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Title: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: JFC on April 06, 2007, 10:41:13 PM
BANGKOK, April 4 — Thailand’s military-appointed government blocked access to YouTube and several other Internet sites on Wednesday in a crackdown on material that denigrates the country’s monarch. (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/05/business/worldbusiness/05tube.html?ei=5088&en=d4c3824714b7b322&ex=1333425600&adxnnl=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1175767766-kjIeV2CHVOm8ajBHB/T/VQ)

Sounds like a real bummer for Thai comp geeks.
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: meatwad202 on April 06, 2007, 11:01:12 PM
That would suck, but I'm sure the tech savvy Thai nerds will be able to get around the ban somehow.  Stick it to the MAN Thai citizens.
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: Asmodai on April 07, 2007, 01:11:42 AM
Seems a bit extreme. Censoring never really works out.
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: Ren on April 07, 2007, 04:48:05 AM
Oh noes, I hope my country won't do the same...
EDIT:
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Pornnapa Wongakanit contributed reporting.
Now I am really laughing :lol:.
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: Sancho on April 07, 2007, 05:38:14 AM
^ Same here. I feel sorry for some thai comp nerd but yeah, They can do something about it.
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: shadowstar on April 07, 2007, 05:38:33 AM
I agree, censoring sometimes just makes things worse.

And we all know the super tech-savvy dudes will find a way around this somehow  :P
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: La Daphne on April 07, 2007, 09:25:26 AM
Do they not know that forbidding people to do something is just going to want to make them do it more?

The Thai computer geeks will figure something out. they are, after all, computer geeks. THEY HAVE POWERS...oh, uh, I mean, they're smart, they'll be able to work around it.
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: ~Dan~ on April 07, 2007, 02:02:45 PM
I've had some youtube videos come up with a message saying something like "This video isn't licenced for viewing in your country." (I'm in the UK) and it won't let me watch them.  I just use keepvid.com and it let's me download them!
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: godome on April 07, 2007, 02:40:28 PM
I hope it will unblock in a few days

I want to watch Naruto !!
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: bokunosonzai on April 08, 2007, 06:05:02 AM
Censorship on the internet....BLASPHEMY!!! ;D
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: tempethegreat on April 08, 2007, 09:11:34 PM
i hope that my country not do that.......
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: nop on April 09, 2007, 02:01:03 AM
I am from Thailand. I can bypass and watch YouTube.  I support the censorship of webpage insulting monarchy, however.  YouTube and Google self-censorship for Communist China. Most Thai Citizen want to preserve Monarchy Institution.   IF Google is fair and don't self-censorship everywhere in the world, I will accept that. 
    There is censorship in China, Western Germany, so internet is not for free afterall.  If one shout Bomb in US, he probably will be in a lot of trouble and get deport from US. 
     I hope that Thai government learns to censorship individual page (about Monarchy insulting) in YouTube. I will be happy then.
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: daigong on April 09, 2007, 02:33:38 AM
I think Thai gov't was scared of THE EVIL SUPER VILLAIN!! PHEAR DIS CHANNEL!  >:D
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=mcbackpack
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: nop on April 09, 2007, 02:44:46 AM
Well, it is not about fear or not. 
   My opinion is that UK monarchy was overexposed. The result is a weaken institution. So we want to control access to Thai Monarchy.
   Since monarchy in Thailand has no direct power, in order for it to survive --  Constitution and Thai People must protect it.  Monarchy is very beneficial to Thailand, so Thai People help protect it at this history period.
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: yokoso on April 09, 2007, 04:23:41 PM
So.. they seriously 'banned' youtube because of ONE video?!  Isn't that just a little ridiculous?

Wouldn't it just have been easier to ban that one video?
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: chera on April 09, 2007, 05:01:45 PM
The saddest thing is that before this controversy, many of non-Thais didn't know anything about the Thai king or the Thai military government.

Their first exposure to both topics was the whole Youtube mess.  So now we see copycats uploading similar videos making fun of the king, for no other reason other than to spite the government censors.

The government has really shot itself in the foot - it wanted to protect the monarchy, but by associating the monarchy with its own incompetent policies, it's actually aroused anger against the monarchy.
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: doinkies on April 09, 2007, 07:16:10 PM
So.. they seriously 'banned' youtube because of ONE video?!  Isn't that just a little ridiculous?

Wouldn't it just have been easier to ban that one video?

Yeah, I understand that Thais respect their king a lot, but banning an entire site just because of one video is really going overboard IMHO...
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: tempethegreat on April 16, 2007, 05:41:07 PM
what the sad news.....
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: mckool on April 17, 2007, 03:43:57 AM
methinks those in 'need' of the old 'tube would eventually find a way...

one thing for certain, this would NOT stop the pants in thai-land to dropped!  so rest assure, daigong  ;D
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: freakz on April 19, 2007, 04:03:28 AM
hping that it won't do in my country  ;D
banned because i videos???? does anybody have that video or the link???
wanna watch it........ what kind of video is that???
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: nop on April 19, 2007, 03:03:39 PM
Google said that it will teach Thai government to block individual video and webpages.  It has been one week already and Google still do not give the needed technical know-how.
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: Daisuki Daiiyo on April 19, 2007, 05:11:47 PM
lol I don't know why people are so Anti-Youtube.

I mean hello, free PR. Especially if you make it into the top 20 most viewed.
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: ugdream on April 23, 2007, 03:49:27 AM
 I live in Thailand.
I don't understand what  Thai gonernment is trying to do.
They cencorship not only Youtube but also other internet sites..........
sucks..............
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: harlock on April 23, 2007, 04:06:58 AM
I am from Thailand. I can bypass and watch YouTube.  I support the censorship of webpage insulting monarchy, however.  YouTube and Google self-censorship for Communist China. Most Thai Citizen want to preserve Monarchy Institution.   IF Google is fair and don't self-censorship everywhere in the world, I will accept that. 
    There is censorship in China, Western Germany, so internet is not for free afterall.  If one shout Bomb in US, he probably will be in a lot of trouble and get deport from US. 
     I hope that Thai government learns to censorship individual page (about Monarchy insulting) in YouTube. I will be happy then.

No one will -ever- be deported from the US for saying something. Doesn't matter what is said. Oh and wtf, this sux for Thailand. I sometimes take for granted the liberties we have over here in America.
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: TydusArandor on April 23, 2007, 04:08:47 AM
I've found this site when I was wandering around, I think it's possible to access YouTube (and any other banned site?) from it: http://youtubeproxy.org/ (http://youtubeproxy.org/).

I don't think this is that bad compared to China banning YouTube and Wikipedia. It's for a similar reason too, if I remember correctly. Does anyone know if the ban in China has been lifted yet? I don't keep up with the news x_X. But anyways, banning one of the most viewed sites in the world just because of a video is pretty silly.
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: eynjel18 on April 23, 2007, 05:07:12 AM
They shouldn't block Youtube. They should just report the videos that they don't want to circulate on the web. But I guess once posted at Youtube, it could be converted easily and save on the hard drive.
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: nop on April 23, 2007, 05:13:29 AM
They shouldn't block Youtube. They should just report the videos that they don't want to circulate on the web. But I guess once posted at Youtube, it could be converted easily and save on the hard drive.

Government reported to YouTube to take this down. But YouTube refused to do so. So Government blocked whole YouTube. Just tit-for-tat. Insulting head of state is not offensive enough for YouTube.   Too bad - different culture, different priority.
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: ctz on April 24, 2007, 10:44:04 AM
Good example what happens when the old coots run the world.

I hope Thailand gets it democracy back soon so they can vote these guys off.
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: tamatron on April 24, 2007, 11:37:25 AM
lol. Like other govt would do it differently. Taksin would prolly say "youtube is not my father!"

I don't think this is that bad compared to China banning YouTube and Wikipedia. It's for a similar reason too, if I remember correctly.
From waht I heard, youtube has given in to China and went with their rules. So they've lost some points in that in some people's eyes. And maybe they're trying to gain it back using this case.
What's so hard about deleting 1 clip? Not like they never deleting anything before. They've been deleting clips left and right and even accounts. At first there was just one clip that the govt reported to youtube. They refused to take it down. After that, more clips start to appear. So banning the whole site may be the best solution.
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: freakz on April 24, 2007, 02:00:09 PM
exactly, what thai's govern thinking about banning youtube???
this is just free video streaming and i've got many anime from that....
lucky me i'm not in thailand  ;D ;D
really...really sucks XDXD
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: mikey009 on April 26, 2007, 07:19:40 PM
way too extreme to ban youtube over a video of some1 spray painting over their kings picture
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: ctz on April 27, 2007, 02:27:00 PM
lol. Like other govt would do it differently. Taksin would prolly say "youtube is not my father!"
From waht I heard, youtube has given in to China and went with their rules. So they've lost some points in that in some people's eyes. And maybe they're trying to gain it back using this case.
What's so hard about deleting 1 clip? Not like they never deleting anything before. They've been deleting clips left and right and even accounts. At first there was just one clip that the govt reported to youtube. They refused to take it down. After that, more clips start to appear. So banning the whole site may be the best solution.

They aren't getting enough Thai money. That's why deleting one clip is s too difficult. I don't like giving in to China either... But I hope they someday realize that banning Internet sites doesn't really solve anything.
Title: Re: Thailand Bans YouTube
Post by: kwanleekwan on April 28, 2007, 03:02:01 AM
Luckily, I am not in Thai.