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Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
« Reply #160 on: June 30, 2007, 11:14:36 PM »
I know Otsuka will get #1. Don't know who the others are, but I'm pretty sure they'll get Top 5 like reyfer said.

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Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
« Reply #161 on: July 01, 2007, 01:04:43 AM »
Ohh, GREAT SONG! Good job MM! All singles since Aika have rocked, and I'm glad it didn't stop with Miki's departure :lol: And all that talk about Airin getting all Miki's lines o_O.. all that matters (to me) is to listen a lovely voice and I love what I'm listening <3 Junjun+Linlin combo is amazing too, they sound better than Miki+Aya together XD *runs*

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Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
« Reply #162 on: July 01, 2007, 02:08:09 AM »
good song i liked the style but kinda miss the old fashioned songs still good anyway  :w00t:



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Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
« Reply #163 on: July 01, 2007, 03:55:11 AM »
Hmmm - It's an ok song. They all sound so similar now though. I didn't think I'd miss Miki's voice so much.  :cry:

good song i liked the style but kinda miss the old fashioned songs still good anyway  :w00t:

I miss them to. I want some cheese  :lol:

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Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
« Reply #164 on: July 01, 2007, 04:04:01 AM »
This song is pretty nice. I can't wait to see the live perf. Junjun  :heart: Linlin  :heart:

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Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
« Reply #165 on: July 01, 2007, 04:06:29 AM »
I really, really enjoy it. It's definitely the catchy upbeat song I was looking for from the new Momusu. I'm sure though, that since we've had some more upbeat songs lately... the next will be a ballad. Or maybe some "cheese."  :lol: JunJun and LinLin are better than expected, too. Huzzah!

(But would it kill Tsunk to give Sayu a little half line? I mean, she's improved a little and her cute nasal would've added to the song.)


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Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
« Reply #166 on: July 01, 2007, 04:46:15 AM »
agree, really nice XD

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Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
« Reply #167 on: July 01, 2007, 09:14:20 AM »
I've translated the lyrics.  I'm far from fluent, so there may big some mistakes (infact, I'm sure there are, lol), so if you see any, please tell me.  =D

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The setting sun at twilight becomes lonely
I can still hear the way you spoke
I won't show you my tears, I won't show them to anyone
I'm pretending to be strong

I allowed myself to act so stupid, stupid, stupid
Why did you take your stupid tears to another girl? (I really had trouble with this line, so it might be waaay off from what the lyrics actually are =x)

Ah, someday happiness will come
I'm preparing for a time when we'll meet by chance
Ah, please wait for me somewhere
Good luck to women, the morning sun will rise

Longing for the city, desperate to live
Accidentally warmed by your kindness
I'm getting used to the city and having fun everyday
I'm wrapped in happiness

I didn't notice the foolishness, foolishness, foolishness
After you gave your tears to that other girl (I had trouble with this line, too)

Ah, someday happiness will come
If it doesn't, it's unfair
Ah, until then I'll keep going
Good luck to women, the morning sun will rise

Ah, someday happiness will come
I'm preparing for a time when we'll meet by chance
Ah, please wait for me somewhere
Good luck to women, the morning sun will rise

Ah, someday happiness will come
If it doesn't, it's unfair
Ah, until then I'll keep going
Good luck to women, the morning sun will rise

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Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
« Reply #168 on: July 01, 2007, 10:29:45 AM »
Thanks for the lyrics and translation.  Waiting for single cover next. 8)

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Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
« Reply #169 on: July 01, 2007, 11:11:18 AM »
Dokidoki I have a question (though how appropriate it is is up for grabs)

What are you hearing on the second chorus line...
the one after "shiawase ga kuru wa"
I've been trying to compare notes and come up with my own thing for it but I can't figure out what that line says...

I been adjusting the roumaji and making japanese things to try to figure it out but I'm hitting a wall with that line

Otherwise I've almost got my interpretative translations... the song is interesting it seems


Edit: Got it I think... gomen... just the rya sound threw me off... I'm almost done comparing notes and mentioning what i got different
« Last Edit: July 01, 2007, 11:46:48 AM by invisname »
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Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
« Reply #170 on: July 01, 2007, 11:20:22 AM »
 Shameless playing around with 80s synthesizersound = One hell of a catchy dance song!!! (woooh, where went the :MKgroovin: smiley?)
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Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
« Reply #171 on: July 01, 2007, 11:23:12 AM »
Dokidoki I have a question (though how appropriate it is is up for grabs)

What are you hearing on the second chorus line...
the one after "shiawase ga kuru wa"
I've been trying to compare notes and come up with my own thing for it but I can't figure out what that line says...

I been adjusting the roumaji and making japanese things to try to figure it out but I'm hitting a wall with that line

Otherwise I've almost got my interpretative translations... the song is interesting it seems

Which chorus?  For the first one it's "出会うための準備する期間 (deau tame no junbi suru kikan)" and for the second one "そうじゃなけりゃ不公平すぎる (sou ja nakerya fukouhei sugiru)."  I was going by the kanji posted on JPM (which I believe was copied from 2ch), so I don't know how accurate it is (it sounds right to me, though).
« Last Edit: July 01, 2007, 11:25:58 AM by dokidokisuru »

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Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
« Reply #172 on: July 01, 2007, 11:45:48 AM »
AHh ahh gomen I edited cause i picked up on the sound! I kept hearing that fukouhei thing off... gomen... thank you... there's a kanji list somewhere.. .T_T aiya I've been doing it by ear and trying to make sure the roumaji thing from here didnt' make mistakes...lol

but I do my translations by line so I'm probably worse than you.
I don't know where JPM is and I don't know japanese well enough to get anywhere in 2ch... but I guess I can share what I got.

I interpret the song differently I guess... so correct me if anything! (as I tend to start melding my translations to try to match the song wording and that usually makes the lyrics faulty... in addition to my bad translation)

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As the evening sun sets
matching the isolation
You and the way you talk
Once again my vision blurs
I won't show my tears
I won't show them to anyone.
A strong facade of me

Allowing myself to act like that
Stupid stupid stupid
How? to that child
did I get completed devoted? stupid
Of course its tears

Ahh someday
the happiness will come
I'll prepare for the encounter, its the time
ah wherever, please wait
For the fortune of women
The morning sun rises.

that time yearning
desperately I lived
unexpect warm
your kindness
everyday fun
I've gotten use to the city as well
shrouded in happiness

Not worrying about anything
Stupid stupid stupid
With that child how long
have I been that close to you
Of course its tears

Ahh someday
the happiness will come
Well if its only like that, its so unfair
Until that point I'll go so,
For the fortune of women
The morning sun rises.

Lesson lesson: translating by ear and estimated roumaji is hard

EDIT AGAIN: I'm revamping it again after finding jpm...boy I think I've called myself baka more times than this song
« Last Edit: July 01, 2007, 12:00:34 PM by invisname »
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Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
« Reply #173 on: July 01, 2007, 11:51:47 AM »
Otsuka Ai's last single was under the name LOVE (a rabbit O_o) and sold only 4,790 at #22. Her last "real" single sold 55,362 the first week at #3. (Her single sales have been falling for four singles, since Planetarium.)

OLIVIA's highest selling single sold 20,162 the first week at #8. Her highest ever ranking was #7.

Kanashimi Twilight sold 53,551 the first week. Otsuka Ai sells much more than MoMusu, but more than half her sales come after the first week, so I suppose #1 is possible if Otsuka's song is unpopular and most of Miki/Yossi's fans didn't leave/more people buy because of JJ and LL.
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Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
« Reply #174 on: July 01, 2007, 01:52:04 PM »
aaaa...when will the PV preview come out... cant wait to see them in action ahaha...


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Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
« Reply #175 on: July 01, 2007, 05:16:05 PM »
This is such a good song <3 I don't like her much, but since Mitsui came, there have been so many great songs ^_^

Where is the Eri love though? Why does she never get many lines? D: It's so annoying how weaker singers get more lines *doesnotmentionKoharu* and she gets stuck with one measly line. She's a decent singer and it's so frusterating that she never gets many lines. And I'm beginning to seriously dislike Tettekete because she gets so many lines, even though I know its not her 'fault' she's a strong singer. I wish line distribution was fairer... -_-;

Is there a clubbing scene in Japan? ^^; Random question I know, but if jpop was mainstream where I live, I can really see it being played in clubs - and MoMusu need as many new fans as possible.


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Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
« Reply #176 on: July 01, 2007, 06:36:01 PM »
Kamei needs more lines!!! and tsunku needs to find new girls with strong and very good voices to replace Miki coz right now without Yossie and Miki, Takahashi is the only one with the strong voice and pretty sure she will leave next... she or koharu ^^U

BTW i don´t care if the single ranks #1 but MM is almost a cult group or something like that (for me) so it seems pretty dificult right now.

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Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
« Reply #177 on: July 01, 2007, 06:37:31 PM »
Well, I think it does suck that some people get more lines than others, but you shouldn't hate them cause of it... I mean, it's not them that chooses what lines they get and all.


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Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
« Reply #178 on: July 01, 2007, 08:48:17 PM »
Hey, Tsunku !!!!!!  Let others get more lines !!!!!

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Re: [07/25] 「Onna ni Sachi Are」 Morning Musume 34th single
« Reply #179 on: July 01, 2007, 09:35:32 PM »
Nice upbeat feel.  Need more time with the melody, however.

I'm also thankful for better rips of radio programs.  The ones I used to DL back in the late nineties and early aughts were horrible "Real" media...

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