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Re: [01/23/13] Morning Musume 52nd single [Help me!!]
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2012, 09:47:51 AM »
The song is pretty catchy I really like it :) I really think that Morning Musume is heading in the right direction

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Re: [01/23/13] Morning Musume 52nd single [Help me!!]
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2012, 04:23:48 PM »
SAKURA FOR THE M F WIN.

Morning Musume., I believe you may actually have my attention again...

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Re: [01/23/13] Morning Musume 52nd single [Help me!!]
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2012, 08:56:36 PM »
is reina wearing a garter belt  :O

yup she usually seems to be the one in them for concerts, but fukuchans got one too!

i really like the dance too, my only negative is that the girls are so far away ^^; but im sure once we get the actual pv we'll get to see some more of the detailed moves in closer shots
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Re: [01/23/13] Morning Musume 52nd single [Help me!!]
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2012, 01:06:44 AM »
Just listened to this single. What.. is.. this.. magic?

It's just what I needed to reignite my interest.  :twothumbs
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Re: [01/23/13] Morning Musume 52nd single [Help me!!]
« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2012, 07:29:14 PM »
The dance is awesome, looks hard to do =]

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Re: [01/23/13] Morning Musume 52nd single [Help me!!]
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Re: [01/23/13] Morning Musume 52nd single [Help me!!]
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2012, 05:14:15 PM »
Keen eye (better than mine) by hancunningham: http://www.hello-online.org/index.php?/topic/23845-123-morning-musume-52nd-single-help-me/page__st__940#entry1609905

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Omg I watched the PV Preview multiple times and i found something cool at 1:23 when the camera zooms out and theres a lightning flash...


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Re: [01/23/13] Morning Musume 52nd single [Help me!!]
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2012, 09:40:38 PM »
Keen eye (better than mine) by hancunningham: http://www.hello-online.org/index.php?/topic/23845-123-morning-musume-52nd-single-help-me/page__st__940#entry1609905

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Omg I watched the PV Preview multiple times and i found something cool at 1:23 when the camera zooms out and theres a lightning flash...




I KNEW IT.
They're out to take over the world with mind manipulation  :shocked :panic:

I love this PV. The chorus part is made of awesome and the CG backgrounds are quite right. They should have done a better job with the lighting to make it more real, though.

Also, Sakura  :wub: BEST.ADDITION.EVER.  :wub: :wub: :wub:

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Re: [01/23/13] Morning Musume 52nd single [Help me!!]
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2012, 02:34:51 PM »
Gyaaaaahhh <3 Love the new Momusu so muuuuuch. Sakura is a great addition, my guess is that she will be the new voice of MM when Reina graduates. Love the dance, the outfits are a bit over the top but I like them anyway and none of the girls look stupid.

Iiih, so excited to see how this single will sell.
I haven't ordered my copy yet though.
The last year Tsunku really have produced great singles. Like he got new energy to really do his best or something. Once in a while he has been doing some really blah productions but not in 2012. Not for Momusu anyway. <3

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Re: [01/23/13] Morning Musume 52nd single [Help me!!]
« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2012, 05:11:48 AM »
Is it just me or do they always put Zukki in the most unflattering costumes? The designers are either trolling her or they just have no idea how to design something for someone with a larger figure than the rest of the girls. :(
But I'm gonna hop on the "re-sparked interest" bandwagon and say holy cow to this new single, they're finally getting me back on board for the new stuff!

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Re: [01/23/13] Morning Musume 52nd single [Help me!!]
« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2012, 06:28:43 AM »
Is it just me or do they always put Zukki in the most unflattering costumes? The designers are either trolling her or they just have no idea how to design something for someone with a larger figure than the rest of the girls. :(
They have no idea how to design something for a larger figure. See: shit that Makoto and Yossi used to wear during their larger periods, what Risako sometimes wears... It's like their idea of a dressing someone that isn't skinny is to HIDE IT WITH A PILE OF FABRIC... But that just makes it worse.. -_-
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Re: [01/23/13] Morning Musume 52nd single [Help me!!]
« Reply #32 on: January 01, 2013, 12:52:43 PM »
Hiiii guys I come bearing lyrics and a translation because I was bored

私をこのまま一人ぼっちにしておくわけ?
余りにも寂しい思いをさせ続けるのなら、
私はどこか遠くに
飛んでいってしまうよ?
ねえ、いいの?

助けてお願い これ以上私
我慢なんてできない
ずっと待つだけの ずっと待つだけの
マツコミジメックス

品川五反田
麻布に六本木
新宿新大久保
どこで遊んでんの?

心じゃいっつも叫んでいるのに
あいつの前では分かった振りしちゃう

夢見るだけじゃ簡単さ
全身で応えてよ
口約束もノーサンキュー
住みやすいとこにしてよ

キラキラしてる女の子
私は羽ばたくよ
グズグズしてる男の子
後悔しないでね
ピンチから  掴み取る
栄光

助けてお願い か弱い私は
涙も出そうにない
本音が言えない 本音が言えない
言えないチンゲール

大阪名古屋
札幌博多
広島仙台
日本にいるの?

優しくされたら涙が出そうよ
あいつの強気の根拠はどこにあるの

諦めちゃ 負けを認めちゃ
それだけはできないの
ひとりぼっちに飲みこまれない
ここが踏ん張りどころね

キラキラしてる女の子
私は羽ばたくよ
グズグズしてる男の子
後悔しないでね
アンチから
学びうる現実

「私をこのまま一人ぼっちにしておくわけ?」
「私は 遠くに 飛んでいってしまうよ」
「ねえ、いいの?」
キラキラしてる女の子
私は羽ばたくよ
グズグズしてる男の子
後悔しないでね
後悔しないでね
ピンチから
掴み取る
栄光

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Translation:

Are you planning to leave me alone like this?
If you're going to force loneliness onto me,
I might just fly far away from you.
Hey, is that ok?

I beg you to help me
Because I can no longer take any more of this
All I do is wait, waiting and waiting
Suffering for someone who will never come*

Gotanda in Shinagawa
Or Roppongi in Azabu
Maybe Shin-Okubo in Shinjuku
Where shall we go?

Even though I am always screaming deep inside my heart
I always ended up pretending to know everything in front of you

Just dreaming is easy
Answer with your whole self
No thank you to just verbal promises
Just let me live somewhere near you

Like a glittering girl
I'll spread my wings and go
All you wishywashy men
Don't you dare regret it
This glory that I plucked out of crisis

I beg you to help me
This weak me that has run out of tears
I can't speak my mind, the words won't come
Like a mute nightingale**

Osaka and Nagoya
Sapporo and Hakata
Hiroshima and Sendai
Are you even in Japan?

I will cry if you are too kind to me
Where does the source of your strength come from?

If I were to give up, it's as good as admitting defeat
That's the one thing I won't do
I won't be swallowed up by my loneliness
This will be where I make my stand

Like a glittering girl
I'll spread my wings and go
All you wishywashy men
Don't you dare regret it
This is the reality I learned from haters

"Are you planning to leave me alone like this?"
"I might just fly far away from you"
"Hey, are you alright with this?"

Like a glittering girl
I'll spread my wings and go
All you wishywashy men
Don't you dare regret it
Don't even regret it
This glory that I plucked out of crisis


*マツコミジメックス is an amalgamation of 「待つ子」 and「惨め」, which mean "someone who is waiting", and "suffering"
** This is actually a pun in the original Japanese. チンゲル doesn't actually mean anything, but tacked on to the 言えない...ないーチンゲル = nightingale. Tsunku you troll.

Fun fact: practically all the girls get their hometown named. Except Sakura. And I think...Kuduu? Unless they all count under the Greater Tokyo Area referenced in the first part, like for Fukuchan and Harunan. But who came from Osaka??? *confuzzlement* Tsunku?!

Lalala. Someone can sub it. :P

Edit: Further thoughts about the song. Hmm. MM seems to be going for the whole female empowerment theme recently. 123 and wktk have both all been about girls seizing control of their own lives. Girl power FTW? :lol:
« Last Edit: January 01, 2013, 10:11:57 PM by Estrea »

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Re: [01/23/13] Morning Musume 52nd single [Help me!!]
« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2013, 09:46:35 PM »
It may also be of note that 2ch thinks マツコミジメックス ("matsukomijimekkusu") may be a reference to マツコ・デラックス ("Matsuko Deluxe").
It brings up an interesting question though. If it isn't that, what's accounting for the "ックス"?

Perhaps this?
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くす / クス
onomatopoeia
  a little laugh

...but does that even make sense in context?


Also the "ienai-ghtingale" part has been jokingly interpreted as "言えないチン毛える". I'm not going to translate that. :smhid

Also, "アンチ" in this line:
アンチから
学びうる現実
is a term used on the net for haters/trolls.
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Re: [01/23/13] Morning Musume 52nd single [Help me!!]
« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2013, 10:10:53 PM »
Oh yeah I forgot that アンチ means haters. Oops. XD thanks! *edit*

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Re: [01/23/13] Morning Musume 52nd single [Help me!!]
« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2013, 10:24:51 PM »
** This is actually a pun in the original Japanese. チンゲル doesn't actually mean anything, but tacked on to the 言えない...ないーチンゲル = nightingale. Tsunku you troll.


Fun fact: practically all the girls get their hometown named. Except Sakura. And I think...Kuduu? Unless they all count under the Greater Tokyo Area referenced in the first part, like for Fukuchan and Harunan. But who came from Osaka??? *confuzzlement* Tsunku?!
Probably just naming all the major/main city areas of Japan.
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Re: [01/23/13] Morning Musume 52nd single [Help me!!]
« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2013, 01:41:46 PM »
モーニング娘。 『Help me!!』 TV Live—在线播放—优酷网,视频高清在线观看

TV Live of Help Me. Lol, Sakura obviously isn't singing live. Riho, I want to smack you. Don't sing from your throat, dummy.

Actually, all of them kind of fail at this. Reina did best (duh), but even she's a bit off-form...doesn't help that she isn't getting very good support from everyone else. Riho, I blame you. orz.

Still, they should improve with a bit of time....I am not very comforted by this.  :nervous

Edit: updated with a different link XD
« Last Edit: January 03, 2013, 05:13:56 AM by Estrea »

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Re: [01/23/13] Morning Musume 52nd single [Help me!!]
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Re: [01/23/13] Morning Musume 52nd single [Help me!!]
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Re: [01/23/13] Morning Musume 52nd single [Help me!!]
« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2013, 12:16:39 AM »

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