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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: trueinnuendo on February 05, 2007, 04:38:11 PM

Title: Swapped at Birth: Raised as a Muslim, now wants to renounce
Post by: trueinnuendo on February 05, 2007, 04:38:11 PM: Chinese guy swapped at birth, and raised as Muslim by Malay parents now wants to convert to Buddhism. This is a crime in Malaysia.

It's not his fault noh?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/02/05/malaysia.babyswap.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
Title: Swapped at Birth: Raised as a Muslim, now wants to renounce
Post by: StreakInTheSky on February 06, 2007, 02:57:06 AM: lol wtf...

see that's why mixing state and religion isn't really the best of ideas >_>
Title: Swapped at Birth: Raised as a Muslim, now wants to renounce
Post by: desidarko on February 13, 2007, 04:51:07 AM: yeah muslims have become the religion of fear , they fear what thers might think of them therefore they restrict themselves... although their religion speask differently they still intend to fasthold to old ways....
Title: Swapped at Birth: Raised as a Muslim, now wants to renounce
Post by: tempethegreat on February 16, 2007, 10:33:42 AM: i think this is not a crime...but malaysia is a muslim country right......thats why the peoblem is crime in malaysia......thats only my opinion........
Title: Swapped at Birth: Raised as a Muslim, now wants to renounce
Post by: huggumwuggums on February 16, 2007, 08:57:10 PM: I personally think that it's something to do with his upbringing as a Muslim. He wouldn't be leaving the religion if he really loved it.
Title: Swapped at Birth: Raised as a Muslim, now wants to renounce
Post by: ctz on February 17, 2007, 11:54:11 AM: I find the most disturbing the fact that he's just abandoning these people who raised him. Like the swap would be their fault or something. Maybe they weren't the most loving parents for him :)
Title: Swapped at Birth: Raised as a Muslim, now wants to renounce
Post by: monkeyman on February 17, 2007, 03:35:17 PM: I won't comment on the guys’ decision. That really is a personal one between he and his two families. However, about the law: back in the day Straits Chinese were at the top of the heap in colonial Malaysia. Those who had converted to Christianity would frequently force their ethnic Malay servants and employees to convert at the threat of dismissal and/or beatings, often with the co-operation of the British Colonial Government. Out of context and in the current political environment the law seems like raw Islamic fundamentalism but there is often more than one side to every story.

Edit: I should say I don't think the law is right but a lttle understanding goes a long way.
Title: Swapped at Birth: Raised as a Muslim, now wants to renounce
Post by: nox_xie on February 19, 2007, 09:23:37 AM: ^hi tempe,huggumwuggums..

huhu.. this topic can bring up fight.. it personal matter.. religion is what your own believe.. for me, i know what the best religion for me.. just keep this issue low ok.. dunt wanna see we all fight about this..

peace..
Title: Swapped at Birth: Raised as a Muslim, now wants to renounce
Post by: fsw on February 20, 2007, 08:19:16 PM: Quote from: ctz;310823
Maybe they weren't the most loving parents for him :)

I think your spot on. Perhaps he didn't have the best of childhoods but it's quite a decision to make after all he's known his "parents" some 30 years!
Title: Swapped at Birth: Raised as a Muslim, now wants to renounce
Post by: conannd on February 21, 2007, 03:29:41 AM: @desidarko
u should see the fact not only from one perspective.... there is the truth that even u don't want it...

@ctz
truee.... i agree with u.... i don't think this news should bring to the public... because it is about personal matters.... and i think the country didn't have any right to decide what should they believe.... even in a moslem country, what i knew is the people free to believe their own believe, as long as it is not bring disharmony to others..
Title: Swapped at Birth: Raised as a Muslim, now wants to renounce
Post by: quick4all on February 25, 2007, 09:10:11 AM: lol that's messed up.. =x
i still think he should be able to do it legally .. since it's not his fault that the hospital screwed up..
Title: Swapped at Birth: Raised as a Muslim, now wants to renounce
Post by: Decimal on February 25, 2007, 07:40:22 PM: Muslim countries are strict when it comes to upholding islamic law.
Many have paid the price with death penalties for what many people may think the punishment is too harsh.
Title: Swapped at Birth: Raised as a Muslim, now wants to renounce
Post by: ziggurat on February 26, 2007, 12:14:30 AM: ^ Malaysia is not a muslim country that use islamic law, so there isn't such as death penalty there. The guy will probably ending with paying some money if he loses at court.
Title: Swapped at Birth: Raised as a Muslim, now wants to renounce
Post by: jimmydotnet on February 27, 2007, 06:34:38 PM: this is serious matter so not sure this should be discussed...well my opinion is that the family of mistaken chinese guy should give proper islamic education...my fren also had this situation...but he never wants to change his religion. his faith in islam will never lost...
Title: Swapped at Birth: Raised as a Muslim, now wants to renounce
Post by: ctz on March 01, 2007, 04:57:15 AM: Quote
this is serious matter so not sure this should be discussed...

There something wrong there... IMO serious matters should always be discussed.
Title: Swapped at Birth: Raised as a Muslim, now wants to renounce
Post by: jimmydotnet on March 04, 2007, 03:41:35 PM: malaysian used to kept this matter secret...as if this could end up like 13 may
thats why malaysia still peace and harmony eventhough we live in different races and religion
btw there is also malays that were born in islam changed his religion...for example lina joy case...but she won the case...but this case was kept secret from people...the government dun want this issue to be release to public as this could stirred up the muslim community...peace!!