concert rips >___________<  The chanting makes it so hard for me to hear everything... I can't wait for the radio version.. from what I could make out though, it sounds great.

Thanks <3333
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Post by: RionZ on March 18, 2007, 08:38:26 PM
Quote from: Stryfe;332202
Yeah, I'm kinda bummed too that they gave most of the singing to the talented singers. :doh:

And why bring Forgettable into this? That song was utterly mediocre.


lol Stryfe

people were just wishing MKB just got as good as a song as this, apparently :rolleyes:
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: wakaba_doll on March 19, 2007, 12:47:34 AM
The song sounds good, but the listless clapping and 'wota chanting' kind of ruined it for me XD LOL Waiting for a better rip before I get this one
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: RetsuMarippe on March 19, 2007, 04:22:52 AM
hmm...I'm looking forward for this one. :ONcool1:
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: LaJon on March 19, 2007, 05:07:30 AM
Sounds good.  Glad to hear Takahashi in full force.
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Samorbit82 on March 20, 2007, 04:51:19 PM
Really looking forward to this single! LOVE IT
i still have a hard time hearing which one is singing though.
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Parhelion69 on March 20, 2007, 10:43:25 PM
Everytime I listen to the song it definitely grows on me (every single since Renai Revolution acomplished that for me, and I end up liking the song a lot), but after the pure bliss that was Egao Yes nude, this feels a tad short.:doh:

Anyway I consider it to be better than aruiteru and ambitious, but sexy boy eats twilight alive! XD

Also it seems like too much "standard Jpop" to my taste, I always liked MM cause their songs are so different (I like only a handful other jpop artists...), also this song has obvious 80/early 90 jpop influence, which isn't my coup of tea...

Anyway, the single is not bad at all, it's very good, but not as good as it should've been, but then again, after Egao, it's really hard for any song to acomplish beating it...
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ASSEMblerEX on March 20, 2007, 11:10:53 PM
The name seems ominous with the halving of HM and the two new "WTF?"
members, hitomi graduation.
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: RionZ on March 20, 2007, 11:26:51 PM
Quote from: ASSEMblerEX;334373
The name seems ominous with the halving of HM and the two new "WTF?"
members, hitomi graduation.


LOL, funniest assessment of current H!P I heard in a while...or ever, haha
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on March 21, 2007, 05:46:32 AM
Just listened to it. Fucking METAL!!! \m/ :lol:

I really like the guitars. Sounds like fighting game music or something from some 80's anime. It's pretty bad ass. I'm not ready to say it's better than Egao YES Nude but it's nice. This better have a kickass PV... but I'm pretty sure it won't... A song like this screams for a higher budget...
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BakHamNoi on March 23, 2007, 08:28:42 AM
Hmmm this single sounds promising.

I'm loving the concert rip

(edit: Ai and Miki pownz all :lol:)
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: shadowstar on March 23, 2007, 08:49:16 AM
For now, it sounds interesting to me, a good kind of interesting.

I don't love it yet, but maybe after a better version and more listens, I definitely will.
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Ms. McBackpack on March 23, 2007, 03:59:42 PM
Kanashimi Twilight promo
http://download.yousendit.com/4C2401FA6FEA4FA8

(http://picroda.jphip.org/thumb/1174662243530s.jpg) (http://picroda.jphip.org/src/1174662243530.jpg)

Friggin' cool costumes.
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Angelus on March 23, 2007, 04:06:19 PM
Sayu's hair is ugly! ;_; Reminds me of Mr. Moonlight. And Aika sounds better here than live... hmm, oh well.
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Yasu on March 23, 2007, 04:06:53 PM
omfg. omfg. BEST SINGLE EVER SINCE SINCE --- I DON'T KNOW.
 
FNMFNA YOSSI LOOKS AWESOME. Thanks, tama!
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: maliciel on March 23, 2007, 04:07:40 PM
Costumes are pretty nice. Song itself, not so.
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Stryfe on March 23, 2007, 04:08:45 PM
Quote from: Ms. McBackpack;336416
Watch the promo here
http://download.yousendit.com/4C2401FA6FEA4FA8

(http://picroda.jphip.org/thumb/1174662243530s.jpg) (http://picroda.jphip.org/src/1174662243530.jpg)

Friggin' cool costumes.
Holy shit. Flawless Victory!

Everything about this single is awesome so far.
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: mr.niigaki on March 23, 2007, 04:16:08 PM
Thanks for the CM!

Holy crap that shocked me with how good that was! I can't believe that they get those outfits! Sayu's hair made me think of Roman. Listening to that little bit of the song totally improved it for me, wows.

I really can't wait for a PV and the single to be out.
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: anythursday on March 23, 2007, 04:17:35 PM
Quote from: Ms. McBackpack;336416
Kanashimi Twilight promo
http://download.yousendit.com/4C2401FA6FEA4FA8

(http://picroda.jphip.org/thumb/1174662243530s.jpg) (http://picroda.jphip.org/src/1174662243530.jpg)

Friggin' cool costumes.


DAMN i cant wait. thanks so much.
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BakHamNoi on March 23, 2007, 04:24:00 PM
this fucking roxxx/hawt and all x)
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Seagull on March 23, 2007, 04:24:38 PM
I WANT THE PV NOW
I don't what to say more then "HOOOT" :heart::drool:
Love Miki and Eri's clothes :pen_bleed:
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on March 23, 2007, 04:30:14 PM
HOLY SHITE that is SEXY!!!!!!!!!! OMG

I love the PINK!!!!! And their outfits and do's!! OMG Eri looks like a wicked dream (in a good way)!! WAHHHH

*walks around waving her arms & bumping into things*
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Fenrir on March 23, 2007, 04:42:37 PM
More screencaps! Must post cuz it's OMG SEXY!

(http://picroda.jphip.org/thumb/1174664374071s.jpg) (http://picroda.jphip.org/src/1174664374071.jpg)

Reminds me of Roman My Dear Boy outfit wise a bit. Miki in leather skirt :heart: XD She looks awesome!!! *melts into a puddle of goo* :heart:
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: len.chan on March 23, 2007, 04:46:00 PM
If the song was bad I wouldn't even care 'cause the girls look stunning, gorgeous and damn hot in the PV, but even the song rocks! XD definitely.. that's going to be a good single and a great goodbye to Yossi
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Angelus on March 23, 2007, 04:47:47 PM
Yup, Eri is one big piece of sex. <3

But for some reason she reminds me of someone I know. And that scares me.

EDIT: Uploaded the promo in case anyone doesn't wanna download it.. yeah.

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v322470N6jjM83F
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: stefy on March 23, 2007, 05:24:29 PM
ah ha~~A!! YES! a cool rock-ish song by Morning Musume!! Might I add... YOSSI LOOKS AWESOME!! black skirt, black tie, black everything + cool hairstyle woo~ perfect image for her PERFECT!
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ichijoujirena on March 23, 2007, 05:29:01 PM
The song is still growing on me...but wow! The promo makes it so much better.

I was afraid there would be a lack of Yossi, but it seems like it'll have lots and lots of her. :D :MKlove2:
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Nouciel on March 23, 2007, 06:18:59 PM
Lulz, Roman my dear boy oufits!
KAMEI IS TEH SEX XD
And yey for yankii Reina
Morning Musume I love you again XD
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: dat on March 23, 2007, 06:25:55 PM
i love it!! LOVE aika :)
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: RionZ on March 23, 2007, 07:20:50 PM
Eri reminds me of Rika from Roman My Dear Boy as well...

...which means fuckin hawtness \o/

I'm soo lookin forward to this lol
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: S-N-I-P-E-R on March 23, 2007, 07:25:18 PM
woah yossie looks WOW, i also thought there wouldnt be much of her but i guess there is.
From everyone though koharu and miki seem to look the same.

They all sound and look great though i really like this rockyness
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Ayabie on March 23, 2007, 07:27:19 PM
Holy shit, Eri. :O

Looks like they spent every penny on the outfits and shot the PV at the usual cheap place, though. lulz. The song is still nothing special.
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on March 23, 2007, 07:30:34 PM
I like the outfits and the stare they give, Its pretty good to me. Though I'm not sure about the song yet till I hear a clearer version of the whole song or till I hear what its about in terms of meaning. But thats certainly got my attention
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Cookie on March 23, 2007, 07:43:51 PM
Quote from: Ms. McBackpack;336416
Kanashimi Twilight promo
http://download.yousendit.com/4C2401FA6FEA4FA8

(http://picroda.jphip.org/thumb/1174662243530s.jpg) (http://picroda.jphip.org/src/1174662243530.jpg)

Friggin' cool costumes.

That Risa screencap reminds me of the Namida PV. :ONwhistle:

I'm loving this preview so far. They all look rockin'!! and Aika = :heart::heart::heart:
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: freya86 on March 23, 2007, 08:56:33 PM
Quote from: Cookie;336574
They all look rockin'!! and Aika = :heart::heart::heart:


Quoted for truth!!! Aika FTMFW!!!!!

I'm so glad I pre-ordered this single ... the song is awesome and the pv looks really interesting :heart:

Also, Risa's forehead makes an appearance :D
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Post by: Kyobu on March 23, 2007, 08:58:28 PM
HOT PROMO.

The hair overall is fucking awesome, 'specially Sayumi's.
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Post by: Yuuyami on March 23, 2007, 09:08:46 PM
They finally gave Yossie a tie for a second and final time! <3

The outfits are so hawt *_____*;

And Yossie at the end is simply Yossie-licious xD

And then I finally realize how long Eri's hair is o_o;

<3
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Post by: Mikitty-saikou on March 23, 2007, 09:32:17 PM
Quote from: Yuuyami;336627


And Yossie at the end is simply Yossie-licious xD

<3


Hell yes! :drool: :heart:  

Mm.. I can't wait for the whole PV to come out. . . Lovely hair (Especially Sayumi's - Hot damn.  Reminds me a bit of Rika's hair in RMDB).

I don't mind the pink 'walls / background'.  I'm too distracted by the gals to care about it. XD
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Post by: StreakInTheSky on March 23, 2007, 09:55:54 PM
Quote from: Fenrir;336451
More screencaps! Must post cuz it's OMG SEXY!

(http://picroda.jphip.org/thumb/1174664374071s.jpg) (http://picroda.jphip.org/src/1174664374071.jpg)

Reminds me of Roman My Dear Boy outfit wise a bit. Miki in leather skirt :heart: XD She looks awesome!!! *melts into a puddle of goo* :heart:


They're definitely going for a similar theme to roman my dear boy with this one, adding a more seifuku style with it. Really reminds me of Sukeban Deka .Miki's leather skirt is awesome, but her top is too plain... she's still hot though. Yossi's outfit is awesome though and probably my favorite. Takahashi is fricken sex! :o Stylistically I'm really loving where they're going with this single :D Probably why I loved roman my dear boy so much.

The pv itself doesn't look that great, but that's expected.
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: anythursday on March 23, 2007, 10:00:31 PM
damit. why's the release date so far away?!

anyways - sayu totally reminded me of rika. and eri look sooooo gorgeous. does anybody get a feeling that miki is looking sweeter and sweeter by the day? haha Aika pawned too.
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Post by: TydusArandor on March 23, 2007, 10:16:59 PM
Much love to the outfits :heart: :heart: The pink twirly tunnels.. o_O

I'll still have to wait for the cover to decide, I'm really too broke x_X. Plus, last time I bought something I had to pay some weird tax I didn't hear about, so have to really think about it this time ><;.
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: century on March 23, 2007, 11:00:00 PM
AHH! Looks amazing!
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: mini*wheat on March 23, 2007, 11:51:51 PM
...This video and single may be going on my list of things that make 2007 best year ever. I love both A LOT. :D

Oh, and let me jump on the train...
:heart: AIKA :heart:
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: metoice on March 24, 2007, 01:38:59 AM
*melt*

Yossie's HOT!! >.<
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Post by: reyfer on March 24, 2007, 02:33:51 AM
This PV is worth it just with Yossi, Aichan and Miki, and then Sayu's hair, it's like :ONding:
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Post by: marqual on March 24, 2007, 04:55:17 AM
It's a rock song and I love it  :pen_clap:
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ferrar1 on March 24, 2007, 05:08:43 AM
Mini skirt Miki is just way hawt :heart: Reina's hairstyle is cool. All of these does reminds me of Roman dear boy. But the amt of $$ they spent on each person looks sorely unbalanced :lol:

And the song is nice, really, i like the style. Very rock-ish, reminds me of evil morning.
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: loverskids on March 24, 2007, 06:23:26 AM
The song is great and yossi miki are hot !!

but i dont like the hairstyle of risa , koharu and sayu ><

it doesn't look good
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on March 24, 2007, 06:27:49 AM
seen the promo, i like the song, ur rite, very rock-ish song indeed and their clothing and accessories proved it.  everyone look cute, but what strike me is gaki-san purple hair. haha.  

btw what's evil morning?  is it like a dj-mix or something to that nature?
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Post by: StreakInTheSky on March 24, 2007, 06:30:10 AM
evil morning is H!P songs remixed into metal arrangements.
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: shadowstar on March 24, 2007, 06:34:40 AM
Poor Risa and Sayumi, they got the baaaaad hairstyles! XD
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: bot on March 24, 2007, 06:35:54 AM
sigh... takahashi is so versatile.. i can just look at a random screenshot of her close-up and KNOW the song is called "kanashimi twilight" (ok maybe not)
most of the other girls are just trying to look good (and mostly succeeding)
i'm still not sure about aika. she's interesting.. she's part gremlin and part mogwai... and i mean this in a good way (hahaha)
and i like the 'dos, most noticeable on sayu and koharu.
plus eri channeling roman my dear boy rika is great!
as for the song... i'm not sure.. lyrics are kinda errr basic? haha will have to hear it in better quality i guess...
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Post by: Ren on March 24, 2007, 07:10:41 AM
Cool costumes, cool hairstyles.

Rockish song? And the CM overall just seems cool.

Can't wait :heart:.
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Post by: ferrar1 on March 24, 2007, 08:19:37 AM
After watching the preview countless time, i have a feeling that this single will sell :ONwahaha:

I noticed that all the girls are wearing white + black colour combination except for Yossi, Ai and Aika. I think those 3 are the leads for this song. And may i point out that Aika's voice is kinda fits nicely in the song? Her line in that preview was well above expectation. I hope she can do a Reina and become 1 of the lead for MM.

I also noticed that 6th gen had almost little to no lines, which is sad :ONfrustrated:
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: drifoy on March 24, 2007, 08:35:32 AM
Quote from: ferrar1;336985

I also noticed that 6th gen had almost little to no lines, which is sad :ONfrustrated:

i like the feel of this new single, fast-paced and solid but yeah it is really sad if 6th gens amount of lines in the song drops.
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: miki on March 24, 2007, 08:45:27 AM
eri looks stunning ^^

the songs reminds me to Roman ><~
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: kingthaking81 on March 24, 2007, 09:41:33 AM
wow pink twilight~
and yossi-miki sandwich, sayu is soo lucky!
can't wait!
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on March 24, 2007, 09:50:40 AM
After watching the promo over and over I think whats pretty awesome is they key in on their attitudes without forcing it too much, gaki, reina, eri are dressed in a style that is flattering to them and not seemingly overdone (it is still them in essence) the same can be said for all the of them (miki having the leather skirt matches her attitude sometimes, yossie's got the awesome hair, ai's got the one piece look, and aika while looking rockin' is stil her natural self). I think that works well for it, and is part of whats got me hooked
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Sukoshi on March 24, 2007, 09:59:50 AM
I watched the cm a million times over!  Love it!  They all look so cool!  Eri ! :heart:  and Yossie with the hand thing at the end was just perfect!  Can't wait for it to come out !
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: sapphin on March 24, 2007, 11:30:35 AM
the PV looks crazy good!!!
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Blu-Cherri on March 24, 2007, 11:35:48 AM
could someone re-upload the promo please?? ^^
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: raiknii on March 24, 2007, 12:11:23 PM
^ Here you go.

Kanashimi Twilight CM (http://download.yousendit.com/FE812C2645652486)

EDIT: mirror (http://www.mediafire.com/?3zm5zzhqiuh)
Title: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: lil_hamz on March 24, 2007, 03:43:07 PM
Okay I'm totally, totally blown away. There's no way I'm not getting this now.
Miki and Ai are looking fine. Leather works :P
I'm so glad Yossi got a cool get up that shows off how beautiful she is.
Reina and Koharu screams yankee and cool respectively.
But uh Risa's hair was :ON@_@:. Kinda disapponting since I really wanted her to look good but what the hell I still love her :panda_love: Not really feeling Sayu's hair either. I'm neutral about Aika,  but her singing sounds great. Final comment goes to ERI! OMG she was gorgeous :baa60776: I'm stunned and still stunned. Oh and I didn't even realize the wall was pink. Too busy staring at them XD
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Post by: LegendKiller86™ on March 24, 2007, 09:40:51 PM
The preview of the PV is awesome. Can't wait for it to come out soon~:baa60776:
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Post by: ferrar1 on April 02, 2007, 01:15:01 AM
It's time to up this thread again. This has to be 1 single that i can't wait to get my hands on  ;D
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Post by: jompuan on April 04, 2007, 01:48:03 AM
Cover :

(http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5521/discophotoqs1.jpg)

http://www.up-front-works.jp/discography/zetima/29/s_44/index.html
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Post by: StreakInTheSky on April 04, 2007, 01:57:38 AM
The first press A cover looks hot! Fuckin' knee highs and thighs!!! :O~

These outfits are the sex!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Koolmon93 on April 04, 2007, 02:00:25 AM
Hawt... But why is the Limited Edition B always the one with the mash=ups of the close-ups?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on April 04, 2007, 02:05:13 AM
because they need the hotter covers on the others and the crappy one with the booklet so people would buy all three lol

If they just got rid of the B version and put the booklet with the dvd I would've bought this for sure.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: C60533 on April 04, 2007, 02:45:13 AM
That has got to be one of the best covers so far. So let's see, the cover is awesome, the song seems good, and just the 30 second preview of the PV is  :heart: Yep. I think this is a good single for Yossie to graduate to. This really has #1 potential.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: kashi on April 04, 2007, 02:47:35 AM
ehhh.... the single covers is up already! :D

i would say... hot covers i'll choose the a & b edition.  ;)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Mikitty-saikou on April 04, 2007, 04:15:35 AM
 :luvluv1:

What a nice thing to come home to!  Lovely covers they are!  I can't wait to see bigger pictures of these. XD
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: hibachifinal on April 04, 2007, 04:56:12 AM
the B version is a bit odd, there's that empty space, it makes it look like that theres a missing member... they could ahve just centered the bottom row i think
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: len.chan on April 04, 2007, 05:43:09 AM
those covers are hot!
for once I've preordered the B edition because of the booklet, but I love the A cover.. I hope that I'll be able to find it in Japan.. I'm going the next week of the release so there's hope XD
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Sukoshi on April 04, 2007, 06:18:12 AM
ooo lovely covers!  A and dvd versions look really nice.  I especially like Yossi's pose  :heart:  Everyone looks pretty cool from what I can see  :luvuluvu:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: lil_hamz on April 04, 2007, 06:34:23 AM
Wow all 3 covers look good, they really know how to make fans spend like crazy  :rolleyes:
And YES!!! Eri's in front, it's about time. Kinda surprised Koharu is at the back though, but all's good since she gets Kirari all to herself.

Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Stryfe on April 04, 2007, 06:56:00 AM

o_O *squints* *zooms* *!*

t-t-t-thighs! (http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5880/w00tku6.gif)

Cover A is kick ass. Love the outfits.

Now all they gotta do to keep this single perfect is NOT to have some psychedelic circus outfits on the live performances.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on April 04, 2007, 07:09:24 AM
^ lol yeah

If they do change some stuff for lives hopefully it will be like what they did with Roman My Dear Boy and gave them even hotter outfits :P
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Ren on April 04, 2007, 07:19:23 AM
Great covers! I want a poster version of those covers.. :heart:
I like First Press A version most.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Ayabie on April 04, 2007, 07:22:24 AM
Generic H!P covers as always, but they look better than the previous ones~
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Kennethzzz on April 04, 2007, 08:39:36 AM
Very nice and lovely cover this time.  :heart: oo i'm so gonna get it!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BakHamNoi on April 04, 2007, 08:42:03 AM
Look good   O0
I prefer the "A version" but i need bigger pics to see more details o :p
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: mr.niigaki on April 04, 2007, 01:26:46 PM
A Version is like severly great hotness! Oh I really with B Version didn't have to suck so much in comparison... Hopefully the PB will offer some good shots (it better)!

They really need to just add the PB and DVD versions together, they'd probably end up making more money when the cd would be totally worth it.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: LovelyMermaid on April 04, 2007, 01:39:45 PM
HOLY GOD :o those are hot~
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Ame on April 04, 2007, 04:32:14 PM
There's a new member already? I'm so behind on H!P.

 I haven't listened to the preview yet, must be somewhere in this thread but the 3 covers look good. Better than previous covers IMO.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: genericpaperdoll on April 04, 2007, 04:42:38 PM
The previrw sounds great! I can't wait for this to come out and for the PV. The covers are lovely too (Yossi looking awesome ^_^)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: cynee on April 04, 2007, 05:27:46 PM
pretty & cool covers! yeah for Yossie being in the middle and Ai+Miki+ERI(!) at the front row  :heart:
i like how this new single has the 'Roman~MDB' feel, hope it turns out to be a great single so that Yossie can graduate with a bang!  ;)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: elgie on April 04, 2007, 07:49:15 PM
Agh! Time to change my order Though I can't find out how :P I didn't want the DVD so I went for limited B... ewww, it was so easy back then when there was just ONE limited version...  ::)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: wakaba_doll on April 05, 2007, 01:58:14 PM
Cover :

(http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5521/discophotoqs1.jpg)

http://www.up-front-works.jp/discography/zetima/29/s_44/index.html

Bigger and HQ soon, pls :heart:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Dj-B13 on April 05, 2007, 03:33:16 PM
The cover is so HOT~!!! :luvluv1: and so is the song too~!!!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Elle_Driver on April 05, 2007, 04:42:52 PM
here a non-live rip (2:43)

http://www.sendspace.com/file/uods1s

Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: jd23 on April 05, 2007, 05:02:53 PM
Erm...does anyone has any idea, what's the Limited Edition A's DVD is about? I mean is it the making of the video or just some short video of them etc. Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Stryfe on April 05, 2007, 05:14:33 PM
Ok, it's aural orsm until Aika sings, lol. But yeah, I still like it a whole fucking lot.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: kingthaking81 on April 05, 2007, 07:38:33 PM
yeah!  the radio preview sounds so much better than the concert rip. Looking forward to the real stuff!!1
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on April 05, 2007, 11:22:11 PM
Ok, it's aural orsm until Aika sings, lol. But yeah, I still like it a whole fucking lot.

Agreed.

The guitars are even more bad ass when you can hear them better.


what? NOOOO They cut off the solo! T_T
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: anythursday on April 06, 2007, 12:17:00 AM
damnnnnn this song is total love.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Dj-B13 on April 06, 2007, 01:38:41 AM
here a non-live rip (2:43)

http://www.sendspace.com/file/uods1s



THANK YOU~!!! and this song rocks  :heart:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: sakurasake on April 06, 2007, 01:49:55 AM
i cant wait to see their live on ms sp tonite... they have such awesome outfits this time...  :heart:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Kira-sama on April 06, 2007, 02:41:56 AM
song's great, promo preview is great, awesome costumes, what more can i say?  :jerkoff:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 06, 2007, 03:10:04 AM
Whoo just listened to that promo and its a good listen! can't wait for it! ok actually I can cause I can't afford it right now...lol. But I wanna see the pv!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: jlk on April 06, 2007, 03:40:04 AM
Just watched the preview, it looks good, Reina looks hot and the song is catchy, another good single to add to my collection of MM songs.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Rick-e on April 06, 2007, 03:57:06 AM
When I saw Sayumi in the preview with her hair pulled up i was like "woah"

This single really suits Yossie's style :) it's pretty badass.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Ayabie on April 06, 2007, 11:41:55 AM
キタ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━ !!!!

(http://img106.imagevenue.com/loc1020/th_59415_ms2_122_1020lo.jpg) (http://img106.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=59415_ms2_122_1020lo.jpg)(http://img120.imagevenue.com/loc207/th_59416_ms3_122_207lo.jpg) (http://img120.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=59416_ms3_122_207lo.jpg)(http://img171.imagevenue.com/loc72/th_59423_ms4_122_72lo.jpg) (http://img171.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=59423_ms4_122_72lo.jpg)(http://img121.imagevenue.com/loc163/th_59313_ms8_122_163lo.jpg) (http://img121.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=59313_ms8_122_163lo.jpg)(http://img171.imagevenue.com/loc156/th_59321_ms9_122_156lo.jpg) (http://img171.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=59321_ms9_122_156lo.jpg)

(http://img148.imagevenue.com/loc142/th_59323_ms10_122_142lo.jpg) (http://img148.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=59323_ms10_122_142lo.jpg)(http://img154.imagevenue.com/loc204/th_59330_ms11_122_204lo.jpg) (http://img154.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=59330_ms11_122_204lo.jpg)(http://img172.imagevenue.com/loc201/th_59495_ms12_122_201lo.jpg) (http://img172.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=59495_ms12_122_201lo.jpg)(http://img103.imagevenue.com/loc182/th_59500_ms13_122_182lo.jpg) (http://img103.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=59500_ms13_122_182lo.jpg)(http://img143.imagevenue.com/loc733/th_59502_ms14_122_733lo.jpg) (http://img143.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=59502_ms14_122_733lo.jpg)(http://img28.imagevenue.com/loc219/th_59508_ms15_122_219lo.jpg) (http://img28.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=59508_ms15_122_219lo.jpg)

Thighs... lots of them...
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: jompuan on April 06, 2007, 11:46:45 AM
I can't wait to download !!!

thanks Ayabie for preview
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: sousora on April 06, 2007, 11:47:55 AM
I feel like I'm watching AKB48. So many upskirt shots! Some of those hairstyles are kinda iffy, but I love the outfits.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Stryfe on April 06, 2007, 12:17:47 PM
Yeah those upskirt shots are lame, but otherwise daymn, hot stuff. Everyone looks amazing, and DAMN am I glad they kept these outfits for the live performances.

Gotta find this perf. :O
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: nekochan on April 06, 2007, 12:32:07 PM
cant wait to see the full version of the pv!!
wonder what the choreography is like...
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: mr.niigaki on April 06, 2007, 12:51:40 PM
Thanks for the non-live rip and the screencaps! Everything about this so far is just wonderful!  :heart: :heart:

I really can't wait for a PV or a preformance to watch.

I'm so glad I got a job so I can afford this, a great way to send Yossi off.

I love the outfits so much, everyone looks just great. *can't wait for the PB either*
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: anythursday on April 06, 2007, 02:01:20 PM
thanks for the caps... i'm absolutely dying to watch the performance. haha so patiently waiting for my 30 h limit to be up. lol
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ctkv on April 06, 2007, 02:18:33 PM
Here is a LQ version of today MS live in youtube
Link Here >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kPC8KBKtjU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kPC8KBKtjU)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Ren on April 06, 2007, 02:30:52 PM
It bothers me the way they write it as "Yoshizawa Hitomi Last Stage" XD, as if she won't perform again.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: anythursday on April 06, 2007, 02:41:31 PM
thanks for the link! wow... yossie looks so freaking kakoi!!!!  O0

i have to say, ai's outfit stands out the most. at first i was like EH? haha but she still looks gorgeous. :) i lurve sayu's hair.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Ayabie on April 06, 2007, 03:11:25 PM
I like most parts of the choreography, but the song is still half-assed.

Nonetheless, good graduation single for Yossie.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Stryfe on April 06, 2007, 03:13:17 PM
Ok watched it now...

HOT STUFF.

The choreography is awesome, the song is total win, outfits, everything....

Yeah, this is pretty much perfect in every way. Finally.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: cynee on April 06, 2007, 03:15:06 PM
thanks for the YT link.

i really like the song + perf! it's great that Yossie is clearly the focus of the dance and i am glad she has a solo part  :heart: . it is a little sad that she's graduating because it seems like she's at her peak in MM now, whereby she has more lines and looks great at the same time! i am so loving the live, for its leaders' trio (Yossie+Miki+Ai), dance, outfits, everything!  :D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: metoice on April 06, 2007, 03:33:03 PM
(http://galleries.jphip.net/hellopro/albums/userpics/10003/thumb_M03320865-01.jpg) (http://galleries.jphip.net/hellopro/albums/userpics/10003/M03320865-01.jpg)(http://galleries.jphip.net/hellopro/albums/userpics/10003/thumb_M03320866-01.jpg) (http://galleries.jphip.net/hellopro/albums/userpics/10003/M03320866-01.jpg)(http://galleries.jphip.net/hellopro/albums/userpics/10003/thumb_M03320867-01.jpg) (http://galleries.jphip.net/hellopro/albums/userpics/10003/M03320867-01.jpg)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: elgie on April 06, 2007, 03:53:15 PM
Love the guitar in this song.

And, as for the MS performance, Yossi looked so happy in it I can't help but congratulate for such a great graduation song. It suits her, it makes her shine - she lost the tone only once, yay! XD - and it pumps me up. Now I want it to be a number 1 or else I'm blowing all the japanese's ears off for their lack of musical sense. They just can't like it less than Aruitecrap, damn!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on April 06, 2007, 03:59:47 PM
I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!! THE PERF IS ALL KINDS OF AWESOME. I'm not even the biggest Yossi fan but she really runs this show! Loving the outfits, the choreography, the hair (yeah I like 'em do'z!) and the song is really energetic, too!! Ah I need to watch this again!

I thought Egao Yes Nude was good but this is even better :O I'm loving this new rise of Momusu in terms of quality! I know eventually there'll be a disappointment again but for now I'M LOVING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on April 06, 2007, 04:49:18 PM
Here's the performance, better quality than Youtube http://www.sendspace.com/file/tq8srt
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Nouciel on April 06, 2007, 05:16:44 PM
I love the perf <3 Yossie, you're irreplacable.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on April 06, 2007, 05:22:02 PM
And here's the Music Station talk http://www.sendspace.com/file/3wvf13
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: anythursday on April 06, 2007, 07:15:21 PM
thanks for the talk segment reyfer. i think its adorable how aika sat between miki and yossie. and how friendly she looks with yossie :)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Slack on April 06, 2007, 07:45:30 PM
Watching the better-quality perf, I got the jibblies. :)
I agree with the "Aruitecrap" sentiment.  This deserves a #1 more than Aruiteru.  Period.
...Which reminds me, I gotta order this!

I don't think the upskirts bothered them.  If they were worried upskirt shots, why the heck did they wear those skirts in the first place?
Bottom line: short skirts are awesome.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ichijoujirena on April 06, 2007, 08:52:10 PM
Yossi in thigh-highs...  :imdead: :luvluv2:

The live seriously just saved this whole single for me. I didn't like the song at all when the first concert rip came out..but now it's really grown on me. I'm tempted to preorder the limited B, but the cover bugs me too much. At least Egao's B had a decent cover.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: THUNDERDUCK on April 06, 2007, 08:55:41 PM
Risa's hair is long (unless extensions), it almost gives Kaori's a run for the money.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 06, 2007, 09:13:28 PM
Its awesome! The song has a style that feels like the past, but its very upbeat awesome. watching that performance is awesome and more so can't wait to see more stuff!

Hurray for yossie getting center and having fun!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Koolmon93 on April 06, 2007, 09:31:36 PM
It's extensions. She couldn't have grown that much hair in 2 months. Her hair was shoulders length in February!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on April 07, 2007, 02:44:09 AM
Fucking HOT performance. The camera work was kinda shit though, can't wait to see it on a different show.

Everyone looked great!

But I don't really like Aika's top... it looked they got it off some doll(and not those life sized ones). Way too small when she really doesn't have much to show...

The choreography and song really gives an 80's feel. After a little more listens the song arrangement is pretty mediocre, but the guitars make up for it.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Kamui on April 07, 2007, 07:08:03 AM
I (minus Aika's parts )completely loved it! They took everything I like and put it together, girls + short skirts + girls wearing ties/boots = friggin' hot. I loved Yossie

It could still be a little better but I love it as it is anyways. I hope those are the same clothes for the PV, they need to just start wearing normal clothes now. No more ridiculous costumes, please.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Gblue on April 07, 2007, 07:25:15 AM
yossi got centre stage! 
:D yay :D
i like how this single sounds.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 07, 2007, 08:20:11 AM
The song is very in your face in lyrics from what I could pick up about it too... honestly my japanese is pretty bad though but from what I got from the song its got that soft but sharp edge thing. I love yossie singing that line "ayamararetemo imi ga nai" it struck out to me hearing her sing it... but then again my attention is usually on the weird parts of songs.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Ren on April 07, 2007, 08:37:12 AM
Please sell better than Aruiteru :heart:.

After watching the performance more than 100 times already, I really like the start of the performance where they are kind of head banging, Aichan and Miki look so great there :heart:.

And I'm so glad they wear something under those skirts :D.

Miki and Sayumi leather skirt = WIN :D. And Kamei wear a different top from the cover and PV :D. As for Shige, she still has the pink :). Risa's extension is also awesome XD.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Dj-B13 on April 07, 2007, 08:51:08 AM
Please sell better than Aruiteru :heart:.

After watching the performance more than 100 times already, I really like the start of the performance where they are kind of head banging, Aichan and Miki look so great there :heart:.

And I'm so glad they wear something under those skirts :D.

Miki and Sayumi leather skirt = WIN :D. And Kamei wear a different top from the cover and PV :D. As for Shige, she still has the pink :). Risa's extension is also awesome XD.

Very well said.

Everything for the performance is A+

All the girls llooOookKk very GOOOD~!!  :luvluv1:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: SomethingWild on April 07, 2007, 09:28:26 AM
thanks for posting the hq video!

Parts of this song remind me of daite yo please go one.. which is a good thing btw  ;D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: wakaba_doll on April 07, 2007, 03:18:33 PM
The live seriously just saved this whole single for me. I didn't like the song at all when the first concert rip came out..but now it's really grown on me. 

I feel the exact same way!  :heart: I seriously wasn't going to buy this single because it seemed like a mediocre song, but watching the live, the music is great and I love the Yossi and Miki leads. I could have done without Aika's solo line (maybe that was just in the perf though XD) but overall it's an awesome song. I'm curious about the b-side, but I'm sold on the a-side now :heart:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Yasu on April 07, 2007, 04:54:07 PM
PV is up at Dohhhup (http://www.dohhhup.com/movie/x8B0INZDkGunaDWex6BWWEkBip2ID8pA/view.php)!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on April 07, 2007, 05:07:49 PM
OH....MY....GOD!!!!! :luvluv1: :luvluv1:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: jompuan on April 07, 2007, 05:09:37 PM
Download Here !!! ( if you want  ;D )

(PV) Morning Musume - Kanashimi Twilight (http://www.sendspace.com/file/m24fe7)

original file is .flv

ีUpload by me & thanks - dohhhup :w00t:  :heart:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Koolmon93 on April 07, 2007, 05:16:10 PM
Kanashimi Twilight

Yoshizawa Fujimoto Takahashi Niigaki
Kamei Michishige Tanaka Kusumi Mitsui
 
Suki ni sa se ta natte
kyuu nii naku nara nai de
Dakara kuchizuke wo
Nagaku koban de dano
 
[Fu/Mic] Itsumo togame te
[Fu/Mic] Yasashiku te
[Tak/Ku] Denwa mo tsukamaru shi
[Yo/Nii/Ka/Tan/Mit] Kigatsukya dondon yurushi te ta
 
[Yo/Fu] Otoko nante nante shinji tari
[Tak/Ka] Datte datte uso bakkari
Iiwake gurai shi te mi te yo
 
[Fu/Nii] Ta to ni nanka nanka otoko to ha
[Tak/Tan] Kitto kitto chigau toka
Omoikon de ta towaraito
 
Koi ni ochi te itta
Sore ga koi to mo shira zu ni
Kokoro furuwa seru
Namida to naru yokan
 
[Fu/Mic] Wazato wagamama itta noni
[Tak/Ku] mukae ni ki te kure ta
[Yo/Nii/Ka/Tan/Mit] suki ni naru shika nakatta mitai
 
[Yo/Fu] watashi nanka nanka yumemi te ta
[Tak/Ka] nanka nanka nobose te ta
ayamara re te mo imi ga nai
 
[Fu/Nii] itsuka kitto kitto kou naru to
[Tak/Tan] zenbu zenbu wakatte ta
kanashimi koi no towairaito
 
watashi nanka nanka yumemi te ta
nanka nanka nobose te ta
ayamara re te mo imi ga nai
 
[Fu/Nii] itsuka kitto kitto kou naru to
[Tak/Tan] zenbu zenbu wakatte ta
kanashimi koi no towairaito

Updated and re-done color-code! Enjoy!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: shadowstar on April 07, 2007, 05:30:28 PM
I actually think the simplicity is working for the video.

At first glance it looks like another cheap video, but it works out in the end, even that plain (but definitely bold and eye-catching) background. The song is great, one of the better MM singles in a LONG time, and every single girl is looking gorgeous!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: len.chan on April 07, 2007, 05:39:17 PM
all that I can say right now is...
UAH~ :nya:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Nouciel on April 07, 2007, 05:45:32 PM
I agree with Arian on the simplicity. Good use of colours, and also the outfits match with the "simple" background. This is what I call a goddamn freaking AMAZING graduation single, and PV.

EDIT: Since MM is giving me the image of a real group again, I didn't focus on one girl only. Everyone looked fantastic. I love the 80's feeling this song has, and I loved this song since the first radio rip came in. the perf. of course helped me to appreaciate it more. but still, what was the last mm pv i got really excited about..? joshi kashimashi? :0 this isn't a super high-budget pv, but the great camera angles (it's not your average H!P pv with close-ups and dance shots.. it has some more than that) and the cool outfits more than make up for it. plus, it's not sugary all sweet, actually it's as mature as Roman my dear boy. and the guitar is AWESOME.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on April 07, 2007, 06:02:27 PM
Download Here !!! ( if you want  ;D )
Thanks jompuan!! ^__^

OMG I LOVE THIS PV!!!!1 They look so awesome and I love the pink!!!!!! AGHHH!!! Awesome stuff!!!

Best part: Aichan's kick at the beginning!! I went like O_____X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: shadowstar on April 07, 2007, 06:07:12 PM
Best part: Aichan's kick at the beginning!! I went like O_____X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Haha, same here!! I totally loved that part, Ai's high kick was awesome :heart:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: anythursday on April 07, 2007, 06:09:11 PM
This song totally pawns. SERIOUSLY. What a great way to Yossie off - with edge and blast :)

edit:
- Koharu is looking stunning here... it's hard to imagine she's about the same age as Aika.
- Aika is so cute looking :)
- Eri -- wow. Some of the most smoldering looks.
- Sayu - that girl's hair is seriously hot. and i like the she stares into the camera, with this 'stare-you-down' feel but at the same time, its kinda nonchalant.
- Yossie -- super kakoii
- Miki - is it just me or is she looking SWEETER AND SWEETER by the day? haha i think she's been with aya too much lately. not that i'm complaining... but in some of the recent shots, i'm like WOW. she's overflowing with sweetness.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: elgie on April 07, 2007, 06:41:28 PM
Man, she gets the center position in the dance, she gets the last shot, her solo line shots are, wow, are like, outstanding, and plus:

(http://www.imageox.com/image/39353-Clipboard0.jpeg)

 :jerkoff:

Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Stryfe on April 07, 2007, 06:42:22 PM
(http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2919/aiktkick3qx1.gif)

pwnage.

Yeah, same old concept, honed to perfection. I guess the backdrops are simple to focus all the attention to the awesome outfits.

All is good. Stryfe is pleased.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Ayabie on April 07, 2007, 06:51:55 PM
Like many others mentioned this might actually be the best graduation single for a member so far, even though I still yawn at the song. The PV is perfect, though. :O Thanks for the gif Stryfe~
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: S-N-I-P-E-R on April 07, 2007, 07:54:46 PM
lol at elgie: this time you didnt look at the nail xD


woah at aichan wouldnt wanna be near her when shes angry lol, cool .gif.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: MyDearYossi on April 07, 2007, 08:02:20 PM
OMG! I love the PV and MS performance.
Yossi is just so perfect :luvluv2:  :barf:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on April 07, 2007, 08:07:17 PM
The PV is the current H!P concept done almost completely right!!!

I was too busy watching the PV that I almost forgot about the song it was so hot. I don't recall any H!P PV really doing that.

The camera work and editing was the best I've seen for an H!P PV and most J-Pop PV's and really put everything together. Way better watching that, than the shitty Music Station cameras just trying to get some upskirts...

I know I sorta sound like a downer now but I would've done something different than that pink tube thing, another thing that looks like they just added so they have a different shot. But they looked hot in it so it still works XD And miki raising her leg up while in it destroyed my mind.

I loved Miki's black nails.

Yossi's death stare in the end was damn hot!

But again Takahashi gets the prize for making my head explode. She was smoldering hot throughout the whole PV.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Gblue on April 07, 2007, 08:11:10 PM
i ripped the audio (http://www.sendspace.com/file/xmeukf) from the pv :)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: century on April 07, 2007, 08:18:32 PM
Okay, I'm really surprised.

I thought the live rip, was mediocre, then hit the promo, and it got good, but itwas only a taster.

Now seeing the full thing, they are all amazing!

The song grew on me a lot more now.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Mikitty-saikou on April 07, 2007, 09:57:51 PM
Blargh.. Is it me, or is that the pv doesn't want to work on my computer? ;___;

I want to make avatars. x_X  (I hope it's not a codec or player problem, because I have everything there is to have when it comes to that. o__O)

But Whoa @ those kicks....
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: elgie on April 07, 2007, 10:03:08 PM
There's an avi version up on H!O tracker. It works fine :)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Mikitty-saikou on April 07, 2007, 10:06:35 PM
Thanks~  x_O It's just that ever since the ratio enforcement there, I've had to wait a couple of hours for new files there. @__@

I'm ganking the one of our tracker, hopefully that one works. xD
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: La Daphne on April 07, 2007, 10:17:24 PM
that...was...

oh. oh my. there are no words.

this is probably one of the best send offs a member has ever had. and the song is fabulous and the pv is just...*dead*

*wanders off to go watch again*

and those KICKS...
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on April 07, 2007, 11:30:27 PM
THE FOUR SUPREME GODDESSES

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/reyjfb/th_screencap1.jpg) (http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/reyjfb/screencap1.jpg)


Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on April 07, 2007, 11:37:00 PM
The new Dominance? XD

I guess eri and sayu are sorta like Rika's alter egos.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 08, 2007, 12:24:24 AM
My goodness!! or rather the goodness! this is an awesome pv, its been said before but the "low budget" feel to it contributes to enhancing them, and adding to the classic/ retro style that the whole thing has.... the only part about it that bugged me was during yossie's solo part the camera jumping threw off my focus but other than that its awesome! *has it on repeat*
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: genericpaperdoll on April 08, 2007, 01:44:21 AM
Oh my god, I LOVE this song and the PV! Rocking guitar always wins with me. The outfits are awesome (though wtf is with Risa's hair?) Very Roman ~My Dear Boy~ feel which is a good thing. This is absolute favorite MM song in a long time. Can't wait for the release!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Angelus on April 08, 2007, 04:20:02 AM
Is Aika wearing those recycled shoes...? :/
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Ren on April 08, 2007, 04:22:34 AM
The background seems very empty, like only white and pink. I love the pink, but the white is too bland. :lol:

But the awesome looks the girl have, interesting dance, outfits, pose etc make up for the boring background. Oh and Kamei and Shige wear clothes minier than their performance clothes :D.

And sometimes the top of the pink background stage make an appearance XD.. Why didn't they edit it?!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Ching1670 on April 08, 2007, 05:59:12 AM
I guess finally one of the low budget PV works lol
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Ren on April 08, 2007, 06:25:32 AM
Don't the sitting on the box scene reminds any of you of Melon Kinenbi - Unforgettable cover?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on April 08, 2007, 06:46:17 AM
And sometimes the top of the pink background stage make an appearance XD.. Why didn't they edit it?!

I'm pretty sure that was done on purpose, sorta gave a photo shoot set look.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: elgie on April 08, 2007, 09:39:27 PM
Kanashimi Twilight



Updated and re-done color-code! Enjoy!

May I correct them a little? :)

Quote
Yoshizawa Fujimoto Takahashi Niigaki
Kamei Michishige Tanaka Kusumi Mitsui
 
Suki ni sa se to itte
kyuu nii naku nara nai de
Dakara kuchizuke wo
Nagaku koban de tano
 
[Fu/Mic] Itsumo komame de
[Fu/Mic] Yasashiku te
[Tak/Ku] Denwa mo tsukamaru shi
[Yo/Nii/Ka/Tan/Mit] Kigatsukya dondon yurushi te ta
 
[Yo/Fu] Otoko nante nante shinjinai
[Tak/Ka] Datte datte uso bakkari
Iiwake gurai shi te mi te yo
 
[Fu/Nii] Hoka no nanka nanka otoko to wa
[Tak/Tan] Kitto kitto chigau toka
Omoikon de ta towaraito
 
Koi ni ochi te itta
Sore ga koi to mo shira zu ni
Kokoro furueteru
Namida to naru yokan
 
[Fu/Mic] Wazato wagamama itta noni
[Tak/Ku] mukae ni ki te kure ta
[Yo/Nii/Ka/Tan/Mit] suki ni naru shika nakatta mitai
 
[Yo/Fu] watashi nanka nanka yumemi te ta
[Tak/Ka] nanka nanka nobose te ta
ayamara re te mo imi ga nai
 
[Fu/Nii] itsuka kitto kitto kou naru to
[Tak/Tan] zenbu zenbu wakatte ta
kanashiki koi no towairaito
 
watashi nanka nanka yumemi te ta
nanka nanka nobose te ta
ayamara re te mo imi ga nai
 
[Fu/Nii] itsuka kitto kitto kou naru to
[Tak/Tan] zenbu zenbu wakatte ta
kanashiki koi no towairaito

:P
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Yuuyami on April 08, 2007, 11:46:47 PM
If it's too big, I'll post the thumbnail xD

(http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5838/kanashimitwilightcomicytt8.jpg)

Seriously, it was bound to happen. xD
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Kamui on April 09, 2007, 12:01:07 AM
That's freakin' hilarious. It makes the PV even better now.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 09, 2007, 12:24:35 AM
LOL, that would be fun if that were so...lol.

I poorly attempted to translate the lyrics in the lyric place if anyone is interested... but its rather quickly done and my japanese isn't good.
The fact that its a photoshoot make sense to me, but uh just by question is ai's outfit suppose to be schoolgirl-y in some way? most of the other ones I can see the school girl base but I have a hard time seeing that for her's. It makes her standout more than most by costume comparison alone (except aika does too cause her coloring is so different).

OT: Kamui you name looks familiar... were you on maplestory or another forum or something in the past? I don't know why that came up just a feeling.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Kamui on April 09, 2007, 12:55:06 AM
Yeah now that you say it it is odd Takahashi's outfit is so different, though it does sort seem kind of prep-schoolish I guess. I assumed Aika's was different just cause she's new.

Invisname: I was on maplestory for a few days once about a year and a half ago.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 09, 2007, 01:19:41 AM
I was wondering if anyone else noticed it or if it was a type of school uniform I didn't know about. aika's one I too chalked up to her being new, and yossie being the one in black as emphasis on her last run, but ai's one is kinda just out of no where for me. Its one piece unlike the rest, its solid blue, etc. Its nice to know if someone else did notice it and had an answer... or if I'm just silly.

Someone posted a link to someone who did a translation of the lyrics, yay, its in the lyrics place

Kamui: A year and a half ago seems about when I was doing stuff, I didn't play long but your name seems familiar, can't place why, could be a lot of things.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: mode107 on April 09, 2007, 01:30:53 AM
Ha, I like that drawing a lot Yuuyami. anways I like the PV, great shots of the members, just a good pv
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Koolmon93 on April 09, 2007, 05:21:37 AM
May I correct them a little? :)

:P

Did you just update the lyrics? Because the only thing I did was update the color-code. lol
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: riOtkittin on April 09, 2007, 11:09:48 AM
It's soooo nice to finally see the Momusu girls actually look cOol. I'm just a bit dissapointed in Risa's hair. It didn't work in the Namida-pv and it doesnt work in this. I blame it on the stylist.
Koharu's hair is the bestest. I love it. =D
And Ai's dress is really nice and outstanding. Yay!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: elgie on April 09, 2007, 11:13:36 AM
Did you just update the lyrics? Because the only thing I did was update the color-code. lol

Mmmmh, the lyrics of course. :P
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 10, 2007, 02:09:17 AM
I think risa's hair matches the retro feel to the pv itself, while not perfect it works well in this pv... still don't know why ai gets such a unique dress, but props to her for rocking it out well. Then again who in the pv didn't rock out their outfit well?

elgie, awesome use of yossie in that gif...lol
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Parhelion69 on April 10, 2007, 02:20:52 AM
Late posting, but I'm happy JPH!P is finally back.
My impressions on the MS performance (there are enough PV ones), every girl looks really hot.

Takkity was flawless (and the hottest one IMO, thanks to that blessed polo, and wonderful legs), I noticed Aika's back has a really nice form, around 00:37. Yossie was certainly the main focus, and she pwned. Sayumi was beyond beautiful, as always (and lost a little weight, since Egao yes nude). I was specially surprised by Risa's legs, she was always thin, but here she's got some really gorgeous legs, she must've worked hard. Love her hair extensions as well, she's just so pretty. I could go on and tell how beautiful and hot they were, but you already know that.  ;D

I hope we get lots of performances, EYN had too few and with haromoni not having lives (that totally sucks), performances are gonna be scarce.

And I'm so glad they wear something under those skirts :D.
Actually I'd have loved them having white panties underneath  :jerkoff:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: miki on April 10, 2007, 07:35:18 AM
lol.
i love the song. reina really did the punk with the hair and the earings(i :heart:her earings)
michii is so cute.frankly, i didnt notice koha at all.
my bad  :P

the ms perf is good xDxDxD the miki kicking part..hell yea  :D :heart:
sxc
headbanging makes my neck hurt   ;D


kanashimiiii !!! <33
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tiny on April 11, 2007, 09:15:05 AM
It is sort of predictable: there wont be a SingleV DVD for this single. Instead the PV, alternate and making of will be on the Single M Clips DVD released May 2nd.

See Wiki.ThePPN: http://wiki.theppn.org/Eizou_The_Morning_Musume_4_%7ESingle_M_Clips%7E
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: cool_kickin_dude on April 11, 2007, 06:27:12 PM
just saw the PV finally and LOVED it! Perfect how Yossie got the last lyrics for the song. Just wish I had the costume, lol
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: kingthaking81 on April 11, 2007, 08:09:50 PM
It is sort of predictable: there wont be a SingleV DVD for this single. Instead the PV, alternate and making of will be on the Single M Clips DVD released May 2nd.

See Wiki.ThePPN: http://wiki.theppn.org/Eizou_The_Morning_Musume_4_%7ESingle_M_Clips%7E

great tracklist ! makes it must buy!
a new PV even!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: jafeijai on April 11, 2007, 11:10:54 PM
Blargh.. Is it me, or is that the pv doesn't want to work on my computer? ;___;

I want to make avatars. x_X  (I hope it's not a codec or player problem, because I have everything there is to have when it comes to that. o__O)

But Whoa @ those kicks....
There's an avi version up on H!O tracker. It works fine :)

I'm unable to watch the PV either >_< Damn my inability to torrent as well..Anyone willing to up the avi version elsewhere? Thanks in advance. :)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on April 11, 2007, 11:34:47 PM
I'm unable to watch the PV either >_< Damn my inability to torrent as well..Anyone willing to up the avi version elsewhere? Thanks in advance. :)

Here you go http://www.sendspace.com/file/ilykgm
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: cephiro on April 12, 2007, 05:35:24 AM
i just watched the pv and i love it
the new songs catchy and its definitely better than the last 2 singles
keep it going girls !
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: cool_kickin_dude on April 12, 2007, 01:47:21 PM
since the A-hole won't be up for a little while longer, is there any way I can ask for the song, not the PV?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: babydoll on April 12, 2007, 01:51:35 PM
If it's too big, I'll post the thumbnail xD

(http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5838/kanashimitwilightcomicytt8.jpg)

Seriously, it was bound to happen. xD

LOO. I love the cartoon XD. Makes me wanna laugh or there was a bloper of that in the making XD.

But the single is awsome. To bad Mako wasn't in it  :(. It would have been cool. But it is cool enough.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: nox_xie on April 13, 2007, 06:11:51 AM
LOO. I love the cartoon XD. Makes me wanna laugh or there was a bloper of that in the making XD.

But the single is awsome. To bad Mako wasn't in it  :(. It would have been cool. But it is cool enough.

haha.. thats fun.. i'm really love their new song.. very attractive attire.. really love tanaka's school uniform..
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 13, 2007, 09:05:26 AM
I hope they get to do more live performances for it...but with the concert do they have the time?... what other shows could they do it on though? I mean they could still do utaban right?...I'd like to see them on another show doing it and talking about it... utaban is just the only one i know where they get to have fun too.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tiny on April 13, 2007, 10:27:26 AM
^ Morning Musume will appear on Music Fighter on Friday the 20th.

Other shows may be announced later, it's still 11 days until the release of the single.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ferrar1 on April 13, 2007, 03:31:20 PM
^ You mean they'll appear again?

i thought they just went over for a Kanashimi Twilight performance recently?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Yasu on April 13, 2007, 03:42:37 PM
^ You mean they'll appear again?

i thought they just went over for a Kanashimi Twilight performance recently?

That was Music Station.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Slack on April 13, 2007, 03:43:53 PM
To avoid further confusion, Music Fighter is the one with comedy duo King Kong and Aoki Sayaka.  Music Station is the one with Tamori.

(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7293/snapshot20070413084010th8.jpg)
Music Station

(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8904/imagedo7.jpg)
Music Fighter
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: burichu on April 14, 2007, 05:06:58 AM
since the A-hole won't be up for a little while longer, is there any way I can ask for the song, not the PV?


I second this....
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Sukoshi on April 14, 2007, 06:23:38 AM
Erm keep in mind the single of the song isn't out until the 25th but anywhoo Kanashimi Twilight PV rip (http://www.sendspace.com/file/00zjhw)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ferrar1 on April 14, 2007, 08:33:52 AM
That was Music Station.

doopp *smack head ala homer simpson*

lol failed to notice the difference at the back
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: polidread on April 14, 2007, 10:58:54 AM
sorry if youve seen this one before, but im just so happy today...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Kaye-Oh/hobbies/uberwerks/yosh001copy.jpg)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tiny on April 14, 2007, 12:08:16 PM
Nice drawing :) You made it with a tablet?

Only the text is a bit strange, "Miki of the skirt" :P
I think you meant 美貴 の skirt (Miki's skirt).  8)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: polidread on April 14, 2007, 12:38:17 PM
wuh, thanks for the correction, i had a hunch it was was wrong, it's been bothering me since this morning when i finished the drawing. :P


(i penned it on paper and colored on photoshop with a mouse)
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Post by: Pantoufle on April 15, 2007, 05:30:51 PM
very cute drawing, polidread! :D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Koolmon93 on April 15, 2007, 09:08:20 PM
The Haromoni@ perf was pretty good. It was expected, but not. lol. They skipped Yossi's part for the second verse which is always nice too!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: shirenuファクトリー on April 15, 2007, 09:10:22 PM
Oh man... The Hello Morning perf... You know it was awesome otherwise but did they really have to put one of the laziest dancers next to the painfully obviously best dancer ROFL??

Just to save my butt, I love Miki and I think she's sexy, but these caps should speak for themselves...

First time bowing down:
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k165/shirenu/dance01.jpg)

The head shake move:
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k165/shirenu/dance02.jpg)

Looking up in the ceiling:
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k165/shirenu/dance04.jpg)
Maybe they were not told to specifically arch their backs, but Aichan does it anyway. It's like she dun need to be told...

Second time bowing down, notice Aika trying her best:
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k165/shirenu/dance05.jpg)

Last time bowing down:
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k165/shirenu/dance06.jpg)

I don't mean to diss Miki in any way cuz I really do like her, but damn! There are other bad dancers in MM but at least they put some energy in their dancing and try their best!! Miki's lazy dancing has annoyed me in the past in concert DVDs but she should at least sharpen up her dance for when they advertise their single on TV perfs!! I dunno if I'm the only one but it really eats up my enjoyment of the perf is someone is giving like a half-assed idon'tcare attitude... Ok I know people are going to get mad at me because Miki can get away with anything, but I just couldn't hold it in anymore... :P
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: shindoushiz on April 15, 2007, 09:49:05 PM
It could be that Miki's lack of dancing(especially these moves) has to do with her proclaimed bad back?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: JFC on April 15, 2007, 10:05:01 PM
Don't forget that Aichan trained in ballet for years before joining MM, so her skills would just be on a different level compared to Miki-sama.

*runz away*
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: DroolBoy on April 15, 2007, 10:50:10 PM
I wonder if Miki's ever been on the receiving end of.. yeah.. :O
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 15, 2007, 11:44:32 PM
They probably all got their own little variations running through out the performance... miki just happens to not like bending I guess... if you want to point out things that are a little interesting, as a bit of flavor it seems that during her and ai's line together koharu likes to shake/wave her hips more than ai does to the rhythm... hmm the dance version of the song is probably gonna be a thing for people who like finding little things then... to see how it matches up... since it seems that eri and sayu are more comfortable in their larger shirts than the pv one when performing live...lol.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on April 16, 2007, 12:36:46 AM
lol @ the miki defending... She's lazy when she dances, she knows it, I know it, you know it, we all know it. I've noticed her lazy movements on Kanashimi Twilight since the MS perf. I know Miki isn't that great of a dancer in the first place, but I know she can try harder. She might not exactly know that she looks that bad when she's performing (I know from experience >_>) because people probably don't point it out to her or are afraid too in the case of the other members. lol  You don't really see Miki having great relationships with most of her sempai either, and she even admitted to often butting heads with Rika(but she did admit to having a lot of respect for her :P). Her lazy movements could be a reason for this.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: leonheartx on April 16, 2007, 02:51:49 AM
I don't think it's Miki being lazy, it's probably just more comfortable for her so she's sticking to it. It's not a big deal anyway xD

On another note, I preordered the limited edition B and cant wait to get it in the mail  :heart: :heart:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Parhelion69 on April 16, 2007, 03:56:58 AM
Great pics Shirenu, you made your point and I agree about Miki being lazy. She's a great singer, but usually lacks at dancing, maybe it's that supposed back problem, I really hope it isn't.

I noticed her not-so-great dancing since Girl Koi no Victory, she was in the front and she was lacking in that area. I also think she should improve her dancing, specially since she's almost always in the front, and as someone noted, being next to Takkity (MM's and probably H!P's best dancer) just makes it more noticeable.

Also, Aika has trouble in the head shake move, she does it even worse than mikitty, and Koharu also underperforms there. Maybe other girls could've have done that dancing better, but since they have fixed positions, they had no other choice (reina is a fine dancer for example)

After watching both performances several times, I can see takkity's control over her whole body is impressive, I can only think of Rika having the same skill (both of em have great butts...   ::) maybe that's the reason  ;D ). I will make some gifs later (I'm a premiere noob, so don't except anything great :P )


Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on April 16, 2007, 04:43:38 AM
I don't think it's Miki being lazy, it's probably just more comfortable for her so she's sticking to it. It's not a big deal anyway xD



aka being lazy... XD
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BakHamNoi on April 16, 2007, 06:21:49 AM
well, if y'all want to enjoy every perfs, just only look at Aic-chan like i do  :D :D :D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ferrar1 on April 16, 2007, 06:49:28 AM
If that's really the case, then probably Tsunku would/should be the 1st person to tell Miki in the face.

Based on what i've seen thru all these years, Miki is not lazy. Most of the time she just lacks the motivation to perform. When you see the occassions that she's motivated, she works her socks off.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on April 16, 2007, 07:28:38 AM
yeah, she does when she wants to. But when you compare that to the effort the other members put into their performances, is it really okay?

You all have to know how much I love Miki, but the girl lacks discipline.

Okay I'm done with this :P


Anyways, just watched the H!M@ perf. Instead of the Yossi dominating it like on MS and the PV, felt it was more focused on Miki and Ai. Not really good nor bad, just an intersting observation I guess.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Nouciel on April 16, 2007, 07:54:44 AM
It seems that Miki does things mid-heartly with MM, to me. She looks waaay more comfortable when she's performing/singing on her own, or with little kids XD. Maybe when she becomes leader, she'll try to discipline herself more.

Besides Miki's laziness (XD), the perf. was great. Hopefully not the last Kanashimi Twilight perf. ;D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Estrea on April 16, 2007, 07:55:22 AM
Haha I was wondering whether anyone else noticed, but I guess everyone did. XD

The H!M@ performance felt a lot different from the Music Station one. Maybe it's the camera work. Heh. As SITS said, it didn't seem to focus as much on Yossi. Hmmm. Oh and Miki just looks damn bored during the whole thing. Even her smiles were on and off. She just looked like she wanted to get it over with. XD I wonder what's bothering her....hahah.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ferrar1 on April 16, 2007, 09:04:03 AM
^ She's probably still mad that Aya managed to escape her clutches and went back to her boat XD j/k

well i agree that 90% of the time she lacks commitment and appear to be lazy, but unless somebody shove some logic and sense to her ass, she'll stay that way.

But then again, i wouldn't want to see a hyper active or hardworking Miki, it's just not Miki anymore. So it boils down to everyone's preference IMO.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Blu-Cherri on April 16, 2007, 02:50:47 PM
She did say on radio that she finds it increasingly harder to do the dancing.
She said it was difficult to perform boogie train(referring to the WHL concert)  So maybe she has something like a back problem that people mentioned or she tires easily...who knows?
I think that's why her solo's are often done with H!PK these days too.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Parhelion69 on April 16, 2007, 03:30:39 PM
She did say on radio that she finds it increasingly harder to do the dancing.
She said it was difficult to perform boogie train(referring to the WHL concert)  So maybe she has something like a back problem that people mentioned or she tires easily...who knows?
I think that's why her solo's are often done with H!PK these days too.
Damn, that's not good to hear... :(
I hope she can get better, but they're already addressing the problem for sure, I hope it's something that can be cured soon. Get well mikitty!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 17, 2007, 01:40:56 AM
Well didn't she or someone make comment about her having a hard time dancing because of her age when they were doing ribbon no kishi promotions... I have a vague memory of that when they did the hold up the sign thing... maybe that was something else. Either way I guess its a bad thing over all, but what member hasn't had moments of disconnection or minor problems over time... I still like pointing out how sayumi is always mouthing the words to songs even when she never sings that part.... but I guess cause honestly I think thats cute.

Either way we got music fighter coming up right? Let's see what happens there!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BakHamNoi on April 17, 2007, 06:43:39 AM
lol...... Miki is only on her 20s, she's young, she's fresh and she's just a lazy girl . She just don't want to make more effort than the others, that's all.
So if she has some problems with her back at 21.....poor girl.

(P.S : i like Miki but no need to try to find some excuses about her lazyness)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BX_LeMans on April 17, 2007, 10:55:29 AM
The H!M perf has too less Risa :-\
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tempethegreat on April 17, 2007, 02:07:48 PM
this is a good song.....
morning musume members look different in this song..........
i like it....
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Tyball on April 17, 2007, 05:35:46 PM
This is one of their best singles recently IMO.  ;D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Parhelion69 on April 17, 2007, 08:48:57 PM
The H!M perf has too less Risa :-\
I noticed the exact same thing, MS showed us how pretty (and hot) risa is, she didn't have much camera time on Haromoni!  :scolding:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: jafeijai on April 17, 2007, 11:25:24 PM
I noticed the exact same thing, MS showed us how pretty (and hot) risa is, she didn't have much camera time on Haromoni!  :scolding:
The song's choreography doesn't focus on Risa in the first place, so it's somewhat expected...though I have to agree; Risa needs more camera time when it comes to performances..
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 18, 2007, 03:12:47 AM
Hehe... they all look good so I can understand why wanting to see more of them though...lol

Hmm now that I think about it was there ever a song from a single that has risa in a heavy part? *thinking* I'm still not a momusu expert but I can't think of one off the top of my head.

They seem to love giving Aika her appearance time though thats for sure... so far she's been getting solo lines easy...lol. Wonder if Junjun and Linlin will be so lucky...lol
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Koolmon93 on April 18, 2007, 03:22:06 AM
Umm, Risa got lead in Egao YES Nude! Other than that, it's been one-liners and album/b-side songs.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 18, 2007, 03:48:58 AM
Hmm thats true she actually does have more lines in egao yes nude doesn't she?... well sorta... I see egao as an everyone song... cause they all get single lines here and there... but risa is more front line then.

Hmm thats it then, they need a song for her!...lol, wait thats not the place to say this...lol
(though while I'm off topic I wouldn't mind one for sayumi like namida tomaranai houkago)...lol

Anyways... if I had to point out one thing that I didn't like about the haromoni performance... now that i've watched that a lot too... is that the double camera thing threw me off at first... I realize it was to show double the yossie but the timing for it was weird cause you could see like the side of the other person in the camera when it was the two people... or perhaps it was just me?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: jimmydotnet on April 18, 2007, 05:54:38 AM
wow sexy!!! ;D but i think the song to cheap..its kinda boring...momusu's new song dun impress me...really disapointing.. :(
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Blu-Cherri on April 18, 2007, 10:10:41 AM
Hmm thats true she actually does have more lines in egao yes nude doesn't she?... well sorta... I see egao as an everyone song... cause they all get single lines here and there... but risa is more front line then.
Actually Ryu her and Ai(not counting the oohs~ and aahs~ Ai does) Gaki and Ai have the most lines ^^
Made lots people happy but it did do something good, cuz in this song she had the same as Reina woo~

dammit there's no more limited editions etc left, I totally forgot to preorder this xD my first none special momusu single T__T
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Rick-e on April 18, 2007, 04:48:59 PM
I'm looking forward to the single ^_^ The song is kind of catchy, maybe even exceeding Egao Yes Nude.

oh and Blu-Cherri, Yesasia still have the Limited editions for preorder! you haven't ordered the normal version yet, have you?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Blu-Cherri on April 18, 2007, 05:00:28 PM
No I haven't and thanks, I might order it then...but I try to avoid yesasia cuz it doesn't count in the oricon chart.
eeh i dunno which to chose T_T I guess I'll just have to support without helping in the charts.
What's on the dvd, I was away for two weeks, which is why im behind on ordering >.<
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tiny on April 18, 2007, 05:17:50 PM
According to CDJapan:
Quote from: CDJapan
Limited edition includes bonus DVD with an alternate edit of the single music video, comments from Mroning Musume, and a serial-numbered card.

I ordered both limited edition versions from YesAsia, because neither CDJapan or Amazon had both versions available anymore. I'm getting both versions because of the 40 page booklet and the bonus DVD of course.

--

And at the time I write this the PV should have aired on MUSIC ON! TV (http://www.m-on.jp/regular/detail161.html)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Rick-e on April 18, 2007, 06:16:17 PM
So if I buy from Yesasia it won't affect the oricon chart? wow, I just knew that O_o
I myself am getting the one with the booklet, because the DVD I can just download :p
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Blu-Cherri on April 18, 2007, 10:13:59 PM
^ I ordered the DVD cuz last time i ordered booklet and before that I ordered DVD.
I like to not always get the same thing each time ;)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 19, 2007, 05:23:33 AM
Seems like YesAsia is your only bet... I checked a couple places to no good.

I wonder how awesome that booklet is.....

Well thank you blu, I didn't realize that it was mostly Risa and Ai... I thought it was equal Risa, Ai, Yossie, Miki, with Aika getting back with her 4 lines or so and Reina/Koharu and Sayumi/Eri doing the rest.... I guess I need to watch Egao Yes Nude performances more.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Blu-Cherri on April 19, 2007, 07:34:04 AM
^lol tis ok it seems like yossi, miki, ai and risa get the same but they always get the lines at the end of the chorus(+aika) and there was another point but i can't remember

anyway yes I've order from yesasia...at least I get free shipping lol!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: cynee on April 19, 2007, 08:46:12 AM
i wish i can get the version with the booklet as well! i ordered from CDJapan and they only had the dvd version left when i pre-ordered, so i got that version only  :( . hope to see the booklet online! judging from the PV, the pics must be gorgeous  :-*
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tiny on April 19, 2007, 10:32:52 AM
The PV is available for download at the Jpopsuki and Hello!Online trackers.

JPH!P members with access to The Asshole/The Official JPHiP Archives can find a direct download link in this thread (http://forum.jphip.com/index.php?topic=7805.0).

You don't have access to The Asshole? Read here (http://forum.jphip.com/index.php?topic=10521.0) how to get it. It is really simple :)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 19, 2007, 10:37:01 AM
Is any of those better than the version of the pv we got a week or so ago from dohh up I think it was? Watching the pv so much I doubt that te quality will matter much to me... but its nice to know ho much is available.

There was a point blu?...lol. I was tring to find a place that risa could call her own that was a single... I guess it tends to be that she gets good b/track or album songs though.... <3 her singing koe solo.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Reanimation on April 19, 2007, 10:59:38 PM
c/w Hand Made City
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jz5s9z
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Cookie on April 19, 2007, 11:38:52 PM
^ That song is awesomeee! I like it much more than Kanashimi.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: TydusArandor on April 20, 2007, 12:08:06 AM
Thanks for the link! Seems to be pretty good and it's a nice happy song  :D I'm not sure, but I think I hear the electric guitars here too? I don't know, I'm not good with instruments x_X
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: jompuan on April 20, 2007, 02:04:26 AM
c/w Hand Made City
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jz5s9z

thank you O0 :heart:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: mr.niigaki on April 20, 2007, 02:09:41 AM
c/w Hand Made City
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jz5s9z


Thanks so much!!!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: cege2006 on April 20, 2007, 02:47:24 AM
I like the song overall and the pv make it so much better. Ai's outfit is love....period :).
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on April 20, 2007, 02:57:50 AM
Hand Made City sounds great!!!! Man I'm glad I'm getting this single  ;D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Nouciel on April 20, 2007, 02:59:02 AM
Great song! I must say I'm impressed :o MM b-sides have been amazing lately XD
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Takatity on April 20, 2007, 04:04:25 AM
c/w Hand Made City
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jz5s9z

Great !!!! thank you
Nice song
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 20, 2007, 04:24:01 AM
Ya when I heard part of it before I thought wow this is nice and complementing Kanashimi Twilight rather well.... Both have the retro feeling to it but its got its own flow and beat to it thats awesome. It seems more upbeat and cheerful than Kanashimi Twilight toooo, now I'm back to sitting around waiting for a translation or at least a capture of lyrics to try to translate myself to understand. Yay for anyone who is able to buy it!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: imjussakidd on April 20, 2007, 05:10:14 AM
Ai's outfit is love....period :).
I must agree! The pink background is really bright...... :D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Rick-e on April 20, 2007, 10:18:19 AM
aaagh! the temptation to download the b-side is overwhelming! gotta be patient... gotta wait for the actual release xD
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Stryfe on April 20, 2007, 10:33:47 AM
Thanks for the b-side, Reanimation.

The arrangement has its moments, but as a whole, the song doesn't quite work. The verses are meh, and once the chorus starts, I get a "did the song just change and I didn't notice?" feeling. This stuff should work well live though, and it's a pretty obvious wota-pleasing tour fodder song.

Some of the vocal bits are a major gripe as well. *gags Sayu 100 times lovingly*

Still, I'm taking an odd liking to parts of this song, mainly the intro bit. Despite Tsunku and the kiddy quire.

川* ’  ー ’  )< Breakin' Down!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ~Dan~ on April 20, 2007, 04:03:22 PM
^ That song is awesomeee! I like it much more than Kanashimi.
I just heard the song in a radio show.  I agree, I like it so much better than Kanashimi Twilight.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: SomethingWild on April 20, 2007, 04:36:15 PM
the B side is ok, but the A side destroys it imo  :)

btw.. cdjapan says out of print.. but they mean it's not on sale yet right? Or is it sold out already?!?  I'm talking about the A cover with DVD version..
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ebc on April 20, 2007, 04:38:10 PM
Here's an xvid of the PV from M-ON

(http://www.eyeballcancer.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_thumbs20070421003506.jpg) (http://www.eyeballcancer.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumbs20070421003506.jpg)

Download (http://www.eyeballcancer.com/rika/PV/(PV)%20Morning%20Musume%20Kanashimi%20Twilight%20M-ON!%20(Xvid%20640x480).avi) 80mb
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Post by: Blu-Cherri on April 20, 2007, 04:46:32 PM
the B side is ok, but the A side destroys it imo  :)

btw.. cdjapan says out of print.. but they mean it's not on sale yet right? Or is it sold out already?!?  I'm talking about the A cover with DVD version..

It means it is sold out already. I found this same problem, posted about it here and debated with myseld.  Eventually I decided to buy it from yesasia just because there was no way I wasn't getting a LMT edition of Yossi's final single and I loe the song so... ^^
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ferrar1 on April 20, 2007, 05:28:30 PM
after listening to the song while surfing the forums, all i can say is, it's like a Miki single XD

maybe i have to pay attention while listening but i don't think it will make it into my favourite B-sides.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: SomethingWild on April 20, 2007, 06:01:19 PM
It means it is sold out already. I found this same problem, posted about it here and debated with myseld.  Eventually I decided to buy it from yesasia just because there was no way I wasn't getting a LMT edition of Yossi's final single and I loe the song so... ^^

D'oh! Ok, looks like it'll be yesasia for me too..

Thanks EBC for the vid!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Parhelion69 on April 20, 2007, 08:40:16 PM
I like hand made city, it's a nice song, but I guess I didn't like some parts as others did, like Risa's atsui atsui yoru da ne, which I think it was an overhyped line :P It should've been sung sexy, she yells instead, which isn't as good...

And as great as it is, kanashimi twilight just wipes the floor with it, that's why it's the A side single.

Damn I'm surprised with the streak of great singles momosu is delivering, tsunku is on a roll! After EYN I thought there's no f*cking way they're even reaching its level... guess I was wrong, since it's just as good if not better than EYN. I wonder what will happen with the next singles... hope we keep getting surprised with good singles (and raise the PV budget a bit please!  ;D)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Funet on April 20, 2007, 10:00:59 PM
Thanks ebc for the PV! O0


I just find somethin interesting while surfing all around. ;D

Look like momusu will be on Utaban (05/03) ! :heart:
this gonna be the last utaban show for yossie with momusu..
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on April 20, 2007, 10:03:24 PM
lol the b-side is pretty lame, but it's better than just about every momusu b-side in the past year or 2 so no real complaints. It's probably better than pretty much every album song on their last album.

As stryfe said, it's obviously for the wota.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: dat on April 20, 2007, 10:15:58 PM
wow i cant believe , the B side was even better than  Kanashimi Twilight  :O
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: RionZ on April 20, 2007, 10:17:36 PM
Hand Made City ain't the best B-side, but it compliments the A-side really well, and makes for an overall solid single.

Glad I ordered all 3 versions >_>
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: mr.niigaki on April 21, 2007, 02:38:04 AM
The b-side was okay, I had problems with the male/kids area of the song just seemed off.

And thanks ebc for the PV! :D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 21, 2007, 06:48:08 AM
I don't think the c/w track is better than Kanashimi Twilight but it works with it rather well, giving it a nice balanced single track.
How is the M-ON file in comparison to ones on here before?... I was a bit confused on how it compares to the one before.

Anyways, Music Fighter performance was similar to the other ones and yet gave everyone their own little batch of screen time which was nice! They did it slightly different (at least ai did as she didn't sound like low sounding), still holds for me that this single is gonna be absolutely enjoyable!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Miwa ♥ on April 21, 2007, 07:37:01 AM
Here's an xvid of the PV from M-ON

(http://www.eyeballcancer.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_thumbs20070421003506.jpg) (http://www.eyeballcancer.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumbs20070421003506.jpg)

Download (http://www.eyeballcancer.com/rika/PV/(PV)%20Morning%20Musume%20Kanashimi%20Twilight%20M-ON!%20(Xvid%20640x480).avi) 80mb

Thanks for the pv! xD

Anyway, I loved the c/w song better somehow. It sounds really great. Can't wait to hear the better version!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on April 21, 2007, 07:48:25 AM
The Music Fighter performance was good, there's something in it that makes me like it more than previous performances, but I'm not sure what it is.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 21, 2007, 08:19:02 AM
hmm well you should like the nice use of close ups and zoom outs, I think that was nice, almost everyone got a moment of solo spot like and pair spot light (yossie got more solo cause she's the point in the song but ya everyone else I mean). What else... some people might have liked ai's singing better this time... actually did eri get a focus shot?... *shock* she didn't .... poor her... well she gets two pair shots and an almost focus shot during the dance.

I really love Yossie's solo chorus.... the lines and the way she says them just added it up... looking off and singing that part and then staring in with how your apologies have no meaning...its like... woooooo...
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Parhelion69 on April 21, 2007, 04:51:02 PM
The Music Fighter performance was good, there's something in it that makes me like it more than previous performances, but I'm not sure what it is.
Maybe cause of more sayumin camera love?  :p



Anyway I liked the performance, though it doesn't have good camera movements and framing like the MS and haromoni ones, some of the girls are constantly hidden behind the others. Also, there are too many face close ups, they should've been a little farther, like on previous performances. On the head swirling move, they didn't focuse on Takkity, they did on Koharu instead (terrible decision, she barely does the move), takkity moves her whole body and head in an excellent manner on that dance.

On the good side, the 1440x1080 TS file has much better quality than previous performances (the MS was a pixellated hell). Also the camera is steady now, the MS one moved way too much vertically (bad camera support? ) when strafing sideways.

Takkity used high heels again! (on the haromoni she used low ones), Aika got little camera time, Risa regained some of it, less time on mikkity as well (not a bad thing  ::) ). I also noted that in the song interlude when the girls start walking towards the camera, reina, sayumi and other girls used different gestures than on previous performances, which is a nice touch. (I loved Reina's one on the haromoni performance, using a lip gesture, very cute.)

Utaban has the best camera using in japan's music shows (something my friend, who is a cinematographer, noted) so we'll surely get an interesting performance on it (utaban's EYN was the best performance of that single as well).

Do we have a date for music japan? and any other music show?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: hibachifinal on April 21, 2007, 05:00:55 PM
music japan would be next friday's
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tiny on April 21, 2007, 05:47:37 PM
Television appearances (from centuryland.jp):

23(月) 24:59~25:54 よみうりテレビ「音楽戦士 MUSIC FIGHTER」モーニング娘。 (It doens't say repeat, so perhaps a talk?)
27(金) 24:40~25:10 NHK総合「MUSIC JAPAN」モーニング娘。

--

Kanashimi Twilight is ranked 6th in the Oricon NINKI survey. There is some strong competition for the charts next week. KinKi Kids will most likely take the top spot. Orange Range and BoA also have new singles out.
You can take a look at the survey ranking here: http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ns/w/
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 21, 2007, 06:44:01 PM
Well hopefully the japanese people are going to stores to buy KT when it comes out cause the internet is in awe at the sheer number of people me thinks... I mean egao yes nude still has limiteds at certain stores but almost everywhere I could find online seemed to not have any anymore...well besides yesasia... That means the out of japan-ders have done all they can to help the cause... its really up to the Japanese people.

I liked Fighter performance more than Station... the shake camera on Station really didn't do it for me, and this time the time is spread out more to which I like. I think its good to give people a fair amount of time cause they are all so lovely... though the koharu doing the head thing made me think they almost forgot her and stuck her in at the last minute...lol.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: SomethingWild on April 22, 2007, 02:42:58 PM
*ordered it*  ;D This is actually going to be my first MM single  :o
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: almond on April 22, 2007, 05:35:01 PM
Regardless of the ranking, I hope it sells very well. They have some very tough competition this week.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: TydusArandor on April 23, 2007, 07:18:05 AM
Found these:

From the Limited B Booklet:
(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1184/kanatowalimitedbwh3.th.jpg) (http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kanatowalimitedbwh3.jpg)

I don't know what this is o_O Some DVD included with the CD?
Edit: Don't know why I didn't think of this earlier but it must be the DVD in Limited A <_<

(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6951/aiyosfq9.jpg)
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6050/aiyos2ok4.jpg)


Lol, Ai-chan and Yossie look like a pair of brothers or something.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 23, 2007, 08:56:28 AM
Oh my I love it! I mean those pictures of yossie with them all, they really are bonded well sense they've been together... I can't imagine how sad they'll be once she graduates... I mean sure they'll still see her but... T_T I think I want to cry already. Yossie, going out with an awesome single, what a way to go!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: freakz on April 23, 2007, 02:29:51 PM
woww.... nioce pics..
and thanks for the PV.....
now, i really like kanashimi twilight.... more energetic........
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: metoice on April 23, 2007, 03:06:09 PM
(http://galleries.jphip.net/hellopro/albums/userpics/10003/hii0204.jpg)

 :shy2: :shy2: :shy2: :shy2: :shy2::shy2: :shy2: :shy2:

 :nya: :nya: :nya: :nya: :nya: :nya: :nya: :nya: :nya:

 :imdead:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: anythursday on April 23, 2007, 04:10:16 PM
awwwwwwwwww AIKA!!!  :heart: come on, she's just too adorable.

lol on the other hand, ai and yossie look like lovers. lol
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Rick-e on April 23, 2007, 05:18:46 PM
Is that really from the booklet!? now I really can't wait for my copy to come :heart:

I love pictures where they bond like these, and especially since this is Yossie's last single so that makes it kinda special :)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: RionZ on April 23, 2007, 06:01:37 PM
I posted the single in the Asshole, go get it guys :)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: JFC on April 23, 2007, 07:19:05 PM
^ First thing I'm gonna do when I get home. Thanks dude. :D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Jay on April 24, 2007, 04:51:19 AM
Does anyone have the PV converted into the PSP format?
My PSPVideo isn't working atm I don't know what's wrong with it.
Thanks and sorry to bother you。^^
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: jompuan on April 24, 2007, 05:45:31 AM
Quote from: lovemusic@JPM
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Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: hibachifinal on April 24, 2007, 06:36:26 AM
(http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3007/484840yz5.th.jpg) (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=484840yz5.jpg)

they should really make this into a poster.. or something
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 24, 2007, 07:12:28 AM
O.O, thats the booklet? Can't wait to see it for myself! I wouldn't be surprised if posters or official pictures of matching quality show up soon. Can't Wait! :wriggly:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: nox_xie on April 24, 2007, 11:35:18 AM
whaa.. i also wanna buy the single.. where can i get it in malaysia? can someone guide me.. i want it becoz of the good quality booklet..
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ferrar1 on April 24, 2007, 12:16:46 PM
Online thru CD japan or Yesasia would be a faster way
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Secchi on April 24, 2007, 07:02:37 PM
does anybody knows something about the next single?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: len.chan on April 24, 2007, 07:42:27 PM
seeing the covers I almost regret that I preordered the limited B.. but with that booklet.. god.. I can't wait to have it in my hands
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on April 24, 2007, 09:57:10 PM
Wow the booklet looks pretty nice. Still don't think it's worth the price and cover lol
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: marqual on April 25, 2007, 02:02:06 AM
Kanashimi Twilight rocks!! Ai-chan and Mikitty ftw !!! and Ai-chan give me a fatal nosebleed   ;)  (http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6853/aikickwu3.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aikickwu3.jpg)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: nox_xie on April 25, 2007, 03:55:20 AM
Online thru CD japan or Yesasia would be a faster way
me got no credit card.. so how to pay?

Kanashimi Twilight rocks!! Ai-chan and Mikitty ftw !!! and Ai-chan give me a fatal nosebleed   ;)  (http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6853/aikickwu3.th.jpg) (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aikickwu3.jpg)


woo.. nose bleed.. soft and yumy..  :heart:

Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: redux on April 25, 2007, 04:13:08 AM
It's grown on me alerady I have to say, I wasn't sure what to think at first though I knew I didn't dislike it. Starting to really like it now, wary of over playing it though.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 25, 2007, 04:55:55 AM
hehe I'm already at 100+ and still listening...lol. Though I haven't done it nearly as much with hand made city cause it came out online later and doesn't have a pv.

if you want to pay get someone to do it for you and pay them back... my mom is a life saver for online shopping, I always owe her money as a result ... that includes for this :hee:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on April 25, 2007, 05:09:04 AM
this is really a good song.  hopefully the sales are doing good.  it deserves probably around 60k or more don cha think?  who knows maybe be even 100k.  wonder how it'll do on it first week charting.  they'll have no problem being in the top 10, but i don't know if they'll make it to the 3 since with the strong competition from artists such as BoA, orange range, kinki kids among others.  Hopefully they'll be in the top 5, keeping up that milestones since their debut.  GOOD LUCK, MORNING MUSUME!!! GANBARE!!!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Rick-e on April 25, 2007, 05:14:36 AM
@nox_xie
can you borrow your friend's or parent's credit card?

@marqual
xD same here! I wen't "whoa! ai-chan O_o"

hopefully mine will come by the 30th... can't wait.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: koori on April 25, 2007, 07:43:24 AM
i love the booklet of limited B
aichan's pose is so sexy!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tiny on April 25, 2007, 10:27:31 AM
Kanashimi Twilight debuts at #2 in the daily Oricon chart!

On the first day in the charts Morning Musume beats Orange Range and BoA among others. Only KinKi Kids ranks better, as expected (all KinKi Kids singles have reached the first place in the Oricon charts).
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 25, 2007, 10:33:04 AM
WOOO! congrats to Momusu for beating out Orange Range and BoA and anyone else who we were worried about! no doubt its hard to beat Kinki Kids, but they've done great against everyone else for the first day!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: cynee on April 25, 2007, 11:48:44 AM
wow it's great news that they are doing well on the chart! it's such a nice song, definitely deserves it!  :heart:
i hope it will do well for the next few days so that we can have a high weekly ranking  :D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: redux on April 25, 2007, 11:51:19 AM
Good to hear that they've still got it when it comes to the charts, I was a little worried about what would happen to this one, I love the direction the single's taken and I hope they develop on this but I was sure if the Japanese public would agree with me.

hehe I'm already at 100+ and still listening...lol. Though I haven't done it nearly as much with hand made city cause it came out online later and doesn't have a pv.

100+ ??? U crazy.

According to itunes I've listened to it 5 times, it's probably a couple more but I think I'd have slit my wrists by now if I'd heard it more than 100 times.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: nox_xie on April 25, 2007, 12:34:21 PM
lol.. 100+ its normal man.. even i also sometimes play@loop any latest song that i dl.. sometimes.. for most of the song, i search the lyric then i can remember them as i sang along.. haha..
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on April 25, 2007, 02:27:31 PM
Glad to hear it, debuting on #2 spot in just the first day, up against big artists such as them is a great feat. Hope they can ride the momentum and ranked within the top 3 on the first week.  GO KANASHIMI TWILIGHT!!! GANBARE MORNING MUSUME!!!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Rick-e on April 25, 2007, 02:46:56 PM
number 2! they beat boa and orange range? that's great!
Hope the sales will go high :) they deserve it :D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: SomethingWild on April 25, 2007, 04:27:44 PM
I don't get why kinki kids is so popular.. they also beat akagumi 4 at the time.. anyway, #2 is great! And I feel extra good about it, because this time I actually bought it haha.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: redux on April 25, 2007, 04:36:34 PM
lol.. 100+ its normal man.. even i also sometimes play@loop any latest song that i dl.. sometimes.. for most of the song, i search the lyric then i can remember them as i sang along.. haha..

I think the most I ever managed was Balalika 84 times in two days and that seemed like a hell of a lot to me!

I do feel a little bad that I haven't been able to actually buy any of the stuff yet due to me having....well no money whatsoever. But I should be flying off to Japan within the next two years, I've already got £2000 saved up for JPop goodness!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: winner on April 25, 2007, 04:42:04 PM
Well, being under Kinki "the guiness record holders for #1 singles" Kids is damn good!
Go Yossi Go!~~
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 25, 2007, 04:53:38 PM
I think the most I ever managed was Balalika 84 times in two days and that seemed like a hell of a lot to me!

I do feel a little bad that I haven't been able to actually buy any of the stuff yet due to me having....well no money whatsoever. But I should be flying off to Japan within the next two years, I've already got £2000 saved up for JPop goodness!

Hehe Balaika 84 times might drive me mad... as listening to it as many times as i have (which is only when I watch the concerts on my computer) has a confounded way of getting the song stuck in my head (must be the russian children song sound). 100+ allows me to get a feel and learn the words to the song... It took me about one third of that to get the stupid half lyrics I once posted, and then more to get a feel for the song in whole. And now if I'm board I can sing it to myself...lol. Yes this song is so awesome I learned the lyrics before it came out! woohoo!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Ching1670 on April 25, 2007, 07:46:34 PM
Great news, everybody was predicting they ll be in the top 10, but not in the top 3.
A #2 spot is very good, beating ORANGE RANGE. Chemistry, BoA, etc.

Morning Musume definitely overarchived, hopefully they could keep this up.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Nouciel on April 25, 2007, 08:57:51 PM
I wasn't expecting them to beat BoA :o Orange Range maybe, since it's an acquired taste anyways XD
Go MM go! and pwn those Kinki kids :wahaha: !!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ew0923 on April 25, 2007, 09:42:35 PM
It's a great first day, but as we all know, most of the sales for MM is in the first few days, but hopefully they'll go past the 50K mark on the first week, it's a good song.

And the booklet looks really good, hopefully my copy arrives soon.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: yumestarlet on April 25, 2007, 10:37:41 PM
Number two! Ahh, awesome, I'm so proud! XDD Hope this keeps up~!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: DroolBoy on April 25, 2007, 10:47:11 PM
By the way, the index number for the single [12953 I think] for the first day of sales, means that they sold in the high 20k/low 30k zone for the first day alone..

Hopefully they keep in the top 5 for today's sales..
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: TydusArandor on April 25, 2007, 10:52:41 PM
I really didn't expect them to rank at #2. Doesn't Orange Range usually sell above 100k? I guess it being Yossie's last single as MM has an effect.

Though if they released a bit after or earlier than KinKi Kids they might've gotten #1, which would have been a very good farewell present. Ah well, #2 is already very good!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Koolmon93 on April 25, 2007, 11:48:43 PM
Well, I think sales might go up for Momusu tomorrow. I just have this feeling... that Momusu wiill move to #1 by some force... LOL
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: redux on April 26, 2007, 12:23:20 AM
I really am happy to here about the sales, the thing about the index number definately sounds promising. None of the Japanese people I know here (and trust me there's a fair few) are interested whatsoever in Morning Musume now. They can't name the members anymore yet ask "You know Yaguchi Mari right?" and you get "Of course!" I guess it's a sign of how much things have gone downhill for them.

They may not be re-creating the kind of sales figures they had a few years ago but this still is really good considering the competition.

Also like I've already stated I like the concept behind the single, it's definately something new for them and I hope they do become a little more experimental in the future as they've certainly added a few elements in Rainbow 7 and Sexy 8 Beat that weren't in the band before in. I though Sexy 8 Beat was a bit too uptight at first but it's grown on me a lot, although I didn't really think about it at first I think Momosu have been a lot more alternative recently than in previous years and this single really pushes the barriers on what's come before for them. Although sales may never be what they were, for me personally the future of Momosu is looking good.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on April 26, 2007, 01:04:19 AM
Well, I think sales might go up for Momusu tomorrow. I just have this feeling... that Momusu wiill move to #1 by some force... LOL

Let's put our minds (and our money) on it.  CONCENTRATE.......ohmmmmmmmm!!! :prayers:

several questions i wanna ask though about Oricon charting.
1. Does Oricon checks the sales at all the stores around Japan? or just some stores? 
2. When they check the sales, is it at a specific region like tokyo or kanto region only or total sales in Japan?
3. How about internet sales or in-stores-only sales?
4. How about Exports sales(oversea sales)?  who checks that? like on amazon.com or yesasia.com?

i dunno know much about that as i don't live in japan and doesnt know any japanese. i always wanted to buy their stuff thru the internet but i haven't due to a money problem (I DON'T HAVE ANY!!! :frustrated:.  When i do, i surely will load up on their merchandise. however, whenever i hear of sales, i always feel guilty for not able to buy their stuff.  even though i don't think whether i buy it or not thru the internet will help their oricon chartings. 

I really am happy to here about the sales, the thing about the index number definately sounds promising. None of the Japanese people I know here (and trust me there's a fair few) are interested whatsoever in Morning Musume now. They can't name the members anymore yet ask "You know Yaguchi Mari right?" and you get "Of course!" I guess it's a sign of how much things have gone downhill for them.

They may not be re-creating the kind of sales figures they had a few years ago but this still is really good considering the competition.

Also like I've already stated I like the concept behind the single, it's definately something new for them and I hope they do become a little more experimental in the future as they've certainly added a few elements in Rainbow 7 and Sexy 8 Beat that weren't in the band before in. I though Sexy 8 Beat was a bit too uptight at first but it's grown on me a lot, although I didn't really think about it at first I think Momosu have been a lot more alternative recently than in previous years and this single really pushes the barriers on what's come before for them. Although sales may never be what they were, for me personally the future of Momosu is looking good.

yah, that too sad, momusu just doesn't have the selling power like they do back in the days. They were da bomb back then (doesn't mean they're bad now, though).  even though i only just started knowing about them about less than a year ago.  i've been watching and checking some of their info and of course the momusu were leading the jpop girl-group in a huge way. with great sales and everyone seems to love the old members( OF COURSE THEY DO, THEY WERE THE LEGENDARY MEMBERS) even if people don't know the momusu now, they certainly knows of them back then.  it just sads that their solo careers werent so good as when they were in momusu.  nevertheless, i  :heart: Momusu and H!P, even though they arent as good as back then, sales-wise, they're still a great group of girls that we'll always love.  the future of Momusu and H!P looks great. 
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: redux on April 26, 2007, 04:08:40 AM
Hm, I found this pretty interesting over at Jinryuichi's blog.

http://jinryuichi-hnph.blogspot.com/

Considering what's being discussed in here you guys might do to. ("Kanashimi Twilight Debuts at #2 on Oricon ..... A Tainted Celebration ")
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: cynee on April 26, 2007, 04:19:44 AM
seems like Orange Range (at #3) has only half of MM's sales! it's great to hear that this single is doing well in Japan, it's a good song plus it's Yossie's last, so i hope the company will try to do more promotions to hype it up so that the good sales can be maintained. yay for MM!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Jay on April 26, 2007, 04:40:00 AM
I dedicate my 175th post to the Smiling Mitsui-chan for putting such a great effort in the song and giving us a taste of her voice (she has the most cutest voice in MM imo) ! 

but I like Sugaya's shyness too <3
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tiny on April 26, 2007, 04:54:49 AM
1. Does Oricon checks the sales at all the stores around Japan? or just some stores?

Many, but not all. There is an incomplete list on the Oricon site (see link below)

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2. When they check the sales, is it at a specific region like tokyo or kanto region only or total sales in Japan?

Oricon says it's from stores across Japan.

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3. How about internet sales or in-stores-only sales?

Some of them are counted, some of them not. Some internet retailers are listed on the list (notably Amazon[.co.jp] and Neowing (CDJapan))

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4. How about Exports sales(oversea sales)?  who checks that? like on amazon.com or yesasia.com?

Those are most likely not counted. (edit: I mean sales from overseas stores are not counted, export from stores in Japan I am not sure about)

There is a list of stores on this page: http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/index2.html
 
Oricon also describes what that index number means. Well, they only say it is not actual sales, but it gives us an indication how the top 3 releases are doing compared to each other.

1 KinKi Kids 42254
2 Morning Musume 17352
3 Orange Range 6729

Also the weekly total is not the daily totals combined. Some sales are counted daily, others aren't. How Oricon exactly counts sales is a "trade secret", so the only thing left to us is to trust them (or not).

Just like Cookie Holiday said, see this informative blog entry to read more about Oricon's practices: http://jinryuichi-hnph.blogspot.com/2007/04/kanashimi-twilight-debuts-at-2-on.html
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tiny on April 26, 2007, 10:16:50 AM
Day 2 in the charts features the inevitable drop to... #3. That's not so bad.

Index numbers:
1 KinKi Kids 27558
2 Orange Range 6363
3 Morning Musume 5906
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 26, 2007, 10:24:16 AM
Well it was bound to happen, but the loss isn't that bad, around 400 units difference between them and orange range, thats something... It must be hard to keep up the steam against people like Kinki Kids though, just look at those numbers!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: redux on April 26, 2007, 12:28:53 PM
I'm not too upset that KK are so far ahead, and a difference of about 400 between 2nd and 3rd isn't something to be getting upset about either. I'm relatively happy with the way things have gone, though it would have been nice to have been pushing KK a little bit more for that number 1 spot.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tiny on April 26, 2007, 12:38:26 PM
Kanashimi Twilight related interviews are popping up everywhere.

Yossie solo on the Oricon site:
http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/interview/070425_01.html

Morning Musume on the MySound site:
http://www.mysound.jp/special/detail.php?c=104
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on April 26, 2007, 01:41:51 PM
u know what'll be cool?  if just for one day, Kanashimi twilight could take the top spot, that'll be news worthy, just kickin kinki kids out of the spot for a day or too, keep'em on their toes.  although i don't think it'll happen though.  but one can dream can't they? i have nothing against them or the other artists, in fact i'm a fan of kinki kids, like their songs, i like boa and orange range as well.  anyway, with orange range, even though they took the 2nd spot, judging from the sales from tuesday, MM is not at a loss. overall, they'll still be above orange range, for now.  i don't wanna jinx anything, but i hope they'll keep selling more and more to be in the top 3 or top 5. 
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: cynee on April 26, 2007, 06:46:45 PM
the scary gap in sales number difference is definitely justified. the Kinki Kids single is not just a regular single, but one celebrating their 10th anniversary since they debuted, so you beg all the fangirls will make sure that Kinki sells like hotcakes so as to continue their Oricon #1s record! i guess for now if MM can stay in the top 3 positions, it's good enough  ;)

i got my single today and i can't stop listening to the c/w song 'Hand made City'! it's so catchy and fits so well as a side song to 'Kanashimi Twilight'~! lovin' it! :)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 26, 2007, 07:00:51 PM
Don't have the time to try to read through the articles that tiny gave but I think its funny that all of them give the same kind of response for how Kanashimi Twilight feels... its all cool with them, hopefully it'll stay cool for everyone and keep up sales!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: S-N-I-P-E-R on April 26, 2007, 07:08:31 PM
http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=484840yz5.jpg

is there a yossie version of this?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on April 26, 2007, 08:23:26 PM
Sales seem pretty good for the past few days. It's doubtful, but hopefully it will have some staying power, and get #2 for the weekly too. Orange Range is going to be a tough contender. Also having the 3 different versions and it being the last single with Yossi/4th gen probably had a big impact on how well it did the first few days.

Anything johnny's will be #1, no surprise there, whether the sales figures on oricon are reliable or not, Johnny's is still very popular and most likely would be #1 anyways. And we're talking about Kinki Kids, they're pretty much Pop legends in Japan.

BTW How does this single compare to Egao Yes Nude?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on April 26, 2007, 08:40:52 PM
BTW How does this single compare to Egao Yes Nude?

i don't know how to explain this but can go  here (http://wiki.theppn.org/Egao_Yes_Nude) to check the oricon ranking and sales to compare.  basically the first 2 days are the same, according to the chart.  First day #2, Second day #3, total first week, #4 with 40,884 sales.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: TydusArandor on April 27, 2007, 12:32:14 AM
Hmm, I think it'll definitely do better than Egao YES Nude. WaT and BoA didn't move, so the #3 spot seems pretty safe to me. Since Kanashimi Twilight's index number thing was 10k more than Ika Summer (right!?) yesterday, maybe even a #2 weekly spot?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on April 27, 2007, 02:34:38 AM
let's hope so, i mean there's still a couple more days till the end of this week.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tiny on April 27, 2007, 08:52:45 AM
An early ranking report on 2ch says Morning Musume stays on #2 in the daily rankings. Index numbers will be known when the Oricon site updates at 1900 (JST).

edit: Uh, I mean becomes second again. I'm still a little sleepy I guess..

edit 2:

Index numbers:
1 KinKi Kids 13271
2 Morning Musume 3988
3 Orange Range 3332
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Sukoshi on April 27, 2007, 10:21:53 AM
Whoooo~~!!  they are doing so great!  :heart: 
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ggliff on April 27, 2007, 01:44:13 PM
Go Momusu!

How smoking is the 'another version' PV  :sweat: :k-great:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: redux on April 27, 2007, 02:35:58 PM
I prefer the original PV myself but each to their own as they say.

It is great to see them climbing back up to second, the gap between them and KK is still pretty damn shocking though.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Pharadox on April 27, 2007, 04:44:47 PM
^ I like the original PV better too. 'Another ver.' is kind of... boring to me. It reminds me of the close-up version of the Namida ga Tomaranai Houkago PV. It just isn't the same without dancing. And the beginning of it gives me this awkward feeling that the audio isn't in sync with the video.

But I'm really glad they didn't cut yossie's solo lines out of it.  :heart: I was really disappointed when they weren't included in the Haromoni@ performance of the song.  :gyaaah:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 27, 2007, 05:41:20 PM
Woohoo! Recovery Musume! They may not be able to compete with Kinki Kids but it looks like no one can.

Another Version wasn't super impressive, but if you are a fan of the pink tube and the retro clothes.... Its enjoyable if you like the slower pace feel to the pv that way, but otherwise stick with the regular version, dancing + school girl like outfits + close ups = win!

Yossie's solo line is awesome all the time...lol
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on April 27, 2007, 06:00:02 PM
Music Japan performance rocked!!!! They are really nailing the "sexy" looks.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: redux on April 27, 2007, 06:10:36 PM
Where can I get hold of the coveted Music Japan performance?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ggliff on April 27, 2007, 06:16:02 PM
Music Japan performance rocked!!!! They are really nailing the "sexy" looks.

You are sooo right, smouldering looks  :heart:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on April 27, 2007, 06:22:10 PM
where can i watch the video rite now?  or maybe i should wait a couple days until they upload online huh. i guess being in japan, u guys get the info immediately and we here in the west have to wait at least a day to get it. damn i would love to move to japan
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Parhelion69 on April 27, 2007, 06:27:29 PM
Music Japan performance rocked!!!! They are really nailing the "sexy" looks.
Where do you guys get the performance? I can find it neither on the JPHIP, nor the HO tracker... Some japanese tracker maybe?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on April 27, 2007, 06:29:52 PM
where can i watch the video rite now?  or maybe i should wait a couple days until they upload online huh. i guess being in japan, u guys get the info immediately and we here in the west have to wait at least a day to get it. damn i would love to move to japan
LOL, I'm not in Japan, I'm in Venezuela, South America. And yes, I got it from one of my japanese uploaders links. Anyway, I am uploading the video right now, but it will take a while since my upload speed is crap. When I'm finished, I'll post the link, unless somebody does it first  ;D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: redux on April 27, 2007, 06:32:45 PM
Ah thanks a lot, torrents and my computer don't mix well...or at all rather.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on April 27, 2007, 06:49:21 PM
And they sing LIVE!!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: redux on April 27, 2007, 06:58:04 PM
Shocking, thankfully Risa doesn't feature to prominently in the song so we won't get earache from it. Don't get me wrong I love the girl, she's can't bloody sing though!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Jay on April 27, 2007, 07:45:08 PM
If I were to rate the Musumes in this song.. it would be

1. Yossie Hitomi
2. Miki Fujimoto
3. Takahashi Ai
4. Tanaka Reina
5. Mitsui Aika
6. Risa Niigaki
7. Koharu Kusumi
8. Kamei Eri
9. Michishige Sayumi


This is my opinion. I like it this way.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on April 27, 2007, 08:13:12 PM
LOL, I'm not in Japan, I'm in Venezuela, South America. And yes, I got it from one of my japanese uploaders links. Anyway, I am uploading the video right now, but it will take a while since my upload speed is crap. When I'm finished, I'll post the link, unless somebody does it first  ;D

thanks i appreciate ur work.  i'll be waiting for it. 

EDIT: Thanks for the upload, but something seems to be wrong.  it was downloading fine but when it got to 94%, it justs stop.  don't know what to do or how to fix it.  i've been using a download manager, flashget download. 
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on April 27, 2007, 09:18:19 PM
Here it is, as promised, Kanashimi Twilight Music Japan performance http://www.sendspace.com/file/4tv4fy

It is short, but they ROCKED THE HOUSE, just watch the audience (specially the women in the audience)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: redux on April 27, 2007, 09:23:50 PM
Thanksa  lot boyo, much appreciated.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: TydusArandor on April 27, 2007, 09:54:27 PM
Thanks for the perf! Haha, more of Miki's lazy dancing :D

Awesome that they're back at #2 again today. My hope for a #2 weekly spot is getting stronger!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Blu-Cherri on April 27, 2007, 10:48:11 PM
thanx for the performance reyfer! ^_^
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ggliff on April 27, 2007, 11:09:27 PM
nice one, thanks a lot reyfer :D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Koolmon93 on April 27, 2007, 11:56:08 PM
You know, I think this single might be the first Momusu single to reach 50k in a while.. IIRC... It might even beat Balalaika!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 28, 2007, 12:38:18 AM
Short but sweet, thanx reyfer! its awesome stuff, though I woulda loved to hear yossie's solo in it...
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on April 28, 2007, 12:45:52 AM
Short but sweet, thanx reyfer! its awesome stuff, though I woulda loved to hear yossie's solo in it...
But if you get the whole MM thing on that show, there's a talk before the performance, and it's all a Yossi grad special, pretty good. It's up at H!O tracker now
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on April 28, 2007, 04:54:05 AM
wow they actually jumped back to #2!!(and beat Orange Range!)

I hoping that this isn't just some crazy wota thing and other people are actually buying it.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tiny on April 28, 2007, 08:33:29 AM
Today the real drop in the rankings has occured: 6th.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Soteniliene on April 28, 2007, 10:25:05 AM
Aha, Yossui got like 9 seconds of solo in her last MM song..
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: mr.niigaki on April 28, 2007, 01:42:28 PM
Thanks so much for the preformance reyfer!!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tempethegreat on April 28, 2007, 02:13:29 PM
Aha, Yossui got like 9 seconds of solo in her last MM song..

only 9 second???
it is good enough or not????
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Blu-Cherri on April 28, 2007, 03:35:07 PM
^that's a lot more than several graduating members had.
I mean, what was kei-esque about As for One Day?? Or Konno and Mako in Ambitious - one line each.
Generally the b-side is more member concentrated, but even then sometimes its nothing.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on April 28, 2007, 03:40:13 PM
Today the real drop in the rankings has occured: 6th.

Aw, damn it!  well does anyone have the figures for today?  maybe they made 6th place today, but the week sales overall would put them on #2 spot.  hoping...  
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ferrar1 on April 28, 2007, 03:57:08 PM
^that's a lot more than several graduating members had.
I mean, what was kei-esque about As for One Day?? Or Konno and Mako in Ambitious - one line each.
Generally the b-side is more member concentrated, but even then sometimes its nothing.

Lol she had a As for one day, Kei's version on Haromoni if people do remember that. All the cameras focused on her XXD
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Blu-Cherri on April 28, 2007, 04:13:31 PM
^lol that was good!
She was so happy and the other members were like 'eh?' lol :p
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tiny on April 28, 2007, 05:47:49 PM
Aw, damn it!  well does anyone have the figures for today?  maybe they made 6th place today, but the week sales overall would put them on #2 spot.  hoping... 

The are only index numbers for places 1 to 3. But the numbers for today are far lower than yesterday. You can see them here: http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/js/d/

The index number total over the first 3 days for Morning Musume is much higher than the total over for 4 days for Orange Range. So 2nd still is likely. (insert disclaimer here)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 28, 2007, 07:03:42 PM
But if you get the whole MM thing on that show, there's a talk before the performance, and it's all a Yossi grad special, pretty good. It's up at H!O tracker now

Ohhh, I would go get it but I'm having (another) harddrive instance, and so I can't bt till I get that fixed  :fainted: I generally just need a new drive enclosure by sunday so I can catch up and get this weeks haromoni@....

Orange range stayed in the top ranking for more days but overall had less sales from what was shown?... good signs good signs... being second for the week is great its like virtually first if Kinki Kids weren't around (not that that will ever happen)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on April 28, 2007, 07:06:20 PM
Well, here's the Yossi talk part of the Music Japan show, and later I will upload a better version of the performance (1280x720)
Music Japan Yossi talk (http://www.sendspace.com/file/3ywmza)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 28, 2007, 07:13:51 PM
Well, here's the Yossi talk part of the Music Japan show, and later I will upload a better version of the performance (1280x720)
Music Japan Yossi talk (http://www.sendspace.com/file/3ywmza)

Oh thank you! If I wasn't at school right now I'd be jumping up and down... then again if I wasn't at school I'd probably be sleeping still... heh, either way thanx reyfer, this should be an enjoyable watch, though sad as well cause I'm gonna miss yossie in Momusu. :pleeease:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Ren on April 28, 2007, 07:58:15 PM
I hope they'll have consistent sales for the next few days so they can be #2 at the weekly ranking.

I hope for Utaban performance to add some numbers to the sales.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on April 28, 2007, 08:05:18 PM
As promised, a better quality version of the performance, Music Japan Kanashimi Twilight 1280x720 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/8335z8)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ChiruChaCha on April 28, 2007, 08:17:57 PM
No Utaban perf/talk for this single?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 28, 2007, 08:21:48 PM
Thats coming up soon I believe... but it might be a little different if Ai's not up to 100% yet. I do hope they get to talk and have fun this time... I miss them doing silly stuff on Utaban... I really do! (imagines eri's visual gags and making fun of baribari makoto and miki's lack of map knowledge and... *trails off*)
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Post by: JFC on April 28, 2007, 09:39:53 PM
Kanashimi perf in 60 fps is (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c340/J-F-C/buttrock.gif). Big thanks reyfer.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on April 28, 2007, 10:35:09 PM
they seem to have the most fun on Utaban than any other talk music show they been on.  i guess it cuz they have a strong bond with the show and it hosts, when watching Utaban, the host seem to have alot of fun talking to the girls, especially the past episodes.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: redux on April 29, 2007, 01:11:59 AM
Thanks a lot for the new upload Reyfer, much appreciated.

I have to say I'm still digging the outfits, I wouldn't even mind settling for a KT PB they're that awesome! But let's be honest, that won't happen...

I don't wanna offend anyone here but in all honesty I'm glad that Yossie hasn't taken the spotlight away from everyone. Obviously this is her last single and it's gotta mean something to her and the fans but it's good to see that they haven't milked it and put her at the for freont of eevrything, seeing Miki take centre was a welcome surprise.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: dat on April 29, 2007, 05:00:05 AM
thanks for music japan :D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tiny on April 29, 2007, 10:07:09 AM
Today's daily ranking: 10th.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: linlin on April 29, 2007, 11:55:35 AM
they drop fast now ... still hope weekly ranking's good ..
i was hoping the good sales was because of the song itself more than the handshake event.
hoping that even after the event was announced, they would still be selling lots...
guess it's not gonna happen to MM/HP huh?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on April 29, 2007, 03:24:15 PM
damn, 10th place.  how much they're selling like 300-400, something like that?  how the top 3 position selling?  does #2 or #3 likely for the week? 
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: redux on April 29, 2007, 03:30:33 PM
I had some gut feeling they'd be number 10 today...they really are dropping quickly. Hopefully they can still take a top 3 spot for the week.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reine on April 29, 2007, 04:57:48 PM
They'll still get no2 weekly, or at the worst no3 (not likely tho), they sold a truck load on the first day.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on April 29, 2007, 05:09:46 PM
Well, believe or not, I found audio from the handshake events today at Tokyo and Osaka.
Team A was in Tokyo first, and is Fujimoto Miki, Niigaki Risa, Michishige Sayumi, Kusumi Koharu
Team B was in Osaka, and is Yoshizawa Hitomi, Takahashi Ai, Kamei Eri, Tanaka Reina, Mitsui Aika
Later, they switched, Team A in Osaka and Team B in Tokyo for the evening. These recordings are from the morning event

Team A Tokyo http://www.sendspace.com/file/spa3jd

Team B Osaka http://www.sendspace.com/file/7i0a7v
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: RionZ on April 29, 2007, 05:22:22 PM
Dance Shot version exists, on the Event V from Hawaii or whatever...

I'm downloading now :)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on April 29, 2007, 06:06:08 PM
Yes, the dance shot version can be found only on the EventV DVD from the Hawaii FC Trip, and usually these DVDs are for FC members only, so a nice member put it on the net, and now it's at H!O tracker
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: TydusArandor on April 29, 2007, 06:17:10 PM
Hmm, Egao YES Nude's lowest place in the first week was only 5. Ouch! But I don't remember if they had this kind of competition. And KinKi Kids is still going at it strong, thrice as much as WaT's :/.  One (two?) more day till we find out the weekly sales!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on April 29, 2007, 10:19:46 PM
i saw the episode of Music Station on the 27th.  it says that the single is ranked 2nd.  is this the same one as Oricon?  i thought not since they showed it on friday and the oricon rankings doesn't end till sunday, if i'm not mistaken.  so this must be a different kind of ranking then, yes?  what kind of ranking would this be then?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Sukoshi on April 30, 2007, 12:44:26 AM
Wasn't MS about the first day rankings?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on April 30, 2007, 02:40:10 AM
10th... well new songs would come out after and it'll slowly lose rank, its bound to happen and I'm not that concerned...

Ahh so that Event V thing is a FC only thing... after losing the ISO of their 2004 FC event DVD in a harddrive crash I was wondering if all FC tour things are DVD only and though someone told me so seeing it myself is always confirming... I guess this part is just the quiz part which was indoors and such.

I'm still waiting for my KT single with booklet.... why why did I chose standard shipping
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tiny on April 30, 2007, 06:15:37 AM
@BigDnm01: Music Station has their own ranking that start and end on different days of the week as the Oricon ranking.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on April 30, 2007, 06:53:16 AM
huh... ok thanks for the info, tiny,  i guess it's a good thing they ranked 2nd on some other chart. 
just hope it'll be the same thing for oricon, although making 3rd would still kept them in their milestones achievement. 
    -having all consecutive singles in the top 10 on their debut week, the only female group to release 32 consecutive single that have ranked in the top 10,
    -all of their singles except for the first, Morning Coffee, have ranked in the top 5,
    -and the first female group to release singles ranked in the top 10 for ten consecutive years, according to oricon and wikipedia.  that is just some great feat they accomplished there.  i hope my saying this doesn't jinx it. 
:prayers:


EDIT: from my sources, KT ranked 15 on Sunday.  so i guess oricon just waiting to compile up the sales count for the entire week.... Come on KT!!! GO! GO! GO!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tiny on April 30, 2007, 04:10:31 PM
Centuryland.jp staff have received an e-mail from Yomiuri: Kanashimi Twilight will be 2nd in the weekly chart with 54K sold.

http://centuryland.jp/news/html/00000215.html#20070501000000
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on April 30, 2007, 04:40:40 PM
WOW.  54,000 sales in the first week.  that's great. Aruiteru, they're recent #1 only sold 43,000 in the first week, and 55,000 total, according to wiki and the oricon.  even Egao Yes Nude total sales is only about 53,000.  not to mention that not all sales are counted by Oricon, but this is great.  too bad they only got 2nd, huh. 

if it wasn't for KinKi Kids, they should've gotten the top spot.  nothing against the kids, i kinda like them in fact.  i just love MoMusu more (and the fact is they're girls). 

anyway, i really do love this style of music they're doing.  i hope they could continue on with this pop/rock style more, especially with Yossi when she have her solo debut.  although i don't mind any other genre they did before, like bubblegum pop, techno/pop, kinda stuff. 
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: RionZ on April 30, 2007, 04:52:19 PM
Yea seriously, fooken KinKi kids (no offense Amp ;) )

Great chart position :D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Blu-Cherri on April 30, 2007, 05:52:53 PM
Well momusu had a sales drop previously but it looks like their sales might be going back up again.
This would be really great!! I really hope they're going up because this means more air-time(more popular artists get to talk longer) and it'd just be great all round! Hopefully Tsunku keeps learning from the sales which singles are popular and doesn't write too many songs that are icky!!
but also not a load the same, that'd suck big time!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tiny on April 30, 2007, 06:12:04 PM
From the same centuryland post I linked earlier: Morning Musume now have surpassed Pink Lady as the top selling all female group. Morning Musume have sold 11,085K (11 million 85 thousand) singles, against Pink Lady's 11,037K.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: RionZ on April 30, 2007, 06:12:48 PM
great news, MM is killin the record books :)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Parhelion69 on April 30, 2007, 09:09:30 PM
From the same centuryland post I linked earlier: Morning Musume now have surpassed Pink Lady as the top selling all female group. Morning Musume have sold 11,085K (11 million 85 thousand) singles, against Pink Lady's 11,037K.
This is awesome!!. What's more, momosu will stay around several years more (I'm always positive), so that record will extend itself (and hopefully it'll NEVER be broken  :prayers: )
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ggliff on April 30, 2007, 09:14:25 PM
Nice one MM, 2nd for the week and top selling all female group. Great news :D

And quite right too, great song, great PV and great line-up. MM seem to be getting stronger and stronger lately.
There is a lot to like happening in MM and HP at the moment.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Pinkosa on April 30, 2007, 10:44:59 PM
WOW, 54k in the first week? MM are getting stronger  :heart:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: redux on April 30, 2007, 11:01:36 PM
Great news, but I'm not too optimistic on the inprovement on future sales. Obviously I'd like them to keep going up and up but I reckon Momosu really has had their hey-day and they won't reach the heights they had a few years ago. Just what I think anyway, hopefully I'm wrong.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on April 30, 2007, 11:23:52 PM
I really, really don't get it. They finally reached the 50k mark in a week for a single, merchandise sales are sky high, and yet people have to get negative about it? When Egao YES Nude came out, people were saying "look at those numbers, it will be difficult for them to sell over 50k ever again" and with this single they proved those people were wrong. The last time a MM single sold more than 50k in the first week was with Iroppoi Jirettai in 2005. I don't see a bad future for them. Sales are down for EVERY artist around the world, not only in Japan. The fact that they reached that number going against Orange Range and BoA, and with Kinki Kids in the #1 spot, tells me their popularity is not as low as some may think. And from my experience in January for the 10th anniversary concerts, their following is still HUGE.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ggliff on May 01, 2007, 12:17:37 AM
Here here reyfer. MM can outsell against almost anyone around. Their are a very few people/groups that are just guaranteed a No1. Kinki Kids were ALWAYS going to be No1, but as you say, they beat Orange Range and BoA.

Whenever people talk about falling sales, it is never in comparison to what others are selling, just to the past. MM have held their own against all others for 10 years, and still look very strong.

Also, if the push into the Chinese market goes well, how many might they sell then, the potential is enormous (as Tsunku has rightly spotted :D ).

EDIT
Just re-read that and it might seem I was aiming that at you Cookie Holiday, but I'm not honest :heart:
Its was just a response to reyfer's post. I am really optimistic about MM & HP at the moment and had to reply and agree with his post. There are so many things I am liking happening, and good sales and top selling all female group of all time, well what more do we need to be positive? :D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: nekochan on May 01, 2007, 12:49:16 AM
54000 first week? wow thats great!!
personally, i think morning musume is not in a bad position at all, and will only get better
i mean, its so easy to love them @@
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on May 01, 2007, 02:56:57 AM
Thought not the focus of the thread lets remember their own song, Be Positive!...lol ITs awesome that they are going strong and still breaking records... trying their best and pleasing the crowds is what got them there and hopefully it'll extend beyond!... i'm still waiting for mine... I hope the US Postal Service didn't lose it... :prayers:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Linus on May 01, 2007, 12:16:46 PM
Today's daily: #17

Oricon has the exact numbers already (Here I posted them (http://ikimasshoi.jphip.net/2007/05/01/57-oricon-week-sales-are-in/)):

KANASHIMI TWILIGHT
Rank: #2
Sales: 53,551


O0

Out of their last nine singles, KT surpasses the first week of all except of Iroppoi's (Article (http://ikimasshoi.jphip.net/2007/05/01/kanashimi-twilight-gets-weekly-2/)), and here you have MM records (http://ikimasshoi.jphip.net/2007/05/01/morning-musume-holds-5-records/) altogether. Impressive 8)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on May 01, 2007, 02:20:31 PM
SUPER FANTASTIC, and from the looks of things, since with all this publicity of the record holding, and it being a great song itself, i thinks sales are gonna increase even more, u think so?  just like how the others increase about 10~15k total. 

CONGRATUALTIONS, MORNING MUSUME!  holding five records, incredible group. and to Yossie, for having participated on all the records when they achieved it.  What a great graduation present for a wonderful leader.

Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: 楊枝君 on May 01, 2007, 03:41:21 PM
Yay! I'm glad KT is selling so well what with it being super cool and Yossi's grad single 'n all!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: SomethingWild on May 01, 2007, 03:43:26 PM
here you have MM records (http://ikimasshoi.jphip.net/2007/05/01/morning-musume-holds-5-records/) altogether. Impressive 8)

Most Top10 singles by a Female Group in Japan
#1. Morning Musume with 31 Top10 Hits.

Interesting, so which 2 didn't make it?

11 millions cds sold.. that's impressive!

Glad KT is doing so good!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: RionZ on May 01, 2007, 03:49:41 PM
Yep, we can say that Yossui went out with a bang :)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on May 01, 2007, 03:53:49 PM
Most Top10 singles by a Female Group in Japan
#1. Morning Musume with 31 Top10 Hits.

Interesting, so which 2 didn't make it?

11 millions cds sold.. that's impressive!

Glad KT is doing so good!
Well, if you look at the chart Oricon publishes here http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/rankmusic/44224/  you'll see that Oricon says 33, not 31, meaning that ALL their singles have been on the TOP 10 charts
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on May 01, 2007, 05:52:41 PM
I got mine last night from the mail! wooo! woooooo!
Yossie was part of all the records?? my goodness she's just that awesome huh? What a way to go out, yossie... I'm glad they came out with this before she graduated, its awesome!!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on May 01, 2007, 10:05:26 PM
As a female girl group in Japan. Momusu is still the best selling. Great news.

Most people don't buy singles anymore, only fans do. But not all fans buy every single, but this single seems to be a big hit among fans and they are buying it. After so many years, Momusu still has a huge fanbase, and that's all that really matters.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Pinkosa on May 01, 2007, 10:25:46 PM
As a female girl group in Japan. Momusu is still the best selling. Great news.

Most people don't buy singles anymore, only fans do. But not all fans buy every single, but this single seems to be a big hit among fans and they are buying it. After so many years, Momusu still has a huge fanbase, and that's all that really matters.

Yeah, Momusu always will have a huge fanbase! Especially because is easier to get into them  :heart:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on May 02, 2007, 02:31:06 AM
As a female girl group in Japan. Momusu is still the best selling. Great news.

Most people don't buy singles anymore, only fans do. But not all fans buy every single, but this single seems to be a big hit among fans and they are buying it. After so many years, Momusu still has a huge fanbase, and that's all that really matters.

Yah it's a great song, but i also like to think that not only the fans are buying it, but others as well (but since u say people don't buy singles anymore.....) :confused:

btw, a few questions: ;D
1) when u say fanbase, i guess u mean like Fan Club Members, and just wanna know how many members are there? 
2)How do u apply for membership?   :D
3)are the fanclub members cosidered to be mowotas?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on May 02, 2007, 02:53:47 AM
I can answer number 2 I can answer number 2 *waves hands around like a little kid*

If you want to be a member of the fanclub there is one important important, super taisetsu thing you need... A japanese address! yup thats the major roadblock, after that you have to fill in the forms along with your money (depending on how long of a membership period you want before reapplying) and then wait, I think 6 months for you to start receiving information and official documents.

If it weren't for that address issue I think they'd have more membership...  :glasses:... I remember trying to find out how to get in myself back when I heard about the Hawaii thing... ahh the frustration...lol

Anyways, I opened up my booklet edition to flip through the book and then I put it back in the plastic and resealed it... I love it but I don't want to ruin it....
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tiny on May 02, 2007, 08:17:23 AM
Sales details by Soundscan

Limited edition A: 17,255
Limited edition B: 11,430
Regular edition: 9,460

total: 38,145

The period and method of counting is unknown, but these figures give us an insight into the distribution of sales among the regular and limited editions. (source: 2ch)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Ayabie on May 02, 2007, 10:11:11 AM
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さらに、全国から絶品・お取り寄せグルメ大終結。
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和太鼓とエアロビクスの融合、今、話題のタイコビクスに挑戦。
石橋&吉澤奇跡の共演。

Expect them to get a lot of screen time. :D (Although, it seems like BoA is scheduled to appear as well.)

Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ferrar1 on May 02, 2007, 11:25:14 AM
Lol they don't call Risa the reaction queen for nothing.

If you put Ai chan beside Risa, it's like watching a person and a scarecrow XD
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on May 03, 2007, 02:47:46 AM
doesn't look like there's going to be another guest with them this time XD YAY!

Anyways,
When I say fanbase... I mean their fans in general, not only fan club members. And the fanclub members don't have to be mowota, but the majority of them probably are.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Kreuz_Asakura on May 03, 2007, 03:57:58 AM
It knew it!
They couldn't lack in Utaban and less when it is the last program to which Yossie would go like member of the group. In addition to being the last ones of momusu  that maintains a good relation with Taka-san and Nakai-san, the other one could be Miki

I can't wait to download the program,  another thing that I am noticing, they has been very busy
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on May 03, 2007, 05:48:49 AM
Exactly! Utaban was their home away from home with them having fun with Ishibashi and Nakai, I mean to go there without having fun is always a shame! its a sad thing that the newer groups don't have a connection to them though, I guess eri's visual aids aren't strong enough..... can't beat rika I suppose... T_T... I hope they'll still be good and have fun!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on May 03, 2007, 04:34:09 PM
Uploading right now, in glorious 1280x720. My upload speed is crap, so it's going to take a while. Two file, one is the talk part and the other the KT performance.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ebc on May 03, 2007, 04:40:31 PM
640x480 but it's still all good

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5751/thumbs20070504014118ua9.th.jpg) (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thumbs20070504014118ua9.jpg)
Talk Part 100mb (http://www.eyeballcancer.com/rika/lives/MM%20Kanashimi%20Twilight%20Utaban%20Talk%20(070503%20640x480).avi)

(http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/1049/thumbs20070504012940vl8.th.jpg) (http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thumbs20070504012940vl8.jpg)
Performance 65mb (http://www.eyeballcancer.com/rika/lives/MM%20Kanashimi%20Twilight%20Utaban%20Live%20Perf%20(070503%20640x480).avi)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: linlin on May 03, 2007, 04:52:08 PM
thanks for the upload ebc  :heart:

my friend still cant find me the limited B edition.. i feel so wrong for not preordering :depressed:
i feel like i'm such a bother to her right now... may be i should just get the regular version :err:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: RionZ on May 03, 2007, 05:12:48 PM
Sadly there's a very slim chance you'll find the limited B edition, you really should have pre-ordered, your best chance is ebay but you'll have to compete and might have to pay more than it actually costs :(
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on May 03, 2007, 06:04:37 PM
Thanks ebc!!!!

Here's the ones I promised:

Utaban Performance 1280x720 115.16MB (http://www.sendspace.com/file/m5l4pf)

Utaban Talk 1280x720 212MB (http://www.sendspace.com/file/b0sl4i)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: RionZ on May 03, 2007, 06:14:31 PM
w00t reyfer~ Thanks :D :D :D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ggliff on May 03, 2007, 07:28:14 PM
Thanks for the links :D :D
I just love MM on Utaban
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Ayabie on May 03, 2007, 07:39:27 PM
Wow, this appearance isn't even worth commenting. They got 7 minutes worth of "talk", where the hell did the rest of the time go?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Yasu on May 03, 2007, 07:41:52 PM
Short, but fun. I liked it, meh. Thanks ebc :3
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Vikitty on May 03, 2007, 08:08:57 PM
Awwww Ishibashi/Yossi warmed my bitter heart.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: hao9384 on May 03, 2007, 09:35:18 PM
wee, better quali *leech* xD thanks for sharing  :heart:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on May 03, 2007, 09:54:08 PM
i liked the segment, awww, Taka-san definitely gonna miss yossie, so am i, but at least she still part of H!P, doing various things,  just hope her solo career looks bright. 

I don't get what they're saying in the video, but as always, funny and entertaining.  Still understanding them would be a lot better so hoping for subbing sometime soon.  I don't really get what they're doing with the drum, but it's look like they're doing some "taiko" aerobics?  am i right?  cuz i kinda heard that somewhere in the video when they're talking. 
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on May 03, 2007, 11:46:58 PM
LOL, its short but they had fun and thats really all thats necessary...lol, its gonna be sad after this really... cause its getting harder and harder for utaban to connect to momusu without one of the OG around... T_T... yossie, please appear on utaban alot once you start doign solo stuff! then you'll get to have fun like when miki use to do stuff solo.. or aya... or....well most of the small groups.

Yossie's going for broke in it and thats really something to appreciate!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Kreuz_Asakura on May 04, 2007, 12:42:06 AM
I already see the program, Oh man!!! I wanna cry, I really liked to see how Taka embraced to Yossie and how she just have fun with him.
It's true, I really wanna see her there like a solo, just her. I think it will be more amused
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on May 04, 2007, 12:47:21 AM
LOL, its short but they had fun and thats really all thats necessary...lol, its gonna be sad after this really... cause its getting harder and harder for utaban to connect to momusu without one of the OG around... T_T... yossie, please appear on utaban alot once you start doign solo stuff! then you'll get to have fun like when miki use to do stuff solo.. or aya... or....well most of the small groups.

Yossie's going for broke in it and thats really something to appreciate!
Why do people always say that? Utaban hosts don't "connect" with the younger gens because THEY DON'T WANT TO, not because of something wrong with the girls. Saying that Utaban appearances will be bad from now on is showing absolutely no respect or faith in these girls. I'm sorry, but as I said on another place, why do people choose to live in a hypothetical dark future instead of living the very bright present?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ebc on May 04, 2007, 01:43:35 AM
why do people choose to live in a hypothetical dark future instead of living the very bright present?
I think it's just the way things have changed in general over time.
It's probably not the girls or the hosts fault but maybe just that they don't get as much talk time or even tv appearances in general as the older generations used to get which is probably the decision of people in management of the tv shows.

And I think this "hypothetical dark future" you mention is actually present right now because of the fact MM isn't getting as much TV talk time. It's not a fans choice it's just the way things have now become.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on May 04, 2007, 01:57:34 AM
I didn't say anything was wrong with the girls... I don't mean to say that its something wrong with anyone... its just part of the changing times... I'm not saying its over for them either, but a lot of the little quirks I enjoyed about utaban's past involved the OG being a fire...lol, that is to say they did somethign stupid...lol. They have their own thing to do now and even then its enjoyable to an extent, but like missing Hello Morning I'm gonna miss old Utaban. At the same time Its new stuff and I enjoy when they get to have fun like I said... I'm not trying to insult anyone k?...  I'm wanna crawl in a ball now... sorry for being too vague...  :err: :imdead:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on May 04, 2007, 02:05:36 AM
I didn't say anything was wrong with the girls... I don't mean to say that its something wrong with anyone... its just part of the changing times... I'm not saying its over for them either, but a lot of the little quirks I enjoyed about utaban's past involved the OG being a fire...lol, that is to say they did somethign stupid...lol. They have their own thing to do now and even then its enjoyable to an extent, but like missing Hello Morning I'm gonna miss old Utaban. At the same time Its new stuff and I enjoy when they get to have fun like I said... I'm not trying to insult anyone k?...  I'm wanna crawl in a ball now... sorry for being too vague...  :err: :imdead:
I'm sorry, it's just that I'm sick of hearing people putting down everything that came after 5th gen joined. I know you did not mean anything wrong, but to read the line "it's gonna be sad after this really" for a moment it reads as like you're saying they're not worth the try. Sorry if I came down hard on you.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on May 04, 2007, 02:12:02 AM
Its ok... I guess i could've been clearer... in all actuallity I like 6th generation most of all... but I guess I don't say it enough to show that when I say what I say that htat has....ya know I'm gonna say something relaly confusing...so we'll just go with... ok, I'm sorry too... but as long as we understand then its all good.

That being said.. I do have an utaban related question... has the amount of time they have guests on in general shrunken? That would explain why the older ones seem longer. Or is it that utaban popularity got greater that they want to cram more guests in the show? I hardly ever see and/or get the opportunity to download a full episode of utaban that has people on it I'd like to see...

Have they ever performed Hand Made City anywhere live?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on May 04, 2007, 02:15:35 AM
Good question about Utaban. We usually only see the "MM is getting less time" part, but do we know if other artists are getting less time too? For what I've heard (and I'm not sure this is true), it's not just MM, so we should check that out too.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ferrar1 on May 04, 2007, 02:58:53 AM
Utaban is slowly changing from a serious musician tv show for promoting their new songs, to more of an entertainment tv show for musicians, geinins etc.

So with the increase in the potential no of guests, it's normal to see a decrease in timings for each group of guests. For MM's case, it's because they were on Utaban too much (almost every fortnight or month) in the past that compared to now, their screen time seems to be drastically reduced. But if you compare it to BoA, Amuro or other musicians, it's about the same. These artists only come on when they have new singles or albums as well.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on May 04, 2007, 09:51:00 AM
Ahh thats enlightening to know that. I always thought that Utaban was meant to be entertainment tv show for musicians... with the way morning musume and other hello project groups always doing something funny on it... and with ishibashi as a host, it seemed like they were designed to be comedic... but I guess thats just my interpretation again. I don't watch that much talk type japanese shows.

Watching the KT making I thought it was great seeing it like that... also very much enjoyed all the moments with everyone. I thought it was interesting how yossie pointed out the studio thing, almost as if it was a sudden realization.... oh ya we shot here the first time for happy summer wedding too, wow isn't that cool kinda thing. Fun stuff
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: tiny on May 04, 2007, 10:12:27 AM
Daily rankings for week 2 until now:

Mon 17, Tue 21, Wed 23, Thu 24
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: linlin on May 04, 2007, 10:20:56 AM
it's nice they're not dropping too fast.. i expected them to be in the 30s right now :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: SomethingWild on May 04, 2007, 11:48:21 AM
It's here!! My first MM single ever!  :heart:

(http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/8146/p1010001ri8.jpg)

I got the Limited A version with DVD  :D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: mr.niigaki on May 04, 2007, 12:10:08 PM
Thanks ebc and reyfer for the uploads!  :heart:

Congrats BarrieV!  :)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Parhelion69 on May 04, 2007, 04:09:31 PM
I'm sorry, but as I said on another place, why do people choose to live in a hypothetical dark future instead of living the very bright present?

While I agree with the general media not caring as much for momosu currently, I think reyfer is totally right, there's no sense in being pessimistic and negative. By being so, many people could be affected and will share those same negative feelings. Momosu is here to stay, it may decline eventually, but how can it affect us if we remain possitive and keep supporting them, not caring for what other people say about them or us.

I'm having the greatest time of my life enjoying everything about them, specially their music, and I think many feel the same way, why try and ruin it for us? When there's a good vibe around, everyone can feel it, like when we had the good news of KT sales, rankings and MM's records. We all felt good, but then someone tries to ruin it and say it won't be the same, sales will go down, etc. Why this attitude? what do people gain by stating these?

Negative thinking is more likely to be spread and just for that, becomes really dangerous since it's like a virus. We should try to always stay possitive, if some single in the future doesn't succeed, then we shouldn't be negative and say it's doom, there will always be some downfalls, but you can always recover, and by having pessimistic feelings certainly doesn't help at all.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ChiruChaCha on May 04, 2007, 06:09:46 PM
Does anyone know what song were they dancing to in Utaban with the taiko-aerobics(or whatever the name is)?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: invisname on May 04, 2007, 06:20:11 PM
wasn't it Gloria Estefan's conga?

That's what had me originally confused... I was like... wait... is this taiko or conga...lol
I guess it was a fusion of the two...
Watching yossie dance out like ishibashii was hilarious...lol, she wanted to make it a party!

ya know now that I think about it... maybe, maybe... with the when junjun and linlin start appearing with the group, maybe we'll get a quiz like in the olden days! I know that seems like too long for the shorter segment time we have now but that would be classic! Everyone adds fun to those! ...Dangerous Mochi... ahh sayumi! Sorry I'm thinking back again...but with hope for the future!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: ChiruChaCha on May 04, 2007, 07:36:14 PM
Yup, it's Gloria Estefan's "Conga", thanks ^^ I thought it was Miami Sound Machine or something like that xD
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Marco Malvado on May 04, 2007, 07:56:35 PM
...there's no sense in being pessimistic and negative. By being so, many people could be affected and will share those same negative feelings. Momosu is here to stay...

I'm having the greatest time of my life enjoying everything about them, specially their music, and I think many feel the same way, why try and ruin it for us? When there's a good vibe around, everyone can feel it, like when we had the good news of KT sales, rankings and MM's records. We all felt good, but then someone tries to ruin it and say it won't be the same, sales will go down, etc. Why this attitude? what do people gain by stating these?

Testify, my Bolivian brother!!

Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: frblckstr1 on May 05, 2007, 05:34:14 AM
Yup, it's Gloria Estefan's "Conga", thanks ^^ I thought it was Miami Sound Machine or something like that xD
Its 'Gloria Estefan and the Miami Sound Machine' ;)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: SomethingWild on May 07, 2007, 02:21:17 PM
hehe I recorded the intro riff, check it out  ;D

http://www.students.let.uu.nl/3141381/BarrieV_KT_Riff.wav

It's not perfect, but not bad considering the amount of time I had..
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on May 08, 2007, 01:29:16 AM
lol I actually sorta figured out the opening riff back when the PV first popped up. It's a little different than yours though. Can't really record it though. My setup also doesn't really have the right tone either...

I was supposed to try the whole song but got lazy...
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Pinkosa on May 08, 2007, 02:04:54 AM
Oh god, the Dance is kinda hard to learn at least for me XD
Can't wait to see the sales from this week :p
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: RionZ on May 08, 2007, 02:15:37 AM
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/RionZ/DSC00066-1.jpg)

Those came in last week, observe the top row :)
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Koolmon93 on May 08, 2007, 02:32:13 AM
Just cuz you can afford it RionZ!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: RionZ on May 08, 2007, 04:33:15 AM
It was my B-day that week, don't hate~ And plus you're just 13, when u get a job and some money, you can do it too!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Parhelion69 on May 08, 2007, 05:30:23 AM
Testify, my Bolivian brother!!


Glad to see we have more people from my country... I wonder, would the girls ever imagine that they have fans in a country as remote and small as Bolivia, South America? We have incredible scenery here, they could make an excellent photobook here  ;D

And if you ever need anything, just PM me pal.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on May 08, 2007, 05:33:36 AM
Glad to see we have more people from my country... I wonder, would the girls ever imagine that they have fans in a country as remote and small as Bolivia, South America? We have incredible scenery here, they could make an excellent photobook here  ;D

And if you ever need anything, just PM me pal.
Well, they know they have fans on many parts of South America (at least Sayumi knows, I told her on the letter of mine she read on her show #12, and Miki has got letters from Brazil and somewhere else in South America).
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: RionZ on May 10, 2007, 01:59:19 PM
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/RionZ/DSC00011-1.jpg)

Yeah, forgot to include my photos in the other pic...>_>
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on May 10, 2007, 06:48:04 PM
Give me your monies bitch!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on May 10, 2007, 07:22:34 PM
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/RionZ/DSC00011-1.jpg)

Yeah, forgot to include my photos in the other pic...>_>

wow..... is the individual picture of the girls come with it or u have to buy it separately?  and do u actually have 3 different verison of KT? what's the different on those?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on May 10, 2007, 07:29:27 PM
lol It's the limited A with DVD, limited B with mini PB, and regular edition with cards.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on May 10, 2007, 08:32:40 PM
^what's the different from the Limited A and B and the regular except for the included extras (DVD, mini pbs, and cards)?  and is there a special package? like all in one, everything included?  and what's the cost of everything, all in one or separately?

btw. saw the second week cd sales, only ranked 27 on the oricon and sold 4,743.  it's sad to see that that don't have that staying power on the oricon or sold more than that. i was hoping that they be able to sell over 100k at least in a quicker time.  but by the looks of things, not likely huh.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: reyfer on May 10, 2007, 08:39:53 PM
^what's the different from the Limited A and B and the regular except for the included extras (DVD, mini pbs, and cards)?  and is there a special package? like all in one, everything included?  and what's the cost of everything, all in one or separately?
The difference is exactly that, the included extras and the packaging. And as far as I know, there is no "all-in-one" for this. Every edition comes separately.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on May 10, 2007, 08:54:59 PM
^oh, ok. i just thought that there's something different on the cd, like a bonus track or a different tracklist, u know.  probably not though.  thanks anyway.  so pretty if u would buy all three set, u get 3 exact same cd, probably a different cover. but i guess with the included items that comes with it, it's all worth it.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on May 11, 2007, 02:17:56 AM
I wouldn't exactly say it's worth it :P
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: RionZ on May 11, 2007, 02:51:18 AM
^ ah, i was about to give you my monies, too bad, since its not worth it :/
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: JFC on May 11, 2007, 02:54:39 AM
^ I've nothing to sell, but I'll take your monies if you really want. ;D
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on May 11, 2007, 03:00:06 AM
^ ah, i was about to give you my monies, too bad, since its not worth it :/

Doesn't mean I can't still use your monies >_>
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on May 11, 2007, 03:18:27 AM
I wouldn't exactly say it's worth it :P

maybe not, but the two extra original copies maybe u could give to friends or something.  make them love MM and tadaaaa.....new fans.  share the love.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: linlin on May 11, 2007, 12:04:28 PM
finally arrive.. thank god my friend was able to find me a copy :D

(http://img19.imagevenue.com/loc955/th_84327_Picture_001_crop_122_955lo.jpg) (http://img19.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=84327_Picture_001_crop_122_955lo.jpg)(http://img15.imagevenue.com/loc1143/th_84337_Picture_002_resize_122_1143lo.jpg) (http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=84337_Picture_002_resize_122_1143lo.jpg)
 i think i won that handshake ticket.. did i?
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Blu-Cherri on May 11, 2007, 12:42:18 PM
^is that what that is!? O.O
I got one with my c-ute album! dammit >.<
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: lil_hamz on May 11, 2007, 12:52:11 PM
I think you're supposed to send that ID number via cellphone to the link address at the top. Those who got picked (lucky people) would get a reply through cell. After that they could proceed to the handshake event venue. In other words, no chance if you're not residing in Japan.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Blu-Cherri on May 11, 2007, 01:02:59 PM
^Well I kinda knew there was no chance if not in japan xD
I just think it's funny that they let these copies go abroad when people can't use them abroad.
Then again, if its random I geuss they can't control it.

I can't wait for mine to arrive >.<
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on May 11, 2007, 03:06:16 PM
finally arrive.. thank god my friend was able to find me a copy :D

(http://img19.imagevenue.com/loc955/th_84327_Picture_001_crop_122_955lo.jpg) (http://img19.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=84327_Picture_001_crop_122_955lo.jpg)(http://img15.imagevenue.com/loc1143/th_84337_Picture_002_resize_122_1143lo.jpg) (http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=84337_Picture_002_resize_122_1143lo.jpg)
 i think i won that handshake ticket.. did i?

wow... what a lucky guy/gal, but also not so lucky. it's like having the cake but u can't eat it.  well at least u can keep it for memories or sumthin. like the one that could've been, but not...
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on May 11, 2007, 05:58:30 PM
Then it'll just be a regretful memory.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: dknight22 on June 10, 2007, 04:25:58 PM
i love this single!!
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Koolmon93 on June 10, 2007, 05:46:09 PM
..... This thread has been dead for a month already........
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: chokkan 2 on June 10, 2007, 05:52:55 PM
yes ~ because "we" (I meant me and my dog) are waiting for the new single ~

btw, I got the First Press Limited Edition - CD+DVD Edition (new) and I can sell it with a rip-off price of USD $49.99

anyway, I think this thread will be lock when the next single is released ~
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: RionZ on June 10, 2007, 06:03:38 PM
Well, dead or not, I have one thing to say and people might feel the same.

Thank god I bought this single, and my buying of all 3 versions is more justified, since this is Miki's last single :lol:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: BigDnm01 on June 10, 2007, 06:19:45 PM
not only miki, but yossie as well.  this single means alot to MoMusu and fans, not only being the last of the YoMiki's, but the one that made them the best selling female group in japan and holding 5 oricon records.  lots of memories with this one...
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: RionZ on June 10, 2007, 06:37:34 PM
Indeed, BigDnm01, great way to put it.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Dj-B13 on June 11, 2007, 06:14:51 AM
Well, dead or not, I have one thing to say and people might feel the same.

Thank god I bought this single, and my buying of all 3 versions is more justified, since this is Miki's last single :lol:

haha yeah so very true...man who would have known too  :w00t:. GOod thing I too have gotten this single.
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: polidread on June 12, 2007, 04:55:29 PM
Kanashimi Twilight may mean a sad twilight for some fans (it being Miki and Yossie's last single) but the group isnt called MORNING Musume for nothing :)

there will always be a bright tomorrow for everybody.

and it means we should enjoy this single, its relevance to MM history, and look forward to the next ones too :)


all of this said while quoting Makoto: "cheese in hand"
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Angelus on June 12, 2007, 05:01:47 PM
Eri said that! xD
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Happosai on June 12, 2007, 05:16:52 PM
...all of this said while quoting Makoto: "cheese in hand"

(http://www.filepulse.org/files/132/JPHIP/TEMERA.jpg)


Massive Fail!  XD
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: JFC on June 12, 2007, 05:20:13 PM
^ And yet that pic is epic WIN!  XD
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: polidread on June 12, 2007, 05:46:27 PM
ooh!  :w00t:

Hazy memories !!! i gotta rewatch that english lesson again XD

 :shocked:

Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: Happosai on June 12, 2007, 06:03:08 PM
^ And yet that pic is epic WIN!  XD
Lol! Behold my awesome Photoshop skillz!  :lol:
Title: Re: [04/25] 「 Kanashimi Twilight 」 Morning Musume's 33rd single (promo p.6)
Post by: satan ahh lunn on July 23, 2007, 02:31:34 AM
If it's too big, I'll post the thumbnail xD

(http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5838/kanashimitwilightcomicytt8.jpg)

Seriously, it was bound to happen. xD

LOL, nicely done there. Good Job.