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HiP Nation => Classic Threads => Classic H!P => Topic started by: Linus on July 23, 2006, 06:28:39 PM
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What the... o_O
Konno Asami and Ogawa Makoto performed for the very last time in a Hello!Project concert. The big live was held at Yoyogi National Stadium, placing a cool and big stage at the middle of the arena, surrounded by fans everywhere. Miyabi from Berryz could not be there because of a school event. Tsuji had to attend the event with crouches because she injured her leg yesterday.
Both Konno and Makoto are graduating this summer to focus on studies. Since Makoto will still be in H!P one month more, nobody expected to see her graduation ceremony today, although this is what actually happened, which surprised everyone.
Konno graduates today July 23rd, Makoto graduates on August 27th because she'll do the musical with the rest of H!P. That said, both had a ceremony today, which is the fact that astonished fans, who were expecting only Konno's ceremony, and Mako's one for the musical. The fact that the fans were not ready/warned about Mako's ceremony being made today as well (note all light-sticks are pink for Konno), made many of them to be upset, because no official source stated that Makoto would have had a ceremony today. Now it's said that Makoto will have another speech at the end of the musical performances.
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Both are graduating to go ahead with their studies. Go luck from now on!
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WTF? :shocked:
Man the Mako-wotas are gonna be royally pissed off.
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Mako has fans? :lol:
I kid. That is severely fucked up. There should've been some sort of announcement. Very bad move on UFW's part.
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sucks.... what were they thinking not annoucing that it's Makoto's grad concert too!!!
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This is so sad! It feels like Makoto always got the short end of the stick - Until the very end.... :o :cry:
She deserves better...
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I feel really bad for Ogawa.
What kind of crack is UFA on now? :-x Seriously. The least they could have done was make a small announcement about this and presto, pink AND yellow glow sticks as well as Mako chanting. And I'm sure Konno feels bad for Ogawa as well about this...
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I think they just wanted to give her a "proper" ceremony in an actual concert. It failed because they didn't announce it, so fans weren't prepared for that.
I still think Makoto still has that last musical.
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It's weird, but I thought everyone knew that today's was also Mako's last concert, since they won't have any more concerts till September, and she will leave on August 27th after the last Ribbon No Kishi performance. So it's natural that she was up there and made a grad speech too, IT WAS HER LAST CONCERT TOO. And it was officially Konkon's grad, so UFA's announcement was right, Mako's official grad will be August 27th
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WTF
Now, really, how must makoto feel? I thnink this is pretty fkd up. She never got really attention, and now this! But now i think its the best for her that shes out. maybe she can start something new later where she gets her DESERVED attention and respect. I dont know why she has so few fans compared to the others. shes not ugly, shes HELLa funny and she can sing...
Well i hope we will see at leas a HM! show with a makoto theme??!! (but i doubt it...)
poor mako chan:ksad:
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hope someone explain to her that the fans didn't know it's also a farewell for her. imagine going thru the concert hearing the fans just cheering for konkon and not her.. poor mako :cry:
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That's f'd up that they did that without any announcement.
We knew it was Makoto's last concert but her Graduation was supposed to be sometime in August. They never said exactly when, but since she's in the musical 'Ribbon no Kishi' from 1 -27 August then I assumed they'd be doing something on 27 August.
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Ah that sucked! They treated Mako as chopped liver again
and I bet many of her fans didn't go to this concert:x
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what the fuck.
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We knew it was Makoto's last concert but her Graduation was supposed to be sometime in August. They never said exactly when, but since she's in the musical 'Ribbon no Kishi' from 1 -27 August then I assumed they'd be doing something on 27 August.
yeah, they should have announce it as both girls' graduation not just konno's. we all thought it'd be in the musical:evil:
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For what I'm reading on other boards, people who went was also surprised. It was Makoto's last concert, ok, but apparently everyone expected her ceremony to be at the musical. Prove is that it was all pink. This would not have happened if things would have been announced better.
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unfair. just unfair.
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Poor Mako. She gets the short end of the stick, or, in this case, no stick at all.
I hope her fans light up the last musical, whether the company okays it or not.
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Ok it was kinda stupid not announce it earlier.
But people have done well without having a grad concert too. And at least she had one, eventhough there weren't so much her fans around.
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Poor Mako. She gets the short end of the stick, or, in this case, no stick at all.
I hope her fans light up the last musical, whether the company okays it or not.
Well said with that first line :P, and I agree with your last statement. That would be awesome if fans do that at the last musical. Would make her feel pretty good too, I guess. Man. Sucks that the people attending the concert weren't notified about it -_-;;
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NO! this in NOT fair! :( makoto is so lovely and nice and then this... DAMN THOSE WHO DECIDED THIS.
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WHAT THE FUCK!:evil: *throws something across the room*
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a "Mariconada"
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I'm disappointed :( Poor Mako, getting screwed over once again...
I bet she'll have a good sendoff at the musical though. They usually have a mini-concert after, right? I bet she'll get her yellow glowsticks then :)
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a "Mariconada"
trasnlation for sue
gayness , stab in the back etc etc etc
btw sue .. isn't konkon fault .. so ...
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This is just plain unfair! Poor Makoto!!!
Reminds me of the thread "Which Musume gets the least glory?" ...
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:shocked: Holy crap! For them to screw up that badly it almost makes me think it was on purpose. Absolute BS
Amazing that even in her one time to shine, her graduation concert, she was still somehow overlooked.
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Wow... BIG screw-up by management and a major PR blunder.
Who the hell "graduates" at a musical?!
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Poor Mako-chan :ksad:
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Jeez! I can't believe there was no announcement about this to her fans. It's so sad. Poor Makoto, she must have felt bad hearing people cheer for konkon instead of her.:doh:
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what the hell are those ppl thinking really... that is totally not fair at all... i feel bad for makoto now...
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Konno graduates today July 23rd, Makoto graduates on August 27th because she'll do the musical with the rest of H!P. That said, both had a ceremony today, which is the fact that astonished fans, who were expecting only Konno's ceremony, and Mako's one for the musical. The fact that the fans were not ready/warned about Mako's ceremony being made today as well (note all light-sticks are pink for Konno), made many of them to be upset, because no official source stated that Makoto would have had a ceremony today. Now it's said that Makoto will have another speech at the end of the musical performances.
People who went from JPM confirmed that nobody knew about Makoto's ceremony. I guess we should blame the concert organization for missing an important point like this! Sanpo titles "Konno's graduation" because it's Konno who's leaving H!P already, but talks about Konno and Mako ceremony, because both made it today. This is what fans didn't know that would happen, and all was about pink lights :(
I'm sure Makoto will have a warm byebye at the last musical performance :)
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Poor Makoto... I wonder if anyone at all in that industry realizes how bad they could make their own ppl feel. Just the other day I watched the Utaban where they gave graduation messages too, and I thought it wasn't funny at all how they kept treating Mako like crap and praising Konno. I know Mako was the new Kei for them, but wtf... and now this... I hope that girl is strong enough to not allow such stupid people to take her self-confidence away.
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(http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/8311/konnosotsugyouef0.th.jpg) (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=konnosotsugyouef0.jpg)
The pink glowstick, the so called "sirium pinku", were lighted. The National Yoyogi Stadium with more than 8 thousand people was witness to the graduation concert of two Morning Musume members, Asami Konno and, as an unplanned extra, Makoto Ogawa.
The fact is that Up-Front's official announcement didn't mention the ceremony was also for Makoto, since she will continue to be part of it until August 27th, so this ceremony is not considered her official grad, just her farewell to the concert crowd.
The concert started at 18:30 as planned. After the "Sexy Boy soyokaze ni yorisotte" performance, Nozomi Tsuji appeared onstage with crouches and bandages on her injured ankle, dressed with the event's costume but unable to dance, to ofer support for her friends and apologizing for not participating on the concert, her place being taken by Yurina Kumai from Berryz. Her "solo" song was replaced by "Nature is good" with Hitomi Yoshizawa and Tanaka Reina.
After the performance of "Ambitious! Yashinteki de Ii Jan", the stage went dark, and at that moment the fans lighted their pink glowsticks. To their surprise, both Asami Konno and Makoto Ogawa appeared onstage, dressed with graduation costumes.
There was no mayor modification from the official program, except this ceremony. From the four corners of the stage the member approached one by one, to wish them luck in their future and to shed a bittersweet tear with them.
(http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/2858/konnosotsugyou03rt1.jpg)
TRANSLATED FROM YUMEKI.ORG
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That Rika grad. pic making the rounds is getting annoying .-.;
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ummm.... there must be some communication mistake in this graduation concert. To tell the truth I'm not a big fan of Makoto but I hope she will actually get a proper graduation ceremony at the end of the musical. I'm suspecting that something "special" will happen to Makoto as Makoto always play a "special" role in H!P, MM, and H!M.
I don't know..... to me I think it's better to separate their graduation concert. Like the only 2 that you can really put together in 1 graduation concert are Aibon and Nono (a.k.a. W).
Anyhow I'm sure that Makoto will get something "special" as a graduation ceremony by the end of the musical. Or that they didn't give her an official graduation because it maybe a sign for her to come back after studying!
:D
Also...... it must be happy that Nono came with her injury to graduate KonKon and Makoto. Too bad Nacchi's grad didn't have that happened (with KonKon's sickness and Tsuji left-out because she can't handle Nacchi's grad)
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That Rika grad. pic making the rounds is getting annoying .-.;
Sorry about that pic, but every japanese forum and even Ikimasshoi carry it as if it was from Konkon's concert, and it was part of the piece I translated from Yumeki.org.
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Sorry for double posting, but have you noticed that Mako is getting all this attention, and then she will get her H!M special, and also be in the musical, and Konkon is not going to be here anymore? It kinda feels as Mako just hijacked Konkon's grad
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Nah. UFA messed up the handling of this, but I think it was OK for Konno overall.
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WTF!!! That's a bunch of BS! :x
Mako is one of the most loving members of MM and deservse more respect than that. I hope she'll get the attention she deservse at the last musical and even gets her own H!M special or I'll be pissed!!!
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Don't get me wrong, I love Makochan, and I hope she gets a proper graduation, maybe I did not express myself correctly, but she will still be around for a month, and she will still be part of H!P, but Konkon's name has already been erased from the lineups of every sub-unit and shuffle unit she was part of, as if she was never there, look at H!P official site and you'll see what I mean.
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Freak.
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(http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/6393/konkonrl6.jpg)
http://rapidshare.de/files/26785593/Konno_Graduation_clip__news_2006.07.24_.mpg.html
credit: lovemusic @ JPM
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Makoto's still around yes. But fact of matter is that if she was going to have her ceremony with Konkon, the least that UFA could have done was to give people a head's up on it. No matter how you look at it, it's just plain inconsiderate and downright unfair to both the girl and the members of the public that love her.
All I can say is that I'm glad that Makoto's leaving. She's a nice girl, good kid and deserves MUCH better than all the crappy treatment that she has been getting. At least outside, she'll be accorded with the kind of respect that she deserves as an individual, instead of being the old unwanted shoe all the time.
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That was mean. I would be mad tooo. makoto was/is part of morning musume too & should get the same treatment.
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THE AUDIO!
Here's stuff I got from an uploader.
Konno_Makoto_Graduation_07-23-2006 the concert audio HERE!
http://filedump.jphip.com/daigong/Konno_Makoto_Graduation_07-23-2006.mp3
Bunch_of_Graduation_Messages
http://filedump.jphip.com/daigong/Bunch_of_Graduation_Messages_to_Konno.mp3
Pretty heart wrenching stuff!!:cry:
ETA.
and yep. Don't hotlink Thanks!
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Whooo! I had a not so great version of the concert, so thank you daigong!! :heart:
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Damn look at em, it really breaks my heart to see em cry like that.
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Makoto got jobbed for sure. Guess she wanted to be low key. Even at her last gig, maaann..
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Please no more crying
time to sing Namida ga to...... (noooooo)
Oh and thanks daigong
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Oh wtf... Mako-wota got a serious screwing up the ass with this(and I guess Mako-chan got screwed too)...
But wow a double graduation. I'm betting this was a very emotional concert.
Since Makoto will still be in the musical they better have something special for her or something.
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Actually, both got pwned by Tsuji. She's the face in the newspapers and news lol
Worst graduation ever! xD
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Actually, both got pwned by Tsuji. She's the face in the newspapers and news lol
You know what? It happened here too. Our Tsuji incident thread (http://forum.jphip.com/showthread.php?t=4534) is more popular than this graduation concert thread.
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I think there's just more to say about it really...
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all i can say is that at least we now know that Mako 'graduated' alongside Konno because this is her last CONCERT, but for Konno, it's the last H!P related event she'll ever be a part of. Mako still has the musical and all, and there had better be something special happening for her on there...
but still, UFA was stupid to not announce it.
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all i can say is that at least we now know that Maki 'graduated' alongside Konno because this is her last CONCERT, but for Konno, it's the last H!P related event she'll ever be a part of. Mako still has the musical and all, and there had better be something special happening for her on there....
MAKI? :D
yep, Tsuji's fall makes the news more than Konno (and Makoto) 's graduation:P
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MAKI? :D
yep, Tsuji's fall makes the news more than Konno (and Makoto) 's graduation
oopsie! XD fixed it now
see what Gotou-san can do to one's mind? haha
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Another news clip. The first part is the same as the file on Hello Tracker but there's a much longer interview with Konno.
(http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/511/konkon2qi3.jpg)
http://rapidshare.de/files/26864882/Konno_Makoto_Grad_news_6.09__Dodesuka_2006.07.24_.avi.html
(http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7716/konkon3qw5.jpg)
http://rapidshare.de/files/26868468/Konno_Makoto_Grad_news__2zi_Pita__2006.07.24_.wmv.html
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One of the news clips I saw (either Geinou Dodesuka or Mezamashi TV, dont remember which and I already dumped both) was a real mess. Jumped all over the place, grad to nono to grad, and kept repeating clips in seemingly random order. I thought something was wrong with the way the file was playing!
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I went to the afternoon concert at Yoyogi and seriously I thought Mako got overcoated. The emphasis was on Konno, yes, true fans didnt know so cant blame the fans. But since they say Mako graduation concert is in august, but now is having her graduation ceremony, so is MM still have that concert in august? I am confused now. Konno graduated, but still is in the musical. So why cant Makoto have her own graduation concert?
When I showed up at the concert, I was surprised. I was like why are they selling Makoto graduation t-shirt when it is Konno`s? Now it all makes sense.
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Pushing her out the door to "School" if you believe that story still lol.
Now we get to read about what kind of job she gets..
Watch her at mosburger or something...
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Has UFA or anyone at H!P made any official statements regarding this disrespect to Mako and the fans being upset?
I still cant get over how they basically screwed Mako again, as usual. I dont even understand why she was always treated so badly.
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I went to the afternoon concert at Yoyogi and seriously I thought Mako got overcoated. The emphasis was on Konno, yes, true fans didnt know so cant blame the fans. But since they say Mako graduation concert is in august, but now is having her graduation ceremony, so is MM still have that concert in august? I am confused now. Konno graduated, but still is in the musical. So why cant Makoto have her own graduation concert?
When I showed up at the concert, I was surprised. I was like why are they selling Makoto graduation t-shirt when it is Konno`s? Now it all makes sense.
Sorry, but Konno is not in the musical. They published an announcement last month stating that since she must prepare for her school examinations, she won't be part of the musical. Check the official site for the musical http://www.ribbonnokishi.com/
About Makoto, she didn't graduate, she's still listed as part of Morning Musume on the H!P official site. She was just given the chance to say goodbye to a concert crowd because it was her LAST CONCERT too... she will graduate after the musical on August 27th
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Sorry, but Konno is not in the musical. They published an announcement last month stating that since she must prepare for her school examinations, she won't be part of the musical. Check the official site for the musical http://www.ribbonnokishi.com/
About Makoto, she didn't graduate, she's still listed as part of Morning Musume on the H!P official site. She was just given the chance to say goodbye to a concert crowd because it was her LAST CONCERT too... she will graduate after the musical on August 27th
Ohhh, thanks for the info. I guess I will be saying my goodbyes to Makoto at the musical. This just plan sucks. I wonder what they are going to do though? Give her one of those special graduation episode on HM? HP and stupid Upfront. Arggggg. Though I am not a huge fan of Makoto, but I feel bad for her now.