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Title: Copyright law changes could leave consumers vulnerable
Post by: Peacimowen on January 14, 2007, 05:59:56 AM
Ever recorded a television show or a movie so you can watch it later? Or ripped a CD so you can listen to it on your MP3 player?

With changes to Canada's copyright laws expected as early as next month, these mundane 21st century activities could theoretically be open to prosecution — unless the Conservative government steps in with expanded "fair use" or "fair dealing" protections for consumers. (http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/01/11/copyright-canada.html)
Title: Copyright law changes could leave consumers vulnerable
Post by: JFC on January 14, 2007, 06:02:08 AM
^ Psh. Like that's gonna stop me from taping 24 if I miss it or DL'ing music and vids.
Title: Copyright law changes could leave consumers vulnerable
Post by: ctz on January 14, 2007, 07:00:20 AM
Ripping CD's has been illegal in Finland for a long time now...
Title: Copyright law changes could leave consumers vulnerable
Post by: Since1983 on January 14, 2007, 09:36:41 AM
^ I guess the ipod and other mp3 players wont profit from that country.
I still think this law or whatever is retarded especially if you own the original, I feel its your right to do whatever to it except distributing it.
Title: Copyright law changes could leave consumers vulnerable
Post by: edhead999 on January 14, 2007, 09:47:48 AM
The funny part is, when it comes to laws of ripping or downloading illegal music/videos/etc, not many people are gonna pay attention to those laws.
Title: Copyright law changes could leave consumers vulnerable
Post by: Mugen on January 14, 2007, 10:12:52 AM
are they cracking down on illegal music/movie dling? NOOOO -.- i dl like 60gb worth of movie every month LOL
Title: Copyright law changes could leave consumers vulnerable
Post by: LaJon on January 14, 2007, 10:26:31 AM
With as many people as there are all around the world who do it, and as few of them as there are that are prosecuted, how can they expect us to take these laws seriously?
Title: Copyright law changes could leave consumers vulnerable
Post by: idiotboy on January 14, 2007, 12:22:32 PM
ripping yr own CD to yr own mp3 player is currently illegal in the UK, and always has been. a recent review of copyright law in the UK concluded - in the face of fierce opposition from artists and copyright holders - that this should be changed.

it comes down to a question of 'what occurs when you buy a piece of media (song/ game/ dvd/ etc)?' obviously yr not buying the thing itself - yr not buying the song, for example - cos part of the purchase costs are royalties to the various copyright holders: yr buying a licence to consume that media. but is it a licence to consume in the form you've purchased it (which copyright holder want, so that they can sell you CD and mp3 and ringtone versions of the same song) or is it a general licence to consume it, however you choose (which the High Court of Australia has held: you can legally chip game consles in Australia, cos the High Court ruled that having bought a game you bought the right to play it on the device of yr choice).

clearly, the Canadian gov't has been listening to the copyright holders too much - hardly surprising, given how rightwing Harper's govt is. the real question is what impact this will have on individual consumers: after all, the fact that it's a breach of copyright law to transfer yr CD collection to mp3 hasn't hurt iPod sales or the mp3 market in the slightest, nor has it stopped the growing market in USB turntables (for ripping yr vinyl to mp3).
Title: Copyright law changes could leave consumers vulnerable
Post by: aimaime on January 14, 2007, 06:48:15 PM
it's all about greed. they want to squeeze every last $$ they can get out of buyers.
Title: Copyright law changes could leave consumers vulnerable
Post by: ~Dan~ on January 14, 2007, 10:29:55 PM
In the 80's in the UK they tried to bring in a law making it illegal for people to tape stuff from the tv etc...  A bunch of people planned to make a protest.  On a set date they planned to wait outside the houses of parliament and on the basis that all the politicians would have taped a tv show sometime in their life they planned on making a citizens arrest of every mp.  Before they could do this the law was changed and a fair use clause added.  I suggest people in Canada do the same.
Title: Copyright law changes could leave consumers vulnerable
Post by: bokunosonzai on January 14, 2007, 10:59:13 PM
those greedy bastards.....well at least we have youtube(for now)
Title: Copyright law changes could leave consumers vulnerable
Post by: LovelyMermaid on January 15, 2007, 12:08:13 AM
^ yeahh...you tube will be out eventually.
Title: Copyright law changes could leave consumers vulnerable
Post by: edhead999 on January 15, 2007, 05:23:42 AM
The funny part is, through the internet, artists get fame quicker. If they were to ban this stuff, the music industry would slump... again.