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The AKBar48 => AKB48 News & Releases => Topic started by: Jul3 on January 31, 2013, 10:54:03 AM
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Due to her recent scandal published by Shunkan Bunshun about her having a relationship with Shirahama Alan of Generations from EXILE (http://forum.jphip.com/index.php?topic=20753.msg1148387#msg1148387 (http://forum.jphip.com/index.php?topic=20753.msg1148387#msg1148387)), Miichan has been demoted to a KKS and also appears on the official AKB youtube channel with a shaved head :panic:
AKB48 峯岸みなみからのメッセージ / AKB48[公式] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlzrIgacADU#ws)
http://ameblo.jp/akihabara48/entry-11460663404.html (http://ameblo.jp/akihabara48/entry-11460663404.html)
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Why are you shaving your own hair!? :tantrum:
She is not my favorite but I really respect her...
And I feel so sorry for her... shaving her hair like this... :fainted:
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Bilingual48 http://twitter.com/Bilingual48 (http://twitter.com/Bilingual48) has translated the video:
In the Shukan Bunshun released today, there is an article about me. It has brought a lot of inconvenience and trouble to members, fans and staff. As a 1st generation member I really should have been a better role model for younger members but what I did was very inconsiderate. I could not think of anything to do that would rectify the situation, so I shaved my head without consulting with members or my agent. I do not expect to be forgiven. My only thought was that I do not want to leave. I can't imagine what it would be like without members and fans that have supported us for so long. This was all my fault and I am truly sorry. Now I will leave the rest to Akimoto sensei and others to decide. Thank you.
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lol damn.
In some ways, it's similar to what Sayaka Akimoto did: resign from being a captain because you hurt the image of the group (even though nothing happened). Miichan loves the group, she wants to stay a member and drops a rank.
However, this is quite extreme. In some ways, isn't she confessing to be guilty by taking measures into her own hands (i.e. cutting her hair without consulting anyone)? This could have just blown over like the Kana thing, yet she chose this route just to ensure she wouldn't get graduated.
Either way, that video was pretty painful to watch. I don't wish things like this on any of them.
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she really shaved her head :angry: :panic: :shocked :thumbdown: :smhid :banghead: :( :cry: :cry:
Miichan!! I love you why?! why?! :cry: :cry: :banghead:
I will always support you Miichan!! :heart: :heart:
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I can't... This... My heart... :ptam-hbk: :on blackhole:
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I WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT YOU
I DONT CARE ABOUT THE SCANDAL THING IF ITS TRUE OR NOT..
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"Miichan is important like family, I support her no matter what."
-Maeda Atsuko
Acchan supports Miichan no matter what!!
Source: Twitter
https://twitter.com/Atsuko_100/status/296957897953394688
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lucky girl 2012 got her hair burned..
Lucky girl 2013 got her hair shaved?!
Miichan, i will always love u no matter what.
Things happen, we can't do anything than to support her! :D
I know this is hard and i was sad too when i read this..
Maybe there is something else waiting for her in the future.(good things of course).
Everyone will have their bad days, it just we don't know when it will come to us.
She already regret for what she did. THE PAST IS THE PAST.
BE POSITIVE!! KEEP SUPPORTING MIICHAN! :)
(sorry... )
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Though I am not a fan of her, I still feel sorry for her. Some may says that that's the price of being an idol, you dun get your freedom for even your private life and your actions are answerable to the public . But I guess by seeing her getting punished won't make a sensible fan or even a bystander any happier. That's not the correct way to appease the fans. I believe many of us would rather see them truly happy in their own private life and have the freedom to do what they yearn for. Sigh.
can't bear to watch that sad video...hang on, miichan!
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What are they, Yakuza?
I can see them cutting off their pinkies in 1-2 years in the future.
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IMO,it's too dreadful for me to watch.Why the hair?The haircut reminds me of the movie About Lily Chou-chou where the young Ayumi Ito cuts her hair in the end to avoid bullying in school.I'm in awful shock right now.Two days away from my computer and the World Wide Web.It felt like ages,man in cyberspace,i mean. :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Tomochin just tweeted this:
(http://picroda.jphip.com/akb48/jphip153363.jpg)
http://twitter.com/tomo_coco73/status/297007607976169472/photo/1 (http://twitter.com/tomo_coco73/status/297007607976169472/photo/1)
1st generation :heart:
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It could have been worst.... but I think in a way it a severe warning to not do it again and now she can move forward to improve
^ the picture is a good reminder that she'll pull through
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She looks cute. I'm sure she'll rock the shaved look.
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This whole thing is awful but the support she's getting from other members cheers me up slightly. I hate the management people.
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Good job Miichan :nervous
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First time I saw that article, I thought it'll be forgotten in a few days. :lol: Never thought it would become like this.
I admire her boldness in this. Feels so responsible as a senior member that when she fails at it, went so far as to shaving her head.
Stay strong, lady! Fellow members and fans are supporting you!
I guess we will see a record set at the 5th General Election, which is her being the highest-ranked Kenkyuusei (if until that event, she's still a Kenkyuusei). :lol:
[img]http://picroda.jphip.com/akb48/jphip153363.jpg[img]
A visit by a legend. :heart:
Too bad Kojiharu isn't in the pic.
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All I can say is WTF?
Miichan knows how to get a reaction, that's for sure. There have been some interesting reactions to scandals but going GI Jane is definitely a new one. :lol: I feel bad that yet another awesome girl has fallen victim to this retarded idol rule, but it is a part of the industry regardless of how any one person may feel about it. Sucks, imo.
I dunno what they're going to do about the hair, but this could otherwise work to Minegishi's favor. She could easily become AKB's kenkyuusei goddess and create a whole new dynamic for fans to latch onto, similar to what Sasshi has done with her HKT move. :thumbup
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Dear Miichan,
This might sound cheezy but I just wanted to tell you I have embraced many wonderful memories since I have found AKB48, but one of my memories that I admired most was watching you smile from afar and supporting you as a fan. Sometimes when I’m down, I don’t know if trying my best is worth it, but then I see you trying your hardest, facing your fears, watching you laugh with the rest of the AKB members and then I know it is. I admire how you overcome your challenges, how you create new moments in your life, that’s why I won’t tell you to try your best because you already are. Nobody’s perfect, but you don’t have to say your sorry, we won’t forgive you because there’s nothing to forgive, everybody makes mistakes. In your video when you said you were inconsiderate, selfish, a bad role model, you are none of those. Frankly you’re the opposite, you kind, gentle and only selfish when you want a hug from the members and kiss them. We are grateful for you sharing your thoughts, We also do not want you to leave!! And we cannot imagine AKB without you, our Miichan, all we can do as fans is to support you with whatever you make, and to me you’re still one of my oshimen. I’m sure everyone feels the same.
Love and supported from all your fans. :heart: :yep:
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I felt bad for Mii-chan. I love her determination, keep fighting. I'm glad she has her older sisters Taka, Tomo, Atsuko, Mariko to cheer her up and be there for her. She will definitely rise soon enough and be promoted. Ganbare Mii-chan!!! I support you all the way :twothumbs
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I feel bad for the Miichan oshi's - it if were my oshimen, I'd be far more distraught over this loss of hair rather than the boyfriend thing or the demotion to KKS.
I hope she stays strong and glad that her fellow members are supporting her :)
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Chock :mon freeze: what happen with her hair I'm so sad :mon whine:
It's a hard punishment :mon cry:
stay strong Miichan :mon yeah:
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Takamina's latest blog entry is short and sweet:
2013-01-31 22:43:42
Do your best Miichan.
You’re a precious friend of mine
You’re a precious member of my family
Translated by nicky/kanki: http://blog48.livejournal.com/3639897.html (http://blog48.livejournal.com/3639897.html) / http://imnikky.tumblr.com/post/41967980740/takahashi-minami-2013-01-31 (http://imnikky.tumblr.com/post/41967980740/takahashi-minami-2013-01-31)
And Tomo's too:
Original Entry
2013-01-31 23:27:44
No matter what happens, you’ll always be one of my best friends
I love you Miichan.
Tomo.
http://imnikky.tumblr.com/post/41966583361/itano-tomomi-miichan (http://imnikky.tumblr.com/post/41966583361/itano-tomomi-miichan)
EDIT:
Shirahama Alan’s agency releases statement regarding Shukan Bunshun’s report
On January 31, LDH the agency for GENERATIONS from EXILE TRIBE’s Shirahama Alan, released a short statement regarding Shukan Bunshun’s report about his relationship with AKB48’s Minegishi Minami.
According to their comment, “We leave his private life up to him. He told us that they were nothing more than just good friends.”
Shunkan Bunshun reported that Minegishi spent the night at Shirahama’s place, on the latest issue published on the 31st. It caused Minegishi’s demotion to Kenkyuusei, and she also posted an apology video on AKB48’s official YouTube channel with a shaved head.
http://www.tokyohive.com/2013/01/shirahama-alans-agency-releases-statement-regarding-shukan-bunshuns-report/ (http://www.tokyohive.com/2013/01/shirahama-alans-agency-releases-statement-regarding-shukan-bunshuns-report/)
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^ Classic statement from the other party's agency
anyways its great to see them support her and you can only hope that it gets much better from here :3
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At first I was shocked to know that Miichan shaved her hair. It was long and very cute, and I can imagine how it is important for a girl.
But when I saw that picture with Miichan smiling with another 1st gen members, I can feel nothing but respect. Maybe she shaved her hair to show her regret with this incident, who knows?
And her wotas certainly will show their respect and love with some extreme attitude, like hers :)
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This was so "whuh?" I thought it may have been some early JPHiP joke, but seeing is believing. Stupid mistake for a veteran of the idol industry, but I definitely respect her. Getting the demotion is one thing, but her shaving her hair is definitely an outward symbol of her "self-punishment" (since the idol industry is at it's core image based.) I support her.
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ナイナイ岡村隆史 AKB48峯岸みなみ丸刈りでお泊り騒動謝罪について語る1/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EkCUe1CzE4#)
Comedian duo Ninety-Nine talked about it at the beginning of their radio show today
http://pastebin.com/XCiDPewQ (http://pastebin.com/XCiDPewQ)
Here's a quick summary of what was being talked about
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^This. :lol:
- there's probably members thinking "wtf you doing? don't go bald! wtf are we supposed to do now?"
Well, don't get caught or you'll get your head shaved while you're sleeping. :oops:
After going through the shaved head mii-chan shock, being angry at the article, reflect that she was one of the earliest members I liked in the group, and being lucky enough to actually shake her hand twice. I think I'm calm enough to reply.
Miichan has done a lot for the group, I think a lot of fans support her for this. And leaving would've been a total loss for AKB. I'm glad how it has turned out.
I'm just sad that this happened just when no3b got a new single out after a year of waiting. And fans recently getting unnecessarily worried from constant news like this.
But turning KKS is no problem at all, I'm sure Miichan will bounce back. :)
Totally off topic: Remember AKBINGO! said she was the luckiest girl this year. Maybe its a really weird start for a Miichan push. :nervous
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Togasaki posts about this on his google+ https://plus.google.com/116244092830131285439/posts/FnyCV5JQ5CV
Tomonobu Togasaki (English page)8:39 AM - Public
We have received many opinions and questions from the fans regarding the video of Minegishi's apology. I would like to add further explanations since the management hasn't fully expressed their explanation to your questions.
□ Why did you have to stream a video like this?
When we were in a hurry preparing for the streaming and we have received a report that Minegishi really wants to apologize personally with her hair shaved. We felt how strong her will and feeling towards AKB48 was, so we decided to stream the video as we planned.
□ Was it necessary to shave her hair?
It wouldn't be necessary even if you ask if it was necessary or not. It was just that Minegishi really wanted to convey how strong her feeling was.
□ Did anybody stop her from shaving her hair?
I heard that when she came out from the make up room, she had already shaved her hair. It seems that the staff beside her did stop her. However, I heard that she said that people might think of her as a fool, but she really wanted to put her reflection into action, so she cut her bangs using scissors without losing control over herself.
□ Isn't it unfair that the punishment for each of the members who had scandals were different?
It would be better if we can establish the same rule. However, we are experiencing a dilemma because it is difficult to conceive a common rule since each member is under a different situation.
For example, a member had been warned many times, but did not listen to anyone and created a scandal.
There was also a member who wanted to pursue her dreams and was about to plan on graduating when a scandal about her was exposed.
There was also a member whose past was discovered.
There was also a member whose scandal was not exposed, but still had a huge rule violation.
Please do understand that we have to make decisions with consideration to many circumstances.
□ There was a photo of Minegishi, which has been uploaded on the internet, where she looked like she was having fun with the first generation members. Did she really reflect on her actions?
Before the rehearsals of the theater performance of Team B, I saw Minegishi who came to apologize with an exhausted expression on her face, so I can say that she has reflected on her actions. At the same time, it seemed like she was trying her best not to make people around her feel worried. I think that is the reason why the members of the same generation as her were encouraging Minegishi who was feeling depressed.
We, the managing team, would like to support the members who are trying their best to pursue their dreams by having continuous discussion with them.
Tomonobu Togasaki
AKB Group Theater General Manager
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So, the whole Miichan shaving head incident/video has gotten around since last night and now non-AKB/idol ppl are believing management forced her to shave her head then make the video and campaigning to flag the video on youtube, it's just a mess right now.
All I know is that this pretty much says it for me. http://pup.tumblr.com/post/42012951694/maketakunai-pup-shes-a-member-of-akb48-who (http://pup.tumblr.com/post/42012951694/maketakunai-pup-shes-a-member-of-akb48-who)
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EDIT: also Hirari's G+ post http://girls48.tumblr.com/post/41986336987/hirata-rinas-g-translation-regarding-minegishi (http://girls48.tumblr.com/post/41986336987/hirata-rinas-g-translation-regarding-minegishi)
Cultural Competence
I don't know how many people actually read my blog, but if you happen to be one of them, please share / retweet this.
I heard about all these posts on tumblr, through my twitter timeline, and the "extended discussions" these posts have generated. These discussions apparently range from whether Minegishi's head was shaved by herself or by management, to feminist movements and gender equality in Japan.
One user in particular called for youtube users to report Minegishi's apology video as abusive and hopes youtube will take it down eventually.
I haven't read any of these posts myself - this is exactly the kind of inane discussion I avoid when it comes to this fandom (or any topic that requires in-depth knowledge across multiple disciplines, really). But from my feeds, it feels like this is really getting out of hand, and the information that's being passed around is not entirely correct.
Here are the facts that have been clarified either by management or by Minegishi herself:
- she shaved her own head (calmly, as Togasaki mentioned in a supplementary post on AKB's official blog)
- her punishment for being involved with Shirahama is demotion
- she admitted to wrongdoing ("this was all my fault")
Please (https://twitter.com/Bilingual48/status/297231961884336128) see (https://twitter.com/Bilingual48/status/297232063885623296) my (https://twitter.com/Bilingual48/status/297232254537707520) [urlhttps://twitter.com/Bilingual48/status/297232348246839296]twitter[/url] translations (https://twitter.com/Bilingual48/status/297232555126689792) of (https://twitter.com/Bilingual48/status/297232802687098880) the (https://twitter.com/Bilingual48/status/297233000708579328) Togasaki (https://twitter.com/Bilingual48/status/297233193143246849) post (https://twitter.com/Bilingual48/status/297233333027487744) from (https://twitter.com/Bilingual48/status/297233491458928640) this (https://twitter.com/Bilingual48/status/297233559805124609) afternoon (https://twitter.com/Bilingual48/status/297233792895164416) for (https://twitter.com/Bilingual48/status/297234064765771776) more (https://twitter.com/Bilingual48/status/297234713951756289) information (https://twitter.com/Bilingual48/status/297235254786273280).
Anything else is speculation. Calling this a "sex scandal" is not quite correct because no one knows the extent of her "wrongdoing" and I don't think we'll ever find out. If legit Japanese news sources aren't calling this a sex scandal, why are Western tumblr users exaggerating?
As for head-shaving, feminist movement and gender equality - this might be hard to believe, but in Japanese culture, head-shaving is one way for a person to show regret and take responsibility for having done something wrong, or failing to keep a promise. One may think of head-shaving as a modern version of the archaic practice of ritual suicide.
In recent Japanese history, people have shaved their own heads for much lesser reasons:
- in 1982 and 1999, two newscasters shaved their heads because the baseball team one of them supported did not win (1982); the other shaved his head in 1999 because the team he hated won (the team is Yomiuri Giants in both cases)
- Dervish Yu, a Japanese pitcher who now plays for Texas Rangers, shaved his head in 2008 because the Japanese National Baseball Team lost to Cuba
- Nagashima Shigeo, a hall-of-famer in Japanese Baseball, once shaved his head to apologize for behaving poorly to an umpire
It is relatively rare for women to shave their heads, but this does not mean they don't.
Westerners who are not familiar with this part of the Japanese culture will certainly see Minegishi's shaved head as something else, and that's understandable. But I do wish the most outspoken tumblr users would do a bit of research before condemning a whole organization with insufficient knowledge.
As for the no-dating clause - I really dislike getting into this topic with non-fans, because this is a touchy / hairy subject even with existing fans. In fact members don't even like to discuss it other than repeating the rule. The bottom line is that they all joined AKB knowing that they could get in trouble for dating, and they willingly stayed in the group.
It is one thing to feel sorry for Minegishi, but quite another to call for boycotts or advocate gender equality in Japan when one doesn't know better. Values that one grew up with aren't necessary the same for everyone, and what one sees on a regular basis in his/her home country is not always the norm in other countries. If we can all take a little time to understand one another before being so judgmental, the world would be a much better place.
Here is a good place to start reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_competence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_competence)
cr: http://bilingual48.blogspot.hk/2013/02/cultural-competence.html (http://bilingual48.blogspot.hk/2013/02/cultural-competence.html)
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It looks like this story has really taken off on the world stage.
A lot of the major British newspapers/news websites have written about this, and not just the tabloids like the Daily Mail who reported on the Chiyuu photobook scandal:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/01/japanese-pop-star-apology-boyfriend (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/01/japanese-pop-star-apology-boyfriend)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/music-news/9841441/Japanese-pop-star-shaves-head-in-penance-for-sex-scandal.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/music-news/9841441/Japanese-pop-star-shaves-head-in-penance-for-sex-scandal.html)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/hair-today-gone-tomorrow-japanese-pop-star-minami-minegishi-shaves-head-after-getting-caught-having-sex-8477787.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/hair-today-gone-tomorrow-japanese-pop-star-minami-minegishi-shaves-head-after-getting-caught-having-sex-8477787.html)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/minami-minegishi-shaves-head-and-issues-1569436 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/minami-minegishi-shaves-head-and-issues-1569436)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21299324 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21299324) (Complete with dubbed video of her announcement)
The BBC article links to these other news websites from around the world:
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Entertainment/Celebrities/2013/Feb-01/204592-japan-pop-idol-shaves-head-after-sex-scandal.ashx (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Entertainment/Celebrities/2013/Feb-01/204592-japan-pop-idol-shaves-head-after-sex-scandal.ashx)
http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1141119/japan-pop-idol-shaves-head-and-makes-tearful-youtube-apology-after-sex (http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1141119/japan-pop-idol-shaves-head-and-makes-tearful-youtube-apology-after-sex)
http://www.timeslive.co.za/entertainment/celebrity/2013/02/01/pop-star-shaves-head-apologises-for-having-sex (http://www.timeslive.co.za/entertainment/celebrity/2013/02/01/pop-star-shaves-head-apologises-for-having-sex)
Others found from google news (so I have no idea what these are, and haven't clicked on them)
http://www.gigwise.com/news/79259/japanese-pop-idol-shaves-head-as-apology-for-having-sex (http://www.gigwise.com/news/79259/japanese-pop-idol-shaves-head-as-apology-for-having-sex)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/music/japan-akb48-pop-idol-minami-minegishi-shaves-head-in-penance-for-spending-night-with-man/story-e6frf9hf-1226567125292 (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/music/japan-akb48-pop-idol-minami-minegishi-shaves-head-in-penance-for-spending-night-with-man/story-e6frf9hf-1226567125292)
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/02/pop-star-shaves-head-in-remorse-for-dating/ (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/02/pop-star-shaves-head-in-remorse-for-dating/)
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/odd/news/a455717/japanese-akb48-popstar-shaves-head-after-sex-scandal.html (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/odd/news/a455717/japanese-akb48-popstar-shaves-head-after-sex-scandal.html)
http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/02/01/japanese-pop-star-minami-minegishi-apologizes-for-romance-shaves-head-to-repent/ (http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/02/01/japanese-pop-star-minami-minegishi-apologizes-for-romance-shaves-head-to-repent/)
http://japandailypress.com/akb48s-minami-minegishi-caught-leaving-mans-apartment-shaves-head-posts-tearful-youtube-apology-0122526 (http://japandailypress.com/akb48s-minami-minegishi-caught-leaving-mans-apartment-shaves-head-posts-tearful-youtube-apology-0122526)
http://perezhilton.com/2013-01-31-japanese-pop-star-shaves-head-sex-akb48-minegishi-minami (http://perezhilton.com/2013-01-31-japanese-pop-star-shaves-head-sex-akb48-minegishi-minami)
http://www.tntmagazine.com/news/showbiz/video-japanese-pop-star-appears-with-shaven-head-for-staying-at-boyfriends-flat-in-harrowing-apology-clip (http://www.tntmagazine.com/news/showbiz/video-japanese-pop-star-appears-with-shaven-head-for-staying-at-boyfriends-flat-in-harrowing-apology-clip)
http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2013/02/01/akb48-member-minami-minegishi-has-fling-with-dancer-apologizes-on-youtube/ (http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2013/02/01/akb48-member-minami-minegishi-has-fling-with-dancer-apologizes-on-youtube/)
http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/arts/scene/blog.html?b=arts.nationalpost.com/2013/02/01/japanese-pop-star-minami-minegishi-shaves-head-after-spending-the-night-with-her-boyfriend (http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/arts/scene/blog.html?b=arts.nationalpost.com/2013/02/01/japanese-pop-star-minami-minegishi-shaves-head-after-spending-the-night-with-her-boyfriend)
Japan Times:
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/02/01/national/akb48-idol-begs-for-fans-mercy-after-breaking-dating-ban/#.UQv2gG9RVp0 (http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/02/01/national/akb48-idol-begs-for-fans-mercy-after-breaking-dating-ban/#.UQv2gG9RVp0)
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2013/02/01/music/akb48-members-penance-shows-flaws-in-idol-culture/#.UQv2X29RVp0 (http://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2013/02/01/music/akb48-members-penance-shows-flaws-in-idol-culture/#.UQv2X29RVp0)
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2013/01/22/how-tos/akb48-unionize-and-take-back-your-lost-love-lives/#at_pco=cfd-1.0 (http://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2013/01/22/how-tos/akb48-unionize-and-take-back-your-lost-love-lives/#at_pco=cfd-1.0)
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The more I read about this the less I know what to think about it. There are many scenarios, but once again, we will never know what happened behind the scenes for real.
There's the issue whether she did shave her head voluntarily or whether she was told to by the management.
She could have shaved her head:
A. To be absolutely sure she can remain in the group; the "I've been punished more than enough" approach.
B. So it makes her the victim. Just look anywhere, people are jumping through hoops showing their support for her.
C. As a massive publicity stunt. (this would suck, but I'm not surprised by anything anymore).
There are so many variables. We don't know how big the scale of this really is. Same as with the all the Kasai stuff really.
We have AKB's management, Ogi Pro agency, mass media, etc. all trying to look after their own interests, sometimes hurting the AKB members in the process of it all.
So yeah, I'm not really sure what to think. Miichan knows the rules better than anyone. Whether or not the rules are too extreme or outdated is an entirely different discussion altogether. I think her demotion to KKS would have sufficed, but if it really was her idea to shave her head and appear in a dramatic online apology that's her own fault. I can't really feel sorry for her in that aspect.
Once again, there are many scenarios of how she could have handled this scandal. Let it blow over (Kana), talk it over with the management and accept the demotion (Sayaka), leave the group (Nacchan/Rumi), etc. The fact that she chose this massive public display comes across like she really is 'guilty' and that it's been probably been going on for a much longer time.
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I don't think it's as variable as you say it is.
The 恋愛禁止 is a weird beast. We have instances of Akimoto saying 'I never said that', or varying punishments for girls that all fall under that particular rule. It's like they made it very ambiguous on purpose. Miichan probably knew she didn't need to shave her head, but she did it anyway. This wasn't for the fans at all, it seemed like it was a projection of what she thought about 恋愛禁止条例. It's sad that it came to this at all, really, but no one actually talked about Miichan.
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C. As a massive publicity stunt.
I think that's most of it. We've had scandals before. Some girls got fired, some got transferred, some got titles taken away, and some just went about their fucking business. They could have let this blow over or do something more typical. But no, instead, we go for the shock angle. Look at the huge international reaction it got! Like Barrie said we'll never truly know who really decided to do what, but from my perspective, all I can think is Mi$$ion Accompli$hed.
Coming in 2014!! Documentary of AKB48: No Hair on Your Head :yep:
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Almost every site I went on had Miichan featuring on it. I think this will be another "Aimi Eguchi" which got a lot of international media attention.
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im a new fan of akb48 :heart: :heart: :bow: :bow: I got into them by accident (around oct of last year)I was looking for jdramas to watch and someone recommended me mendol ikemen idol so I got it i fell in love with the girls of mendol (no3b)and loved it love no3b(specially michan love her on akbingo its always fun when shes around) and found out more about them watch their pvs,akbingo,majisuka gakuen etc I have their cds and no3b latest cd I was devastated.upset :cry: when I found out this happen to her im not sure what to say on my end but I did have a talk with my mother dow shes not a Japanese fan at all none in my fam are :nervous I can dicuss things with her and I told her and ask for her opinion and she said that dow minegishi knew as a veteran of akb48 the sacred rule of no boyfriends and still she did this that is still her private life and should be allowed to do what she wants with it and that its sad that akb48 managers have that kind of rule around. that no one should have the right over someone elses private life or love life and she hopes that everything turns out right for her she also believes just like I do that maybe the whole shaving off her hair wasent all her idea but that's just us...
in another note it seems there a lot of non michan fans out there on youtube posting up their opinions and heres one of them she makes me really mad shes laughting throught the whole vid :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
Minegishi Minami Scandal! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhbkWOldDrI#)
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I'm gonna kill this girl :angry: :shifty: :temper:
she makes me sick :hip burp:
SHE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING!!! :banghead:
Miichan was in AKB since it started so she doesn't understand how Miichan felt
even though she might of made a mistake with shaving her head and the whole scandal, fans or not
she's already done it and its in the past and if Miichan felt like she had to do something like this let's just be
thankful and grateful that she's hasn't hurt herself!!!
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uhh...that girl... :scolding: mind your own business!!
you just want to talk about yourself! :temper:
i feel like i wanna :kickass: you!!
It is not fun but its funny??!! :knee:
you don't know anything but you make a video giving your opinion about it..seriously!
for Miichan, AKB48 is her life.. AKB48's fan understand why she did that.. 7 years would be a waste of time if she just leave like that.
we understand her.
sometimes people do not understand why there was a love-ban-rule for some idols group.
I did not pity her, but I really respect her determination..
:depressed:
okay, everyone have their own opinion..
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Minami and nearly all of the girls were admitted into the group when they were either in junior high or early high school.
The reason I bring this up is that the companies behind the pop idols are businesses, with profit in mind. They have many adults who either work for these companies directly, or are contract workers who depend on the business they get from the production companies.
So it is a difficult situation to begin with- the producers need to push the artists to improve their performance level, so that the buyers (fans) will continue to buy the products, yet as adults, they have to guide the artists as they transition from young teens into adulthood.The producers really do have a moral responsibility to look after the kids, just like school teachers and firemen/policeman do.
All the details in the fans and new media outlets don't really concern me. I try to keep it simple- I like seeing the artists improve their artistic and/or variety skills, I like to be cheered up by harmless entertainment, when real life situations are not always so good. I am happy that the production companies and the artists are working hard to make their product fun and that they make gettimg to know the artists better an interesting experience.
A bonus for me was after the earthquake, when the whole population was in a state of shock over the extreme loss of life, all of the various entertainment companies put on fundraising, and personal appearance campaigns to help cheer up the country. Sure, it would benefit the companies to create this good will, but when I watched various clips of the young artists visiting the parts of the country that were worst effected, and saw children and their parents geniunely overjoyed that these idols came to see them, I was moved tremendously.
Minami has been the sort of artist who always seemed to want to present the best product that she could, and basically having worked in the adult world since she was a middle school kid, I can see how she could make a mistake or two here and there, just like any other kid. But in her case, it makes the front pages of the tabloids. And by the way, a form of advertisement for the tabloids is too hang sheets in the subway cars, with all the latest headlines, including little pictures from the tabloids. So, whether her shock was just from 'getting caught' or from a growing horror that she realized she was about to lose something that she really valued, I will never fully know.
But I saw a hurt person who was a good kid, who made me forget some of my problems, and I have no qualms about saying I will continue to like the public persona of Minami Minegishi (and others out there) because I trust that 90% of what I am seeiing is the truth, which is about all you can expect in life.
The JPH!P family has been a force for good in many cases, whether celebrating the life of someone that we lost too soon, or cheering up an idol when she was down (a bunch of you sent messages to one of the Morning Musume members, and she mentioned on her blog that all these foreign fans had reached out to her- I am sure she was thrilled), or encouraging each other.....Minami is just like any one of us at this point. So let's try to focus on the good, and not let the bad or the cynical take us down.
Keep on keeping on y'all! :cow: :heart: :heart: :heart:
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AKS is taking down the Minegishi apology video. She apologized in person at the handshake event today.
Great... You better take down that video... rather than spreading more false story to other country...
It makes me really pissed when i heard other countries spread false story like "sex scandal" of Miichan! DX
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News report from Oricon:
Miichan gave a public apology at the handshake event today at the Makuhari Messe. She got lots of cheers and applause from the fans. There were apparently many requests from fans for the video to be removed from youtube, so it will shortly be taken down from AKB48's official channel.
http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/entertainment/2021292/full/ (http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/entertainment/2021292/full/)
Edit: it appears this is the same as a post by Togasaki on the official blog: http://ameblo.jp/akihabara48/entry-11462312241.html (http://ameblo.jp/akihabara48/entry-11462312241.html)
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Here's the English translation from Togasaki in official blog
Notice of termination of Minegishi Minami's video message
峯岸みなみメッセージ映像 配信終了時間のお知らせ
Notice of termination of Minegishi Minami’s video message
本日、2月2日(土）の大握手会において、峯岸みなみより、改めて来場のファンの皆さまの前で、今回の件につきまして謝罪をさせていただきました。
Today, at the big handshake event on February 2 (Sat), Minegishi Minami has once again apologized to the fans coming to this event about the issue this time.
ファンの皆さまの暖かい拍手に包まれ、峯岸の反省とAKB48への思いは、峯岸自身の言葉できちんとファンの皆さまにもお伝えできたのではないか、と思います。
Surrounded by the warm applause of the fans, I think that Minegishi might have been able to tell the fans her self-reflection and her feelings toward AKB48 in her own words.
つきましては、ファンの皆さまから、「みぃちゃんの誠意は充分に伝わったから、YouTubeの映像は取り下げてほしい」というご要望をたくさんいただきました。
Also, we’ve received a lot of requests from the fans such as “Mii-chan’s sincerity had been passed to us enough, so we want you to remove the video on YouTube”.
峯岸本人に、ファンの皆さまからの要望を伝えたところ、「ファンの皆さんからの声は、ほんとうにありがたい気持ちでいっぱいです」ということでしたので、ファンの皆さまからのご要望、及び本人の気持ちも考慮し、本日いっぱいをもって、謝罪映像は削除させて頂くことに致します。
When we told Minegishi herself about the requests from the fans, she said “I’m filled with a lot of grateful feelings to the fans’ voices.”, and so, with a lot of considerations today about the fans’ requests and Minegishi’s feelings, we would like to remove the apologize video.
今回の件につきましては、改めて猛省を促すと共に、今後、ファンの皆さまからの信頼を回復し得るまで、峯岸自身の謝罪の念が消えることはないと思いますが、ファンの皆さまにおかれましては、今後とも、峯岸みなみ、およびAKB48の応援をよろしくお願い申し上げます。
About this issue, along with urging her to reflect herself seriously, I think that Minegishi’s apologetic feelings wouldn’t disappear until she could regain the trust from the fans, but I would like the supports toward Minegishi Minami and AKB48 within the fans to be kept continuing in the future.
AKB48グループ総支配人 戸賀崎智信
AKB48 group general manager Togasaki Tomonobu
Source: http://chichan54.tumblr.com/ (http://chichan54.tumblr.com/)
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This incident has taken the world by storm! And i feel very uncomfortable.It's like a small bushfire and then a huge gust of wind starts fanning it.I think this is a terrible year within the AKB Family since Acchan left and the reshuffling and all it happen in just a month or two.how i wish it will all end next week so i can have a better sleep and let those sensationalised scandals laid to rest. :peace:
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I'm getting so sick of hearing people who don't understand idol culture talk to me about this. They're all like "Did you hear about the Japanese girl who was FORCED TO SHAVE ALL HER HAIR OFF ON YOUTUBE" and I just want to punch them in the face every time I hear it because I'm tired of explaining all the reasons why AKB48 managers would never do that, because it's COMPLETELY ILLOGICAL.
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I'm getting so sick of hearing people who don't understand idol culture talk to me about this. They're all like "Did you hear about the Japanese girl who was FORCED TO SHAVE ALL HER HAIR OFF ON YOUTUBE" and I just want to punch them in the face every time I hear it because I'm tired of explaining all the reasons why AKB48 managers would never do that, because it's COMPLETELY ILLOGICAL.
same here dow I was just sick of how the international media got hold of the story and made all big and bad and everyone that wasent a fan or didn't know anything about her or akb48 etc would talk trash about her it made me mad reading all those articles online and watching all those vids on youtube that and the news on tv they took it too far id say its sad really...im glad no one ask me in person about it cause im not sure what I would do to them :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: im just hoping this all blows all over for michan's sake good thing shes not the top trending topic on yahoo anymore which is good dow its a bit upsetting that people found out about akb48 for the first time throught this supposed sex scandal... :( :( :( :cry: but oh well cant be help I guess and hoping that it happens soon so that she can get on with her life its hard to believe that these happen she was supposibly the luckiest of all the members for this year .... I keep hearing stuff about how everyone is curse or something cause acchan aint around anymore or something I think its just mumbo jumbo to me... :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
I just want michan to be her old self I love her when she went to ny she was sooo funny (btw michan I love shrimp tooo) :lol: :lol: :lol:
Akb48 funny#3 - Miichan's engrish (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d92mRfbV-30#ws)
and other random vids of other peoples opinion and news
Japanese popstar shaves head after being seen leaving boy's home (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMoGij7gKPI#ws)
Explaining AKB48's Apology - 峯岸みなみからのメッセージ / AKB48[公式] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSYhNJBPL9I#ws)
for Minami Minegishi AKB48 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16BHXA69ZpU#)
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=minami+minegishi%2C+this+week&lclk=this_week (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=minami+minegishi%2C+this+week&lclk=this_week)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMoGij7gKPI
Thanks so much! I watched the BBC news as I thought they would appear on that since the story was 5th "most shared" story on their website and they even dubbed some of Miichan's vid: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21299324 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21299324)
But I didn't think of watching the Channel 4 news so very excited they appeared on it. Wish I'd watched this live on TV but good to have this recording.
It was so cool! They showed clips of PVs, explained the group fairly well and even the Puccho commercial with Paruru + Yuko "kiss", and some of Miichan's Guam confession scene. Krishnan Guru-Murthy was pretty good at pronouncing her name too.
The headline in the screencap of the youtube is "Girls allowed?", a nice play on Girls Aloud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls_aloud), the British girl band.
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The problem here isn't people not understanding idol culture but instead it's the out-dated opinion that woman have to be "pure" which still seems to be popular in the year 2013 in some developed countries.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMoGij7gKPI
Thanks so much! I watched the BBC news as I thought they would appear on that since the story was 5th "most shared" story on their website and they even dubbed some of Miichan's vid: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21299324 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21299324)
But I didn't think of watching the Channel 4 news so very excited they appeared on it. Wish I'd watched this live on TV but good to have this recording.
It was so cool! They showed clips of PVs, explained the group fairly well and even the Puccho commercial with Paruru + Yuko "kiss", and some of Miichan's Guam confession scene. Krishnan Guru-Murthy was pretty good at pronouncing her name too.
The headline in the screencap of the youtube is "Girls allowed?", a nice play on Girls Aloud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls_aloud), the British girl band.
your welcome :thumbup this vid was actually the only one I like it seemed accurate to me and not annoying or irritating to watch dow I didn't get to see this one in particular on tv I did see a clip or two on two Spanish news channels on tv dow I cant find them on youtube :( yes I noticed they had acouple of actual akb48 vids on there and I thought it was interesting them showing the passing around the candy from mouth to mouth vid 8) yup gotta love yuko :heart: :heart: and miichan too :thumbsup
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well from what I read and heard they took down miichan's vid which is great and im also glad she not the top trending on yahoo anymore now I hope she can start a new you know hakuna matata dow I went on their youtube and this vid was on there any chance you guys may know what it says? im still not good and Japanese language but I think it say something about miichan .... sorry for asking :nervous
峯岸みなみメッセージ映像 配信終了時間のお知らせ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmPcbPsPxo4#ws)
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I'm really not sure about what a 14 year old like me can say about such a broad issue in my fandom. I know you guys have a bigger, more mature say on this, so I'll keep my mouth shut.
I'm just certain that she did what she think is best for herself, AKB48, the fans, and everyone else.
I'm also happy that the steady fanbase isn't taking this too negatively but instead with warmth and support.
I heard that this got around worldwide. Meanwhile, this news also reached the Philippines. The way it's written is trash. SEX scandal? Hilarity.
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/292975/showbiz/showbizabroad/japan-pop-idol-shaves-head-after-sex-scandal (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/292975/showbiz/showbizabroad/japan-pop-idol-shaves-head-after-sex-scandal)
Why idols of Japan are shown with a character as horrible like this internationally, it's ridiculous. Also, they've never written about AKB's successes, but all about their "failures" and "downfalls". No hope for my country's media much?
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I'm really not sure about what a 14 year old like me can say about such a broad issue in my fandom. I know you guys have a bigger, more mature say on this, so I'll keep my mouth shut.
I'm just certain that she did what she think is best for herself, AKB48, the fans, and everyone else.
I'm also happy that the steady fanbase isn't taking this too negatively but instead with warmth and support.
I heard that this got around worldwide. Meanwhile, this news also reached the Philippines. The way it's written is trash. SEX scandal? Hilarity.
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/292975/showbiz/showbizabroad/japan-pop-idol-shaves-head-after-sex-scandal (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/292975/showbiz/showbizabroad/japan-pop-idol-shaves-head-after-sex-scandal)
Why idols of Japan are shown with a character as horrible like this internationally, it's ridiculous. Also, they've never written about AKB's successes, but all about their "failures" and "downfalls". No hope for my country's media much?
my mother always says don't listen or believe what you read on tv or newspaper they never tell the whole story ... im 24 years old and dow im older than I still not sure what to say exactly about this my mother always said follow your heart never let anyone control you and what you wanna do ...yeah I know right everywhere they talk about this and I thought people were starting to forgot I just log into my aol and this was on the latest news
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/02/pop-star-shaves-head-minami-minegishi-japan_n_2608048.html?utm_hp_ref=world&ir=World (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/02/pop-star-shaves-head-minami-minegishi-japan_n_2608048.html?utm_hp_ref=world&ir=World)
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WOW. Yeah who is what to believe. Esp. with a big corporation. You see stories planted at just the right time.
Feel free to express yourself CtrlZee! 14 to 44 to 84 we all got something to say!
I support GISH. First thing I thought was DAMN! She wants to look like my Homie, Masa, now dat's just straight :pimp:
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(http://i49.tinypic.com/2dhi9tj.jpg)
Some comments from Japanese fans (http://www.japancrush.com/2013/videos/japanese-girl-band-member-shaves-head-as-punishment-for-sex.html)
Comments from 2ch.net:
Mura (Imo):
Isn’t this culture of accepting an apology if someone shaves off their hair a bit weird? Especially when there are some people nowadays who do it themselves for the sake of fashion.
Exotic Short-hair (Kanagawa):
Wow, that really is close-cropped w Still, she’s minging.
Mura (Imo):
Akimoto (AKB48 manager): ‘doing something like this would save her from her criticism (with a smirk)’
Snow Lepoard (Iwate):
Close-cropped, hilarious www This has set a good precedent, let’s find out all the scandals and make JKC48.
Turkish Van (Tokyo):
Ha, sacked or not sacked, surely she’d have her hair cut this much.
Nothing left if not in AKB.
Scottish Fold (Yamaguchi):
YouTube is international, a Japanese shame to the world.
It’s just like a girl being a hostage of terrorists and apologizing or something.
Kuro ashi neko(Tochigi):
It’s abuse of human rights not to allow them to have their own romantic relationships I reckon?
They still can’t moan, otherwise they’d be sacked.
Total power harassment preying on the weak, sick eugh.
Fingers crossed Akimoto is going to be punished!
Wildcat (Niwa):
Is this what she gets in return for a quick shag?
Comments from Itai News:
Siam (Kinoko)：
Gross wwwwwww Turns me off.
Kodokodo (Yawaraka Ginkou)：
The physical punishment at Sakuranomiya high school has been such a big thing in papers and now she’s shaved her head?(゜д゜)
Jaguar (Yawaraka Ginkou)：
Close-cropped hair now? SO timely, well setup, AKB is such a business.
Himalayan (Kantou・Koushin'etsu)：
Straight after the Judo thing at high school? That’d give the world the strong impression that Japan ignores women’s human rights w.
Kuro ashi neko (Tochigi)：
Let’s spread this around the world and see how they feel about it. Westerners would definitely find it weird.
Munchkin (Tokyo)：
She’s 20, she only shagged a guy, she didn’t have to shave her head. Surely she’d have kept shagging him if it hadn’t been revealed by the media.
Andean cat (Tokyo)：
Awful. It’s just abuse, isn’t it? Does this make her fans any happy?
Hyou (Xinjiang Uygur Territory)：
It suits her. Better looking now.
Spain Lynx (Ibaraki)：
What about telly? Can she still make appearances?
Kiji Tora (Tokyo)：
They’re more like a religious organisation now w
Black (Chiba)：
It’s going way too far to make her do this.
Suna Neko (Kyoto)：
This is a human rights matter now. The Japanese media is bloody useless and I don’t suppose they can’t recognise what they’ve done or atone for it until they get forced to by external pressure.
I believe the translator is British, which explains all of the British slang incorporated into the translations XD I think most of it is pretty common knowledge though, the only one that it took me a minute to decipher was Minger/Minging - which is unattractive (I think anyway. It's been a while since I've seen Skins lol).
But it seems that some fans feel that this was taking it a bit far as well. We have to also take into consideration the translators possible bias, and that they could have just plucked comments that suited their POV.
Anyway, I've said this other places, and will say it again: I don't like how publicly it was handled personally, but it all worked out well for Miichan in the end.
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I don't think Miichan imagined it'd led to such a massive shitstorm
But what puzzles is she went a head to commence her head shaving i.e. she basically confessed: was it done on rash impulse?
Her image is, after all, the interest, no, make that business of her managing agency
Had she thought of consulting Aki-P's management first? Idols' agencies are prepared & have stuck with their girls & said "no, didn't happen" & moved on; like the case with Sashihara
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Miichan made her first appearance performing in the AKB Theatre with the current kenkyuusei for their stage "Boko no Taiyou"
Since she appeared in this stage when Himawarigumi did it, she takes her old position, including the unit song "Idol Nante Yobanaide".
However, since Iwatate Saho is currently in this spot, Miichan did the first half of the show and Saho the second half. Miichan wasn't officially scheduled in the member list for this show which already had 16 members, but for the next lot of KKS shows there are only 15 members scheduled...
The most shocking thing - she appeared in a wig:
(http://s7.postimage.org/cufuiat4n/217f17dc_s.png) (http://postimage.org/image/cufuiat4n/) (http://s7.postimage.org/vo1nfarcn/398a4b62_s.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/vo1nfarcn/) (http://s7.postimage.org/qdwoo073r/17acdc9f.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/qdwoo073r/)
Personally, I think this wig looks ridiculous, and since she made the bold move to shave her head to apologise, she should show it in public in her performances, otherwise what was the point? Especially as this wig isn't a good look anyway - but maybe she can find a better one soon.
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I told you she'd have to wear a wig!!! :rofl: :cathappy:
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If they gave her that Acchan wig on purpose I can sort of the see the humor/irony of it :nervous
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Going through G+, and I see a "Trending" post about Miichan, and these comments people make totally make me want to punch them in the face :angry:
....Many of these girls have even become porn stars because of how they were manipulated....
:banghead:
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Going through G+, and I see a "Trending" post about Miichan, and these comments people make totally make me want to punch them in the face :angry:
....Many of these girls have even become porn stars because of how they were manipulated....
:banghead:
now I admit I haven't been a fan of akb48 /no3b that long I started following them around nov of last year so yea but I thought it was like 2 or 3 that went into that kind of biss now I may be wrong here two of them if im correct were sisters? not all akb48 ex members end up doing that kind of thing im pretty positive
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Going through G+, and I see a "Trending" post about Miichan, and these comments people make totally make me want to punch them in the face :angry:
....Many of these girls have even become porn stars because of how they were manipulated....
:banghead:
now I admit I haven't been a fan of akb48 /no3b that long I started following them around nov of last year so yea but I thought it was like 2 or 3 that went into that kind of biss now I may be wrong here two of them if im correct were sisters? not all akb48 ex members end up doing that kind of thing im pretty positive
Only one former -48 member has gone into AV - Nakanishi Rika. I believe her sister (who was never in AKB or any -48 group) also started an AV career later.
Nakanishi actually ended up being sued by AKS for violation of a contract she signed about not doing things like that due to the impact on AKB's image. Not sure whatever happened with that.
There was a former Hello! Project member who also went into AV (one of the original Country Musume. girls), but oddly no one ever talks about that
(And, off topic, but nice avatar! I don't know of any myu girls who went into AV, but Shimada Sara and Nakayama Hiroko ended up naked everywhere....)
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Going through G+, and I see a "Trending" post about Miichan, and these comments people make totally make me want to punch them in the face :angry:
....Many of these girls have even become porn stars because of how they were manipulated....
:banghead:
now I admit I haven't been a fan of akb48 /no3b that long I started following them around nov of last year so yea but I thought it was like 2 or 3 that went into that kind of biss now I may be wrong here two of them if im correct were sisters? not all akb48 ex members end up doing that kind of thing im pretty positive
Only one former -48 member has gone into AV - Nakanishi Rika. I believe her sister (who was never in AKB or any -48 group) also started an AV career later.
Nakanishi actually ended up being sued by AKS for violation of a contract she signed about not doing things like that due to the impact on AKB's image. Not sure whatever happened with that.
There was a former Hello! Project member who also went into AV (one of the original Country Musume. girls), but oddly no one ever talks about that
(And, off topic, but nice avatar! I don't know of any myu girls who went into AV, but Shimada Sara and Nakayama Hiroko ended up naked everywhere....)
oh made a big mistake glad you corrected me heh :doh: and im glad you corrected me thanks i love the sailor moon musicals nao takagi and asami yuuka were always my fav sailor uranus and sailor neptune :inlove: :inlove: :inlove: too bad they graduated from the show and they stop the musicals but hoping they come back now that a new sm is out :cow:
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Going through G+, and I see a "Trending" post about Miichan, and these comments people make totally make me want to punch them in the face :angry:
....Many of these girls have even become porn stars because of how they were manipulated....
:banghead:
now I admit I haven't been a fan of akb48 /no3b that long I started following them around nov of last year so yea but I thought it was like 2 or 3 that went into that kind of biss now I may be wrong here two of them if im correct were sisters? not all akb48 ex members end up doing that kind of thing im pretty positive
Only one former -48 member has gone into AV - Nakanishi Rika. I believe her sister (who was never in AKB or any -48 group) also started an AV career later.
Nakanishi actually ended up being sued by AKS for violation of a contract she signed about not doing things like that due to the impact on AKB's image. Not sure whatever happened with that.
There was a former Hello! Project member who also went into AV (one of the original Country Musume. girls), but oddly no one ever talks about that
(And, off topic, but nice avatar! I don't know of any myu girls who went into AV, but Shimada Sara and Nakayama Hiroko ended up naked everywhere....)
dude myu girls really did that woah didnt know :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: shimada sara sounds familiar oh holly s##t shes the other girl i thought look great as sailor neptune wow :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: and nakayama hiroko is the first girl that played rei a.k.a sailor mars wow well its their choice i guess thanks for this shocking facts :thumbup :thumbup