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General => Akihabara => Topic started by: Foxy Brown on January 15, 2007, 05:26:03 PM

Title: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: Foxy Brown on January 15, 2007, 05:26:03 PM
Swedish file-sharing website The Pirate Bay is planning to buy its own nation in an attempt to circumvent international copyright laws.

The group has set up a campaign to raise money to buy Sealand, a former British naval platform in the North Sea that has been designated a 'micronation', and claims to be outside the jurisdiction of the UK or any other country. (http://www.thelocal.se/6076/20070112/)
Title: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: surezal on January 15, 2007, 05:43:47 PM
lol, how are they planning to get that much money ?
I mean, a campaign? I don't think that will be enough..
Title: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: Fracture on January 15, 2007, 05:49:51 PM
How stoned were they when they had this brainstorm?  £504 million seems a little unrealistic.

Anyway, it looked like they were doing okay thumbing their noses at authority from their little boat.
Title: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: Slack on January 15, 2007, 05:52:14 PM
This is such a nutty coincidence.  Some of my friends were considering buying a title from Sealand! (www.sealandgov.com (http://www.sealandgov.com))  It'd kinda suck if they became Dukes of Sealand or something, and the Pirate Bay wouldn't recognize their titles.
Title: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: chera on January 15, 2007, 07:11:30 PM
Sealand is run by a bunch of crooks.  HavenCo, the company that ran Sealand's original data haven, was "nationalized" by that so-called "Duke."  To read the true history of Sealand/HavenCo, take a look at this presentation made by one of the founders:

http://www.metacolo.com/papers/dc11-havenco/dc11-havenco.pdf
Title: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: NAzu on January 15, 2007, 08:03:24 PM
I would hardly call Sealand a island. It's just a crappy building standing on two concrete blocks and that price what they ask from it is outrageous.
Title: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: idiotboy on January 15, 2007, 09:24:43 PM
Quote from: NAzu;283821
I would hardly call Sealand a island. It's just a crappy building standing on two concrete blocks and that price what they ask from it is outrageous.

what you get for the money is extraterritoriality: yr beyond the laws of the land, as it were. which is why those crazy guys at TPB are interested.
Title: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: NAzu on January 15, 2007, 09:42:48 PM
Quote from: idiotboy;283868
what you get for the money is extraterritoriality: yr beyond the laws of the land, as it were. which is why those crazy guys at TPB are interested.

What I have heard the island belongs to England's sea terrritory and therefore it has the same laws as England. And if they were to buy it they would need other countries to acknowledge it as an independent state.
Title: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: Slack on January 15, 2007, 10:58:05 PM
Well, according to the wiki article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealand
England doesn't actually claim Sealand as being in their territory.  Sure, it's within 12 nautical miles of the English coast, but it still isn't claimed.
Title: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: chera on January 15, 2007, 11:20:42 PM
It's a fraud.  Sealand is a small 50-year offshore platform 10 kilos off the British coast; and they're letting it go for half a billion bucks!

For $10 million bucks I've built modern offshore platforms that could resist typhoon-force winds, towed them a couple hundred kilos offshore (beyond territorial and contiguous waters), and permanently anchored them into the seabed with 100 meter-long steel piles.  Did plenty of this in the Gulf of Thailand for offshore oil and gas drilling companies.

For a few hundred million bucks, I could do the same, but with a massive platform that could house dozens or hundreds of full-time staff, tow it out into international waters, and into water much much deeper.  Heck, for a bit more, I could throw in a few machine guns and a cruise missile or two to defend my status as an "independent state."
Title: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: Foxy Brown on January 15, 2007, 11:45:12 PM
Assuming these guys do get their own sovereign nation on this or some other island, do they plan on assembling a navy? If not, how long until they meet up with the other kind of pirate?
Title: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: redbox18 on January 17, 2007, 11:03:36 AM
Quote from: Foxy Brown;283987
Assuming these guys do get their own sovereign nation on this or some other island, do they plan on assembling a navy? If not, how long until they meet up with the other kind of pirate?


I guess they're gonna make piracy legal in their "country". That could work (at least until MPAA/RIAA invaded it) ;)
Title: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: doomprice22 on January 24, 2007, 03:19:52 PM
In January 2007 Pirate Bay was attempting to purchase Sealand, a man-made off-shore installation named HM Fort Roughs that claims to be an independent state, in order to circumvent international copyright laws. The island was for sale and valued at £504 million

A website has been established to raise money to buy Sealand at buysealand.com
Title: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: doomprice22 on January 24, 2007, 03:22:14 PM
WTF!!! sealand is the smallest nation!!!
Title: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: djnvee on January 26, 2007, 11:13:33 PM
Wow All this to stick it to the man. I wonder if they will succeed
Title: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: bdash on January 27, 2007, 05:46:31 PM
i just checked and they are at only 20.000 USD
definately not the high price sealand is asking for
also it turns out sealand has stopped emailing them so it seems as if the are not willing to negotiate any longer
well it was a good run!
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: Since1983 on May 20, 2007, 10:31:13 PM
Man this would be great if it happened. Imagine a pirate island lol
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: ferrar1 on May 24, 2007, 03:29:10 PM
wow these guys sure have great dreams ;D
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: xtree on May 24, 2007, 11:06:15 PM
haha, well if they succeed, congratulations to them.  Pirates will be making their mark on history once again
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: RionZ on May 24, 2007, 11:17:26 PM
There should be a documentary on this...

Rated "AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH" of course :)
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: makeme on May 27, 2007, 02:41:41 PM
Who would have thought someone would go to extremes of buying an micronation to avoid copyright laws.
Bloody legends if they manage to pull it off.
Title: Pirate Bay Operators Charged - Site Still Up and Running
Post by: Foxy Brown on February 01, 2008, 10:07:46 AM
The four operators of Pirate Bay, one of the biggest file-sharing Web sites, have been officially charged with conspiracy to break copyright law in Sweden. Despite the charges against the site operators Pirate Bay is still operating. (http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/006413.html)
Title: Re: The Pirate Bay plans to buy island
Post by: shurastriker on February 03, 2008, 09:27:42 PM
dats no island ¬¬ WTF is just a platform, i bet you can find better places (real islands) in the caribe (place for real pirates lol) imo is useless triyng to avoid the law like this... and the price is just stupid for a platform, maybe for a real island.

oh well, world is crazy anyway...

PD: weren´t the pirates from UK?