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Title: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on September 06, 2011, 06:13:00 PM
I've been wondering for a very long time about the lacking of episode discussion in this forum, maybe it is because there is no specific thread for it? Or simply because most fans here prefer the songs rather than the episode (which I really hope otherwise XD)

So let us blast away and discuss Idoling!!! episodes~ there's like hundreds of them!

Though I'm tempted to get the ball rolling with episode 784, I guess starting with episode 781 would allow more people to join in the discussion.

So yeah, Episode 781 guys! What do you think?

I had so much fun with the previous lets compare idoling!!! episodes prior to this one, since I'm a big fan of Slam Dunk and DBZ however ghibli was a bit confusing since i don't watch it. Putting that aside, Sakacchi and Maipuru is getting a whole lot better this time around in their presentation but I think they were more enthusiastic during the DBZ episode (can't help it its DBZ).

Umeko obviously knew what's coming to her

The other comparison I guess are alright, personally I find the comparison to Serina and Yuuna as extremely funny.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: relaxershippuden on September 06, 2011, 09:41:50 PM
i like DBZ,
slam dunk! boring :thumbdown:
ghibli - seems bad, i never heard about this anime.
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I laughed too much with Umeko´s comparation.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: 123SillyBlast on September 06, 2011, 10:30:13 PM
This thread is a good idea!!! :thumbsup

The comparison episodes are not really doing it for me, but that's probably just because I'm not really into manga or anime, so this all means very little to me. I've never even heard of ghibli or Slam Dunk before. Which is not to say that those episodes are not enjoyable. I just prefer other segments.

Among the best parts are Umeko's reactions. She always gets the odd characters. Much to her frustration. :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SomethingWild on September 06, 2011, 10:36:34 PM
I'm surprised by the lack of Ghibli knowledge... It's like the Disney of Japan, tons of classic movies and still very popular.
Check out Spirited Away, Grave of the Fireflies, My Neighbor Totoro... and all the other ones   XD

Ghibli thread: http://forum.jphip.com/index.php?topic=20550.0 (http://forum.jphip.com/index.php?topic=20550.0)


However, the comparison episodes don't do much for me either. My favorite episodes are the active ones: arm wrestle, sprint, badminton, and especially the penalty kick episodes  :thumbup
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on September 07, 2011, 01:25:04 AM
wow I'm pretty surprised at the lack of the ghibli knowledge as well. However I only watched Princess Mononoke and Grave of The Fireflies.

The episode is pretty interesting to see how would the group be without Amimi too I guess. Yazawa is definitely the one to liven up the show with Amimi, the rest of the girls would just sit there and wait for something to call happen or someone to call them.

Could be the gasshukoku fatigue though.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on September 07, 2011, 10:26:27 AM
I liked the Ghibli episode, because I've seen many Ghibli films (and still have a few to go). Although I liked all the comparisons, they quickly went into the more obscure characters... Umeko's comparisons were obvious and her 3rd character was to be expected ;p. I actually found Amimi's comparison hilarious, especially because she had to act out a character she doesn't know at all :). Maipuru & Sakacchi did a good job though and crazy stuff is bound to happen when Maipuru is involved  :lol:

The DBZ episode was great, but the Slam Dunk one was a bit less for me, because I only knew that anime by name and that it was about basket ball, that's all.

It's been said before on twitter, but next time they should let Yurippe & Serina do an anime comparison. Some possibilities that come to mind: One Piece & Evangelion (both very popular and well known).

P.S.: Ghibli movies are highly recommened for watching: My Neighbour Totori (Tonari no Totoro) & Spirited Away (Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi) are a must see.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on September 07, 2011, 12:38:31 PM
I kind of agree with the idea on Yurippe & Serina. I think that both Maipuru and Sakacchi should run out of anime to compare the group anymore already. I can see them comparing the groups to games after this, if they so intend to keep up the 2 as MC. Dynasty Warriors and Biohazard comes to mind. However Serina and Yurippe can go crazy with Eva and Full Metal Alchemist.

I love how they are giving the girls time to talk lately by giving more talkative episodes.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: winner on September 08, 2011, 06:59:27 AM
Seriously, Laputa is where it's at. :wub:
I haven't watched the Ghibli ep yet. need to check it out.

Since I'm into anime, I liked both the other episodes.
If you had watched Slam Dunk, you'd probably have that tiny flame in your soul burst when watching that episode. Probably also throw up afterwards.

While they're going classic anime. They should compare sailor moon characters next. :) Or Gundam mechas. XD
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on September 08, 2011, 09:08:30 AM
There are hell lot of character on Gundam but no member following Gundam, sadly. Most the members read One Piece, so it should be One Piece, plus it is Fuji TV anime. Serina & Yurippe read so many mangas, but I think it will not as funny as MC Maipuru & Sakacchi. I kinda hope Fonchi to join since she read Naruto... 2 years ago.

Managed to watch unreleased 782, the Hexagon paper test.
1. TOP 4 are expected
2. Suu-chan, Kaede, Ruka are unexpected
3. An extremely rare reaction of Hii-chan
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: miitan on September 08, 2011, 03:06:38 PM
What's the deal with that unreleased episode and how did you see it?
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: rurika9 on September 08, 2011, 03:33:59 PM
^seconded
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on September 08, 2011, 04:32:38 PM
got 782 from 2ch, soon on AMP.

Hexagon MC got busted for associating with Yakuza and all of his shows were suspended. 782 unfortunately was a few days after that news, so it got cancelled too since it says "hexagon". and then came news hexagon to be continued, but unfortunately 783 was already airing. 782 never appeared on FOD, but somehow someone managed to grab the video from FOD server.

CMIIW
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SomethingWild on September 09, 2011, 07:23:01 PM
Just watched 782  :thumbup

Man, shocking results  :lol:  If you count 55% as a pass, only one of them passed?!  :panic:

Top 4  :thumbup
Ruka and Kaede's reaction was awesome  :lol: I expected them to be last.
Some of these lower ranking girls... how can you be happy about scoring less than 10 points  :nervous

Quite shocked at the lowest scoring girl  :O2 That's gonna affect my fandom of her a bit  :nervous  :panic:

Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Technoboots on September 09, 2011, 11:17:42 PM
Don't forget Amimi's reaction, especially with her flashing and Masuno trying to cover her up.
Also Yurippe's reaction and pointing out the ages of those left.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on September 10, 2011, 12:13:11 AM
And don't forget that there would be one girl even below Asahi  :P
And that's #2 Koizumi Rumi, she had 0 points on the Hexagon paper test when was on that show  XD

Loved Amimi's & Rukaede's reaction too, but Hii-chan was quite unexpected as well  :P I think they said to the girls: just go crazy xD
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: 123SillyBlast on September 10, 2011, 05:20:13 AM
#782 was quite an enjoyable episode. Good thing, we did get to see it after all. :)

I could tell from the reactions that the scores were really bad, even though I don't fully understand the meaning of this Hexagon paper test and what exacty the points mean. Someone care to explain?

Poor Asahi. Lot's of tears from her again. But that doesn't affect my fandom for her. She's still very lovable. She might not be the smartest around but she's got other qualities. :yep:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on September 10, 2011, 02:46:05 PM
#782 was quite an enjoyable episode. Good thing, we did get to see it after all. :)

I could tell from the reactions that the scores were really bad, even though I don't fully understand the meaning of this Hexagon paper test and what exacty the points mean. Someone care to explain?
You should watch a Hexagon episode to understand but on that show there are about 18/21/24 contestants (comedians/actors/singers) and before the show they all had to take a paper test and all contestants are ranked according to their score on that test. This decides which team they're on (3 teams) and inside that team they're ranked from smartest to dumbest. In some corners the dumbest one has to do things for the others on their team to guess. And the final corner is always the same that starts with the smartest ones battles against each other, each one who has a correct answer is cleared and the next one on their team comes in. Of course, the more members get cleared, the more dumb the next one is :) There are some corners though that don't have any particular order, but since each team has smart and dumb members and usually all have to answer correct to get maximum score makes it quite difficult. And entertaining  :D

In 2007 some Idoling!!! members have been on Hexagon:
Endou: 27 points (5th place, age 19)
Katou: 22 points (13th place, age 22)
Yokoyama (2x): 20 points (14th place and she was 15! they thought 21) & 19 points (12th place, same episode as Yazawa)
Yazawa: 19 points (11th place)
and Koizumi: 0 points (18th, last place)

These episodes are pretty hilarious :)
And to think Maipuru finally came back on hexagon and that episode got cancelled....
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: 123SillyBlast on September 10, 2011, 08:22:42 PM
Thanks for the explanation. My problem was that I had absolutely no idea whether a score was good or bad. I don't even know what the maximum score is. Is there even one? All the members seemed to have some sort of cultural understanding that Fonchi's score was a bad one to have for someone her age. So how is that score related to age? Did the Idoling!!! members just know from experience which scores are within the norm or is there some rule or function that relates the score to age?
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Code001 on September 11, 2011, 12:05:39 AM
Thanks for the explanation. My problem was that I had absolutely no idea whether a score was good or bad. I don't even know what the maximum score is. Is there even one? All the members seemed to have some sort of cultural understanding that Fonchi's score was a bad one to have for someone her age. So how is that score related to age? Did the Idoling!!! members just know from experience which scores are within the norm or is there some rule or function that relates the score to age?

Here's how the paper test works:

There are 50 questions total, and each question is worth 1 point, so 50 questions would be the max score.  If you want to compare it to a normal 100% grade, simply double whatever score you see.  The questions are all fill in the blank questions.  There are no multiple choice questions on these tests.  That means you either know the answer or you don't.  The topics are always related to pop culture, proverbs (ことわざ), how to read a certain Kanji character, Four character Kanji compounds (四字熟語), geography and history.  There are rare any questions that have to do with any real math, although there may be questions regarding what π (pi) is, basic square roots/exponents and such.

The reason Fonchi's score was "bad" was because it was so low.  She got 2 questions correct; a total of 4%.  The paper test is filled with questions ranging from challenging to regular, everyday knowledge.  They claim that the entire test is "common knowledge," but that's pure BS.  They'll ask some bizarre questions that 90% of the people in the entire world wouldn't really know simply because it was a small footnote in their textbooks when they learned it in school.  It's true that nearly everyone learns the material to answer the questions, but hardly anyone remembers half the stuff.  I'll give you some examples of questions they ask:

Question: How do you write the character for "beer" in Kanji?
Answer: 麦酒 (bakushu)

Question: What is the last name of the three boxing brothers Kouki (興毅), Daiki (大毅) and Shirou (史郎)?
Answer: Kameda (亀田)

Question: What kind of highly prized animal is called "aguu" (あぐー) in Okinawan dialect?
Answer: Pig

As you can see, if you have no idea, there's no way you can answer it.  The first question, you hardly ever see the Kanji for beer in Japanese anymore.  Most people use the Katakana form as it's easier to remember, and it sounds closer to English.  In the second question, you most likely wouldn't be able to answer it unless you followed Japanese boxing or happened to see them in the news (although they are fairly famous and appear on TV fairly regularly).  The third question, you wouldn't know that unless you knew some Okinawan dialect, and most people on the mainland don't.

There are also very easy questions on the paper test, so most people should at least be able to get around 10 or so points.  That's what the main deal was with Fonchi.  The paper test doesn't really have anything specific to do with age, but I'm pretty sure most people would agree that you (should) get smarter as you age.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: hellguard89 on September 11, 2011, 04:06:19 PM
#782 was really fun and I was lucky to be in the audience during the recording. Seeing Amimi and Asahi cry makes you wonder whether to laugh or feel sorry for them. Regarding the paper test, even the stupidest member of the so-called Hexagon Family (Tsuji Nozomi, Yamada Shintarou, Mori Kouhei, Gushiken Youko etc) talents who made their name as an Obaka Tarento get more than 7 points every time. For Idoling!!! members to get scores that low really brings stupidity to another level. During the handshake event held a day after the recording of #782, I went to Nomoto and Asahi to tease them about the score :nervous Nomoto said that she will study harder(勉強がんばります) and Asahi just said that there's nothing can be done because she not bright(バカだからしょうがない). Asahi especially should work harder in school :)

For #787 Kaede's message was cut midway during the allocated recording time and they did a retake of her part after the show finished but it looks like they didn't use the retaken part. You can't really hear the message clearly in the studio because the quality of the message they had recorded was quite bad.

Does anyone know they name of the song they played during Masuno's monologue in #787(from 04:19 to 05:13)?
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on September 11, 2011, 05:18:39 PM
Regarding the paper test, even the stupidest member of the so-called Hexagon Family (Tsuji Nozomi, Yamada Shintarou, Mori Kouhei, Gushiken Youko etc) talents who made their name as an Obaka Tarento get more than 7 points every time. For Idoling!!! members to get scores that low really brings stupidity to another level.

Does anyone know they name of the song they played during Masuno's monologue in #787(from 04:19 to 05:13)?
I think the paper has gotten easier over the years though. When Zumi got 0 points, the next ones had 3 & 4 points. And Tsuruno used to be almost always last, while now he scores much higher. Points below 7 seemed to be much more frequent in the early days, but now you hardly see those.

That song, it sounds familiar, but I can't place it...
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Code001 on September 11, 2011, 06:38:53 PM
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I think the paper has gotten easier over the years though. When Zumi got 0 points, the next ones had 3 & 4 points. And Tsuruno used to be almost always last, while now he scores much higher. Points below 7 seemed to be much more frequent in the early days, but now you hardly see those.

The questions tend to repeat frequently, so if you study the older Hexagon episodes, you can find the same question pop up once in awhile.  A lot of the guys purposely study for Hexagon so they don't keep looking as dumb.  I believe Tsuruno said in a previous episode that he began studying a bit for the show, and his scores started to slowly go up.

Edit: Check out this link.  If you notice, you'll see a few of those questions have appeared on recent episodes.

http://www.geocities.jp/tbcwaichimi/hexagon2paper50-1.html (http://www.geocities.jp/tbcwaichimi/hexagon2paper50-1.html)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: 123SillyBlast on September 11, 2011, 09:02:36 PM
For #787 Kaede's message was cut midway during the allocated recording time and they did a retake of her part after the show finished but it looks like they didn't use the retaken part. You can't really hear the message clearly in the studio because the quality of the message they had recorded was quite bad.
I love little slip-ups and bloopers like that. They make the show so much more lovable. :)

Does anyone know they name of the song they played during Masuno's monologue in #787(from 04:19 to 05:13)?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_(song) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_(song))

(YouTube is full of it, if you're looking for a recording.)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on September 11, 2011, 09:24:39 PM
Edit: Check out this link.  If you notice, you'll see a few of those questions have appeared on recent episodes.

http://www.geocities.jp/tbcwaichimi/hexagon2paper50-1.html (http://www.geocities.jp/tbcwaichimi/hexagon2paper50-1.html)
Going through all the results, it seems that from the episodes that are listed, although there are a few 1 points and 2 points, only Koizumi has achieved 0 points  XD
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on September 14, 2011, 10:43:20 PM
I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I was wondering if the good folks at AMP has the Guam swimming pool battle episode? (Yes I have seen it at YouTube but I want the file for keepsake) I guess this is broadcast only and not available for download? I was also looking around for EcoIdoling3 but couldn't find it anywhere, any luck with this one as well?

And lastly, is the DVD Fushigino Kunino Idoling any good? I heard that it's not the typical Idoling stuff, with weird sketches, can anybody upload it also? Thanks!
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on September 15, 2011, 02:51:16 AM
Can't find any of those on 2ch either. Is anyone found something on Share ?
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on September 15, 2011, 04:29:36 PM
I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I was wondering if the good folks at AMP has the Guam swimming pool battle episode? (Yes I have seen it at YouTube but I want the file for keepsake) I guess this is broadcast only and not available for download? I was also looking around for EcoIdoling3 but couldn't find it anywhere, any luck with this one as well?

If you mean the swimming pool battle & basket ball game, I have them. Also got them from Youtube, will put them up this evening.

Eco Idoling 3, isn't that on AMP ? (or have I forgot that one too  :doh: what are the details of this episode?)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on September 15, 2011, 05:46:19 PM
I've only seen the sneak peak for EcoIdoling3, but I think it showed the members visiting the other members picking up stuff for donation again, and then performing at an event outside in heavy rain? I think this was when Yazawa was hit by a mic on her teeth by accident.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Technoboots on September 15, 2011, 07:02:28 PM
Eco Idoling 3, isn't that on AMP ? (or have I forgot that one too  :doh: what are the details of this episode?)

Nope, it's not on AMP, as far as I am aware the date of Eco 3 was the 30th June. If you don't have it I think I've found a copy and am downloading it now.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on September 15, 2011, 08:24:47 PM
Heavy rain doesn't ring a bell, haven't seen it. And I checked, I only have #1 and #2. I think I vaguely remember that the problem was that Eco Idoling #3 was not put on FOD, and only broadcast on tv.. which is probably why I don't have it, and I haven't checked Share yet, but if you've got it, I'll put it on AMP :)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Technoboots on September 15, 2011, 08:33:10 PM
I'm getting it off share, I've already got about 40% of the file. It's in M4V format so if you want I can convert to MP4 format and then upload to mediafire.

Edit: I'm a bit disapointed that the last 3 eps have all been Shinahachi shows, though there was one thing that was worth it. I liked Suu-chan and Asahi's duet singing 'Best friend'. Shinahachi's are better when they aren't just doing their own songs as it adds nore variety.
Suu-chan hasn't been in any eps recently, possibly due to filming Strangers6, I hope seeing her now means she's back.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on September 21, 2011, 07:30:06 PM
Yeah, 3 in a row is too much... I was hoping yesterday was gong to be a studio episode as there has been a studio recording last friday and thought they would've edited it by now  :smhid
So I guess that will be for tomorrow, and since there hasn't been any recordings since TIF2011, I'm hoping it will have Kaorun on it! Then she has really returned.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on September 22, 2011, 01:13:23 AM
I don't think they care about the CS show anymore, the quality has gone down so much that it's sad really. The DVDs like Gekkan Idoling seem to be better produced now. I think Idoling is heading the wrong direction.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hajime_Saito on September 28, 2011, 02:19:26 AM
I'll have to agree with the above. :/
I used to enjoy their show so much, but now it's just shinahachi after shinahachi and mostly uninteresting studio shows.
We rarely get any enjoyable ones anymore, I really miss the days where we got one awesome episode after another and the on demand would last up to 50 minutes seperating the talk segments with the main segments, now it's all mixed up together.

I thought I'd enjoy that latest One Piece themed episode since I'm a big fan of both idoling and One Piece, but it was just all over the place. (glad to see Kaoru back though)

My guess is they stopped caring after Kara no took Nikki's place. AKB has like at least one TV show for each day of the week, Fuji TV should get on the clue bus and start getting their act together if they really want idoling to sell.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Ayabie on September 28, 2011, 05:06:25 AM
Keep in mind that Idoling!!! is more or less a place for staff new to the entertainment industry. We've seen a lot of familiar faces come and go, but there's probably a whole lot more of them that the viewers don't know about. As "Idoling!!!" has a concept of bringing up idols, the same can be applied to the staff. Also, because of the members' different schedules we often see them rush through the recordings nowadays which sucks but I guess can't be helped...

Anyway, I'm a huge One Piece fan myself so #793 was a pretty fun watch. From the looks of it, though, most of the members were clueless despite being familiar with the series. lol. They should've just stopped at Dragon Ball since apparently they won't be able to top it, although Ghibli was a close call if they'd just picked some more interesting characters...
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on September 28, 2011, 01:46:36 PM
I liked #793 as well, I've only seen the first 20 eps of One Piece so I hardly know 5 characters, but it was still enjoyable. It was good that they brought in another otaku member (Yurippe) as MC. I do find that this segment seems more to make fun of the members than the make actual matches :) Serina was a perfect match though in this one :)
This segment started very promising with Dragon Ball, and I think they should do one more and make it the final one, and bring Serina in for MC too. I still think they should do Evangelion and maybe then finish the segment, or go into other fields besides anime/manga.

I've been watching a lot of old episodes lately (as to complete the whole series), and I've seen many segments that were only done once or twice that would be perfect to do again. This is of course recycling old stuff, but it doesn't matter if it old but good and entertaining. Many of these segments didn't even include 3rd gen yet, so it's new to them too.

What I also notice about the length of the episodes, the uRa Idoling!!! episodes have been getting shorter and shorter. 1-2 years ago we had 2 episodes each week of 26-50 minutes, now we have 12-20 minutes and not always 2 episodes. We had a lot of those girls talk corners there, but that doesn't happen any more, maybe due to schedule conflicts. Less effort is put in uRa Idoling!!! but just enough so fan club members don't complain :)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on October 03, 2011, 11:46:42 AM
I'm finally catching up to the latest episode.

793 was okay I guess, the presentation is pretty sloppy but it was alright. I was half expecting Yurippe to be bursting out with more energy but I guess she just got panicked there. All in all a decent episode.

795 however was awesome, its awesome that they are doing things like this to bring the morale of the members up and also no more stupid Masuno dance before we're getting the theme. I feel happy for the girls when the praises were read to them, absolutely amused to hear some of them. I bet that Umeko would be going back real happy after that.

Was really a funny episode, plus more golden Yazawa + Amimi bashing. XD things just never gets old.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on October 09, 2011, 11:00:51 AM
797 is actually pretty wicked no? I really wonder whether did Suu-chan intentionally wrote something which is totally weird as her answer or did the girl honestly think that way. Either way it makes such a great scene

*edit to avoid triple posting*

Speaking of which, yeah Fonchi was purely evil by intentionally screwing up the whole rhythm of the story. I bet that she knew the whole story already. But it was a very well done obstacle though, while it does throw the whole story out of balance but it did nothing to destroy it. That's experience for you.

The same can be said for Maipuru too. The segment is really simple and has the possibility of being very boring however with the proper choice of members it did turn out pretty well. It was a clear mix between the young and the older team to balance all the crazy thing that might occur.

And I also love the fact that lately, the show is extending over to the 40 minutes pretty often. Compared to the 3rd gen era where various shows actually ended about the same time as the CS broadcast, this time around we're definitely getting more content. However it is compromised with Shinahachi.... damn it...
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on October 10, 2011, 06:51:48 PM
Yes, this episode was a lot of fun and I really liked the idea that Maipuru got the chance to produce it. Although I think that due the title of the episode that will also see other members produce a segment of their own. (and let's not forget that this is nothing new, Acchi Muite Pie was an idea from Zumi-san). The gaps were also filled pretty well by Masuno to keep the talking going.
I do wonder how many of the member knew the actual story of Red Riding Hood. It's a western story so it will be difficult for them :)


Since I get the episodes from FOD, I always check the length of the episode hoping that it will be longer than the standard 27 minutes (and screaming when I see a Shinahachi), and I noticed it as well that lately we get more 40+ episodes again. A few months ago studio episodes were kept to a minimum. The last 2 week pattern has been alternating between Shinahachi & studio episode.

(Hmm, maybe I should put the length on J-Enta too, so I could make a graph with how it progresses over the past 5 years :) )
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on October 15, 2011, 02:28:04 AM
I just had to chime in after watching #800 because it just felt like another opportunity missed.

I think they are taking the whole "We are such a hip show that we just can do anything at any time and we'll feature the staff too." thing a little too far.

Now, they could still make the members involved in some way, but having them stand in the background like a third wheel is poor execution.

I really really hope they don't pull this kind of thing in 5th year anniversary special, it really ain't funny any more, it really ain't.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on October 15, 2011, 04:14:54 PM
I was kind of thinking the same thing, seeing them all standing in the back. I was like: when are they going to be involved in this episode? But then it started to get a little better when talking about their choice of side they took.
But I was a little surprised with this episode, it started great with the old member introductions, but the 800th episode anniversary practically ended there...

The 4th year special didn't have staff involved so I'm hoping the same this year. Actually, I wouldn't mind the format as last year with Acchi Muite Pie as it's a great memory and reference to Zumi. :)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: huss on October 15, 2011, 07:01:45 PM
didn't masuno said that they will do things properly for the 5th anniversary

but its still a  :shakeit: to the fans
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on October 15, 2011, 07:46:28 PM
Yes he did, but it could be another "Haha, we got you again! I just said that to set you all up!"

It's best not to expect anything and take what you can get out of it.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Technoboots on October 15, 2011, 08:13:08 PM
I've just been watching the 'Ekiden for Peace', (managed to get a 1080p version of it, 3.29GB for less than an hour of video :bleed eyes: ), and wondering if anyone knows the reasons for the choices of who would do the run. I would have expected it to have been the top 5 but it wasn't.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on October 15, 2011, 08:34:54 PM
I can't quite recall who actually ran the top 5, and who actually got chosen, but they did choose members that relatively ranked at the top rather than at the bottom. So those who got picked that necessarily didn't run in top 5, who knows, maybe it was reallly up to that old man's decision, or the staff intervened in some way. Sakai gave up her spot to Morita due to illness, could that have been scripted to make things more dramatic? Who knows, I really can't say one way or another.

What I'm certain is that Kikuchi intentionally ran slowest not to get chosen, LOL.

Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Technoboots on October 15, 2011, 09:24:58 PM
Here's a pic of the times which they got
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b115/Adamboots/th_Times.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b115/Adamboots/Times.jpg)
The ones chosen to run were Fonchi, Umeko, Sakacchi, Asahi and Kaorun with Suu-chan in reserve it looks like. The actual top 5 were Umeko, Suu-chan, Ton-chan, Sakacchi and Asahi. Kaorun was actually 9th and Fonchi 10th.
I wouldn't be surprised with Amimi, it is the sort of thing she would do.

I'm going to see if I can shrink the file at some point and upload it to media fire for those who want it.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: winner on October 15, 2011, 10:24:46 PM
For #800. Yeah, they could've thought of something more memorable.
It became kinda slow after the nice member intro. And since it took 5mins for the challenge in the end if they sped it up, they could've did 3 challenges after the staff intro. but didn't do that either. ;)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on October 15, 2011, 11:50:15 PM
next challanges are on #801 :)
staffs know how to troll. :))
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on October 28, 2011, 02:30:27 AM
Personally speaking I'm quite fine with episode 800 and 801 for a few reasons

a ) The staff is personally aware about the weird thing that they are doing from the very beginning when they said "Don't worry we're going to do it all nice and proper for the 5th anniversary later" Which makes me guess the 5th anniversary might be getting a whole load of attention.

b ) The girls seems to be enjoying it. Plus it was a good opportunity to sit back and relax a bit, their schedule this year has been quite a monster compared to the year before this.

c ) I personally belief that all these Idoling!!! x Staff relationship is really good and important. They keep hammering humility to these girls by constantly reminding them of how important are the staff and I think it has somewhat formed Idoling!!! into what they are now, IMO one of the most humble Idol group out there.

Maybe it is an opportunity missed, but it seems to be geared towards the 5th year anniversary. So if they screw that one up then these 2 episodes are screwed up episodes XD

What do you guys think about the quiz OO?

I think it got pretty well right after Masuno is being excluded. The questions are pretty good too, I'm pretty interested when they asked about Hii-chan's sharp tongue pretty bluntly like that. Most probably this is going to be a good set of segment to learn about members from now on.

The Snow White, was probably a bit too easy to guess. Maybe should go for a more obscure story later, then it'll be all messed up. XD
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: relaxershippuden on January 12, 2012, 07:01:49 PM
can someone explain me about the ranking in "Idoling!!! 2012 Good Luck Ranking SP"? is that about hand palms reading or top favoritism ranking?
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on January 12, 2012, 08:25:04 PM
can someone explain me about the ranking in "Idoling!!! 2012 Good Luck Ranking SP"? is that about hand palms reading or top favoritism ranking?

It is actually about palm reading. Apparently the lines in your palm change over time, and thus the reading of your palm changes as well. So the better your lines are, the better your luck will be.
The guy is quite a celebrity and goes on many shows to do his palm reading.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: LarcKen on January 15, 2012, 09:27:06 AM
LOL @ that episode  XD
At first i was pretty sure that the whole 10 minutes of that 'off air takes' in the beginning is just your usual scripted japanese TV show.
That is until i spotted these in my second viewing  :cow:
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll311/LarcKen/AKB48/th_Idoling2012GoodLuckRankingSP-20120109mp4_000318151.jpg) (http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll311/LarcKen/AKB48/Idoling2012GoodLuckRankingSP-20120109mp4_000318151.jpg)(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll311/LarcKen/AKB48/th_Idoling2012GoodLuckRankingSP-20120109mp4_000330763.jpg) (http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll311/LarcKen/AKB48/Idoling2012GoodLuckRankingSP-20120109mp4_000330763.jpg)
WTF XD Sakacchi got a head massage from Manami using her boobs   :shocked XD
You get to see Yuuna doing self boob check also  :nervous
Maaannn seriously, these are some of the reasons you gotta love those Japanese shows  :yep:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: b8067hc on January 15, 2012, 04:17:11 PM
LOL @ that episode  XD
At first i was pretty sure that the whole 10 minutes of that 'off air takes' in the beginning is just your usual scripted japanese TV show.
That is until i spotted these in my second viewing  :cow:
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll311/LarcKen/AKB48/th_Idoling2012GoodLuckRankingSP-20120109mp4_000318151.jpg) (http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll311/LarcKen/AKB48/Idoling2012GoodLuckRankingSP-20120109mp4_000318151.jpg)(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll311/LarcKen/AKB48/th_Idoling2012GoodLuckRankingSP-20120109mp4_000330763.jpg) (http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll311/LarcKen/AKB48/Idoling2012GoodLuckRankingSP-20120109mp4_000330763.jpg)
WTF XD Sakacchi got a head massage from Manami using her boobs   :shocked XD
You get to see Yuuna doing self boob check also  :nervous
Maaannn seriously, these are some of the reasons you gotta love those Japanese shows  :yep:

Don't forget the "scratch" incident by Hiichan (also teased by guest) and "weird faces" by Aichan  :D :D :D :D. Interesting part of the episode. by the way 1-year gen really showed their mature by not acted ridiculously.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SomethingWild on January 27, 2012, 05:53:57 PM
Idoling!!! - 2010.07.13 #648  (http://acchimuitepie.blogspot.com/2010/07/idoling-20100713-648.html)
Soft Sub (http://www.mediafire.com/?5wsme4uoj7shnym)

Just watched this  :thumbup

That is one of the strangest/most intense idol show episodes I have ever seen. I honestly couldn't tell to what extent they were serious (Asahi/Okawa).  :panic:

I don't like seeing the girls cry, but it was cool to see Ojima to stand there and smile all the way through the episode  :lol: She is the big winner for me in this ep.

For the final match, I did some super slow replays and it really is super close. If I had to decide I would've given it to Ojima. For the re-match, Fonchi had a false start leaving Ojima powerless. But ok, whatever, it's all for fun? lol. Even so, I think this episode is pushing it a bit. I mean, some intergroup rivalry can be a lot of fun, but I think they took it too far. I know they do these gen vs gen battles a lot, but I can't recall it ever being like this.

Btw, Asahi did have a good chance of winning. It's all in her mind. She was so shaken up after the first loss, that there was no way she could've won the second one. Perhaps if the order of the matches would've different, she would've had more time to get herself together. [/over-analyzing] lol

Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on January 27, 2012, 06:15:55 PM
Yet after that match, Ojima-Asahi-Okawa become best friend. :thumbsup
I just wonder, did everyone also see blood on Okawa's lip or just me?
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on January 27, 2012, 06:32:50 PM
Just watched this  :thumbup

That is one of the strangest/most intense idol show episodes I have ever seen. I honestly couldn't tell to what extent they were serious (Asahi/Okawa).  :panic:

I don't like seeing the girls cry, but it was cool to see Ojima to stand there and smile all the way through the episode  :lol: She is the big winner for me in this ep.

For the final match, I did some super slow replays and it really is super close. If I had to decide I would've given it to Ojima. For the re-match, Fonchi had a false start leaving Ojima powerless. But ok, whatever, it's all for fun? lol. Even so, I think this episode is pushing it a bit. I mean, some intergroup rivalry can be a lot of fun, but I think they took it too far. I know they do these gen vs gen battles a lot, but I can't recall it ever being like this.

Btw, Asahi did have a good chance of winning. It's all in her mind. She was so shaken up after the first loss, that there was no way she could've won the second one. Perhaps if the order of the matches would've different, she would've had more time to get herself together. [/over-analyzing] lol

#648 was used as part of the 2hour specials on the normal national broadcast of FujiTV and since there were many other segments that they want to fit in the 2hours special (Idoling meeting with Terry Itou, famous comedian, this crazy sumo and something else) only a digest of the episode was broadcasted during the 2hr special.

My guess is that, the girls knew what was on the line. Unless there's something worth keeping, their scene will be cut. Between Asahi's hatred to losing and Ookawa's fighting spirit, I think #648 is done in good sport. The opening trash talk was definitely epic and Ookawa's Osaka accent just made her sounded more angry than usual. All in all, the whole scene was used in the 2hr special. Asahi once complained that her grandmother was sad that she did not manage to appear much on Nikki, which is why she is always doing her best during games like this. Same goes to Hii-chan too XD Since not everyone owns the cable channel for FujiTV to watch the CS broadcast or the On Demand account to watch the extra scene, the national broadcast show are much more valuable to the girls.

It is even a running joke for Ookawa and Asahi now, "Cry = national broadcast" XD

Asahi definitely could've won the game if she was not so shaken. She got the skill but I think she realized the trick to the throw quite late. She was hip tossing Ojima and Ookawa towards the end beautifully. She is even scolded at home for losing sumo  :rofl: then her mother taught her the proper technique for her to try for the next event. The whole family has got some really awesome fighting spirit.

I'd love to see Asahi winning against Sakacchi though. That'll be like watching Frank Mir vs Brock Lesnar. Power vs Skill. lol

and yeah I do think that she accidentally bit her lip during the last fall
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on January 28, 2012, 07:40:13 PM
Everyone watched 3DS Sumo Tournament?
The knock-out phase is just awesome!

3D SUMO TOURNAMENT #01 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QYaCvBvlME#ws)

A-block: Tonooka, Asahi, Morita
B-block: Kikuchi, Nomoto, Okawa
C-block: Yokoyama, Ojima, Sakai
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on February 04, 2012, 02:39:18 PM
Umeko gets beaten up by Masuno pretty bad in the 3D Sumo Series  :lol: I guess right now, she is the only Idoling!!! member that Masuno is really comfortable of playing around with. Sometimes it feels like 1st get all over again looking at those 2.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on July 17, 2012, 09:18:41 AM
Need episode guide.
Which episode is this?

Shinahachi live (Hashimoto Kaede aru aru)
ひぃちゃんとしゃべる時だけ橋本さんになる (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyMyKzK-7vo#ws)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on July 17, 2012, 09:39:32 AM
Episode #646: http://www.j-enta.com/en/episode.php?e=1192 (http://www.j-enta.com/en/episode.php?e=1192)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on July 21, 2012, 08:34:07 PM
I suppose I should be happy that Nomoto's dodgeball character is killed off, but I must ask the intention of the staff for even allowing that to happen since that character is really the only thing that keeps Nomoto relevant as a member.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: 123SillyBlast on July 21, 2012, 08:44:38 PM
Maybe it's good in that she is now forced to find something else. One obviously cannot keep it interesting indefinitely with just one character trait.

While we're talking about that episode, her rampant blaring at the end was almost surreal. I don't believe I've seen that kind of thing on a TV show before. :O
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on July 21, 2012, 09:19:28 PM
It was definitely a bizarre scene, while the character part is something I could find amusing, the rest of Nomoto is simply not a laughing matter anymore. I hope she doesn't stop caring about dodgeball anymore any resort to even more eating.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: neonero on August 15, 2012, 06:11:26 PM
#900 was nice to watch but something was missing, maybe the lack of Idoling!!! members.
Downloading #901.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on August 17, 2012, 03:06:57 PM
ahahah skipping the whole 900th celebration and putting on Super Girls whining about punishment game and Fudanjuku + VaniBeans playing with the white ducks is awesome. Amimi was really having fun poking at Super Girls and Idoling looked like they were having a blast too. I'd say this is a fair trade off  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: rurika9 on August 17, 2012, 06:58:02 PM
Nomoto's gorilla antics were hard for me to watch... *major cringe* Though it was funny when she was chasing Bakarhythm about! lol
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: strtl on August 17, 2012, 07:57:38 PM
Nomoto's gorilla antics were hard for me to watch... *major cringe*

There's definitely an art to pulling a silly face and still looking cute.
Unfortunately Nomoto hasn't quite mastered it yet. :lol:

Perhaps she could get help from one of the other members... :)
(http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg583/braintooth/Clipboard-2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: rurika9 on August 18, 2012, 11:50:40 AM
I'm just looking at Idoling!!!'s official schedule, and it seems there's no more episodes listed after #902. Is there some sort of break or haven't they listed the new eps yet?
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on August 18, 2012, 12:16:47 PM
http://www.fujitv.co.jp/otn/bangumi/one/next_week.html (http://www.fujitv.co.jp/otn/bangumi/one/next_week.html)

903 「最強決定!アイドルバトルング!!!(4)」
904 「女の子だけの秘密教えて下さい」
905 「ニコはちライブ」
906 「イーソーシリトリ!!!」
907 「ストレートアンサー(2)」
908 ?
909 「ニコはちライブ」
910 ?
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SomethingWild on August 20, 2012, 11:08:53 AM
I just marathoned episodes 900, 901 and 902... It wasn't what I hoped it would be. They had a similar massive idol show once on Hey!Hey!Hey! (iirc) which had all the members of each group and it was a massive party. These episodes didn't feel like that at all. There was very little chemistry between the various idol groups.

That one supergirls girl was pretty annoying with her 'spoiled kid' act. They got tons of screen time too. I agree with kei, in that  Fudanjuku + VaniBeans playing with the ducks was the highlight of these episodes haha. I'm not familiar with some of these groups, but AeLL looked pretty cute. Definitely gonna check out there stuff now.

But yeah, still sorta wondering why Idoling did a show like this. I guess they made a better impression than some of those other groups, so I guess that's a plus.

Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on August 20, 2012, 02:56:48 PM
^
wasn't that on Meccha Ikiteru instead of Heyx3? That one was pretty fun, but too short.

About AeLL., check out the show "VS Shinozaki Ai" presented by one of the AeLL members, each episode has one of the other 3 members as a guest.

Today is the last episode of this idol tournament, I kinda hope S☆G doesn't win :nervous

Idoling!!! always makes a better impression in terms of variety, they're top!
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on August 20, 2012, 05:39:22 PM
the only reason why it looked as if it runs out of chemistry is simply because of super girls. That Rino girl was quite disrespectful I'd say, throughout the whole show. So what if you have a bus of your own or selling better than other group you could've at least pay some respect to the host. Other groups who hasn't been getting much time on the TV really appreciates every moment that they could get into one and when Rino acting so spoiled I find it like an insult to the other groups too, in a way.

Idoling!!! basically has good relationship with YGA, VaniBeans and Fudanjuku. It's just the newcomer groups that made the show felt a bit out of place, but still I'd give kudos to The Possible for playing along nicely and in fact kind of left an impression on me. Might check them out again (last time i checked up on them was during the debut singles, lol).

Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: rurika9 on August 20, 2012, 07:13:55 PM
Didn't Idoling!!! declare that S☆G were their rivals in one of those tournament-like specials on a different show (or at least Kikuchi did... :lol:)? If that's the case, then it's not that surprising to see a little conflict.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on August 20, 2012, 07:27:34 PM
It's a bit unfair to compare Idoling episode to Mechaike, the scale is totally different. For what they are Idoling I think is a very entertaining show in their own capacity.

I also don't think Rino is that type of person in real life, she was in a character and played it well, if it wasn't for her the whole episode would've been lukewarm.

Super Girls is actually in good terms with Idoling as well, Serina is friends with their leader, not to mention Yurikaru and Ruka are also from Avex and know each other very well. If anybody is an outsider from this ensemble it would be The Possible, but they have been around for a while and clearly knows how to act in a variety show.

Was it scripted? Maybe, because I saw the two Super Girls unable to conceal a brief grin when Kikuchi scolded at them to stop whining and come out to the court. If they were really upset they wouldn't be smiling at such a moment.

In a way I'm glad Maeshima Ami wasn't there because she would've been REALLY ANNOYING.

Kikuchi declared E-Girls as the rival of Idoling, of course in jest during TIF.
Passpo and Super Girls are rivals because they both have the star symbol in their names.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: cicily on August 20, 2012, 08:00:18 PM
It's a bit unfair to compare Idoling episode to Mechaike, the scale is totally different. For what they are Idoling I think is a very entertaining show in their own capacity.

I also don't think Rino is that type of person in real life, she was in a character and played it well, if it wasn't for her the whole episode would've been lukewarm.

Super Girls is actually in good terms with Idoling as well, Serina is friends with their leader, not to mention Yurikaru and Ruka are also from Avex and know each other very well. If anybody is an outsider from this ensemble it would be The Possible, but they have been around for a while and clearly knows how to act in a variety show.

Was it scripted? Maybe, because I saw the two Super Girls unable to conceal a brief grin when Kikuchi scolded at them to stop whining and come out to the court. If they were really upset they wouldn't be smiling at such a moment.

In a way I'm glad Maeshima Ami wasn't there because she would've been REALLY ANNOYING.

Kikuchi declared E-Girls as the rival of Idoling, of course in jest during TIF.
Passpo and Super Girls are rivals because they both have the star symbol in their names.

For what it's worth, I was at the taping of the TIF Before Night Show. Unlike other episodes of Idoling!!!, this one was actually heavily edited. There were even some dialogue in the CS broadcast program that was broadcast out of order compared to what happened live.

SG Rino was definitely playing a character, although she may have overdone it a little bit (perhaps due to lack of variety experience?). The tears when she ate the green stuff for the first time was real, and she may have even been a bit upset and surprised at how terrible it tasted. It was edited out, but after she ate the green stuff the first time, she actually left the set for a long time (10-15 min?) to clean up (or sulk?). Sakuma D was about to ask Masuno to ask the other SG girl to nominate a pinch hitter, but then Rino came back.

After the cameras turned off, everyone was cordial and smiling and talking to each other as one by one the groups made their leave.

If the intention for SG participation was to give them some "variety" character beyond their usual "proper idol" image, I think mission was accomplished.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: elitedx on August 21, 2012, 02:52:03 AM
It's a bit unfair to compare Idoling episode to Mechaike, the scale is totally different. For what they are Idoling I think is a very entertaining show in their own capacity.

I also don't think Rino is that type of person in real life, she was in a character and played it well, if it wasn't for her the whole episode would've been lukewarm.

Super Girls is actually in good terms with Idoling as well, Serina is friends with their leader, not to mention Yurikaru and Ruka are also from Avex and know each other very well. If anybody is an outsider from this ensemble it would be The Possible, but they have been around for a while and clearly knows how to act in a variety show.

Was it scripted? Maybe, because I saw the two Super Girls unable to conceal a brief grin when Kikuchi scolded at them to stop whining and come out to the court. If they were really upset they wouldn't be smiling at such a moment.

In a way I'm glad Maeshima Ami wasn't there because she would've been REALLY ANNOYING.

Kikuchi declared E-Girls as the rival of Idoling, of course in jest during TIF.
Passpo and Super Girls are rivals because they both have the star symbol in their names.


it was funny the first time...it got real old after a while. Show could of been better without the disrespectful character. You can tell she was half serious though, Masuno was like is this forreal? :lol:

Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: rurika9 on August 21, 2012, 06:43:52 PM
Kikuchi declared E-Girls as the rival of Idoling, of course in jest during TIF.
Passpo and Super Girls are rivals because they both have the star symbol in their names.

Oh yeah, of course. Got it mixed up somehow... :nervous
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on August 31, 2012, 07:51:23 PM
@rurika9
As a reminder, next Monday's episode #908 is "Idoling!!! in France"  :w00t:
And looking from the thumbnail, it will include at least part of the performance I think. Well, at least the introduction part as it shows "Nous somes Idoling!!!" on the screen (meaning We are Idoling!!!). Can't wait to see what they're going to show!
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: rurika9 on September 01, 2012, 11:20:10 AM
Yup, I was also thinking about this. I hope we get to see ourselves this time in any clips they show! :D
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: chiuchimu on September 03, 2012, 09:25:26 AM
Need Help!

I'm trying to find an older episode but I don't remember the date or the number.

Masunosan sings with the girls and wrestles them to the ground during the song!  I think he even dropkick a couple of staff members.  He took down Yasawa and Fonchi.  Cheek to cheek sang with Oji against her well.   Oji I believe had somewhat curly hair.

The episode was funny but I can't remember it.

Anyone remember?


Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hajime_Saito on September 03, 2012, 09:58:41 AM
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4352221 (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4352221)

Probably just another incarnation of Daiba no Koi no Monogatari. XD
Think it was during Yazawa and Fonchi's graduation studio live.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Patrick_03 on September 03, 2012, 06:02:50 PM
Need Help!

I'm trying to find an older episode but I don't remember the date or the number.

Masunosan sings with the girls and wrestles them to the ground during the song!  I think he even dropkick a couple of staff members.  He took down Yasawa and Fonchi.  Cheek to cheek sang with Oji against her well.   Oji I believe had somewhat curly hair.

The episode was funny but I can't remember it.

Anyone remember?


I don't know the episode, maybe is the Fonchi and Yazawa Graduation Episode, but i think you are talking about this:

アイドリング!!! 升野英知 OPV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjJEFDZOmik#ws)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on September 03, 2012, 06:07:37 PM
Need Help!

I'm trying to find an older episode but I don't remember the date or the number.

Masunosan sings with the girls and wrestles them to the ground during the song!  I think he even dropkick a couple of staff members.  He took down Yasawa and Fonchi.  Cheek to cheek sang with Oji against her well.   Oji I believe had somewhat curly hair.

The episode was funny but I can't remember it.

Anyone remember?

Idoling!!! - 20111223 Graduation Live - Yazawa & Fonchi Arigatoungu!!! (On Demand)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: chiuchimu on September 04, 2012, 11:18:28 AM
Thanks to all three above.  You got it on the mark.  It was the Fonchi-Yazawa special and the song was Daiba no Koi no Monogatari!!

You guys know your stuff!
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Post by: elitedx on September 04, 2012, 03:04:30 PM
Thanks to all three above.  You got it on the mark.  It was the Fonchi-Yazawa special and the song was Daiba no Koi no Monogatari!!

You guys know your stuff!

check out the the same scene with Masuno in their 3rd live. I think it's the original, dunno. I saw it on youtube.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on September 04, 2012, 10:18:48 PM
check out the the same scene with Masuno in their 3rd live. I think it's the original, dunno. I saw it on youtube.

The first one was at the 2nd live.
This song is awesome  XD
I was glad to see it again at Yazawa & Fonchi's graduation live.
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Post by: rurika9 on September 05, 2012, 01:34:36 AM
Just watched #908, yet again these guys hogged the limelight... :thumbdown:

(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/331/thethreemusketeersf.jpg)

However, I tried my best to locate a still of the front row... I can just slightly see myself! :lol:

(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/5652/frontrowy.jpg)
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Post by: strtl on September 05, 2012, 05:35:27 AM
Just watched #908, yet again these guys hogged the limelight... :thumbdown:

(http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg583/braintooth/id1.jpg)
He's been seen on Japanese TV more times lately than the 5th Gen :lol:

Otherwise I really enjoyed the France episode. Though a 1 hour special would have been nice.

Did any one else catch Asahi sneakily reading off her hand?

(http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg583/braintooth/na1.jpg)

Hopefully it's the French for "number 15" she couldn't remember and not her own name.  :D
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Post by: Hatix on September 05, 2012, 09:52:51 AM
There was not much new footage than what was shown on the CosCosPurePure episode (which is why it's always those same guys...).
Well, in that screenshot, you can see me sitting in the middle with a black Ruka Zepp Tour t-shirt on :) You can see the big 22 on the front, and in the shots from the back, you can see Ruka on the back of my t-shirt and sometimes see my hand & arm waving through the screen ;)

I don't think Asahi was the only one who had something written on her hand  :P (and yes, numéro is the french word for number :))

There is still a Gekkan dvd coming out (in October I think) dedicated to Idoling!!! in France, so we may get the rest of the footage on there.

Still waiting for that camera pan over the whole front row they did just before the concert  8)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: rurika9 on September 05, 2012, 11:00:46 AM
I think maybe they were reluctant to show the footage of the front row because it was mainly Japanese fans there, so they wanted to show the viewers in Japan the French fans, to say something like "Hey look! We have fans all the way in France!" (Even though they were probably guys that were just happy to see a bunch of pretty Japanese girls dancing, who had no idea Idoling!!! was before the event happened...) I could be totally wrong though! :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on September 05, 2012, 11:54:11 AM
I was actually thinking the same thing why they wouldn't show a bunch of Japanese fans but to show that there are actually foreign fans (and it doesn't matter if they actually know them or not, just seeing them excited is enough to think that they are fans :)). Because honestly, I have no idea how many people in that room actually knew Idoling!!!, many probably only knew the anime songs and don't even know they have a 900+ episode tv show (and so much more).

Although I think that the foreign fans who knew them the most were among the Japanese fans  XD
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: rurika9 on September 05, 2012, 12:53:04 PM
^ Yeah that's true. Also you can also see a lack of energy from behind the front row... :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SomethingWild on September 05, 2012, 06:47:21 PM
I would have loved to go, but I got an offer I couldn't refuse which completely overlapped the Expo. I'll never get a bigger chance of seeing Ton-chan and Asahi... Aw well.

Fun ep for sure. Paris looks good on Tonooka:

(http://uppix.com/t-Idoling______20150477ec80010c88f.jpg) (http://uppix.com/s-Idoling______20150477ec80010c88f-jpg.htm)

In that cosplay oufit, I fear I probably would have walked straight by her  :lol:

(http://uppix.com/t-Idoling______20150477f180010c890.jpg) (http://uppix.com/s-Idoling______20150477f180010c890-jpg.htm) (http://uppix.com/t-Idoling______20150477f240010c891.jpg) (http://uppix.com/s-Idoling______20150477f240010c891-jpg.htm)

Mai and Asahi arrived so much later, they missed so much! Suppin ftw, btw.
Asahi looked quite tired. As if she barely slept on the plane and went straight to the Expo.

lol, Tonchan sneaked in a "nice to meet you"  :thumbup
Introductions in a foreign language is always pure gold. Tachibana was really lively.

One thing I don't like is that they always assume everybody there is French, even though people from all over Europe visit the Expo. Aw well.

Was there a signing session too?

Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on September 05, 2012, 07:45:56 PM
Was there a signing session too?
No, just a handshake session. There should be some videos of that floating around here on the forum and I'm quite sure the crew did not film that. So I don't think we can expect anything of that to appear on the gekkan dvd later on.
There were some signed t-shirts that were supposed to be given away in the lottery but due to lack of time during the event that didn't happen.

Which is why Mori-D was busy during the handshake to find fans to give signed t-shirts to that they needed to get rid of  XD
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Post by: neonero on September 05, 2012, 08:08:47 PM
^ I would've liked to get one of those t-shirt. At least I got to shake their hands and to talk to them. :twothumbs

That's so nice to see images of Idoling!! in Paris again. So many wonderful memories. :heart:

Well, I think the audience knew about Idoling!!! cause they were introduced a few times on the French TV channel which organised the event. But clearly most of the people in there were present for Kyary Pamyu Pamyu, to support the TV show and of course for the lotery.

About the 3 dudes monopolizing the attention of the camera, I actually know one of them, and I can tell no one of them was there for Idoling!!!. :lol:
I was next to them and next to me there was a Maipuru fan.

By the way I'm conviced that the girls did a great impression on the French audience, I'm sure their fandom here grew a little after Japan Expo.
The French J-pop chart Maipuru is talking about in the video is actually a chart based on the votes of the viewers of a channel on the French cable (NolifeTV). I'll be checking their rank on that chart to see if there's some improvement for MAMORE!!!.

Last thing, the TV show which organised the event will probably show some more footages soon.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on September 07, 2012, 10:32:46 AM
Question for translator:
Episode 903 On Demand, around 8:53. What was Masuno said?
I could only hear "???? 悪いよ" and then people laugh.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: LarcKen on September 07, 2012, 11:51:33 AM
^ i think it's ふんいき 悪いよ
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Code001 on September 07, 2012, 12:03:33 PM
Question for translator:
Episode 903 On Demand, around 8:53. What was Masuno said?
I could only hear "???? 悪いよ" and then people laugh.

「便秘悪いよ」しか聞こえないけどw
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Ayabie on September 07, 2012, 04:21:01 PM
He's saying 「燃費悪いよ」, which in context roughly is "You're not very useful".

i.e Katsuta was taking up way too much camera time for nothing. :lol: ... Which was true.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Code001 on September 07, 2012, 04:50:04 PM
He's saying 「燃費悪いよ」, which in context roughly is "You're not very useful".

i.e Katsuta was taking up way too much camera time for nothing. :lol: ... Which was true.

Psh, my translation is wayyyy more hilarious.  :P
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Ayabie on September 07, 2012, 06:47:31 PM

Psh, my translation is wayyyy more hilarious.  :P

It would've made a lot more sense too if she really was constipated because I refuse to believe she's really that KY. lol

(http://i.imgur.com/R4w8C.jpg)

Btw, I heard Ishiwatari Mg. is no longer with them... OH SNAP
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Code001 on September 07, 2012, 09:48:50 PM
Btw, I heard Ishiwatari Mg. is no longer with them... OH SNAP

(http://5.media.bustedtees.cvcdn.com/6/-/bustedtees.fb92e676-387e-41f7-96b7-3685b5d3.gif)

She's super cute, and she was probably one of my favorite members in that group from the small exposure I've had to them previously.  After those few episodes, she easily dropped to the bottom.
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Post by: 123SillyBlast on September 15, 2012, 03:16:30 PM
This shocked me a little :O
(http://i49.tinypic.com/vov3oj.jpg)

Also: random cool pose by Hii-chan 8)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: rurika9 on September 15, 2012, 07:41:40 PM
This looks interesting, must watch the latest episodes! Also that pose! XD
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Post by: elitedx on September 15, 2012, 10:22:20 PM
yes this epsiode is one of my favorites now. Masuno's jokes when they were trying to have a serious conversation was too funny.  :twothumbs
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Post by: SuzukiRyo on September 22, 2012, 03:03:01 AM
#915 「アップ!アップ!顔ジェスチャング!!!」
#916 「ニコはちライブ」
#917 「世にも奇妙なアイドリング!!!」
#918 「ぷんすかぷんグ!!!」
#919 「17号ひぃちゃんの目立ったところを見てみたい」
#920 「ニコはちライブ」
#921 「河村唯の前に進むためにはどうしても決着を付けたいヤツがいる」
#922 「変顔王座決定戦」

Shimada D is getting fired up :thumbsup
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Post by: SuzukiRyo on October 04, 2012, 05:37:37 PM
Translator needed:

Episode #917
Around 08:26 what maipuru said?
胸が????ですけど
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Ayabie on October 04, 2012, 07:39:46 PM
「胸が豊満なんですけど、それより多分出てる」
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Patrick_03 on October 07, 2012, 03:19:32 AM
i saw one time in youtube an episode where they play acchi muite pie with the 1st and 2st generation, and in the end they thrown pies in masuno, can anyone help me and say which episode is that?
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Post by: SuzukiRyo on October 07, 2012, 04:27:15 AM
^
Maybe Idoling!!! - 20080904 #395 acchi muite pie. On demand part, Masuno vs Asahi.
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Post by: winner on October 09, 2012, 04:20:11 PM
This shocked me a little :O
http://i49.tinypic.com/vov3oj.jpg (http://i49.tinypic.com/vov3oj.jpg)

Also: random cool pose by Hii-chan 8)
Which episode was this actually from? Thanks in advance.
I don't remember watching it. Which is normal, I really need to try catching up.  :)
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Post by: SuzukiRyo on October 09, 2012, 05:21:39 PM
^
Idoling!!! - 20120913 #912 Amitalk
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: winner on October 10, 2012, 06:21:44 AM
Ah! The one where they go all fired up about snacks and Umizaru. I remember it now. :nervous
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SomethingWild on October 21, 2012, 03:49:43 PM
I've been busy so it's been a while since I watched some episodes. However, is it me or did everybody looks really good in Idoling!!! - 121011 #922? Maybe it's because I haven't seen them in a while and they all grew up a bit. Or maybe it's because there were only eight of them in this episode. Even girls I'm usually not that into like Itou looked pretty cute!

Okawa, Chika and Kikuchi seemed less overpowering than usual which gave girls like Ramu and Nagano a chance to shine too.  :thumbup Ramu seems like a total pro. She'll do fine.

Biggest winner looks wise for me was Ruka. That smile!

(http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/t/jphip13580.jpg) (http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip13580.jpg) (http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/t/jphip13581.jpg) (http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip13581.jpg)

Giving me Keira Knightly vibes  :inlove:  XD

Asahi pwned the episode by being clever with angles  :thumbup She's gotten quite tall yoo, I like it.

edit: One beef I have with the show is the pacing/timing. They spent so much time at the first couple of photo's they had to rush through the ending. Going with one long unedited take has its pros and cons I guess.
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Post by: Big Jake on October 27, 2012, 09:16:22 PM
Hey I used to DL videos from this show from Acchie Muti Pie but I see that site got shut down, sadly. How and where do most of you guys watch it? I like the pie in the face game they play, haha that is too funny. Have they done anything like that recently?
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on October 28, 2012, 12:27:00 AM
Last time they did acchi muite pie was 2 years ago. That thing need extra preparation and time to wash off which might be difficult now that they are getting busy.

With gakikame retiring from H!O, you can only get new episode here http://forum.jphip.com/index.php?topic=33013.0 (http://forum.jphip.com/index.php?topic=33013.0)
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Post by: chrischaloner on October 28, 2012, 10:10:31 AM
Last time they did acchi muite pie was 2 years ago.

Except they did it for their (now finished) daily 3DS streaming show about a year ago.

Someone in Japan recorded it off their 3DS's screen and posted it on youtube at the time. I've just checked and it's still there.

Here's part 1:

3D PIE QUEEN CHAMPIONSHIP #01 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2ifNYGZxq4#ws)

It's in 30 1:40 to 2 minute "episodes".
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: neonero on November 12, 2012, 11:42:25 PM
Just watched episode 932 and I'm a bit scared by what I've seen. XD
North Europe and South Europe. Islands becoming continental countries and vice versa. Countries like Austria becoming continents. Continents like Africa disappearing off the face of the Earth. :rofl:
Nomoto's world looks like the world in One Piece. :grin:
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Post by: Hatix on November 13, 2012, 01:19:10 AM
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Like, you would almost be afraid to say where you're from at a handshake event, knowing they have absolutely no idea where it is, or where it will drift off to in their mind  XD


But you say it anyway, cause that's the first question they ask when they see a gaijin  XD
I still remember saying that I was from "ベルギー" to Ruka, and she going "ベルギー?" (in a totally clueless kawaii voice  :oops:)
Especially when after that, she asked where I was from... XD :wub:
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Post by: neonero on November 13, 2012, 10:30:49 PM
I totally see the scene. :lol:

I would've liked to see the other members' maps.
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Post by: b8067hc on November 14, 2012, 04:04:26 AM
in the middle of the 932 episodes, i've just realized that idoling!!! member sit in front are considered as バカ member  :D somehow I think that Kurumin shouldn't be there  :) she's not that バカ
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Post by: SuzukiRyo on November 14, 2012, 06:40:21 AM
^ You should watch 933  :lol:
There are several levels of baka in Idoling!!!. Even Rurika has her own category of baka.
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Post by: SomethingWild on November 16, 2012, 11:40:38 AM
Ep #932: Bonus points for Kaede for thinking Holland is a huge country in the southern hemisphere  :lol:
She's only the third idol I've seen who explicitly mentioned Holland on TV  :thumbup

(http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/t/jphip13879.jpg) (http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip13879.jpg)

Btw, I thought that Kurumi's map was pretty good? Definitely better then Ami's.


Ep #933: Bonus points for Kurata and her epic 'damedashi' skills  :lol:

(http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/t/jphip13880.jpg) (http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip13880.jpg) (http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/t/jphip13881.jpg) (http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip13881.jpg)

Even the "Ruka Kurumin Daisuki!" at the end was so epic that Asahi couldn't top it  :lol:


I used to download the episodes based on the title/segment, member list and screen caps, but now I realize I should just download all of them. Great entertainment with every episode  :thumbup
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Post by: kei_86 on November 16, 2012, 11:55:26 AM
Ruka damedashi skill is just off the hook. Its compact and a huge slap to the wrist XD I can see that they are going to exploit this in the future and it'll be good for her own personal development too. Kurumin was pretty awesome too, she obviously trying to get away with everything and they were all just adorable. I kind of expected Ramu to be the one who is more vocal and entertaining but Kurumin just topped my expectations.
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Post by: LarcKen on November 16, 2012, 01:08:52 PM
Man, i'm sure Ruka's really climbing up the fans favorite ranks fast with that episode, including me  :yep: :heart:
And i agree with Kurumin, she had this surprisingly adorably dork side of her shown in that ep  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on November 16, 2012, 05:34:44 PM
I already noticed Ruka's potential long ago 8)
Lately she doesn't hesitate expressing herself.
The same happened with the 3rd gen members, they changed when new members join the group.

必死だよww

I guess this is one of the reason why I like this group.
I feel even after the graduation of some key members, the group is still interesting.
Sure there are holes left by the graduates but instead of filling the hole, they expand the field, creating a new environment.
*bleh, I don't know what I'm saying?*
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: b8067hc on November 16, 2012, 05:56:35 PM
Ever since "Baka" title was added to Ruka-chan, she's already rise to the top  :twothumbs :twothumbs, And even made it more funnier in M-1 episodes (Massage theme).

Now that all of 4th-gen already topped the attention..
Ruka = Baka, Yuuna = Funny/gag, Manami = Fatty/funny/Ojima partner in crime  :lol: :lol:, Kaorun = Boring/most teased member (but one of the Idoling!!! cutest member  :wub:), Chika = Nomoto partner in crime  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: neonero on November 16, 2012, 09:34:40 PM
Yeah, Ruka was very funny in this episode.
I also liked episode 931, 5th gen is promising.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Patrick_03 on November 17, 2012, 02:51:25 AM
saw only for curiosity the episode 932, good episode hahahaha  :lol:

it's good to see that Kaede-chan and Kurumi-chan know where my country(Brazil) is, sure brazil is not the entire south america... , but it's a beginning  XD
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: neonero on November 23, 2012, 12:15:26 AM
Poor Reiya, Masuno-san is too cruel with her. :grin:

"Kiyoku-san, naitte mo zettai yamerarenai da yo !"
 :rofl:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on November 23, 2012, 01:20:49 AM
Poor Reiya, Masuno-san is too cruel with her. :grin:

"Kiyoku-san, naitte mo zettai yamerarenai da yo !"
 :rofl:

ahahaha but Masuno is cruel to everyone so its just fair  :lol: But I'm slowly feeling bad for Asahi because her turn is always in the On Demand, too bad for Asahi fans they'd constantly have to get the On Demand subscription. Plain evil marketing plan  :pimp:

Umeko is a freeloader as usual, jump right at anything that's free  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SomethingWild on November 23, 2012, 10:46:51 AM
Just saw the vaccination ep (#936). I think I remember seeing a similar episode several years ago, but I forgot they do these eps.
It's a strange mix between cruelty and entertainment which is strangely compelling. It does show a new side of some of the girls.

Masuno was borderline annoying, but it was a nice contrast with the unenthusiastic girls  :lol:
I was hoping Asahi would give us a "Asahi da yo~" pose at the end, but sadly it didn't happen.

Mandatory Ruka cap:
(http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/t/jphip13959.jpg) (http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip13959.jpg)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on November 23, 2012, 11:59:49 AM
oh and that too~! lol Masuno just keeps on showing how much of a sucker is he for MCZ  :lol: for me what came out as a real surprised is how Hii-chan is afraid of those shots
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Post by: Hatix on November 23, 2012, 01:40:13 PM
^^

Yes, it's the third time they've done this vaccination episode and it's always been the same doctor too. She seems to enjoy herself now too and get more into the variety part, even saying at the end: we'll have bigger needles next year  :lol:
Poor Reia-chan, she really didn't like all this needle stuff. She even ran off at the end.
Yes, Hii-chan was a completely different person! People change when they are afraid/terrified. (unless it was good acting  :P)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: strtl on November 27, 2012, 06:51:45 AM
I think Ruka looked like she enjoyed this a bit too much. :)

(http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg583/braintooth/Idoling-20121126938mp4_20121127_054408367.jpg)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on December 06, 2012, 01:51:45 PM
I think Ruka looked like she enjoyed this a bit too much. :)

(http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg583/braintooth/Idoling-20121126938mp4_20121127_054408367.jpg)

From what episode is this? :)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: strtl on December 06, 2012, 06:32:00 PM
From what episode is this? :)

#938
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: neonero on December 06, 2012, 09:06:01 PM
I think Ruka looked like she enjoyed this a bit too much. :)

What about Oji ?  :grin:


(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/355020oji1.jpg)

This girl has a scrary face. I mean sometimes she has such serial killer expressions on her face. :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: strtl on December 06, 2012, 09:23:33 PM
This girl has a scrary face. I mean sometimes she has such serial killer expressions on her face. :lol:

You mean like this :)

(http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg583/braintooth/oji01.jpg)

Though she can look cute too :P

(http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg583/braintooth/oji02.jpg)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: neonero on December 07, 2012, 12:41:46 AM
Yeah, she's definitely pretty.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SomethingWild on December 07, 2012, 09:58:10 AM
Ruka didn't mind being harassed either, it went on for quite a while  XD

Just watched that "money > love" episode... What kind of idols choose money over love?!
I don't need pragmatic idols. I want idols who believe in dreams!  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on December 07, 2012, 12:07:29 PM
Ruka didn't mind being harassed either, it went on for quite a while  XD

Just watched that "money > love" episode... What kind of idols choose money over love?!
I don't need pragmatic idols. I want idols who believe in dreams!  :lol:

Who chose money though?  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on December 07, 2012, 02:43:46 PM
at the end of the show, on 2 chose love.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on December 07, 2012, 03:33:41 PM
at the end of the show, on 2 chose love.  :lol:

who are those 2?  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on December 07, 2012, 03:50:53 PM
You can get that episode on H!O but if you only need the specific part, I already uploaded it on youtube このグループ最低だな (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEPY81JP3zA#noexternalembed-ws)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: b8067hc on December 07, 2012, 08:45:13 PM
 :lol: :lol: Only Ramu-tan & Yuuna keep their choice in "love". It looks Ojima, Manami, Hiichan, Ruka, Kaede, Karen couldn't keep a fact that right now they "go" into money than love, i can say that most of them are "materialistic"-type  :D :D (Even Rich girl like Hii-chan change side to "money"). I'm sure that when they'll reach adult & raise a family, they choose love.  :heart:

Little bit OOT, but some might say it's true that powerful people in Japan are just 2 : Old Man with good financial profile & young girl with cute & kawaii looks.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on December 07, 2012, 10:35:29 PM
:lol: :lol: Only Ramu-tan & Yuuna keep their choice in "love". It looks Ojima, Manami, Hiichan, Ruka, Kaede, Karen couldn't keep a fact that right now they "go" into money than love, i can say that most of them are "materialistic"-type  :D :D (Even Rich girl like Hii-chan change side to "money"). I'm sure that when they'll reach adult & raise a family, they choose love.  :heart:

Little bit OOT, but some might say it's true that powerful people in Japan are just 2 : Old Man with good financial profile & young girl with cute & kawaii looks.

That's sad to hear, I was expecting some of the senior members to have love as their choice.  XD It's understandable though for them to choose money since they are in the entertainment business. But Hii-chan is a rich girl, I wonder why she still chose money  :lol: I wonder how high maintenance of a girl she is though...

I think that goes for the world, it's just that young girl with cute & kawaii looks applies to Japan since they have a lot.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on December 07, 2012, 11:23:41 PM
The money over love episode came across as a failure in delivery to me, I'm pretty sure that it was meant as a joke, but it just didn't seem that clear-cut, and if people who don't know the group too well take it seriously, then they'll really think Idoling is a bunch of money-hungry city slickers.

Even if the members were being totally blunt to their thoughts, it just looks bad on them, and especially as idols. It's like a priest who has a gambling habit, the two just doesn't go well together.

I'm sure some of the members chose to become idols to be rich and famous, but I think some members wouldn't choose to become idols if they really were only seeking money because idol industry is quite notorious for having very low salaries unless you are in the top 1% of the idol industry. Would Umeko really be in Idoling all this time just for money when she could make a lot more by becoming an accountant? For the amount of work they do, it's a lot easier working at a fast-food joint and probably would make more money. We've all heard about how poor Umeko is, so I am very hopeful that this episode has very little truth to it, and members were just trying to get a laugh.

With the looks some members have, it'd be a lot easier to just date a bunch of rich men and get one to marry instead you know. But who knows, the idea still may come into play once they hang up the idol gig, then their former idol credential would become a very impressive line in their arranged marriage profile.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on December 08, 2012, 07:54:52 AM
The money over love episode came across as a failure in delivery to me, I'm pretty sure that it was meant as a joke, but it just didn't seem that clear-cut, and if people who don't know the group too well take it seriously, then they'll really think Idoling is a bunch of money-hungry city slickers.

Even if the members were being totally blunt to their thoughts, it just looks bad on them, and especially as idols. It's like a priest who has a gambling habit, the two just doesn't go well together.

I'm sure some of the members chose to become idols to be rich and famous, but I think some members wouldn't choose to become idols if they really were only seeking money because idol industry is quite notorious for having very low salaries unless you are in the top 1% of the idol industry. Would Umeko really be in Idoling all this time just for money when she could make a lot more by becoming an accountant? For the amount of work they do, it's a lot easier working at a fast-food joint and probably would make more money. We've all heard about how poor Umeko is, so I am very hopeful that this episode has very little truth to it, and members were just trying to get a laugh.

With the looks some members have, it'd be a lot easier to just date a bunch of rich men and get one to marry instead you know. But who knows, the idea still may come into play once they hang up the idol gig, then their former idol credential would become a very impressive line in their arranged marriage profile.

Well I don't think they are a bunch of money-hungry city slickers, from the way they carry themselves they don't really take their image seriously as some other groups. Probably why a lot of us like watching Idoling!!! because they do things differently. How much money do you think they make a month? I don't think people in a fast-food joint make more money than them.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on December 08, 2012, 01:54:52 PM
It's not too unexpected. Young and ambitious girls will choose money over love. Just ask them at what age they want to get married, most will say 30, 35. It may happen sooner, but that's their goal.
First make a good career, love will come later. Even at 30-35, having kids is no problem.

And about their salary, it's just a regular basic salary, enough to cover housing/living/eating expenses. From what I've heard Yazawa say on a recent talk show, the salary only goes up by age, when changing from chuugakusei to koukou to daigakusei/graduating. A good selling DVD or PB won't give them a raise or bonus. (unless the group they are part of ends in 48 and they're top 16, I guess). They may not get a raise or bonus but it will give them more opportunities if they're successful like what Amimi is doing. She started to appear on more TV shows, thus meeting more people in the business (good for future career), being able to wear different clothes all the time (which she details on her blog, she may not get them free at all but she may get a discount next time she buys sth herself because she advertised the brand).
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on December 08, 2012, 05:55:18 PM
Well I don't think they are a bunch of money-hungry city slickers, from the way they carry themselves they don't really take their image seriously as some other groups. Probably why a lot of us like watching Idoling!!! because they do things differently. How much money do you think they make a month? I don't think people in a fast-food joint make more money than them.  :lol:
I also like that Idoling is more blunt, but maybe they are just ACTING blunt, as many members also have admitted that their character is just for show. Either way, I think emphasizing that they love money is overdone and unnecessary, it's as bad as openly admitting that they have boyfriends in my eyes because an idol is about fulfilling a dream and not about being greedy.

I think they make very little relative to the amount of work they have to do as compared to working at a fast-food joint, the difference of income between those two jobs probably isn't that different. For example, the understudies at AKB make less than fast-food joint jobs. Only difference is there are a lot of perks being an idol.

As far as Idoling goes, how they get paid is different depending upon which agency they belong, in the case of Box, they get paid on a fixed salary, whereas at LePro they are paid by commission. So one can understand why Maipuru doesn't do a lot of side-gigs because she doesn't make any extra income from that. Kikuchi on the other hand is probably making a lot more money now than two years ago, as one-time appearance on a TV show typically pays anywhere from 30000~50000 yen ($360~$600) for Kikuchi's caliber talent. The rate obviously goes up as demand and popularity of a talent goes up. LePro provides housing and meal for newcomers though so that they wouldn't just starve to death on the streets. I suspect that Horipro and Avex are also commission based, and Ogi, Watanabe, SMA, and Vision Factory are salary based.

Working as an idol really is not about money, while there are a lot of perks, it doesn't mean anything if they don't make it big, there's a lot to lose and a very slim chance of success by investing their whole youth. Rurika and Tonchan going to college says a lot about how insecure they feel towards being an idol, they clearly want a security blanket and it's a smart move. It's too bad that not every member has the brains to have that option.

I think a lot of the girls who get into the idol industry are blinded by the glamour aspect of it and don't realize the harsh reality until they are inside the show. I mean it's very tough for these dreaming teens to assess things in a rational manner, what little girl wouldn't want to be an idol? Parental guidance is very important and while being an idol for a couple of years to fulfill a wish is not a bad thing, expecting them to become an overnight star and having a life-long career is quite another, and I wouldn't be very surprised if no more than ONE of the Idoling members make it as a life-long talent in the show business.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: winner on December 08, 2012, 10:08:38 PM
And you can also weigh in the actual experience they get while working as an idol, and also what they needed to give up for it. Many might feel it was worth it. This subject gets really heavy. :sweatdrop:
But, yeah. You could see a lot of them getting nudged by Masuno and voted just for lol's and make the episode more entertaining.
I actually half-expected one of the 'Love' girls to breakdown, start crying and say "what the hell are you all thinking!?!" to move them all back over.

I wouldn't be surprised if they planned another episode to sway the group again. Maybe letters from their parents and fans to make whoever cries from it go back to the Love group. Or at least to take out the remaining two. :nervous
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on December 09, 2012, 10:19:39 AM
Well I don't think they are a bunch of money-hungry city slickers, from the way they carry themselves they don't really take their image seriously as some other groups. Probably why a lot of us like watching Idoling!!! because they do things differently. How much money do you think they make a month? I don't think people in a fast-food joint make more money than them.  :lol:
I also like that Idoling is more blunt, but maybe they are just ACTING blunt, as many members also have admitted that their character is just for show. Either way, I think emphasizing that they love money is overdone and unnecessary, it's as bad as openly admitting that they have boyfriends in my eyes because an idol is about fulfilling a dream and not about being greedy.

I think they make very little relative to the amount of work they have to do as compared to working at a fast-food joint, the difference of income between those two jobs probably isn't that different. For example, the understudies at AKB make less than fast-food joint jobs. Only difference is there are a lot of perks being an idol.

As far as Idoling goes, how they get paid is different depending upon which agency they belong, in the case of Box, they get paid on a fixed salary, whereas at LePro they are paid by commission. So one can understand why Maipuru doesn't do a lot of side-gigs because she doesn't make any extra income from that. Kikuchi on the other hand is probably making a lot more money now than two years ago, as one-time appearance on a TV show typically pays anywhere from 30000~50000 yen ($360~$600) for Kikuchi's caliber talent. The rate obviously goes up as demand and popularity of a talent goes up. LePro provides housing and meal for newcomers though so that they wouldn't just starve to death on the streets. I suspect that Horipro and Avex are also commission based, and Ogi, Watanabe, SMA, and Vision Factory are salary based.

Working as an idol really is not about money, while there are a lot of perks, it doesn't mean anything if they don't make it big, there's a lot to lose and a very slim chance of success by investing their whole youth. Rurika and Tonchan going to college says a lot about how insecure they feel towards being an idol, they clearly want a security blanket and it's a smart move. It's too bad that not every member has the brains to have that option.

I think a lot of the girls who get into the idol industry are blinded by the glamour aspect of it and don't realize the harsh reality until they are inside the show. I mean it's very tough for these dreaming teens to assess things in a rational manner, what little girl wouldn't want to be an idol? Parental guidance is very important and while being an idol for a couple of years to fulfill a wish is not a bad thing, expecting them to become an overnight star and having a life-long career is quite another, and I wouldn't be very surprised if no more than ONE of the Idoling members make it as a life-long talent in the show business.

Really? So who are the girls who admitted having a character for the show? I have to say #648 sumo episode was over the top but I enjoyed it though.  :lol:

In my country though working in a fast-food joint is only enough for the food on your table for the day.
So that's why Endo doesn't have much side gigs. How much do you think she earns a month? Lucky for the girls who are in generous agencies like Kikuchi.

So do you smell a graduation from those two? (Tonchan/Rurika) Since you know a lot about the entertainment industry in Japan I could sense that you live there?  :)

It's not too unexpected. Young and ambitious girls will choose money over love. Just ask them at what age they want to get married, most will say 30, 35. It may happen sooner, but that's their goal.
First make a good career, love will come later. Even at 30-35, having kids is no problem.

And about their salary, it's just a regular basic salary, enough to cover housing/living/eating expenses. From what I've heard Yazawa say on a recent talk show, the salary only goes up by age, when changing from chuugakusei to koukou to daigakusei/graduating. A good selling DVD or PB won't give them a raise or bonus. (unless the group they are part of ends in 48 and they're top 16, I guess). They may not get a raise or bonus but it will give them more opportunities if they're successful like what Amimi is doing. She started to appear on more TV shows, thus meeting more people in the business (good for future career), being able to wear different clothes all the time (which she details on her blog, she may not get them free at all but she may get a discount next time she buys sth herself because she advertised the brand).

Thanks for the info  :) Well at least they are living in a good condition... I thought they were making a lot through DVDS though... 
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on December 09, 2012, 05:38:06 PM
Really? So who are the girls who admitted having a character for the show? I have to say #648 sumo episode was over the top but I enjoyed it though.  :lol:

In my country though working in a fast-food joint is only enough for the food on your table for the day.
So that's why Endo doesn't have much side gigs. How much do you think she earns a month? Lucky for the girls who are in generous agencies like Kikuchi.

So do you smell a graduation from those two? (Tonchan/Rurika) Since you know a lot about the entertainment industry in Japan I could sense that you live there?  :)
It was shown on episode #929 the 6th annniversay, Tonchan, Rurika, Umeko, Serina, Kikuchi, Miyake, Yurika, Aichan, Kurata, Yuna, Nomoto, Goto, Ojima, Takahashi, Tamagawa, and Kiyoku are the ones who pushed the button that their character is for show. (Some members clearly aren't aware that their true personality is shining through though.)

Considering that Maipuru has been with Box agency for 6 years now, at the least she should be making about the same as a college grad in their 1st year at an elite corporation, but I wouldn't be surprised if she is making a lot less. If Maipuru got a license as a beautician as she had planned before being scouted, and worked as a hair stylist for 6 years, she'd be making more money by now without a doubt, hell she'd make enough money to open up a hair salon of her own.

Tonchan and Rurika eventually will graduate for sure, but I think they both like to stay in show business, Maipuru on the other hand clearly isn't as crazy about being in show business, and considering her age, she's the most likely one to graduate next spring, in fact it's almost a done deal according to a lot of hints Maipuru has dropped in her tweets.

I don't live in Japan now, but I lived there for 5 years.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on December 09, 2012, 06:58:49 PM
Really? So who are the girls who admitted having a character for the show? I have to say #648 sumo episode was over the top but I enjoyed it though.  :lol:

In my country though working in a fast-food joint is only enough for the food on your table for the day.
So that's why Endo doesn't have much side gigs. How much do you think she earns a month? Lucky for the girls who are in generous agencies like Kikuchi.

So do you smell a graduation from those two? (Tonchan/Rurika) Since you know a lot about the entertainment industry in Japan I could sense that you live there?  :)
It was shown on episode #929 the 6th annniversay, Tonchan, Rurika, Umeko, Serina, Kikuchi, Miyake, Yurika, Aichan, Kurata, Yuna, Nomoto, Goto, Ojima, Takahashi, Tamagawa, and Kiyoku are the ones who pushed the button that their character is for show. (Some members clearly aren't aware that their true personality is shining through though.)

Considering that Maipuru has been with Box agency for 6 years now, at the least she should be making about the same as a college grad in their 1st year at an elite corporation, but I wouldn't be surprised if she is making a lot less. If Maipuru got a license as a beautician as she had planned before being scouted, and worked as a hair stylist for 6 years, she'd be making more money by now without a doubt, hell she'd make enough money to open up a hair salon of her own.

Tonchan and Rurika eventually will graduate for sure, but I think they both like to stay in show business, Maipuru on the other hand clearly isn't as crazy about being in show business, and considering her age, she's the most likely one to graduate next spring, in fact it's almost a done deal according to a lot of hints Maipuru has dropped in her tweets.

I don't live in Japan now, but I lived there for 5 years.

I have that episode, it's just that I could not understand it  :lol: After seeing clips outside of the show, some of them though are really alike their characters.
They definitely stuck with the path of an "idol" maybe because it's not as repetitive/boring like a regular job. I bet they have more fun even if it is work. As for Maipuru graduating... I just can't see the group without her, she really does look like the leader of this group for me.  :)
So that's why you get the show even without the subtitles, Japan looks like a good place to live though if not only for the earthquakes.  :panic:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on December 11, 2012, 04:23:03 PM
-- Episode 943 --

oh terrible terrible episode.... 941 and 943 are two episode that clearly shows lack of preparation by the staff. It's so ill-rehearsed that even when there are laughing moments, its for the wrong reason.

The core idea was okay, getting the KY girls to mess and fumble with the task given but the execution was really sloppy. It was dull, so many time wasted on... nothing and random stuff happened out of nowhere. The flow was really slow and the jokes were half baked .Compared to the episodes we're getting lately, 941 and 943 is really bad in comparison.

In addition, it kind of pisses me off that Amimi is sitting with Masuno in front and everyone else including the leader is at the back.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on December 11, 2012, 06:32:08 PM
Kikuchi getting special treatment is nothing new to me, I mean at one time they were doing hundred Amitalk episodes that I'm sure the most forgiving Idoling fan was getting annoyed by it. And when it's not about Kikuchi they still give her a spotlight by being a part of the MC, the blatant Kikuchi promotion by the staff is really discouraging that they would sell themselves out to such a degree but then turn around and act two-faced by doing very odd episodes to suggest that they are daring and unconventional. The reality to me it seems is that the staff has sold out to Kikuchi big time, and the odd episodes are just lame.

Episode 943 was just atrocious, first of all when I saw the 5 members on the set I didn't think that the staff was going all out because Yurika may be mysterious but she's clearly not KY, as well as Karen. The inclusion of those two members have eased the torture of watching this episode somewhat because if they put members like Nomoto and Ojima instead it would've been un-watchable but I guess the staff wasn't trying to be that daring. The use of a dog must've been a joker card just in case the whole thing was getting lame, but one must ask how is putting in a dog itself even justify as a viable solution other than getting cheap laughs.

Am I missing something? Is Idoling that popular in the general public in Japan now that they are now focusing on the less featured members and can afford to ignore the ace members now? Am I suppose to buy into this notion that these KY members all have special gifts instead of just conceding that they can't talk to save their lives and don't have the talent to be entertaining in the slightest? Putting a positive spin on the members' deficiencies is one thing, but manipulating that aspect and applying that into an episode for what benefit I have yet to identify is just too flimsy.

I'm not against the idea of spreading the spotlight evenly among the members, but what the staff is doing is negative promotion of the group. They are rewarding the less talented members by giving them a spotlight, and penalizing the ace members in turn for doing what they were suppose to do which is to stand out with their talent. This upside-down strategy is not going to help the group spread its popularity if the staff thinks showcasing KY Goto and Grotesque Nomoto is going to lead the group to the promised land because those two inferior members not only are not that appealing as an idol, their inferiority is directly causing severe damage to the integrity of the group itself. I am now convinced that Horipro is behind this unwarranted push of the inferior members just like how Watanabe agency has shoved Takahashi and Tamagawa down Idoling fans' throats.

Just drop the act Idoling staff, you are not daring, you are not unconventional, your episode concepts are just lame, you are riding Kikuchi bandwagon so hard that it's nauseating, you are the biggest bunch of sellouts I know. Idoling is not going anywhere by featuring KY members with no talent and shoving the husky voice Kikuchi as MC all the time. Hell, maybe that's the true intention behind the formula so that Kikuchi would stand out by featuring KY members who plain sucks, because we all know Kikuchi is only talented as a heckler and would become irrelevant when the ace members strut their stuff on the stage. Just stick to the popular episodes like Onegai Fansama and Manidoling just so the faithful fans won't turn their back on you. And we get it already, you want to ride Kikuchi's coat-tail all the way to Kouhaku or something, but get real, Kikuchi isn't that popular in the general public, she's just not the greatest ambassador with her cookie-cutter unoriginal baka character. Just how desperate are you? Kikuchi is clearly not MC material and yet you are shoving a mic into Kikuchi's face every chance you can give it to her, handing the keys to the show to Kikuchi is going to be the beginning of the end for Idoling, that much I know for certain.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on December 11, 2012, 06:51:24 PM
I found it super entertaining though. ROFL
Serina was a blast. XD
Karen's dog was so funny as well.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: cicily on December 11, 2012, 07:09:22 PM
I found it super entertaining though. ROFL
Serina was a blast. XD
Karen's dog was so funny as well.

I agree. And I disagree with Jenus and kei that #943 was terrible. I thought it was brilliant.

It's quite obvious to me that over the last few months, a lot of the focus of the Idoling!!! episodes are trying to see whether the girls can do improvisational comedy. From the homekoroshi game, to the ending punchline challenge, to that strange episode where everyone danced and had to say something about a member's photo, to today's episode - it's all about getting the girls to think quick on their feet to make people laugh. Not sure whether that is by design, or if it's Masuno's influence (remember, he's a Ippon Grand Prix Oogiri champion, which is all about improvisational comedy), but I love these episodes. While the girls all still have room to improve and they are not professional comedians, they are getting better at their improv skills and their comedic timing is getting better and better.

Although the idol world is so competitive nowadays, it seems that Idoling!!! is pretty well regarded as the queens of variety and talk. If they can also emerge to be idols that can do improvisational comedy, that would be killer. :)

BTW, if anything, Kikuchi is a great MC, but she seems pretty terrible at improv (as witnessed by her uninspiring ending punchline in #942). Doesn't matter, everyone in the group has a role to play.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on December 11, 2012, 08:12:13 PM
It's quite obvious to me that over the last few months, a lot of the focus of the Idoling!!! episodes are trying to see whether the girls can do improvisational comedy. From the homekoroshi game, to the ending punchline challenge, to that strange episode where everyone danced and had to say something about a member's photo, to today's episode - it's all about getting the girls to think quick on their feet to make people laugh. Not sure whether that is by design, or if it's Masuno's influence (remember, he's a Ippon Grand Prix Oogiri champion, which is all about improvisational comedy), but I love these episodes. While the girls all still have room to improve and they are not professional comedians, they are getting better at their improv skills and their comedic timing is getting better and better.

BTW, if anything, Kikuchi is a great MC, but she seems pretty terrible at improv (as witnessed by her uninspiring ending punchline in #942). Doesn't matter, everyone in the group has a role to play.
I'm glad that you've found something enjoyable out of the episode even though what you've described as the intention of the episode wasn't it. Episode 943 is not about honing improv skills, they are showcasing members with very peculiar personalities, thus what the episode was trying to showcase was not their improv skills, but their weird-ness. In my eyes most of them failed miserably because their material isn't funny, and their awkwardness alone wasn't that funny either. And the fact that the dog stole the show.

To be honest, most members are not good at improv, those who are good can also only be described as decent. I must disagree with you though that this improv lessons are helping Idoling as idols, Idoling's strong suit indeed is variety but what they excel at is free-talk in which they can read each others' minds very fast and have good chemistry in having an entertaining conversation that we all recognize and appreciate, the improv thing is a whole another discipline which the members won't be able to utilize their familiarity with each other at all and as you have said it's something that only comedians would train extensively, but last time I've checked Idoling is not a comedian group.

The problem I have with Kikuch is not whether she is the MC, the problem is that she is getting special treatment. The whole inside-joke about the show is staff torturing the members with their sadistic nature, but Kikuchi is treated like a celebrity guest, this hypocritical situation isn't something a fan should take lightly if they stand behind the notion of how the members being treated like second class citizens on the show is an iconic character and symbolism of the show's message itself. I have lost a ton of respect and trust towards the two-faced staff because of it, I really thought they had more balls than to succumb to Kikuchi as they did.

As far as Kikuch's MC skills are concerned, she just doesn't have enough vocabulary to sustain any conversation beyond a superficial level to really intrigue an audience. Just talking a lot and being a gossip girl and blabbering every thought that pops into mind does not equal to being a good MC in my mind. Ever since her radio show has expanded to an hour long, her flaws have become even more pronounced, and as a result the radio show has become very bland, and it has become a chore to listen to it.

I just find it odd that you think honing "comedic timing" is so important in Idoling, when the essence of Idoling's real entertainment value lies in their inept ability in comedic timing, thus laughing at their complete failure of delivery rather than delivering a professional grade comedic skills. So having them train on the comedic skills in turn will take away from their awkwardness of it that brings out the most laugh, making the whole episode counter-productive, and only yielding a very lame content that does not benefit anybody.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: AEUGNewtype on December 11, 2012, 10:10:25 PM
Damn, I didn't know we had a resident over-analyzer among us Idoling!!! fans, those last few posts were intense. Are you actually still a fan? You seem to be doing a lot of negative talk about them lately. I guess I don't think that much about it, when it comes to the TV show, it just doesn't matter as much. I don't really care to watch them all and don't even bother downloading them all, I look at previews and what people say about them and just get the good ones, and even if a good handful of them aren't very good, the great episodes more than make up for it. I value the music and the minutiae between the members much more than the meta-quality of the show itself. When any show is getting to reach 1000 damn episodes, not every single episode is going to be the best thing you've ever seen. While I do tend to deeply analyze music, I don't find the analyzing of every single TV episode is really that important to the group's output overall.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on December 12, 2012, 12:28:25 AM
Damn, I didn't know we had a resident over-analyzer among us Idoling!!! fans, those last few posts were intense. Are you actually still a fan? You seem to be doing a lot of negative talk about them lately. I guess I don't think that much about it, when it comes to the TV show, it just doesn't matter as much. I don't really care to watch them all and don't even bother downloading them all, I look at previews and what people say about them and just get the good ones, and even if a good handful of them aren't very good, the great episodes more than make up for it. I value the music and the minutiae between the members much more than the meta-quality of the show itself. When any show is getting to reach 1000 damn episodes, not every single episode is going to be the best thing you've ever seen. While I do tend to deeply analyze music, I don't find the analyzing of every single TV episode is really that important to the group's output overall.
I got into Idoling because of their music as well at first, but let's not delude ourselves here, Idoling is only worth anybody's conversation because of their variety aspect, not the music. Idoling's music lately has been an utter disappointment, especially since the staff only started to care about promoting the youth with generic songs and stopped showcasing the skilled singing. I can get such music from any poser idol groups, there's no distinction in Idoling's music anymore.

As a person who cares at least for a few members, I don't think the variety show is that crucial for their success as idols, but Idoling has its roots deep in the variety show and so I would like to see the quality of the show to be a little more consistent than it has been, I don't think that's too much to ask, especially given that Idoling staff thinks they are so radical and unconventional and brilliant. But after seeing the episodes all these years, I can only conclude that the show has far more misses than hits, and I don't think you can afford to sweep that under the rug and pretend that everything is ok as a fan.

What is worse is that they are now doing episodes that are literally damaging the group's image quite a bit, that should bother you as a fan even if you don't care for the variety aspect much. I mean you have questioned my negativity as a fan, but how can I put a positive spin on the staff's special treatment of Kikuchi? I can't. How can I put a positive spin on the less prominent members getting the spotlight for sucking? Does that even make sense to you as a fan? Am I suppose to cheer out loud when that fat AD Umematsu gets more camera time and exposure than the members time after time after time? How do I put a positive spin on that nonsense? Am I really suppose to believe that showcasing a fat male staff member instead of the members themselves is good promotion of an idol group? In what reality or realm is that even remotely a valid argument? It isn't.

There are a lot of theories on why Idoling has never successfully reached mainstream, and when you explore deeper into some of the things I have mentioned about the TV show itself, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the reasons. Maybe you don't care about Idoling's success as a group, that's fine by me, but I'd like to see Idoling achieve something more than pleasing a few hundred wota fan-base because I still believe that they have something more to offer, and it all has to start with improving the quality of the show itself, but unfortunately things are getting even worse.

In the past, I would proudly declare myself as an Idoling faithful, but it's not the case any more because what Idoling used to be and stood for is no longer the same today. Every aspect of the group has declined in quality, the music has become generic and boring, the members are too many and too many untalented ones, and the variety is getting too tedious and trite and focus on all the wrong things. Instead of doing another Amitalk episode, gee I dunno, how about doing a profiling episode for each of the 5th generation members, since they haven't done it yet still? Seriously, some of the staff members must be incredibly incapable and clueless to keep coming up with such asinine episodes instead of doing the obvious, and necessary ones.

So what I'm saying is, there's a reason why I'm critical about the TV show, because it's the only thing that has any chance of getting Idoling anywhere.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: AEUGNewtype on December 12, 2012, 12:59:38 AM
No one is "deluding" anything, since everyone has different reasons and different degrees of why they follow any certain idol groups, and we are all different people. I followed Idoling!!! for almost 3 years before I ever even saw their show, and they were already my favorite idol group just based on music and PVs.

In short, I disagree with basically everything you say in the entire post since it is all your opinion, with the exception of maybe I understand that their show may be a big part of what the have to offer to the mainstream, but I kinda feel like its a little late for them to actually "break out" into the mainstream since they've already been around so long, it would be hard for them to all of a sudden be in the public eye and almost no one having experienced their history first-hand. One of the biggest draws of idols is to "watch them grow" as they go along, but Idoling!!! has already been around so long and grown so much that they're at the point where the 1st gen members are going to be gone soon, taking out the whole "supporting the underdog" or "watching them grow" mentality that most idols carry themselves on. You could still technically watch the newer members grow, but I think the appeal generally comes from watching the entire entity (Idoling!!! as a whole) grow from their inception, not just individual girls.

While I feel it may still be possible by some miraculous luck that Idoling!!! actually becomes the new front-runner of idols in Japan after the fall of AKB, it is extremely unlikely, almost to the point where I don't know if its even worth trying. I would love to see them get big and actually make some kind of bigger cultural impact, but on the other hand, when groups get that big, they end up getting over-exposed and usually crash a lot harder in the end.  AKB and H!P have already gotten super popular and over-exposed and H!P already crashed really hard, basically now being at the same level as Idoling!!! where they only have a pretty small amount of devoted fans and I think AKB is heading that way really soon.

Though, even beyond that, I don't actually believe that the same trend is going to continue as strongly, I feel like after AKB crashes, Japan in general might just go through a lull of idols and be really tired of them in general for a few years.  While idols have never really been completely gone from Japanese pop culture, there are periods where they are not much more than an underground or niche interest and don't have much public face or interest.

Idoling also isn't doing any of the "parlor tricks" as I call them, of what AKB does.  They don't go out of their way to do things that shock people, provide fan-service, or cause controversy.  They do things that are outside the typical idol mold or "outside the box" if you will, but they don't have that same level of attention-getting that AKB goes out of their way to have.

It sounds a lot like you're really unhappy that your favorite members aren't getting much exposure on the show and they are varying the focus of the show pretty often, but if it didn't have variety, then how could it still be called a "variety show?" I feel like they are still at the same level of quality as they have been for years and don't feel any kind of "great decline" as you've described.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on December 12, 2012, 02:13:36 AM
You may say that how I feel about the status of the group is only my opinion, but the observations that I have based my opinion on is also reality, so my opinion is not baseless, and so far I have yet to see any other hypothesis that stands more true against reality.

I have to disagree on your sentiment that Idoling has been around for too long for new fans to follow, because I myself have followed only since 3rd generation and I still got myself hooked so to speak, and there are plenty of fans who got into it from 4th generation as well as 5th generation, granted the number of fans may not be many, but Idoling never had gigantic amount of fan base to begin with. Knowing that I've been a fan for a while it might seem like the value and presence of 1st generation members are paramount and rightfully so, but to a new fan it might not matter as much because it's kind of hard to care about a member you never had the chance to know about so maybe such fans will think of 3rd generation as their primary generation to relate to. As far as appeal as an entire entity goes, I used to care as a group but not anymore because there are too many members now, and it's a bit weird to consider them in the same boat because they didn't join the group all at the same time. There's already an artificial form of segregation between different generations, and at different stages of growth phase as idols, so it would be unjust to see them under the same light.

Nobody's asking Idoling to equal or surpass AKB here, there's not going to be another AKB for a long time, all I'm saying is Idoling has more potential than just being a niche group. The way things are going though, it's far more likely that individual members will break out before the entire group does, such as how Kikuchi has done, I mean who in their right mind ever thought that Kikuchi would be the first one to break out before it happened? Not many I would say, so anything is possible, and knowing that there are members who are far more talented than Kikuchi in the group, I like my chances.

Yeah, there are negatives to being over-exposed without a doubt, but that's not for the fans to decide, Idoling members want to be more popular, shouldn't you support their determination instead of playing around with what I'd call a loser mentality of being content of not being popular for fearing what being popular may bring? Honestly, I'm not really that concerned about gaining popularity, I just think Idoling has more to offer than being stuck as a niche group.

You mentioned about HP being over-exposed, but would they even be around still if they weren't over exposed in the first place? Your argument that the glass half empty is just as good as glass half full is a totally illogical thinking, that's the equivalent of saying 2nd place is as good as 1st place, no it isn't. Being 2nd place may bring good enough things, but it's still not going to be as good as what being 1st place would bring, the negatives of being 1st still far outweigh the positives of being 2nd place by a million miles.

Your statement that Japan will get tired of idols after AKB is pure speculation, has no basis in reality, and not good enough reason to be content with where Idoling is right now.

I have to disagree about Idoling not adopting AKB tactics, c'mon, Idoling does individual hand-shake events too, sure they don't go all out like AKB does, but just stop pretending that Idoling is innocent in that regard, they are not. I'm not criticizing them about it though, hand-shake has become a standard practice now for any idol groups, I can only curse AKB for it.

Wrong again, my favorite members are getting plenty of spotlight, like I said in the other post, Kaede, Yuna, and Asahi gets to sing a coupling song in a new single, I should be thrilled because they are my favorites, but I'm not because deep inside I know that they are not the best representation of the group's singing talent. My criticism of the group does not stem from such selfish reasons.

Can you really say with a straight face that 4th generation is just as good at variety than 2nd or 3rd are? I really can't, thus there's a significant decline in quality as far as variety goes. 4th generation has been doing absolutely nothing for the first 2 years, and finally in their 3rd year Yuna and Ruka is slowly developing into something decent.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: AEUGNewtype on December 12, 2012, 03:17:02 AM
You may say that how I feel about the status of the group is only my opinion, but the observations that I have based my opinion on is also reality, so my opinion is not baseless, and so far I have yet to see any other hypothesis that stands more true against reality.
Not saying your opinion is baseless, but you are claiming it in a very "matter-of-fact" manner and its pretty off-putting.

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Yeah, there are negatives to being over-exposed without a doubt, but that's not for the fans to decide, Idoling members want to be more popular, shouldn't you support their determination instead of playing around with what I'd call a loser mentality of being content of not being popular for fearing what being popular may bring? Honestly, I'm not really that concerned about gaining popularity, I just think Idoling has more to offer than being stuck as a niche group.
Dunno, I'm just kinda fine with the level they're at now, even though it could be cool to see the results of them getting more popular, it seems to have completely ruined the AKB family for me lately and ruined H!P for me years ago.  More exposure means more strict guidelines of how to act, also more public attention which causes more criticism and more potential for scandal, which is something I just really think Idoling!!! doesn't need. I feel as soon as AKB and H!P hit their peak in popularity, the members just started to get less and less interesting and just be more of a "presentable" or generic, clean-cut idol, which is just dreadfully boring, and I just don't want to see the same thing happen to Idoling.  Its more painful to watch people you used to love following turn into mere shadows of their former selves just for the sake of money and popularity. If it happens by natural course, then it just happens, but if it coincides with a breakout amount of popularity, its kinda hard to respect that.

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You mentioned about HP being over-exposed, but would they even be around still if they weren't over exposed in the first place? Your argument that the glass half empty is just as good as glass half full is a totally illogical thinking, that's the equivalent of saying 2nd place is as good as 1st place, no it isn't. Being 2nd place may bring good enough things, but it's still not going to be as good as what being 1st place would bring, the negatives of being 1st still far outweigh the positives of being 2nd place by a million miles.
No one can really say what the fate of H!P would've been if they hadn't gotten massively popular, but if you compare that to Idoling!!!, H!P got ragingly popular just 2 short years after they debuted (and AKB about 4 years after debut) but H!P's popularity was all but gone by about 4 years after they exploded. Idoling is already over 6 years and have been at almost the same level of popularity for most of that time, and have had their own niche throughout, and are still around, despite never getting ragingly pouplar.

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Your statement that Japan will get tired of idols after AKB is pure speculation, has no basis in reality, and not good enough reason to be content with where Idoling is right now.
I didn't claim it to be anything more than speculation just based on my knowledge and previous history with the idol industry, and is my opinion. Whether its a reason to be content or not is also just your opinion.

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I have to disagree about Idoling not adopting AKB tactics, c'mon, Idoling does individual hand-shake events too, sure they don't go all out like AKB does, but just stop pretending that Idoling is innocent in that regard, they are not. I'm not criticizing them about it though, hand-shake has become a standard practice now for any idol groups, I can only curse AKB for it.
I said nothing of the sort about handshake events and whatever, I was merely referring to the risque imagery, really suggestive lyrics, PVs, and song titles, a lot of the things I just see as really tacky and going out of their way to get attention.

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Can you really say with a straight face that 4th generation is just as good at variety than 2nd or 3rd are? I really can't, thus there's a significant decline in quality as far as variety goes. 4th generation has been doing absolutely nothing for the first 2 years, and finally in their 3rd year Yuna and Ruka is slowly developing into something decent.
Again, I don't really pay that much attention to the variety aspect of what they do compared to the other aspects, and I'm honestly fairly entertained by almost all of the girls in some degree, though obviously some to more degrees than others. This isn't a contest between which members are better than others, they all exist as a unit and I'm pretty happy with how they've endured and turned out even with the addition and loss of members.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on December 12, 2012, 03:51:45 AM
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Am I missing something? Is Idoling that popular in the general public in Japan now that they are now focusing on the less featured members and can afford to ignore the ace members now? Am I suppose to buy into this notion that these KY members all have special gifts instead of just conceding that they can't talk to save their lives and don't have the talent to be entertaining in the slightest? Putting a positive spin on the members' deficiencies is one thing, but manipulating that aspect and applying that into an episode for what benefit I have yet to identify is just too flimsy.

I'm not against the idea of spreading the spotlight evenly among the members, but what the staff is doing is negative promotion of the group. They are rewarding the less talented members by giving them a spotlight, and penalizing the ace members in turn for doing what they were suppose to do which is to stand out with their talent. This upside-down strategy is not going to help the group spread its popularity if the staff thinks showcasing KY Goto and Grotesque Nomoto is going to lead the group to the promised land because those two inferior members not only are not that appealing as an idol, their inferiority is directly causing severe damage to the integrity of the group itself. I am now convinced that Horipro is behind this unwarranted push of the inferior members just like how Watanabe agency has shoved Takahashi and Tamagawa down Idoling fans' throats.

Now now, focusing on the ace member of the group would be the same as the Kikuchi treatment wouldn't it? Idoling!!! is fine even with spreading the spotlight to every members that they have or "letting the sucky members suck" in fact that's what made them enjoyable so far. Other idol group TV shows would just focus on the ace so much that the minor members get left out a lot and that is extremely frustrating as a fan especially when you're the kind that would root for the underdog. In fact if Idoling!!! indeed just focus on the ace, I'd have quit watching the show already. 2 years ago we had the explosion of the itadakimasu quiz (too much Kaede/Suu), last year was Sumo (too much asahi/ookawa/chika) and this year Ami Talk (obviously Amimi) while without a doubt all 3 segments are really fun but too much of them just screw up other members. 943, despite its shortcomings of being very bad planned, features members that you just don't see talking often and for that I'm really grateful. Serina basically spoke for the year's worth of sentence in that episode alone and she was the only saving grace of the episode.

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It's quite obvious to me that over the last few months, a lot of the focus of the Idoling!!! episodes are trying to see whether the girls can do improvisational comedy. From the homekoroshi game, to the ending punchline challenge, to that strange episode where everyone danced and had to say something about a member's photo, to today's episode - it's all about getting the girls to think quick on their feet to make people laugh

Like I said, 943 had a good concept but the execution was terrible. Everything was all over the place, its pretty chaotic. Homekoroshi and the dance episode are awesome because it is not as cluttered as this one. While all 3 had the girls to work on some joke on the spot, homekoroshi and the dance had a better tempo and flow since they know when is their turn coming. Now, what I really find it lacking this time around is, since the theme is 1-shot gag / monomane, don't they have a rehearsal or pre-show discussion before hand? These 5 girls are definitely not Idoling!!!'s best member when it comes to gags but a little help before the show would be a lot better. I'm guessing that this is recorded on the same day as 941 (another ill rehearsed show. It could've been a whole lot better if it doesn't look like the girl totally messed up. I guess only Ramu and Kurumin that really spent time practising their presentation that day). Since this is not a dokkiri episode, I was expecting a little bit better structured show overall for 943.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on December 12, 2012, 04:34:13 AM
Dunno, I'm just kinda fine with the level they're at now, even though it could be cool to see the results of them getting more popular, it seems to have completely ruined the AKB family for me lately and ruined H!P for me years ago.  More exposure means more strict guidelines of how to act, also more public attention which causes more criticism and more potential for scandal, which is something I just really think Idoling!!! doesn't need. I feel as soon as AKB and H!P hit their peak in popularity, the members just started to get less and less interesting and just be more of a "presentable" or generic, clean-cut idol, which is just dreadfully boring, and I just don't want to see the same thing happen to Idoling.  Its more painful to watch people you used to love following turn into mere shadows of their former selves just for the sake of money and popularity. If it happens by natural course, then it just happens, but if it coincides with a breakout amount of popularity, its kinda hard to respect that.
But don't you realize that corruption is taking place inside Idoling even without the popularity? Haven't you noticed that Kikuchi is acting like she owns the show? And the staff is sucking her butt real hard? At current state of things, Idoling will only self-destruct. More members need to go out and make it as well so that Kikuchi would be put back into a spot where she belongs, and be under control. Idoling is already at a place where they can't go back to being this anonymous happy go lucky group you dream of. Watanabe agency is shoving Takahashi and Tamagawa down our throats whether we like it or not, Maipuru is slowly being phased out for her age and even with her amazing vocals, she was never given a chance to shine as a solo in any of the Idoling songs for reasons unknown. KY Goto and Grotesque Nomoto are kept pushed to the spotlight they don't deserve by the pressures from Horipro the almighty bully agency. You see, Idoling is already deep inside a corporate agenda cesspool and corrupting away slowly but steadily, so might as well see Idoling have their moment in the sun before all is but lost.

While I know where you are coming from, I think you are also focusing way too much on the negatives. Surely, some members might not be able to resist the temptations of going bad by becoming popular, but if 3, or 4 members can achieve the highest of their goals in show business simultaneously, I'll gladly take that deal in a heartbeat, it's 100 million times better than seeing all of them become nothing and be forgotten forever in my memories as an idol group that had it all but never quite made it.

No one can really say what the fate of H!P would've been if they hadn't gotten massively popular, but if you compare that to Idoling!!!, H!P got ragingly popular just 2 short years after they debuted (and AKB about 4 years after debut) but H!P's popularity was all but gone by about 4 years after they exploded. Idoling is already over 6 years and have been at almost the same level of popularity for most of that time, and have had their own niche throughout, and are still around, despite never getting ragingly pouplar.
It's really hard to fathom that HP would have turned out better if they didn't hit mainstream as you are suggesting. Even in their down-cycle, Morning Musume alone is still selling more CDs than Idoling ever could, what more proof do you need to understand that going mainstream is simply better? Are you really satisfied with Idoling's place in the industry of being anonymous and being nothing for most people in general public? I also like to let you know that Idoling still exist not because they are good enough in popularity, but because of their unique arrangement with FujiTV, and a dedicated man in charge with some corporate muscle, otherwise Idoling would've been gone a while ago. Staying status quo for Idoling is not an option anymore, they have to become more established in the mainstream otherwise FujiTV who is suffering from a bad economy will think twice of keeping Idoling on board.

I didn't claim it to be anything more than speculation just based on my knowledge and previous history with the idol industry, and is my opinion. Whether its a reason to be content or not is also just your opinion.
I was just suggesting that that's what you meant, I never took a position of being content, that's why I'm arguing with you.

I said nothing of the sort about handshake events and whatever, I was merely referring to the risque imagery, really suggestive lyrics, PVs, and song titles, a lot of the things I just see as really tacky and going out of their way to get attention.
But that has been the staple of AKB from the beginning. It was in fact worse before they became mainstream, they were having raffles for the fans at the theater for these exclusive events where you get to bowl with the AKB members, and go on a boat cruise with AKB members. Things have toned down after they went mainstream because there would be too many jealous fans crying foul.

Going back to your point, hasn't Idolinig done a very skimpy PV in tight black shorts and t-shirt just recently? I find it just as tacky and commercialized than their earlier work, let's face it man, Idoling is becoming corrupt no matter what, might as well taste some success.

Again, I don't really pay that much attention to the variety aspect of what they do compared to the other aspects, and I'm honestly fairly entertained by almost all of the girls in some degree, though obviously some to more degrees than others. This isn't a contest between which members are better than others, they all exist as a unit and I'm pretty happy with how they've endured and turned out even with the addition and loss of members.
Well it kind of is a competition, because outside Idoling, they are rivals. So if they can't even manage to stand out in a certain group like Idoling, who is going to have trust in them that they would be successful as a solo act? The lack of quality not only hurts the said member, but those around them in that they also don't grow and develop as much as they should. I think you are fortunate to not pay as much attention to the TV show, because it would be crystal clear as to how much 4th generation has dragged the whole group down in their first 2 years, I have no doubt in my mind that Idoling has totally missed out on breaking out into the mainstream during that 2 year window because of the speed bumps that 4th generation was.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on December 12, 2012, 04:59:05 AM
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Am I missing something? Is Idoling that popular in the general public in Japan now that they are now focusing on the less featured members and can afford to ignore the ace members now? Am I suppose to buy into this notion that these KY members all have special gifts instead of just conceding that they can't talk to save their lives and don't have the talent to be entertaining in the slightest? Putting a positive spin on the members' deficiencies is one thing, but manipulating that aspect and applying that into an episode for what benefit I have yet to identify is just too flimsy.

I'm not against the idea of spreading the spotlight evenly among the members, but what the staff is doing is negative promotion of the group. They are rewarding the less talented members by giving them a spotlight, and penalizing the ace members in turn for doing what they were suppose to do which is to stand out with their talent. This upside-down strategy is not going to help the group spread its popularity if the staff thinks showcasing KY Goto and Grotesque Nomoto is going to lead the group to the promised land because those two inferior members not only are not that appealing as an idol, their inferiority is directly causing severe damage to the integrity of the group itself. I am now convinced that Horipro is behind this unwarranted push of the inferior members just like how Watanabe agency has shoved Takahashi and Tamagawa down Idoling fans' throats.

Now now, focusing on the ace member of the group would be the same as the Kikuchi treatment wouldn't it? Idoling!!! is fine even with spreading the spotlight to every members that they have or "letting the sucky members suck" in fact that's what made them enjoyable so far. Other idol group TV shows would just focus on the ace so much that the minor members get left out a lot and that is extremely frustrating as a fan especially when you're the kind that would root for the underdog. In fact if Idoling!!! indeed just focus on the ace, I'd have quit watching the show already. 2 years ago we had the explosion of the itadakimasu quiz (too much Kaede/Suu), last year was Sumo (too much asahi/ookawa/chika) and this year Ami Talk (obviously Amimi) while without a doubt all 3 segments are really fun but too much of them just screw up other members. 943, despite its shortcomings of being very bad planned, features members that you just don't see talking often and for that I'm really grateful. Serina basically spoke for the year's worth of sentence in that episode alone and she was the only saving grace of the episode.
Since when did Kikuchi become an ace member? Sure, the staff is sucking up to her like crazy, but when has she earned her ace spot INSIDE Idoling? She never did. She got into mainstream with her solo work and is using that as leverage to have her way on Idoling now, that is pure garbage. Before she got into mainstream, she was a heckler who had just as same amount of face time as Sakai did, she was never one of the most popular members within the group to begin with. You must be joking if the amount of exposure Kikuchi got with Amitalk is the same as Itadakimasu quiz and Sumo wrestling episodes, which at best that I could recall merely got 2 to 3 episodes tops and it's not just about Morita and Kaede, nor was it only about Asahi and Okawa. I actually counted the number of Amitalk episodes because I was so fed up with it but wanted to make sure it wasn't just my imagination, they had TWELVE Amitalk episodes, TWELVE, 12!!!!!!! All that to some middle of the popularity member who never proved her ace-worthiness inside the group. You should lose interest in the group if all you care about is inferior members getting the spotlight over ace members, that just doesn't register as a logical nor rational reasoning.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: strtl on December 12, 2012, 06:20:24 AM
While I know where you are coming from, I think you are also focusing way too much on the negatives.

With the greatest respect, this could equally sum up my feelings while reading your own posts. :) :nervous

they had TWELVE Amitalk episodes, TWELVE, 12!!!!!!!

I think the reason there are so many Amitalk episodes is partly because they provide a good framework for members to talk about themselves. Kikuchi may stand in a prominent position and have her name in the show title, but it's other members who get the most screen time on those episodes. Kikuchi merely acts as an intermediate between Masuno and the other members. For instance, in #828 It's Sakacchi and Umeko who star in the first segment because of their bento-stealing antics and Asahi in the last part because of her all-round niceness to other members. I don't think Kikuchi ever tries to steal the limelight. At least not on the Amitalk shows.


Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on December 12, 2012, 06:51:42 AM
With the greatest respect, this could equally sum up my feelings while reading your own posts. :) :nervous
Point taken, but ultimately my criticism is a more accurate indicator of Idoling's state of things, otherwise they wouldn't be anonymous and unknown in the mainstream still. I at least have a positive mindset that Idoling has more to offer instead of settling for what they are as is.

I think the reason there are so many Amitalk episodes is partly because they provide a good framework for members to talk about themselves. Kikuchi may stand in a prominent position and have her name in the show title, but it's other members who get the most screen time on those episodes. Kikuchi merely acts as an intermediate between Masuno and the other members. For instance, in #828 It's Sakacchi and Umeko who star in the first segment because of their bento-stealing antics and Asahi in the last part because of her all-round niceness to other members. I don't think Kikuchi ever tries to steal the limelight. At least not on the Amitalk shows.
That's a nice spin on it to deflect Kikuchi's power-play on the show, but it's still quite evident that Kikuchi gets the spotlight a fair amount by being the MC regardless, and whether people think Kikuchi is an ace member or not, 12 episodes in her name is FREAKING TOO MUCH any way you look at it. Plus Kikuchi is an atrocious MC, even the comments she makes as an MC as if she's superior and talking down to the other members was very unpleasant to watch. Putting Kikuchi on a different plateau as the staff has done is not going to be good for the balance of the show, this is much clear.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: AEUGNewtype on December 12, 2012, 07:39:35 AM
Man, your posts are so negative and opinionated I don't really have much else to discuss, since its just your personal doomsday predictions for the group and how much you dislike certain members and stuff.  All idol groups are "corrupt" to some degree since they all operate in a fairly innately corrupt industry, but if you think Idoling's behind the scenes corruption is bad right now, I guess you've been completely ignoring AKB for the last year or so? Girls are leaving left and right or requesting to go to other countries to get away, getting kicked out from scandals which may have been staged by the agency, getting shuffled around and getting showcased favoritism more than anything in idol history, etc.

It's really hard to fathom that HP would have turned out better if they didn't hit mainstream as you are suggesting. Even in their down-cycle, Morning Musume alone is still selling more CDs than Idoling ever could, what more proof do you need to understand that going mainstream is simply better? Are you really satisfied with Idoling's place in the industry of being anonymous and being nothing for most people in general public? I also like to let you know that Idoling still exist not because they are good enough in popularity, but because of their unique arrangement with FujiTV, and a dedicated man in charge with some corporate muscle, otherwise Idoling would've been gone a while ago. Staying status quo for Idoling is not an option anymore, they have to become more established in the mainstream otherwise FujiTV who is suffering from a bad economy will think twice of keeping Idoling on board.
Morning Musume has also now adopted the AKB style of promotion for singles, releasing 4-7 versions of each single as well as selling randomized individual member handshake tickets being included with CDs.  Of course they're going to sell more copies. There was a period in the last few years where their sales were gutter-trash bad compared to what they used to be, since the sales that remained were the hardcore fans that were drawn in from the popularity period, then they started the AKB promotions and sales shot back up again because the amount of products they were offering with the CDs got increased. 

And regardless of why Idoling still exists and is on the air, the fact remains that they still are.  And the fact that they are still around despite never getting mainstream popular OR selling that much means that they obviously don't need to sell that much to maintain themselves, as they probably make a ton of money from other merchandise and promotions/events that they do that don't involve selling CDs. Their budget seems to be fairly low for the TV show, yet they make the best of it.  They have very little crew, a pretty small studio, and the girls (just like most other idols) probably don't get paid any exorbitant amount to be there. Studies and research have actually been conducted and concluded that idols make the most of their profits from the promotional appearances/sponsorships that they do for corporations and that only about 6% of the money from CD sales is actually profit that the company can use, so in the grand scheme, and especially with how skewed the sales number are with groups like AKB and MM doing other tactics to make the numbers rise, CD sales really don't matter.

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But that has been the staple of AKB from the beginning. It was in fact worse before they became mainstream, they were having raffles for the fans at the theater for these exclusive events where you get to bowl with the AKB members, and go on a boat cruise with AKB members. Things have toned down after they went mainstream because there would be too many jealous fans crying foul.

Going back to your point, hasn't Idolinig done a very skimpy PV in tight black shorts and t-shirt just recently? I find it just as tacky and commercialized than their earlier work, let's face it man, Idoling is becoming corrupt no matter what, might as well taste some success.
I know this is a staple from the beginning, and this is why I said it. I was merely stating that I'm glad Idoling hasn't done things that way, as it offers a nice alternative to what else is going on in the industry.  And seriously, if you consider One Up's outfits to be anywhere NEAR a lot of the stuff that AKB has gotten away with, you're way off.  One Up's outfits are just somewhat sporty, cool, fierce outfits, they don't scream "hey look at how slutty we are!" I don't get that vibe at all.  And if you look at them, they're all actually rather modest, since pretty much no cleavage is shown on any of the outfits, even though midriff and short shorts are present, those are common with any idols now and have been for years now, even with H!P and the like. Even the bikini's that Idoling has had in a few PVs (Poolside, Koufuku, etc.) were far more modest than anything AKB has done and were presented in a more fun way than provocative.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on December 12, 2012, 07:58:29 AM
tl;dr

1. Amimi is better MC-ing, because she is annoying if she appears behind members. (Hint: 919)
2. Nomoto's problem is more serious than Amimi.
3. Also staff is too much relying on Maipuru-Tonchan-Asahi-Amimi-Kaede. I'm so curious how this group will turn out if they graduate.
4. I found it fun to watch unprepared random chaotic Masuno-world episode. Watch him teasing some members. It is better than watching some random games in bikini.
5. #941 is terrible. #919 also terrible until Serina appear.
6. #943 this 放送事故 kind-of episode is fun. Just like the disaster on #611 and #459.
7. I don't really care about their music. I skipped every live performance and just watch them MC-ing instead.

I think Idolinger could be categorized in 6:
1. TV show fans, as long as the show still running, they don't care about member change. Usually Masuno fans.
2. Live fans, only come to small venue such as nicohachi, rarely in large venue such as numbering live.
3. Group fans, don't follow member's individual schedule, calendar, image DVD, TV appearance, and other shits.
4. Member fans, gone along if oshi graduates. Usually other group's fans.
5. God-mode fans, throwing money all directions, follow everything related to this group. Giving related stuffs to new fans.
6. Underground fans, love so much this group but never spent a cent. Me, pirates and some anonymous 2ch netizens. :P Well, temporary.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: cicily on December 12, 2012, 11:39:22 AM
tl;dr

1. Amimi is better MC-ing, because she is annoying if she appears behind members. (Hint: 919)
2. Nomoto's problem is more serious than Amimi.
3. Also staff is too much relying on Maipuru-Tonchan-Asahi-Amimi-Kaede. I'm so curious how this group will turn out if they graduate.
4. I found it fun to watch unprepared random chaotic Masuno-world episode. Watch him teasing some members. It is better than watching some random games in bikini.
5. #941 is terrible. #919 also terrible until Serina appear.
6. #943 this 放送事故 kind-of episode is fun. Just like the disaster on #611 and #459.
7. I don't really care about their music. I skipped every live performance and just watch them MC-ing instead.

I think Idolinger could be categorized in 6:
1. TV show fans, as long as the show still running, they don't care about member change. Usually Masuno fans.
2. Live fans, only come to small venue such as nicohachi, rarely in large venue such as numbering live.
3. Group fans, don't follow member's individual schedule, calendar, image DVD, TV appearance, and other shits.
4. Member fans, gone along if oshi graduates. Usually other group's fans.
5. God-mode fans, throwing money all directions, follow everything related to this group. Giving related stuffs to new fans.
6. Underground fans, love so much this group but never spent a cent. Me, pirates and some anonymous 2ch netizens. :P Well, temporary.

I guess my fandom can be categorized as #1, #3 and part of #6 then. :p
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on December 12, 2012, 04:47:29 PM
Man, your posts are so negative and opinionated I don't really have much else to discuss, since its just your personal doomsday predictions for the group and how much you dislike certain members and stuff.  All idol groups are "corrupt" to some degree since they all operate in a fairly innately corrupt industry, but if you think Idoling's behind the scenes corruption is bad right now, I guess you've been completely ignoring AKB for the last year or so? Girls are leaving left and right or requesting to go to other countries to get away, getting kicked out from scandals which may have been staged by the agency, getting shuffled around and getting showcased favoritism more than anything in idol history, etc.
I wouldn't say Idoling is doomed but they are not exactly going anywhere either, that's really my whole point. After all the money they spent promoting One Up!!! only to sell even less than the previous single clearly is not very encouraging.

There's no point in keep bringing up AKB, AKB has been run corrupt and chaotically since the beginning, Maeda Atsuko has been the favored center from the beginning, not since they hit mainstream as you suggest. Going mainstream is not the cause of AKB's corruption as you suggest at all, I have disproved your point already. Idoling will not turn into another AKB by going mainstream, it's just your fantasy, your worst fears are vastly unfounded in reality.

Instead of keep saying that Idoling doesn't have to go mainstream, I'd like to know if the fan-base even has the financial muscle to push Idoling into mainstream, that's the real question, otherwise what you are saying is just false bravado to avoid responsibility as a fan.

Morning Musume has also now adopted the AKB style of promotion for singles, releasing 4-7 versions of each single as well as selling randomized individual member handshake tickets being included with CDs.  Of course they're going to sell more copies. There was a period in the last few years where their sales were gutter-trash bad compared to what they used to be, since the sales that remained were the hardcore fans that were drawn in from the popularity period, then they started the AKB promotions and sales shot back up again because the amount of products they were offering with the CDs got increased.
Idoling adopted AKB style promotion even more with that 5th generation voting scheme, so if you are going to accuse Morninig Musume for shady promotional tactics, you'd have to include Idoling in there even more so. What is sad is that Idoling didn't really sell that many more CDs than usual even with the voting scheme.

Morning Musume had slow sales even with AKB style promotion, but lately they are on the rebound because of the new members, and a new interested in the group by the younger generation of youth, and the fact that they have been in the mainstream helped keep them around this long is undeniable, as being mainstream is the difference of having tons of fans all over the world instead of just in Japan.

And regardless of why Idoling still exists and is on the air, the fact remains that they still are.  And the fact that they are still around despite never getting mainstream popular OR selling that much means that they obviously don't need to sell that much to maintain themselves, as they probably make a ton of money from other merchandise and promotions/events that they do that don't involve selling CDs. Their budget seems to be fairly low for the TV show, yet they make the best of it.  They have very little crew, a pretty small studio, and the girls (just like most other idols) probably don't get paid any exorbitant amount to be there. Studies and research have actually been conducted and concluded that idols make the most of their profits from the promotional appearances/sponsorships that they do for corporations and that only about 6% of the money from CD sales is actually profit that the company can use, so in the grand scheme, and especially with how skewed the sales number are with groups like AKB and MM doing other tactics to make the numbers rise, CD sales really don't matter.
I suspect that the only reason FujiTV is keeping Idoling on board is because as I said before, the man in charge has corporate muscle, and Idoling is at least breaking even in net profit to not hurt FujiTV financially, but you are vastly mistaken if you think Idoling is on a solid footing as far as their existence is concerned because the TV show doesn't even have a corporate sponsor, that's a very shaky and unstable ground for a TV show as FujiTV's financial situation has direct implications on the show's survival.

Idoling doesn't have a permanent corporate sponsor unless if you count FujiTV, so they are not making much profit according to you, but from what I hear the most profit any idol group makes comes from merchandise sales (non-CD) at live events. Yeah you make more money from by doing corporate ads such as TV commercials, but what stupid company would hire an idol group that isn't even popular? Going mainstream and gaining popularity would fix that though.

Considering that AKB is selling CDs in the millions, I don't think the same 6% of overall profit even applies the way it would to Idoling or Morning Musume. So clearly, CD sales does matter.

I know this is a staple from the beginning, and this is why I said it. I was merely stating that I'm glad Idoling hasn't done things that way, as it offers a nice alternative to what else is going on in the industry.  And seriously, if you consider One Up's outfits to be anywhere NEAR a lot of the stuff that AKB has gotten away with, you're way off.  One Up's outfits are just somewhat sporty, cool, fierce outfits, they don't scream "hey look at how slutty we are!" I don't get that vibe at all.  And if you look at them, they're all actually rather modest, since pretty much no cleavage is shown on any of the outfits, even though midriff and short shorts are present, those are common with any idols now and have been for years now, even with H!P and the like. Even the bikini's that Idoling has had in a few PVs (Poolside, Koufuku, etc.) were far more modest than anything AKB has done and were presented in a more fun way than provocative.
Only thing way off here is the notion that Idoling would turn into AKB by going mainstream as you suggest. Your worst fears are simply unfounded in reality and not good enough reason to keep Idoling at status quo.

Whether you think One Up!!! outfit is not provocative and not sexy is simply your heavily fan-biased opinion, to most people it's clearly not conservative nor girl scout modesty at all, that's the objective perspective.

I won't deny that AKB's image is rather slutty at times, but AKB is an exception, not the norm. HP groups for the most part have been rather clean in terms of their group image (personal matters are different altogether), and so are many other idol groups from mainstream. Your whole argument that Idoling would turn into another AKB by going mainstream is utter nonsense.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: AEUGNewtype on December 12, 2012, 08:21:20 PM
Instead of keep saying that Idoling doesn't have to go mainstream, I'd like to know if the fan-base even has the financial muscle to push Idoling into mainstream, that's the real question, otherwise what you are saying is just false bravado to avoid responsibility as a fan.
This makes absolutely no sense, much like basically everything you posted in this reply I'm quoting. Since the Japanese people living in Japan who can go to every event and consume everything they have to offer are the only ones that can make any difference, it is up to them to change the financial backing of the group.  I own all of the Idoling albums, half of the singles, and have a couple dozen pieces of merchandise from them as far as shirts, DVDs, etc. so I don't just sit around and download their shit all day, I do buy their releases often, but my one person (a foreigner, nonetheless) doing so doesn't make much of a difference. No one has "responsibility" as a fan, you just are a fan, you have no obligation to an idol group unless you imagine it. You're getting into delusional wota mentalities here. I'm not here to "protect" Idoling, I am a fan and I support them when I can financially and when I see it fit.

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Idoling adopted AKB style promotion even more with that 5th generation voting scheme, so if you are going to accuse Morninig Musume for shady promotional tactics, you'd have to include Idoling in there even more so. What is sad is that Idoling didn't really sell that many more CDs than usual even with the voting scheme.
These schemes don't matter unless you already have a pretty substantial fanbase that buys everything you release, which Idoling really doesn't, yet H!P and AKB do, so the formula works for them, but for Idoling, they just need to get more supporters in general, not just suck more money out of the existing fans, because it doesn't work that way when you have few fans to begin with, comparatively. I think the relative non-idol-ness of Idoling is what hinders them from being accepted by lots of general idol wota because they don't try so hard to be the perfect ideal idol image, they focus more on being entertainers, and it doesn't give the wota very much fantasy to latch onto or create compared to something like AKB and H!P where the girls are pretty much all carbon copies of each other and are about as fake and generic as it gets in idol terms.  This is why I love Idoling and I'd rather seem them keep their uniqueness in the idol market than go the road that other troupes have gone, even if they're not swimming in money.

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what stupid company would hire an idol group that isn't even popular?
I don't know, Calpico, Sega, Sony, Konami, and Microsoft, among a laundry list of others.  Idoling!!! has done promotions and tie-ins with all of them, and some of them multiple times.

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Considering that AKB is selling CDs in the millions, I don't think the same 6% of overall profit even applies the way it would to Idoling or Morning Musume. So clearly, CD sales does matter.
This statement makes no sense at all, I'd suggest you re-state it and make your point more clear if you want it to be taken seriously.

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girl scout modesty
That's what MAMORE did.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on December 12, 2012, 10:00:02 PM
This makes absolutely no sense, much like basically everything you posted in this reply I'm quoting. Since the Japanese people living in Japan who can go to every event and consume everything they have to offer are the only ones that can make any difference, it is up to them to change the financial backing of the group.  I own all of the Idoling albums, half of the singles, and have a couple dozen pieces of merchandise from them as far as shirts, DVDs, etc. so I don't just sit around and download their shit all day, I do buy their releases often, but my one person (a foreigner, nonetheless) doing so doesn't make much of a difference. No one has "responsibility" as a fan, you just are a fan, you have no obligation to an idol group unless you imagine it. You're getting into delusional wota mentalities here. I'm not here to "protect" Idoling, I am a fan and I support them when I can financially and when I see it fit.
I'm not implying that you are just talk and no walk fan, I'm just curious as to your apparent lack of consideration for the well being of the members by keep saying that Idoling doesn't need to become mainstream, it just sounds like a very selfish motive to me. The members want to be more popular so that they could get more decent and well-paying work, as a fan you should be supporting their goals, not fear the possibilities of going mainstream and convince yourself in a twisted logic that Idoling is fine the way it is now, an anonymous nobody group. Do you even know why the members are working their butt off? Remaining anonymous is not it, that much I can tell you with certainty.

If you don't want to be responsible or liable for the success of an idol group, then it would be better to not say such discouraging things like Idoling doesn't need to become mainstream, I have to tell you again that I still don't get such an mentality. If you are basing that on that nonsense AKB analogy, your whole thought process is flat out wrong, that's all I can say.

These schemes don't matter unless you already have a pretty substantial fanbase that buys everything you release, which Idoling really doesn't, yet H!P and AKB do, so the formula works for them, but for Idoling, they just need to get more supporters in general, not just suck more money out of the existing fans, because it doesn't work that way when you have few fans to begin with, comparatively. I think the relative non-idol-ness of Idoling is what hinders them from being accepted by lots of general idol wota because they don't try so hard to be the perfect ideal idol image, they focus more on being entertainers, and it doesn't give the wota very much fantasy to latch onto or create compared to something like AKB and H!P where the girls are pretty much all carbon copies of each other and are about as fake and generic as it gets in idol terms.  This is why I love Idoling and I'd rather seem them keep their uniqueness in the idol market than go the road that other troupes have gone, even if they're not swimming in money.
Wait, just before you were claiming that HP was selling less than Idoling, but now you are flip flopping and saying that HP has the fan base to employ the AKB tactics? Do you just change things to fit your argument conveniently? Technicalities aside, you are now blaming the wota crowd for not appreciating Idoling enough? Do you ever find any faults in how the management or the group operates? This blaming everything else but not your beloved Idoling for not being popular enough to go into mainstream only sounds like sour grapes to me sir.

Here's what I have identified with the 5th generation voting scheme, you blamed the wota crowd who doesn't get Idoling, I say I blame the management for pulling such a lame stunt on the current fan base, more so than the current fan-base's lack of financial power. I mean if such a tactic is not going to make the current fan-base to spend more money, than clearly the non-fans wouldn't either.

You have mentioned that Idoling needs a new source of revenue stream such as new fans, and do you suppose they can do that the way Idoling is now? I doubt it, the quality has been real questionable on all fronts, and the staff is fooling around way too much by keep employing youth with mediocre vocals, and shoving untalented members into the spotlight and sucking on Kikuchi's toes every chance they can get. It's not a coincidence that I have to be rather critical of Idoling's management here, there are a lot of room for improvement.

I simply have to disagree with your claim that HP is just a carbon copy of each other and that they are fake and generic. HP actually keeps their idols very much down to Earth form, their talk segments are rather very free-style and has tons of comedic touches to it, their once aired Hello!Morning had quite a bit of variety to it and it would be rather ignorant to dismiss HP as another AKB clone, that's just not true. Besides, whos that annoying character from HP who is forming a tag-team with Kikuchi on the variety circuit? Momochi is home-grown HP idol and she's as unconventional an idol as they come, in fact her character is even more dynamic than Kikuchi's baka character, your opinion on HP is simply wrong.

And again, I must remind you that your worst fears of Idoling going mainstream = AKB clone is totally flawed.
Is Momoiro Clover an AKB clone? No and they are mainstream, and has plenty of variety aspect to them, just ask Idoling's MC Bakarhythm, he's a big fan.

Is Perfume a slutty garbage AKB clone? No, they are very artistic and creative, their techno-vocal genre has become something of a revolution in global music scene even, whos to say Idoling can't be that rather than AKB? Hell, Idoling actually has the vocal trio of Maipuru, Rurika, and Tonchan to even surpass Perfume. You see what I mean?

I don't know, Calpico, Sega, Sony, Konami, and Microsoft, among a laundry list of others.  Idoling!!! has done promotions and tie-ins with all of them, and some of them multiple times.
Yes I'm aware of the little corporate gigs Idoling gets, and do you suppose they are hired because of popularity, or super-discount in cost?
Hewlett Packard has dumped Idoling for AKB, and AKB now does TV commercials for them, Idoling only got lousy web ads. Idoling might as well stand on the streets and hand out fliers, the quality of work they get are putrid. Even the very recent Caplico gig they got had me on high hopes only to realize that their so-called reward is doing field sales in stores, not even a TV commercial, how sad.

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Considering that AKB is selling CDs in the millions, I don't think the same 6% of overall profit even applies the way it would to Idoling or Morning Musume. So clearly, CD sales does matter.
This statement makes no sense at all, I'd suggest you re-state it and make your point more clear if you want it to be taken seriously.
What is there not to understand? I'm saying CD sales matter, I can't be any more clearer than that. I also like to add that CD sales isn't just about making money, it also helps in spreading popularity, things would be radically different only if Idoling could get weekly Oricon #1 ranking just once, then people in the industry would not treat Idoling like a bunch of also-rans, that's for certain.

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girl scout modesty
That's what MAMORE did.
I thought we were talking about One Up!!!
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SomethingWild on December 12, 2012, 10:01:49 PM
Let's get involvedingu!!!

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create compared to something like AKB and H!P where the girls are pretty much all carbon copies of each other and are about as fake and generic as it gets in idol terms.  This is why I love Idoling and I'd rather seem them keep their uniqueness in the idol market than go the road that other troupes have gone, even if they're not swimming in money.

First of all, didn't the Idoling girls openly admit they have a character as well? Every single idol does, in any group. In AB48's defense, with so many girls and TV shows you actually have more variety in terms of characters. In addition, things like the documentaries have made them more open/real than any other idol group so far.

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And seriously, if you consider One Up's outfits to be anywhere NEAR a lot of the stuff that AKB has gotten away with, you're way off.

The black outfits in One Up are pretty much a copy of what NMB48 had for their debut single. To me it felt like a forced attempt at being sexy (aimed at more sales), rather than it being a single which showed of Idoling's identity as a group. Not to mention the song sounded like a weaker Flying Get. This brings me to this:

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After all the money they spent promoting One Up!!! only to sell even less than the previous single clearly is not very encouraging.

I think it sold less because it was patched together like a formula: bikinis, sexy outfits, a song that sounds like a big hit, etc. In the end you are left with a product that 1. isn't very interesting 2. doesn't feel like an actual Idoling single. One of the big issues with Idoling's music is that they are followers. We haven't gotten anything new or exciting from them in a while now. While I love the show, I don't find myself listening to them that much anymore, whereas I frequently played them in the past.

(Yes, I am aware that AKB48's recent songs are quite generic as well and that a lot of them sound alike. I'm not happy with this either. I also want to keep the AKB48 comparisons to a minimum because it's gotten out of hand like three times already. Yes, I am also aware of the irony I mentioned AKB48 several times in this post, haha.) AKB48 is not the point, because I want Idoling to do well as well. They used to offer something different musically, so I want them to go back to being themselves rather than forcing/aiming at something they're not.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on December 12, 2012, 10:36:46 PM
The black outfits in One Up are pretty much a copy of what NMB48 had for their debut single. To me it felt like a forced attempt at being sexy (aimed at more sales), rather than it being a single which showed of Idoling's identity as a group. Not to mention the song sounded like a weaker Flying Get. This brings me to this:

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After all the money they spent promoting One Up!!! only to sell even less than the previous single clearly is not very encouraging.

I think it sold less because it was patched together like a formula: bikinis, sexy outfits, a song that sounds like a big hit, etc. In the end you are left with a product that 1. isn't very interesting 2. doesn't feel like an actual Idoling single. One of the big issues with Idoling's music is that they are followers. We haven't gotten anything new or exciting from them in a while now. While I love the show, I don't find myself listening to them that much anymore, whereas I frequently played them in the past.

(Yes, I am aware that AKB48's recent songs are quite generic as well and that a lot of them sound alike. I'm not happy with this either. I also want to keep the AKB48 comparisons to a minimum because it's gotten out of hand like three times already. Yes, I am also aware of the irony I mentioned AKB48 several times in this post, haha.) AKB48 is not the point, because I want Idoling to do well as well. They used to offer something different musically, so I want them to go back to being themselves rather than forcing/aiming at something they're not.
Well, with the extravagant extra promotion they did for One Up!!!, I think they were going for new fans, but as you have mentioned, the content simply isn't that original to hook people in. Secondly, Idoling simply still doesn't have big enough brand-name presence to get attention with conventional marketing. People will just wonder what they had just seen or heard for that moment, and then just move on. It feels like they missed a step in the marketing, step A and C were great, but the crucial step B was missing, so the result D they were looking for never happened.

Yeah, I totally agree with you on that Idoling music has become nothing special, they don't utilize vocal talents in their music anymore, so their song sounds like generic AKB song now. I don't listen to the newer Idoling songs either.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: AEUGNewtype on December 12, 2012, 10:47:49 PM
Wait, just before you were claiming that HP was selling less than Idoling, but now you are flip flopping and saying that HP has the fan base to employ the AKB tactics? Do you just change things to fit your argument conveniently? Technicalities aside, you are now blaming the wota crowd for not appreciating Idoling enough? Do you ever find any faults in how the management or the group operates? This blaming everything else but not your beloved Idoling for not being popular enough to go into mainstream only sounds like sour grapes to me sir.
I never said anything about selling "less than Idoling" I said their H!P's sales were abysmal for a while compared to what they used to do and especially compared to what other idol groups were doing at the time. Hell, some of my other favorite groups right now sell WAY less than Idoling, yet they continue to exist because of the promotions they have and fairly low budgets, and I love their output, so what do I care if they sell or not?

Also, to respond to this entire thing, I'll just add that voting for new generation members doesn't mean shit compared to why AKB usually sells so much, which is voting tickets for a huge popularity contest among ALL current members or handshake tickets, and especially when you have over 200 members to choose from, things are pretty accessible across the board.  This is a whole different ball game.  When you have many fans buying somewhere between 400-1500 copies of a single to get a bunch of voting tickets, how is that spreading popularity outside of the fan niche? It isn't. It's drawing parlor tricks media attention to it, but its not making the group look any more legitimate in the public eye.

In the case of H!P adapting similar tactics, the tickets were for handshake tickets, and it gave the fans who already bought everything a lot more incentive to buy even more multiple copies of the exact same CD, since before, all their CDs came with was all the common crap like trading cards, which is of much less value than a chance to meet the idol, and that's still not as intense as the AKB election tickets.  In essence, for the popularity contest tickets, fans believe that whoever buys the most copies of the same CD to vote for their favorite means they love their idol the most.  This is how the system works, basically exploiting the delusions of fans who are obviously too far in for their own good and will take things to EXTREME measures to "buy" the "love" of their favorite idol. Even though the idol will never know that and its all just a fantasy, it becomes a bitter rivalry among fans to support their idols which they have already supported for years and spent a virtual money pit worth of cash on in the past.

All of this is different than voting in an election of which new members will join the group.  I can see this not selling, since these kinds of new member audition voting events have typically just been a free process in the past that just garnered fan participation or is completely decided by management with no say from fans.  Dumb marketing move, absolutely.

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What is there not to understand? I'm saying CD sales matter, I can't be any more clearer than that.
Yet you did not give clear reasoning or proof of why.

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your opinion on HP is simply wrong.
And this is where I stop taking you seriously, entirely, and will not respond to you anymore.

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First of all, didn't the Idoling girls openly admit they have a character as well? Every single idol does, in any group. In AB48's defense, with so many girls and TV shows you actually have more variety in terms of characters. In addition, things like the documentaries have made them more open/real than any other idol group so far.
Of course they have characters, all idols do, but I feel Idoling's characters are far more unconventional compared to all the dreck I see populating other idol groups today.  Watch some of the episodes of Banzuke Eight where Idoling is appearing alongside just about every other major idol group out there today and the other groups are sad, pathetic shells of entertainers.  They simply run through the motions of generic idol behavior and catch-phrases while Idoling is making rotten jokes and threatening people, etc. Maybe its personal preference, but I've seen so much of idols at this point, I'm tired of them just having the same behaviors 95% of the time, its nice to see something different.

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Not to mention the song sounded like a weaker Flying Get
Haha, that's like an oxymoron.  Flying Get is trash and the songs have completely different styles.  Slightly similar instrumentation, but different song style entirely and Idoling's arrangement actually used tons of real instruments, not trash-sounding synths. Oh well, this is all personal preference and opinion, anyway!

So, I'm done with this discussion, lets get back to talking about the TV episodes like the thread says.  :jphip:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on December 12, 2012, 11:58:34 PM
I never said anything about selling "less than Idoling" I said their H!P's sales were abysmal for a while compared to what they used to do and especially compared to what other idol groups were doing at the time. Hell, some of my other favorite groups right now sell WAY less than Idoling, yet they continue to exist because of the promotions they have and fairly low budgets, and I love their output, so what do I care if they sell or not?
Yes I'm now aware that you don't give a shit about the financial stability of Idoling nor the members' goals.
As far as selling CDs is concerned, it's a part of the revenue, any business needs income to operate, introduction to business operation 101.

Also, to respond to this entire thing, I'll just add that voting for new generation members doesn't mean shit compared to why AKB usually sells so much, which is voting tickets for a huge popularity contest among ALL current members or handshake tickets.  This is a whole different ball game.  When you have many fans buying somewhere between 400-1500 copies of a single to get a bunch of voting tickets, how is that spreading popularity outside of the fan niche? It isn't. It's drawing parlor tricks media attention to it, but its not making the group look any more legitimate in the public eye.
AKB sells more because of the size of the fan base, nothing else. They are both a form of popularity contest in essence, but if I had to form my objective opinion as to which voting scheme is more crucial to the group, I would say it's Idoling's 5th generation voting, because it's about selecting new members into the group which may totally change the complexion of the group itself, while AKB version is truly nothing more than a popularity contest with existing members merely staying put or changing a few spots on the ranking chart, yawn.
You may say AKB fans are just buying all that CDs and that their fan base is the same, but you have to give it to them that they are more dedicated and supportive than Idoling fans. Anyway, this isn't about how bs AKB's CD sales is, having a chance to vote for a new Idoling member does matter quite a bit, if you recall, 4th generation was also voted into the group, and because they were selected by non professionals of Idoling members, and magazine editors who only cared for the looks, the result was quite a disaster and still affecting Idoling today.

In the case of H!P adapting similar tactics, the tickets were for handshake tickets, and it gave the fans who already bought everything a lot more incentive to buy even more multiple copies of the exact same CD, since before, all their CDs came with was all the common crap like trading cards, which is of much less value than a chance to meet the idol, and that's still not as intense as the AKB election tickets.  In essence, for the popularity contest tickets, fans believe that whoever buys the most copies of the same CD to vote for their favorite means they love their idol the most.  This is how the system works, basically exploiting the delusions of fans who are obviously too far in for their own good and will take things to EXTREME measures to "buy" the "love" of their favorite idol. Even though the idol will never know that and its all just a fantasy, it becomes a bitter rivalry among fans to support their idols which they have already supported for years and spent a virtual money pit worth of cash on in the past.
I don't know why you are stating the obvious. Yes HP does sell hand-shake tickets, so does Idoling, what's your point?

All of this is different than voting in an election of which new members will join the group.  I can see this not selling, since these kinds of new member audition voting events have typically just been a free process in the past that just garnered fan participation or is completely decided by management with no say from fans.  Dumb marketing move, absolutely.
Well it's easy to dish out the blame after the fact, I don't think the voting scheme was dumb, the whole idea was to get the fans involved more just like AKB, if you haven't noticed, Idoling is following the trend of AKB marketing, it just turned out that Idoling fan base just isn't big enough to make any significant surge in sales. What really backfired among the fan base was that there was a lot of suspicion in regards to a foul-play in the voting mechanism, where fans felt that it was fixed and that Watanabe agency girls would get in no matter what, and it became true, so quite a few fans who were voting for other girls felt betrayed and stopped being Idoling fans. This is absolutely poor management, that's the real blame, not the voting scheme itself.

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What is there not to understand? I'm saying CD sales matter, I can't be any more clearer than that.
Yet you did not give clear reasoning of why.
I have a couple of times, and I'm not obligated to give you any reasons when your stance doesn't even make sense.

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your opinion on HP is simply wrong.
And this is where I stop taking you seriously, entirely, and will not respond to you anymore.
I guess you can't counter my detailed argument to realize how wrong you were on HP. You don't have to sound that bitter man, I just hope that you've learned from it and move on.

Of course they have characters, all idols do, but I feel Idoling's characters are far more unconventional compared to all the dreck I see populating other idol groups today.  Watch some of the episodes of Banzuke Eight where Idoling is appearing alongside just about every other idol group out there today and the other groups are sad, pathetic shells of entertainers.  They simply run through the motions of generic idol behavior and catch-phrases while Idoling is making rotten jokes and threatening people, etc. Maybe its personal preference, but I've seen so much of idols at this point, I'm tired of them just having the same behaviors 95% of the time, its nice to see something different.
I use to believe this too, but Idoling and AKBingo seem awfully the same kind of stuff to me. There isn't as much distinction as there were a few years ago, other idol groups are diving deep into variety just as much.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: cicily on December 13, 2012, 08:16:50 AM
One thing I do agree with:

Musically, Idoling!!! is definitely not using all the talent they have. They don't have solo parts in their singles as much anymore, and when they do, it's pretty generic stuff that doesn't use the singing talents of the better singers in the groups. And there aren't any more harmonies like in 'eve' either.

And their choreography and PVs are pretty bland. C'mon, you have a former TRF backup dancer in the group (Ruka) for crying out loud. What would it take to give her a dance solo in a song again like what they did in 'SISTERS'? And you have at least nine members who are competent and/or trained dancers (Tonchan, Ruri, Umeko, Hiichan, Ruka, Nao, Ai, Manami, Karen) - would it kill them to put in more complex choreography than just shifting around from left to right? I saw the DANCE IDOLING!!! performance at this year's TIF. I know they can do it. Even Secret Girls songs have better choreography than Idoling!!! singles.

Sometimes it almost feels like the staff wants Idoling!!! to remain in its current niche as performers and are afraid of them breaking out as artistes...
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: LarcKen on December 13, 2012, 11:11:20 AM
^ Nice heads up in concern of their dance choreography, it's surprisingly lacking of discussions for it (even with the recent pages of debate  :nervous). Didn't even crossed my mind until you mentioned it.
Though i have felt it for a long time that their choreography for the most part are indeed leaves a lot to be desired. 
And yes, musically they are mediocre at best right now. 
That said, Thankfully you won't find other idol group in the world that is so comforting and amusing to watch in their show, thanks to their amazing chemistry and splendid characters.  :D
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on December 13, 2012, 03:22:06 PM
Performance discussion please move to general discussion thread, will ya? This thread is for episode discussion.

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Now goes to #944

Finally they make it an episode for Asahi problem. XD
I also noticed Asahi's leg is different lately. I wonder why, we should ask her about it when she gets live discussion at Nico channel.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on December 13, 2012, 03:36:20 PM
944 is just awesome.

and quote of the day goes to

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Which pride do you wish to protect!? Is it your pride as an Idol!? Or your pride as Idoling!!!

That's probably the most wicked choice to make  :lol: If she wins, she's a guy thus losing the pride as an idol but protects her pride as one of the idoling!!! sumo team. She loses, she's a girl thus keeping the pride as an idol but loses her place in idoling!!!

You decide your own gender!  :nervous

and those interviews just reminds me of Suu-chan life counseling series. How I miss those.

Putting Gocchan in was just brilliant  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: neonero on December 14, 2012, 12:05:33 AM
So Asahi is a guy. Well still like him. Ganbare Asahi-kun ! :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on December 14, 2012, 05:02:40 AM
I didn't care for 944, it was just lame and overdone, I mean force-feeding that Asahi is a guy is just whatever to me. It only says that the staff is incapable of coming up with decent episodes on a consistent basis to keep relying on such obscure inside-joke material that only 30% of the fan base would appreciate and 100% of non-fans wouldn't comprehend.

And it's not even original because AKB's Takamina is accused of being a guy already.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: neonero on December 14, 2012, 12:20:58 PM
@Jenus : May I ask what is the last episode you really enjoyed watching ?
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on December 14, 2012, 04:51:15 PM
@Jenus : May I ask what is the last episode you really enjoyed watching ?
The one episode in particular that I find myself keep going back to watch is DJ Rukaede (#829), that episode was truly edgy and hilarious, especially to see 1st generation members put on a spot instead of looking bored and un-involved.

Idol Badminton Battle episodes also had its moments for the rare occasion of seeing other idol groups interact outside of their element on the show, and the controversy caused by Super Girls' Rino was extra sweet, almost to the point that she out-shined the badminton part in entirety, but making the battle 4 episodes long just didn't have enough steam at the end, 2 episodes would've been perfect in keeping it at the absolute edgy state throughout.

The episodes since then have been mostly re-hashing of the same stuff I've seen before which greatly reduces the fun-factor in that it's predictable and redundant, the 12 Amitalk episodes are unmemorable and doesn't even match up to one episode of DJ Rukaede. The new concept episodes since then have been either too lame or contrived to get a genuine laughter out of me.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: cicily on December 14, 2012, 05:28:35 PM
The one episode in particular that I find myself keep going back to watch is DJ Rukaede (#829), that episode was truly edgy and hilarious, especially to see 1st generation members put on a spot instead of looking bored and un-involved.

That episode is yet another example of an episode where the girls got to show off their improvisational and comedic timing skills, albeit with a lot of prompting by Masuno. I love episodes like that - I think Idoling!!! should do more of those.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on December 15, 2012, 02:46:00 AM
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Shit-flavored Curry or Curry-flavored Shit, which one you choose?
I'd choose  Shit-flavored Curry, because even though it taste like shit, it is still curry.

By Umeko
地 奈 ヲ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYrxk-sUCYc#ws)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SomethingWild on December 15, 2012, 01:48:06 PM
I'm a big Asahi fan, she's been in my top three since forever, but I gotta admit I didn't really like #944 that much either.
The 'she's a guy' gag is fun as a running joke at random times, but to devote an entire episodes to it is a bit much.
Two highly similar VTRs and then seven minutes (!) of build up to the sumo match... Pffft.
Giving Asahi a choice with the sumo match was a fun idea, but I think we all knew what was gonna happen  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: cicily on December 15, 2012, 03:09:53 PM
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Shit-flavored Curry or Curry-flavored Shit, which one you choose?
I'd choose  Shit-flavored Curry, because even though it taste like shit, it is still curry.

By Umeko
地 奈 ヲ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYrxk-sUCYc#ws)

LOL. Who scripts these openers? I have to start paying attention to these. Normally I just zone out during the opener until the actual episode proper starts.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on December 16, 2012, 12:44:31 AM
So I figured there'd be nothing interesting to see for episode 945 being that it's a nicohachi live, however 2 interesting things happened.

On picking the member to sing Haru Iro No Sora, Sakai went on a 3 minute rant about how she's going to do an adult rendition of it to get the votes in her typical arrogant, aggressive manner (why Sakai does that psychotic character I'll never know.), while the other two candidates Tamagawa and Kiyoku were appealing their case in a typical humble manner. Now if the notion that Idolingers love the variety aspect holds true, then there'd be no doubt that Sakai would win this poll hands down. But surprisingly, it was Kiyoku that has beaten Sakai 36.7% to 34.7%. Although I'm not too high on Kiyoku as a member, this was a triumphant moment for me as I have despised Sakai ever since she has become grotesque in her character and applied the variety aspect even into the singing aspect of it to make mockery of herself as well as the group. Now that Sakai's silly behavior is not even winning over the fans watching the live, this moment symbolizes the end of the road for Sakai as a member of Idoling. I felt so proud that the fans chose to go with a straight-forward take on the song rather than Sakai's variety rendition, it signals victory on my sentiments of keeping the singing aspect as pure as possible.

Another moment worthy of notice is that Baby Raids made an appearance as guests, and also in the poll vs Idoling has won, this time with even a bigger margin of 59.6% to 40.4%. While this could be attributed to the Idoling fans being polite and reading between the lines in their voting, it still shows how much interest and compassion the fans have for former Idoling contestants. Watching the performance of Rikako and Takami as Baby Raids once again raised what if thoughts as they seem to be further along and far more polished than any of the 5th generation members in their performance. Bitter sweet it is.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: AEUGNewtype on December 16, 2012, 02:43:18 AM
Holy shit, this is great comedy, janus, keep this coming. I don't know if you're intending for people to take you seriously, but I can't even believe how funny this is.  :twothumbs
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on December 16, 2012, 03:30:39 AM
which also means Asahi's era is already ended within Idoling!!! since she lost the vote to sing her sub-unit songs a few times to some 5th gen! Oh no!!!!

and... and..

Tachibana lost to Serina!!!
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on December 16, 2012, 03:52:34 AM
which also means Asahi's era is already ended within Idoling!!! since she lost the vote to sing her sub-unit songs a few times to some 5th gen! Oh no!!!!

and... and..

Tachibana lost to Serina!!!
It's ironic that you brought up Asahi, I'm sure you intended to be sarcastic, but sadly Asahi's days are over as well. She's no longer a model, being a model was her identity, and without it, she has became a burden to the group. Sure, Masuno and the members would make fun of it to light things up for Asahi because pretending that nothing has happened is just too painful to endure for everyone. So what is left for Asahi? She doesn't have the figure to transition into adult modeling, her looks have deteriorated so much to the point that she's now being treated like a boy. She's not that great of a singer, and her dancing skill is best described as casual at best. She's a HORRIBLE actress, and being good at variety is like trying to sell air-conditioner at south pole, nobody wants to see a clown as an idol in mainstream Japan. She's not smart enough to get into college I'm sure, if she can even manage to graduate high school that is. Asahi truly has hit the wall both in her career and academically. The prospects of Asahi just hanging around Idoling as long as possible like Umeko and Sakai are doing makes me feel so sad.   
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: strtl on December 16, 2012, 06:30:40 AM
 :lol: You've really changed your mind from last year when in the Ranking thread you considered Asahi to be

Quote from: Jenus
a very crucial member who is a mood-maker, and someone who can bridge the gap between the older members and the younger members with her all-around socializing nature. She's also one of a kind contributor on the show, I can't imagine Idoling without her.

and this just 4 months ago

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I have never seen an idol who is as genuine and un-filtered like her, and her outgoing and charming personality perfectly match with the ideal image of what Idoling would like to be known as. She's the most liked member by other members, and as the undisputed mood-maker of the group as well as her unique comical qualities, her presence within the group is probably the most crucial position.

and while we're on that subject, here's your opinion on Kikuchi only 11 months ago in the ranking thread

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Her contribution as a solo act is undeniably significant for the group's benefit, it's rather surprising that out of all the members Kikuchi was the one who was able to break into the mainstream limelight. Her presence within the group has now become extra-pivotal, I think she has put herself in a position of even bargaining her way around Idoling, possibly vying for the future-leader role.



Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on December 16, 2012, 06:58:05 AM
As far as Asahi is concerned, I really haven't changed anything, I still regard Asahi's ability in variety very highly. The criticism I have mentioned about Asahi has more to do with her as an individual, whereas the good things I have said before was within the context of Idoling member.

Looks like my prediction on Kikuchi taking over the show has come true, but I didn't think it would turn out this ugly, in the tune of 12 Amitalk episodes, that's just retarded.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Code001 on December 16, 2012, 03:44:35 PM
Jenus, you've been ranting on for quite awhile now.  Nearly every post you've made here within the past year has been nothing but harsh criticism about this group and a good majority of the members in it.  On top of that, you feel as if it's some sort of contest to "win" arguments by injecting what you feel are "facts" when it comes to these topics you're arguing.  The fact of the matter is, nobody really likes the negativity you continue to spew.  You insist on coming to this board only to ruffle feathers and get people's panties in a bunch; you know you're doing this, and you realize that most of the members here do not appreciate it.  However, you continue on that path for some sort of bizarre self-gratification on the matter.  You do this in the guise of love for a group that you once held in the highest regard, but I personally feel that your admiration for the group has long since passed.  If that's the case, why do you continue to annoy the members here?  Why do you insist on injection your ridicule into every discussion here?

I think I speak for everyone when I say that we honestly do not care for the negativity.  In fact, your extremely antagonistic responses generally cause most of the members here to immediately pull an about-face on the matter simply out of spite.  If you have something to say, that's fine.  If it's a bit critical, that's fine too.  However, continuing to harp on matters that most of us disagree with or find offensive is not only distasteful but borders on being repulsive.  Honestly, we don't want to hear a group which we love continue to get belittled.  We realize the group has changed from what it used to be, and we realize that certain things may not be quite as good as they used to be.  That doesn't mean we want to hear someone repeatedly denigrate the group every chance he or she might get.  I'm pretty sure I speak for most of us when I ask this of you -- please, cool it for a bit.  If you can't refrain from doing that, then it might be better if you just leave the board and find some other place to post.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Jenus on December 16, 2012, 06:47:50 PM
Here we go again with making this into I'm the bad guy mentality instead of actually taking the topic I'm talking about with some sense of rationality and reason. Most of you are so wrapped up in defending everything about the group and it really comes across as nonsense to even a fan like myself.

I'm also not here to start anything either, I'm merely posting my thoughts, and when someone replies to it with a response that has no basis in reality whatsoever, I'm not just going to sit here and concede defeat or anything, so if you are not mature enough and sensible enough to handle my honest opinion, DON'T FUCKING REPLY TO MY POSTS. Just ignore me, I don't care for nonsensical responses at all, but I'm replying to them out of courtesy.

As for the group, you are right in that I don't regard them as highly as I once did before, but I don't dislike every member either, I still have several members that I am very enthusiastic about so I don't think I'll ever abandon them just because there's a few bad apples in the group, so please don't tell me what to do, it's not within your right.

Lastly, grow some balls and face reality for a change, Idoling is where it's at because they do have some problems, mostly on the staff side, it's simply not in my nature to put my head into the ground and pretend that everything is peachy when it clearly isn't.

It's quite ironic that you think I'm only contributing negativity when it's merely my opinion bottom line, but your hating on myself is far stronger negativity around here.

And cut the high and mighty take on this matter as if your words have any wisdom, all you are doing is taking sides, and injecting even more nonsensical negativity against my honest opinion. Please grow up.

I forgot to say, I'm done in regards to this nonsense, if you want to curse me out or take this into a personal pissing match that you seem to desire, take it to PM, where it belongs.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Code001 on December 16, 2012, 07:37:51 PM
See, that's the problem.  I've tried to ignore you.  In fact, a lot of people here have, but you keep recapitulating your opinion as if it's gospel.  If you think I'm incorrect, just look at the amount of thanks I've already received from that post in the short amount of time it's been up.  You say grating things in an attempt to get a rise out of people on purpose, and then you proceed to defend your opinions while belittling others.  It reminds me of a high school debate class when these teenagers think that the world cares so much about their opinions that they must continue to dissect every minuscule detail and find faults with the opposing participants in an attempt to "beat the other guy." 

Maturity isn't just about handling another's opinion; it's about realizing that what you're saying is potentially discommodious and having the guts to drop the issue.  Unfortunately, as my aforementioned post seems to have not gotten through to you, it appears as if you'll never understand what I'm trying to say as you're blinded by your adamance to preserve your conjecture, even resorting to profanity-laced attacks.  It may not be my right to tell you what to do, but it is indeed my right to speak up for what I feel is right, and I feel your continued attacks against the group are unjust and unwanted on this board.

And since you edited your post, I have never once resorted to profanity in responding to you, nor do I plan on it.  It has no place in this discussion and only leads to tactlessness.  I have never once stated I hate you, either.  Looking back, I don't think anybody has ever said they flat out hate you, so I'm not sure where you're getting that from.  It was your continued irreverence that lead me to write this to help you open your eyes and just think a bit before you post.  I stated this on the board for a purpose -- I want this to be heard and thanked by other people in an attempt to show you that I'm not alone in this matter.  I never had any plans on PM'ing you regarding the manner to begin with.  If you still don't get it, I'm honestly not sure what to say...
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on December 16, 2012, 08:04:47 PM
We don't know you, we don't hate you.
You came in peace, we welcomed you in peace.
But you started spreading flames to our board. Maybe the flame not directly burns us, but it burns our property and left out ugly scenery. That we can't just simply "ignore" you.
This board certainly has a rule regarding flamers.

You reminds me of https://twitter.com/yuisayaka. Speaking hatred "for the sake of the group". At first, everyone ignored it, but it becomes annoying when this person hashtag-ing every speech. Luckily twitter has workaround to filter the tweet from appearing in my search and timeline, but this board doesn't have that.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: AEUGNewtype on December 16, 2012, 08:25:35 PM
This really has gone too far.

You reminds me of https://twitter.com/yuisayaka. Speaking hatred "for the sake of the group".
Wow, that guy is so obnoxious.  He is constantly "threatening" that he's going to stop following Idoling and just follow Korean artists.  As if the entire world is SO concerned about what this guy follows...wow. The pompousness of his entire account is just astounding. And a lot of the stuff he has posted is almost like word-for-word of what Jenus has posted..
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SomethingWild on December 16, 2012, 09:07:16 PM
Here we go again

This is the third or fourth time this has gone completely out of hand. We have issued warnings before to keep it clean and fun, but no dice.

Due to repeated violation of the Code of Conduct (http://forum.jphip.com/index.php?topic=3014.0) (in particular Section A.1) the staff has decided to ban Jenus. It always sucks to lose a member and I do believe he wants the best for the group, but it can't be at the expense of everybody else's forum going experience.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: AEUGNewtype on December 17, 2012, 12:05:35 AM
Thank you for taking action, its great to see mods really doing their job. Like we said before, there is no hate for him, he just got really out of hand and refused to listen when we told him he was getting out of hand.  :jphip:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: LarcKen on December 17, 2012, 04:21:07 AM
Damn, the guy actually gone and took his rantings across the board  :shocked  :rofl:
Seriously, i actually started taking pity. The guy gotta learn to 'enjoy life' ASAP
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: b8067hc on December 18, 2012, 05:16:29 PM
Well then, let's go back to the main topics (be cool guys  :D :D). I found that #944 quite interesting, especially other members judgement about Nao, that she's a "boy". One funny comment about Nao came from Kurumin, said that Adult woman should not have small boobs  :lol: :lol:. Inline with previous Ami-talk segment about Nao (again  :P), said that other members really "loves" Nao. I started to think, maybe they right, IMHO Nao right now is different from Nao that we knew in 2008-2009. Cute looks & appearances slowly turn into boyish character, is it just me (or you guys think the same too)??

In terms of Idol group, i think it's fine to have a "boy" inside them, cause it will make group more colorful & interesting  :twothumbs :twothumbs. Beside Idoling!!!, there are also "boy" in other idol group right.. (you name it  :D)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on December 18, 2012, 05:48:33 PM
Well then, let's go back to the main topics (be cool guys  :D :D). I found that #944 quite interesting, especially other members judgement about Nao, that she's a "boy". One funny comment about Nao came from Kurumin, said that Adult woman should not have small boobs  :lol: :lol:. Inline with previous Ami-talk segment about Nao (again  :P), said that other members really "loves" Nao. I started to think, maybe they right, IMHO Nao right now is different from Nao that we knew in 2008-2009. Cute looks & appearances slowly turn into boyish character, is it just me (or you guys think the same too)??

In terms of Idol group, i think it's fine to have a "boy" inside them, cause it will make group more colorful & interesting  :twothumbs :twothumbs. Beside Idoling!!!, there are also "boy" in other idol group right.. (you name it  :D)

I need to learn some Japanese so I could understand the episodes   :smhid Nao was cuter when she was younger... She is definitely boyish but have you seen the latest pic in her thread here?  :shocked: Quite hot for a flat chested girl  :lol:
I feel sorry for Kaoru though in this episode, she's always the punching bag of Nao in these Sumo matchups  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Code001 on December 18, 2012, 06:41:52 PM
Quite hot for a flat chested girl  :lol:

Flat chests = best chests  :heart:

But yeah, she was cuter back in the day.  Old school vid that the official channel uploaded not too long ago:

【公式】#459 お願い!お願い!ファン様!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It1vMQ5BSjU#ws)

Cliffs for those who don't undertand - she said the wrong title at the beginning, and that caused her to laugh so much that she started crying.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on December 18, 2012, 06:59:00 PM

Flat chests = best chests  :heart:

But yeah, she was cuter back in the day.  Old school vid that the official channel uploaded not too long ago:

【公式】#459 お願い!お願い!ファン様!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It1vMQ5BSjU#ws)

Cliffs for those who don't understand - she said the wrong title at the beginning, and that caused her to laugh so much that she started crying.

Code are you a big Nao fan? :) I was laughing hard when she admitted she had flat chests though  :lol: Thanks for the cliffs
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Code001 on December 18, 2012, 07:12:48 PM
You'll have to define what being a big fan means.  She's my favorite in the group, but I don't really follow her that much aside from what she does on the TV show.  If I had to describe myself, I'd say I'm a casual fan.  I like a lot of various members and a lot of various idol groups.  Basically, I'm not too picky.  :lol: If it's entertaining, I'll watch.  If it sounds good, I'll listen.  If it's interesting, I'll read it.  That's about what it boils down to.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on December 18, 2012, 07:29:30 PM
You'll have to define what being a big fan means.  She's my favorite in the group, but I don't really follow her that much aside from what she does on the TV show.  If I had to describe myself, I'd say I'm a casual fan.  I like a lot of various members and a lot of various idol groups.  Basically, I'm not too picky.  :lol: If it's entertaining, I'll watch.  If it sounds good, I'll listen.  If it's interesting, I'll read it.  That's about what it boils down to.

What I'm trying to say was if she was your favorite. :)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on December 19, 2012, 07:41:35 PM
946
Now this, the reason why Rurika - Goto - Yuna are famous for handshake event.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: strtl on December 19, 2012, 08:54:41 PM
946
Now this, the reason why Rurika - Goto - Yuna are famous for handshake event.

I was thinking exactly the same thing myself. Yuna in particular was amazing.
I wonder whether Kei_86 & Hatix might change their minds on who they go to see based on this episode.  :)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on December 20, 2012, 12:43:26 AM
946
Now this, the reason why Rurika - Goto - Yuna are famous for handshake event.

Yeah i can totally imagine but this episode totally doesn't help in reducing the amount of people that will line up for them XD Still gonna be some long ass line to wait.

The fake guy did a great job though, pretty convincing act. Another thing that surprised me was to see Su-san as a Director. Maybe I didn't realize all these while or something but it has been sometime since I last saw Su-san.

I was thinking exactly the same thing myself. Yuna in particular was amazing.
I wonder whether Kei_86 & Hatix might change their minds on who they go to see based on this episode.  :)

I swapped Miyake for Gotou though, since Hii-chan is not around this Sunday. So yeah, hopefully to experience something a bit different this time around.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: DrAkky on December 20, 2012, 01:45:15 AM
Flat chests = best chests  :heart:
I dunno, man.

The girls I like are firmly in team 'furatto', but you know it's like... You can't eat the plain-old steak at home every day - sometimes you just gotta venture out and grab a couple of Big Macs.

... 

:wth

Uh, well, you get the gist of it.


Edit. Goddamnit, now I'm starting to get hungry and miss Yazawa at the same time...
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: b8067hc on December 20, 2012, 06:31:20 AM
Flat chests = best chests  :heart:
I dunno, man.

The girls I like are firmly in team 'furatto', but you know it's like... You can't eat the plain-old steak at home every day - sometimes you just gotta venture out and grab a couple of Big Macs.

... 

:wth

Uh, well, you get the gist of it.


Edit. Goddamnit, now I'm starting to get hungry and miss Yazawa at the same time...

Maybe you can add miss Fonchi & miss Okawa also  :drool: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on December 20, 2012, 10:24:10 AM
Flat chests = best chests  :heart:
I dunno, man.

The girls I like are firmly in team 'furatto', but you know it's like... You can't eat the plain-old steak at home every day - sometimes you just gotta venture out and grab a couple of Big Macs.

... 

:wth

Uh, well, you get the gist of it.


Edit. Goddamnit, now I'm starting to get hungry and miss Yazawa at the same time...

Maybe you can add miss Fonchi & miss Okawa also  :drool: :drool: :drool:

Yes Ai-chan is the bomb... I never would have thought she would be packing those  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on December 21, 2012, 12:28:53 PM
Edit. Goddamnit, now I'm starting to get hungry and miss Yazawa at the same time...

and I just bought that WPB magazine with Yazawa in.


and even though I'm more of a "nice round oppai" kinda guy, I do seem to have exceptions, so that proves it's not all breasts that count  :P
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: AEUGNewtype on December 28, 2012, 12:19:08 AM
So, do we know if Mana is going to get one final episode of the show? Maybe one that was previously filmed? It would be so hard to watch if it was filmed after the announcement...I have a feeling even if she isn't in any more episodes, we might see some pretty emotional moments from the other girls in the next few.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on December 28, 2012, 01:10:32 AM
As Kado P said they didn't prepare for this, unlike Fonchi & Yazawa where fans actually seen them so emotional during 11th live, the day before announcement. Them and Suu-chan had a month to prepare for graduation event, while Nomoto only have a few days between Christmas and New Year's holiday.

Well, sure I hope they can make something like Zumidoling!!! episode for her.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on December 31, 2012, 09:11:27 AM
-- episode 425 --

lol its been a while since I re-watch this old episode, brings back lotsa memories especially when you don't see this kind of stuff around anymore

(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/kei_86/miracho_zps8db9c9f8.jpg)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on January 03, 2013, 12:58:48 AM
I need #949 Nicohachi tracklist. Maybe also a little summary of the talk if any.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on January 03, 2013, 03:34:53 AM
I need #949 Nicohachi tracklist. Maybe also a little summary of the talk if any.

This is the track list:
SISTER
Betana shitsuren ~Shibuya ni Furuyuki~
StarGirl★StarBoy
MAMORE!!!
Shokugyou: IDOL!
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: LarcKen on January 03, 2013, 10:19:14 AM
I need #949 Nicohachi tracklist. Maybe also a little summary of the talk if any.

Download it ASAP, there's an accident involving Hiichan & Manamize  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: rurika9 on January 03, 2013, 02:32:33 PM
Heads up, http://www.j-enta.com/en/show/2/Idoling (http://www.j-enta.com/en/show/2/Idoling)!!! could do with a little bit of an update (episode titles).
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: 123SillyBlast on January 05, 2013, 07:56:09 AM
I need #949 Nicohachi tracklist. Maybe also a little summary of the talk if any.

Download it ASAP, there's an accident involving Hiichan & Manamize  :lol:
I saw that but didn't really understand what was going on. Could someone explain what happened?
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on January 05, 2013, 11:12:17 AM
手さわんなや! Σ(゚∀゚ノ)ノキャーアアアアアアアアアアアアアアアア (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SIpBA2qX00#noexternalembed-ws)

Put it simple:
Nomoto was about to say something about Kurumi.
Then Hii-chan was touching Nomoto's arm.
Nomoto thought it was Ruka who touched her and said "Don't touch my hand!" but quickly noticed that it was Hii-chan.
== All went chaotic. Look at the comment on the screen. LOL ==
Hii-chan said it has been some time not seeing Nomoto so she wants to touch Nomoto's arm.
And Nomoto said "Please touch it as much as you like".

That's what I got. Not really a translation because I'm not. :P
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: hellguard89 on January 05, 2013, 02:19:58 PM
This site gives a lot of details about each episode but it's in Japanese
http://www5.plala.or.jp/cxco/idoling/history/top.html (http://www5.plala.or.jp/cxco/idoling/history/top.html)

It has a list of members appearing, songs performed and even what are requested for Fan-sama requests
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on January 15, 2013, 07:37:55 PM
When unexpected things happen, you know you are watching the real "Idoling!!!"

帽子 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wADDiQ2TFU#noexternalembed-ws)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SomethingWild on January 16, 2013, 01:53:06 PM
#947 - Ruka being impressed by Ramu's performance  :lol:

(http://uppix.com/f-Idoling______12150f6a2930011dcaa.jpg)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SomethingWild on January 27, 2013, 11:23:26 AM
Idoling!!! - 20130114 #953

Didn't particularly find the games very interesting, but Kaede won massive bonus points. I never saw her dive in like this. It showed a side of her I hadn't seen before. It's also funny she won, because I always considered Kaede the mini-hat type person to begin with  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SomethingWild on February 22, 2013, 03:56:56 PM
Idoling!!! - 20130221 #967

(http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip14769.jpg)

 :rofl:

Plenty of boob and poop jokes. Definitely not your average idol unit  XD
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: LarcKen on February 23, 2013, 11:03:16 AM
^LOL definitely reminds me of how crazy some of them are, even Hiichan unleashed the boobs related joke  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: rurika9 on March 03, 2013, 11:37:16 AM
And... This is why I love Japan! :lol:

Idoling!!! - 20130213 #964

(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1341/japanonly.png)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: cicily on March 15, 2013, 06:26:13 PM
Just another day on Idoling!!!  :twothumbs

(http://i.imgur.com/UEmsrL6.jpg)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on March 15, 2013, 07:59:51 PM
Just another day on Idoling!!!  :twothumbs

(http://i.imgur.com/UEmsrL6.jpg)

An episode after almost three weeks?! It was good though, they were caught off guard  :)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: LarcKen on March 16, 2013, 01:35:03 PM
That episode was such an oasis after crapload of Nicohachi episodes  :bow:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on March 16, 2013, 02:13:42 PM
That episode was such an oasis after crapload of Nicohachi episodes  :bow:

If I was in the venue of a Nicohachi live myself I wouldn't complain :lol: but since I'm watching from home and can't understand Japanese, I feel the same way.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: b8067hc on March 25, 2013, 03:06:30 PM
#977 : Expose of Idoling Member :drool: :drool: Even innocent member like Serina, Kurumin got expose too  :angry: :angry: They should've not expose "pure" member, please Mori-D & Kado-P..
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: 123SillyBlast on March 26, 2013, 04:51:06 PM
Just another day on Idoling!!!  :twothumbs

http://i.imgur.com/UEmsrL6.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/UEmsrL6.jpg)
What episode is that?
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on March 26, 2013, 05:33:51 PM
Just another day on Idoling!!!  :twothumbs

http://i.imgur.com/UEmsrL6.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/UEmsrL6.jpg)
What episode is that?

I think it's the White Day SP episode. You could look it up at J-enta, it's up on Alliance.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: miitan on March 26, 2013, 10:32:56 PM
What is this "Alliance" you speak of?  :?
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on March 27, 2013, 07:29:44 PM
What is this "Alliance" you speak of?  :?
See multimedia section.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on April 29, 2013, 10:27:57 AM
(http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv15/SuzukiRyo/GIF/Untitled-1-1_zps5a35b930.gif) (http://s665.photobucket.com/user/SuzukiRyo/media/GIF/Untitled-1-1_zps5a35b930.gif.html)

 :bow:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: LarcKen on April 30, 2013, 05:27:38 AM
^ oh yeah, that's an instant classic  :theking
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: b8067hc on April 30, 2013, 08:52:33 AM
Even masuno-san said Hii-chan is Gachi or "real".. Hahaa, perfect match for Hii-chan  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: winner on April 30, 2013, 02:32:18 PM
Best episode this year! :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on May 02, 2013, 08:50:47 PM
Damn!
3年目の浮気 Mori x Umeko duet is just pure gold.
Too good to be just an omake.

3年目の浮気 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m1Y3Qh0dN4#noexternalembed-ws)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Asahi Mon on May 11, 2013, 06:18:19 AM
2nd Gen 5 years Celebration!!!!  :twothumbs ...love them all  :inlove:

*spoiler -> but WHO THE HELL IS THAT?!!!  :shocked haha  :lol:->
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4139/oldsuchanhaha.jpg)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: miitan on May 11, 2013, 06:20:16 AM
2nd Gen 5 years Celebration!!!!  :twothumbs ...love them all  :inlove:

*spoiler -> but WHO THE HELL IS THAT?!!!  :shocked haha  :lol:->

You forgot Suuchan already?
Also, Michelle is looking whiter than usual.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Asahi Mon on May 11, 2013, 09:43:08 AM
Old Su-chan right haha  :rofl: ...i think that michelle is not the real one right?!  :nervous Masuno-san want to troll all 2nd Gen member haha
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on May 11, 2013, 10:19:39 AM
Old Su-chan right haha  :rofl: ...i think that michelle is not the real one right?!  :nervous Masuno-san want to troll all 2nd Gen member haha

"Old Suu-chan" is one of the masseuse in the recent episodes..  :lol: That's not Michelle too haha, felt like 2nd gen reunion was a parody of the first gen reunion with Kado P coming in with Old suu-chan on that bike.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on May 11, 2013, 11:28:33 AM
The title indeed said "gokko". But the talk and the story behind is real.
I can't imagine how much pressure and stress they had back then.
It makes me love 2nd generation members even more.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: miitan on May 11, 2013, 05:06:22 PM
The only thing they could have done better was bring back the real #10!  :twisted:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: winner on May 23, 2013, 07:40:32 PM
9:16-ing!!! I can get used to this... maybe~ :sweatdrop:

(http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/kyot777/misc/th_snapshot_0406_20130524_011538.jpg) (http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/kyot777/misc/snapshot_0406_20130524_011538.jpg) (http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/kyot777/misc/th_snapshot_0502_20130524_011713.jpg) (http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/kyot777/misc/snapshot_0502_20130524_011713.jpg) (http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/kyot777/misc/th_snapshot_0847_20130524_012024.jpg) (http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/kyot777/misc/snapshot_0847_20130524_012024.jpg)
(http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/kyot777/misc/th_snapshot_1300_20130524_011947.jpg) (http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/kyot777/misc/snapshot_1300_20130524_011947.jpg) (http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/kyot777/misc/th_snapshot_1405_20130524_013823.jpg) (http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/kyot777/misc/snapshot_1405_20130524_013823.jpg) (http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/kyot777/misc/th_snapshot_1656_20130524_012149.jpg) (http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/kyot777/misc/snapshot_1656_20130524_012149.jpg)

So next episode will be their 1000th? :w00t:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: miitan on May 23, 2013, 09:01:11 PM
9:16-ing!!! I can get used to this... maybe~ :sweatdrop:

I don't think I'll ever get used to a TV show shot sideways.  :wth
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on May 23, 2013, 11:54:33 PM
But it was a fun one-time concept that only Idoling!!! could pull off   XD
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Asahi Mon on May 24, 2013, 04:00:27 AM
wow idoling!!! is reaching 1000th episode... good job :thumbsup
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: winner on May 26, 2013, 05:30:05 PM
And the 1000th episode SP has come. They sure prepared for it.
I laughed all through the episode. Classic Idoling!!! :D

Yoroshiku ne~ :nervous
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: nnathann on May 28, 2013, 07:42:13 PM
Hi, does anyone know what endou said in the coming out part?
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: alpngso on May 29, 2013, 01:01:45 AM
切れ痔 = anal fissure. I guess she had problem with this. lol

Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: nnathann on May 29, 2013, 03:59:16 PM
goodness of all things to say lol
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SomethingWild on June 02, 2013, 11:10:10 AM
#1002

(http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip15593.jpg)

 :shocked:  :lol:

Best episode since a while!
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: b8067hc on June 03, 2013, 03:53:48 AM
^^ Can't argue with that  :lol: :lol: Look for Uematsu-san photo too, hilarious  XD
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Asahi Mon on June 05, 2013, 01:57:47 AM
so hilarious....masuno-san always take Uematsu side  :grin:. haha
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Asahi Mon on June 19, 2013, 06:07:57 PM
#1008
Ganbatte! Yuna!!  :wub:
(http://imageshack.us/scaled/medium/197/shnu.jpg)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on June 26, 2013, 07:24:30 AM
Has anybody seen 1011? I didn't understand what was happening  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on June 26, 2013, 09:36:26 AM
Has anybody seen 1011? I didn't understand what was happening  :lol:
It's the Izakaya AD quiz.
The AD's & D's are talking bad things behind the members' backs but they leave out the name of the member and they have to guess who it is.


First one: which member doesn't look pure any more, wears more eye makeup lately.
Second one: which member recently started dying her hair brown, wears sun glasses and gotten a bad character lately (not sure about that last one, 痛チャラ).
These first two were pretty easy to guess :)
But the last one was: who of the members seems like a ninja in the group (being unnoticed), everyone thinks it's Kaorun, but it's not, poor girl :)

But lol, is Amimi actually using the word "bitch"/ビッチ? :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: alpngso on June 26, 2013, 04:48:19 PM
Amimi went way overboard with that bitch comment.

I know she's always gunning for big laughs, but it was not really funny and inappropriate.

She even wrote in the flipboard the second time.

I understand that she wants to be funny and wants tsukkomi from masuno but not the way to do it.

If she knew that this kid of comment doesnt work in TV from other programs she appeared in, then I hope she really learned a lesson from yesterdays episode.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on June 26, 2013, 06:59:17 PM
Why did Kaorun cry though and Tachibana looking guilty? :?
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: alpngso on June 26, 2013, 11:09:36 PM
The last theme was who is the member known as the ninza within the idoling staff.

Apparently this member was late for PV shooting along with 3 members (Kiyoku, Miyake, Ookawa) but this member known as the ninza kinda snuck in and she being late went unnoticed.

Everyone thought Kaoru was the member because everyone thought her presence is usually unnoticeable. (sort of like 'oh, she was there?')

So everyone picked Kaoru but it ended up being Yurika. (I guess it's pretty sad to hear that you're presence cannot be felt even though you are there, so everyone felt bad for Gotoh)

It ended up making sense in the end since everyone did not notice that the member was Yurika (a true ninza  :roll:)

Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on June 27, 2013, 01:54:30 AM
The last theme was who is the member known as the ninza within the idoling staff.

Apparently this member was late for PV shooting along with 3 members (Kiyoku, Miyake, Ookawa) but this member known as the ninza kinda snuck in and she being late went unnoticed.

Everyone thought Kaoru was the member because everyone thought her presence is usually unnoticeable. (sort of like 'oh, she was there?')

So everyone picked Kaoru but it ended up being Yurika. (I guess it's pretty sad to hear that you're presence cannot be felt even though you are there, so everyone felt bad for Gotoh)

It ended up making sense in the end since everyone did not notice that the member was Yurika (a true ninza  :roll:)

I get it now  XD Well it's not something for her to be worried about since it's hard to keep track of everybody since they are that many  :) Haha funny that Yurippe didn't know it too before the announcement  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: elitedx on June 29, 2013, 04:21:18 AM
Amimi went way overboard with that bitch comment.

I know she's always gunning for big laughs, but it was not really funny and inappropriate.

She even wrote in the flipboard the second time.

I understand that she wants to be funny and wants tsukkomi from masuno but not the way to do it.

If she knew that this kid of comment doesnt work in TV from other programs she appeared in, then I hope she really learned a lesson from yesterdays episode.

that's what makes her Amimi...spur of the moment comment. I doubt she knows what it actually means, though Serina does. Her reaction was priceless.  :D
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on June 30, 2013, 07:52:20 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Mw2mM9H.jpg)

Blasted! LOL
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Inferno on July 02, 2013, 08:32:00 PM
I wonder about the episode #989 - Rokudenashi Idoling!!!. What was it about? I think I heard them saying "Yankee" or something like that. Were they referring to people from the US (Blonde wigs and all), or is the meaning something totally different? Did they sort of behaved like they see americans behaving? What rokudenashi means anyway?
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: miitan on July 02, 2013, 10:50:38 PM
I wonder about the episode #989 - Rokudenashi Idoling!!!. What was it about? I think I heard them saying "Yankee" or something like that. Were they referring to people from the US (Blonde wigs and all), or is the meaning something totally different? Did they sort of behaved like they see americans behaving? What rokudenashi means anyway?

Rokudenashi basically means "delinquent" or someone who's up to no good. The term "yanki" does come from the English "Yankee" but the meaning has changed to mean, primarily, a juvenile delinquent.

Back in the 50's as Japan was recovering from the War, American things were much desired, some kids copied the American "Greaser" style of hoodlum so the were called "Yankees" and it stuck around up until today, though it's mostly a caricature used in comedy nowadays. In the episode, they were not behaving like Americans, but like Japanese bullies.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: b8067hc on July 03, 2013, 05:23:36 AM
One of the easiest example of "yankee" or "ヤンキー" in japan is Kishidan/氣志團 (the one that i posted it here (http://forum.jphip.com/index.php?topic=14625.msg1195338#msg1195338)). Here's some pictures of them
(http://www6.kiwi-us.com/~gra24/nng/kissiefolder/kishidan_pin3.jpg)

(http://www6.kiwi-us.com/~gra24/nng/kissiefolder/kishidan_pin_2.jpg)

Yankee "people" tend to rough, break the rules, bad-boyish/bad girlish. But as far as i know, the term "yankee" in idol world slowly shift into more "hot-blooded & grumpy" girls. In Idoling!!! maybe Zumi-san, Fonchi, Hii-chan, (maybe) Ramu-tan sometimes called Yankee.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on July 03, 2013, 06:41:14 AM
There are so many yankee-themed dramas, most of them in high school drama. though most of them portrayed by boys.

In Idoling!!!, Fonchi is the most famous as Yankee character. It started when she wore スカジャン (http://www.yokosuka-jumper.com/200-7020-all.jpg (http://www.yokosuka-jumper.com/200-7020-all.jpg)) to Idoling!!! workplace. Plus she has rather dark personality behind the scene. Since then, any member who has dark personality and/or bad attitude/choice of vocabulary called Yankee; Zumi, Hii-chan. Lately Ruka, Ojima, Ramu. Sometimes Yurippe, Ai-chan, Nomoto, rarely Sakacchi.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Asahi Mon on July 03, 2013, 07:34:37 PM
is this episode 1013 ?  :O
-> くーたんとかおるん (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoSXUdWTM6E#ws)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on July 03, 2013, 08:54:09 PM
^ Yes  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Asahi Mon on July 04, 2013, 01:18:53 AM
^ Yes  :lol:
so  episode 1013 is about kaorun?  :P
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: b8067hc on July 04, 2013, 04:34:06 AM
^^ Well if you haven't watch it, it's pretty awesome episodes about idoling member impersonation or monomane as known in japan. This time Nao-chan doing monomane about kaorun  XD XD PS : You should watch it completely, there are a lot of funny monomane, especially about Ai-chan & Rurika  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Asahi Mon on July 04, 2013, 01:28:14 PM
^^ Well if you haven't watch it, it's pretty awesome episodes about idoling member impersonation or monomane as known in japan. This time Nao-chan doing monomane about kaorun  XD XD PS : You should watch it completely, there are a lot of funny monomane, especially about Ai-chan & Rurika  :lol: :lol:
this episode so hilarious, i just couldn't stop laughing haha... :rofl: 
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Asahi Mon on July 04, 2013, 02:21:48 PM
Oh no! episode 1014 is  Izakaya AD quiz... :O i think we just had that segment last week...what the hell is the producer thinking !  :angry: Please bring back Zenin Seikai itadakimasu Quiz..damn i miss that quiz.  8)2
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on July 04, 2013, 03:22:36 PM
1014 is simply Mori D and Umeko's father talking about Umeko's future. LOL

And Ramu is really a good girl  :wub:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: miitan on July 04, 2013, 03:26:58 PM
And Ramu is really a good girl  :wub:

But she looks like such a bad girl!  :wub:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on July 04, 2013, 05:32:02 PM
DVDBOX Season 15

アイドリング!!! 遠藤舞ヘンタイ問題 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g207tFKZJ8c#ws)
アイドリング!!! 後藤郁問題 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-O0vkebj4c#ws)
アイドリング!!! 外岡えりか下ネタ問題 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl6O7PTSuWo#ws)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Asahi Mon on July 06, 2013, 12:46:08 PM
want to ask in 1014 why ai-chan suddenly become quiet after the first quiz of Izakaya AD quiz, is it becoz she like camera so much?. Umeko also quiet when her father talk to Mori D. need, is it becoz Mori D talk about marriage with her father? some explanation please.thank you  :)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on July 07, 2013, 09:34:59 AM
in the beginning, it was about Uematsu talking about how Ai-chan has changed a lot. She looks tired and they feel that it all started as she began her modelling career. So Ai-chan was quite taken aback by it and masuno finds it really funny because no one dared to talk so much about it.

Next was about Umeko, started off with her father talking about how is Umeko doing in the show and stuff and then he said he wanted to apologize because he wasn't such a good father, he never held her hands whenever they go out together when she was small. Then after that he was chatting with Mori-D and mori D wasking asking for advice about wedding dresses, wedding ceremony and the venue and stuff like that. Mori even said, "will you let me marry your daughter" and he simply replied "it's going to be a tough road for you though". Which pisses Umeko off beyond measure  :lol:

Umeko : What is this? You guys don't care about my answer is it?

Masuno : Just looking at your reaction we already know your answer  XD

Umeko : *died*
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Asahi Mon on July 07, 2013, 11:03:06 AM
in the beginning, it was about Uematsu talking about how Ai-chan has changed a lot. She looks tired and they feel that it all started as she began her modelling career. So Ai-chan was quite taken aback by it and masuno finds it really funny because no one dared to talk so much about it.

Next was about Umeko, started off with her father talking about how is Umeko doing in the show and stuff and then he said he wanted to apologize because he wasn't such a good father, he never held her hands whenever they go out together when she was small. Then after that he was chatting with Mori-D and mori D wasking asking for advice about wedding dresses, wedding ceremony and the venue and stuff like that. Mori even said, "will you let me marry your daughter" and he simply replied "it's going to be a tough road for you though". Which pisses Umeko off beyond measure  :lol:

Umeko : What is this? You guys don't care about my answer is it?

Masuno : Just looking at your reaction we already know your answer  XD

Umeko : *died*
its true ai-chan has been missing from nicohachi live for quite some time. she really is busy doing modelling job.
ooo now i understand thanks kei_86
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: alpngso on July 24, 2013, 04:33:36 PM
1021 was probably the best ep in weeks. Loved it!!
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: LarcKen on July 24, 2013, 05:32:57 PM
We already got 2 singing related show since the new producer took over, and i have to agree with his direction.  :twothumbs
Singing related variety have a great chance of producing an entertaining show. The last 2 of Idoling's are proof of that  :P   

Though for me, that last one could be even better without Masuno jumping in on every song  :yep:
I understand that that's the point of this episode, but some of the song are actually worth to listen to the girls' singing,
Of course it's funny at first, but Masuno jumped in more than twice is already getting stale to look at, not to mention the 10th times  :yawn:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on July 24, 2013, 06:30:49 PM
And some of those songs really prove that these girls can actually sing.
That combined with variety, it gives you a wonderful episode like this. I loved it.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: hellguard89 on July 24, 2013, 07:08:48 PM
Masuno-san is a better singer than most of the girls :nervous
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on July 24, 2013, 10:07:44 PM
Fun episode indeed! I wonder if Masuno has some background in theater or if he had vocal lessons when he was young.   :)
My favorite part was when he was shoving the girls' faces to get screen time.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: alpngso on July 24, 2013, 11:12:02 PM
Masuno rarely tweets about his thoughts on idoling episodes but I guess he really liked it.

Kikuchi and Sakai also tweeted about the episode saying they enjoyed it as well.

@lespros_ami: 升野さんの悪ノリにすぎないけど(笑) RT @BAKARHYTHM: あれだけの番組をやりたいね。RT @lespros_ami: wwwまじ楽しかったですww RT @BAKARHYTHM: CSアイドリング「富士山の頂上で歌おう」の回がすごい。
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: hellguard89 on July 25, 2013, 08:20:54 PM
New members will be revealed on 7/28 17:00 at TIF Doll Stage, and strangely enough Umeko's dad will be performing one song with Umeko on the same day. Probably will be Sannen me no Uwaki since they said that the song is made specially for TIF.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: cicily on August 03, 2013, 08:11:16 AM
Only on Idoling!!!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/q71/s720x720/970644_10152110283764251_1733489380_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: b8067hc on August 03, 2013, 11:04:59 AM
^^ Hahahaaa, Maipuru in action!!!  :lol: :lol: :lol: (her actual self revealed  XD) That must be Ai-chan "high-tension" mimicking (monomane?)
btw which episode is it??
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on August 03, 2013, 02:08:01 PM
^^ Hahahaaa, Maipuru in action!!!  :lol: :lol: :lol: (her actual self revealed  XD) That must be Ai-chan "high-tension" mimicking (monomane?)
btw which episode is it??
#1025
It's "ouendan", the japanese equivalent of cheerleading, but it's usually done by guys dressed in black school uniforms.
Maipuru doesn't do crazy stuff a lot, but when she does, it's awesome XD
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on August 03, 2013, 02:14:28 PM
^^ Hahahaaa, Maipuru in action!!!  :lol: :lol: :lol: (her actual self revealed  XD) That must be Ai-chan "high-tension" mimicking (monomane?)
btw which episode is it??
#1025
It's "ouendan", the japanese equivalent of cheerleading, but it's usually done by guys dressed in black school uniforms.
Maipuru doesn't do crazy stuff a lot, but when she does, it's awesome XD

It was  :lol: What did Oji say to make Ai-chan cry?  XD
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: alpngso on August 03, 2013, 04:47:08 PM
1025 was pretty awesome since they rehashed the episodes that were pretty good in the past.

It's good to see Ai chan has not forgot about her roots.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Asahi Mon on August 05, 2013, 03:05:34 PM
what oji say to okawa ai in episode 1025?
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on August 05, 2013, 05:51:43 PM
Oji : I understand that she is busy as an actress and a model now but can I just be honest right now? Can you please be more serious in the variety show as well?  I'm going to beat you today and bring back the old Ai-chan to Idoling!!!

something along that line.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: neonero on August 06, 2013, 01:01:13 AM
Good episode. The anthology of Ookawa's best gags was funny enough to put a smile on my face but not enough to make me laugh out loud. That being said, I loved the 2nd ouendan part (with Asahi, Kikuchi, Umeko, Maipuru...).
What made me    :lol: XD and :rofl: is the last part with Oji.
Ai-chan (obviously crying) : Last time when Ojima defeated me I cried, but this time it was a good fight, I lost but I didn't cry
...
Masuno : Shoubu na sekai desu kara make wa make nan desu ! Yoroshi desu ka ?
Ai-chan : Demo ganbatta n dakedo...


 :rofl:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: b8067hc on August 21, 2013, 07:51:09 AM
Does anyone know which episode is this?? I think i missed this  :roll: :roll:

マリッジブルー (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVWgFTqfAQs#noexternalembed-ws)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on August 21, 2013, 08:06:06 AM
^ ep 1000

=====================

Did you guys watch 1031 already?
Reia's professionalism. XD

I've seen Amimi, Ai, and Ojima's sexy pose but WTH Kurumin & Reia. XD
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: b8067hc on August 28, 2013, 07:01:16 AM
#1033 : 6th new-gen member in action
From latest episode, i think i can conclude character of the new member, here is my remarks on them :

#31 Mayu-1 : very talkactive & showoff-type, she will be "spotlight" member, the next Amimi  :lol:
#32 Mayu-2 : nice-girl type, also show full of potential as an ace due to her voice quality. Typical Ton-chan & Ruri type
#33 Ruka-2 (Ruka-1 will be Kurata  XD) or Hashimoto-2 (the 1st will be Kaepyon  XD) : 180o different than her big sister, more honest & straight forward, maybe will be next Asahi/Umeko???  XD
#34 Rena : Seems like a shy & quiet girl-type, somehow her character isn't fully shown yet. need more observation...  8)
#35 Mike-chan or Wako-chan :  :lol: :lol: easy to conclude, bizarre, full of gag, fun-maker, all you name it. I'm predict she will cheers the next Idoling!!! show due to her funny character. Successor of all time funny member like Miraccho, Yazapai, Naorin  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SomethingWild on August 28, 2013, 10:58:16 AM
#1033 was pretty damn brutal. I hope Leia doesn't jump from a building after that episode.  :nervous

Also, Rukapyon has the thinnest legs I have ever seen. She must weigh like 20 KG total  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kimoi-kun on August 28, 2013, 03:01:27 PM
...Rukapyon has the thinnest legs I have ever seen. She must weigh like 20 KG total  :lol:

My thoughts exactly...  :shocked


If Masuno-san ever smacks her on the head, she's gonna break!  :nervous
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on August 28, 2013, 03:25:28 PM
#1033 was pretty damn brutal. I hope Leia doesn't jump from a building after that episode.  :nervous

Also, Rukapyon has the thinnest legs I have ever seen. She must weigh like 20 KG total  :lol:

27 kg she said  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on August 28, 2013, 03:45:53 PM
...Rukapyon has the thinnest legs I have ever seen. She must weigh like 20 KG total  :lol:

My thoughts exactly...  :shocked


If Masuno-san ever smacks her on the head, she's gonna break!  :nervous

Let's wait haha but considering he favors her more than Kaede, I feel Kaede's gonna get more slaps haha!
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: alpngso on September 12, 2013, 04:13:38 AM
1039. had high hopes for this episode when i saw the title 'shuffle two shot'.

boy, it seemed pretty rigged to begin with but that's ok, i've seen japanese shows many times so 'yarase' doesn't bother me.

but this mori director x kawamura thing is really getting tiresome. i liked for first couple times but gawd.... they are milking this thing forever.

Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: b8067hc on September 12, 2013, 10:01:35 AM
@1033 also we see that so many "interactive" in new-gen, especially #31 (showoff style), #33 (honest) & #35 (funny)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: LarcKen on September 12, 2013, 11:48:40 AM
I don't think they're going to stop until the two actually married  :rofl:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: nikorai on September 12, 2013, 11:59:08 PM
Hello everyone.

I found myself watching idoling tv program again.
Can I ask, do you know the songs playing on the background in episode #1039? A hint would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on September 14, 2013, 12:50:31 PM
Hello everyone.

I found myself watching idoling tv program again.
Can I ask, do you know the songs playing on the background in episode #1039? A hint would be greatly appreciated.
At what moment? Cause there are several songs, but it's mostly just the usual bgm.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: nikorai on September 15, 2013, 06:07:57 PM
Hatix
Quote
At what moment?
The first one is a beatles-like song heard for example at 9:20~9:30, 13:20~13:30 and 28:20~28:30.
For example, it’s heard at 10:40~10:50 and 24:10~24:30 (most audibly). The lyrics seem to be like “come on baby everything’s alright” but unfortunately I can’t guess beyond that.

Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hajime_Saito on September 16, 2013, 10:53:50 PM
Wow, Diss-Card was awesome, might as well be a show on it own if it's not already.
Excelent choice on the culprit as well.  :lol:
Hope we see more of it.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on September 17, 2013, 04:08:14 AM
Wow, Diss-Card was awesome, might as well be a show on it own if it's not already.
Excelent choice on the culprit as well.  :lol:
Hope we see more of it.

How can you doubt the most loved member of the group haha  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Asahi Mon on September 17, 2013, 07:53:23 AM
Wow, Diss-Card was awesome, might as well be a show on it own if it's not already.
Excelent choice on the culprit as well.  :lol:
Hope we see more of it.
so is not sumo game huhu
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: b8067hc on September 19, 2013, 03:33:16 AM
#1041 : Quote of the day, Ojima = Baka Narcicst Girl  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: cicily on September 20, 2013, 06:25:37 PM
Only on Idoling!!! is it considered normal for the MC to put an idol in a headlock between his legs with her upskirt in full view of the camera.

(http://i.imgur.com/Pr1OQf3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: miitan on September 20, 2013, 06:31:55 PM
Aichan got it worse, even for a gravure idol this is a bit much.  :shocked:
(http://i.imgur.com/yuUlYFEh.jpg)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: neonero on September 28, 2013, 09:24:04 PM
Loved episodes 1041, 1042 and 1044. :grin:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SomethingWild on October 21, 2013, 02:01:45 PM
Episode 1053: the entire episode I waited for Chika to sit on 22KG Ruka...

...and they knew everybody wanted to see that so they stretched it out until the very end.  :nervous

Part me of feels that a 40 minute ep on such a ridiculous theme is a bit much, but on the other hand we did get some hilarious sights and comments  :lol:

Poor Karen. lol
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kimoi-kun on October 22, 2013, 01:45:28 PM
Well, if this new segment becomes a regular, it unfortunately rules out some of the members...  :(

'Cause I don't think any of Maipuru's fetish is "clean" enough to be exposed on TV!   :grin:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: miitan on October 22, 2013, 04:15:57 PM
Haha, Karen "Guardrail" Ishidashi  :D
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on October 22, 2013, 04:22:02 PM
Well, there's already a second episode #1057 planned next week (10/30) following the same theme, subtitled: 尻編 / Shiri hen.
I don't know what to expect of this...  :P

Will we see Maipuru (or someone else) touching everybody's bottom and rank them?  XD
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kimoi-kun on October 22, 2013, 06:12:37 PM
...
Will we see Maipuru (or someone else) touching everybody's bottom and rank them?  XD

WooHoo!!!  :shakeit:  :w00t:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: b8067hc on October 23, 2013, 04:28:03 AM
Well, there's already a second episode #1057 planned next week (10/30) following the same theme, subtitled: 尻編 / Shiri hen.
I don't know what to expect of this...  :P

Will we see Maipuru (or someone else) touching everybody's bottom and rank them?  XD

There's only a few member suspected for this "perverted theme"  :drool: :drool: Ojima already, Maipuru is one of the suspect  :drool: :drool:
ps : i've been waiting for this or ganbaringu!!! kinda episodes than other talk-segment  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kimoi-kun on October 23, 2013, 01:26:04 PM
There's only a few member suspected for this "perverted theme"  :drool: :drool: Ojima already, Maipuru is one of the suspect  :drool: :drool:
ps : i've been waiting for this or ganbaringu!!! kinda episodes than other talk-segment  :lol: :lol:

Perverted theme + Ganbaringu!!! = GangBangringu!!!  :shocked:

Way too hardcore for our girls, but I guess that "Ebisu Muscats" could try that.  :grin:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SomethingWild on October 30, 2013, 10:25:57 AM
#1056 泣ける歌アイドリング!!!

Interesting concept. I wish all performances would have the same level of emotion Asahi and Ramu put in their songs.  :thumbup

Can't wait to see the other members do it too. I can't image Tonooka bursting into tears during a song  :O2
Ruka should be good too. She always strikes me a super kind person with a heart of gold. She'll cry for sure.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: miitan on October 31, 2013, 01:08:48 AM
Only Idoling!!! would do and hour long anniversary special focused on "sharts".
Happy Birthday!   :yep:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on November 02, 2013, 09:35:28 AM
Anybody seen 1058?  :) Maipuru got bakka slap from Masuno, wonder what she said that made Kaede shy?  XD
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Post by: SuzukiRyo on November 02, 2013, 09:46:59 AM
My ears caught maipuru said ピンク色, a pink (color). So, when you talk about "girl's hidden body part" and say it's a pink, well, you know. :lol:
That is why she got a slap.

CMIIW translators
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on November 02, 2013, 10:01:42 AM
My ears caught maipuru said ピンク色, a pink (color). So, when you talk about "girl's hidden body part" and say it's a pink, well, you know. :lol:
That is why she got a slap.

CMIIW translators

 :lol: Hahaha that's why Kaede always feels weird when Maipuru tries to touch her. Naughty Maipuru  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on November 03, 2013, 11:04:23 AM
Pink in japan refers to porn. It is the equavalent of what Blue is to most other countries. So a Pink Movie is a Porn movie.

So in that context, it was pretty much talking about how erotic it is  :lol:

Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kimoi-kun on November 04, 2013, 11:27:17 PM
Well, there's already a second episode #1057 planned next week (10/30) following the same theme, subtitled: 尻編 / Shiri hen.
I don't know what to expect of this...  :P

Will we see Maipuru (or someone else) touching everybody's bottom and rank them?  XD

Except from the episode number, that prediction was spot on!!!  :D


Well, there wasn't any really emphasized touching, but Maipuru is the oshiri-pro of the group for sure.  :grin:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: b8067hc on November 05, 2013, 07:09:49 PM
^^ Absolutely...  XD XD Maipuru Hentai's character really help her through this episode  :lol: :lol: btw i am really appreciated if anyone can translate it, because there are lots of new words & conversations..
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: 123SillyBlast on November 16, 2013, 06:31:20 PM
I just watched episode #1061. I must say I remember a previous show or Gekkan Idoling!!! in which they cleaned up Mori-san's apartment, but I don't remember it being quite that bad. He is literally living in filth. Please, somebody tell me that they deliberately messed up and soiled the rooms before the show. I would be shocked if they didn't.

On the other hand, it was a much welcome platform for some Hii-chan goodness. I think she's one of the more underutilized members these days. An aweful waste. Her reactions and expressions are very likeable if you thrust her into a situation that warrants them.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on November 16, 2013, 08:06:14 PM
I just watched episode #1061. I must say I remember a previous show or Gekkan Idoling!!! in which they cleaned up Mori-san's apartment, but I don't remember it being quite that bad. He is literally living in filth. Please, somebody tell me that they deliberately messed up and soiled the rooms before the show. I would be shocked if they didn't.

On the other hand, it was a much welcome platform for some Hii-chan goodness. I think she's one of the more underutilized members these days. An aweful waste. Her reactions and expressions are very likeable if you thrust her into a situation that warrants them.

Yeah I kinda thought of that too but I think it's too much of a hassle to make a place dirty for one episode? But we'll never know haha! I remembered it was more of a mess in the old episode or maybe because there were more beer cans.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on November 17, 2013, 02:39:46 AM
For those wanting to see the previous 2 occasions:
- #509 (2009/05/22)
- Mori-D no Ie Kara 2010 Saikai (it's a Season DVD extra)

The first time was pretty messy too, the second time it was less messy and only 1 year after the first clean-up.

I think they really throw some extra stuff in to make it look worse, but this time it looked really bad, especially the bathroom. But I thought the amount of footage inside the apartment was so little compared to the amount of a mess it was. Why go to so much trouble and only show like 10 minutes of it? I have a feeling we might see a continuation of this later on, since we didn't actually get to see the final fully cleaned-up apartment in the end.
What if the punishment game for the Idoling!!! vs Idoling NEO single battle is further cleaning up his apartment? Which was in fact the original punishment for the first clean-up, when it was also a battle between teams to get the highest selling single. It's just a wild guess but the timing might be right, but then again, why already show an episode with it? I'm more inclined to think there will be another episode with part 2.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on November 17, 2013, 04:26:16 PM
For those wanting to see the previous 2 occasions:
- #509 (2009/05/22)
- Mori-D no Ie Kara 2010 Saikai (it's a Season DVD extra)

The first time was pretty messy too, the second time it was less messy and only 1 year after the first clean-up.

I think they really throw some extra stuff in to make it look worse, but this time it looked really bad, especially the bathroom. But I thought the amount of footage inside the apartment was so little compared to the amount of a mess it was. Why go to so much trouble and only show like 10 minutes of it? I have a feeling we might see a continuation of this later on, since we didn't actually get to see the final fully cleaned-up apartment in the end.
What if the punishment game for the Idoling!!! vs Idoling NEO single battle is further cleaning up his apartment? Which was in fact the original punishment for the first clean-up, when it was also a battle between teams to get the highest selling single. It's just a wild guess but the timing might be right, but then again, why already show an episode with it? I'm more inclined to think there will be another episode with part 2.

Will get the second from our favorite place.  :) Yeah that's too much trouble for a 10 minute episode, I'm kinda hoping NEO gets a different punishment though.  :)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: 123SillyBlast on November 21, 2013, 11:50:29 AM
Does anyone know what that weird cut at the end of #1062 was about?
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on November 23, 2013, 12:03:16 PM
since this one is an edited broadcast, they didn't want to go over until On Demand I and Rukapyon was talking longer than expected. So I assume that's the reason for the weird cut, they want to end the episode exactly according to the time slot.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: LarcKen on December 09, 2013, 08:06:03 AM
るかちゃんのたびだち (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5C3Hqqb75A#ws)
 XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD
Seriously, funniest Idoling moments since awhile
That 'vibrato'  XD
For me, that is the moment she finally became a 'true' Idoling member  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Vfujit on December 12, 2013, 09:53:01 PM
Next week there will be an episode where they will hold a "press conference" on Takiguchi Mira's marriage!

There will also be a 1-hour special on the fourth of january called Hakune Ekiden SP. I wonder whether Neko Hiroshi will be present again.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: miitan on December 13, 2013, 04:55:20 AM
るかちゃんのたびだち (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5C3Hqqb75A#ws)
 XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD
Seriously, funniest Idoling moments since awhile
That 'vibrato'  XD
For me, that is the moment she finally became a 'true' Idoling member  :lol:

Awww, the video is set to "private" now.  :(
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: winner on December 18, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
I guess tripping the bride would be bad manners, so they had to go with the next best thing. :P

(http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/kyot777/misc/snapshot_2634_20131219_031544.jpg~original)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: b8067hc on December 19, 2013, 03:46:11 AM
^^ Nice to see Miracho back in action (now as a wife, omdettou!!!  :love: :love:), she's still funny like before  XD, However Moriyama Mira (as her husband Moriyama Makoto family name) have a deep feeling for Idoling in her letter :cry: :cry: that's so emotional, even to the new member (which came after Miraccho graduation)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SomethingWild on December 31, 2013, 12:01:21 PM
Idoling!!! - 131219 #1075

I'm usually not into the blatant girl torture episodes, but one was just hilarious throughout.
Loved the way they sang the Xmas songs with minimal rehearsal.
This is the kind of episode only Idoling can pull off. Hideous CG background included. lol


Idoling!!! - 131229 #1078

(http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip17984.jpg)

(http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip17985.jpg)

(http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip17986.jpg)

(http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip17987.jpg)

(http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip17988.jpg)

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: 123SillyBlast on December 31, 2013, 05:48:39 PM
Idoling!!! - 131219 #1075

I'm usually not into the blatant girl torture episodes, but one was just hilarious throughout.
Loved the way they sang the Xmas songs with minimal rehearsal.
This is the kind of episode only Idoling can pull off. Hideous CG background included. lol
Interesting. I didn't particularly like this episode. The segment was funny when it still seemed as though Masuno was mischievously sabotaging the "regular programming". But now – it's the third or so installment of this segment – his antics have become the regular programming and they merely amped up the physical abuse that the girls have to suffer. That didn't make it more but less funny, in my opinion. It seemed forced. But I'd be interested to hear what others think.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on December 31, 2013, 05:54:41 PM
Idoling!!! - 131219 #1075

I'm usually not into the blatant girl torture episodes, but one was just hilarious throughout.
Loved the way they sang the Xmas songs with minimal rehearsal.
This is the kind of episode only Idoling can pull off. Hideous CG background included. lol
Interesting. I didn't particularly like this episode. The segment was funny when it still seemed as though Masuno was mischievously sabotaging the "regular programming". But now – it's the third or so installment of this segment – his antics have become the regular programming and they merely amped up the physical abuse that the girls have to suffer. That didn't make it more but less funny, in my opinion. It seemed forced. But I'd be interested to hear what others think.
I know what you are trying to say, I guess they weren't able to pick something for a Christmas episode so they stuck with something that they thought that is tried and tested. Looking forward to the NEO vs Staff episodes this new year though.  :)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SomethingWild on December 31, 2013, 05:57:58 PM
his antics have become the regular programming and they merely amped up the physical abuse that the girls have to suffer. That didn't make it more but less funny, in my opinion. It seemed forced. But I'd be interested to hear what others think.

Yeah, this I can agree with. Like halfway throught the ep I thought "ah, it's all set up after all"  :oops:

Best part for me was not the torture, but the way they rotated and tried to sing the Xmas songs as best as possible.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: miitan on December 31, 2013, 07:10:24 PM
I thought it was funny and enjoyed he episode. Of course they know what's gonna happen now, that's what makes it funnier. I mean, why else would they be wearing t-shirts and gym shorts to sing Christmas carols?  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: 123SillyBlast on January 01, 2014, 06:40:54 PM
Idoling!!! - 131229 #1078

http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip17984.jpg (http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip17984.jpg)
http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip17985.jpg (http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip17985.jpg)
http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip17986.jpg (http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip17986.jpg)
http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip17987.jpg (http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip17987.jpg)
http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip17988.jpg (http://picroda.jphip.com/japanese/jphip17988.jpg)

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I just got around to watching it. Now that was a funny episode, especially Asahi's parts :lol:, slightly irritating though it was that the video switcher was apparently operated by a monkey   :smhid.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: elitedx on January 05, 2014, 04:50:38 PM
So I was watching old Idoling!!! episodes and stubmled upon a question someone here might answer.

Episode #944. The one about Asahi, is she a girl or boy episode. At the end of the episode around the 32 minute mark, Masuno-san says something like "next time, Itou Yuuna's movement, is it original? or a rip-off?". Did that episode get cancelled?  :?
Thanks,
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on January 05, 2014, 05:07:34 PM
It never happened. It was just a suggestion/idea from Masuno.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: elitedx on January 05, 2014, 05:17:28 PM
ok, thanks. :) It would of been fun to watch.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: miitan on January 05, 2014, 07:05:21 PM
ok, thanks. :) It would of been fun to watch.

Yeah but there is really no doubt as to the answer on that one.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on January 11, 2014, 09:27:31 PM
Episode 1080: Was the chair suppose to fold or fall down but Ruka was so light that it didn't happen?  :lol: And did Kaede cheated by using only the tail of her costume?  XD
(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u568/idolingkyugo/Rukaepyon_zpsd436ddaf.jpg)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: winner on January 12, 2014, 11:32:25 AM
And did Kaede cheated by using only the tail of her costume?  XD
Compared to all the other things they did in these 2 episodes, I'd say that was indisputably fair. :lol:
I totally loved these 2 episodes. Its like a big "Welcome to Idoling!!!" special for the NEO girls. :D

Off-topic question: So they did that Idoling!!! vs NEO single sales thing. And there was a punishment for the losing team. Have they aired the actual punishment yet?
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on January 12, 2014, 11:42:05 AM
And did Kaede cheated by using only the tail of her costume?  XD
Compared to all the other things they did in these 2 episodes, I'd say that was indisputably fair. :lol:
I totally loved these 2 episodes. Its like a big "Welcome to Idoling!!!" special for the NEO girls. :D

Off-topic question: So they did that Idoling!!! vs NEO single sales thing. And there was a punishment for the losing team. Have they aired the actual punishment yet?

Hiichan had a blast watching the Hashimoto sisters.  :lol: Yeah great episodes haha!
I think they haven't done it yet. I'm not really looking forward to it since it doesn't really look like a punishment considering the have to wear those costumes.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kei_86 on January 14, 2014, 06:38:02 AM
Episode 1080: Was the chair suppose to fold or fall down but Ruka was so light that it didn't happen?  :lol: And did Kaede cheated by using only the tail of her costume?  XD
(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u568/idolingkyugo/Rukaepyon_zpsd436ddaf.jpg)

it was supposed to be difficult to measure the range between you and the chair. The costume should've made it hard as well, but Rukapyon is just a genius~
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kimoi-kun on January 14, 2014, 08:46:48 PM
...At the end of the episode around the 32 minute mark, Masuno-san says something like "next time, Itou Yuuna's movement, is it original? or a rip-off?". Did that episode get cancelled?  :?
Thanks,

It never happened. It was just a suggestion/idea from Masuno.

However... This touchy subject was previously discussed, and Yuna was put under heavy questioning during episode #846 (2012/13/03).

It was the second edition in the "Imitation Championship" series, but somehow, it completely derailed at some point!  :nervous



ok, thanks. :) It would of been fun to watch.

Yeah but there is really no doubt as to the answer on that one.  :lol:

True...  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Asahi Mon on January 20, 2014, 12:10:17 AM
Episode 1080: Was the chair suppose to fold or fall down but Ruka was so light that it didn't happen?  :lol: And did Kaede cheated by using only the tail of her costume?  XD
(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u568/idolingkyugo/Rukaepyon_zpsd436ddaf.jpg)
really love this episode both rukaepyon and kaede are super kawaii wearing that costume  :wub:. watch it several times...couldnt stop laughing  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: elitedx on January 24, 2014, 03:47:21 AM
little late, but any guesses to what the letter contained in epsiode 1080. it was towards the end of the episode. my guess is that they told someone they want out of NEO group or that they can't get along with NEO. only guessing here...since they didn't want to show the viewers what the letter said.  :smhid
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: LarcKen on January 24, 2014, 10:03:48 AM
^ That's a good guess, considering they didn't even show it to the 5 NEO ki members  :nervous
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on January 24, 2014, 11:08:56 AM
...my guess is that they told someone they want out of NEO group or that they can't get along with NEO.

I think your no-good-to-show-to-the-viewer threshold is too low for Idoling!!!
If they just want to be out of NEO, no need to write it on a paper. It's still fine to show to the viewer and likely laughable, unless they talked about a specific person, or talked about the producer is a shit for dividing the core fans into two by introducing shitty neo project, or talked about the producer should just disband the shitty main group and continue the neo project.

Everything is not surprising for me about how good Yuna and Kaoru handle older people and higher staff. It's not a bad thing though, just sounds a bit b... oh well nevermind.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: LarcKen on January 24, 2014, 04:33:13 PM
^ Well if you want to look more into it. Of course it's fun material if they only want to make the [How YuuKao wanted out of NEO] thing your usual Idoling banter.
But it's another story if what was written on the paper contains some serious off stage 'evidence' of how YuuKao didn't like NEO-ki.
Example: "Staff A said that he/she overheard that the two of them talked down on NEO-ki, saying that NEO-ki are a bunch of loud mouthed bitches" 
OMG that sounds terribly rude  XD of course it's just a joke  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: neonero on January 26, 2014, 10:15:41 PM
Just watched the AD's VS NEO episodes. Funny way to show NEO where is their place in the Idoling!!! hierarchy.

Have you noticed that the only reproof made to Furuhashi Mayu was that (totally fanciful) "Wiiiii!" greeting adressed to Uematsu ? I did, and I guess that means they had nothing to say against her.
F. Mayu is in my opinion the more enigmatic NEO member. But the more I observe her the more I'm convinced she's a good person.

And congratulations to AD team for their indisputable victory.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: elitedx on January 27, 2014, 01:37:58 AM
Just watched the AD's VS NEO episodes. Funny way to show NEO where is their place in the Idoling!!! hierarchy.

Have you noticed that the only reproof made to Furuhashi Mayu was that (totally fanciful) "Wiiiii!" greeting adressed to Uematsu ? I did, and I guess that means they had nothing to say against her.
F. Mayu is in my opinion the more enigmatic NEO member. But the more I observe her the more I'm convinced she's a good person.

And congratulations to AD team for their indisputable victory.

totally agree about furumayu. she starting to grow on me, i like her energy and attitude. i hope she stays the same.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: winner on January 27, 2014, 05:30:47 AM
^ Yup Yup. The force is strong in that one. :)
Furuhashi has serious potential to be my favourite Idoling member. Crazy feat considering the NEO girls have only joined for such a short time.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: neonero on February 06, 2014, 04:48:45 PM
#1088 was great. Everything was so perfect. Best Dis Card Game so far.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: b8067hc on February 07, 2014, 03:59:29 AM
^^ That's right, Kaepyon actually have a sharp tongue  :lol: :lol: She pwned Ruka, Nao-rin, Ishida-shi & Sakacchi  XD XD
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Blue_Sweater on February 08, 2014, 10:38:08 AM
Episode 1088 is really funny! I have not actually seen an episode of Dis no Card game before and am curious to go back to find out some more though. Kaede sets a pretty high standard for other episodes to follow though:)Kaede is such a cute devil coming up with all those comments!
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Asahi Mon on February 09, 2014, 05:24:32 AM
^^ That's right, Kaepyon actually have a sharp tongue  :lol: :lol: She pwned Ruka, Nao-rin, Ishida-shi & Sakacchi  XD XD
kaepyon showed her potential in episode 1089...her acting was superb haha serina got pawn with her sharp tongue haha  :thumbup
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: 123SillyBlast on February 19, 2014, 07:35:02 PM
I just watched the Valentine + Maipuru-Graduation special. Hashimoto Ruka's reading that letter was the most hilarious thing ever. :lol: XD
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on May 21, 2014, 02:46:54 PM
Episode 1125, anybody understood how someone oshihen from Ruri to Oji?  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: miitan on May 21, 2014, 03:06:17 PM
I can think of a couple of big reasons.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on May 21, 2014, 03:12:06 PM
I can think of a couple of big reasons.
Well have you seen it? Still not good with Japanese LOL!
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: miitan on May 21, 2014, 03:27:47 PM
I can think of a couple of big reasons.
Well have you seen it? Still not good with Japanese LOL!
I'll watch it as soon as I can DL it. If nobody else answers, I'll let you know!  :thumbsup
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SuzukiRyo on May 21, 2014, 05:20:37 PM
Episode 1125, anybody understood how someone oshihen from Ruri to Oji?  :lol:

Rurika's goods are easily sold out. That's why. :P
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Hatix on May 21, 2014, 09:19:56 PM
Episode 1125, anybody understood how someone oshihen from Ruri to Oji?  :lol:

Rurika's goods are easily sold out. That's why. :P

although, usually Oji's goods sell out quick too, because they don't have a lot of stock :P
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on May 22, 2014, 03:41:06 AM
That fan could have line up a lot of times and ended up with nothing.  :lol: This guy have to find a middle ground.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: kimoi-kun on May 22, 2014, 03:52:33 PM
I can think of a couple of big reasons.

Do they weight about 500g each?  :grin:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on May 29, 2014, 09:29:59 AM
1128 was a great episode. On Demand Asahi as icing on the cake.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: LarcKen on May 29, 2014, 10:57:08 AM
Yeah, that episode have a perfect concept for Idoling!!!   :P
It has all the crazy comical side of Idoling while at the same time exposing the girls' cuteness  :heart: (which is lacking in the show most of the time)
I can't stop replaying Kurumin's story  :inlove:

Thumbs up for the production staff  :twothumbs Keep at it producer  8)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on May 29, 2014, 01:05:10 PM
Yeah, that episode have a perfect concept for Idoling!!!   :P
It has all the crazy comical side of Idoling while at the same time exposing the girls' cuteness  :heart: (which is lacking in the show most of the time)
I can't stop replaying Kurumin's story  :inlove:

Thumbs up for the production staff  :twothumbs Keep at it producer  8)

Yeah!  :thumbsup As for me I really liked Kaepyon's part, so cute  :heart: :twothumbs
I was kinda hoping to see Ruri act it out but it just featured Kyupi's main vocals.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: winner on September 02, 2014, 04:54:02 PM
Idoling!!! - 20140901 #1161 Search for words you should never search for?
I searched up all the words, since they told us not to. :P

For the guys who think they can handle it, just click the search word when the members see it. :D
For the faint of heart. :)
Added a scare-factor score. And a comment in small letters describing what the search gets.
Please check those first if you don't want a scare, so you have a basic idea before clicking the search word.

ベジタリアン プーケット (https://www.google.com.hk/search?biw=1360&bih=670&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=%E3%83%99%E3%82%B8%E3%82%BF%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A2%E3%83%B3+%E3%83%97%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B1%E3%83%83%E3%83%88&oq=%E3%83%99%E3%82%B8%E3%82%BF%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A2%E3%83%B3+%E3%83%97%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B1%E3%83%83%E3%83%88&gs_l=img.12..0.371869.371869.0.373479.1.1.0.0.0.0.136.136.0j1.1.0....0...1c..52.img..0.1.136.CH6B18eIa68)
scare factor: 5  Pics of people putting sharp blades through their faces. Gruesome. But its kinda traditional.

ピパピパ (https://www.google.com.hk/search?biw=1360&bih=670&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=%E3%83%94%E3%83%91%E3%83%94%E3%83%91&oq=%E3%83%94%E3%83%91%E3%83%94%E3%83%91&gs_l=img.12...0.0.1.400683.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..52.img..0.1.145.zIg6fGevyjg)
scare factor: 3  Pics of the Surinam Toad. A toad that hatches its eggs on its back. (LOL. Kinda reminds me of those units in Starcraft 2. I love those units!)

サム君 三年連続 優勝 (https://www.google.com.hk/search?biw=1360&bih=670&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=%E3%82%B5%E3%83%A0%E5%90%9B+%E4%B8%89%E5%B9%B4%E9%80%A3%E7%B6%9A+%E5%84%AA%E5%8B%9D&oq=%E3%82%B5%E3%83%A0%E5%90%9B+%E4%B8%89%E5%B9%B4%E9%80%A3%E7%B6%9A+%E5%84%AA%E5%8B%9D&gs_l=img.12..0.106487.106487.0.107424.1.1.0.0.0.0.100.100.0j1.1.0....0...1c..52.img..0.1.99.sy4hJDULQ28)
scare factor: 5  Pics of Sam, triple-winner of the Ugliest Dog in the World in 2003-2005

郵便受け 女性 (https://www.google.com.hk/search?biw=1360&bih=670&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=%E9%83%B5%E4%BE%BF%E5%8F%97%E3%81%91+%E5%A5%B3%E6%80%A7&oq=%E9%83%B5%E4%BE%BF%E5%8F%97%E3%81%91+%E5%A5%B3%E6%80%A7&gs_l=img.12...413249.413249.0.414218.1.1.0.0.0.0.244.244.2-1.1.0....0...1c..52.img..1.0.0.67et71Kx2_w)
scare factor: 6  The 2nd pic. A woman's face showing inside a letterbox. Instant shock, but it's not really that scary. And the 1st pic with the cute girl softens the blow

[noembed]ヒヨコ飯 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2of2ZuUfoo)[/noembed][/b] (Yeah, the one Masuno forced like 5 members to watch) :lol:
scare factor: 10  A video of a snake slowly slowly swallowing a chick, that keeps chirping all through the vid. The members probably had nightmares after recording this episode.

開けた瞬間 法師 飛び出し (https://www.google.com.hk/search?biw=1360&bih=670&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=%E9%96%8B%E3%81%91%E3%81%9F%E7%9E%AC%E9%96%93+%E6%B3%95%E5%B8%AB+%E9%A3%9B%E3%81%B3%E5%87%BA%E3%81%97&oq=%E9%96%8B%E3%81%91%E3%81%9F%E7%9E%AC%E9%96%93+%E6%B3%95%E5%B8%AB+%E9%A3%9B%E3%81%B3%E5%87%BA%E3%81%97&gs_l=img.12...657079.657079.0.658002.1.1.0.0.0.0.187.187.0j1.1.0....0...1c.1.52.img..1.0.0.FaPdEsgpOyI)
scare factor: 2  The first pic. What was found when leaving an unclean rice cooker for 1/2 a year. I don't have a rice cooker, so I'm totally fine with this one.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: Vfujit on September 02, 2014, 10:41:55 PM
In the beginning they referenced another show, that aired a couple of months (?) ago, that was very similar in concept. But on that show, of which Becky was the MC I believe, they actually showed the footages. The title was also very similar!

But I kind of expected the last picture or footage to be related to an Idoling member like last time with Kawamura.

Yeah, that episode have a perfect concept for Idoling!!!   :P
It has all the crazy comical side of Idoling while at the same time exposing the girls' cuteness  :heart: (which is lacking in the show most of the time)
I can't stop replaying Kurumin's story  :inlove:

Thumbs up for the production staff  :twothumbs Keep at it producer  8)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: winner on October 10, 2014, 04:37:34 PM
8th year anniversary group pic~ :heart:

(http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/kyot777/misc/idoling/141010_0355.jpg~original)
https://twitter.com/hitomi_miyake/status/520527954514681857 (https://twitter.com/hitomi_miyake/status/520527954514681857)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: winner on November 11, 2014, 07:36:25 PM
Idoling!!! - 20141110 #1186 Search for words you should never search for?

Another online search episode. This time just video searches.
Just click on the links below when the members start watching them in the show.
Same warning. For the faint of heart. :)
Added a scare-factor score. And a comment in small letters describing what the search gets.
Please check those first if you don't want a scare, so you have a basic idea before clicking the search word.

[noembed]道 びっくり (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKwTqrQhozU)[/noembed]
scare factor: 8  Starts off looking like a car commercial, but near the end a zombie jumps out.

[noembed]マムシ君 自身 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00Qi_Q2SDhk)[/noembed]
scare factor: 10  A snake. With its head cut off, and its body still moving. The cut snake head then suddenly bites its own body.

[noembed]Faroe Whale (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X0hq0ug9q4)[/noembed]
scare factor: 6  A sperm whale carcass getting poked at. Suddenly its insides explodes and flies straight out its side. Then a shot of all the bloody guts on the floor.

[noembed]Spider Nest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kTQQ9_6AZ0)[/noembed]
scare factor: 4  A shot of a garden fence, zooming into what looks like a flower on it. Moving closer , it disperses into hundreds of little spiders.

[noembed]Toad Eye (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ0lqK9bXcg)[/noembed]
scare factor: 10  A toad, with a worm parasite swimming around in its right eyeball.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: LarcKen on July 03, 2015, 06:53:55 AM
Alright, though i think they're overdoing it for Yoshiko, 7ki is worth it even just to watch the members' reactions  :lol:
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll311/LarcKen/AKB48/th_3ffb95ce.jpg) (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/LarcKen/media/AKB48/3ffb95ce.jpg.html)
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll311/LarcKen/AKB48/th_1e622626.jpg) (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/LarcKen/media/AKB48/1e622626.jpg.html)
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll311/LarcKen/AKB48/th_149fac6e.jpg) (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/LarcKen/media/AKB48/149fac6e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: idolingkyugo on July 08, 2015, 03:51:43 AM
Alright, though i think they're overdoing it for Yoshiko, 7ki is worth it even just to watch the members' reactions  :lol:
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll311/LarcKen/AKB48/th_3ffb95ce.jpg) (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/LarcKen/media/AKB48/3ffb95ce.jpg.html)
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll311/LarcKen/AKB48/th_1e622626.jpg) (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/LarcKen/media/AKB48/1e622626.jpg.html)
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll311/LarcKen/AKB48/th_149fac6e.jpg) (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/LarcKen/media/AKB48/149fac6e.jpg.html)

It was a good episode although I felt like Kaede and Rukapyon knew that Natsuki was joining.  XD
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: winner on July 16, 2015, 05:06:38 AM
1st gen party night before Sayanee's wedding =
- every 5 min. Sayanee showing that hand with the wedding ring. happiness~ :D
- every 3 minutes. everybody saying sorry to Morimoto. :rofl:
- every now and then. Tonooka and Yokoyama weird stare at these non-idol women.
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SoloQueue on October 03, 2015, 12:36:01 AM
In episode 1294 Umeko inadvertently insulted Hii-chan basically strongly implying she is boring and the reason Umeko doesn't stand out/get airtime. Hii-chan didn't even offer rebuttal either. May leave some lasting damage. :?
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: winner on October 05, 2015, 05:02:04 AM
In episode 1294 Umeko inadvertently insulted Hii-chan basically strongly implying she is boring and the reason Umeko doesn't stand out/get airtime. Hii-chan didn't even offer rebuttal either. May leave some lasting damage. :?
I wouldn't be so worried. They're from the same gen and have been together for years. Considering its the end of the show, being honest might be a good thing.
And being candid is one of the main things that made Idoling stand out from other idol groups. right? :)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: winner on October 31, 2015, 06:37:09 PM
Watched the final episode of Idoling!!!. Didn't think they'd do the same thing from the first episode(?). :nervous

(http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/kyot777/misc/idoling/snapshot_00.05.37_2015.11.01_01.13.54.jpg~original)

It was nice they used the whole show for members to seriously give their final words as Idoling members. Lotsa touching thanks, and looking back on their time in the group. :heart:
Thanks for 10 years of Idoling!!!~ :wub:

(http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/kyot777/misc/idoling/151029_0806.jpg~original)

(http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/kyot777/misc/idoling/151029_0817aa.jpg~original)
Title: Re: The Idoling!!! Episode Discussion Thread *spoiler alert*
Post by: SoloQueue on November 04, 2015, 12:02:05 AM
Yeah, I saw it too. Made them run in the beginning, and then good time for speeches. Nice to hear their reflections on the past and some things for the future.