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General => Entertainment => Music => Topic started by: kingthaking81 on May 14, 2008, 12:41:06 AM
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www.eurovision.tv
awight, this years participants are interesting as well as the songs. off course there are some really plain and weird compositions and the english lyrics for some songs isnt really working as well (cheesiness). anyway, a wide variations of styles to choose from.
so who are your (coming) favorites?
i'm already rooting for
Andorra- your typical easy listening dance number , but very catchy and a hot chick singing the song
Danmark - great voice and his looks will also aid him reaching the finals I think
Georgia - easy to sing about peace, but this one has a really nice sound to it
Greece- not really my cup of tea, but at least it has a cool beat
Hungary - sucker for dramatic ballads , instant fave
Israel - just wow, cant imagine that dana international wrote this song
Moldova - the underdog IMO, i really hope they get some recognition
ROmania - nicely sung and melodic duet
Switzerland - nice build up and reminds me bit of eros ramazotti songs
my choices are based on impressions of first time listenings
and apparantely i like more songs than expected...
as for my country's song(netherlands), a bit better than last years, but a lot of fierce competition
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Just prepare for Ireland's entry. A dance number called 'Irelande Douze Point' all sung by a puppet of a turkey named Dustin, a popular TV personality in Ireland. Top it all off with some crappy backing vocals and dancers and you've got a clear piss-take.
Which is really what all of us here in the UK view the contest as anyway.
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What do you think about this?
http://www.eurovision.tv/event/artistdetail?song=23994&event=1469
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^ Oh really? lol shame. Loved Dustin as a kid. Dustin, Socky, Ray Darcy, happy days.... Would be funny just to see the reactions of other people. I thought Ireland was one of the countries funding the contest so do they not gain automatic placement? I don't know the details.
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Perrea perrea :cow:
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/me is bitter
my favorite artist didn't even make it into the final (Swedish one :P).
And I don't really like the whole show anymore, so I'm not interested
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I hope it's going to be fair show and even though I don't have a favorite I hope someone good wins XD
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For the last few years I've managed to not hear the UK entry until the contest itself, which is probably for the best as our entry is usually a heap of crap.
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^ It's the bin man from X Factor or whatever a few years ago. Sorry to spoil the surprise.
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It hasn't spoiled the surprise, I never watch X factor so I haven't a clue who you're talking about. :lol:
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lmao Ireland didn't get through the semi's. :lol: Only saw a part of it, but it was awful.
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ah well, the netherlands didnt reach the finals. next year better :roll:
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Nederland had Behave moeten sturen ipv Treble vorig jaar.. dan hadden we serieus nog eens een kans gemaakt :P
My favorites this year include Finland, Azarbaijan and Bosnia & Herzegovina.
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I'm so confused about them doing semis and such, i don't see how it makes it fairer.
Anyway will probably watch tonight, hoping for some good eurobeat xDxD
oh yh England entry is boring as anything. England really doesn't seem to get how the songs for the eurovision work >_<
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Bosnia ftw, now THAT is what Eurovision and music in general is all about!
Other faves include Turkey, Albania and Azerbaijan for me; shame San Marino didn't get through they weren't half bad either.
I've got the Eurovision album downloaded and been hammering some of the tunes already! I can't remember the last time I was actually looking forward to this...
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Bosnia has the best song this year, so I'm cheering for them!
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I forgot to watch the second semi... but I really liked Georgia's song.
The first semi included a lot of crap. Like Poland's entry.. wtf was that? o_O
Anyway. I'm glad Sweden made it. I think that is a good song... maybe just because they are playing 10 times a day on the radio. =D
If England didn't have a sure spot each year they might send better song's what they use to send is plain... BAD.
Same with Germany, those people has a wierd sense of humor. I think my grandma is a bit funny, but her relatives from germany has that wierd sense of humor. Like men in ugly mustasches and a wierd shirt. =D
Anyway, I can rant forever about this... I look forward to the finals this evening. I'm gonna make a lot of candy and laugh alot at the costumes =D
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ugh not liking the winning song (=russia) at all. that iceskating dude was so out of place. and the singing is so not natural.
greece or armenia were much better IMo. although my vote went to norway~
poor Uk and germany ending last again. France and Spain were at least a bit fun to watch/listen.
Maybe all the western countries should follow their footsteps/
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Can anyone hook me up with Israel's song?? LOL I just thought the way he sang was really beautiful. I gotta have it ^_^
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i am so painfully happy greece didnt win D:
her song was so tacky and cheesy (maybe even moreso than russia)
i was so happy when they got the unbeatable score :D
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Spain was the best imo. Followed by Bosnia & Herzegovina and Albania.
Since when is Russia in Europe anyway :P
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Well, since a fourth of Russia are in Europe it would be weird if only that part was welcome in the Eurovision.
I'm more confused with Israel and Armenia being a part of Europe.. o_O
But wiki tells me that they are historically and culturally part of Europe. So, i'm not arguing.
I'm not really happy with the outcoming yesterday. =/
There were better songs than the winner. but.. the european people has said theirs. ^^
Was it only me that thought the swedish vote-deliverer was really funny? =D
The Moldovan one said a great deal of things but in so bad english that I almost didn't cath a word he said.
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haha I saw the Swedish announcer yesterday. That guy was completely stoned. 'IIiiiiceeeelllaaannddd' :lol:
So UK came last? Is it any surprise nowadays? It was a pretty crap song anyways. As usual though there's uproar from the UK about the whole thing. People say it's because of the invasion of Iraq but really, we just send in rubbish songs each year :lol: Best thing to do is for the BBC to stop wasting license fee payers money in funding this competition and withdraw. Nobody can possibly take it seriously anymore and expect us to win can they?
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Well, since a fourth of Russia are in Europe it would be weird if only that part was welcome in the Eurovision.
I'm more confused with Israel and Armenia being a part of Europe.. o_O
But wiki tells me that they are historically and culturally part of Europe. So, i'm not arguing.
All the countries that are members of EBU(European Broadcasting Union?) can participate so it's not really about geography, culture or history. Eventhough countries on the same continent of course have some common history and culture. Technically all the North-African counties could participate, if they liked to.
So UK came last? Is it any surprise nowadays? It was a pretty crap song anyways. As usual though there's uproar from the UK about the whole thing. People say it's because of the invasion of Iraq but really, we just send in rubbish songs each year Best thing to do is for the BBC to stop wasting license fee payers money in funding this competition and withdraw. Nobody can possibly take it seriously anymore and expect us to win can they?
The UK's song surely was crap last year, but this year they had a lot better song. I just think UK and other Big Four -countries are not really gainin anything for getting straight to the final, without participating in semifinals. All the others already have their fanbase when the Big Four have to start from zero in the finals.
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Nobody can possibly take it seriously anymore and expect us to win can they?
I couldn't agree less. The fact that the UK doesn't take it seriously is the main factor in why we've done so badly in recent years. People may worship the ground Terry Wogan walks on but personally I think it's his fault this sort of thing has happened. His sarcastic comments may have been funny for a couple of years but they've gotten old now and it's thankls to his comments that the United Kingdom doesn't take it seriously anymore. Pretty much every other nation considers it an honour and those representing them equally so, the sooner we get out of out own arses the better.
Of course it helps if the songs any good which I personally don't think it was but that is just down to preference I guess, that's our own fault for picking something that obviously not many people liked.
And yes, political voting affects the UK in an adverse way as the only real "allies" we ever had since televoting was put into place are Ireland and Malta. Russia really were destined to win from the start considering who else was taking part and I guess I was a bit of an idiot for not seeing that myself. Though that was by a long long way my most hated song of the competition so maybe that's why I just tried to stay as far away from it as possible.
I hate saying that it is simply down to politics when talking about this, so I won't; I'll say it's mainly down to politics why Russia did so well and the UK did so badly. Personally I couldn't give a crap about where in the world or what language the winning entry is from as long as I like the song.
I porobably shouldn't be as annoyed as I am about this as it happens every year anyway but this was the first time in years I'd actually been looking forward to it and even took the time to check up on entries before hand only for it to end as it always has done.
Bah.
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I think if Finland has a chance of winning, like we won a couple of years ago, any country does! We usually only get pity points from Sweden and Estonia, but then one year suddenly points after points after points. It just takes the right song at the right time, maybe a bit of a risk. Maybe Lordi wouldn't have won if they had participated this year instead of 2 years earlier.
Politics definitely play a role in the voting, but if there was a really catchy & great song with a really great performance, it would have a chance.
With that being said, I hate that Finns now seem to think every year that we have a chance of winning. :lol: It's the same as with ice hockey: we win once and since then start to think we have a chance every year. For the record the last time we won gold on ice hockey was in 1995. We could go on the next 50 years in Eurovision thinking we might win, but not even make it to top 5. :lol:
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Björn Gustavsson :heart: Sorry~ He was the swedish announcer and he always is like that, stoned I mean, or to much glögg~(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gl%C3%B6gg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gl%C3%B6gg)) XD*on topic*
I liked the russian song, but not the guy singing it~ Don't ask me why, I just can't stand his voice O_O I didn't think they're were any good songs this year, okey I really liked Serbias song, but not any of the others, For some reason I'm happy it didn't went well for Sweden, I just don't like the one singing~
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Nobody can possibly take it seriously anymore and expect us to win can they?
I couldn't agree less. The fact that the UK doesn't take it seriously is the main factor in why we've done so badly in recent years. People may worship the ground Terry Wogan walks on but personally I think it's his fault this sort of thing has happened. His sarcastic comments may have been funny for a couple of years but they've gotten old now and it's thankls to his comments that the United Kingdom doesn't take it seriously anymore. Pretty much every other nation considers it an honour and those representing them equally so, the sooner we get out of out own arses the better.
Of course it helps if the songs any good which I personally don't think it was but that is just down to preference I guess, that's our own fault for picking something that obviously not many people liked.
And yes, political voting affects the UK in an adverse way as the only real "allies" we ever had since televoting was put into place are Ireland and Malta. Russia really were destined to win from the start considering who else was taking part and I guess I was a bit of an idiot for not seeing that myself. Though that was by a long long way my most hated song of the competition so maybe that's why I just tried to stay as far away from it as possible.
I hate saying that it is simply down to politics when talking about this, so I won't; I'll say it's mainly down to politics why Russia did so well and the UK did so badly. Personally I couldn't give a crap about where in the world or what language the winning entry is from as long as I like the song.
I porobably shouldn't be as annoyed as I am about this as it happens every year anyway but this was the first time in years I'd actually been looking forward to it and even took the time to check up on entries before hand only for it to end as it always has done.
Bah.
All valid points you raise there. It seems definately apparent that any country not taking it seriously or sending in a comedy song (e.g. Ireland) is going to get shafted in votes on the night by the ones taking it more seriously. All I'm saying is, a majority saw Eurovision as a farce even before this supposed Eastern European bloc political voting became more noted and maybe Wogan has played some part in that. But why is there a national uproar over it every year? Yes there's the same cases of political voting as there always has been (Andorra gives 12 to Spain, Norway 12 to Denmark etc) but surely the only way you'll be taken seriously and gain a little bit of respect back is by sending in proper artists, not an X-Factor reject. As I understand, the Russian singer already had several number ones before entering the contest. And the UK's not in dire shape in terms of pop music, let's be honest. Leona Lewis is the first one that springs to mind and who I could see doing well. Now if her entry only got 10 points on the night, then I would indeed cry foul over some kind of political shenanigans. But would you even see her entering? No chance, it's for the lesser, unheard artists it would seem and that's probably why they fail each year. Get a proper artist, a decent song, some hype surrounding it and then see what happens. I would be genuinely surprised if it produced the same kind of results.
I've always thought the UK shouldn't send in a pop act for once and send in a rock one. Think about it, Finland already plays to it's strengths by sending in a metal band, with metal surely as it's most popular music export, and what genre of music in the UK has produced the most iconic artists/bands? Rock music of course. The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, the list goes on. May as well, it surely can't do much worse than any other act and it would be good to see a change. Though it will never happen if it depends on the public vote each year.
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Nobody can possibly take it seriously anymore and expect us to win can they?
I couldn't agree less. The fact that the UK doesn't take it seriously is the main factor in why we've done so badly in recent years. People may worship the ground Terry Wogan walks on but personally I think it's his fault this sort of thing has happened. His sarcastic comments may have been funny for a couple of years but they've gotten old now and it's thankls to his comments that the United Kingdom doesn't take it seriously anymore. Pretty much every other nation considers it an honour and those representing them equally so, the sooner we get out of out own arses the better.
Of course it helps if the songs any good which I personally don't think it was but that is just down to preference I guess, that's our own fault for picking something that obviously not many people liked.
And yes, political voting affects the UK in an adverse way as the only real "allies" we ever had since televoting was put into place are Ireland and Malta. Russia really were destined to win from the start considering who else was taking part and I guess I was a bit of an idiot for not seeing that myself. Though that was by a long long way my most hated song of the competition so maybe that's why I just tried to stay as far away from it as possible.
I hate saying that it is simply down to politics when talking about this, so I won't; I'll say it's mainly down to politics why Russia did so well and the UK did so badly. Personally I couldn't give a crap about where in the world or what language the winning entry is from as long as I like the song.
I porobably shouldn't be as annoyed as I am about this as it happens every year anyway but this was the first time in years I'd actually been looking forward to it and even took the time to check up on entries before hand only for it to end as it always has done.
Bah.
All valid points you raise there. It seems definately apparent that any country not taking it seriously or sending in a comedy song (e.g. Ireland) is going to get shafted in votes on the night by the ones taking it more seriously. All I'm saying is, a majority saw Eurovision as a farce even before this supposed Eastern European bloc political voting became more noted and maybe Wogan has played some part in that. But why is there a national uproar over it every year? Yes there's the same cases of political voting as there always has been (Andorra gives 12 to Spain, Norway 12 to Denmark etc) but surely the only way you'll be taken seriously and gain a little bit of respect back is by sending in proper artists, not an X-Factor reject. As I understand, the Russian singer already had several number ones before entering the contest. And the UK's not in dire shape in terms of pop music, let's be honest. Leona Lewis is the first one that springs to mind and who I could see doing well. Now if her entry only got 10 points on the night, then I would indeed cry foul over some kind of political shenanigans. But would you even see her entering? No chance, it's for the lesser, unheard artists it would seem and that's probably why they fail each year. Get a proper artist, a decent song, some hype surrounding it and then see what happens. I would be genuinely surprised if it produced the same kind of results.
I've always thought the UK shouldn't send in a pop act for once and send in a rock one. Think about it, Finland already plays to it's strengths by sending in a metal band, with metal surely as it's most popular music export, and what genre of music in the UK has produced the most iconic artists/bands? Rock music of course. The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, the list goes on. May as well, it surely can't do much worse than any other act and it would be good to see a change. Though it will never happen if it depends on the public vote each year.
I'm very much with the thought we (the UK) should start sending in proper acts. And I never really thought of us sending in a rock band before, always considered pop artists. If next year is just shit again on the Making Your Mind Up programme, we need to start screaming at the BBC.
Though the BBC will keep funding it, because they put in less to fund the entire contest than they do for one episode of Dr Who (and Dr Who is a steaming turd on the face of television IMO) AND they get a whole night of entertainment AND high viewing figures for it.
I've always loved the contest and enjoyed the whole pop, camp thing that they have going for it WHEN it's not a song designed to win over a gay audience (ie: Iceland's entry this year).
Also, I think the last time we put in a decent act/song was 6 years ago, with Jessica Garlick. We came joint 3rd - not a bad result at all.