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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Foxy Brown on December 06, 2006, 08:58:36 PM
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A mother convinced Rock Hill police to arrest her 12-year-old son after he unwrapped a Christmas present early. (http://www.heraldonline.com/109/story/9901.html)
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wtf...what a grinch that mom is
now he has a juvenile record because of that...thanx mom for giving your son a screwed predisposition in life, merry xmas too
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wtf...what a grinch that mom is
now he has a juvenile record because of that...thanx mom for giving your son a screwed predisposition in life, merry xmas too
Maybe you missed this part in the article:
She said the boy likes attention and has a history of bad behavior. He has shoplifted from stores and stolen money from her, she said. The boy has also been inching toward expulsion from school, she added, and even punched a police officer last month. He was arrested for disorderly conduct in that incident.
She hoped the arrest would be a wake-up call for him. She dreads getting a phone call someday reporting he's been killed.
The boy "showed no remorse" when the police came, the mother said.
"I'm trying to get him some kind of help," she said. "He's the type of kid who doesn't believe anything until it happens."
Waldrop said the women were seeking help with a problem child. "He is a disruptive, disorderly kid."
It sounds like this is simply another addition to his rap sheet.
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wtf...what a grinch that mom is
now he has a juvenile record because of that...thanx mom for giving your son a screwed predisposition in life, merry xmas too
After reading the article, the kid probably already had a juvenile record, consideringShe said the boy likes attention and has a history of bad behavior. He has shoplifted from stores and stolen money from her, she said. The boy has also been inching toward expulsion from school, she added, and even punched a police officer last month. He was arrested for disorderly conduct in that incident.
She hoped the arrest would be a wake-up call for him.
If he continues on this path of irresponsible behaviour, it'll be more and more likely that the mother will have to face this particular fear:
She dreads getting a phone call someday reporting he's been killed.
She's not a grinch. She's a single mom who's probably at the end of her rope, so to speak, and who's scared about what type of person her son is becoming.
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Heh, beat ya to it, JFC.
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What a pathetic mother, calling the police because she hs no control over her own son. She should be the one getting help and a wake up call.
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okay, if he punched a cop, and was charged already, why would getting the cops to come for petty larceny send a 'wake up call' to him?
methinks the mother is full of BS.
he may be a bad kid, but that's just f'ing dumb.
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In case anyone missed it:
A mother convinced Rock Hill police to arrest her 12-year-old son after he unwrapped a Christmas present early.
When the boy's 27-year-old mother heard about the opened gift, she called police.
"He took it without permission. He wanted it. He just took it," said the 63-year-old great-grandmother.
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What the....I kinda missed that FB!
Sounds like that family started young! :ONglasses:
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Methinks that the thread title or opening post should say "READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE FIRST BEFORE YOU RESPOND", so that people who see this can find out the WHOLE story before they post.
Heh, beat ya to it, JFC.
No biggie, it's a point worth re-stating. :thumbsup
What a pathetic mother, calling the police because she hs no control over her own son. She should be the one getting help and a wake up call.
So if you were a single mom with a kid on a really troubled path like this kid was, that showed no remorse for the bad things he'd been doing (like shoplifting and assaulting a cop), you'd be fine with it? O_o
okay, if he punched a cop, and was charged already, why would getting the cops to come for petty larceny send a 'wake up call' to him?
methinks the mother is full of BS.
he may be a bad kid, but that's just f'ing dumb.
Put yourself in her shoes. She's probably desperate and willing to try anything to try and get her son to turn his life around.
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She should contact Dr. Phil.
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So if you were a single mom with a kid on a really troubled path like this kid was, that showed no remorse for the bad things he'd been doing (like shoplifting and assaulting a cop), you'd be fine with it? O_o
...When did I say I'd be fine with it? I think she needs to get some parenting skills and get control of her son and if she can't handle it she needs to get professional help. There are millions and millions of single mothers with troubled kids in this world. I'm saying, it seems pathetic to me that she feels the need to *call the cops* to get control over her son. She is responsible for her sons actions as the parent.
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This shouldn't've been the "last rope". It's a little bit too minimal of a charge for the boy to have been punished for, I think, even though he DID have a "criminal record".
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lol I was saying that sarcastically when I dissed the mom, she did well...but oddly...
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So if you were a single mom with a kid on a really troubled path like this kid was, that showed no remorse for the bad things he'd been doing (like shoplifting and assaulting a cop), you'd be fine with it? O_o
And having him arrested for opening a present early is a great message, isn't it? I can imagine all of you defending this woman calling the cops on your kids for not eating all the cereal and stuff like that. My mom raised my sister an me all by herself, she was 17 when I was born, and she married my current father when I was 18, but she raised us by example, by showing us the right and wrong, and even if around me there were some dubious characters, my mom's teachings were strong enough to keep me on the right path. So I'm sorry, but this mom is just looking for an excuse to have somebody else take charge of the kid.
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wow so there are worse parents than mine and worse kids then me. Kinda makes me wanna shoe it to my mom & say Fcuk you ma, merry xmas.
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wow so there are worse parents than mine and worse kids then me. Kinda makes me wanna shoe it to my mom & say Fcuk you ma, merry xmas.
:lol:
Bad kid and bad parenting... I just hope that kid never reproduces to continue the cycle as it seems to be getting worse with every generation >_> The sad thing is, he's probably going to get some random girl pregnant in the next couple years and probably abandon them or something. Which is probaby what happened to him...
I'm thinking that the grandmother was the one who raised the boy, while the mother tried to finish school and also worked. You can't just blame everything on the mother. She wasn't ready for this kid. And there must be plenty of factors that turned their situation this way. The mother doesn't know what to do so she calls the cops on him. Many people don't really want to seek help, because they want to believe that they could solve all their problems themselves even if what they're doing might be the wrong thing. I commend her for atleast trying something, as some parents just let their kids run around in the streets.
Anyways, I agree with shi. Somebody get Dr. Phil!!!
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Not all kids are the same, thus its difficult to say what method works for which kid. Even if the parents portrays a good example at home to the kids and warn them what is good or bad, it all boils down to the kid himself. I've seen examples of good parents with good teaching skills and still unable to control their kids.
Who's Dr Phil anyway?
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^ Haha you gotta be joking about the "who's doctor phil" thing?
If you aren't, wikipedia is your friend (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_McGraw)
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That kid needs a father.. a father with a belt.. problem solved.
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@ reyfer - Kudos to your mom for raising you on her own, but to compare your situation to the one in the article isn't exactly accurate. It can't be because the circumstances your family is/was in is hardly the same as the one that the family in the article was in, unless you and your sister shoplifted, assaulted cops, and came on the verge of getting expelled from school the way this kid was.
I think she needs to get some parenting skills and get control of her son and if she can't handle it she needs to get professional help. There are millions and millions of single mothers with troubled kids in this world. I'm saying, it seems pathetic to me that she feels the need to *call the cops* to get control over her son. She is responsible for her sons actions as the parent.
Of course she's responsible, however that doesn't mean that she has to do this all alone. There are situations and there are times where a parent can do everything within their power to be a good parent, yet the kid still refuses to listen and still acts out in a negative manner.
Good parenting helps, but unfortunately it doesn't always work. People aren't born knowing good parenting skills by instinct. It's a learning process that people have to go through. Some will be able to pull it off and some won't. Professional help (like child psychologists and family counselors) can often be beneficial, but they don't always work either. People need to stop thinking of it as a "solution" that can guarantee success. It isn't a solution. It's only an option, and options don't always work. I hate to say it, but as cynical as this sounds, there ARE kids who are/can be that bad. There ARE kids who will reject any/all types of authority, will reject any form of counseling, who refuse think of no one but themselves. For those kids, sometimes they need a big, harsh wake up call, like getting arrested, before they can begin to turn their lives around. Hell, we've seen hundreds of these types of kids go on those talk shows like Maury or Montel Williams. They go on, swear at the audience, then get "scared straight" by going to boot camp and/or visiting a real prison and talking to real inmates. Who knows? Maybe the mom should be calling Maury instead of calling the cops.
Bad kid and bad parenting... I just hope that kid never reproduces to continue the cycle as it seems to be getting worse with every generation >_>
You can't just blame everything on the mother. She wasn't ready for this kid. And there must be plenty of factors that turned their situation this way. The mother doesn't know what to do so she calls the cops on him. Many people don't really want to seek help, because they want to believe that they could solve all their problems themselves even if what they're doing might be the wrong thing. I commend her for at least trying something, as some parents just let their kids run around in the streets.
SITS says it well here. She may not have the best parenting skills in the world, but at least she's doing something.
A parent who ignores his/her kid and lets them get away with anything/everything is, without a doubt, a bad parent. However if a parent is genuinely trying, like this woman appears to have been, but is not having any success, it's hardly fair to blame them and call them a bad parent. After all, there's no book or set of instructions that state what must be done to be a good parent. Most people just muddle along as they go. Most are able to do a good job. Some, however, just have nothing but troubles; just because they do doesn't invalidate the effort they're putting forth nor does it make them bad parents, just unlucky ones.
So often society will automatically blame the parent(s), and ONLY the parent(s), thus giving the impression that the child(-ren) are at no fault at all. If a kid willlingly shoplifts and punches a police officer, it's clear that there's something up with the kid. The fact that the parent is having trouble handling/dealing with it isn't just the fault of the parent, the kid is equally at fault. There needs to be as much onus and responsibility put on the kid as there is placed on the parent. Just as the parent has to be actively involved, the kid has to be willing listen and to change his/her negative behaviour. From what we've seen in the article, this particular kid just refused to listen and doesn't want to change his behaviour. If people are going to say the mom is a bad parent, be fair and put as much blame on the kid too, because he clearly deserves it. To do the stuff that he's done, to act the way that he's been acting, without showing any remorse whatsoever...there's no way that he's the sole victim here and there's no way that it's solely the fault of his mom.
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What ? That is not a crime or an act that is againest the law!!! What rights do the police have to arrest that boy?
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What ? That is not a crime or an act that is againest the law!!! What rights do the police have to arrest that boy?
have you considered reading the previous posts?
then you will understand this story a whole lot more...