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Re: The Golden Laws of JPH!P Fanfiction
« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2012, 12:31:20 PM »
I'd like to ask about, Story formats. Mostly fanfics are written in prose and paragraph formats. Shouldn't it be part of the rule that "Script Format" stories should not be allowed? Like for example, fanfiction.net does not allow these because they are not prose. I am only asking tho and maybe suggesting on the side /o/
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Re: The Golden Laws of JPH!P Fanfiction
« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2012, 06:48:28 PM »
^ Good question. Let me quote this over in the discussion thread so that I can get an input from the entire community.
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Re: The Golden Laws of JPH!P Fanfiction
« Reply #42 on: December 31, 2012, 08:38:27 PM »
I might just be being overly cautious, but is it OK to in the non-perv forum the implication that sex happened.. ie Takamina goes on a date with Acchan, and then the next scene wakes up to find they're in bed together with no clothes on, but not directly say so.

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Re: The Golden Laws of JPH!P Fanfiction
« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2013, 12:11:03 AM »
^ That's absolutely fine.
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Re: The Golden Laws of JPH!P Fanfiction
« Reply #44 on: January 02, 2013, 07:05:19 PM »
Hello, I'd like to ask something. I think there has to be revision on perv fic rule as I now keep seeing fanfics which is very uncomfortable to read. How about banning or limiting the usage of blatant words of the anatomy such as p***s and etc. I feel like watching porn...thankyou  :)
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Re: The Golden Laws of JPH!P Fanfiction
« Reply #45 on: January 02, 2013, 10:41:09 PM »
^ Are these blatant words describing underaged members? If so, please report those fics. (Via 'report to mod' link or PM).

Assuming they don't involve underaged members; I can't exactly tell someone how to write, but if such fics are that blatant, they must be posted in the perv thread.

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Re: The Golden Laws of JPH!P Fanfiction
« Reply #46 on: January 03, 2013, 05:01:17 AM »
I think what they meant is that, AKB is a girl-group, and the excess usage of "Penis" for a girl-group fanfic (when it's supposed to be Yuri) is quite unsettling?
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Re: The Golden Laws of JPH!P Fanfiction
« Reply #47 on: January 03, 2013, 05:55:27 AM »
Rather than just unsettling, I find the depiction of that to be really overly blatant and vulgar like I really am watching porn, and I'm not even doing it. And not just that, there's also something rather shameless and too disappointing about its depiction since I consider such a scene to be something sacred...even though its in the perv, I still think there should be moderation when it comes to how vulgar they are, whether it not be underage members.
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Re: The Golden Laws of JPH!P Fanfiction
« Reply #48 on: January 03, 2013, 11:19:04 AM »
I have lots of things to say but I don't want to until there is no need. Yet I have this idea. If our dear kids are allowed to go to perv section that means they are at least 18 oredi. That means they should expect and know what words are gonna be used there because it is PERV section. If you find it too hard on the eyes.... *facepalms*

Maybe we should label our stories in the perv section... Like..

(for kiddies)
(hard language)
(genderbender)
(etc)

That way kids who got access to the perv section will be happy as they won't have to read stories they dislike...


EDIT. I myself am not a huge fan of hard on the eyes words, but if I see them I don't read it. It's not like this forum is meant only for me. There are many people here who read and share stories. We can't possibly just make everyone's wishes come true. We just have to comply and try to make things okay for everyone But the thing about this forum which I liked a lot until these rules became too outrageous....it was that here I could write freely, here people were nice and friendly and here I could express myself as a writer and a person.
Sorry about using the word kids, but thats how I see you because all you do is complain about things. I thought this place was supposed to be a place where you enjoy writing and sharing it. Just go and check all the other perv sections. They ooze with perviness BECAUSE it is perv section so it's supposed to be like that. If you don't like it, don't go there and don't read it.


So anyway, I won't start my rambling as I don't see any point in doing that.

My suggestion: if it really bothers more than the usual three-four people, we can label the stories for them.
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Re: The Golden Laws of JPH!P Fanfiction
« Reply #49 on: January 03, 2013, 11:57:06 AM »
I think what they want is for writing to be more creative. They're just requesting something, I'm not even sure why you people take everything against you right away when they're just being suggestions and opinions, completely harmless and not in a way attacking you.

To me, writing is sacred and should be creative. Mature content stories are called smut, females like these better than pornography because they're not vulgar. If creativity is based on how vulgar you used a word, how free you were while writing it, then maybe there would be a bunch of books written that way, with warning labels on them WARNING VULGAR WORDS LIKE PENIS AND DICKS IN THESE BOOKS. BE WARY, DON'T LIKE IT DON'T BUY IT. And then the printed literature will now go to hell and we wasted trees -/shot

And then there's the reality that "Don't like it, Don't read it" turns away readers.
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Like I’m the most calm... Like, it must definitely be because, Like when we enter, I’ll be hurrying. But Because Junjun is older, I can calm down? I don’t really know, Like I just absolutely want her there beside me. Whenever we go abroad, if Junjun is absolutely not beside me, I absolutely won’t go. Something like that. -- Tanaka Reina about Junjun.

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Re: The Golden Laws of JPH!P Fanfiction
« Reply #50 on: January 03, 2013, 12:53:08 PM »
IMHO

that's harsh.. either of you. :3

well, actually, you can. :3
either you want to write a porn or a beautiful sex scene.
there's no rules about that. like every sex scene must be written beautifully or sacred. or no hardcore stuff in this forum, etc.

maybe how we react when we read a smut fic is different because we're different.. in gender. :3
maybe girls wants to read a romantic sex scene, and maybe they find it's disturbing to read something that's vulgar.
and the boys also wants to read something a little bit vulgar to jack-off or something. :3

well, both of you are right. You may write anything, as long as you didn't break those rules. :3
and maybe put a little bit consideration when writing and when react into it.

you can't forced your POV unto others.
but you always can to put yourself into someone else's shoes so you can be a little bit more considerate.

You're free as long as you don't harm other people's freedom.
so put some consideration before you react and before you write something, because the people who read the fanfics can be anyone, a 18 years old girls, or a 40 years old man. :3

as for me, i love a well written smut story, but i also like to read some hardcore stuff. :3
either it yuri or straight. :3

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Re: The Golden Laws of JPH!P Fanfiction
« Reply #51 on: January 03, 2013, 12:59:25 PM »
I don't know what part of only suggesting and not enforcing is hard to understand also, the truth is always harsh. the codes on your signature don't work
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Like I’m the most calm... Like, it must definitely be because, Like when we enter, I’ll be hurrying. But Because Junjun is older, I can calm down? I don’t really know, Like I just absolutely want her there beside me. Whenever we go abroad, if Junjun is absolutely not beside me, I absolutely won’t go. Something like that. -- Tanaka Reina about Junjun.

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Re: The Golden Laws of JPH!P Fanfiction
« Reply #52 on: January 03, 2013, 01:07:56 PM »
First and foremost, please forgive me if I sound rude, but I will use your words against you, if you take this offensive from me then please step aside as I don't want to fight and I have no intention of making this into a fight.

We just have to comply and try to make things okay for everyone

So you say you have to comply, is it not? Okay, you did comply with the rules in the fic, which is actually nice, and I actually applaud people who do comply, but when you say "try to make things okay for everyone"...are you sure that some tried to make things okay for everyone? The key point here is the "everyone" that you have pointed out because you actually have violated your own words because its not okay for everyone. And if you point out the "try" here, then I'll point out the amount of vulgar fics in the thread from the same authors who's updates never flattered to use those blatant words and never fails to appear in the fics. Everyone is always given the time to try but do you really place it into your hearts to actually do the words you said?

Sorry about using the word kids, but thats how I see you because all you do is complain about things. Just go and check all the other perv sections. They ooze with perviness BECAUSE it is perv section so it's supposed to be like that. If you don't like it, don't go there and don't read it.

We aren't complaining, you are misunderstanding our points, we were trying to point it out and suggest something, why do you deem it as a complain? It isn't a complain, its justifying our reason why, would you have liked it if we didn't try to explain what point and reason we are coming from and just plainly suggest "Ban/Limit the usage of blatant vulgar words"? If you see this as a complain, then how will we say our opinions when you see it as complains when its really not?

I feel like you are rejecting to listen to our side by saying that and that's not really polite. We aren't trying to make a fight here, we are just saying our opinions, does it really hurt that badly to say something inside your mind? Would you just rather we stay quiet and continue to feel uncomfortable?

And frankly, we are not talking about the other perv section, please do not use that as an excuse because what we are talking about is in the fanfiction thread, not from any other section because frankly, using all the perv sections, like example the images thread for a reason is really flawed.

Also...that reason, "don't go there and don't read it" doesn't really sit well because there are just somethings that cannot be ignored.

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Simply you limit yourself...

We aren't trying to limit smut anyhow, what we are trying to limit is the usage of vulgar words to describe the human anatomy, there are simply more than one way to describe those without having to be too shameless by using such words.

and maybe put a little bit consideration when writing and when react into it.

but you always can to put yourself into someone else's shoes so you can be a little bit more considerate.

so put some consideration before you react and before you write something, because the people who read the fanfics can be anyone, a 18 years old girls, or a 40 years old man. :3

That is actually what we are trying to point out here. A little consideration would be nice because not everyone who does read the fanfics are people who would also want something vulgar. Also, I think its obvious that not many who have access to the perv are 18+, I'm actually doubting that everyone is 18+ because its easy to request access in that thread.
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Re: The Golden Laws of JPH!P Fanfiction
« Reply #53 on: January 03, 2013, 01:23:42 PM »
I don't know what part of only suggesting and not enforcing is hard to understand also, the truth is always harsh. the codes on your signature don't work

oh thank you for reminding it. :3 already noticed that since.... i forgot. XD
to lazy to change it. :3

well, maybe how the other parties percieved it, different from how you percieved.
it's okay now since you already told that you only trying to suggest. :3
hope that the other parties can recieved the message well.
 
We aren't complaining, you are misunderstanding our points, we were trying to point it out and suggest something, why do you deem it as a complain?

I feel like you are rejecting to listen to our side by saying that and that's not really polite. We aren't trying to make a fight here, we are just saying our opinions, does it really hurt that badly to say something inside your mind? Would you just rather we stay quiet and continue to feel uncomfortable?

That is actually what we are trying to point out here. A little consideration would be nice because not everyone who does read the fanfics are people who would also want something vulgar. Also, I think its obvious that not many who have access to the perv are 18+, I'm actually doubting that everyone is 18+ because its easy to request access in that thread.

so, that's how we cleared this up. :3 This is only a suggestion. No hard feelings for both parties. :3

btw limiting or change the term of sexual reproductive organs i think is unavoidable in a smut..
but you can try to. :3 but if you didn't find any other way to change the term.. it's okay i think. :3 It's a smut.

and sorry, for butting in again. XD
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Re: The Golden Laws of JPH!P Fanfiction
« Reply #54 on: January 03, 2013, 01:58:00 PM »
^

so.. that's it. :3

end of the story.. :3

right now, we're only talking about smut fics and not about writing style, good or bad, prose or script, motivations, goals or anything.
so please don't stray away from it. :3

we only focused about (1)the suggestion how about we lighten the smut fics, and sakura-san's (2)suggestion how about we label or give some tags to our fic to anticipate the vulgar smut fic(?).



both of the opinions are right. :3 since it's only an opinion, not a fact or statement. :3

and for the fanfic's tags, it's up to the moderators. :3 whether they're going to use this suggestion or not. :3

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ow.. you delete your post. :3 well, it's okay, maybe you find you post a little bit harsh. :3
should try to keep your cool when you're discussing about something and don't stray away from the topic. :)
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Re: The Golden Laws of JPH!P Fanfiction
« Reply #55 on: January 03, 2013, 02:08:26 PM »
^ I moved it, as this is a place for laws not for discussions :P

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Re: The Golden Laws of JPH!P Fanfiction
« Reply #56 on: January 03, 2013, 02:09:44 PM »
^ urg....too long to read... *lazy mode* anyway..I will just wait for mod decide about that~ and also...miyu can write a comment for me after this or sakurachan~ nyahahah~~~  :on gay:

Can you please not reply when you have nothing sensible to say? Thank you.



btw limiting or change the term of sexual reproductive organs i think is unavoidable in a smut..
but you can try to. :3 but if you didn't find any other way to change the term.. it's okay i think. :3 It's a smut.


I have written more smut than my fingers can count, and not once have I said the words Penis, Vagina, and other words close to those. It's not 'unavoidable.' If you want something you can find ways to get it, if you're not lazy.


Labeling cannot fix everything.
I do not think Sakura's suggestion will work, but this is my PERSONAL PREFERENCE on this issue.

The main issue now is LAZINESS and the FAILURE TO COMPLY TO EVERYONE.
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Re: The Golden Laws of JPH!P Fanfiction
« Reply #57 on: January 03, 2013, 02:13:24 PM »
^ urg....too long to read... *lazy mode* anyway..I will just wait for mod decide about that~ and also...miyu can write a comment for me after this or sakurachan~ nyahahah~~~  :on gay:

Can you please not reply when you have nothing sensible to say? Thank you.



btw limiting or change the term of sexual reproductive organs i think is unavoidable in a smut..
but you can try to. :3 but if you didn't find any other way to change the term.. it's okay i think. :3 It's a smut.


I have written more smut than my fingers can count, and not once have I said the words Penis, Vagina, and other words close to those. It's not 'unavoidable.' If you want something you can find ways to get it, if you're not lazy.


Labeling cannot fix everything.
I do not think Sakura's suggestion will work, but this is my PERSONAL PREFERENCE on this issue.

The main issue now is LAZINESS and the FAILURE TO COMPLY TO EVERYONE.

I believe this place is for laws not for discussions, so can't we move the discussion/stating your opinions from only YOUR POV (forgetting ours) into the discussion thread?
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Re: The Golden Laws of JPH!P Fanfiction
« Reply #58 on: March 02, 2013, 08:43:34 AM »
New Golden Law added on March 02, 2013.

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Law #10 Only start a thread to post fanfic(s). Fanfic contests and threads like Seven Word Story are fine. However, threads asking for support for or feedback on fanfic ideas are not as they will become dead threads in time to come.
- Ask for feedback on fanfic ideas in The General AKB48 Fanfic Discussion Thread
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Rationale behind the introduction of Law #10:
This law is to prevent the AKB48 fanfic boards from getting cluttered with irrelevant threads. There are more suitable sections within the AKBar48 to post certain things. Please explore this wonderful community and who knows, you may make new friends outside of the Fanfic Forum! :jphip:

If you are a writer with an existing story thread, you may ask your readers for feedback on new fanfic ideas in your own thread. We are fine with this. Just don't start a thread or poll to merely gather feedback and support.

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Re: The Golden Laws of JPH!P Fanfiction
« Reply #59 on: April 11, 2013, 06:07:07 PM »
I have a question:
I was thinking of making a majisuka gakuen fic but I don't know if Swearing is allowed. is swearing allowed in a fic?

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