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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Foxy Brown on December 18, 2006, 09:26:44 PM
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A 13-year-old Plainfield boy and his parents are stunned and outraged after the teen found a gun in school and turned it in to authorities, who then expelled him. (http://cbs2chicago.com/local/local_story_348001946.html)
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Just what the fuck?
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Ugh, that compleatly discusts me.
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if he was gonna get expelled anyways, he should've shot someone (preferably the principal) with it then
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I guess he should have kept the piece to himself.
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not mean to be racist, but its because hes black. lets say a white student turn it in. he'll get awarded and all those media exposure shiet.
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^^ your totally right...remember after hurricane katrina? the black people were 'looting' while the white people 'found' stuff...
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"School board officials issued a statement Wednesday night saying due to confidentiality reasons they can't discuss the specifics of this case"
I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who would do something like this to a kid just because of his race, but I think it's jumping the gun (no pun intended) to apply it to this case. I'd like to hear all the facts first.
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Reminds me of the power rangers and i'll tell you why. Remember they gave the red ranger a sword, the pink ranger a bow&arrow, guess what they gave the black ranger.
(http://www.rovang.org/wg/pics/poweraxe-cannon.jpg)
XD coincidental??? You be the judge.
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^ How about Shadow the Hedgehog?
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whoa, fuck up racial action. I hope there are someone who cares.
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I don't think it's racially fuelled but yeah xD That's pretty fucked up.
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automticly assuming he was expelled because he is black shows a little about you, could have easily happened to another color.
dont cast the stone till you take your blind fold off espcially since you dont know all the details of the situation i wish people would get over the color issue already... but maybe since i have been around people of several diffrent colors i am not racist or should i say .... i am not trying to get sympathy because of whatever color i am ... you can get as far as you want in life no matter what color you are ... some have to try harder but thats because of what i have already mentioned sad yes, but what can you do? well you could not be racist and not automatticly assume that someone is being racist because of what they did but its most important that you not be racist yourself sometimes someone can be and not even realize it ... i really dont get why the color issue is a problem for people and probally never will all i can do is continue to treat everyone nice and how i want to be treated instead of treating people diffrent depending on what color they are like most people do .
but yeah thats a messed up situation
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whoa whoa whoa, im just implying that it might be because hes black.
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wow all of what i said was meaningless apparently and you learned nothing from it ...
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I posted before you freaking edited all of your freaking post and make it sound like youre god or something. Also, why are you taking what I'm saying seriously? It wasnt meant to be serious. jesus fuck, einstein.
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sorry man wasent trying to get you excited just making a point sorry if i upset you
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If you must argue with each other, do so privately.
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automticly assuming he was expelled because he is black shows a little about you, could have easily happened to another color.
dont cast the stone till you take your blind fold off espcially since you dont know all the details of the situation i wish people would get over the color issue already... but maybe since i have been around people of several diffrent colors i am not racist or should i say .... i am not trying to get sympathy because of whatever color i am ... you can get as far as you want in life no matter what color you are ... some have to try harder but thats because of what i have already mentioned sad yes, but what can you do? well you could not be racist and not automatticly assume that someone is being racist because of what they did but its most important that you not be racist yourself sometimes someone can be and not even realize it ... i really dont get why the color issue is a problem for people and probally never will all i can do is continue to treat everyone nice and how i want to be treated instead of treating people diffrent depending on what color they are like most people do .
but yeah thats a messed up situation
I'm not trying to start a debate or anything like that, but i just want to respond to your view of the situation. Because this is obviously a very touchy subject i'll try to be as sensitive as possible. Please don't take anything I say negatively because its just my opinion :) and i got love for everybody in the forum:D . Nazokage, I agree with you that nobody can really make a clear judgement because we do not have all the details of the situation. But what is clear, if you read the column, is: he found the weapon in the restroom, he turned it in, which lead to finding the original owner of the gun who was later on arrested. Who knows what would have happened had he not turned in the weapon. So the question is, "why is he getting expelled?" He should be on the news as an example and should be getting commended for the decision made. But instead they're talking about whether or not he is going to be expelled. The reason the color problem is an issue is because racism still exists; whether it's hidden between the lines, or straight foward. I mean, John_Hung made an excellent point. After hurricane Katrina, in the news, when a white person found food the media said exactly that "they found something to eat." But when an black person found something to eat the word the media used to describe it as was "looting." I'm not saying the media from hurricane Katrina, or school board in this post is necessarily racist. Im saying that perception of a situation can easily be misconstrued by the color of ones skin. Who knows what the vice principal's initial thought was when he turned in the gun but if they found the original culprit why are they thinking about expelling him? Just doesn't make sense to me.
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Expelling him sounds a little harsh, but he pocketed the weapon and gave the it to the principal after a short time? How short? Why didn't he just report of the gun to the principal?
After school shootings in American schools I understand the extreme caution in these cases.
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Expelling him sounds a little harsh, but he pocketed the weapon and gave the it to the principal after a short time? How short? Why didn't he just report of the gun to the principal?
After school shootings in American schools I understand the extreme caution in these cases.
It's "funny" that most school shootings that have media attention are predominately "white" schools... >_>
I don't know the exact details, but if he did pocket the weapon, he can be expelled for having a weapon in his possession. What he should have done is call the authorities and not physically take the weapon. For all we know he could have been a part of some plot and chickened out in the last minute
(not directed to ctz)
Race takes a big factor among many things. I grew up around almost all "minorities", and I've experienced and witnessed so much racism, hell I can be pretty racist at times. You can't say race doesn't matter anymore, cause in some cases it's almost all that matters.
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good read mix i was basicly trying to say it is sad to see tha racisum still exist... and i agree with what you said i just dont understand why i am not racist and so many others in the world are .... but i probally never will i have freinds of several diffrent colors and i treat all of them the same .
sorry if i offended anyone with my first post i tend to be direct, sometimes a little too direct.
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I'm not gonna comment on the above argument/discussion, all has been said...but I have experienced something like that
My Middle School in 7th grade was the worse school in the county...as in bad kids, trouble makers, drugs, weapons, fighting, etc. We had metal detectors and what not, but anyways, yea, there's one thing I remember clearly.
A weapon and drugs "dropbox" right outside of the Gym, it was in order for kids who 'might' have incriminating and illegal things to place them in that box so they won't inadverdently harm or make trouble in school...funny thing was, there was a camera right on it. I remember kids were stupid enough to use it, any kid caught on camera was punished lol, regardless if the illegal item was there's or not, and regardless of race.
Maybe under school or district rules, that if you possess a firearm on schoolgrounds, you get expelled. In this kids case, he possessed the weapon, although in a short time, he did. Seems like those people are more of hardasses on policy, rather than racist. Thats just how I see it...
I still think the school's decision is bullshit...if that junk was a real gun...well yea...not gonna think beyond that.
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"In this kids case, he possessed the weapon"
Possession includes physical control and a manifest intent to exclude others. I don't believe there was an intent to exclude in this case. The circumstances suggest exactly the contrary. As such, I don't believe he was ever in possession of the gun.
EDIT: Never mind. He pocketed the gun 'to keep it safe'. Guess he did possess it.
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Ugh, how retarded. Given how much race plays a factor in our society, it definitely seems like it played a part here.
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That’s mess up unless something involving the gun happened in that "short time" I don't see why they did that. And don't play the race card so quick there maybe more circumstances involved then what as in the article.