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Title: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on February 22, 2005, 07:04:56 PM
I can't be the only hiphop head in here  8)

Aight let's get down to business. First of all i wanna say Rest In Peace O.D.B. ODB was truely one of the greatest entertainers of our time and he will be missed. I've always been a huge fan of the Wu-Tang Clan so his death was a big shock to me.
(http://img29.exs.cx/img29/7178/wutang0bu.jpg)
 

RZA finally released Wu-Tang Manual and i all i can say is that it's definitely worth buying. GO COP THAT even if you don't like Wu-Tang. That book is filled with knowledge.

Last week some really big and hyped rap albums got leaked:
50 Cent - Massacre
Beanie Sigel - The B-Coming
Cormega - The Testament

After hearing all of them i gotta say that 50 has gotten even worse than he was on Get Rich Or Die Trying. His new album is pure garbage(like all G-Unit related releases).

Beanie Sigel's new joint is a nice suprise. He has improved a lot since his prerious album and he's definitely one of the best east coast thug rappers out there. Beans and the beats are pure fire but there's way too many guest stars.

Cormega finally dropped The Testament. The Testament was supposed to come out back in 98 but for reason some Def Jam never released it. Mega later bought the masters and the rest is history. The album is finally here and it doesn't disappoint. Beats are vintage late 90s style and Cormega is spitting some heat on the mic. RECOMMENDED
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Post by: Roska on February 22, 2005, 11:52:59 PM
Masashi, you just lost 99.999% of my respect because of this T_T

Don't tell me you are a wigger too? :C
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Post by: Sexy Beam on February 22, 2005, 11:56:43 PM
I'm not really into American rap. I mostly listen to J-Urban, though.

What happened to ODB? I didn't know he died. o_o
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Post by: delerium on February 23, 2005, 08:30:13 AM
Being originally from Detroit... i gotsta pimp out some good old D-town Ghetto-Tech like DJ Assault, DJ Godfather, Disco D, Aux88, etc.
I'm also into some more low key stuff... RJD2, The Streets, Swollen Members and the like.  Oh yeah... i almost forgot... old skool ELECTRO too.
Radio/MTV rap and hiphop bore me.
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Post by: waso dodu on March 01, 2005, 06:07:15 AM
im hip hop also
i break and sometimes i rap
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Post by: tiny on March 08, 2005, 08:46:55 PM
I like Ice Cube, Westside Connection, Xzibit, Snoop Dog (the older stuff), Dr. Dre... or anyone who can rap me a good story to a good beat.
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Post by: daigong on March 10, 2005, 08:09:10 AM
Aight...and from the headlines 50 and The Game end their "beef" http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1497921/03092005/50_cent.jhtml?headlines=true

(http://img138.exs.cx/img138/1641/r38429279887ad.jpg)

OOOHHH HARDCORE!!! (http://img200.exs.cx/img200/1870/50game9vh.gif)

Most likely Dre or Jimmy Iovine stuck a 9 up their asses.  :lol:
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Post by: Thimas X on March 15, 2005, 09:15:40 PM
Quote from: daigong
Aight...and from the headlines 50 and The Game end their "beef"


They make good music together. The west is looking better and better.
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Post by: daigong on March 16, 2005, 10:58:52 AM
Hmm...shoulda replied to this earlier...

I don't really have access to the underground shit so what I listened to was the commercial and whatever. Not that I could really find much on the radio. My buddy did give me a sampler of scratching and introduced me to "underground" acts like Jurassic 5. He supposedly knew a friend of a friend of DJ Q-Bert.

Shit I always listened to was the West Coast shit: 2Pac, N.W.A., Ice T, Snoop Dogg ... and East Coast: Public Enemy and YES. Jazzy Jeff and The Fresh Prince. They make me laugh. "Girls ain't nothng but trouble"

Favorite act of all time: Wu-Tang esp. ODB and Method Man, RZA, GZA, Ghostface, U-God. Hell they're all good MC's. I need that fuckin Wu-Tang Manual!! Nothing beats them live.

Nowadays, East Coast is wack with Jay-Z and Puffy and their weak ass rhymes polluting the airwaves. At least PE or N.W.A. made you think with their lyrics. Now the "deep" songs are so simple. Like Twister feat. Faith Evans in that Coach Carter soundtrack. And that's what Nas is. Never liked him and I don't get why the media love him so much. Thanks to Puffy and Mase, rhyming is secondary. Any fucker can just talk over a beat and call it rapping. DMX had that gruff voice, which was promising.

And no need to go old school and resample the whole shitload like Missy Elliott. Or just be old like Beastie Boys.

I'd have to go with Thimas on this one, West Coast continues to rule. Dr. Dre's producing has influenced the Aftermath label. There's actually parts where the song, pauses, changes beat. So The Game is just pimping N.W.A. at least there's some sorta of beat and rhyming going on. Rap was and is always about being witty, having bravado... (aw man...to be continued cuz these brownies are kicking in)
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Post by: daigong on March 16, 2005, 11:09:36 AM
It's all about delivery, not just the rhymes. Their voices are weak compared to Chuck D. Ice Cube. A good rapper is one who can spit it so hard that they're like drooling all over the microphone.

Even Eazy-E and Dr. Dre "100 Miles And Runnin" were eating it up. That's my measuring stick.

(YEAHHH page topper)
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Post by: Masa on March 16, 2005, 11:19:14 AM
What albums are your alltime favourites?

My list would be a lil something like this:

1. Wu-Tang Clan - Enter The Wu-Tang
2. Organized Konfusion - Stress: The Extinction Agenda
3. Nas - Illmatic
4. Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
5. Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
6. GZA - Liquid Swords
7. Wu-Tang Clan - Wu-Tang Forever
8. Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die
9. Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele
10. The Roots - Do You Want More?!!!??!
11. Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle
12. Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
13. Mobb Deep - The Infamous
14. Pharoahe Monch - Internal Affairs
15. Big Punisher - Capital Punishment
16. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Down
17. Blackstar - Blackstar
18. Jay-Z - The Blueprint
19. Blackalicious - Blazing Arrow
20. Mos Def - Black On Both Sides

East Coast got this shit on lock  :D



Quote from: daigong
It's all about delivery, not just the rhymes. Their voices are weak compared to Chuck D. Ice Cube. A good rapper is one who can spit it so hard that they're like drooling all over the microphone.

Even Eazy-E and Dr. Dre "100 Miles And Runnin" were eating it up. That's my measuring stick.

(YEAHHH page topper)

Jay-Z does have one of the best deliveries ever. He's up there with Eminem, Pharaohe Monch, Biggie and Gift Of Gab.

Eazy and Dre get no love from me, MCs should at least write their own lyrics.
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Post by: daigong on March 17, 2005, 11:56:54 AM
Quote from: Masashi
Jay-Z does have one of the best deliveries ever. He's up there with Eminem, Pharaohe Monch, Biggie and Gift Of Gab.


Jay-Z is better with his hooks. Like on Foxy Brown's "I'll Be Good" and Biggie is a 2Pac rip off.

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Eazy and Dre get no love from me, MCs should at least write their own lyrics.


And Rika and Ayaya get immunity? :lmao:

My favorite albums:

1. Wu-Tang - Enter the 36 Chambers
2. Public Enemy - Apocalypse 91...The Enemy Strikes Black
3. N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton
4. Ice Cube - The Predator
5. Dr. Dre - The Chronic
6. Ol Dirty Bastard - Return to the 36 Chambers
7. 2Pac - Me Against the World
8. Public Enemy - Yo! Bum Rush the Show
9. Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle
10. Dr. Dre - Chronic 2001
11. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
12. 2Pac - All Eyez on Me
13. Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet
14. GZA - Liquid Swords
15. Ice-T - Home Invasion
16. Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
17. Ice Cube - Death Certificate
18. Ice Cube - Lethal Injection
19. Method Man - Tical
20. Ghostface Killah - Ironman

Honorable mention:
Ice Cube - Amerikkkas Most Wanted
Kanye West - The College Dropout
Jazzy Jeff + Fresh Prince - He's the DJ, I'm the Rapper
DMX - It's Dark and Hell Is Hot
DMX - And Then There Was X
2Pac - Makaveli 7 Day Theory
Wu-Tang Clan - Ironflag
Wu-Tang Clan - Wu-Tang Forever
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Post by: daigong on March 18, 2005, 08:47:48 PM
HA HA!! Dumb bitch is going to jail for sure!!

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Post by: Hamasaki_Yoshizawa on March 22, 2005, 05:54:54 AM
I like Eminem's raps... :P :)
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Post by: BakHamNoi on March 22, 2005, 06:34:39 AM
Best rap groupe = SALT5- Get Up! Rapper  :P
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Post by: daigong on March 22, 2005, 12:11:08 PM
Quote from: ~Tettekete~
Best rap groupe = SALT5- Get Up! Rapper  :P


Nacchi and Aibon make cute rappers.

Shit...this is the first time I listened to Encore. "Ass Like That" has gotta to be the most disappointing song ever.
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Post by: shinichi on March 25, 2005, 07:05:47 AM
I don't listen to rap that much, but I listen to a lot of freestyles. I listen to Slug, Sage Francis, Eyedea, Blueprint, Brother Ali etc etc.

By the way, does anyone know a site where I can download freestyle battles? EmceeBattles.com and Mic-Wars.com have been down for some time.
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Post by: Masa on March 25, 2005, 07:35:52 AM
Quote from: shinichi
I don't listen to rap that much, but I listen to a lot of freestyles. I listen to Slug, Sage Francis, Eyedea, Blueprint, Brother Ali etc etc..

Brother Ali is the man!
I love his Champion Ep and Shadows On The Sun album.
If you haven't heard them you should definitely check them out if you have a chance.
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Post by: BakHamNoi on March 25, 2005, 08:56:43 AM
Yeah i like freestyle battle !  :w00t:  
On Bet channel no ?
I like the chinese rapper Jin , he is in Ruff Rider now, no ?
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Post by: daigong on March 25, 2005, 09:41:19 AM
Quote from: ~Tettekete~
I like the chinese rapper Jin , he is in Ruff Rider now, no ?


NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! He is corny. He is wack. (oh yes he is Chinese :P)


YAY!! I finally copped The Wu-Tang Manual! (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1594480184/qid=1111739868/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/002-4112061-1091214)

(http://img10.exs.cx/img10/6074/1594480184019tz.jpg)

A little thin. The pictures kinda suck...but ALL THE PHILOSOPHICAL SHIT you need about The Wu.
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Post by: shinichi on March 26, 2005, 02:04:14 AM
Quote from: Masashi
I love his Champion Ep and Shadows On The Sun album.
If you haven't heard them you should definitely check them out if you have a chance.

Oh yea, those are good shit. I'm listening to Room With a View as I type.

Quote from: ~Tettekete~
Yeah i like freestyle battle ! On Bet channel no ?
I like the chinese rapper Jin

Nah, the BET battles are weak compared to the street battles. I heard Jin is pretty good at freestyling, but I got a very bad first impression of him. The first battle I saw him at was against Sage Francis, and Jin got his ass worked, to say the least. Granted, Sage Francis is one of the best freestylers out there, but still... Jin got rockt.
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Post by: daigong on April 02, 2005, 12:53:44 PM
New ODB!!

(http://img240.exs.cx/img240/517/odb60x601oq.jpg)

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Ol’ Dirty Serves Up “Coochie”!

Dirt McGirt is up to his old mischief again! This time, the late, great ODB is teamed up with the loudest mouth outta the ATL, Ludacris, for a love song of sorts that only the mad genius of Russell Jones could possibly come up with. Check out “Coochie” right here on defjam.com!


Go down to "New Audio"
http://www6.defjam.com/site/home.php
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Post by: daigong on April 10, 2005, 08:52:50 AM
Yo...the new Common is aight. Just listening to it now...a bit too laid back. I did like the Chi-City track but most of it was like lounge music sampling.

You like Talib Kweli? another Kanye West buddy. His new disc is kinda the same.
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Post by: Masa on April 10, 2005, 09:02:45 AM
BE = Album of the year, i can't see any album topping it unless that MF Doom/Ghostface collabo comes out this year.
Talib and his buddy Mos Def are both great but their latest releases were really average. Kweli dropped the worst album of his career and Mos was on some rock shit. You should peep Kweli's Beautiful Mixtape Vol.2 featuring Luda, Ghost, Mos Def, Saigon, Jean Grae etc. It fucking murders the album.

BRING BACK BLACKSTAR!
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Post by: daigong on April 10, 2005, 09:34:21 AM
Hmm...looks like Mos Def has been spending too much time acting. I only copped Talib's 2002 release. It was aight ... but his flow is weak.

Though, sue me for being commercial but The Game's shit has me head nodding. And he was in my town last week and the security was tight to prevent wannabe gangstas from acting up. haha. I'm just wondering what the hell was sampled on his new single with 50. Can't help it fool. The hook is stuck in my head. Hate it or love it the underdog's on top And
I'm gonna shine homie until my heart stop I'm raps MVP And I ain't goin' nowhere so you can get to know me  
:lol:
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Post by: rave on April 10, 2005, 09:52:01 AM
hey im new here..i like rap btw
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Post by: Masa on April 10, 2005, 10:10:00 AM
ODB's Most Outrageous Moments:
(http://img230.exs.cx/img230/3061/bscap0623rc.jpg)
(http://img230.exs.cx/img230/376/bscap0636au.jpg)
http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3MUNYNOTBLYHG1RK2XJEUFSZZF

Rest In Peace Ol' Dirty!

Quote from: rave
hey im new here..i like rap btw

Who are your fav rappers?
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Post by: daigong on April 11, 2005, 11:36:37 PM
Quote from: Masa
ODB's Most Outrageous Moments:

Rest In Peace Ol' Dirty!


That was great man!! I heard about the whole "Limo and Food Stamps" shit but never knew it was a stunt to prove how stupid the welfare people are. To take the cover of his "Return to the 36 Chambers" debut CD

(http://img64.echo.cx/img64/9241/b000002hfu013yk.jpg)

and cash it in for food stamps!! "Why would you want to get free money?"  :lol: The System is fucked up and it shows. ODB was more than just a crazy guy on drugs and in trouble with the law. He paved the way for the charismatic characters like Mystikal and Lil Jon to do there thing just like Flavor Flav and Busta Rhymes did before them. Ain't no one ever gonna see the likes of him again...hopefully the Wu can fill the gaps with more raw audio. There's prolly shitloads of tapes lying around.

Did you watch MTV Trippin last week? Redman was in Bhuatan at the time and raised a flag in honor of Dirt Dawg:

http://rapidshare.de/files/1227429/redman_odb_trippin.mpg.html

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REDMAN REMEMBERS ODB IN REMOTE BHUTAN  
 
 
Rapper REDMAN paid a lasting tribute to former WU TANG CLAN bandmate OL' DIRTY BASTARD while filming a TV travel show with CAMERON DIAZ in Bhutan by erecting a prayer flag in his honour.

Redman, real name REGGIE NOBLE, was shooting MTV's TRIPPIN' with Diaz, BLINK-182's MARK HOPPUS and actress EVA MENDES in Buddhist Bhutan last November (04) when he heard about ODB's death.

And, upon learning that locals erected flags to mark the passing of family members, he decided to remember his friend in the same way in a village at the top of a mountain.

In the footage, which aired in America on Monday (04APR05), Redman explains, "We hung this flag up in the memory of ODB. I can't be at the memorial service or the wake.

"I'm way out here right now but I'm still keeping him in spirit, so we hung this flag up in memory of ODB in the highest place on the highest mountain. May his spirit last forever."

Diaz, who fronts the MTV show admits she admired her pal's professionalism when he was obviously upset about his pal's death: "He decided to stick it out the best he could."

06/04/2005 03:14  
 




And to all you fanatic wu-heads out there, the places you need to be right now are:

1) RIPODB.tk (http://ripodb.tk/)!

2) Chambermusik.com  (http://chambermusik.com/)- THE Wu-Tang Radio & community, a great group of people including many of the wu family themselves - ALL wu-tang related news will be posted here first so REGISTER NOW!

3) Methical.com  (http://methical.com/)- An unofficial Method Man forums and web-site with a thriving community

4) Wutangcorp.com - Once one of the biggest forums on the net, keep
this page bookmarked for updates and the next version, overlooked by the RZA! (down??)
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Post by: daigong on April 12, 2005, 12:36:41 AM
And I completely forgot to post this but it's been 10 YEARS (on March 26) since we lost Eazy-E

(http://img232.echo.cx/img232/5098/eazyeeazyduzitfront7ze.jpg)

His boy's like getting in the game too. Lil E with guest apperances by Cube and shit.

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Q: Lil E would you like to tell us about yourself and where you grew up

A: Compton CA, same house my father grew up in, born and raised right there the same hood.

Q: What happened to your football career:

A: Before my last season in high school, I fucked up my ankle up again, I then got back into trouble in the streets, so I played it out my 12th grade year. but it wasnt for me school wasnt for me. It was too much, so then music fell in the hands.

Q: So recording is what your doing right know

A: Yeah exactly, yup

Q: While growing up who were your influences

A: My father and Ice Cube, that what I grew up to

Q: When people first heard of you, you were on Julio Gs old show and you said that you were going to put out CD. And after that it seemed that you were affiliated with DPG. Are you still cool with Daz

A: That right there was promotional as Daz helping put that out, but there were no ties with DPG. It was a record label from the start called Lil E Recordz. But I am doing my own thing which is Kings Of LA Entertainment, my own production company through Virgin Records. So hell nah, that all behind me behind me right know. But it wasnt with DPG though

Q: Tell us about your recording deal:

A: Shit networking, so I bumped heads with my n**** Pete Farmer, who me and him put the production company Kings Of LA together and then we networked through there and then got of the ground and I signed and know hes going to get shit crackin, coming out next year

Q: Is the deal with Virgin what you were looking for:

A: Hell yeah, I got my own production company and I am doing my thing. Yeah it was a big motha fukkin deal

Q: Were there other labels bidding for you

A: Yeah there was, but you know its like I wanted to be my own and do my own thing and thats why I'm ?compilizing? my n**** Pete, so that how we doing it

Q: Tell us what we can expect as far a producers and guest appearances on your debut CD

A: As far as producing I have my own camp. I got a hot ass young producers that is on Kings of LA with me my n**** DL. And as far as features features, you know I am going to put it together NWA record, I got Bone-Thugs N Harmony, and basically this first album though is going to be kind slim on guest appearances . I am going to show them how I do it though. The NWA record and Bone records is a tribute towards my pops you know what I'm sayin but thats how I am holding it down, and other than that its me.


Q: Many people were saying that you were going to sign with Ruthless, what happend

A: You know its personal reason why I didnt sign with Ruthless. But mainly because I wanted to be my own man, you know what I'm sayin, so I branched off and did my own thing. Aint no bad ties or nothing my stepmother owns Ruthless, I dont know much at whats going on through there, I keep to myself and I have Kings of LA that I got to worry about

Q: Will you have any tracks with you late great father Eazy-E on your debut CD

A: Yeah, we have a nice one for everybody

Q: Is it the rumored Boyz in the Hood track

A: Not exactly, its a surprise. I cant give to much out. But its going to hit you all

Q: Have you spoken to Suge Knight, cause I know you had a track where you dissed him

A: Yeah he met with my folks, and we chopped it up here and there. So not to much to say and yeah and that was an old track and while ago.

Q: D o you yourself as the person who will revive the west coast. As the new leader of the westcoast:

A: Exactly, yeah.

Q:I know you did a song with The Game,"My Confessions", are you planning on recording with The Game again

A: We got a few things in plan to come together.

Q: D o you plan on putting out any mixtapes

A: We got a Kings of LA mixtape with my camp, and yeah I'm going to bless it on that mix tape, not to much, not to much, but I am going to give them another little taste of what I got.

Q: When can we expect the mixtape and will it be available online

A: Probably in the next month or so, probably sooner than that, and it will be available online.

Q: Have you spoken with DJ Yella, Dirty Red, Dresta.

A: Yeah I got good connection with them good relationship with them, exactly. They call and check in and show there love and support, yeah.

Q: D o you write your own lyrics

A: Yeah I do, yes I do

Q: D o you consider yourself and gangsta rapper or lyricist or will you combine them both

A: Yeah you can combine it, but more or so a gangsta rap level. But you can combine both of them, yeah

Q: What do you think of the lack of respect and coverage of westcoast acts

A: Yeah thats another point and issue I am going to put out through my album. And its something I to much dont like. Because you know what I'm saying, everybody got that copy cat trend in gangsta rap and the first thing they say is fuck the police, and not knowing where it really came from, so much luck it should be showing back on this side.

Q: What is going to be the name of your debut CD:

A:"2Eazy"

Q: Will it be a two disc

A: One disc, but I am going to bless it like a muthafukka

Q: Will you be working with Dr. Dre

A: Our ties have crossed here and there, and there will be a few projects we link up on.

Q: So there will be a NWA you will be working on

A: Nah, it a track on the album on my album. The whole NWA group is doing a track

Q: Back in the days these hip hop CDs that came out were classics. There was no need for the skip button. Will your CD be a classic

A: I am going to tell this its a classic my n**** , its a whole movement, its like a movie so aint going to be no skipping what so ever you not going to want to skip though it. So it has a whole movement to it cause I coming rapping it up with a movie with it too, later down the line. Everything everybody wants to know about Eazy, you know coming through my mouth, his son

Q: We can expect the movie later on in 2005

A: Yeah, exactly

Q: Any last words

A: Its time for a whole new movement in the westcoast. Its Eazy time


And I dunno about The Game having beefs with everyone  just to make a name for himself. Why don't beef with Outkast or Twista? Aren't you just shooting yourself in the foot if you attack  fellow Aftermath artists?

Why attack Xzibit? The Game has been quoted as calling Xzibit "garbage" and some reports suggested that Game actually stated that he hated Xzibit despite never meeting the Pimp My Ride MTV Star.

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In a recent interview with Justin Russo, Xzibit spoke on the Games comments and what his thought process was. He told Raptism.Com and XzibitCentral.Com this:

"I think that the Game is a young dude that is definitely coming into a serious game and its hard to say man, I don’t think the dude really understands the ramifications of really talking out of turn you know? I mean I don’t come from speaking on other things, I come from just actions and I don’t know I mean if he has a problem with me im not hard to find. I think that hip hop is going to the degree of the “WWE” and when people feel as though they need to feel personified by their image and what not".

X went on to say, "I'm a real dude, im a father first and I don’t think he understands that when you are dealing from a level of realness that all that shit don’t matter, its like everybody’s shooting and everybody can be touched. I just hope that where he's coming from is from a genuine place and if he really has those genuine feelings towards me, he needs to come speak and address that cause im not hard to find"


and then he goes on tour with Snoop - saying they're trying to bring unity to The West Coast:

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Snoop Dogg greeted the media Wednesday with his signature "Westsiiide" shout-out, but never before was it so appropriate. Snoop was joined by the Game for a press conference to promote their upcoming How the West Was One Tour, which the rappers described as a major step toward unity in West Coast hip-hop.

"I hate to bring the whole gang thing into play, but him being from Long Beach and being a Crip and me being from Compton and being a Blood just sets a whole new future," Game explained. "This is so much more bigger than a poster with our faces on it. This provides for a new unified and diverse West Coast community as a whole."

Unity, Snoop said, is the key to Southern California returning to the center of the hip-hop universe, where it was when Tupac and Dr. Dre were at their most prominent and he was just getting started.

"We're gonna go out and represent the West Coast and do a show that can bring back the West Coast," Snoop said of the tour, which kicks off April 15 in Salt Lake City. "It's about time, right?"

Snoop and Game toured Europe together last month, and they promised the North American version will be bigger and better.

"We've both grown as entertainers," Snoop said. "We learned from each other. He was doing things onstage that was dazzling me. We know we gotta represent a little harder 'cause this is the home front and you gotta take care of your living room before you go outside."

"It ain't no funny business, no flying midgets or funny lights," Game added. "Just me and Dogg and real hip-hop."

Game said he'll be joining Snoop during his set — that is, when he's not watching in adoration. "I've been a fan of Snoop Dogg's since I had a lunch pail," he said. "Now my knees are shaking 'cause he's the king of the West. But I don't mind being the prince.

"I get a little nervous [being his opening act], but at the end of the day, I'm gonna put on a great show 'cause I know all the pressure's on him," Game continued. "I'm just loosening the screws, he's gotta tear the roof off. And when I'm done I don't leave, I walk around the fence and sit out there and watch, 'cause I'm a fan of hip-hop and I'm a fan of this man. I've studied him and he's helped mentor me."

The respect is apparently mutual. "I call Game the choice of a new generation, he's like Pepsi," joked Snoop, who met Game years ago through DJ Pooh. "The opportunity I was given through Death Row and Dr. Dre is the same opportunity that Game is getting. We always say we want the young generation to have it, but you have to open up your arms when they come in the game. I was giving him love before he was signed. He always was real with the game, which is way the game is real with him now."

Wednesday's press conference was held on the set of Snoop's next video, a medley of "Ups & Downs" and "Bang Out." Game and his Black Wall Street crew will co-star.

"I wanted to have Game be a part of it because we're so down with each other, but visually you're not seeing it," Snoop said. "I want everybody to understand that we're not just going on tour together for the money, this is a real love thing — we really care for each other."

Snoop also used the press conference to show off his new Doggy Biscuitz shoe line with Pony, taking a shoe off his foot and putting it in front of the cameras. "I just had to put a shoe out to represent this West Coast culture, this lifestyle that we stand for, 'cause there's no one doing that," he said.

Game said he's working on a sneaker of his own with Reebok that'll come out early next year in conjunction with his second album.

It's still unclear whether Game's truce with 50 Cent means the rappers will work together again, as Game avoided questions about the topic Wednesday.

"At the end of the day, that's just a dead issue, and I just want to move on to the How the West Was One Tour," he said. When asked if he's spoken to 50 since their press conference, he said, "Next question."


SOURCE: http://www.raptism.com

Snoop's maaaad wicked live though. I like that uncle weed guy he brings up on stage :thumbsup

And if you want beef, then bring the ruckus Wu-Tang Clan ain't
nuttin ta fuck wit!
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Post by: daigong on April 25, 2005, 01:09:56 AM
The RZA on Nightline!!  :w00t:

http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=13EFDELXS08F309DHOJ6YB0LHW

Beefs = Wrestling. So true. The guy is a fuckin genius, I'd like to pick his brain on all facets of hip hop and life.

Props to Masa for the upload. ALL WU-HEADS NEED TO DL!
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Post by: Thimas X on April 25, 2005, 03:00:40 AM
Quote from: Son Goku
Y'all don't know about Mike Jones (http://webpages.charter.net/dolemite/dontknow.mp3)...

Texas is the home of playas and pimps. 8)

Yeah, Thimas.


YEA MAN. MIKE JONES AND Swisha House! That song isn't bad.



Last week this local group from dallas, specifically Irving (Crooked I) :lol:   came to my school and sang some songs. At the time I had no idea who they were, but all the Latinos girls were all over the place. Their songs weren't too bad but their speaker were horrible.

http://www.playandskillz.com/
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Post by: delerium on May 01, 2005, 06:54:50 AM
WTF... MC CHRIS IS ON TOUR??? LINK (http://www.mcchris.com)

For those that don't know... MC Chris is a regular on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim.  He voices Hesh on Sealab 2021 and has voiced Meatwad's favorite musician MC Pee-Pants on Aqua Teen Hunger Force.

Go to the website and download (for free) his first "album".  Fett's Vette is a freaking classic.

Gotta try and get tix for tomorrow's Philly show.
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Post by: Gimme Dem Junks on May 01, 2005, 06:56:26 AM
Quote from: delerium
WTF... MC CHRIS IS ON TOUR??? LINK (http://www.mcchris.com)

For those that don't know... MC Chris is a regular on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim.  He voices Hesh on Sealab 2021 and has voiced Meatwad's favorite musician MC Pee-Pants on Aqua Teen Hunger Force.

Go to the website and download (for free) his first "album".  Fett's Vette is a freaking classic.

Gotta try and get tix for tomorrow's Philly show.


I totally went to his concert in DC last night.

If you can go to the concert in Philly, you definitely try.  It was a lot of fun.   :D
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Post by: joey-longnails on May 17, 2005, 08:16:00 PM
im a old school cat 100% hip hop and i see how shitty the music is now..its like grand theft auto..everybody know that if they wanna sell thit, they better do the same thing that made the next cat a millionare.. ill stick with underground cat..heiro, freestyle felloship, nas srakim, (glad he got off aftermath) the game got potential..if he gets away from from 50s fake ass and lets dre teach him he can stand on his ..50 will make more albums and his sells will get lower and lower, until he has to start a big and pac style beef with somebody just to sell rcords..to me record sells aint shit...a bently may be a nice car to roll in, but so is a vw beetle...RAP IS WHAT YOU DO..HIP HOP IS WHAT YOU ARE YOU ARE
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Post by: Masa on May 18, 2005, 03:47:45 PM
92: So Rza....how was it doing the Music score for Unleashed.....

Rza: actually...Unleashed been out for a while over in Europe, but the feedback in the US was minimal, they bought me in, and had me watch the entire movie, give my take, and then do the score.

92Q: did u like the movie?

Rza: yes...a lot, but a few changes were needed

92Q: so do you ever get corrected when doing a score...or do they trust your judgement?

Rza, yea, all the time...like when i did Kill Bill.....Quentin was like "I want Rza...not Bobby Digital" (Laughs)

92: whats up with the Clan right now...any Clan albums in the works?

Rza: yes.....we going to do it big time this go round...we very serious...Pretty Tony is in the studio laying tracks for his next solo joint....for Raes Cuban Linx pt2, and for the next Wu Joint......Meth been in the studio for 2 months, and all he has is 3 songs.....just 3 songs...thats how serious and particular we are about our present music.....I told Meth...imma take you back to the top...i promise....Meth was like the first "Street" rapper to win a grammy.

92: So is all the fam going to be on this one?

Rza: yes.....like Wu Forever......like when i did triumph....Radio and Video stations was telling me it was to long...i had to edit it....i told them...take it as is...or they wont get nothing, feel me?....next thing you know...we did the impossible....we got a 6 minute song on the radio...6 minutes man...thats serious..its unheard of..a 6 minute video, we taking it back to that.

92: So, do you think Wu Tang reinvented hipop?

Rza We reinvented the way hip hop was structured, and what i mean is....you have a group signed to a lable (Loud), yet the infrastructure of our deal was like anyone elses...we still could negotiate with any lable we wanted, like Meth went with Def Jam, Rae stayed with Loud....Ghost went with Sony...Gza went with Geffen...feel me?....and all these lables still put "Razor Sharp Records" on the credits....Wu Tang was a financial Movement

92: Wu Tang Financial, huh? (Laughs)

Rza: so what do u wanna diversify?..your assets? (Laughs)

92: so what else Rza been doing?

Rza: well, im now listed as the first producer/Composer in the game....so now you can put Composer on my resume'...I remember droping 20/30/40/50k to go to Cali to just hang out with people like Stanley Clark, Quincey JOnes....to attend there functions....now im apart of those functions....people was telling me i was stupid for spending money to be around megastars...but what i was doing was investing money into myself...and thats what we as blacks need to start doing...invest in yourself. They always tell us to invest in black, invest into your community, but first we have to invest in self....believe and then "Unleash" yourself (Laughs)

92: Who do u respect in the game right now producer wise?

Rza: Well, i rap to a lot of them, like Quik, Dre, Premo, Kanye & Just Blaze of course, Alchemist, my lil man Havok doing his thing. its so many, but I use my own style which i think is the best.

92: so you think you are the best?

Rza: of course, and thats not putting anyone else down, but if you dont belive in yourself, you are already defeated, again, not to put anyother Producer down, but im the only one who is also a "Composer"...cant none of them say that.....They doing a show on BET on Black composers, they will list all the names....Quincy Jones...who showed me a lot, Stanley Clark whos the most underated musician in the world...my name.....no other producer, but i encourage all producers to spread your wings and dabble into other things besides Tracks.

92: I feel that...so what about Rappers...Lyrically?

Rza My man Nas of course, Jay Z be putting it down...um...um....Mos Def, Common, Talib, aof course the Gza...who i think is the best of them all lyrically, not cause he's my cousin, not cause he taught me how to breath over beats, not cause he's Wu Tang.....but if you were to never heard Liquid Swords ten years ago...and drop it right now, with not one word changed...you'd be amazed right now, and thats 10 years old what he was saying. And im not taking anything away from Illmatic or Reasonable Doubt or Ready to Die....but i guess you would say im biased

92: so what should we look for outta the Clan in the up and coming months?

Rza...I have a Book....very powerful....solos by Meth, Rae, Ghost and Master Killer and a Wu Album, we about to change the face of hip hop again

 :w00t:  :w00t:  :w00t:
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Post by: MochaNutz on May 19, 2005, 04:36:09 AM
Quote
92: so what should we look for outta the Clan in the up and coming months?

Rza...I have a Book....very powerful....solos by Meth, Rae, Ghost and Master Killer and a Wu Album, we about to change the face of hip hop again


I wonder when the Cure is gonna drop.  But a WU ALBUM is in the works!
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Post by: daigong on May 19, 2005, 08:29:24 AM
WORD. The only stuff I listen to is pre-1995, just pull out the N.W.A., PE, and Wu-Tang Clan...you bitch Luda, The RZA has been hanging with Q waaay before you:

(http://img287.echo.cx/img287/7987/poop027hr.jpg)

And can't wait for RZA to get Meth back on track too:

 http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1501767/20050512/rza.jhtml?headlines=true

Anyone hear RZA's track on the new Jet Li movie "Unleashed" ?? The latest EW has an article about The RZA, I'll scan it soon.
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Post by: daigong on May 20, 2005, 07:23:19 AM
^^ WOOT thanks MochaNutz, I was looking for that! Here's the article from this week's Entertainment Weekly:

(http://img281.echo.cx/img281/6062/rza00015yd.th.jpg) (http://img281.echo.cx/my.php?image=rza00015yd.jpg)(http://img281.echo.cx/img281/410/rza00027dm.th.jpg) (http://img281.echo.cx/my.php?image=rza00027dm.jpg)(http://img281.echo.cx/img281/8938/rza00034on.th.jpg) (http://img281.echo.cx/my.php?image=rza00034on.jpg)
(http://img281.echo.cx/img281/6926/rza00047mr.th.jpg) (http://img281.echo.cx/my.php?image=rza00047mr.jpg)(http://img281.echo.cx/img281/4995/rza00056zk.th.jpg) (http://img281.echo.cx/my.php?image=rza00056zk.jpg)(http://img281.echo.cx/img281/3471/rza00063ji.th.jpg) (http://img281.echo.cx/my.php?image=rza00063ji.jpg)

RZA talks about his reinventing himself and how he blames himself for ODB's death.  :cry:
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Post by: daigong on May 24, 2005, 09:21:14 AM
Whaddya know, it's "Hip-Hop Awareness Week" ... well, I'm aware

Jin Calls it QUITS!

http://www.sohh.com/thewire/read.php?contentID=7106

GOOD RIDDANCE!!
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Post by: MochaNutz on May 30, 2005, 02:32:37 AM
I guess we can officially talk about the Com - Be album since it came out last week.

So far, it seems the same as the leaked web-rip except now on the "They Say" track Consequence's verse is replaced with a Kanye Verse.  I think they shoulda kept Consequence.  But besides that, Common - Be is a VERY strong candidate for Album of the Year.  11 tracks of pure quality, no bullshit interludes, and you can listen to it straight through (something I rarely do with albums).  I think it captured the soulful vibe it wanted to achieve.

Hmm, what else... Oh, The John Cena album isn't too bad!  I was surprised that it would sound as good as it does.  Some decent productions and some great guests (7L & Esoteric, Freddy Foxx), and the lyrics/delivery aren't to bad on Cena's end.  I'm not really feelin' The Trademarc, but its still all good.  I recommend a listen if you haven't already.

The album i'm bumpin' is Emanon - The Waiting Room yet again.  THe're gonna perform here in Toronto during the North By NorthEast Festival June 9-11.  Its a showcase of all the new up and coming artists, mostly canadian talent.

Same with the Zion I - True and Livin' album.  DOPE.

Got the B.E.P. album.  The "Like That" track is dope.  Seeing how their last album went, I didn't expect a track with Cee-Lo, John Legend, Q-Tip and Kweli on it.  Apl is also doing his thing with the Bebot song.  Yay Filipinos! ^_^  I need to brush up on my tagalog =)

Anyways, w3rd, a lot of quality music here and there =)  I'm currently gettin' the MF DOOM special herbs 9-10.  I'm waiting to hear that.  Can't wait for that Doom Ghost collabo.
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Post by: daigong on June 07, 2005, 09:22:36 AM
I copped the leak. it was alright, Kanye did better work on his OWN shit. I got Diamonds on a loop.

John Cena?? Whoa, that's what Masa was telling me and I thought he was drunk.

I heard about MF DOOM. might wanna check that out. When's that collabo coming out?

found this Shoutcast station that plays underground and old school: Smoothbeats.com http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/1012
(now that I found streamripper, I can abuse this shit without any worries)

nuff MM. time to catch up with my Rap knowledge. :D
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Post by: daigong on July 22, 2005, 07:06:05 AM
Unique Ason will be dropping his post-humoous album "A Son Unique" Aug 09, 2005

(http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/4673/5967683kv.jpg)

PRE-ORDER NOW!! :w00t:

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6848281&style=music&frm=lk_boombox
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Post by: daigong on July 23, 2005, 09:51:16 PM
THANKS for the MTV Raps and previews dude :thumbsup

Dirt Dawg's Words of Wisdom are classics. He will be missed. Next to HAPPY! ... gotta be pimping his new disc!  :D

Yeah...what up Dash. I bet the Wu-Tang guest joints are better, at least RZA has his paws all over it.
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Post by: Masa on July 27, 2005, 12:39:49 PM
Danger Doom has leaked and it's pure fire  :)
More shit about Danger Doom coming soon.

BREAKING NEWS!

BABYGRANDE RECORDS FORMS JOINT VENTURE WITH DREDDY KRUGER & THINK DIFFERENTLY MUSIC GROUP

"Babygrande Records is pleased to announce it has formed a joint venture with Dreddy Krugers Think Differently Music Group.

Three projects are planned for immediate release. The first which will be in stores October 18, Think Differently Music: Wu-Tang Meets the Indie Culture is an unprecedented pairing of Wu-Tang artists, producers and affiliates with some of independent hip-hops east and west coast elite. RZA, MF Doom, GZA, Rass Kass, Aesop Rock, Masta Killa, Del the Funky Homosapien, Sean Price, J Live, Tragedy Khadafi, C Rayz Walz, RA the Rugged Man, Littles, Cannibal Ox, Sunz of Man, Royal Fam and many more artists, producers and even award winning filmmaker Jim Jarmusch have come together for what will be a historic moment in hip-hop.

The first single, Biochemical Equation featuring The RZA and MF Doom will premiere on ITUNES next month.

The next two projects will be (i) a solo album from Wu-Tang affiliate producer Bronze Nazareth who recently produced tracks for RZA, GZA, Masta Killa, Immortal Technique and Black Market Militia and (ii) a solo album from long time Wu-Tang affiliate LA the Darkman/Embassy Entertainment.

'I learned how to make albums...the whole process of putting a record together directly from The RZA and Schott Free (Loud Records). It feels good to finally have my own situation to bring my conceptual thinking to hip-hop and I look forward to working with Babygrande to make it happen, says Kruger.

Think Differently Musics CEO and Founder Dreddy Kruger began his career as an artist signed to RZAs label Wu-Tang Records. Recently he A&Rd the debut albums for Masta Killa and Black Market Militia which led to the formation of Think Differently Music Group and the A&Ring of its first release, Think Differently: Wu-Tang Meets the Indie Culture."

OMG HELL FUCKING YES! Wu-Tang Meets the Indie Culture will be the illest compilation album ever. Look at that line up: RZA, MF Doom, GZA, Rass Kass, Aesop Rock, Masta Killa, Del the Funky Homosapien, Sean Price, J Live, Tragedy Khadafi, C Rayz Walz, RA the Rugged Man, Littles, Cannibal Ox, Sunz of Man, Royal Fam.
Fuck, if that ain't the illest line up ever, I dunno what is  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

And finally a Bronze Nazareth solo album. I've been anticipating it for years  :w00t:
Bronze Nazareth = the future of WU
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Post by: daigong on July 28, 2005, 09:14:14 AM
Post Danger Mouse dude!! Stop leaving us hanging!

Wu-Tang and the Indie Scene, that's where it's at...nuff of this wack Ludacris collabos. Meth better get his ass in here too. Bronze Nazareth could show him a thing or two.  :w00t:
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Post by: StreakInTheSky on July 28, 2005, 09:37:33 AM
Well I hate rap. But I love hip hop. I like the underground shit. Fuck Dre., Fuck 50, fuck Ludacris, fuck all those fuckers who play pussy as shit just so they could be rich.
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Post by: daigong on August 10, 2005, 07:23:12 AM
:evil:  :evil:  :evil: went to the local record store and they said ODB's A Son Unique has been DELAYED!!!

to something like next week? or the 20th?? FUCK!
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Post by: Masa on August 14, 2005, 08:00:49 PM
Some mad interesting news:

Kweli signs label deal with Warner Music Group.
(jacked from sohh.com)
Word is Talib Kweli ended his relationship with Geffen Records. During a recent episode of "Rap City," the BK emcee revealed that he had inked a label deal for his Blacksmith Records. He added that he intended to sign underground standouts MF Doom and Jean Grae and that he hoped to sign Rakim to his roster. A source at Warner Music Group confirmed to SOHH.com that Kweli had a deal with the company. However, the source said the labels' artists had yet to be confirmed.

DJ Muggs vs. GZA
(credit to Wu-Tang Corp)
(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/674/thgrandmasters9pa.jpg)
Release date: October 25th
Featuring: Rza, Raekwon, Masta Killa, Street Life, Meth', Ghostface, P Sunn, Sen Dog (Cypress Hill).

DJ MUGGS SET TO RELEASE “DJ MUGGS VS GZA: GRANDMASTERS”
Cypress Hill founding member and architect DJ Muggs is releasing his latest effort, DJ Muggs vs. GZA: Grandmasters, this October on Angeles Records, an imprint on Fontana Distribution. The stunning collection contains 11-tracks of Muggs’ neck-snapping beats with the Wu Tang’s GZA on the mic.

“We’ve talked about collaborating since we worked together on the first Soul Assassins records back in 1997,” remarks GZA. “And we’re both Grandmasters at what we do,” he says, referring to the album’s title and term for a chess Virtuoso (Incidentally, chess is a game GZA thinks should be part of the school curriculum in America).

Most know GZA as perhaps the most lyrically gifted of the Wu Tang Clan--he’s released numerous acclaimed projects in his own right. His solo album, Liquid Swords, has been hailed as a hip-hop classic, and his subsequent work has been lauded as among the most seminal of Wu-Tang’s solo projects.

Never one to keep his talents in check, GZA is currently penning a book about the mind state of the hip-hop artist.

Tracklist:
1.Opening
2.Those Thats Bout That
3.Destruction of a Guard
4.Exploitation of Mistakes
5.General Principles
6.Advanced Pawns
7.Queens Gambit
8.All in Together
9.Unstoppable Threats
10.Unprotected Pieces
11.Illusory Protection
12.Smothered Mate

It seems like GZA has been playing some chess lately. Anyway  Grandmasters will be copped  :)

Here's the tracklist of Raekwon's new The Vatican Mixtape Vol.1:
1. Intro 0:16
2. Let My n****s Live Feat Nas 3:29
3. Skit 0:54
4. You Might Die 3:11
5. Major Waves 0:59
6. Tony Soprano 0:20
7. Gun King 0:57
8. Still Killin' 0:55
9. Yae-Yo 2:33
10. King Pinz 2:30
11. The Heist Feat Ghost Face & Busta Rhymes 3:55
12. Baggage Handlers Feat Busta Rhymes 3:09
13. Diesel Feat Wu-Tang 4:58
14. Spring Water 2:42
15. 45's 0:40
16. Big Spender 3:23
17. The Truth Feat Method Man 2:09
18. Make Moves 3:19
19. Eldarado Feat Ghost 1:19
20. Purple Jag Feat Posta Boy 2:13
21. Bump Bump Feat Prince Po 2:37
22. Shame on a n**** feat O.D.B 1:16
23. Pop Off 0:59
24. Joe Pesci 0:27
25. Ice Water Inc 3:24
26. Thousands to M's 3:06
27. Kids Thats Rich 2:28
28. Scarface SKit 1:32
29. Raekwon Speaks and Good Kush Feat Jagged Edge 1:47
30. Fish & Chips 1:57
31. Biggie, Big Pun, Raekwon, Nas 3:24
32. Vatican 0:39
33. Down South 0:37
34. Ice Water Cuts 1:32
35. Ghetto Boy Feat Wu-Tang 2:10

New Ghostface interview
(credit to IGN)
Born Dennis Coles, Ghostface Killah began his career with a seemingly indefatigable series of lacerating verses on both Wu-Tang Clan's historic debut Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) and on Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, the first album released by his longtime partner-in-crime Raekwon the Chef. But Ghostface's own solo debut, Ironman, heralded the arrival of a hip-hop savant - an artist who re-invented emceeing even as he offered some of the genre's most exhilarating verses - and announced that his was a talent that didn't require an ensemble in order to bolster its strength.

Three more albums came and went - including Supreme Clientele, Bulletproof Wallets and The Pretty Toney Album - and even if Ghostface's record sales didn't always grow, his status as one of the most respected rapper in the industry continued to appreciate; last year, he landed a recording deal with Def Jam, and intends to release a follow up to Pretty Toney by year's end.

During his recent appearance with Raekwon at the Rock the Bells concert in San Bernadino, California, Ghostface sat down with IGN Music to discuss his future as a rapper on Wu-Tang projects and as a solo artist. As he reveals, the lifestyle of a successful lyricist isn't always the decadent stuff of music video fantasies, but a difficult, dispiriting experience where one album flop can land you at the bottom of the hip-hop heap.
IGN Music: Do you follow any kind of guiding principle when you put together the music and lyrics for your songs?

Ghostface Killah: Yeah. It's all in the music first. The music is like women to me. It's like how you pick your music: everybody got their own different way how they pick their women and their music, and I guess that's what the album becomes. I can't even describe what I like; what I like is what you already heard, from Ironman to Supreme Clientele to Bulletproof Wallets - that's what I had felt - to Pretty Toney to what's going on right now. It's all about the beat first, and after the beat, the beat makes me go ahead and work my album, once I hear the beat and whatever mode I'm in to approach that beat or whatever that beat makes me feel. Like on "All I Got is You," it made me feel like that's what needed to be said, and it's like the beat made me do it. People say 'the devil made me do it,' but it's the beat that made me do it. But from hip-hop music, God gave me an ear - it's a soulful ear, a fresh ear - it's just something that where my soul is at, it just grabs it, and that's where I come up with all of my beats.

It's [also] what you do to the beat. It's like how you get a woman, it's like how you f*ck her. Some n*ggas can't f*ck, and a lot of n*ggas think they know how to rhyme that can't rhyme. But it's how you make love to the beat. That's what I kind of try to do, and that's how you get Ghostface albums.

IGN Music: Your music continues to employ sampling despite the industry trend towards more live instrumentation. What is it about sampling that appeals to you over the use of an actual band?

Ghostface: The reason why I hold onto samples is because that's me. That's what made me. When I sample from old records, those records were in my heart when I was a little kid. I feel like that's the best music that ever was made, ever in time. The new sh*t, like you said, is synthetic; it's like a body with no heart, you know what I mean? Like you are a clone. It's like with no heart, no nothing. They make love songs now that I can't really feel, but when I heard The Moments and Isley Brothers and Marvin Gaye and all of the greats from back then, you could feel it. Otis Redding and them- you could feel it. And I always thought that music was better than the music that we come with right now. It's like, everybody's using keyboards in everything, but back then we were using straight instruments and making albums. We don't do that no more. There's no creativity in what we're dealing with, so there's no feeling.

IGN Music: How much are you influenced by your own personal experiences when you write lyrics for your songs?

Ghostface: It depends. Like "Save Me Dear," I did on my last album, it was like 'yeah, I loved a girl that much,' like I really liked a girl, you know what I mean? But with that right there, I made it about a girl that I wished that - the story is true, and a lot of things that I added on to wish on how she would fit that mold right there to be my kin. There aren't too many other stories on there too much, though, [but] I got "Love," and I love that beat right there. It felt like you needed some love on it, so I did "Love," the sh*t I did with Musiq [Soulchild]. I did "Tooken Back," and I did some and it was based on this girl with a little bit of other herbs sprinkled on it though to try to complete the record, but mainly based on a true story. So sometimes you make true stories, and sometimes you make fiction stories, or whatever, as long as the picture that you can paint to the people [is something] that somebody else can see, or that somebody else went through.

IGN Music: I have a bunch of your white-label 12" singles that have been released in the past couple of years, including tracks like "The Watch." How do you come up with the flow and content of these songs, which seem so unpredictable?

Ghostface: The music makes me feel it. 'Catch me in a crisp blue six, deep dish, doors is crisp, velour stopped at the wrist,' and once I got the velour jacket 'that stopped at the wrist,' my watch is right there (looking at his watch). Also, 'talk to me trick daddy,' and I was just like, oh, let me make it like [my watch is] talking to me. That's what is was, and then we start arguing because he started getting smart like, 'yo, you ain't live no more,' and we're beefin', and I'm like 'I'll put you back on the shelf' and 'I'll stop your heart from ticking' and it just went like that.

IGN Music: Well, after you work so hard to come up with an idea like that, how do you decide what goes on an album and what doesn't, since these tracks are as strong as anything that shows up on your LPs?

Ghostface: It wasn't that. They wouldn't clear my sample (Barry White's "I'm Gonna Love You Just A Little More, Baby"). I wished that would have been on my album.

IGN Music: Do you make a distinction at all when you are writing or producing tracks for yourself as opposed to your collaborations with Wu-Tang or Raekwon?

Ghostface: No, it's all the same. I just do it just to do it, but I know when I do Cuban Link, I've got to get way, way, way more street and grimy, but other than that it depends on what they're saying on the track. If I'm on a Clan album, then I might have to follow suit; it just depends on how it goes, but if I'm setting it off [by myself], then I've got to just feel how it should sit on the beat. Because if a beat is too soft, I'm not really going to say no hard sh*t, but it depends- what the beat calls for, you know what I mean? Like the beat gets what is called for at that time.

IGN Music: How have those experienced how the new record sounds or will sound as you are assembling it?

Ghostface: I could never really tell you what direction. It's just however God just makes it; that's how all of my albums are. I don't really aim for a direction, but I just pick the best beats I can pick and that's it.

IGN Music: How far along is the new album?

Ghostface: That's finished. I'm just waiting for he guys to get on, because I did like thirty songs in like four months because I broke my ankle. God gave me a lot of nice beats through people like MF Doom, Pete Rock, Lewis Parker from Europe, I've got Scram Jones...

IGN Music: Are you trying to explore production outside the lines of the commercial mainstream?

Ghostface: I'm resting with the underground right now, and all of that other stuff. It's like I had Missy Elliot on the last track, but it was kind of commercial and people said I shouldn't have made that move right there, but Def Jam released it at the wrong time - they should have released it when I did that Beyonce thing ["Summertime"] when Missy was kind of bubblin'. After I came with "Run," I came with that, and it kind of f*cked me up. They thought it was going to take me out of here on some commercial sh*t and it backfired on a kid, you know what I mean?

I don't want to deal with too many $60- 100,000 producers, because I don't have the type of money to be putting in their hands anyway, but I've got a bunch of smaller guys - 'come on, I've only got five g's, g' - and I've got three, I've got ten, but anything over that, I can't sling that like that. It's a beat; it's just going on the album, it's not even making like if that's going to be a single, so I stay with the underdogs.

IGN Music: Do you have a favorite album or track from all of the material you have produced?

Ghostface: I don't know. I can't really tell you, because Supreme was funnier, more live, I guess based on the skits, and maybe sometimes the feel of the music. Like I said, I've got a certain feel, so on Bulletproof Wallets, if people would have gave me those kinds of beats, then I could have f*cked around and did that. But I didn't get those type, so I gotta work with what I work with, and that's how you get certain albums.

At the same time, I don't want every album to sound the same anyway, but if somebody respects, say, Supreme, I would love to go ahead and do it again for them. Like how they say 'hey, Cuban Link,' but if all of the Cuban Link beats had the same feel, then it's going to be a different feeling, and it might be a better feeling - you never know. It's always hard to try to knock the next one that you had just put out.

IGN Music: Has changing labels changed your approach or your creative freedom on new songs or albums?

Ghostface: It's all the same. This is my second album made on Def Jam, and the first one flopped based on [the fact] they made a transition there, they switched bosses, and my album was just left in the air. It was a good album, though, but I couldn't do anything. The only thing [changing labels] gives me is a bunch of headaches or something, knowing that I can do good. If these were drugs, this would be the top of the line of coke, like the top of the line, but it just didn't get marketed right. It's not going all over the world and it's not getting distributed how it should be. [But] I got L.A. Reid and Jay-Z up there and I think they understand because I wouldn't be there if it was like that, so I just hope that through God's will everything will just be fine and I can go ahead and feel how I'm supposed to really feel. Sometimes I'm making the music, but then when it's only selling 100,000, it seems like it weakens you a little bit, so you can be doubting yourself, and it can tire you. So you've got to be string and fight through all of that, and that's what I'm going through right now. I'm just fighting, because that's how I eat - just by doing records and then going on shows and getting money from shows, surviving.
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Post by: daigong on August 14, 2005, 09:58:26 PM
Damn!! GZA couldn't be outdone by RZA!! It should be thicker at least.

Haven't heard much Muggs shit lately...I did like Soul Assasins. Wu-Tang makes me poor too.  :o
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Post by: Masa on August 15, 2005, 08:46:34 PM
I got yall some serious crack:
(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2225/muggsgza033fc.jpg)
DJ Muggs & GZA - Those That's Bout It (http://rapidshare.de/files/4010670/those_thats_bout_it.mp3.html)
DJ Muggs & GZA - All In Together (http://rapidshare.de/files/4010975/all_in_togeather.mp3.html)

Those That's Bout It is the first single and the beat is fire, GZA sounds a bit lazy on it but overall it's tight. All In Together is an ODB tribute. I love the beat and GZA's sharp lyrics paint a beautiful picture of ODB's tragic life. RIP ODB. If the whole album is as dope as these two songs, it's definitely gonna be GZA's best album since Liquid Swords. I haven't been feeling Muggs' latest shit at all but dude really stepped his game up.

GZA & DJ MUGGS :thumbsup

PURE CRACK!
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Post by: MochaNutz on August 18, 2005, 07:11:39 AM
Kanye's Late Registration comes out in less than 2 weeks.  I don't care what y'all say about Kanye, I like him and at least he's bringing quality music to the mainstream =)

Listening to the snippets, it seems like its gonna be a decent album.  

Tracklist

1. Wake Up Mr. West (:41)        
2. Heard 'Em Say featuring Adam Levine of Maroon 5 (3:24)        
3. Touch The Sky featuring Lupe Fiasco (3:56)        
4. Gold Digger featuring Jamie Foxx (3:27)        
5. Skit #1 (:33)        
6. Drive Slow featuring Paul Wall & GLC (4:32)        
7. My Way Home featuring Common (1:43)        
8. Crack Music featuring Game (4:31)        
9. Roses (4:05)        
10. Bring Me Down featuring Brandy (3:19)        
11. Addiction (4:27)        
12. Skit #2 (:31)        
13. Diamonds From Sierra Leone (Remix) featuring Jay-Z (3:53)        
14. We Major featuring Nas & Really Doe (7:28)        
15. Skit #3 (:24)        
16. Hey Mama (5:05)        
17. Celebration (3:18)        
18. Skit #4 (1:19)        
19. Gone featuring Consequence & Cam'Ron (5:33)        
20. **BONUS TRACK**Diamonds From Sierra Leone (3:58)        
21. **HIDDEN TRACK** Late (3:50)  

Most of the beats i've heard, I didn't like them at first.  When I first heard Diamonds,  I was like, "eh".  But when he performed it live at Much (i was there! =D) Its fucking dope now.  Same goes for Gold Digger, its a funny track that i can't help bumpin' =D

Heard Em Say is one of the snippets that i liked right when i first heard it.  Nice way to start the album.

If thats the same My Way he wrote back then, its gonna be even better with Common on the track.

Crack Music, i'm getting used to...

We Major feat Nas, that track is kinda weird at first.  I think that sample is from Phantasy Star Online or something... i heard it before.  But the more i listen to it, the more i like it.  Same with Gone.  

Hey Mama, we knew it was gonna be on this album =)  I still bump it.

Anyways, 2 weeks.  Seems like its gonna be a great album.

---

I recently got the Frank Sinatra & Notorious BIG : Bed Stuy Meets Blue Eyes.  Its fucking dope!  Frank Sinatra songs sampled on biggie acapellas.  I really recommend it.

Hmm, i think thats all the new shit i got.  The 9th Wonder/Buckshot album is pretty nice.  Typical 9th Wonder, but still good.  Don't Know Why is a dope joint.

What else, oh Canadian Hip Hop, Listen to DL Incognito.  I have his 2 albums.  Real nice.
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Post by: Masa on August 19, 2005, 05:13:25 PM
Kanye's new album finally leaked and I'm feeling it more than College Dropout.

Jacked from Chambermusik:
Breaking News: We have just been informed on the progress of the 5th Wu-Tang Clan album. So far, they have recorded 10 songs and RZA is orchestrating a live band to back up the Clan. So far though; Cappadonna, Ghostface Killah and U-God have not appeared on any of the tracks. Even vocals of Ol' Dirty Bastard are on this album. More newz will follow.

 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
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Post by: daigong on September 01, 2005, 10:13:43 AM
thanks for the link, got da hook up from Masa earlier. I think I heard "Back To Basics" somewhere before and that's my fave song of the 2.

Fave songs on Late Registration: Crack Music (yeah, it should be our theme song) and Touch The Sky :D
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Post by: kyo45 on September 06, 2005, 08:04:19 PM
the only rappers i've really been into are del the funky homosapien and mc chris
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Post by: MochaNutz on September 08, 2005, 05:47:53 AM
Del is dope.  I've only started listening to those Heiro cats this past year.  Besides Del,  Pep Love is one of my favorite mcs from Heiroglyphics.
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Post by: MochaNutz on September 15, 2005, 11:44:06 PM
am i allowed to do this?

well, since this is the rap thread, i can talk about this.  i posted my doom remix on the doom boards HERE (http://mfdoom.headringer.net/viewtopic.php?t=22374&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

Sure all my friends think its good, but i wanted to hear what the public would think.  I got pretty good responses, actually.  So, i'm happy.  i agree with what they said.  I hope DOOM listened to it =D

If you have to delete that link to the doom boards, then here's the rapidshare page
http://rapidshare.de/files/3879925/MF_DOOM_-_My_Favorite_Ladies__Sentimental_Friends_Remix_.mp3.html
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Post by: Masa on September 27, 2005, 07:40:09 AM
This, That, and the 'Other': The RZA on the Miscegenation of Hip-Hop
by Chi Tung (http://www.asiaarts.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=30240)

One can't help but wonder: what is The RZA, hip-hop visionary and all-around badass doing on the cover of an Asian arts magazine? Why, to tell us, of course, that rap music rings loudest and clearest when it springs from the unlikeliest of sources.

Here’s something you might not hear every day: Hip-hop could learn a thing or two from Asian culture. Yes, Asian culture. If that’s a tough pill to swallow, consider this next statement: hip-hop, contrary to what those with sociocultural degrees would have you believe, isn’t changing the way this generation expresses itself. It’s how this generation sees itself --ballsy, self-congratulatory, articulate in inarticulation -- as refracted through nearsighted lenses. Squint a little harder and you’re left asking inane questions like: Is 50 Cent’s name supposed to be ironic? How deep does Mobb Deep roll? (In case you were wondering: No, and two.) Still, you can’t knock the hustle -- with the twitch of an eyelash, hip-hop has turned into the greatest story ever sold, bar none. Except what’s not told, at least not without a lot of hemming and hawing, are words that still cause us to collectively shudder: the “R” word (race), the “C” word (class), the “M” words (misogyny, masochism, materialism.) Let's broach the topic anyways: how do we reconcile the seedy underbelly of hip-hop culture with its Mr. Brightside: this burgeoning sense of solidarity, of authenticity, of unbridled huzzah that the huddled masses -- tired, poor and everything else in between -- can finally call their own?

Short answer: We can’t. At least not yet. At least not completely. Long answer: Because as the long-suffering folks in New Orleans can attest to, there are the have-nots and then the rest of us—armchair critics, politicians, people who mean well but haven’t got a clue. Therein lies part of the problem: most of us still treat hip-hop like some charity project -- give us some slithering basslines and some zero-to-hero swagger and we’ll shake our tailfeathers, no questions asked. Ask the same of our hearts -- or our minds -- and the conversation immediately turns to U2. Hubris, violence, vulgarity: pick your poison. But think carefully before you decide where to cast stones, for reasons that are twofold. Number one: Asian culture. Number two: the RZA.

“Shaolin is like the well all martial arts films spring from, and Wu Tang is an offshoot of that,” he explains. Explicitly, of course, he means the legendary warrior clan, not the rap supergroup he heads. Then again, the differences may not be as great as you think.

“First thing that drew me to martial arts films was the action,” he admits. “American action films at the time were all about sucker punches and stuff that wasn’t so tough. But then when Bruce Lee appeared, you had a chance to see something smoother, with more catlike agility. So I was more hooked on the look.” In other words, it was lust at first sight. True love, however, awaited him.

“It wasn’t until I saw 36 Chambers [Hong Kong chopsocky great Lau Kar Leung’s piece de resistance; read about it here] that I understood Shaolin Temple to be this real, live place. And it just sparked my heart; it hit me somewhere I understood. I wasn’t watching it for the moves anymore; I was listening to the philosophy, listening to what was being talked about.”

What was being talked about within the film were themes commonplace in kung fu lore: brotherhood, patience-as-paramount-virtue, the transferral of inner woe onto your unsuspecting foes. Outside of this metaphysical vacuum, however, a subtler conversation took place between the RZA and ... well, the RZA. The spark had ignited a flame that could not be fanned by mere urban triumphalism and dog-eat-dog street smarts.

Which leads us to a rather peculiar sense of ethos, not to mention identity. Because yes, there’s no getting around it: the RZA is Black. He’s also quite a few other things, all of which are no less noteworthy: rapper (pseudonyms include Prince Rakeem and Bobby Digital), producer (Wu-Tang albums as well as soundtracks, such as Kill Bill), actor (small, but scene-stealing roles in Ghost Dog: Way of the Samurai and Coffee and Cigarettes, a starring turn in the upcoming Derailed), director (his own contribution to the martial arts canon, Man with the Iron Fist, is slated to be filmed in Taiwan later this year). Then, there’s arguably his greatest achievement, the one that, interestingly enough, nobody talks about: planting Asia smack-dab in the middle of a discussion that has perennially been the proverbial stomping grounds for, yes, Black people.

“It’s kinda funny, when I first started the Wu-Tang Clan, there were some guys in the neighborhood that wouldn’t get down with it. They said, “You’re on some Chinese shit.”

The RZA furrows his brow a bit when he says this; it’s a silent acknowledgment that the blurring of color lines, even on a municipal scale, is more convoluted than you think. But the implications are impossible to ignore: the Wu -Tang Clan, rap’s poster boys for interdependence and thicker-than-water synchronicity are, as it turns out, fronted by a Black man who’s “on some Chinese shit.”

Which means ... well, what exactly? There’s a thin line between fetish and fandom, neither of which accurately describes the RZA’s allegiance to Asian culture. You see, I failed to mention earlier that on top of everything else, the RZA writes. Books. (Well, technically, a book—so far only Volume One of the Wu Tang Manual is sitting on shelves.) On Asian philosophy. East-Asian spirituality. On how a bunch of young, angry black men reppin' the East coast (Staten Island, in particular), through his coaxing (and presumably coaching) found themselves aligned with the far East, not just aesthetically and semantically -- the first few Wu albums are littered with sampled bits of dialogue from classic kung-fu flicks -- but ideologically too. The physical themes -- guns, drugs, institutional oppression -- enmeshed in a metaphysical framework that upon first listen might be indecipherable, but with renewed persistence, lodges itself right in the marrow.

Only someone with an unobstructed cross-cultural vantage point would dare to cobble together the grimiest, most unscrupulous aspects of street culture with the élan of Asian cinema (meaning kung-fu, samurai flicks, and their accompanying credos) and attempt to pass it off to the unsuspecting consumer as just another typical East coast rap production of its time -- raw, uncensored, chocked full of attitude. But the RZA didn’t stop there. Beyond its trenchant insights into what makes the Wu tick, Volume One of the Wu Tang Manual is a blueprint for a lifestyle that has nothing at all to do with glocks and gangs and everything to do with living. And with that, bursting right through another one of rap’s taboos: proudly emblazoning the “S” word -- spirituality.

Here’s what’s interesting though: when the RZA talks about his spiritual roots, he’s not standoffish about it. (Um, Tom Cruise?) Nor does he get into the habit of building castles in the sand. Forthcoming immediately comes to mind, though it’s more than that -- he’s always attuned to the rhythm of the conversation, so he knows when to say just as much as what and how to say it. To borrow a Wu-ism, he kicks some knowledge. The kind that permeates thoughts without overwhelming them. The kind that's content with leaving loose ends untied.

“It’s a very humble, passive life,” he declares haltingly when I ask him about the Buddhist tenets that color his worldview. Then there’s no holding him back: “But we live in a very turbulent world. So with that humble, passive existence, what happens when it meets that turbulence? I see it as staying at peace but preparing for war. Same way as when a man says ‘amitofu,' the Buddhist mantra. It’s a greeting, but also a block. So I was able to use all that and apply it to myself. Like if it’s not my brother, I can go as wild as I want. But among your brothers and classmates, you should always humble yourself and turn the other cheek.”

In hip-hop, turning the other cheek is a laughable concept, not to mention a highfalutin one. Even your Commons and Talib Kwelis -- contemporary rap at its most milquetoast -- aren’t above verbal brawls and petty name-calling once in awhile. The Wu Tang Clan, meanwhile, helped legitimize anarchic gestures in rhyme, constantly boasting about their exploits and threatening to exact street justice.

“It’s funny that the Wu Tang are considered bad guys,” he says with a noticeable snort. “Because they still had that foundation in Shaolin. We can’t deny that in the beginning, we broke a lot of clubs, a lot of rules, but to me, it fit in right where we were supposed to be.”

Believe it or not, that foundation found its way into the Wu’s familiar gangster posturing. Through thick and thicker, a palpable sense of respect lingered --the clumsily endearing fashion in which they called on each other to lend a hand, whether it be musically (dropping a guest verse or two) or otherwise (stashin the dope; running from the cops). This sweet, but never saccharine bond extended to the Wu’s friends, allies and other figures of import, real and imaginary. Context and connections meant everything to the Wu -- their shout-outs and oblique references added heft to their personal experiences, a sense of greater belonging. Not to mention a few “H” words.

“I start writing Volume Two in January,” announces the RZA excitedly. “This one will be similar to Volume One, except there’s even more history, even more about people paying homage to each other.”

“Homage” and “history” are concepts that inevitably weave their way into the hip-hop landscape, especially as discursive fodder. And rightfully so -- hip-hop, like any other art form still struggling to find its footing amidst all that pop-culture-cacophany, has one foot in the distant past and the other, well, in the past a little less distant. Unsurprisingly, all configurations traverse through a sprawling, well-traveled road of Black homogeneity -- African folk and soul music serving as the sonic backdrops; slavery, the Civil Rights Movement and the Nation of Islam the driving lyrical and thematic forces. In the late ‘80s, early ‘90s, acts like Ice Cube, KRS-One and Public Enemy jumpstarted the Black power movement; resulting in contemporary hip-hop’s raison d’etre (if there is, in fact, such a thing) -- bringin da funk to the fan. Since then, its visceral impact has been slowed by social, cultural, economic complacency, leaving hip-hop in a curious state of limbo: certainly not worse off -- creative advancements grow more and more startling by the day -- but less forceful and ensnared in self-denial.

Self-denial because as much as we’d all like to think snapshot commercialization and one-off virtuosity -- it’s no coincidence that a hip-hop artist’s first album is always his or her finest -- is the exception rather than the rule, let’s face it: cash rules everything around us, and rappers are no different from the rest of us in that they want to capitalize. Which goes back to rap and society: there’s no doubt that the subcultural divide is being bridged by artists and groups who never could’ve existed ten, 20 years ago. But at the forefront, there’s what? Kanye West, maybe Outkast, and everyone else. This doesn’t constitute a movement, just scattershot brilliance.

Connecting the dots, then, becomes quite a daunting task: where does one begin? Strangely enough, with mythology. And, of course, the RZA and his infinite wisdom.

“I’m gonna say this straight up,” he booms, nearly ominously, and you know that playtime is effectively over. “Wu Tang stuff is considered mythology. But a myth is something that’s not true. We spoke the truth on a lot of stuff, but it’s just so out of place in the world today that it seems like a myth. There’s always gonna be a spot for the truth because it’s the dominant force in the universe, whether man accepts it or not. Man fights it every day but what he doesn’t realize is when he breathes in, he’s gotta breathe out -- he can’t overtake the truth and what’s real.”

He pauses, ever so briefly, perhaps to catch his breath, though it’s probably of greater importance that I catch mine.

“For example, someone can watch the TV all day and not realize he’s watching different colors and a piece of glass. If you really want to, you can pick up a bottle and break it and you can envision what you want in the bottle. I play with glass and it becomes camera lenses.”

He finishes with the crème de la creme: “Just know that society distorts things. The truth is considered a myth and the myth can be considered the truth.”

Essentially, what he’s saying is this: realness, the perpetual measuring stick for hip-hop, is totally arbitrary: getting shot nine times in the mouth and then selling a shitload of records may be loosely based on history and homage (think 2pac, Biggie, and the L.A. riots), but who cares when that understanding is so fractious and frivolous? Can an art form which inflates its past fully come to terms with its present? And more importantly -- what is the truth anyways?

The answers have been blowin’ in the wind for quite some time -- rappers are better at diversion than anyone on the planet -- but the point is they don’t have to be. The key to hip-hop’s permanent stranglehold on cultural relevance may lie in its ability to unlock the interlocking past of others. It’s not always well-publicized, but more than any other ethnic group, African-Americans feast on martial-arts films; from the Bruce Lees of yesteryear to the Jet Lis of the present, kung-fu artists are lionized for their take-no-guff, anti-establishment chutzpah. Only instead of packing the rhetorical punch of Black martyrs like Malcolm and Martin, they let actions speak louder than their words—the flying dragon kick, for example. Conversely, Asian youth desperately seek ghettoization; it’s about refuting the reputation that they’re too straight-edged and hung up on bourgeois entitlement issues. The cynic might argue it’s a classic case of escapism -- neither group wishes to look their own squarely in the eye, so they find their jollies elsewhere. But that’s ignoring the undeniable benefits of multiculturalism -- the irrational fear that by letting in a greater variety of images and ideas, your own authenticity gets diluted in the process. It’s exactly this sort of tunnel-visioned cultural approach that, in the eyes of the RZA at least, goes a long way in explaining the vicious cycle that has plagued both hip-hop communities and global ones alike.

“A lot of the brothers in my neighborhood studied Mathematics, the study of Islam,” he says.” “And the first question in the 120 [120 Degrees, the teachings of Mohammed] asks: ‘Who is the original Black man?’ And the answer says, ‘The Asiatic Black Man.’ No disrespect to the white man, but he separated everybody; within Asia he made 50 countries, within those 50 countries he made 50 cities, within those 50 cities he made 50 neighborhoods. So why are some of these other artists into Black power? They’re also making themselves separate. It’s not about Black power; it’s about peace for all man.”

You don’t have to drink the kool-aid on everything the RZA says. A lot of open-minded, discerning folks will take one look at the words “Asiatic Black man” and decide that enough is enough. But the principle is an important one, even within the limited confines of hip-hop and race. Separatism is by no means the defining characteristic of today’s hip-hop (or even yesterday’s), but give it the tiniest bit of daylight and darkness descends over what is singular, and what is just plain stuck.

“Me being a man that appreciates culture -- if it wasn’t for Asian culture and civilization, I’d have no true reference of history,” he says candidly. Because everything in history for the Black man in America during the ‘70s and ‘80s didn’t go past slavery.”

We tend to think of history and spirituality as abstractions rather than living, breathing entities: the Emancipation Proclamation was a watershed event, not some dried-up, crusty manuscript; God/Buddha/Mohammed lives within us, even if we can’t always see his/her/its presence. But hip-hop was built for the quotidian; the size of a glock, the pain of the hustle finely and unflinchingly rendered. All of which is small potatoes when stacked next to something like, oh, say, the Shi Ji: a towering colossus of lurid details, melodramatic plots, government overthrows -- in a nutshell, a blow-by-blow account of dynastic China. Compiled by a man named Shi Ma Qian, it’s the world’s most comprehensive -- and dramatic -- history textbook, and a living, breathing one too -- one could argue that it -- along with Confucius’ Analects, Sun Tzu’s The Art of War and the Dao De Ching --shaped the very fabric of Chinese intellectual, political, psychological, economic thought, even to this day. What’s my point? Only that it’s not enough anymore to eulogize your own. Simply put, for hip-hop to thrive on its own terms -- not the terms of our congressmen, pop culture trendsetters, or, ahem, music critics -- it must not forget to breathe out once it breathes in. To face what is at first foreign and mysterious and exotic may not be comfortable or make for art that is knee-jerk compelling. Who knows: perhaps the Asiatic Black man is a myth. But myths are created for a reason: to spark our hearts in ways we never imagined. And to show us that what’s illusory one moment may become hard, incontrovertible fact the next.

“History writes itself sometimes,” the RZA says with a shrug. The question is, should we expect the same from hip-hop?


RZA is the man!
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Post by: daigong on September 27, 2005, 08:06:55 AM
RZA is my idol

and Mocha...mad fuckin skillz bro!! :bow: hypnotic hooks with the piano bit at the beginning.
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Post by: Masa on October 28, 2005, 04:24:44 PM
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UNITED!

From sohh.com:

There was no No. 45 jersey, but teammates, both old and new, came out to support Jay-Z as he made a Michael Jordan-esque comeback last night at his "I Declare War" concert at New Jersey's Continental Airlines Arena.

The location, which also serves as home to Hov's New Jersey Nets, seemed like a fitting one. As the jerseys of Nets greats like Julius "Dr. J" Erving hung from the rafters, there was a sense of history in the air.

For those in attendance at the first of two scheduled "I Declare War" shows-the second to be held in Philadelphia tomorrow night-they got to witness a Hip-Hop reunion and a new alliance in the same night.

First there was the reunion as Beans made his return to the Roc. Dispelling rumors that he would or had signed a deal with 50 Cent's G-Unit imprint, Beans, decked out in Roc-A-Fella chains, emphatically said, "Roc for life, n****."

If that weren't enough, later in the show Jigga was joined by Nas. In a move that many thought would never happen, the two emcees not only shared the same stage-they performed "Dead Presidents."

While Jay and Nas have reconciled, the Queens emcee took what appeared to be a jab at a certain multiplatinum MC who's also from Queens: "I don't understand n****s making all this money and being mad at the world...We're bringing NY back."

Despite all the speculation as to who Jay was going to "declare war on," the rest of the show was beef-free. The Lox performed with no mention of rival G-Unit. They teamed with Jay, Beans and Sauce Money for "Reservoir Dogs." The Yonkers trio even reunited with Diddy for "All About The Benjamins."

In true Jay fashion, the show also featured a host of other celebrities who have in one way or another worked with President Carter. The show included appearances by Kanye West, Young Jeezy, T.I., Paul Wall, LeBron James, Swizz Beatz, Akon, Tiearra Mari, Ne-Yo, Peedi Peedi, and GLC.

In between the star-studded collabos and guest appearances, Jay did perform a host of his classics like "Song Cry.," "What More Can I Say" and "Hard Knock Life," among others.

Jay-Z closed the show appropriately with "Encore." With Nas on the hook and his famous friends backing him up, Jay closed the show as only a president could-diplomatically.

"That beef shit is wack," he said. "We did that, we had fun. Now lets get this money."

This is hip hop history!
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East Coast is back bitches!  :yep:
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Post by: StreakInTheSky on October 29, 2005, 06:25:52 AM
:shock:

Nas and Jay-Z?!  :lol:

Nas > J btw  :P
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Post by: daigong on November 02, 2005, 09:57:48 AM
hmm!! liking DL Incognito. sounds raw like Wu-Tang...much better than the MC's I'm watching on Much ROFL.

and shheeet. That should be the theme of a segment of our Radio show. Nas and Jay-Z together. And post Mochanutz's remixes too. :D

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Post by: daigong on November 08, 2005, 07:16:36 AM
November 13th is the one year anniversary of the passing of Ol Dirty Bastard...

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/rza%20i%20started%201998%20club%20riot

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WU-TANG CLAN rapper RZA has come clean about the 1998 riot that almost led to his untimely death at a California show - he started it.

The hip-hop star admits he was "the problem" that sparked the infamous club fight that ended with late bandmate OL' DIRTY BASTARD pulling out a gun on stage and firing it into the rafters, clearing the venue.

He says, "Some n**ga looked at me funny, and I threw my drink in his face, and he was a tough dude and wanted to fight. So we beat his a*s and security came, and we were beating security's a*s.

"I remember taking my chair and just breaking the whole bar up. Then a n**ga pulled a gun on me, two feet away, and Dirty caught him before he had a chance to shoot me. It was pandemonium."

Ironically, the show went on for the rap supergroup and it was one of their best.

RZA, real name ROBERT DIGGS, regrets the group's violent shows and their bombastic manner because it has won them many enemies in the music industry.

He explains, "Wu-Tang Clan came in so egotistic, so aggressive, that we basically made no friends in the rest of the industry."
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Post by: daigong on November 13, 2005, 11:15:10 AM
RIP ODB

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I know there are those who don't understand ur game, but you was the most original artist ever not named Rika Ishikawa. Thanks for making life fun.

You can cop a compiliation album from the official Wu-Tang Site:

http://www.wutangcorp.com/news/getarticle/article/636/?s=ce2b282a7d13ec976a665efc4c656c6e&#comments

when the new album gonna drop?

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Post by: daigong on November 16, 2005, 09:48:37 AM
Kardinal Offishall :canada:
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YEEEAAHH!! I got Kardinal Offishall's new album

(http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/5537/dsc012168vq.th.jpg) (http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc012168vq.jpg)

and it's TIGGHT, feat. guest appearances galore. and whoa, he's gonna be on  tour with 50??

http://kardinaloffishall.com

Tracks to be premiered on HiP HoP Hizzy this week ROFL!
http://www.miumu.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2277&mforum=jpmx
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Post by: Masa on December 27, 2005, 06:33:25 PM
A brand new Raekwon interview:

While poking around the Juelz show for any sort of grub besides skate rink corn dogs and nacho cheese, we accidentally rubbed shoulders with Shaolin’s finest, Chef Raekwon himself. Turns out Mr. Lex Diamonds was due to perform at that day (he ended up not going on), so there wasn't time to go Dr. Phil on him; instead, we just blurted out every question that’s been burning since we got word of the forthcoming Only Built 4 Cuban Linx II. He fed our minds, and will feed yours after the jump.

What’s going on with Cuban Linx II?

Working on, it’s finally in the makings. It’s gonna be a sick record, a lot of hard joints. We’re taking it back to like the underground, classic Wu-era. We had the different kinds of music, production and all that, so you’re gonna hear lots of street tales over gritty sounds, it’s gonna be hot though.

How much is RZA doing on the album?

He’s doing a substantial amount. He’s basically keeping our ears open to more product. Right now, it’s the new millennium, we’re not really trying to saturate it with just us, we want to be able to get other opportunities to producers too, to appear with someone that big. It’s really a blessing to be able to do it like that.

You just dropped a new mixtape too, right?

Yeah we got a new mixtape out called The Vatican, it’s basically just letting everybody know our brand is still out there. And you know you get a chance to hear some new songs, hear some skits, and basically just kind of fill out who I am, the person that I am. Like I said, it’s just to let people know to get ready for what’s about to come, so there’s a lot of highlights on this album that’s gonna be having people going crazy. Get ready for it.

How many cuts did you end up doing on Ghostface’s new album?

Must have done about 4 or 5 joints.

And that’s dropping a month or two before yours?

Well we’re looking for an April release, and I think Ghost is looking at February or March.

You think you’re gonna have any really easy single off the album, like Ghost is doing with “Be Easy”?

To be honest, if you really look at the element of [ Only Built 4 Cuban Linx] there’s a lot of street shit on that album, and I’m basically just trying to capture that for that core audience real quick, I’m not really caught up in the frame of having a mainstream record, I’m just giving everybody a vibe of what they wanted, when they wanted it. Singles will probably be announced, but it ain’t like I have one here or one there.

That’s probably for the better.

I mean I realized that I can’t sell myself short on how I feel. If this the music that I’m making, and at the time I want this to be heard, then that’s what it’s gonna be. It’s not just like I don’t have sympathy for the people or what they may want, but everybody want that hard shit from me, so I’m just gonna keep it hard.

Is there any one track on that album that you’re already really excited about, something on a level with other classics?

Well put it like this, I got a song on there with a couple of members from the Clan, and it’s called “The House of Flying Daggers.” And that’s gonna be a big record, because we kinda got everybody in the same frame of mind, it’s as if we did “Protect Ya Neck” again. We call the tongue a sword, so “The House of Flying Daggers” is a bunch of dudes with their swords out, getting busy. So it’s gonna be one of them kind of songs, that it’s gonna highlight the album and make the Wu so big that people are gonna be like “This is what we want to hear from you.” Like I said, I’m just rhyming, letting everybody know that I still got it. But when it comes time to judge a single, I’m not gonna judge it, I’m gonna let the people judge it. I feel more comfortable with them saying what they like and what they don’t like. Everybody can’t like everything, but at the same time I want to give the people a type of way where they can hear a couple of things and then recall it. But, this is a prolific record, this is a very, very high volume rap record. You ain’t gonna hear too much of that smooth clean shit on there. It’s gonna be a lot of dirty shit, but this is what people want. It’s the Cuban Link era, it’s on.

Do you think the clan is going to be doing anything as a whole any time soon?

I can say yeah. As far as us getting into the same building though, right at the moment, it’s kind of tough, because everybody has individual projects that still bring about financial problems. We just gotta stay busy and continue to do mad work.

It’s been a decade since Cuban Linx came out, are you thinking its going to be a decade more before a follow-up to this next one?

I know this game like you know how to tie your sneakers. I haven’t been able to drop a lot of albums, but in 2006 I got a new plan, a new development that’s going on, that y’all are gonna be like “Wow, he’s showing us his work ethic.” It’s still in the beginning stages of everything, even in my career. I got the energy for this though, I’m gonna be here for a long time.

The Chef is cooking up some marvelous shit  :yep:
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Post by: waso dodu on December 29, 2005, 02:38:40 PM
Quote from: Masa

Is there any one track on that album that you’re already really excited about, something on a level with other classics?

Well put it like this, I got a song on there with a couple of members from the Clan, and it’s called “The House of Flying Daggers.” And that’s gonna be a big record, because we kinda got everybody in the same frame of mind, it’s as if we did “Protect Ya Neck” again. We call the tongue a sword, so “The House of Flying Daggers” is a bunch of dudes with their swords out, getting busy. So it’s gonna be one of them kind of songs, that it’s gonna highlight the album and make the Wu so big that people are gonna be like “This is what we want to hear from you.” Like I said, I’m just rhyming, letting everybody know that I still got it. But when it comes time to judge a single, I’m not gonna judge it, I’m gonna let the people judge it. I feel more comfortable with them saying what they like and what they don’t like.

The Chef is cooking up some marvelous shit  :yep:



weeeeeeeeeeee
the title and description makes the song look promising
can't wait
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Post by: daigong on January 07, 2006, 08:15:37 AM
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Wu-Tang Clan - Initial Reunion Tour Dates
posted on 12-18-2005 @ 5:22 AM
Initial dates have been released for the WU-TANG CLAN's reunion tour:

February 8 - Worcester, MA @ The Palladium
February 10 - Philadelphia, PA @ The Electric Factory
February 17 - Ft. Lauderdale, FL @ Revolution
February 19 - Orlando, FL @ Hard Rock Live

Participating in the tour is the original line-up (minus O.D.B.) of RZA, GZA, METHOD MAN, GHOSTFACE KILLAH, RAEKWON, MASTA KILLA, INSPECTAH DECK, and U-GOD.


Lucky SOBs who can go  :evil:

And this looks wack, The Ghostface Killah doll: (http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=5183)

http://www.theghostfacedoll.com

The comic ones looked better  :lol:
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Post by: MochaNutz on January 10, 2006, 07:43:46 PM
Ghostface Killah is set to release a limited edition 9” tall action figure of himself (http://www.theghostfacedoll.com ), complete with real 14 karat gold jewelry.

The Iron Man is also focusing on his next album set for a February 28 release.  With production from MF DOOM, Pete Rock, J.Dilla, MadLib, and others, Ghostface Killah is getting ready to drop his fifth album, and second for Def Jam Recordings, Fishscale.  “Fishscale is just me showing that I can still ball with the best of them,” Ghost said. “With each album I learn, so this album has the most knowledge of all of them.”   “Back Like That,” featuring Def Jam signee Ne-Yo, is Fishscale’s soulful first single.

Fishscale looks like its gonna be dope already, with that production line.
For some reason, I see Masa gettin' that Ghostface doll  :lol:

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Also, I found this

http://www.realtorontodvd.com/index.html

"Toronto, known to most as a world class city has another side to it. This movie shows you the reality of living in housing projects and some of the most run down areas in the city. This footage includes interviews with gang members, drug dealers and some of the realest street rappers in Toronto. From Scarborough to Etobicoke this movie will take you through hoods in 9 different locations to show you"

I tend to stay away from the ghetto areas, if there are any in Toronto =P  I live in Scarborough which is known to be a ghetto part of the city, but i've never seen anything as bad as it is in the States.  A lot of shootings have been happening recently though, I think the most significant one is the young girl who was caught in the crossfire on Boxing Day (dec 26, 2005) at like, the most popular mall in the city (Eatons' Centre).  

Probably the only place I know that could have a real ghetto gang life is Jane and Finch.  But anyone ever see that asian video by Chuckie Akenz "You Got Beef?"  Hahaha, i'm sure you did XD  So, its kinda hard to take gangsta life seriously here.

Here's the vid for it anyways
http://jane-finch.com/videos/yougotbeef.htm


Honestly, in my view, I see very little ghetto life here.  If there is, they're pretty much born into it, trying to get out.  The rest, they want to be ghetto.  

Anyways, this dvd is surprising me, and I live here! =P  But, every city has a 'hood', so yea.
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Post by: Specz on January 11, 2006, 01:16:51 AM
Nice to see a hip hop thread around here. Im a big hip hop fan especially east coast rap. NY STAND THE FUCK UP!  :lol:
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Post by: Masa on January 14, 2006, 03:22:44 PM
The rumoured Fishscale tracklist:

1. Shakey Dog (prod Lewis Parker)
2. Kilos feat. Raekwon (prod MoSS)
3. Be Easy (prod Pete Rock)
4. Charlie Brown (prod MF Doom)
5. Barber Shop (prod Studio Steve)
6. Big Girl (prod Ghostface)
7. Bricks feat. Biggie and Raekwon (prod Cool & Dre)
8. Dawn feat. Capadonna (no producer info)
9. Back like that feat. Ne-Yo (prod Xtreme)
10. Chunky (prod Pete Rock)
11. Wu Joint (prod MF Doom)
12. Clips of Doom (prod MF Doom)
13. Whip You With A Strap (prod J Dilla)
14. Dawn feat. Capadonna & Trife (prod MF Doom)
15. Rae & Ghost (no producer info)
16. Underwater (prod MF Doom)
17. Can Can feat. Shawna & Shareefa (prod Ghostface)
18. Crackspot (prod Crack Val)
19. Family Affair (prod Pete Rock)

Quote from: Specz
Nice to see a hip hop thread around here. Im a big hip hop fan especially east coast rap. NY STAND THE FUCK UP!  :lol:

You better tune in to HiP HoP Hizzy (http://www.miumu.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2277&mforum=jpmx) today cause we're gonna have an East Coast Special. And I guarantee you that we will be playing classic shit only :)
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Post by: Masa on January 14, 2006, 11:11:48 PM
Ghostface Preps New Album, Wu-Tang To Tour

January 10, 2006, 2:00 PM ET
Jonathan Cohen, N.Y.

Wu-Tang Clan principal Ghostface Killah has put the finishing touches on his fifth album, "Fishscale," due Feb. 28 via Def Jam. The set is led by the single "Back Like That," which features up-and-coming Def Jam labelmate Ne-Yo. Production on the project was supplied by MF Doom, Pete Rock, Madlib and J. Dilla, among many others.

Rock produced "Be Easy," which hit the streets on mixtapes last fall, while Wu-Tang cohort Raekwon appears on four tracks, including "Kilo." Ghostface's manager tells Billboard.com the song "Wu United" features all the members of the Wu-Tang Clan, who are regrouping in February for their first tour since 1997. Kanye West is also working on a track for the project.

"Fishscale" is the follow-up to Ghostface's 2004 Def Jam debut, "The Pretty Toney Album," which opened at No. 6 on The Billboard 200 and has sold 219,000 copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan. Ghostface is also tipped to appear on Raekwon's sequel to his 1995 solo album "Only Built 4 Cuban Linx," but no release date has yet been confirmed.

As for the Wu-Tang tour, Ghostface's manager says all the members of the act will participate. At deadline, 10 shows were confirmed, beginning Feb. 7 in New Haven, Conn., but discussions are underway for additional summer dates. Both Raekwon and RZA hinted at the possibility of a Wu outing in prior interviews with Billboard.com, with RZA stressing that group members should be thinking about something other than money when it comes to Wu-Tang's future.

"I know everybody has a lifestyle they have to maintain," he told Billboard.com in February 2005. "Let's just say a Wu-Tang Clan album is worth a couple million dollars. Once 10 guys get on it, it's still worth a couple hundred grand. Some guys' lifestyles require them to make five or six hundred thousand dollars a year regardless. Maybe doing Wu-Tang will make you that much money, but doing it by yourself could you make you a million, because there aren't so many hands involved. But for the legacy, I think we should be willing to make that sacrifice and get it cracking."

Wu-Tang was able to reassemble for one show in California in July 2004 (chronicled on the CD/DVD "Disciples of the 36 Chambers") and another in New Jersey in November of that year the night before Ol' Dirty Bastard collapsed and died in a Manhattan recording studio.

Before the Wu dates, Ghostface will join Fort Minor at a Feb. 6 show in New York, and will then embark on his own tour in early March with Dead Prez's M1 and Sam Scarfo.

Also on tap for this spring is the release of a Ghostface action figure, which will come with a mixtape by a DJ to be announced. The doll, which is limited to 1,000, is decked out in 14-karat gold jewelry and can speak "Ghostface Killah catch-phrases," according to manufacturer 4Cast. Purchasers will also be eligible for a contest whose prize is spending a day with the rapper.

http://billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001808847
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Post by: Masa on January 19, 2006, 11:26:35 AM
NEWS!

Cam'ron dissing Jay-Z

Cam'ron Attacks Jay-Z With Dis Track 'You Got It'
01.18.2006 8:08 PM EST

Song even addresses Hov's girlfriend, Beyoncé.

After years of denying an apparent mutual disdain for each other, Cam'ron and Jay-Z appear on the brink of a full-on battle, and MTV News has exclusively obtained a listen to the opening salvo: a Cam dis track against Hov called "You Got It."

The seven-minute cut starts out with Cam outlining five reasons for his attack on Jay, including accusations that the Def Jam president stole the Roc-A-Fella empire and Kanye West from ex-partner Dame Dash as well as the Rocawear clothing line.

Further into the track, Cam spits, "You ain't the only one with big wallets/ Got it/ My sh--'s brolick/ But ya publishing should go to Miss Wallace/ ... Down at Jeezy's video/ I shoulda kissed you on the cheek/ You's a pretty ho'/ I left the label right/ Lotta cats wonder how/ Every time I dis that label I get fined a hundred thou."

In the upcoming March issue of XXL magazine, which features Cam'ron on the cover, the Harlem native sheds light on where things began to fall apart with Jay-Z. "The real problems began when Jay went away and Dame was talking about making me president. When Jay came back, he had an attitude," Cam told the publication. Cam told the publication. "He said to [Beanie Sigel] something to the effect that he didn't feel comfortable with what Dame was trying to do."

Cam'ron also takes time on "You Got It" to address Jay's girlfriend, Beyoncé. "Beyoncé, fiancee?/ Check my second LP/ I might bring her back/ That's your girl, that's your world/ Had the thing f---ing singing 'bout slinging crack!" The clip ends with Cam playing his 2000 collaboration with Beyoncé on the song "Do It Again."

It's not yet clear whether the dis record will appear on Cam's upcoming Killa Season album.

A spokesperson for Jay-Z could not be reached for comment.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1521141/01182006/cam_ron.jhtml?headlines=true

http://rapidshare.de/files/11324253/02_You_got_to_love_it_Beyonce.mp3.html

Jay-Z better come back and end this fool's career :lol:

Another Raekwon interview about Cuban Linx 2:

The year is 1993. Nine talented hip-hop lovers combine their abilities to form the notorious Wu-Tang Clan. Thirteen years later, after hip-hop cliques around the world were found imitating the Wu blueprint model, the members of this clique are dispersed throughout the country doing their own thing. Even
so, they’re still living and breathing Wu-Tang.Among these nine originators of hip-hop is Raekwon a.k.a. The Chef. Identifying himself with the Wu-Tang Clan and, through the experience,
molding himself into a talented hip-hop artist, Raekwon, today, is preparing for his comeback. Touching up an album, Only Built for Cuban Linx Pt. 2, set to be released in April 2006, Rae has been moving along a path, making right
turns in hip-hop with his music, stopping at red lights in business with his multi-purpose venture, Ice Water Inc., and disobeying speed limits on the streets with his mixtapes. What’s Rae really thinking about? MH2’s Stacy got the dish.

MH2: Your new one’s expected to drop in April. What can Wu-Tang and Raekwon fans expect?

R: Well, number one, what y’all can expect from me is to come back and really get real cold with everything right now. I got this album called Only Built 4 Cuban Linx Pt. 2 coming out. This is a very big, much-anticipated album. Basically, that was my first album that I started in the game with. You know, it’s 10 years later, people want Part 2 so that’s what I’ve been working on. And you know, right now, the Clan, we’ve all been huddling up in our own little ways, supporting the record.

MH2: So you all keep in touch?

R: Yeah, I mean we always keep in touch. We don’t see each other too much, but we definitely talk though.

MH2: What makes this album different from your past one?

R: Because, you know, the past one I’d just been doing what I’ve been doing: rhyming and making songs. But this one is more to the street, it’s harder. It’s me really making sure everything is dotted - the Is are dotted, the Ts are crossed. You know, me and RZA are back in effect together, as far as a
collaborated effort. It’s going to be ill. To me, this one is better than the first one. The only reason I say that is that my ability to rhyme is better and I get what I get into better. It’s just that I feel stronger. You know, as you get older, you get mature and you start knowing what really counts to make it work, and that’s what I’ve just been doing.

MH2: Besides that album, what else are you focused on?

R: We’ve just been doing underground music, keeping mixtapes out on the streets. That’s the new thing now so you just gotta keep your ear to the streets, and that’s what weve been doing. I’ve got a mixtape CD out now called The Vatican. I ve just been more or less staying on top of this project because this is a very serious project. And, right now, we gotta come to the masses with the fire. So it’s gonna be on.

MH2: What’s up with Wu-Tang? Which members are you tightest with?

R: I’m cool with all of them. (Who do you talk to on a regular basis?) I mean, nah, we don’t talk like that. One thing about us, we’re a real family. We’re a family that’ll chill, we come and go, but at the same time we know each other is alright ‘cause there’s always somebody around that’s around either one of us. So, you know, we may talk three times in one month, then the next month, we might talk two times a week. So you know, that just
fluctuates anyway. But, you know how that goes, you don’t ever be with your brothers.

MH2: Are any other members making moves? We’re hearing from you. We’re hearing a lot of new stuff from Ghostface. Anybody else moving forward?

R: Well, you know you got Meth working on his album, Deck doing a mixtape, he’s working on his stuff. Everybody’s being prepped on what they gotta do, but they’re just starting at the levels that they started at. We’re all big fish now so it’s like, at the end of the day, you can’t stop a man from going to seek the way that he feels he’s going to be. So everyone’s just been standing up on their own doing their thing.

MH2: Any upcoming collaborations?

R: You know that. You know the crew is on the record, a collabo, and I really wanted to keep that a secret, but you pulled it out of me ‘cause you sexy, you know what I mean, but there you go, you got it out of me. The Clan is on it. Y’all gonna like it.

MH2: Going a little off-topic, how do you feel about ODB’s passing?

R: I mean, you know, I think about him every day and it ain’t easy, but, you know, things happen. I think that it could’ve been any one of us. All I could think about now is just trying to do something and do it with his signature on it and, basically, get back to his family the best way that I could. That’s what it’s about. You know, us being able to just continue the movement we was doing and still support his family because he made this
along with us. We made this together. Actually, he’s the epitome of Wu, for real.

MH2: Are you involved with Wu Latino at all?

R: Yes, absolutely. We all in the same building. Wu Latino is just another branch of us just displaying our cultural styles with other music artists.

MH2: I know RZA is involved with a lot of the production and is working closely with them, but are you looking to collaborate with the artists?

R: Of course, I mean you know, its like this: anybody that comes into our establishment and on our business criteria, it’s like they have to be a part of us, we have to be a part of them because, number one, you’re wearing our badge. And, like I said, a lot of our fans are of different nationalities and I don’t want anyone to think that we forgot that. We respect everything and, at the end of the day, if you’re talented, you can be from wherever, and if you’re a die-hard fan and you know what it’s about, our door is always open to everything. Like I said, this is just one chapter of us doing it on a cultural level now.

MH2: A fan wants to know - can you do “Verbal Intercourse Pt. 2” with Nas on the new album?

R: Wow, tell him I would do that, but if Nas picks up his phone or whatever whatever. One thing about Nas is that Nas is a person that likes to get in touch with people. He don’t really like people to get too much in touch with him. So my whole thing is, I mean there ain’t nothing, no bad vibes with us, but if I could contact him, I’m sure he’s gonna represent for me. But if not, Rae gotta move on, you know. At the end of the day, I’m not gonna go hunt Nas down and get Nas points on something with me if Nas don’t wanna be heard or seen. So that’s the deal. But, when I get my hands on him and I talk to him, y’all gonna know. Either you’re gonna hear it up there or he missed that train. So for my man, it’s like, yo, I’d love to do it. You know
what i mean, Nas, that’s my son right there. He knows what time it is. I was the ***** that told him to put that verse on “Verbal Intercourse.” We’ll see what happens.

MH2: Thanks, Rae.

http://www.morehiphop.com/raekwonfeat.php

Common news:

Common Discusses His Silver Screen Dreams

Ryan Dombal reports:
As more and more hip-hop stars jump off the platinum train in search of mega-million opening weekends and inevitably awkward sex scenes, it's become increasingly clear that the rapper-turned-actor transition can be both fruitful (Mos Def, Tupac, Will Smith) and rotten (50 Cent, Bow Wow, Vanilla Ice).

So when Common dropped off Kanye West's white hot "Touch the Sky" tour to shoot a film a few months back, fan trepidation was understandable. Thankfully, his upcoming flick isn't exactly Roll Bounce 2: Keep 'Em Bouncin'. As the Chicago MC recently told Pitchfork, Smoking Aces-- directed by Narc's Joe Carnahan-- is a "dark comedy/ drama/ action movie based on a magician who becomes a mob guy who's wanted by everybody." Kind of like if David Copperfield and The Godfather had a kid and named it...um...Smoking Aces.

Alongside thespians including Jeremy Piven, Ray Liotta, Ben Affleck, and, uh, Ryan Reynolds, Com plays the magician/ mob guy's right hand man, Sir Ivy, who he described as "a warrior--that quiet killer." And, before you can say Soul Plane, the first-time film star is quick to spit out his assumed silver-spoon big-screen trajectory. "I went to two auditions for this, it's not like I was just given the role," he said. "They want the movie to have credibility. I came in as a new actor, not as a hip-hop artist trying to be an actor."

Drawing inspiration from award-season heavies like Phillip Seymour Hoffman, Jeffrey Wright, and Sean Penn, as well as films including The Usual Suspects, City of God, and Don't Be A Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood ("I like when the Muslim dude is like, 'Black princess, queen of the Nile, sister of the earth...tap that white girl over there for me'"), the distinguished MC generally feels happy with his debut performance.

Though there was one slight dilemma: "At one point, something happens to my eye in the movie so they needed me to wink my left eye and keep my right eye open...but I couldn't do it. Everybody else on the set could-- even in the crew." Tinky Winky jokes aside, Smoking Aces is set to burn big this summer.

While he's currently reading more scripts in hopes of landing another major role, Chi-town's finest isn't planning on hanging up his mic anytime soon. Banking once again on the peerless production prowess of Be brothers Kanye West and J Dilla, Common is tentatively aiming for a fall release for his next album, Finding Forever. And there's another bulletproof beat master on his wishlist: Dr. Dre. The pairing may not be as unlikely as you think-- both artists reside under the same Universal Music Group mega-umbrella. "I'm going to try to pull that label hook up eventually," said the rapper.

Hip-hop fans can also look out for a new Dilla-produced Common track called "So Far to Go", featuring r&b's own Howard Hughes, D'Angelo. "We did a remix for 'Go' but it ended up being a brand new song," explained Com. "It's a sexy type of song...we may put it on a re-release of Be or a soundtrack." A soundtrack to Smoking Aces, possibly? Sounds synergys-tastic!

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/06-01/11.shtml
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Post by: daigong on January 20, 2006, 10:04:03 AM
Cam'ron was always wack. Jay's never gonna retire.

Dre producing Common would be off the chain boyeeee!! good to see him releasing something so soon.

Now give us that Wu-Tang TOUR!!
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Post by: Masa on January 28, 2006, 10:32:14 AM
Jay-Z takes over
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3351/jaynas5fu.jpg)
Jay & Nas getting crunk :yep:

Jay-Z may go to work every day as the president and CEO of Def Jam Records, but he's still an MC at heart and occasionally in practice. So you can imagine what it's like for him to hear all the whispers in the wake of Cam'ron's recent dis record, "You Got It," where he levels a number of accusations at Jigga and even mentions Jay's girlfriend, Beyoncé.

Half the people in the streets are saying that Hov is too big to respond, that he's a CEO now, that he has nothing left to prove on the mic. After all, we've seen how he can slay opponents in battles. But the other half of the street talk says that Hov absolutely has to come back — Killa was just too disrespectful for Jay to let it ride.

It's a different story when it comes to the former rival Jay recently signed to Def Jam, Nas. The two are in business together and very possibly will be making music together — in fact, Hov says to bet on it. In an MTV News exclusive, Jigga tells Shaheem Reid about his current adversary's challenge, how his truce with Nas came about, and his reaction to Cam'ron's allegations about Jay's former business partner, Dame Dash.

MTV: We haven't even gotten through the first month of the year, and it's already starting — everybody is talking about you and Cam, you and Nas.

Jay-Z: Let's start off with the Nas sh--. I think that's more historical. I think this is Cam sh-- is gonna blow over once his album drops.

   Jay-Z and Nas, Madison Square Garden, New York, October 2005    
MTV: OK. When you and Nas appeared onstage together in October, I was expecting a deal to be announced soon after. But it's taken awhile.

Jay-Z: It took more to work out because he has another album left with Sony, so we just wanted to work with Sony. [The unusual deal finds the two labels collaborating on Nas' next two albums, the first of which is expected to be released in the fall.] We didn't want to make them look bad or nothing like that. It was a delicate deal. He's one of their most important artists.

MTV: Where is Nas at with you, personally and artistically?

Jay-Z: There's a respect there. With respect anything is possible. But you can't just sit down with somebody and be like, "We're best friends!" That's high school. But we're building with that. We kick it and everything, everything is cool. As far as where he's at artistically, I think he's ready to make the album of his life. He feels like he's in a position right now where he can do it. He can go all the way.

MTV: Obviously you guys had been talking before the concert — people even saw you two laughing and joking at Baseline Studios. What was the icebreaker that brought you together?

Jay-Z: That was Mark Pitts, who used to manage Biggie and now manages Nas. He arranged that meeting. He's a friend of mine and he came to me and said, "Will you sit down with Nas?" I said, "Yeah, no problem, of course," because like I said, there's always been a respect thing. I'm sure he probably went to Nas and said, "Would you sit down with Jay?" He probably Don King'd the whole thing. I didn't even ask him that. [He laughs.]

MTV: We talked to Memphis Bleek recently, and he said the concert in October was the first time he'd ever seen Nas in person. He also said that if he'd had the opportunity to sit and talk with Nas before the battle, there might not have been a battle. Do you feel the same way?

Jay-Z: Absolutely.

MTV: Is there a collaboration between you and Nas coming?

Jay-Z: We gonna be in the studio working, so we'll see what happens. I just don't want to do nothing forced. I been through that before with Best of Both Worlds [his two collaboration albums with R. Kelly]. I just don't want to do nothing just [to do it]. But I'm telling you, we're gonna be in the studio and I'm sure the vibe is going to be right. If I had to place some money on it — and I'm a betting man — I would bet on it.

MTV: Who would produce that? You have so much talent on your team: Just Blaze, Kanye.

Jay-Z: I'm going to my team first: I'm going to Kanye, Just. Then I'm reaching out: Timbaland, Dr. Dre, DJ Premier. I'mma give everybody a shot, new producers. I'm accustomed to working with new dudes who got that sound. Hopefully we'll find a new Kanye, a new Just. But I'm going to Just and Kanye first.

MTV: The question was about just one song, but it sounds like you two could do a whole album together.

Jay-Z: Nah, it ain't a [Jay and Nas] album.

MTV: What about a Jay album? It would make sense for you to come back out this year. It's been 10 years since your debut, Reasonable Doubt. [Jay's debut LP] dropped. All your collaborations last year were killer, and you said the retirement would be for two years — we have it on tape, you said "two years." Well, it's been two years — nobody can say you're not a man of your word.

Jay-Z: [He laughs.] We're [Def Jam] coming up with so much good sh-- at the start of the year — I ain't gonna lie, I don't want to miss it. We got so much going on, I'm focused on the team and making sure everybody is focused. I'm not even thinking about [putting out an album] right now. But for a second I was like "Damn, I can't let all this good sh-- pass me by. I want some."

   MTV: So let's get to Cam. You said you're torn about whether or not to respond to his dis record, "You Got It."

Jay-Z: That sh-- is trash.

MTV: Nobody was really surprised that Cam dissed you. From the outside looking in, it looked like the two of you never really vibed. Has there been animosity between you two for some time?

Jay-Z: I don't really think about it like that. I never thought about it as a problem. It's like, "You don't know me, I don't know you." It didn't cross my mind. I wasn't stuntin' it like, "I got a problem with Cam." I just didn't think about it.

   Jay-Z, Freeway, Cam'ron and Juelz Santana    
MTV: One of his accusations is that you blocked him from an executive position at Roc-A-Fella years ago, after Dame offered it to him. Do you think that what's led to this?

Jay-Z: He also said he wasn't gonna take the job because he wanted such-and-such amount of money. I really don't think it was anything. He has an album and a movie coming out and he wanted some attention. You can't say it's because I put the kibosh on the [Roc-A-Fella] presidency and then say, "I wasn't going to take the presidency because they didn't offer this amount of money."

MTV: There was so much speculation about who you were going to dis when you announced the "I Declare War" concert last year. Were the Dips people you were going to go at?

Jay-Z: When I went into the "I Declare War" sh--, I was half joking, half making a statement. Maybe I would have some fun. I didn't really have anybody in mind. It wasn't something I was really sitting home thinking about, plotting and planning. Then, later, I was like, [bringing Nas out] — that's way more interesting than pulling out the Summer Jam screen. I did that already.

MTV: Cam kind of put Dame in the middle of this because, on the song, he says he's riding on you for what you allegedly did to Dame. Then in an interview with Hot 97, he said that Dame told him you were looking for photos of the Dips and information to use at the "I Declare War" concert.

   Dame Dash and Cam'ron at Cam's press conference, 01.25.2006    
Jay-Z: To be honest with you, that's the most surprising thing. That [Cam dis record] is bullsh--, but [the situation with Dame], that is like, wow. It's shocking.

MTV: So were you looking for dirt on the Dips?

Jay-Z: I don't know about that. Like I said, I'm still in shock about [Dame]. That's just crazy to me.

MTV: Have you and Dame talked about it? Do you plan on talking about it with him?

Jay-Z: Nah. Nah. I'm still in shock, to be honest with you.

MTV: Earlier you said you were torn, but a lot of people have been getting at you: Cam, Jim Jones, Prodigy from Mobb Deep. Are we going to hear a "Takeover 2," where you just address everybody?

Jay-Z: Sh--. I'm not in that space. But at the end of the day, I'm a man first — and before I'm a CEO, I'm a MC. It is what it is. At the end of the day, I'm too far advanced for these dudes. [He laughs.]

http://www.mtv.com/bands/j/jay_z/news_feature_012506/index.jhtml
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Post by: Masa on February 11, 2006, 06:59:53 AM
Producer Jay Dee Dies of Liver Complications

Hip-Hop producer/MC Jay Dee, also known as J Dilla, has reported passed away earlier today (February 10) in a hospital in Los Angeles, due to liver complications.

The beatmaker (born James Yancey) has been sick for an unspecified amount of time. Last year at this time SOHH.com learned that Dilla was hospitalized after rumors were spreading that he was in a coma.

Dilla, who was a founding member of Slum Village and a member of A Tribe Called Quest's production team The Ummah, is best known for producing tracks for Busta Rhymes, Common, De La Soul, D'Angelo, Erykah Badu, and The Pharcyde.

Dilla has more recently worked with Ghostface Killah, Kanye West on Com's critically acclaimed album Be, as well as Champion Sound with fellow quirky producer Madlib.

Besides Donuts, Jay's latest album which was released earlier this week, he also released another solo LP, Welcome To Detroit, in 2001, and has another album dropping later this year on Stones Throw Records.

Longtime fan Pharrell of The Neptunes, has gone on record calling Dilla one of his "favorite producers of all time."

Jay Dee will be sorely missed. SOHH will be sure to provide you with more information as it becomes available.
http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/8330

Rest In Peace J. Dilla  :cry:
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Post by: Roary on February 12, 2006, 12:10:23 PM
R.I.P man!
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Post by: Masa on February 15, 2006, 09:24:05 AM
U-God, No Trivia

One of the founding members of the Wu-Tang Clan, U-God personifies what an emcee dreams to be. Rooted in the history of the culture, apart of something bigger then themselves and wiser through time and experiences. Though not all things in his career have been positive, business has created a rift between once good friends, lack of credit for contributions to the game and the shaft for other artists. Through it all, he may be sour, but he has a good natured intent at heart. Willing to put it all out there on his sleeve , U-God takes us inside the mind of "Mr. Xcitement."

First, I gotta say thank you, back when I had Shoalin Style on Playstation, I would kick ass with you, break everybody down.

Haha!

The album has been out, how do you feel it's been accepted by fans?

I'm in the clear man I don't really care, haha. You think I really care about what people think or how they feel about my music? I'm doing something new, I just put out two albums without Rza being involved in my album. That's a goal I set for myself. As far as me developing as an artist, time will tell. I'm not really concerned our situation as ya'll people in the media are concerned with. I'm not concerned with ratings in magazines, I'm not concerned with any of that shit cause a lot of ya'll dudes rate albums and albums come out successful so it's like your opinion is like an asshole, everyone's got one.

So if I were to say I liked it, which I did, would that be a bad thing?

Well, I'm saying, that's your opinion, I know a lot of people coming back and forth at me, with their opinions on the album, you just happened to be one of the open minded dudes, I guess. That's what it is. As far as the overall view of the album, it's selling, it's out there, it's out there jigglin'. About to put the video out, bout' to hit the waves, it's gonna hit whatever, whatever, whatever. As far as what it's gonna do, I don't know, but I'm not gonna stop, I'm still gonna put out albums, I'm getting ready to put out an EP in another couple of months, so I'm just gonna keep hitting ya'll. If you look at my track record, you can see my exposure with Wu-Tang hasn't been that great, it's not my fault, it's the person who was running that shit, which we all ready know who that is. I had a situation of, he's telling me he's responsible for my career, now he's telling me he don't wanna be responsible for my career, I had to take my career into my own hands.

By "he" do you mean Rza or someone else?

Naw, it's Rza, that's the one who's controlling my career. Rza is the one controlling everyone's career really. To me, he just didn't represent me good enough in my career. He's more or less worried about his own self or whatever he's fucking worried about. He wasn't worried about my shit, that's why dudes are out here like me doing it up right now.

So there are some problems with Wu-Tang on a business level, a person level?

It's a little bit of both, you got cats like Rae, Ghost and Meth and Genius who's always exposed. Then you got Me, Masta Killah and Deck, who ain't get no exposure. So if you take the track record, me and Deck, we the jump off dudes, we the dudes that lead, soon as you hear the track we come in the door but we're not getting as much exposure and right now in my career that's fucking me up cuz dudes don't really respect me like that. So then I go out and get my respect. Meanwhile, Rza, he wanna put out Sun of Man, he wanna put out these dudes, all these other dudes I don't even know from a fucking hole in the ground before the dude even came out with a record, but as time goes on I got to know a couple of my brothers Prodigal Sun and certain people I got respect for, but at the same time, he ain't making good decisions, to me, that's just my opinion. He ain’t make good decisions and he ain’t do certain things he ain’t supposed to had did. He said Wu-Tang was gonna drop an album and it was gonna go in a circle, ready to roll. But as you turn around and look at it, the same dudes kept coming with the same albums. Rae, Ghost, Meth, Rae, Ghost, Meth, Genius. The same dudes! I feel like I was not apart of it, I wasn't gonna be a part of doing what I want to do. We all came in this rap game to be starts, eat, feed our children. It didn't go that way. In some peoples mind I felt they didn’t want me to become a star. They don't want me to become this so a n**** did something, it's time to take my career in my own hands, so here I am, 10-13 years later starting my shit like I'm starting all over from scratch again. I'm not bitter, but I learned a lot of shit. I learned from a lot of situations where, I can't trust nobody with my shit no more. I can't look to them to blow me up. I don’t feel like he can do the job I can do by myself.

What tracks do you feel really proud of?

"Long Time Ago", "Hit Em' Up", "Talking to You","You Don't Want To Dance", I got a couple on there man. The crazy thing about it is, that's the only thing. The reason that album came out like this, I have no money, I have no money to pay for samples, haha. If I had money to pay for samples man, my album would have came out 10 times more treacherous then what it sounds like now. I'm missing about 8 songs on the album that I had to put back on there that shouldn't have made the album, but the one's with samples, I couldn’t put em on there. I had to take them off and put the ones with no samples on there. That's not my best, I would say. But that's some good shit on there, don't get me wrong

Definitely

I'm definitely adventurous with my music, the way I had it the first time would of shook motherfuckas. It would of been no questioning it. I had more Wu orientated tracks that I'm known for having. But this time I couldn’t ut em on there so I was like fuck it I gotta put something on there anyways. But I'm still holding on to 70 fucking songs.

The song "Don't Love The Drugs" is very personal, what can you tell me about the track and how it came to be?

That story I put in front of it basically explains the situation. My life, before I became a rapper, I used to sell narcotics, I'm a convicted felon from a narcotics and firearms possession, check my record, I ain't glorifying, I'm just saying I'm official, real with it, that life's behind me. But the dude that was sitting around getting me all the customers, that was my dog he used to come up to me everyday. "I love the drugs and the drugs love me." So, when I heard my man finally kicked the bucket, I fucked around and said "you know what? I'm gonna dedicate one of the songs for my man who on the block and used to run the drugs with me." Over time, it turned into a drug rehabilitating song, that's basically the message. I'm a narcotic abuser too, I smoke a lot of weed, I drink a little bit, but that's as far as I go, back in the day it wasn't that, I was hooked on drugs too. I got taken off the heavier drugs and I'm down to the lighter ones, I got one little drug bad habit, marijuana. I managed to get out of the ghetto with one little bad habit, that's to smoke weed. In comparison to all the other people who didn’t make it, who are hooked on heavier drugs.

I think my favorite track is "Heart of Stone" where you have a part that goes like "The streets is like Satan, I'm from the Hill / Cuz people keep hating, cuz I score at will / Don't fuck with new n****s, I figured they wired / I set 'em on fire, like the name was Pryor." I just thought that was hilarious but it inspired my next question. What new emcees do you listen to right now?

Common Sense, that's the only dude that I probably would listen to. He's got substance in his rhymes, I like a dude that rhymes with substance, not about how much money he's got, like this 50 Cent, heterosexual ass n****, running around with all this damn money and he mad at the world. You a rich dude, fuck you still mad at everybody for? He just made a hundred million dollars, what the fuck you mad for? What's going on? You got out the hood, you got shot 9 times and you got on with ya self and you still mad?

I see ya point, he's getting a little prissy.

See now it's getting to the point you're getting pussy with it. Come on dude, then you tryna take Wu's style and for your own G-Unit. If there wasn't no Wu-Tang there wouldn't be no fucking Cash Money, there wouldn't be no Roc-a-fella, there wouldn't have been none of this other shit if there never would of been Wu-Tang man. There wouldn’t be no Ruff Ryders, none of that if it without a fucking Wu-Tang, we the ones who gave birth to the groups and we don’t get no motherfucker love? Yea we go through our own hell and I'm pretty sure that them dudes that's down with them clicks, they're gonna go through there own shit too. It look good on the outside, but internally, there's some other shit going on, trust me.

Well you see it today, No Limit, gone, Ruff Ryders, done, Roc-a-fella split up, State Property, done, G-Unit, beef.

G-Unit got beef internally?

Well, Game was in it, then he left and defected.

That was on some other shit though that we probably wont know until they fall apart. Everybody has it, what I learned is, when you in ya hay-day, ya in ya prime, you got the world in ya hands, people have a tendency to give n****s they ass to kiss. That's what Wu-Tang did and we learned out lesson from that, I just keep seeing the same dudes doing the same shit over and over again. They coming out of retirement, why they coming out of retirement? When you had the Roc popping and all that shit, it was all about you. But as soon as ya’ll n****s split, here come the sharks, to bite ya’ll n****s asses and pull you apart now. You trying to fight the forces that be by ya self now. It’s like, when dudes is on top, dudes need to be a little more humble wit themselves because after the top, ain’t nothing but going downwards man. Not many motherfuckers can stick around like us, even though we lost a member God rest Dead Dirty, we still here dog, we still here, the world is looking for us to come back to take this shit over again but if we don’t get our shit internally right and spiritually right, it ain’t gonna happen for us neither and that’s the shit I’m tryna say to my man Rza but that’s another story and that’s another time and after I finish having a little sit down and talk with the dude, come get another interview and I’ll tell you how it went. Haha!

It's been said that Wu Tang has been the best group in rap's history, consistently bringing good songs, will there ever be another group album?

As far as Wu-Tang, we’re trying to get that together now dog, I wanna get another album out. Me, I don’t like to lose, you talking to a motherfucker who’s a very bad competitor. I don’t like to lose that’s why I cant stand the fact of how my career is right now, that’s why im soured by a lot of shit. At the same time, yea we’re gonna try and get together another album, but , like I said ya man Rza, he’s gotta do a lot of things, he’s got to do a lot of soul searching. I done found myself, he has to find himself, he gotta realize who he really is because he be hiding behind a lot of dope dudes and I don’t think he knows who the fuck he is right now. Yea, he’s a 5%er, he wanna talk about he’s G-O-D an all this fly shit, but really, internally, I don’t think he knows who the fuck he is. Somewhere down the line he lost himself through all this shit, at one time he knew who he was. It’s easy to get ya spirit lost, in the midst of confusion, media, jealousy , envy, lust, pain and hate and egos and pride, you gonna lose yourself, you don’t know who you are no more. Then you gotta go back and try to find yourself in the midst of all that shit.

You mentioned being a 5%er, you’re still affiliated right? You ain’t quit did you?

We all 5%er, we ain’t never quit, you born black motherfucker. You are who you are.

Well you mentioned he was kinda gassed up saying he was G-O-D and all that.

Naw, see what I was saying about him being a 5%er I mean, he knows the truth about the world, but like I was saying, then you lose touch with yourself! I don’t care if he studies 120 degree lessons and knows that shit back and forth and you know how the White Man kidnaped up and brung us here in slavery you know somewhere down the line you lose yourself! In the midst of all that. You understand what I’m saying?

Yea, I understand.

I wanna say something, I don’t like talking to reporters man cause I can say something very fucking important and when I read the article the motherfucker come out twisted on some other shit cause they thought it was this and they thought it was that and it wasn’t right. That’s the reason I don’t like doing a lot of interviews with dudes. Cause they all twist my words and have me like the fucking villain.

Well I’ll tell you now, you check out this site, it’s my word, we do it quote for quote, no bullshit, this is it, nothing changed.

Well I’m happy you said that because I’m not saying the white dudes is 5%, cause once you become a 5%, you can’t deny knowledge, knowledge is with you forever. You can get lost along the way, a person can lose himself, they can become rich, powerful and famous, but they way you became powerful and famous is this. I’m not saying that’s what happened to Rza, I’m saying if you became this powerful and famous by stabbing n****s in the back and doing all this underhanded shit, by the time you turn around you ain’t got no more friends, you ain’t got no people who love you, you missing a lot of other shit, somewhere down the line, you lost yourself. You understand what I’m saying?

I do, I get what you’re saying

I’m not saying that’s what happened to Rza, I’m just giving you an example of how a person can lose themselves. You can have all the money in the world and be lonely as fuck, why? Because you sold your soul to get that and along the way you lost all your good friends, all the n****s that supported you and believed in you. Same thing with Ray Charles, remember in the movie, his man was taking from him because he fucked around and gave the other n**** better positions than him and this dude been down with the n**** since day motherfuckin’ one? He just gave up on him, that’s exactly what I’m saying about how a person can lose himself along the struggle.

http://www.nycnn.com/node/155
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Post by: Masa on February 18, 2006, 11:22:02 AM
"Well, he's done it again. Fishscale is yet another amazing but impossible-to-sell Ghostface album. It's the weirdest thing; he talks about how his career isn't popping off like it should, how he has Def Jam behind him now, how he's ready to go out and work himself to the bone promoting this thing, and then he goes and makes an album full of claustrophobically discordant coke-rap that will immediately scare away anyone who doesn't already love him. Only maybe three or four of the songs on Fishscale have actual hooks, and we've already heard two of them, "Back Like That" and "Be Easy." He's enlisted MF Doom for four or five tracks, and he's taken the absolute weirdest stuff Doom had to offer, dizzy and stormy and cluttered things. There's an amazingly strained and urgent Just Blaze banger, just a mind-bendingly great song, but it's not going to get Ghost's crazy ass on 106 & Park anytime soon. His one concession is "Back Like That," which will probably get some rotation just like "Tush" and that Bulletproof Wallets song with Carl Thomas, but it's not going to turn him into a star overnight.

Other than that one song, Fishscale is Ghost's most aggressively weird album since Supreme Clientele. The frenzied lyrical free-association has almost disappeared (though there is this one insane song about being underwater I'll talk about later), but it's musically his most dense and fiery work, and there's a good chance it'll end up being my favorite album of the year. The entire Wu-Tang Clan appears altogether on one song, the apocalyptic banger "Nine Milli Brothers," all of them getting a couple of bars (including a posthumous ODB), and all of them sounding great. An uncharacteristically low-key Raekwon shows up on a few tracks, as does a wildly reanimated Cappadonna ("AKA the cabriver" he says at one point) and a quickly improving Trife. Ghost's son SG, who rapped a bit at Ghost's October BB King's show, gets a verse; he sounds like an average young NY mixtape rapper, which is more than anyone could've expected. And beyond that, there are no guest rappers, just Ghost going hard throughout, lovingly describing crack-selling memories and women standing at bus stops and, like, child abuse (the Jay Dee track "Strap" finds him nostalgic about getting his ass beat).

The album flows beautifully, the one weak track ("Charlie Brown") buried near the end and "Be Easy" and "Back Like That" working perfectly in context. One song, "Big Girl," is a slightly dubious story-track about telling women to get their act together and stop getting high, but it's told with enough humane grace that it doesn't sound condescending, at least not on first listen. The first two tracks, gun-talk memories both, are nearly as strident as "Run." Other, later tracks are simply gorgeous, built from the same dusky soul samples he used through much of The Pretty Toney Album. On first listen, it seems pretty much predestined that Ghost is going to remain a critics' favorite and nothing more; that's fine with me, even if it isn't fine with him.

Keep in mind, though, that I've only heard this album once, and I heard it last night at a listening party. I'd been avoiding these things since I moved to New York; this was my first. The idea always kind of grossed me out: record companies so paranoid about music critics bootlegging their shit (whatever) that they refuse to send out promo copies and instead invite everyone into a studio so they can schmooze around and half-listen to the album while it plays on really expensive speakers. It turned out to be really fun, though, all full of writers (many of whom I know) and Def Jam intern-types, everyone sitting on really uncomfortable metal folding chairs and crowding around tiny white tables, eating free food (slightly stale fried coconut-shrimp and some kind of really spicy Jamaican chicken-wings) and drinking free booze (Bacardi with pineapple juice is nasty; Bacardi with blue Powerade is amazing). You go through metal detectors and through hallways full of posters of Beyonce and Aerosmith and Harry Connick, Jr. and Beyonce again, into a room with red lights and crinkled-up strips of cloth hanging on the walls. The best part was the DVD they showed Ghostface explaining all the songs. Apparently the artists often show up to these things, but Ghost was on the Wu-Tang tour, so he taped this thing instead. It worked out great; he wouldn't have opened up much if he was looking this room full of people in the face, but he did when he was talking into a camera: "Please people, just listen, listen carefully ... I don't want y'all checking y'all cell phones, ordering pizza and shit." He went into a surprising amount of detail about putting songs together: "If there's a wack n**** out of four n****s, usually you'll put that n**** (long pause) third." In one truly stunning moment, he talked about the album's final song, which is about being underwater, seeing mermaids and Spongebob and the necklace from Titanic, everyone eventually going to a mosque and praying. Just hearing this song is a total mindfuck; seeing Ghostface explain it is even more so. So maybe all this stuff made me like the album more than I would've otherwise, but I don't know. It's pretty fucking great."

PROPS: VILLAGE VOICE

Ghost is that dude :lol:
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Post by: Masa on February 18, 2006, 11:33:51 AM
"Ghostface Killah's Fishscale comes out on March 28 on Def Jam, and as the flashy king of slanguage tells it, he and Island/ Def Jam chairman L.A. Reid did not meet under the best circumstances but they have a relationship that works.

"He caught me in the hallway barkin'," Ghost said recently in New York. "N---as on the streets was telling me that they didn't know my last album, Pretty Tony, was out. I wasn't barking on L.A., but I was barking on [some employees]. Reid heard the commotion, came out of his nearby office and asked Ghostface what the problem was and how could he help.

"I had to tell him, 'I'm a live n---a. They treating me like a bird," Ghost explained. " 'I'm a legend. This is what I do. This is how I eat.' "

"He was like 'Yo, I'm new here too. I'm trying to make it work, too. But I'm glad you can come out and talk to me because that's what I need,' " Ghostface continued. "He likes to have a relationship with the artists, and that was the best thing any executive ever [said]. Then when I started visiting him on the one-on-one tip, he made a n---a feel like family. "

Pete Rock, MF Doom and the late J Dilla are among the Fishscale producers that Ghost hasn't worked with before.

"I didn't get no tracks from RZA," Ghost said. "RZA was doing his thing and I took it like I'm messing with a bunch of new n---as. I had RZA all my life."

Even though there are no RZA beats, Ghost said the whole Wu-Tang Clan, including ODB, are all featured on the Fishscale LP. Ghost's next album, on the other hand, might just be a collaborative effort between him and Doom. The two met while Ghost was on the Projekt Revolution tour with Linkin Park. Someone slipped Ghost a MF Doom beat CD, only it wasn't labeled MF Doom — it had the mysterious Metal Fingers name.

"I didn't know who Metal Fingers was," Ghost remembered. "So my manager was like, 'I'm gonna find him,' and it turned out to be MF Doom.

"He's a soul baby. He loves good loops," the hip-hop Ironman said. "Him, Mad Lib, they all in that camp. I got some beats from Mad Lib too, but I didn't use them yet. But Doom, he's a underground warrior. They love him for his beats, lyrics, everything. Being in the studio, he knows what I like. We are almost the same n---as. We are almost the same soul babies. I like to be different. I like a few beats n---as is putting out now, but I like old hip-hop. He's got a lot of that sh-- in his box and in his heart and soul."

Ghost says he's already recorded five or six records for the duet album with Doom and plans to do at least three more records with him for the project. There is no word yet on which label will release the album or when it will be out."

From MTVNEWS.COM
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Post by: Masa on February 19, 2006, 10:17:13 AM
"I just came back from hearing the new Ghostface album and shit was bananas. All ya'll loyal Ghost fans will not be disappointed. This is on some "Supreme Clientele" shit people.

He's got a joint with Just Blaze called "The Champion" with a sample from Rocky - yes, Rocky. Blaze intros the track with Roc's coach Mickey yellin’ and spitting his signature shtick ( in the vein of "I want you to eat lightning and shit thunder) followed by some Blaze ridiculousness. Amazing.

You also get your first taste of MF Doom and Ghost's chemistry. Over Doom's comic book inspired loops Ghosts imagination is allowed to run wild. This means Spongebob is slappin' bitches while riding around in a Bently, underwater, and all that. You get the point.

On top of that there’s two dope J Dilla (RIP) tracks, both from Dilla’s Donuts (“One for Ghost” and “Hi”) and two Pete Rock beats. One of the Pete Rock joints, probably my favorite beat on the album, (called “All in the Family”) has Ghost rhyming alongside his son, and Raekwon. (Yes they are keeping Wu Tang money all in the family).

Don’t be fooled by Ghost’s new single... the album is ill. I can’t wait to really hear it in my headphones."

http://blogs.sohh.com/nyc/archives/2006/02/first_look_ghostfaces_fishscal.html

Fishscale is starting to look insanely good :shock:
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Post by: Masa on February 20, 2006, 09:06:25 AM
"With fans and rappers alike complaining about how New York has lost its stronghold over the game, it seems like there’s no better time to drop a follow-up to a classic that helped define an era long-gone. Raekwon is about take it there going full circle to create Only Built 4 Cuban Linx 2 and is fully aware of what’s riding on this decision. Due for a spring release, Rae says it’s 97% done—with 103% to put on top of it—and will help re-vamp the Wu-Tang Movement.

While the jury’s still out as to whether Dr. Dre or Ghostface will contribute, Rae has his reasons for maintaining secrets. Raekwon tells AllHipHop.com about the album-in-the-making, as well as his reaction to the last two, ill received works. Raekwon may be a man without rhyme books, but he’s got lots of thoughts.You were warned the first time around that the Chef would be cooking up all types of marvelous things …

AllHipHop.com: Where’d you get the idea to come out with [Only Built 4 Cuban Linx as] a purple tape? I thought it was a defect when I got mine.

Raekwon: Only because being that we from the block, we was finagling in certain situations where the things that you was dealing with had to be separated from what everybody else was dealing with. I always ran with that as one of my traits in anything I do to separate myself from others. Back when we used to sling and do what we do, we would have certain color caps [to viles]. Certain color caps resembled certain people that were doing s**t different than everybody else. It’s like, “Yo, this is our color. Anybody step on this color, you got an issue at that time.” So I decided with my music, this is my world—this is my thing and I wanna put a color on it just so everybody will know. That’s how the purple tape even came in existence. I think I had wanted a red one at first and then I thought how somebody else had did it already. I made it like that specifically….

AllHipHop.com: I don’t think tapes are still made now so are you going to do something similar with Cuban Linx 2, even though it’s probably going to only be on CD?

Raekwon: We definitely want to keep it in the same formula, the same brand-style of it, because people respected that. But now, like you said, nobody don’t really handle tapes—I don’t even think they make tapes no more. So, trust me—if they made tapes, we would do it again. But I’m really shooting for the CD to be purple because this is a traditional thing.

AllHipHop.com: There was something of a storyline in Linx, especially in the beginning with you and Ghost trying to get out of the game after one last run. Is there going to be anything like that this time?

Raekwon: When we had did that, we did that only according to how we were rhyming at that time. A storyline just came in like that because we like to talk on our albums, we like to make people laugh. It was just showing you some hustling n***as with big dreams but they just ain’t got no money yet. This one would definitely fit that criterion to a degree, but at the same time, now we on. The album is definitely gonna have that feeling and that talk that everybody like to hear.

AllHipHop.com: Yeah, the Wu interludes are infamous.

Raekwon: When you listen to Wu albums, we always gotta have some kind of funny s**t on there because to me that makes an album. See, one thing people gotta remember too is that we make albums. We don’t just put ten songs together—we try to make you throw the CD in and don’t touch that motherf**er for the next hour and a half.

AllHipHop.com: There’s been speculation as to whether Ghost is going to be on the album like how he was before?

Raekwon: That right there, I wanna surprise people. We’re not gonna rewrite the whole me and Ghost theory. But Ghost will be on the project, though. He already put his word, and he takes it very seriously. We don’t know what’s going to happen right now. I ain’t gonna sit here and say yeah he’s gonna be all over it. And I ain’t gonna say that he’s not gonna be on it. I know what it is, but I want y’all to still be in suspense. It’s like going to the movies; you can’t tell everybody everything.

AllHipHop.com: non-Wu guests?

Raekwon: I may have one special guest, or if not one, I’ll say two and we outta there. On the last one it was just Nas on it, so on this one it may be somebody else that we all really love and respect like that. And it might be somebody that you would never think, either. He might not even be from New York. All I’m saying is that I can’t bite off but too much on this album.

AllHipHop.com: It’s also good timing because people in New York are hungering for the spot back in Hip-Hop.

Raekwon: This is the season for the hard s**t. Hip-Hop seems like it’s going back in that direction—at least New York Hip-Hop. New York is the backbone of Hip-Hop. We the rough edge, the underworld of the conceptual ideas and things that go on in Hip-Hop.

AllHipHop.com: So, people have been waiting for this like you said, but now what about the pressure that comes with trying to do a Part 2 to such a classic album?

Raekwon: I mean, to me, it’s nothing. I just look at it like this: “Rae, you at your best with your rhyming game, you got a good ear for music, for beats and all that, so just knit it as if you was a sewer and you was sewing. The bottom line is to just tear it up.” I got a lot of fans that believe in me and know what I do, so I really try not to sit there and worry about if it’s gonna be better or if it’s gonna be worse [than Cuban Linx].

AllHipHop.com: Where do you get ideas of rhymes? Are you in the booth coming up with stuff or are you all the time just writing down…

Raekwon: No. See, one thing about me, the kind of MC that I am, I’m more or less an MC who vibes off of feeling and music. I’m not the type of MC that just be sitting around writing all day and having stacks of books. Raekwon the Chef never ever owned a [rhyme] book! If anything I owned a bunch of papers or folders, but I’ll write on anything—paper cups, plastic plates, pizza boxes—anything just to get it out real quick. I never owned a book, so I think that was one my gifts. Just to do it like that.

AllHipHop.com: There is a whole specific language, a hierarchy, and a movement to the Wu-Tang Clan. That seems similar to what the Diplomats are doing. However, you guys seemed grounded on the 5 Percent knowledge…

Raekwon: Everybody in the game got a piece of something that we said or that we did, and that’s respect. I got a lot of respect for a lot of teams that play the field, ‘cause it came from the field. By us having the 5% knowledge that we have, people should have took more of that into consideration. When we come across positive or come across emotional in our rhymes, it’s not because we tried to go somewhere else; it’s just because this is what our duty is supposed to be. You listen to a lot of dudes, and all they talk about is guns and coke and your kids is listening to that. At least out of the Wu, you could get that—cause we know that, we been there and done that—but at the same time, we could give you more. I think a lot of people weren’t ready to accept somebody constantly telling them, “I’m teaching you.”

AllHipHop.com: The Internet and bloggers play a major role in criticism and reacting to albums. What’s your opinion on the advancement?

Raekwon: The internet is a killer, too. If you sit there and let that control you… oh, man—it’ll f**k you over. When I did my album, Immobilarity, that was the first time I had the heart to do an album alone. I never did an album before; I was always team-playing and being a soldier and standing in line. So when I did that, I felt good about the album, I felt like as a real dude and as a consumer and a critic, I don’t feel I let anybody down. I was rhyming on there. The beats wasn’t all RZA, but that don’t mean that the beat wasn’t sounding good. When you deal with certain dudes in the business, [it’s only natural] you look for more growth out of them. Like in my hood, n***as say they dion’t really like Nas’ [Street’s Disciple], but they like Nas. So they could respect it, but they didn’t necessarily have to like it. I have dudes come up to me like, “Yo, they slept on Lex Diamond, [because it] ain’t get no marketing.” And it’s cool, but it makes you think about where Hip-Hop is headed.

AllHipHop.com: Where is that?

Raekwon: I think it will come around and be a time where everybody start looking at each individual for what it is. It’s just about having the right people really understanding what the verse is about. You got a younger generation that don’t know nothing about what you did. All you know is you keep hearing a bunch of people talking about Cuban Linx this and next thing you know, they wanna be biased of whatever else you may have to offer.

AllHipHop.com: Did you take the criticism to heart, that you received on Immobilarity and The Lex Diamond Story?

Raekwon: I ain’t gonna front - I was a little discouraged at the fact that nobody didn’t understand the fact that Rae did it on his own this time. But on the same note, you can never please everybody. I get a lot of love in the street. I try to keep a balance in my own head. But what does hurt me is when people say, “Yo, I never heard it.” How you ain’t hear it? If you a big fan of me… All you can do is look at that individual for what he’s done and give him the gratification he deserves, when it’s time to give it to him.

AllHipHop.com: That moment is projected to arrive with Cuban Linx 2. How do you feel about the potential impact?


Raekwon: I feel like it’s gonna bring dudes to a turning level of their careers. I think sometimes when we do get together and we work on something that’s such a high velocity of what people want, it kind of makes us stronger, better to knock it out. But when we do it, we do it with ease; it’s nothing to it, it’s just really more or less about that production. When you playing with a person like RZA, you gotta know everything about RZA before you even try to act like you accept what he’s doing, or don’t accept it. You gotta know the kind of producer he is; he’s not your Kanye, he’s not your Premier, he’s RZA. He’s really the Abbott. We named him the Abbott for a reason because his style—his s**t is so much advanced on music and just sound period, [and that] one of his mentors is Marley Marl.

AllHipHop.com: So Marley influenced RZA. Who would you say influenced you?

Raekwon: I grew up in the 80s listening to all that and you had cats like Rakim, Slick Rick and Kane…Biz, G Rap, even Kurtis Blow to a degree with some of the things he was saying and doing back then."

http://www.allhiphop.com/features/?ID=1327
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Post by: daigong on February 20, 2006, 09:16:39 AM
Oh man! I wanna cop Rae + Ghost's new shit ASAP. fuck the rest! U-God has lots to prove ... but best believe Wu is gonna come back stronger than before!

And yo. I went to get Kardinal Offishall's autograph Friday (http://www.miumu.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3172&mforum=jpmx) so glad he be touring (spring he said) cuz he hasn't had time to promote his CD with that GD reality show he's doing. judge for future VJs.
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Post by: Masa on February 20, 2006, 03:38:22 PM
Nas On 'Partnering With' Jay-Z: 'I'm Ready To Go — I'm Ready To Kick Ass'

"Simply put, Nas and Jay-Z together are a "threat."

That's how the Queensbridge rhyme savant explains some of his peers' criticism of his signing to the Jay-Z-led Def Jam label. Since the deal was announced, MCs such as Fat Joe, Cam'ron and

"I'm one of the most crucified artists in the game, thank you! This is what challenges me, what makes me go on." — Nas

50 Cent have publicly questioned how Nas could sign with a onetime foe who had an affair with the mother of his daughter and talked about it on wax (see "Jay-Z Calls Cam's Dis Track 'Trash' And A Cry For Attention").

"That would be small-minded," Nas said recently while sitting next to Jay. "That's what I want people to understand. Me coming over to Def Jam, I'm bringing something to the table. I'm equivalent to any of the artists that are there. I'm ready to go — I'm ready to kick ass.

"The movement is bigger than what someone says about Nas for the moment," he added. "I've always had someone say something about me. I'm one of the most crucified artists in the game, thank you! This is what challenges me, what makes me go on. When people have negative things to say, it's all good."

"We're thinking bigger than what was said on the record," Jay added. "We're thinking bigger than what people perceive this as. We're thinking as responsible, grown men. I know that's not popular, especially in the state of hip-hop right now, but that's what it is. We've been chosen as leaders. We have to lead. We can't follow people's perception of what this union is. I didn't sign Nas, I partnered with Nas. You can't sign an artist of Nas' stature, you can only partner with him."

As Nas' new partner, Jay definitely wants to give his input on God's Son's Def Jam debut, a project both MCs feel could be Nas' best album ever. Hov wants to surround Nas with a circle of top-ranking talent; he'd also like to see the usually reclusive Nas out at the clubs a lot more than he has been in years, just to hear what's going on and vibe.

"A lot of folks don't really know what it takes to put your heart and soul into this thing and work it out there," Nas said. "To go out there and put your face in the public eye. I personally don't like a lot of limelight. It comes with the territory."

Nas said that production on his album has already begun.

"It's starting now," he said. "I'm really excited about it. I'm listening to Hot 97, [Power] 105. I'm listening to stations in Atlanta, I'm listening to XM Radio. I'm doing the research on the whole thing, and I'm real excited about this move. Coming from my last record with 'Bridging the Gap,' the joint with my dad, I knew I went left, so I couldn't wait to come back" (see "Family Affair: Nas Gets Down With Jazz-Musician Dad In New Video").

"I knew whatever I did next would be a colossal movement," he added. "Now I have everything I need to push me to make the best album I ever made."

Will the new music being generated by Nas inspire Jay-Z to put out his own LP this year? Although he hasn't totally ruled it out, Jigga is still saying no — as of now. For his part, Nas says Hov should definitely put out at least one more record.

"Personally, Jay, I feel like you gotta come back out," Nas said, turning toward Jay and addressing him. "That's just me. Because if me and him don't [keep putting out music], you leave a lot of people out there that's like, 'What's going on?' "

There is no release date on the new Nas album, but he and Hov say to expect it sometime this fall."

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1524319/02142006/jay_z.jhtml?headlines=true

MTV All Eyes on Jay-Z & Nas
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http://rapidshare.de/files/13583463/jayzandnas.wmv.html
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Post by: Masa on February 23, 2006, 01:14:24 PM
My all time favorite mc has finally signed a deal! :w00t:

Pharoahe Monch Album On The Way Via New Deal With Steve Rifkind's New Label

Pharoahe Monch has joined forces with Loud Records/SRC founder Steve Rifkind to release Monch's first album since his 1999 debut Internal Affairs, on Rawkus Records. Pharaohe Monch will release his highly anticipated album, Desire, on a new unnamed label Rifkind has founded and runs, after a bidding war which is also distributed by Universal. A bidding war for Pharoahe's new album was reportedly between Sony, Bad Boy and Eminem's Shady Records. Rifkind eventually signed the rapper after hearing what he dubbed "the album of the year."

"On a creative and business level, I've never been this excited," Monche said in a statement. "I've had the time to work on this album, and being a perfectionist, it's really come to fruition. It's very soulful, very gospel, a fresh, new sound for me. It shows so much growth spiritually, almost as if I'm a new artist. When I play the record for people, that's how they hear it."

Pharoahe Monch was a member of the renowned group Organized Konfusion. After releasing his critically acclaimed album Internal Affairs, label politics slowed down the rapper's career. Rawkus signed a distribution deal with MCA and later, the label was absorbed into Geffen. Monch recorded an album for Geffen but the recording was never released as the rapper attempted to free himself of the Geffen deal.

"There's an element of obvious patience, but that's just who I am," he said. "I've learned that it was best for me to wait for the best situation. Everything happens for a reason. This is my expression and creation. I know people are waiting for this album, and I respect my fans enough to put out quality music." The first single from the album will be the white labeled "When the Gun Draws," which will be accompanied by a short film. "It's a concept record," said the rapper. "About life from the perspective of a bullet." The first commercial single will be "Push." No release date was available for the album as of press time.

http://allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=5391
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Post by: Masa on February 24, 2006, 08:08:30 AM
Jay Dee's last days

The untold story of the noted Detroit hip-hop producer's drive to make music in the face of life-threatening illness

February 23, 2006

BY KELLEY L. CARTER

FREE PRESS MUSIC WRITER

It was near the end of summer 2005, and James Yancey was sitting in a hospital bed at Cedars-Sinai in Los Angeles.

He couldn't walk. He could barely talk. And after spending most of the winter and spring in the hospital, receiving treatment for a rare, life-threatening blood disease and other complications, he had been re-admitted.

His body was killing him, and little could be done about it.

It was a grim prognosis, but it wasn't deterring him from tinkering with his electronic drum machine.

In the sterile white hospital room, the tools of his trade surrounded him: turntables, headphones, crates of records, a sampler, his drum machine and a computer, stuff his mother and friends from L.A.-based record label Stones Throw had lugged to his hospital room. Sometimes his doctor would listen to the beats through Yancey's headphones, getting a hip-hop education from one of the best in the business.

Yancey tampered with his equipment until his hands swelled so much he could barely move them. When the pain was too intense, he'd take a break. His mother massaged his fingertips until the bones stopped aching.

Then he'd go back to work. Sometimes he'd wake her up in the middle of the night, asking to be moved from his bed to a nearby reclining chair so he could layer more hard-hitting beats atop spacey synths or other sampled sounds, his creations stored on computer. Yancey told his doctor he was proud of the work, and that all he wanted to do was finish the album.

Before September ended, he'd completed all but two songs for "Donuts," a disc that hit stores on Feb. 7, his 32nd birthday.

Three days after its release, he died.

Yancey, better known as Jay Dee or J Dilla, is acknowledged as the father of the Detroit hip-hop sound. Some people call him a creative genius, and his streetwise but soulful and musically tight production style influenced some of the world's biggest rap and R&B stars, from Kanye West to Janet Jackson to Erykah Badu, many of whom he worked with.

He was a champion of Detroit's urban music scene, and in the mid-'90s, when hip-hop was dominated by the East and West coasts, he put a distinct Motor City sound on the national map -- and provided inspiration to then-unknowns like Eminem, D12 and his own group, Slum Village.

As his reputation rose, he persisted with his distinct connection to the musical underground, serving as a sort-of people's champion of the non-commercial hip-hop scene.

Just as he was poised for even greater fame, he got sick -- a medical odyssey that would put him in and out of hospitals for the better part of four years, racking up staggering medical bills.

The instigator was a rare and incurable blood disease, but the complications were many, including recurring kidney failure, severe blood-sugar swings, immune system issues, heart trouble and what might have been lupus.

While rumors swirled in hip-hop circles that he was sick, the extent -- and specifics -- of his health concerns were largely kept secret. Yancey was not the type who wanted others to know about his problems. Even some of his closest friends didn't know what he did: Death was soon coming.

Since his death, fans have gathered to mourn his passing and celebrate his legacy, a mood that will continue today at a public Detroit memorial service. And for the first time, those who saw Yancey's struggles first-hand, including his mother and doctor, are talking about his final days.

January 2002: Something's wrong

Yancey first realized something was wrong in January 2002 after coming back from a gig in Europe, two years after Slum Village's first national release, "Fantastic Vol. 2." Instead of going to his home in Clinton Township, he went to his parents' house on Detroit's east side, complaining that he had a cold or the flu.

It was unusual behavior. Even as a kid he'd liked his privacy, but that night he needed to be with his mother, Maureen Yancey, hoping that she could somehow make it all better.

He was sick to his stomach. He had chills. And after he lay down, he said he felt worse.

His mother took him to the emergency room at Bon Secours Hospital in Grosse Pointe. His blood platelet count was below 10. It should have been between 140 and 180. Doctors told his mother they were surprised that he was still walking around.

Soon, a specialist from Harper Hospital would diagnose a thrombotic thrombocytopenic pura or TTP, a rare blood disease that causes a low platelet count. Abnormal cells were eating away the good cells. Doctors told him there was no cure or direct treatment.

Yancey stayed in the hospital for about a month and a half. Within weeks he had to go back for the same thing -- a trend that would continue for more than four years.

Despite the looming health problems, Yancey moved to L.A. about two years after he was diagnosed, determined to make music. Some things went well, including a musical collaboration and friendship with the rapper Common, who became his roommate. But he began to feel worse, and he met with a blood specialist who told him that in order to live, he'd have to endure medications and hospital treatments.

In November 2004, Yancey called his mother and asked if she'd come out to L.A. to help take care of him.

Disease leads to kidney failure

Yancey went into the hospital shortly after his mom arrived, and he stayed until March 2005. His mother, who slept at the hospital, never left his side. She began to take the reins of her son's health issues, which included mounting bills.

He had to take anti-immune and anti-inflammation steroids. A medication designed to suppress his immune system gave him high blood sugar, and he was taken off it.

The TTP also led to kidney failure. His kidneys would shut down, spring back, shut down again. The three-times-a-week, four-hour dialysis treatments were sometimes so painful he had to be unhooked from the machine.

Because he was lying in bed for long periods, his legs swelled, making it difficult to walk. He needed a wheelchair or a walker or cane -- the latter he used when he could get out to the music store to look for records, or to a nearby fruit market to get juice or a 7-Eleven Slurpee, a treat. Sometimes he would forget how to swallow and would have to relearn. He lost 50% of his weight.

"A lot of times, just when we would get ready to get going, he would get sick again," Maureen Yancey said. "He was so tired of going back. It was very sedentary. Just watching him, it was sad at times. He couldn't do what he wanted to."

In 2005, weeks before his 31st birthday, doctors diagnosed something that looked like lupus, a chronic inflammatory disease that can affect the skin, joints, blood and kidneys. His doctor said it was probably what contributed to the low platelet count and the frequent swelling and pain in his hands.

Sure, those long hospital stays had plenty of undesirable consequences. But it was the inability to touch the music, to pick it out of records bins, twist it and create it, that made those long stays feel never-ending.

The hospital bills mount

Even though he had insurance through the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists, the cost to keep Yancey alive was steep, and he had to pay much of it himself.

Bills for the lengthy hospital stays topped $200,000 each time. Dialysis three times a week cost $1,800. Each once-a-week shot to raise his hemoglobin cost $1,800. He had dozens of prescriptions -- $700, $900 or even $2,000 out of pocket per bottle. He had large co-pays -- one was $6,700 a week -- because he had to see specialists.

His mother, who today gets medical invoices almost daily, has yet to total up the costs. His plan was to make more music -- he had a project lined up with Will Smith -- to pay the bills and leave money to take care of his Detroit-based daughters, Ja-mya Yancey, 4, and Ty-monet Whitlow, 5.

To pay the bills, Maureen says, she'll work the rest of her life if she has to.

A Detroit friend steps in

Mike Buchanan, better known as DJ House Shoes, first met Yancey in the mid-'90s at Street Corner Music in Beverly Hills. House Shoes worked there and Yancey was a wanna-be music producer on the hunt for albums.

After Yancey moved to L.A., their friendship waned. In early 2005, House Shoes heard the rumor that Yancey was in a coma and might not pull through. He booked a flight to L.A. and packed a bunch of CDs -- random beats CDs, a mix-tape CD that House Shoes had recently released and anything else he thought Yancey would want to hear.

He stayed a week, spending every day in the hospital with him.

His friend looked different -- he was smaller and quieter. House Shoes struggled, not wanting to pry too much about the details of his friend's illness.

"I poker-faced it," House Shoes would say a year later. "It was hard as hell."

At his hospitalized birthday celebration, Yancey got cake -- chocolate, his favorite -- from one of his record labels, Stones Throw. He also got a baseball jersey decorated with Detroit street signs.

Then there was a private gift.

House Shoes called about 35 people in Detroit -- some who knew Yancey and others who'd never met him but appreciated his contributions to hip-hop. He had them leave birthday and get-well greetings on his voice mail.

"Man, listen to this crazy message this girl left me," House Shoes said, bringing his cell phone closer to Yancey's ear.

Then he let them play. All 35 messages. There in his hospital bed, Yancey broke down and cried.

Yancey hides his condition

Yancey kept quiet about how bad things really were.

After that early 2005 stint at the hospital -- the one that prompted hip-hop message boards to report he was in a coma -- he granted an interview to hip-hop magazine XXL for its June edition.

In the interview, he denied that he was comatose, and said that he had gotten sick overseas. "As soon as I got back," he told the magazine, "I had the flu or something, and I had to check myself into the hospital. Then they find out I had a ruptured kidney and was malnourished from not eatin' the right kinda food. It was something real simple, but it ended with me being in the hospital."

Only his doctor and his mother knew how bad it really was.

Detroit rapper Proof, like many of Yancey's friends, never wanted to push it.

"We never really got into the sickness thing. I would be like 'How you doing?' He would be like 'Better,' " Proof said.

The Bible provides comfort

Yancey became more spiritual in the last year of his life.

He and his mother studied the story of Job, which tackles the question of why innocent people suffer, and which biblical scholars interpret to be about faith and patience.

"For God maketh my heart soft, and the Almighty troubleth me: because I was not cut off before the darkness, neither hath he covered the darkness from my face."

His doctor said he had come to terms with illness.

"He didn't want to be a professional patient," said Dr. Aron Bick, Yancey's L.A.-based hematologist, who also is an oncologist. "The treatment was difficult because he would not want to go to the hospital. He was very intelligent. He said, 'I hear you, doc. But here are my decisions about my own life.'

"I admired that on a human level. He got the medical care he needed. He really did not let his medical situation handicap his life. To him, life came first. He made peace with himself before we even knew it. And then he made peace with his mom."

On his 32nd birthday, Yancey spent the day at his L.A. home.

Roommate Common bought him a birthday cake, chocolate, of course. DJ Peanut Butter Wolf and Madlib, friends from hip-hop's underground, came over with a cake in the shape of a chocolate doughnut, to honor the "Donuts" album, which was released that day.

Their visit was brief, because Yancey felt uncomfortable with people seeing him that way.

They left the cake at the door. Yancey had a small piece. It was all his aching stomach could take.

It hadn't quite been a month since he'd left the hospital, and he'd just learned how to swallow again. Because his voice wasn't strong, he sometimes refused to open his mouth. He was shuffling around his home with a walker -- he'd gotten rid of the wheelchair weeks before.

"At that point I really felt like something was wrong, more so than ever," said Peanut Butter Wolf. "Even a few weeks before that he was in a wheelchair, but he was energetic and showing me music and showing me his equipment and talked about moving all of his equipment that's still in Detroit to L.A."

Still, in spite of the pain, he was happy. His one prayer had been answered. This was the first birthday in four years that he hadn't spent in a hospital.

'It's going to be all right'

In the last days of his life, as he shuffled up and down the hallway, he had heart-to-heart chats with his mother. They were quick. But they were thoughtful.

"You know I love you, right?" he said. "And I appreciate everything you've ever done for me."

"You don't have to say that," she said.

He and his mother had developed a ritual that preceded medical procedures: They'd slap high-fives, an indication that everything was going to be OK.

At home, the day after his birthday, he held his hand up for his mom to meet it in midair.

She was puzzled. There was no procedure that day. Why was he doing this?

He continued to motion for her to high-five him, refusing to stop until her hand met his.

Finally, she relented and gave it to him.

"That's what I'm talking about," he said. "We're in this together. It's all good. You're going to be all right. I promise you it's going to be all right."

 :cry:
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Post by: daigong on February 24, 2006, 08:24:09 AM
Oh man...the suffering Jay Dee went through.  :o
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Post by: MochaNutz on February 24, 2006, 04:44:35 PM
:(
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Post by: daigong on February 26, 2006, 08:41:11 PM
Man  :fuckyou: to Nelly/Paul Wall. WU-TANG BE WEARING GRILLS WHEN YOU WERE STILL FLIPPING BURGERS AT MICK DICKS! :x
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Post by: MochaNutz on February 27, 2006, 04:53:01 PM
So, i heard there's a Ghostface - Fishscale advance floating around.  Anyone hear it yet?

I heard the Whip Me - Ghostface track.  its on myspace if you haven't heard it yet.

http://myspace.com/jdilla
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Post by: Masa on March 04, 2006, 10:48:35 PM
Quote from: MochaNutz
So, i heard there's a Ghostface - Fishscale advance floating around.  Anyone hear it yet?

Hell yeah!
It's definitely my fav album of the year so far and Ghost's best album since Supreme Clientele. However I gotta admit that the most hyped tracks (The Champ & 9 Mili Bros) are kinda disappointing though.
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Post by: daigong on March 07, 2006, 09:37:28 AM
Fishscale is gonna be the album of the YEAR!  :D

Common is on a roll.

Common Heading Back Into The Studio With Kanye
March 06, 2006, 3:45 PM ET

Common will head to the studio this month to begin recording his seventh studio album, "Finding Forever." The rapper is hoping to once again call on the production talents of fellow Chicagoan Kanye West, who helmed Common's 2005 effort, "Be," and released it on his G.O.O.D. Music imprint via Geffen. (http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002116729)
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Post by: Masa on March 08, 2006, 08:23:45 AM
Ghostface Killah adds New Track to 'Fishscale'

On the eve of his departure for tour and with mastering deadlines looming, Ghostface Killah has just emerged from the studio again, completing a last minute addition to Fishscale that may in fact prove to be the album’s second single. Entitled “Momma” and featuring Def Jam Recording’s latest signing - Brooklyn’s own Megan Rochell – the song finds Ghost bringing to life vivid tales of struggle over a soulful, sample-heavy track. With the final tracklisting now firmed up, Fishscale is set to hit stores on March 28.

And on Saturday, March 18, Ghost will jump off of his scheduled tour routing to play a very special show at South By Southwest in Austin, Texas. Headlining The Fader/Levi’s Trading Post party, Ghost will be joined by the likes of Lupe Fiasco and his new labelmate Lady Sovereign. Ghostface appears on the cover of The Fader #37, hitting stands just days before the SXSW event. An excerpt from the cover story:

"Ghost has proved himself to be a gifted comedian who doesn't just nail punchlines to prove that he's a clever wordsmith. Instead he's become an absurd situationist... Yet what most differentiates Ghost from not just his Wu compatriots, but from other rappers in general, is an honesty that can manifest itself as intense vulnerability... A complex figure has emerged."

http://www.hiphopgame.com/news.php3?id=1220
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Post by: daigong on March 08, 2006, 09:26:30 AM
Man! Lucky Texicans!!  :evil:
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Post by: Masa on March 09, 2006, 07:00:34 AM
Final Tracklist of Fishscale

1. The Return Of Clyde Smith (Skit)
2. Shakey Dog
3. Kilo featuring Raekwon
4. The Champ
5. Major Operation (Skit)
6. 9 Milli Bros. featuring Wu-Tang Clan
7. Beauty Jackson
8. Heart Street Directions (Skit)
9. Columbus Exchange (Skit) / Crack Spot
10. R.A.G.U. featuring Raekwon
11. Bad Mouth Kid (Skit)
12. Whip You With A Strap
13. Back Like That featuring Ne-Yo
14. Be Easy featuring Trife
15. Clipse Of Doom featuring Trife
16. Jellyfish featuring Theodore Unit (Cappadonna, Shawn Wigs & Trife) 17. Dogs Of War featuring Raekwon & Theodore Unit (Trife, Cappadonna & Sun God)
18. Barbershop
19. Ms. Sweetwater (Skit)
20. Big Girl
21. Underwater
22. The Ironman Takeover (Skit)
23. Momma featuring Megan Rochell
24. **BONUS TRACK ** Three Bricks featuring The Notorious B.I.G. & Raekwon

Damn, so many skits  :evil:
And where's Charlie Brown? It better be on the album.
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Post by: daigong on March 09, 2006, 07:16:56 AM
The 14 track one you passed to me ain't the whoe thing then? I do like the producers on this ... Fishscale could end up being the most un-Wu album ever  :lol:
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Post by: Masa on March 09, 2006, 08:05:59 AM
Quote from: daigong
Fishscale could end up being the most un-Wu album ever  :lol:

Naaah, cause it has plenty of Wu-members. Ghost's previous album didn't have any Wu dudes.
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Post by: MochaNutz on March 09, 2006, 02:41:49 PM
Damn, Charlie Brown is ill.  Maybe its on the GhostDoom.  I'm for sure coppin' Fishscale, still.

off topic but on topic.  Dunno if y'all seen this yet

http://www.devilducky.com/media/42822/
Natalie Portman Gangsta Rap
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Post by: Masa on March 09, 2006, 07:52:10 PM
R.I.P. The Notorious B.I.G. aka Biggie Smalls aka Frank White
(http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/2210/bigface3az.jpg)
It has been 9 years since the original King of New York died (March 9th, 1997) and naturally we will dedicate this week's HiP HoP Hizzy to the late great Christopher Wallace.

np. The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die :yep:
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Post by: Masa on March 10, 2006, 07:54:10 AM
What if Biggie Never Died?

"SOHH.com got together with some of The Notorious B.I.G.'s friends and fans including Fat Joe, Junior Mafia and Lord Finesse, among others, to create the ultimate "What If Biggie Never Died?" list.

It's been nine years since the Biggie walked the Earth and his absence is most felt when looking at Hip-Hop's current landscape. Biggie was a true talent that raised the bar in Hip-Hop with the rare ability to rock any mic, any stage, any beat, and any crowd. He was blessed with skills that translated across state, cultural, and financial boundaries. Bigger than his name or frame, B.I.G. was larger than life. Imagine him here today and you can almost hear him say, "Man, things done changed!"

"His mother's heart [wouldn't be broken]." - Bonz Malone, hip-hop journalist

"People wouldn't be saying 'they're the best rappers since BIG died.'" - DJ Beverly Bond, DJ/Model

"Junior Mafia's career would have gone a whole different way, and we'd still be here together as one... one family like it was before." - Lil' Cease, Junior Mafia

"There would've been a Brooklyn Mint flagship store on 5th avenue, Notorious cologne, B.I.G.Bling watches by Jacob and Co., and Warning: The Video Game. There would have been Junior Mafia albums, volumes 2, 3, and 4; and "Ready to Live," the movie and so on and so on. " - Miss Info, hip-hop journalist

"Without competition, Jay-Z was allowed to build an empire... a monopoly, if you will. A Bad Boy label, with Biggie, would never have allowed that to happen so easily." - Adrian Vicente, fan

"Total would be back together." - Vita, Black Wall Street

"I probably would have worked with him more with Lil Kim and Junior Mafia." - Lord Finesse, DITC

"Jay-Z wouldn't have anyone to quote." - ibeblunt, SOHH

"There would more joints from my dog." - Mr. Cheeks, The Lost Boyz

"The Lox would still be signed to Bad Boy." - BK Mecca, SOHH

"Biggie and Faith celebrity makeover, just look at how incredible Fay looks now. Imagine if Hip-Hop's original royal couple had gone on some South Beach diet shit together? No disrespect to Faith's new beautiful family and her hubby Todd, but it would a been something to see." - Miss Info

"Big was the type of rapper that thrived off good music. He'd hear something hot and be determined to make something hotter. So he'd be at the top of his game right now. He lived off that energy to be the best." - Klepto, Junior Mafia

"I think the original Bad Boy roster would still be there cause Biggie was very influential on how things went down." - Kima, Total

"I'd have one more friend in the world." - Bonz Malone

"Fat Joe and Biggie would have made a Twins album. I was gonna sign to Bad Boy when Biggie died and we was going do an album together. That's when Atlantic signed me; they gave me my own label and stole me from Puff Daddy. But I would have loved to work with BIG." - Fat Joe

"If he was still here he'd be the realest n**** in Hip-Hop. Every time I saw him, he was so down-to-earth. No matter how big he was; no matter much he blew up, he'd always stop and talk with you. He was never like a catty dude. He's still the realest n**** in the game I've ever met." - Vita

"Homie would have gave people what they wanted, a whole lot of good music. Cause that's all Big was ever really about, he was a real humble dude who just wanted help out his people and make good music." - Banger, Junior Mafia

"Jay-Z and Cam'ron would have been in The Commission." - Samm Wilson, fan

"He'd see his clothing line blowing up like Puff Daddy's." - Mr. Cheeks

"I think that certain songs of his may not have been released. I think "Dead Wrong" would not have necessarily come out." - DJ Beverly Bond

"Lil Kim would still look like Lil Kim." - BK Mecca

"Shyne would have never signed to Bad Boy therefore making him a free man." - Samm Wilson

"The competition to be the King of New York would have been crazy. It would have been BIG, Jay, Nas, Jadakiss, 50 [Cent] ...Imagine what it would have looked like!" - Lord Finesse"

http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/8490
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Post by: daigong on March 10, 2006, 08:46:13 AM
If Biggie never died. Puffy would be nothing. He wouldn't be a mogul, he'd have no "Making The Band" no "Sean John"

RIP Biggie.  :(
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Post by: Masa on March 14, 2006, 07:06:49 PM
Ghostface Killah and Common Pay Homage To J Dilla Via New Album!

"BBE Records has announced that they will release producer J Dilla's posthumous album, The Shining, this July.

Dilla (born James Yancey) had completed the majority of The Shining before his untimely passing due to health complications related to lupus on February 10. His mother, Maureen Yancey, entrusted Karriem Riggins, Dilla's friend/frequent collaborator, with completing the final pieces of the project.

The Shining features appearances by Busta Rhymes, Common, Pharaoh Monche and Madlib, among others. It is also accompanied by a DVD celebrating Dilla's life and work, produced by Okayplayer Films' Brian Atkins.

"This album is inspired by and represents love," Riggins said of The Shining. "All the artists that contributed to this project Dilla considered family and when the world hears it, they will see that the love bleeds thru the music."

Later this year, Jay Love Japan, another Dilla album, will be released on Operation Unknown. It features completed collaborations with Ghostface Killah, MF Doom, Skillz, Madlib, Busta and more.

Hip-Hop fans and artists around the world have been showing J Dilla and his family love since they found out the shocking news. Last month, Justus League affiliate Skyzoo released "Sky's Last Donut," a tribute song to the fallen beatsmith.

Donations on behalf of Jay Dee's mother can be made to Mrs. Maureen Yancey, and sent to 132 N. Sycamore Avenue, Los Angeles, CA 90036, or by bank wire to Wells Fargo Bank of Los Angeles, CA, Routing Number: 122000247, Account Number: 6043250676, 800-869-3557.

J Dilla's The Shining will hit stores on July 11."
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Post by: Masa on March 18, 2006, 10:04:38 PM
DJ Premier and Christina Aguilera  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

Aguilera Looks 'Back' On Upcoming Album

Christina Aguilera receives musical assistance from an unlikely collaborator on her upcoming album, "Back to Basics," due in June via RCA. Gang Starr principal DJ Premier produced five songs for the project, which finds Aguilera paying tribute to the music that inspired her: soul, jazz and blues from the 1920s, '30s and '40s.

"It was kind of a shock because I was like, 'How the hell does she know about me?'" Premier recalls of his first conversation with RCA about the album. "I'm one of those guys that really doesn't expect pop artists to really be up on me. My first question was, 'What does she know about me?'"

It turns out Aguilera was familiar with some of Premier's jazz-influenced work with Gang Starr in the late 1980s and early 1990s, especially the song "Jazz Thing."

"It had elements of Miles Davis and Billie Holiday and little horn pieces," Aguilera says of the tune. "The way he combined that, I was like, 'Hm. I bet he would get where I'm trying to go with this record.' It was taking a chance. God knows if he would even do it because it was kind of his first time, I think, even venturing into the 'pop' world. I knew that it would be a different and new thing for him."

Aguilera says that her work with DJ Premier is new territory for both of them and continues her legacy of taking creative chances with her music. Likely single "Ain't No Other Man," produced by DJ Premier and Charles Roane, clocks in at 127 beats per minute -- most pop and rap songs rarely exceed 10 -- -and features energetic horn blares. Another song, "Thank You (Dedication to Fans)," finds Premier slicing up pieces of Aguilera's first hit, "Genie in a Bottle," and pairing them with voice-mail messages from Aguilera's fans.

These songs gave Aguilera the sounds she desired and allowed her to fulfill another one of her mandates. "The thing that I try to do with each record, I don't necessarily go to the main people that are the No. 1 chart-toppers in music," she says. "I really like to go left field, think a little bit out of the box and go with someone, maybe a little bit more obscure, that I really respect. Not to say that Premier is that, but just to say that I'm not going to go to the obvious person, say, the Neptunes, Pharrell or Lil Jon. I really like to go someplace different that people haven't approached."

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002198977


Seriously, what the fuck?!  :shock:
Title: Judge Halts Notorious B.I.G. Album Sales
Post by: Foxy Brown on March 20, 2006, 04:23:19 AM
A judge halted sales of Notorious B.I.G.'s breakthrough 1994 album "Ready to Die" after a jury decided the title song used part of an Ohio Players tune without permission. (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=1742607)
Title: Re: Judge Halts Notorious B.I.G. Album Sales
Post by: daigong on March 25, 2006, 04:23:14 PM
Quote from: Boxy Brown
A judge halted sales of Notorious B.I.G.'s breakthrough 1994 album "Ready to Die" after a jury decided the title song used part of an Ohio Players tune without permission. (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=1742607)


DAMN. A little too late isn't it to milk the Biggie Gravy train :P
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Post by: daigong on March 25, 2006, 05:17:51 PM
R.I.P. Eric “Eazy-E” Wright (1964-1995)

(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3481/eazye0zg.gif)

11 Years ago. March 26, 1995. The hip hop world lost a legend. Eric "Eazy-E" Wright, father of Gangsta Rap, founder of N.W.A. and Ruthless Records (funded from his own drug money and prototype of the rap moguls today), and Compton's finest lost his battle with AIDS. He was only 31.

Only 5'3" ... Eazy-E is a  giant in rap history.

For more info, visit his official site at http://www.eazy-e.com or the wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eazy_E
Title: L.A. to pay B.I.G.'s family $1.1M
Post by: Foxy Brown on April 01, 2006, 07:53:19 AM
The city has agreed to pay $1.1 million in legal costs to the family of slain rapper Notorious B.I.G. because of police errors during a wrongful death case brought against the city and the LAPD. (http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/30/notorious.big.ap/index.html)
Title: Re: L.A. to pay B.I.G.'s family $1.1M
Post by: hide321 on April 05, 2006, 06:53:17 AM
Quote from: Foxy Brown
The city has agreed to pay $1.1 million in legal costs to the family of slain rapper Notorious B.I.G. because of police errors during a wrongful death case brought against the city and the LAPD. (http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/30/notorious.big.ap/index.html)


Great! That's a very small step (the killer of Biggie needs to be discovered, even if that person/people are already dead or in jail) for the family to get their retribution.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on April 07, 2006, 08:47:51 AM
Gotta PIMP Kardinall Offishall. Official supporter of JPH!P  (http://forum.jphip.com/viewtopic.php?t=3172):lmao:

(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1559/kardinal6et.jpg)

Here's this is his 1st album featuring hits like Bakardi Slang + Ol Time Killin. My fave track is Maxine :D
DOWNLOAD
http://rapidshare.de/files/15859876/Kardinal_Offishall_-_Firestarter_volume_1_-_Quest_for_Fire.zip.html

thx to Mochanutz, peep his 1st indie album
DOWNLOAD
http://rapidshare.de/files/15838769/Kardinal_Offishall_-_Eye_I.zip.html

Hunting for his recent mixtape album and any other singles.

(http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/6721/kardi542313379fa.jpg)
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on April 07, 2006, 06:04:18 PM
RZA Speaks on Cuban Linx II
RZA released some exclusive information on Cuban Linx II to Wu-Tang Corp today. RZA promises the fans it will be a real classic, Raekwon is said to be in his most murderous vibe of writing and the songs are coming along lovely. The whole Clan (minus the late ODB) is confirmed to appear on the album. The next street single after the well accepted "State Of Grace" will probably be the RZA produced "Secret Inditement". Although RZA is sceptical about outside producers making the final cut, there are a few that have a good chance of getting on there.

With respect to the late J.Dilla, the song "House Of The Flying Daggers" is a candidate for the album. Scram Jones has also shopped his beats to Raekwon and RZA. The one producer everyone is wondering about however is Dr.Dre. RZA and Dre were in the studio last week together going through a mass amount of beats. So far, according to RZA there are 3 songs produced by Dre that both Raekwon and RZA are feeling heavily. These three songs are recorded, mixed and done!

One of the songs features Raekwon, Busta Rhymes and RZA together over a booming Dre beat! Whether this song will make the album is still uncertain. Raekwon however is confirmed for the Busta Rhymes album and RZA says the new Busta album is absolutely crazy. The song featuring Stevie Wonder is his absolute favorite and he urges all Wu fans to cop that album and support Busta who is also a very close and loved brother to the Clan. Furthermore RZA said hes very happy for Ghost to get the respect and first week sales he received for "Fishscale". He added that "if people liked the Ghostface album, they are gonna LOVE the Cuban Linx part II album."

http://www.wutang-corp.com/news/article.php?id=678
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on April 11, 2006, 06:54:48 AM
Quote from: daigong


Hunting for his recent mixtape album and any other singles.

(http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/6721/kardi542313379fa.jpg)


dang, i totally forgot about giving you that one.  Here it is

http://rapidshare.de/files/17707414/Kardinal_Offishall_-_Kill_Bloodclott_Bill_Volume_1_Mixtape.zip.html
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on April 11, 2006, 09:42:10 AM
^ YEAAAH BABY!! thx man. :bow: lost u on IRC. KARDI's expression when that Tim guy won Much VJ! I gotta see again  :lol:

Quote from: Masa
RZA Speaks on Cuban Linx II

http://www.wutang-corp.com/news/article.php?id=678


Dre. Busta. RZA!!  :w00t:  :w00t:

Hey. just noticed the official site is back! Finally. and my username "daigong" still works after all these years. AND they use vBulletin. Time to do some JPH!P pimpin.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on April 11, 2006, 05:23:24 PM
http://www.hiphopgame.com/news.php3?id=1259

D-12's Proof Shot and Killed in Detroit

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Rapper Proof of the hip-hop group D12 was shot and killed this morning at an illegal afterhours club on Eight Mile, police said.

Proof, whose real name is Deshaun Holton, was dead on arrival at Conner Creek Medical Center in Detroit, according to a spokeswoman for St. John Health System. He was 32.

Proof befriended Eminem long before he was a houshold name, and was a nearly constant presence as the rapper rose to superstardom. He toured with Eminem as his on-stage hype man, was a member of his group D12, had a bit role in the "8 Mile" movie and served as the best man at his wedding in January.
An unidentified 35-year-old man, who was shot along with Proof, is in critical condition at Detroit's St. John Hospital.
Police were called to the shootings around 5 a.m, following reports of a fight and shots fired.
The club where it occurred is called 3C, and it's at 8 Mile near Hayes. The club isn't illegal but it was operating illegally after hours.
This is the second shooting involving Eminem's entourage in three months.
Another Eminem affiliate, Obie Trice, was shot and wounded New Year's Eve while driving along the Lodge Freeway.
Anyone with information on the shootings is asked to call Detroit Police at 313-596-2260.

 


D12 kinda sucked, but still, another fallen member in the hip hop game.  Personally I thought Proof was the best one besides Eminem.  R.I.P.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on April 11, 2006, 05:45:33 PM
R.I.P. Proof

And then some good news:

Nas/ Rakim Collabo In The Works
(http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7329/281x2110tm.jpg)

Over the years, Nas and Rakim have frequently been compared to each other, both for carving out their own respective niches and for their profound influence on the rap game. But they'd never sat down for a joint interview — until last week, and MTV News was there.

The historic event wasn't short on historic news, either: As our cameras rolled, the two solidified plans to collaborate officially on record for the first time. (Both MCs were featured on a 2003 studio version of Alicia Keys' song "Streets of New York (City Life)" (see "Alicia Keys Locks In Nas, Rakim For New Album"), but the track was never officially released and has been relegated to mixtapes.)

And with both MCs currently crafting their latest LPs, the rapper known as "The God" posed the collabo question to God's Son.

"I'mma ask a question," Rakim said to Nas and everyone in the room. "Me and Nas, we been talking about this for a long time. Our people around us been talking about it and the whole world [has been talking about it], but it's about time, man.

"We gotta do a joint together, man. We gotta do a joint."

"We got to," Nas answered with a smile.

"I'm working on my sh-- now, I know you working on yours, I got some things in my mind," Rakim continued. "If it's both [albums we collaborate on], that's even better. Let's think about that in the next few weeks."

"Yeah dawg, that's done," Nas responded before the MCs began exchanging numbers. "It's done. I'm glad you brought that up."

"MTV, you got it first," Rakim said with excitement. "Hopefully we'll find the right chemistry and right track — because you know [Nas] as well as me, we not going to do it if it don't make sense. [It's gotta be] on and poppin'. I just wanted to get that out of the way, because it's [been] a long time coming."

Rakim said his forthcoming LP, The Seventh Seal, should be wrapped up within the next two months. He said he's teamed up with some investors and has started up his own label; however, his new LP will be distributed through a major label.

"I just wanted to feel free with the way I like doing what I do," Ra explained. "It's hard to do an album where Rakim is pleased, the label is pleased and the world is pleased. I figured [going the independent route], I could do it because I know what the world wants. Hopefully I'll be able to give it to them."

Meanwhile, Nas is tight-lipped about his forthcoming LP, which is his first offering under the Def Jam umbrella (see "Nas On 'Partnering With' Jay-Z: 'I'm Ready To Go — I'm Ready To Kick Ass' "). Rakim is just one of many in the hip-hop community anticipating Nas' next album.

"I always respected Nas," Rakim said. "He was always a lyricist, and I always respect a true lyricist. Me and Nas got a rapport, we go back. He used to come up to Power Play Studios [located not far from Nas' home base in the Queensbridge neighborhood of New York City] when I was working on my early albums. Watching him grow, and having respect for him and getting respect from him, is a beautiful thing."

It goes without saying that Nas and Rakim are two of the best MCs of all time — but did they make it onto MTV's "Greatest MCs of All Time"? Keep checking "The Greatest MCs of All-Time" feature throughout the week to find out — and don't miss "Unveiling the Kings: The Five Greatest MCs Of All Time," premiering on Sunday, April 16, at 3 p.m. on MTV2.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1528276/20060410/nas.jhtml?headlines=true
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on April 12, 2006, 09:19:40 AM
LOL Rakim was with Aftermath forever XD


RIP Proof...next HHH we'll have a tribute show. :JD:
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on April 12, 2006, 05:27:05 PM
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The shooting at a Detroit night club that led to the death of Proof early Tuesday morning remains under investigation.

D-12's Proof was killed in a double shooting just after 4 a.m. at the CCC after-hours club on Eight Mile Road, according to police. The second victim, former U.S. Army Sgt. Keith Bender Jr., remained hospitalized on life support Wednesday morning, Local 4 reported.

Police have not released details of their investigation, but witnesses said Proof pulled out a gun and shot Bender, and then someone else shot Proof, Local 4 reported.

Police said they are looking for at least one other person in connection with the shooting, and a murder weapon.

"I was not there, so I cannot tell you what happened. All I know is that it shouldn't have happened," said Bender's aunt, Deborah Bender.

Fans have created a makeshift memorial of flowers, stuffed animals and messages to pay their respects to the rapper outside the night club.

"It's devastating," said Steve Young, a friend of Proof.

Funeral arrangements for Proof have not yet been announced.

Bender was recently discharged from the military because of a heart condition, Local 4 reported.


Proof shooting first?  If this is true, it changes my view on it.  Maybe he deserved it then...
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: ctz on April 12, 2006, 09:07:47 PM
Well, kinda cruel to say that he deserved it, but he definitely lost my respect.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on April 13, 2006, 07:28:39 AM
damn Proof...:evil:

I still haven't seen Fishscale for sale here...



Any Vancouverites going to see Raekwon this weekend?
http://www.wutang-corp.com/news/article.php?id=679
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on April 13, 2006, 07:35:51 AM
This is a while back but I missed the Junos - Canadian ver. of the Grammys.

Kardinal Offishall To Boycott Future Junos
Monday April 03, 2006 @ 07:00 PM
By: ChartAttack.com Staff

Kardinal Offishall is considered by many to be Canada's official hip-hop ambassador, but his diplomatic tenure at the Juno Awards has officially come to an end.

The rapper says he's never going to attend a Juno Awards show ever again.

"I'm not going to be the Juno's monkey no more," he said from the red carpet of Sunday evening's Juno Awards broadcast. "I'm not coming back any more."

Offishall, who has one win for the six Juno nominations he's garnered since 1997, cites Canadian hip-hop's low profile at this year's awards as the catalyst for his decision.

"Really, to me it's really atrocious what they do to hip-hop in this country and what they do for the artists," he said. "And it's one of those things, I just feel like the token hip-hop artist from Canada."

This isn't the first time a Canuck hip-hopper has had issue with the Junos. Back in 1998, Vancouver group the Rascalz refused to accept their best rap recording award because they felt that the genre had been marginalized and kept off the televised portion of the awards show due to racism.

This year, although dance act Massari, R&B songstress Divine Brown and American hip-hoppers Black Eyed Peas all had performing slots during the show, no urban music awards were actually presented in front of a TV audience.

"For urban music in this country, I mean, not only was hip-hop not televised, but also reggae and R&B," said Offishall. "To me, it's sickening — and then they have the nerve to bring in a hip-hop act [Black Eyed Peas] from outside the country. I just had enough.

"The Black Eyed Peas are huge and if I was getting paid as much by the Junos as they were getting paid, I'd be here too," he said. "It has nothing to do with the Black Eyed Peas."

Offishall had performed to a music industry audience during the Saturday evening non-televised Juno Awards gala ceremony and also teamed with Sophia Milman to present the artist of the year award to Michael Buble on the TV show.

"They had me perform last night and give away the award — to me it's all a farce," he said. "I really can't put up with it anymore.

"It's not even that it's embarrassing, it's just disappointing. It doesn't matter what you do in this country, for me anyway, they don't recognize what I do.

"It's just a bunch of garbage so I won't be a part of it anymore."

http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2006/04/0307.cfm
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Straight up. They didn't even put on weak ass R&B acts like Shawn Desmond and Massari?? Sheesh.. and they get Coldplay guy to appear. Hate to say this, but even the Muchmusic Video Awards is more Canadian.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Mugen on April 13, 2006, 07:36:35 AM
which vancouver? the one in BC or WA?
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on April 13, 2006, 07:39:16 AM
Y'all seen this?? Looks interesting...

(http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/1194/touchthesky6gm.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EK5DEE/

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TRACK LISTING
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1 - Clinton Sparks Intro
2 - Kanye West Intro - Coronation [prod. by Clinton Sparks]
3 - Kanye West, Bump J & Sly Polaroid - Freestyle
4 - Pharrell & N.O.R.E - Yeah n**** [prod. by Clinton Sparks]
5 - Busta Rhymes feat. Dr. Dre - Look Who [prod. by Clinton Sparks]
6 - D-Block feat. Sheek, Styles P & Jae Hood - Take Everything [prod. by Clinton Sparks]
7 - Diddy & Notorious B.I.G - Welcome To Bad Boy [prod. by Clinton Sparks]
8 - Kanye West - So Offensive [prod. by Clinton Sparks]
9 - Freeway feat. Jay-Z - R.O.C. Too Strong [prod. by Clinton Sparks]
10 - Notorious B.I.G - Rap Phenomenon Pt. II [prod. by Clinton Sparks]
11 - Lil' Kim - Get Touched [prod. by Clinton Sparks]
12 - Kanye West - Blow Your Mind [prod. by Clinton Sparks]
13 - Nas & Jay-Z - Twin Towers [prod. by Clinton Sparks]
14 - D-Block feat. Styles P - Ready To Dump [prod. by Clinton Sparks]
15 - Slim Thug - Round Here [prod. by Clinton Sparks]
16 - D-Block feat. Sheek Louch - Set It Off [prod. by Clinton Sparks]
17 - Alicia Keys (Live On SmashTime Radio/Shade 45 with Clinton Sparks)
18 - Ludacris & Shawnna - He Said, She Said [prod. by Clinton Sparks]
19 - Mike Jones & Slim Thug - H-Town [prod. by Tombstone & Clinton Sparks]
20 - N.O.R.E feat. Pharrell - Watch Me Now [prod. by Clinton Sparks]
21 - Kanye West - Sophomore Slump (Interlude)
22 - Busta Rhymes feat. Pharrell - Followers [prod. by Clinton Sparks]
23 - Q-Tip - Freestyle (Live On SmashTime Radio/Shade 45 With Clinton Sparks)
24 - Kardinal Offishall - GFN [prod. by Clinton Sparks]
25 - Kanye West & Busta Rhymes - Love To Hate [prod. by Clinton Sparks]
26 - Peedi Crakk & Young Chris - Freestyle (Live On SmashTime Radio/Shade 45) [prod. by Clinton Sparks]
27 - Papoose - Freestyle
28 - Remy Ma - Freestyle (Live On SmashTime Radio/Shade 45 With Clinton Sparks)
29 - Bossman - Untouchable [prod. by Clinton Sparks] (Baltimore)
30 - L.T. - Rain When Its Hot (Boston)
31 - Kanye West Outro
32 - SmashTime Radio // Get Familiar
33 - Edison Chen - Get Familiar Freestyle (CLOT, Hong Kong)
34 - Sway - No Doe, No Show (UK)

Edison WTF?? Stupid tycoon's son  :evil:
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on April 13, 2006, 07:54:07 AM
Quote from: Mugen
which vancouver? the one in BC or WA?


BC of course. :P that's the only one I know of.

Mugen?? KingKoopa? Damn that name sounds familiar too.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on April 16, 2006, 09:57:29 AM
Quote from: daigong
Y'all seen this?? Looks interesting...

(http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/1194/touchthesky6gm.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EK5DEE/

http://rapidshare.de/files/18127250/Dj_Clinton_Sparks_-_Touch_The_Sky__hosted_by_Kanye_West_.rar.html
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on April 16, 2006, 10:09:17 AM
^ that's why they call you a HUSTLAH BABY :bow:

LOVING the Mick Boogie 2nd Semester Mix Tape you upped FUCK-tastic remixes.


New revelations in the Proof murder case:

Mario Etheridge, the 28-year-old bouncer at Detroit's CCC Club and the suspected gunman in Tuesday morning's shooting death of D12's Proof, was charged Friday afternoon (April 14) . (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1528750/20060414/proof_of_d_12.jhtml?headlines=true)

and says Eminem (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1528698/04142006/proof_of_d_12.jhtml):

"You don't know where to begin when you lose somebody who's been such a big part of your life for so long. Proof and I were brothers," Eminem said in a statement regarding the death of his D12 partner, longtime onstage hype man and closest friend (see "D12's Proof Shot And Killed At Detroit Club"). "He pushed me to become who I am. Without Proof's guidance and encouragement there would have been a Marshall Mathers, but probably not an Eminem and certainly never a Slim Shady. Not a day will go by without his spirit and influence around us all. He will be missed as a friend, father and both the heart and ambassador of Detroit hip-hop."

So the lawyers deny he shot first ... hmmm....
Title: Rappers Urge Financial Responsibility
Post by: Foxy Brown on April 24, 2006, 08:49:38 AM
LL Cool J is urging fans to be financially responsible.

The platinum-selling rap star spoke over the weekend at the Hip Hop Summit on Financial Empowerment.

The event, organized by multi-millionaire entrepreneur Russell Simmons, mixed stars like LL Cool J, Alicia Keys, Nas and T.I. with financial experts to provide advice on home ownership, budgets, credit cards and other financial issues. (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=1880317)
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on April 24, 2006, 01:28:09 PM
Aight so who are your current and all-time favorite MCs?

All-time
1. Pharoahe Monch
2. Ghostface Killah
3. GZA
4. Biggie
5. Nas
6. Jay-Z
7. Big Pun
8. Mos Def
9. Gift Of Gab
10. Common

Current
1. Ghostface Killah
2. Brother Ali
3. Virtuoso
4. Raekwon
5. GZA
6. Gift Of Gab
7. Common
8. Nas
9. MF Doom
10. Apathy
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on April 25, 2006, 08:38:59 AM
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LL Cool J is urging fans to be financially responsible.

How ironic. They should get Paul Wall, Nelly, and all those Dirty South rappers to attend.

Hmm...my list:

All-time
1. Chuck D
2. Ice Cube
3. ODB
4. 2Pac
5. Snoop Doggy Dogg
6. GZA
7. Method Man
8. Ghostface Killah
9. DMX
10. Sir Mix-A-Lot

Current
1. Kardinal Offishall
2. Kanye West
3. GZA
4. RZA
5. Busta Rhymes
6. Ghostface Killah
7. Common
8. Lupe Fiasco
9. Mos Def
10. Eminem
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on May 07, 2006, 08:27:34 AM
Ghostface - Keep it movin’

It’s as simple as this: More people should listen to Ghostface Killah. Sure, his latest opus, Fishscale sold more than one hundred thousand units in its first week, but this Wu-Tang Clansmen is one of hip-hop’s most consistent, and it’s hard to find that reflected in any tangible statistic. Hip-hoppers have always been a fickle bunch, but Puff and Russell must be fooling themselves to think they can turn the hip-hop generation into a political constituency when it doesn’t even support one of its favorite artists.

Similar criticism can be directed at New York. The culture’s long-time epicenter has struggled to find relevancy in the face of Southern hip-hop’s ever-growing popularity. Veterans and upstarts alike are vowing a resurrection of a “new New York.” The clash between regions is not a civil war, more like sectarian aggression. Sour grapes on New York’s part, maybe, but this tension could very well wake a sleeping giant.

Cue the Ironman theme song and enter Ghostface, dripping in a velour robe and oversized jewelry. While hip-hop has been collectively turning its attention to Southern artists, Ghostface has embraced the underground, collaborating instead with MF Doom, J-Dilla, Madlib and Pete Rock. Record labels and radio stations maybe looking for the next “Laffy Taffy,” but Ghostface has continued to embrace the golden era of ’88. A self-proclaimed soul baby, Ghostface hasn’t just incorporated soul music into his productions, he’s burrowed it deep into the rhythm of his voice. In many ways, Ghostface is more a soul singer than an emcee: Whether it’s the coke deal gone awry, the perils of addiction or an underwater adventure, Ghostface is able to convert raw emotions and sensations into music.  

I’ve heard you first started to wear your mask because you were wanted by the police and needed to hide your identity. Once all that blew over, you decided to reveal your face. Is that true?

Ghostface Killah: Nah, fuck that. I started to wear the mask because my name is Ghostface Killah, man. I got that name from Mystery of the Chessboxing, a karate flick. Yeah, I was getting my hands dirty back then. n**** do what he do. But, you know, Ghostface Killah sounds like a man who should have a mask on.

So you finished your tour with the Wu…

Ghostface Killah: We did fourteen days and eleven shows. Everything went well.

How did the tour compare to the old days?

Ghostface Killah: It was cool, you know, with the exception of my man Ol’ Dirty Bastard. We was chillin’ and shit. I couldn’t complain.

You went gold and platinum, yet in relation to all the critical acclaim, your sales have been sub-par. Have expectations gotten bigger or is it just harder to sell records to this generation of hip-hoppers?

Ghostface Killah: Man, it’s a whole new generation of rap fans. It’s everything. The [radio] stations be bullshitting. n****s playing that wack shit. It’s a combination of all that shit, G. Yeah, it’s harder to sell records. It ain’t like it was before 9/11 and all that. Unless it’s somebody with a big buzz, like a Kanye West, Jaime Foxx, Mary J. Blige or Usher -- shit, other than that, man, it’s a task for you.

On Fishscale you have a track with J-Dilla, “Whip You With a Strap,” that focuses on raising children, in particular the use of corporal punishment. What other advice does Pretty Toney have for parents?

Ghostface Killah: Listen, man, you got to chastise your kid. If you don’t lay your foot down, your kid is going to be [saying], “Fuck you.” And you going to be sitting there crying [in a high-pitched voice]: “Oh, what have I done; I haven’t done nothing to this boy.” And that little motherfucker barking on you [in a little boy’s voice]: “Nah, fuck you, mommy. I’m going outside with my friends. I don’t give a fuck what you say.” Parents get that when they don’t put they foot down. n****s got to start going hard on they kids again. Ain’t no law and order any more. I am not saying you got bust your kid’s ass everyday, but you got to go back to the ole remedy. I don’t know about you, but I used to get my ass whipped, and that kept me on a straight path. If I did something wrong or said something wrong to somebody, fuck around and get popped in my fucking mouth, and that’s just what it is, G.

Lately you and many other East Coast artists have been criticizing Southern hip-hop, in particular songs such as “Laffy Taffy.”

Ghostface Killah: Man, that’s all y’all be talking about lately.

Playing devil’s advocate, do you think it’s because New York is jealous it lost the hip-hop crown?

Ghostface Killah: New York lost the crown because the New York deejays gave the crown away for some fucking money. New York be bullshitting. Right know, I say fuck New York. Yeah, I’m from New York, but fuck New York. Because n****s is pussy. They is so quick to jump on the next man’s dick and can’t even deal with what they got in front of they face.

That’s why I respect other states, man. New York, I don’t know -- for some reason we started to get really soft. And now we act like we want that real hip-hop back, when our fucking deejays is only programmed to play what they playing. They playing more other people’s shit than our own shit. n****s is screaming that real hip-hop -- we trying to bring it back but we can’t even play that real hip-hop on the radio.

I knew New York was wack when they shot my man Amadou Diallo forty-one fucking times and ain’t nobody stand up. But if that shit happen in L.A. somewhere, they would have went to bat for Amadou Diallo. It would have been hell. Stores getting burnt the fuck up. New York don’t stand for nothing. They say if you don’t stand for something you will fall for anything. But we mad at ourselves and can’t even get our shit right. When you look at them other n****s’ videos, they popping off and having fun in there. We can’t even have fun amongst each other in New York. That’s why I say fuck New York. That’s real talk coming from Ghostface Killah.

Back on Cuban Linx you had the “Shark Biters” skit, and more recently Raekwon on his new track, “State of Grace,” talked about “rappers biting up the God’s bible.” What are your thoughts on these new artists using your music as blueprint for success and the industry’s newfound love with coke rap?

Ghostface Killah: It’s like, really you supposed to stay in your realm, but if nobody don’t got another glass to sip off of and they only see that one glass, then they going to come at that glass. It’s out of respect, though. Subconsciously, they love n****s -- they carrying the torch for what we done did back in ’95. So I stopped getting mad at shit like that. They just attracted by the truth. It’s like a magnetic attraction that will draw you closer.

When you observing that shit that was hot back then, you start to follow that shit without you even knowing. Talking about the Cristal, the drugs, the silk shirts, how we was coming through -- you know, they get caught up in it. That’s how come a n**** like me, I keep it moving with different topics. I like to write about shit like “Underwater,” “Shakey Dog,” “Strap,” “All I Need Is You.” C’mon, man: If I got a pair of brown Tims and you came copped a brown pair, I don’t even want that shit no more. I’ll go to the black Tims. Or the new Nike boots. Whatever I got to do, I keep it moving on you.

That’s that New York state of mind.

Ghostface Killah: Nah, that’s my state of mind.

http://www.prefixmag.com/features/G/Ghostface/339

Ghostface - Back Like That remix feat. Kanye West & Ne-Yo
http://rapidshare.de/files/19682398/Ghostface_ft._Ne-Yo___Kanye_West_-_Back_Like_That__Remix_.mp3.html
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Post by: daigong on May 07, 2006, 08:37:55 AM
Ne-Yo LOL. I'm so proud of Ghost. 100K units is GREAT.

But man. I like how Ghost talks about biters. "They just attracted by the truth. It’s like a magnetic attraction that will draw you closer." A good point, we been having trouble with that. Muthafuckaz have been biting me with my gang names, this whole AZN bullshit and now Da HiP. With that POV, I can have piece of mind yo.

(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3531/gnarlsbarkleyf4ts.jpg)

and Gnarls Barkley is getting HUGE airplay with "Crazy"...good for Danger Doom and Cee-Lo
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Post by: daigong on May 09, 2006, 09:06:38 AM
Heads up HiP HoP Hizzy fans (http://forum.jphip.com/showthread.php?t=1638), we're planning a Mother's Day special. Anyone know more Mama songs cuz we loves our Mamas. This is

http://rap.about.com/od/toppicks/tp/SongsForMothers.htm

Uploads would be bonus. :)

And yeah. This is a new record for preparing for a show early.
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Post by: Masa on May 12, 2006, 09:15:13 AM
Jacked from sohh.com:

"Danger Mouse and MF Doom's super group Danger Doom will be offering new music for download via Adultswim.com, beginning next week.

As SOHH previously reported, Cartoon Network's Adult Swim and Danger Doom collaborated last year to produce the critically-acclaimed album, DANGERDOOM: The Mouse and the Mask.

The new material from Danger Doom, which will be a nine track EP, will feature appearances from Madlib and character voices and skits from Adult Swim's popular original shows such as "Aqua Teen Hunger Force," "Squidbillies" and "Minoriteam".

"Last year, when we teamed up with Danger Mouse and DOOM to create Danger Doom: The Mouse and the Mask, it turned out to be an amazing experience for them and for us," said head of music for Adult Swim and executive producer of Danger Doom Jason DeMarco via a statement.

"As soon as the project was finished, we knew we wanted to continue working together" explained DeMarco. "This time, we've decided to make new music available free for download from AdultSwim.com, which we thought was fitting for two artists who are legendary for Internet leaks."

The first track of the EP, titled "Corn Dogs," will be available for download at http://www.adultswim.com beginning (May 15) . Additional tracks from the EP will be made available weekly and the full EP will be released on the website for download on May 30th. The free EP will only be available for a limited time.

In related news , Adult Swim will also be releasing another hip hop album with Stones Throw Records later this year. The album will celebrate Stones Throw's ten-year anniversary, will include material from Madlib, MF Doom, the late J Dilla, Dudley Perkins, M.E.D., and Madlib's "five piece band" Yesterdays News Quintet.

Peanut Butter Wolf will serve as executive producer on the Adult Swim/Stones Throw project. The as-yet untitled album is slated for release on September 19."

DANGER DOOM TAUGHT ME HOW TO SWIM :yep:
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Post by: daigong on May 16, 2006, 06:35:45 AM
Quote from: Masa
DANGER DOOM TAUGHT ME HOW TO SWIM :yep:

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2951/corndogsmain4cy.jpg)
SWEET!! Here's the direct link: http://i.adultswim.com/adultswim/promos/dangerdoom/corndogs/tracks/korndogs.mp3

hehe. not bad funky violin hook, "You looking like a mouse or something THE mouse" :yep:

at around 1:58 "...invite to your circle jerk" :lol:
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Post by: maliciel on May 16, 2006, 04:14:03 PM
Pretty sweet track. The violin part is pretty cool, yeah. There's actually a hook too, I didn't hear any of that in Mouse and the Mask.

Quote
at around 1:58 "...invite to your circle jerk"

It's Stryfe! :lol:
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Post by: daigong on May 21, 2006, 08:53:13 AM
Peep MF Doom free videos on his myspace!

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=26224531&blogID=121774135
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Post by: Tanier on May 23, 2006, 06:33:18 PM
if i'm not banging screw listening to h!p i'm probably listening to J-Rap
and i really like this artist right here http://www.tigarah.net check it out.
fav artists Chamillionaire, Tigarah, Rasaq, Lady Sovereign, M.I.A.'s good Halcali, Rhymster, Michico, Heartsdales  and the list gos on and on. i can't listen em all but I'd have to say Chamillioanire and Tigarah are my top 2.

and Happy hip hop awareness week.
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Post by: Masa on May 28, 2006, 09:48:31 AM
Jacked from Wu-Corp:
Chef Raekwon Officially Aftermath ?!
According to Raekwons people we can officially confirm that Chef Raekwon has inked a deal with Dr. Dres Aftermath Entertainment. While details are still sketchy, we can confirm that the papers were signed last week.

It was already known that Dr. Dre and Raekwon had worked together on the highly anticipated "Only Built 4 Cuban Linx" project, an initiative of Busta Rhymes who is also an Executive Producer of the record with RZA.

"Only Built 4 Cuban Linx II" will be a co-production between Aftermath and Wu-Tang. Whether this is the Wu Music Group or Wu-Tang Productions is not known yet.

RZA has yet to confirm the rest of the details.

This is truly history in the making...


Hmm.... this could be interesting. The good thing is that Cuban Linx 2 will get lots of promotion now that Rae is on Aftermath. I just hope there won't be too many Dre beats, Rae gots to keep it Wu.
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Post by: MochaNutz on June 02, 2006, 02:28:39 AM
So I "got" the New Busta Rhymes - The Big Bang album.  Its dope.  

What else is new, I bought the MF DOOM Special Herbs Box Set for $24.99.  Its like $22.99 for the separate volumes, but at $24 for 0-9 and mixed together, its a bargain!  

Also bought the King Geedorah.  Its one of my favorite DOOM albums.  Impulse buy, i just saw it and I asked, "When am I gonna see this again?" haha

Wasn't the J Dilla - The SHining supposed to come out soon?
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Post by: Roary on June 02, 2006, 08:47:59 AM
I just hope the new Wu-tang will be Illing. After Wu-tang forever it wasnt so good in my opinion.
But the old tracks still rock solid!
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Post by: Samuel L. Jackson on June 02, 2006, 08:53:39 AM
Rae on Aftermath is gonna be dope. Wu needs a lil commercial exposure to get the good underground shit out.
 
Dunno, that'd be sweet to see "new" Dilla.

New Busta Rhymes doesn't seem to have a bad track at all. For a Dre produced album, I was surprised there wasn't any cameos from Dre's camp. Stevie Wonder track was really haunting, my fave so far. Rick James even weirder. This is the Busta Rhymes I loved ...the TURN IT UP ver. Dre RECORDS, Aftermath BITCH!
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Post by: Samuel L. Jackson on June 03, 2006, 08:53:02 AM
HEADS UP! The whole DANGERDOOM EP is up.
(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9558/main6pv.jpg)

http://www.adultswim.com/promos/dangerdoom/occulthymn/index.html

64kps but whatever, daigong will play the whole shit on HiP HoP Hizzy on HiP Radio this week (check local listings)
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Post by: Affen SS on June 03, 2006, 05:34:34 PM
Quote from: MochaNutz
So I "got" the New Busta Rhymes - The Big Bang album.  Its dope.  


I dont like it :(

But the Ice Cube Album is great! :)
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Post by: Masa on June 08, 2006, 09:21:44 AM
In my opinion The Big Bang is the best Busta album since When Disaster Strikes. The album is surprisingly good and fortunately all those wack ass G-Unit/Aftermath cats are nowhere to be found. My favorite joints are Goldmine, New York Shit and You Can't Hold A Torch.

I found a few funny ass comic strips:
Wu-Tang vs. Peanuts
(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6900/2611ud.th.jpg) (http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2611ud.jpg)
(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9587/2621vt.th.jpg) (http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2621vt.jpg)
(http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/663/2638em.th.jpg) (http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2638em.jpg)
"Yo son, I had crazy visions" :lol:

Quote from: MochaNutz
What else is new, I bought the MF DOOM Special Herbs Box Set for $24.99.  Its like $22.99 for the separate volumes, but at $24 for 0-9 and mixed together, its a bargain!
You lucky bastard! I paid 20 euros for Vol. 1&2.

Quote from: MochaNutz
Also bought the King Geedorah.  Its one of my favorite DOOM albums.  Impulse buy, i just saw it and I asked, "When am I gonna see this again?" haha
Word. King Geedorah is one of the best produced albums ever, some of the beats are fucking out of this world :shocked:
Fastlane is my shit :yep:

Quote from: MochaNutz
Wasn't the J Dilla - The SHining supposed to come out soon?
According to undergroudhiphop.com the release date is August 22nd.

Quote from: Samuel L. Jackson
HEADS UP! The whole DANGERDOOM EP is up.
128kbps version:
http://rapidshare.de/files/22510872/Dangerdoom_EP.rar.html
Overall the Ep is nothing special but Madlib's remix of Space Ho's is crazy dope.

Quote from: Affen SS
But the Ice Cube Album is great! :)
Uh, I downloaded that album a while ago but forgot to actually listen to it :lol:
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Post by: daigong on June 09, 2006, 09:25:07 AM
Peanuts and Wu-Tang make a perfect combo! :lmao: HOW YOU AIN'T GOT MY SHIT WHEN I LET YOU HOLD IT!?

Anyone listen to DMX's new album? I heard he got all spiritual. even wants to drop "DM" (Dark Man)
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Post by: MochaNutz on June 18, 2006, 05:26:20 PM
hey, did anyone ever get all the passwords for the wu-tang Forever cd?  I know you can just browse the disk, but yeah, I kinda wanna know what they were.  I remember the first for the GZA clip was Unity i think.
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Post by: Masa on June 18, 2006, 05:41:21 PM
Quote from: MochaNutz
hey, did anyone ever get all the passwords for the wu-tang Forever cd?  I know you can just browse the disk, but yeah, I kinda wanna know what they were.  I remember the first for the GZA clip was Unity i think.

I google'd it and found these:
1. peace
2. stanley cups
3. blazini
4. grouch
5. nahmean
6. wei wei
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Post by: Masa on June 23, 2006, 08:15:03 AM
Dope ass interview with The RZA:
http://www.asiaarts.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=30240

He talks about asian culture, martial arts and movies. RZA is that dude :bow:
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Post by: Masa on June 24, 2006, 03:55:37 PM
Hov!

We are gonna celebrate the 10 year anniversary of Jay-Z's classic debut album Reasonable Doubt today on HiP HoP Hizzy (http://forum.jphip.com/showthread.php?t=1638). We will play the whole album (+ some of Jay's best songs) so if you wanna hear one of the best rap albums ever recorded you better tune in. :pimp:

After HiP HoP Hizzy it's time to open up them Cris bottles. Our new segment "Afterparty" is also dedicated to Jay-Z and we are gonna give yall Jiggaman's biggest hits from Can I Get A... to Big Pimpin' :yep:

Cocaina

"It’s important to rap music, to hip-hop—hell, at this point, it’s important to popular culture in general. But Jay-Z’s first album, Reasonable Doubt, is most important to one person: Jay-Z himself.

How much does Reasonable Doubt mean to Jay-Z?

Last year, with a deal on the table offering him the presidency of the most revered label in hip-hop, complete ownership of his seven other albums (all of them platinum or multiplatinum) and the company he’d cofounded a decade earlier with his friends Damon Dash and Kareem “Biggs” Burke, Jay said he’d give it all up for one thing: sole possession of the publishing rights to his 1996 debut, Reasonable Doubt.

In the end, Dame and Biggs declined to sell him their shares of the masters. Jay took over Def Jam and kept the Roc-A-Fella name, clearly coming out on top. But when you think about it, you can see why he wanted Reasonable Doubt so badly. Why it’s so special to him. With one album, his first album, Jay-Z changed the old story’s ending. Look at the movies. Your favorite bad guy rarely makes it to the credits with his freedom or heartbeat still in effect—especially when he’s trying to be a good guy. Carlito dies on the train platform, George Jung’s busted in Blow. “Every time I try to get out,” says Godfather Michael Corleone, “They pull me back in.” Somehow, Brooklyn drug dealer Shawn Carter used his single Lotto ticket, the gift of rhyme, to avoid the seemingly inevitable 25 years in the penitentiary or an early burial 6 feet in the earth. Fourteen tracks of extraordinary East Coast trap music granted him his freedom and security—and gave us, the listeners, a classic.

The lingo was coded, but the message was clear. Jay never asked for sympathy as he dueled with the duality of dying dormant or living enormous. He just celebrated the struggle with Cristal. The nuances of the underworld never sounded so well lit. Reasonable Doubt told of the life and times of a calculated criminal cold enough to never get caught—but one who yearned to do what so many of his colleagues frowned upon: express emotion.

Ten years since its release, Jay remains retired from rap. (Officially at least.) Now he does his hustling from behind a president’s desk in a skyscraper on the west side of Manhattan. That’s where he sat down with XXL recently to talk about the one album he would have changed everything for. The one album that changed everything for him.

You’ve referred to Reasonable Doubt as your “baby.” You tried to get sole ownership of the masters last year—in fact, you were willing to trade the Roc-A-Fella name. Do you see that as being a major part of your separation with Dame and Biggs?

Nah, nah. It wasn’t over that album. It was growth. You know, people grow in different ways. But in trying to do the right thing, I was like, “Well, I gotta get something.” Like, if you were giving me Reasonable Doubt, then I’ll walk away from Roc-A-Fella—that’s gonna be difficult. It’s something that I just couldn’t just leave without both.

What feelings do you get when you listen to the album today?

Damn, this is gonna sound like a really shameless stunt, but it’s real: Chris Martin of Coldplay is a friend of mine. So when we started kickin’ it, he went back and got Streets Is Watching. He came back the next day and was like [in an English accent], “That’s not my friend. Who the fuck is that?” Even myself, when I listen to that shit, I be like, “Damn, I had just a whole different mentality.” They say you change every five years… I mean, I loved that period, what I was going for and how I was thinking.

What about that period did you love so much? From what’s on the album, it sounds like it was a pretty dark time for you.

To be honest, it’s not right, but I loved that guy. I’m still that person, but the thinking on how to handle situations was different, but just so ill. I listen to songs like “Can I Live” and I say, “What the fuck is that?” And “D’Evils,” that was just some sick, demented…

How long did it take for you to complete the album?

It’s cliché, but I really don’t remember the starting point. Like I can tell you when I did Blueprint, I did nine songs in a weekend. And The Black Album in a month. But Reasonable Doubt felt like I was making that album my whole life. Like I know the first records that I made from that album was “Dead Presidents” and “Ain’t No n****,” because they’re the singles.

This was a time when a radio single wasn’t so mandatory for a rap album. Did you realize you had a hit record on your hands with “Ain’t No n****”?

It’s funny, because I put that whole record together in my head. Even taking [the Four Tops’] “Ain’t no woman like the one I got…,” switching that to the beat. I produced that whole song. Like I wanted to do “Seven Minutes of Funk.” “Ain’t No Woman,” I had crazy problems with Jobete, which is Berry Gordy’s [publishing], over the lyrics. But I just put that song together in my mind. I didn’t know anything about making a hit. I thought they would play “Dead Presidents.” “Dead Presidents” was the A-side! That goes to show how much I know. The B-side was the one that made it to the soundtrack.

At the time, what percentage of your energy was spent on the music, as compared to the streets?

I want to say, umm…70 percent. Because when I said that I was gonna give it a try, I was really just like, “If this shit don’t work, I’m going back. So I’m giving it my all.” Of course, I had street people around me. I was still the same person. So I was freshly out, but I would say 70 percent was into the music, because I spent every day making music. I was going to Jack the Rapper in Atlanta. I was pretty focused when I was creating the album, ’cause there was Maria Davis every Wednesday and the Country Club and all these other things that we were investing time into.

It was Maria Davis’ “Mad Wednesdays” parties that inspired “22 Two’s,” right?

Yeah, that was my secret weapon. Any show I did, I would pull that out. I had that way before. I just did the second verse when I did the album.

Why didn’t you continue the concept past that verse?

I know. I’m not gonna front—I’m so silly about the literal sense of 22 twos that I didn’t want to make any more.

How did your street partners react when you’d say, I gotta go rap at Maria Davis’ tonight?

That’s how “Can’t Knock the Hustle” got made. I wasn’t saying that you can’t knock me for hustling. I was telling the streets you can’t knock my hustle. Because the streets is what I was doing, rap was my hustle. Rappers weren’t getting paid like that. We came pulling up—I don’t even know how we drank this stuff, 40 bottles of Cristal—in cars at events that rappers would be at. And we’d be like, What’s up with these guys? These guys are supposed to be rich. Guys in the streets, they’d look at rappers and be like, “You wanna be like him?” That’s why it took me so long, because I wasn’t doing that. [I knew] the minute I make a wack record or some shit that doesn’t sell, [the record company] will shit on me. [So I was like] I’m not fuckin’ with these people.

You mentioned “D’Evils” earlier. Did actual events inspire the song?

The funny shit about “D’Evils,” this might sound a little weird, but I remember I dreamt the beginning of the song. I called Biggie right after like, “Yo, I made up these fuckin’ bars in my dream.” It was a really weird experience.

Break this down now, because the verses are set up like a kidnap scene. You’re giving your boy’s girl 50 dollar bills in exchange for info. Yet she’s crying, wishing you and her man were still close…

Right, because of the greed she’s taking the money. “About his whereabouts I wasn’t convinced/So I kept giving her money until her shit started to make cents.” Now that’s a line—if you take money and break it down into a literal sense, when you chew money, your body breaks it down and takes what it needs. So when you take a dollar and eat it, it breaks down to cents, right? So I kept feeding her dollars until her shit started to make sense. See, it’s a double entendre. She feels guilty, so she crying because she knows her man is going down because of her. But with her greed, she can’t help but to take the money. That’s why I love that. I love, love that fuckin’ song.

“Friend or Foe,” fiction or nonfiction?
That’s definitely fiction, but it’s nonfiction in its approach. I mean, that shit happens every day. I just moved it just a little bit outside. I mean, I didn’t want to go to jail. Like we got into shit over being a New York guy in whatever town—Virginia, Maryland, every one of my stops.

http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=2471

Jay-Z To Perform Second "Reasonable Doubt" Concert in NY

After selling out New York's RadioCityMusic Hall, Jay-Z is scheduled to hold a preview to his Reasonable Doubt 10-year anniversary celebration at the Nokia Theatre the day before (June 24th).

Reports say tickets for the album's celebration sold out in 5 minutes and are now being scalped for up to $3,000. Heads who didn't get a chance to purchase tickets will get a chance to catch a show at the Nokia Theatre this Saturday. According to Power 105.1 radio personality Egypt, the show will serve as a special preview to Sunday's Concert. The two shows will not be a replica of one another. Tickets go on sale today at 5 p.m. and can only be purchased through tickmasters.

In related news, Jigga is to change all his Crystal-promoting lyrics during Sunday's performance. Hov recently boycotted Cris at his 40/40 club after the drink's managing director Federic Rouzard said the rap community's support was "unwelcome attention."

Hov is also slated to launch an international tour starting in the UK this September. Though dates have yet to be confirmed, Jay will perform in Kenya, France, Nigeria, Ireland, Greece, Egypt, Turkey, Lebanon, UAE, Russia, Poland, Czech Republic, Ghana, Angola, South Africa, China, Thailand, Korea, Taiwan, Japan and Australia.

http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/9252
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Post by: Masa on June 24, 2006, 10:42:39 PM
XXL The Making Of Reasonable Doubt Part 1

Raised by a single mother in Brooklyn’s rough Marcy projects, Shawn “Jay-Z” Carter hit the streets as a teenager and made money, a lot of money, selling drugs. But what he really wanted was a rap career. He hooked up with The Jaz (later Jaz-O), a local artist who had a deal with EMI Records, and cut guest appearances with the likes of Original Flavor and Big Daddy Kane. He made a demo tape and shopped around for a deal of his own, but labels weren’t biting.

Never short on confidence, Jay got with fellow hustlers Damon Dash and Kareem “Biggs” Burke, and, using capital saved from the streets, founded a label, Roc-A-Fella Records, and set to work on a debut album. Recorded at the storied D&D Studios in Manhattan, with production from DJ Premier, Clark Kent, Ski, Jaz, Peter Panic and Irv Gotti, Reasonable Doubt was released June 25, 1996 through a distribution deal with Priority Records. The album didn’t set the world on fire right away. It sold just 420,000 copies its first year out, peaking at No. 23 on Billboard’s album chart, and wasn’t certified platinum ’til 2002. Nevertheless, it announced the arrival of Jay-Hova, the God MC, and its moments—“Dead Presidents,” with the Nas sample that would play so prominently in the greatest rap battle of all time; “Brooklyn’s Finest,” where Jay trades verses with the Notorious B.I.G.; and the hit single “Ain’t No *****,” which turned a 16-year-old Foxy Brown into a household name—loom ever larger with the passage of time.

Jay’s made seven more albums since, and sold over 20 million copies of them. A lot has changed. He and Jaz-O had a falling out, with back-and-forth snipes over credit and loyalty. Roc-A-Fella grew to be an empire, of course, one that would eventually span music, fashion, movies and liquor. Last year, Jay split from Dame and Biggs and took over Def Jam Records—and kept the Roc-A-Fella name for himself. People believe now.

On this 10th anniversary, XXL pays homage, revisiting the creation of a classic with those who were there. —Justin Monroe


1. “Can’t Knock the Hustle” (feat. Mary J. Blige)

Produced by Knowbody
Coproduced by Sean Cane and Dahoud

Knowbody: I made the beat at my mama’s house. It was probably like ’94. You know, Dame lived in 1199, which is right across the street from where I lived at. I know there was air [in the mix] and everything. I want to go back to doing beats like that.

The whole time after we gave Dame the beat and after he picked it, from then on we called like every week like, “What’s up? Can you find out what’s up?” They’d be like, “He’s writing.” So I don’t know if he was actually writing. Dame just told me, “Quit calling me.”

Sean Cane: I remember thinking if they really wanted to keep the beat. I remember I kept calling Dame. He was like, “Nah, he’s writing to it.” I don’t know if it was just being that they were trying to stall, but they just kept saying, “He’s writing to it. Getting Mary.” We was excited. Before we got Mary, we put Veronica on it to reference the song. Veronica, the Spanish singer, she was on Hola Records. Mary came in the day of the mix to do her vocals. She just really came in to do her part.

When Jay went in to do the clean vocals, I was like, “I think you messed up on this one. I think you could do this part here [again].” I forgot whether it was on the “*****” or the “player.” I was like, “I think that part you could say it a little better.” He was like, “Play it back.” He’s like, “You’re wildin’.” That was in Platinum Island. That’s where it was mixed at. But it was recorded at D&D, where they paid *****s with the shoe box of money. It was either fives or ones. It was ones. We had to count it. Jay and Dame, they came with the shoe box of money. Their whole ****, coming with the logo, they was hungry. They was grinding. We sat at the studio with the shoe box of money, and it was three people counting the money. It wasn’t a lot. It was less than 10 Gs, put it like that. That same day is the day they brought in the Roc-A-Fella logo. They came in with the Roc-A-Fella logo, and were showing it to Jay like, “Yo, what you think about this for the logo?”

2. “Politics As Usual”

Produced by Ski

Ski: I was riding in the car with my baby’s mama. I had it on the oldies-but-goodies station, and I hear “Hurry Up This Way Again” by the Stylistics. I said, “Yo, this **** is crazy. If I sample this here, and chop it up right and let Jay hear it, he got to hear that **** and love it.” That same day, she took me to the old record store, and I took it home that night and chopped it up and played it for Jay the next day. He was going crazy for it. A funny thing is, at the same time, Clark actually found the sample too and did it. But I think the one I did was just a tad bit hotter. No disrespect to Clark, the one I did was just a tad bit hotter. That’s one of my favorite records to this day. I think that was the blueprint to what Kanye and Just are doing now, the whole soulful voice thing.

Jay was quick with the verses. Back then, he might have wrote two verses down on paper, but he never really wrote it down. I would sometimes glance down and see three words on his paper, but the ***** doing a whole song. I’m like, What’s he rapping from?

When I got paid for these records on Reasonable Doubt I used to go to Dame’s crib, and I remember them giving me a book bag just full of money.

I used to just get on the train. If *****s knew I had thousands of dollars in a backpack…

Clark Kent: It’s crazy, ’cause the same day that Ski brought him that beat, I brought him the same beat like an hour later. Jay was like, “Dag, I think yours is a little better.” ’Cause mines was pretty sounding, because I made it big and very clear. But Jay was like, “You know how we do it, and real is real. He gave it to me first.” So he did his version instead of doing my version of the same thing.
Me being a music business guy, I was like, “Which one’s better?” He was like, “Clark, that’s not right to switch one. He came first. And Ski is our boy.” So that’s how it was. And not for nothing, it was no love lost, ’cause Ski is my *****. So I was just like, “Go ahead, do it. You’re right.” That’s the way we are. I don’t even know if Ski knows it went down like this.

Lenny Santiago: I remember Ski was doing a group—I don’t know if this is supposed to be out there, but whatever—he was doing Camp Lo. That was his group. He was very heavily involved with them. And actually, one or two of the songs were Camp Lo’s. “Feelin’ It” and “Politics As Usual.” I’m almost positive those were Camp Lo’s. And Jay ended up hearing them, and was like, “Oh no, no, no. I need that.” No dis-respect to them, but he just felt it so much, and he recorded it, and it ended up being his record.

3. “Brooklyn’s Finest” (feat. Notorious B.I.G.)

Produced by Clark Kent

Irv Gotti: I did not want that record to happen. I was adamantly against it. I would call Jay every day like, “No, **** that! Don’t do this record.” I said, “What I’m scared of is you doin’ [a record] with Biggie and you comin’ off like his little man. And *****, we can’t be owning **** if you his little man. You never gon’ get that throne.” But this ***** would call me and be like, “Nah, but Gotti, I’m tellin’ you, I’m gonna show ’em. I’m gon’ make people see that I’m that *****.”

Jay and Big had a lot of love, but at that particular time it was very competitive. Go ’head and listen to that record—“It’s time to separate the pros from the cons/The platinum from the bronze…” Real talk, Big’s goin’ at Jay in that record. “You ain’t harmin’ me/So pardon me…” Trust me. He’s goin’ at him real tough.

Lenny Santiago: I was doing promotion at the time, and we were at the video shoot for “Dead Presidents.” If you remember, Biggie was in the video. And it was during a break, Damon was being Damon, and everyone was around talking—Jay, Big, Lil’ Cease, D. Roc—and Damon approached Biggie, like, “What’s up with that record? You gonna do something with Jay?” And Big was like, “Whatever, *****. I’m waitin’ on y’all. Whatchu sayin’?” Dame was like, “I’m sayin’, though, we could do it right now.” At the time, Jay was comin’ up and Big was the ****. He had the biggest record out, Puff was doing his thing, and Bad Boy was on fire. So Dame was trying to put him to the test. And they kept going back and forth, and Big was like, “Man, listen, whatever, anytime, anywhere.” So Dame called Clark Kent like, “I got Big right here, he wants to do that record with Jay, whatever, whatever.” So that same night, they ended up recording the record. And Clark did the track, and it was a classic. It was just funny how it happened from being put on the spot.

Biggs: Biggie came to the video for “Dead Presidents,” and he was saying how much he liked Jay, the whole style. Dame was talking about it, and said, “Do a record tomorrow.” Him and Dame was drinking. They drank like five bottles of Cristal, shot for shot. Dame threw up outside. Dame had told Biggie to call the next day at five o’clock. I remember being in the office, and at five o’clock the phone rings. We went to the studio, and we spoke to him. We had a date, and they went in and recorded. It was funny, ’cause they came in with a pad, and Jay pushed the pad to Biggie. They’re both looking at the pad like, Go ahead, you take it. No, you take it. That’s when they found out that both of them didn’t write.
That day we went in, I think Jay laid down his whole part. Biggie lay down like a line or two, then he said he couldn’t finish, he had to go home and finish it. We had Biggie come and smoke 60 blunts. But he came back and laid down a little bit more, left again, and then he came back and finished it. We had fun the first [session]. Afterward, we all went to see Bernie Mac at Radio City Music Hall.

Dame Dash: We didn’t do all of “Brooklyn’s Finest” in D&D. We had to come back to it, ’cause that didn’t have a hook. Me and Clark Kent had to make up a hook. We had to hand it in like the next day. Me and Clark and Biggs was in the studio, then Biggs left, and we finally got it, me and Clark Kent. Clark was trying to get me on the hook. We took a rhyme from the song, “Jay-Z and Biggie Smalls, *****, **** your drawers…,” and he was trying to get me to say it. I was like, “I’m not gonna do it.” I got Clark to do it.

Clark Kent: I just freshly came off of tour with Big. We were doing Junior M.A.F.I.A.’s [debut album], and he heard the beat and went crazy. He was like, “I want the beat.” I was like, “Nah, it’s Jay’s beat.” He’s like, “You’re always giving this guy everything.” He wanted that beat real bad. I’m leaving the studio to go to D&D to track it for Jay, and Big’s like, “Yo, I want to be on that record.” So I was like, “Yo, just come with me.” So I went upstairs, and I left him downstairs. I was like, “Big wants to be on that record. Why don’t you put Big on that record? He heard the beat. He likes it.” Jay was like, “I don’t really know him like that.” And Dame was like, “I ain’t paying him, neither.” I was just like, Ah, okay. So then I’m like, “If I get him to do it for free would you do it?” He was like, “Yeah, we’ll try it.” So I run downstairs. I go get Big, bring him upstairs, and they met each other the right way, properly. And everybody was like, “Well, if you’re going to do it for whatever…” Jay changed the verses around right there, and was like, “This is where you go, right there. You ready?” Big was like, “I can’t do this right now!”

Two months later, Big came back with his verses. Days later, I was mixing it, and there was no hook. We were supposed to do the hook when we were mixing it. And Jay says, “All right, you got to scratch something.” I’m trying to find things to scratch and nothing’s working. So I’m telling Jay, “Yo, y’all gotta come up with a hook.” Jay and Big are there. We’re at Giant Studios. Big goes, “I’ll be back, I’m going to the store.” And then an hour goes by, and he doesn’t go back. Then Jay goes, “I’ll be back.” They leave me there and never come back. So it’s like three in the morning, I decided to write a hook, and I performed the hook. That’s my voice.

To me, that’s the best collabo I’ve ever heard. You would never think that Jay’s verses were done so far in advance. It feels like they did it together. Big and Jay were that talented, they could pick up on that line and go from that line.

I’d made the beat before for one of Damon’s groups. He had a group called the Future Sound, and I remixed the record with the same beat. And Damon said, “Yo, that beat is hot, give it to Jay.” So he says he produced it because he said give it to Jay. How ridiculous is that? But whatever, it’s all good. And then the other day he told me I jerked him because I didn’t give him publishing.

4. “Dead Presidents II”

Produced by Ski

Ski: When I first found the sample and I threw the Nas thing in there, I liked the record a lot. But it wasn’t my favorite record. I really loved it after Jay got on it. That’s what made me a fan of “Dead Presi-dents.” It was an old jazz sample, Lonnie Liston Smith [“A Garden of Peace”]. And Nas [“The World Is Yours (Remix)”]. When Nas was hot a the time, Nas’ voice was crazy. And when Jay threw in the lyrics, the first verse, the way he came on was bananas.

Clark Kent: I heard the second version when I was on the road with Big. I was playing “Dead Presidents” over and over again. The first and the second one. I was like, “Big, my boy rap better than you.” And he was sick, ’cause I kept telling him. Everybody was mad at me. On the bus, I was like the alien for even trying it. But after Big heard that, this is before they met to do “Brooklyn’s Finest,” he was like, “Clark, that dude got it. He got it. He got it.” That let me know that I wasn’t crazy.

5. “Feelin’ It” (feat. Mecca)

Produced by Ski

Ski: It was me and Geechi Suede from Camp Lo, it was my hook and everything. Jay heard it and was like, “I want that record. I don’t care what you do, I want that record.” I didn’t want to give it to him, but I had to because I knew he was going to be the man at the time. So I said, “**** it, take the record.” It really was me and Suede from Camp Lo, the flow and everything, the way he was flowing on it. That’s the way we was flowing on it. So he just took the whole thing. But you know, he killed it in his own way.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on June 26, 2006, 01:36:15 AM
Quote from: MochaNutz
hey, did anyone ever get all the passwords for the wu-tang Forever cd?  

Y'all ever able to play the videos? It was like some quicktime clips, but it doesn't work on my newer computer anymore.

Wu-Tang is gonna be hitting New Orleans for the Voodoo fest:
http://www.filter-mag.com/news/interior.3304.html

Gotta be some good summer shows this year...when those carnies roll into town. :pimp:

Props to Kardinal Offishall for winning 3 Much Music Video Awards!
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002690183

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Canadian rapper Kardinal Offishall's "Everyday (Rudebwoy)" released by Toronto indie label Black Jays, was the night's big winner, taking home three of the
17 awards. It won top video, director honors for Ray Robinson and a VideoFACT award.
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Post by: Popcorn Joe on June 27, 2006, 12:37:43 AM
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c260/popcornissmelly/pics/z-ro_concert_ti.jpg)

    Well, im just getting into him myself, but from what i hear, he's different from the regular mainstream rap acts down here in the south. I see Z-RO (born Joseph Wayne McVey) as a street poet (cheesy, yes) speaking from the heart about surviving in the streets and his past expiriences with old friends that turned their backs on him and shit like that. Yes, he does have those songs about robbin, fuckin hoes, and flossin through the hood, but i tend to ignore those...unless they have a nice beat xD
With his patna's from  the S.U.C.  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screwed_Up_Click) they've become a major influence on the culture here and give hope to the youths that are in the same predicaments.

 His Wiki entry  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Ro)
And a song that i upped:Help   Me Please  (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=CDB94EF0252B8721)
Note: *i plan on upping some more later
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Post by: Masa on July 01, 2006, 09:08:01 AM
Thanks Joe. I'm definitely gonna play that song on HHH today. You should upload more dirty south shit cause I ain't got much.
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Post by: Popcorn Joe on July 01, 2006, 06:40:09 PM
k man, i'll up a few more today
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on July 02, 2006, 09:34:31 PM
Check this shit out!

Busta Rhymes Ft. Eminem, Lloyd Banks, DMX - I Love My Bitch & Touch It Remix Live At The BET AWARDS TBOHipHop.net.mpg
(http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/884/fuckuhps6ll.jpg)
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=0EE6CB413054CB28
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Post by: Masa on July 05, 2006, 10:55:17 AM
Props, that perf is pretty dope :yep:

MF Doom Interview

Pootle tells us that his latest interviewee needs no introduction so here’s an exclusive interview with the ever-elusive Daniel Dumile aka MF DOOM. Enjoy...

It’s July 4th this week…and given that you were born in England (and I gather your parents are West Indian?) Does July 4th mean much to you and will you be celebrating?

Oh 4th of July? Actually, it’s like another day I can work to get ahead of the game. That’s how I look at all holidays out here really. I don’t think anything besides "Oh, it’s an off day so I can work today and get ahead." You know what I mean hehehe? But I dunno… Everyone else has fun on that day and I might take advantage of the fact that everybody’s home (my wife is home, my kids are home, people are barbequing) but I don’t necessarily celebrate the particular day though.

And given that you’re a kinda multi-national sorta person, have you been following the soccer World Cup and if so, who have you been supporting?

Nah man – my Pops has been mad at me! See my Pops, he’s been playing Soccer ‘n shit for mad years right? But I never really got into sports at all in general. So, like I say, rather than playing sports, I would be like "Okay…Yo-no! I’ll make a beat today." I’m a writer, kinda nerd kinda dude so I haven’t been keeping up on it nah.

You’ve been in the game for mad long now and you’ve got a very uncanny ear for picking up dialogue and the way people talk. How do you keep up with the modern slang and the latest lingo in hip hop?

Yes it’s different sources…hmmm…I won’t reveal my sources but it’s different sources. You’ve got to do your research. It’s a lot of reading of course. I’ll pick up different dictionaries and they have different dictionaries specified to eras of slang and whatnot. Some are more in depth than others but you’ve got to dig and find the ones that have what you’re looking for (that have the most odd sayings). But then again, a lot of it comes from just looking at old movies from different eras (‘50s, ‘60s, ‘70s) and just really hearing the people speak. You can’t get it better than if you actually watch something and hear them. When you read it, you’re going on how you think they might have said it (they might have the definition there) but it might not being as good as actually hearing it being used in a sentence. For more modern stuff though? Stuff that’s so new, like slang and the latest up-to-date shit? Well I’m kinda old. I be in the house, I don’t be in the club or in the Streets or nothing like that. But I’ve got younger people that I know that they keep their ear to the streets for me. Every once in a while they let me know what the new Word is.

Well I suppose you’ve got teenaged kids now? Can you keep up with how they talk these days?

Oh yeah! Yeah definitely. They more or less learned to speak from…well it’s different nowadays. If it wasn’t for me, they wouldn’t pick up much slang. They don’t speak like me: they speak more proper…I wouldn’t say "Queen’s English" but it’s like more Standard English for now. The way they teach them at school is more on some..and nobody’s trying to be "cool" like that in the schools they go to anyway. No matter how much slang I might talk, they always come home from school speaking standard, good English. I might curse here and there but they just refuse to do that. It’s kinda cool.

Let’s talk a bit about you and your career. Where you are now, I’d say that you as an artist enjoy the most freedom out of any rap artist I’ve ever known to do what you want. If you compare yourself to say, fellow Rhymesayers artist Slug, he’s trying to branch out but he gets a lot of flack and he’s often maligned for…painting outside the lines. What do you think it is about you that’s allowed you to be so free as an artist and as a lyricist?

 Well…I’ve been doing this for a while…I’m up to a point where my credentials ain’t really questioned. Ain’t nobody’s really going to try and question me. I’ve been rhyming since day #1, before even me and my brother was making money off this shit. So it’s almost like a respect for the veteran: "Yo that crazy old man!? Let him do whatever he wants to do, fuck it!" It’s kinda like that in a way but it’s still kinda in a respectful way. And I see how Slug does it too. And it’s difficult for me too. It’s not always easy even for me. Every time you try to break into new ground and set trends, you get some type of offensive flack for it…until you pull it off and then everybody’s sweating you and shit right? I get that too. But I just ignore that shit: "Whatever. I’m just doing me." This is me and this is how I do my shit. Nothing is set in stone anyway. Somebody made up the standard of maybe only one album a year and people just tend to follow that. It’s human behaviour: we tend to follow whatever works for the next guy. But then I’m like yo! In my experience, sometimes what the next guy does don’t work for me. Matter of fact, with everything I can think of, it doesn’t work like that. I had to find my own way early so that’s the stuff that I do normally. I’ll look at what the standard way of doing it is and I’ll be like "’ight. I’ll do it this way. This works. I’ll put my mark on it." I’ll update it and make it for me. So I’ve brought that same mentality into the game. This is something that comes from this being a self-employment thing. I look at it like this: if I’m the one who’s writing it and I’m the one who’s recording this, well then I should have full decision over how I do it on all perimeters and everybody else should work round that. A lot of times in the hip hop game, you’ve got people other than the artists dictating the process and the artists are trying to conform to that. And yeah it’s flexible and artists are people who want to please others. But you’ve got artists conforming to a game that’s designed by people who don’t even do it. That’s the thing. I’m like "Yo we’re the ones doing it so let’s design the game. And these people who are making a living from the sidelines? They’ve got to go by how we do it and if they make money, they lucky."

But what do you think it is about you that’s got all these different labels wanting to put out your material (like Big Dada from the UK putting out the King Geedorah album) and all these producers wanting to do your beats (like the Victor Vaughn albums)? Why do you think it is that all these people are queuing up to work with you and yet other artists aren’t so fortunate?

Uh.. I think that maybe if they would have tried, they would have been as fortunate with it as I was. The people who I work with? I talk to them, let them know how I feel "we’re gonna do this bla bla bla," and we do it. They’re like "Yo I’m with it" because they see I’m serious. I say this, you judge a tree by the fruit it bares. So when they’ve seen me pull it off twice, they know I can do it so either get down with it or don’t. It’s almost like my effort gives them a chance to take a risk ‘cus y’know, they’re used to the status quo shit too. But most of the people I deal with, at our age, one person might be into journalism, this dude might be a record company exec but we’re all the same age. So once you can meet somebody on that level and talk to them like "yo! Let’s do it! Let’s go for it: Yes or no?" You at least need some type of basis to why the theory should work. So I’m like "I did this twice so let’s go for it!" A lot of times, cats just like in a whirlwind of excitement off of it. Like Big Dada and your man over there, my man, your boy Will Ashon. I never met Will in person but we’ve just been doing it over the phone and emails and once we kinda both got the understanding of the shit, the cat was like "Yo fuck it! Let’s do it!" And we did it and it worked out. And I think that’s my appeal. I think if a lot of artists would just take the steps, "yo I’ve got this idea, how about we do it like this?" And however they explained it and made it make sense, yeah you’ll find that people will disagree with it and be like "Nah. I’ve got other concerned and I don’t want to take that risk." But then you’ve got cats like me. So, the people that I deal with are Cats just like me. No matter what field your expertise is in (as I say, you might be a journalist or you might be a record exec or you might just be a cat on the street that’s just putting up the posters) I’m going to find a way that we can relate and like be "Yo let’s just do it!" And just do it. That’s the fun part about it for me and why I do it. Plus! I’m like there’s no limit to nothing yo! Especially nowadays, moving into the future, you’ve got the internet, access to all information yeah?

Yeah.

If the input is more then the output can be greater. So this is just expressing all the input I’ve been getting. I have to find a way to facilitate my expression. One album a year is not going to be enough to facilitate all that information: I have to separate it. Sometimes it’s a difference of opinion involved or just different sides of a coin that determines releases. It’s like in the news, you have to present both sides of a story and let people judge for themselves and I look at my music the same way. If I’m doing an album, Doom may have a view of something that may seem more conservative or strict in certain ways so then I’ll do an album as Vic’ just so Vic’ can pose the other side. Both sides are just as valid: it’s just two of many different points of view.

In the last couple of years, you’ve been known for working with producers and providing the vocals, be that for Madvillain, Victor Vaughn or now DangerDoom. Is there any chance of you putting on your producer’s cap back on and being the producer side of a collaboration?

Yep–Yeap - You must be reading my mind or something yo!? But yeah, it’s gradually going in that direction again. Like Ghostface Killah has this Fish Scale album out?

Yeah.

I had the chance to produce like five joints on that one. That’s more joints than anybody else produced on that joint. So that’s one step in that direction on a major level. I’ve got a whole new slew of instrumentals about to come out. Essential Elements is what I call that album. It’s all based around physics and the periodic table. But then, at the same time, I’m doing another album with Starks (y’know, that’s "Tony Starks," of Ghostface Killah fame) and that’s like a duet album like how Madvillain would be except with me and him. I’ll be producing it but I’ll be rhyming moooooore than Madlib rhymed on the last Madvillain album. But it will be an all-Doom-Production with both Doom and Starks on the mic so that like another notch on the production belt just to rep that side of me a little bit more. An artist coming out on my label is JR (John Robinson). I produced his whole record with the exception of like two songs but I basically put that whole thing together like thematically. So it’s a pretty good album and the n****’s bringing some ill hot shit! I’m looking into the direction of developing artists as well as producing them. I won’t just give somebody a bit, I want to know how they’re going to freak it and their whole presentation of it. That’s what I want to do with your boy Nas if he’ll let me yo! He’s a cool dude…I’ve hit him up with a couple of my shits so… So you’ll hear Doom on a major level, Imma keep repping on an underground level – and just keeping music out there period.

Is there anything you want to do but are currently finding impossible or very difficult to get done?

You know… I never thought it would almost get like this and I almost don’t want to say anything. But it could get like that if I let it get to me. I do have to compromise here and there. Sometimes I’ve got to just go and be alone for maybe two weeks to focus. Sometimes I just can’t be around my family as much as I would like to and stuff like that but I definitely have to make time to do this music. That’s now as opposed to before, when I wasn’t so busy. I didn’t have anything to do, I was broke and my phone wasn’t ringing because nobody was calling so I had time to do things. But Now? It’s busier with so many people trying to get at me, I’ve got more children now and stuff like that so it’s a bit of a balancing act. I’ve got to take time out to go into that cabin – you know how sometimes these writers will go away to some cabin somewhere and lock down with some typewriter or something? It’s almost like that and I’ve got to do it. You’ve definitely you have to make the time to do it. I’ve got so many ideas right now that I don’t even know if I can do them all but I’m trying to find a way to do it. There should, logically, be a way to do it. If I just cut out some of the shit maybe? I don’t go to the clubs anyway so that’s a big plus right there. I might go to the bar but that don’t take no time.

So I take it then that you’ve never suffered from Writer’s Block?

I couldn’t say I was immune to that though. It comes with the length of time: you’ve just got to roll with it. It clears up but when it comes, that just means "Alright. Right now’s just not my time to write: I’ve got to do something else". I’ll listen to music or go do something else instead until it clears up. The whole writing thing? It comes in waves to me. It’s a kind of energy thing where, when it hits you, it hits you: you’ve just got to hope that you have a pen and a pad ready to take down that information. Sometimes it comes to me and I’ll laugh at the rhyme "Awh shit! That was an ill one!" But forget to write it down and then, the next day, I try to remember it and it’s gone. So it’s a matter of trying to be professional. It’s about keeping a pen and a pad and write that shit down, collect them all and then spit them. The writer’s block will come and go and I ain’t going to say I’m immune to it.

Totally on a different tangent: one of the guys that gave you your early break was MC Serch and I don’t know if you know but he’s putting together a reality TV programme called "The White Rapper Show" which, I gather, is a spoof reality TV series about White Rappers. I wonder if you had any comments about that?

Heheheheh: sounds interesting.

Don’t you think it’s a bit of a step backward for American hip hop culture and race relations there in?...Nah, I dunno….?

I have to see the show to truly comment on that one. But knowing Michael, the way he probably freaked it, it’ll have to have a twist to it because he’s a smart dude. He’s probably covered all the angles and all that. But it depends: I have to see it to comment really.

Which did you prefer: X-Men III or The Fantastic Four movie?

Oh alright… I have to say that being a comic-book fan –

"None of them?" Hehehehe?

Well that’s harsh but that’s the truth. Looking back, when we used to read those joints when we was younger, we had to picture in our heads the actual action sequences. Yes they have pictures in the comicbooks of course but it’s a two-dimensional still-frame. But then in our imagination, we could really see them flying or cutting some dude in half and we could really picture it. Some of these films I wouldn’t even bother to go and see but with The X-men joint? I think I brought my nephew and my son with me and we just went and saw it…. And, well y’know: I’m no fan of remakes from comics to movies. You know, with all the digital shit, it wasn’t as ill as Lou Farigno. The whole digital shit made it kind of corny. But if I had to choose any one that I would say was the closest depiction and the most accurate recreation, it would have to be X-men. That Fantastic Four shit!? As soon as I saw Doom with that ugly-ass cape on, I knew I wasn’t going to bother go see. It was like corny: they changed the story around too much. Some of them are not supposed to be in some people’s hands. You’ve got to leave it in the hands of somebody that’s going to do justice to it you know what I mean? The first X-men movie? That shit was kinda ill!

Excellent! Now your Homeboy Ghostface, when he was in the Wu they had a comic book out – and I know that subsequent to that, Ghostface released like an action figure – y’know, a doll? Are you going to be doing a similar multi-media thing?

Oh no doubt! No doubt. Starks is a leader in the industry and cutting-edge technology so he always kinda beats us all to the punch. But every time he does something like that, it opens doors for us less fortunate to come through hehehehe. He broke the ice. So yeah you’ll probably see some Doom merchandise out there similar to that – but it’s still gotta have a Doom twist. It won’t be anything that you can really imagine. It’ll have something bugged out about it – like the mask is not removable or some ill shit like that. I’ve got some ill shit in the works. I’ve got a cartoon I’m working on… I’ve got a lot of ill-dope shit coming up. Nobody will be bored with what I have coming.

Excellent! I’ve heard, through the grapevine, that King Geedorah’s making a comeback? Can you tell me who’s going to be playing the other two heads – because I gather you’re not tight with one of the former members of King Geedorah if that’s correct?

Oh. I hire artists to do this shit. With King Geedorah, how it will be is that…well, it’s always going to be different motherfuckers on that shit. It don’t matter who I’m "tight" with or not or whatever: it’s always going to be new motherfuckers every time as I’m bringing new artists out. I’ll break an artist in, give them a chance to shine and then I’m going on to the next artist. It’s up to them if they want to sink or swim. If they want to get personal or any of that bullshit, that’s up to them. But me? I’m on some rough and rugged art shit. So on the new Geedorah shit, you might hear…Lord Smog – If I can find them, they’re my peoples. You’ve got a couple of different Cats – like Cats who couldn’t fit on the last album – like…this cat Mulgera, he’s an artist I’m going to get on this one…. People I’m not "tight" with? Whatever. Them motherfuckers wouldn’t turn down no money, I’ll bet you that much. If I need a horn section, Imma hire me a horn section – WHATEVER!

What have you got in your Walkman or on your IPod at the moment?

Oh. You know I just got one of those IPod things. I tried to stay away from it but y’know I got pulled into the whole technological thing and couldn’t avoid it no more right? So what do I have on it? Mostly Jazz and Brazilian stuff. The joint Alter Ego by James Williams. The Kenny Darren Trio did another version of that so I’ve got a few versions of Alter Ego on there. Then I have Brazilian stuff on there too like Georgie Ben, some Caetano Veloso and stuff like that. I don’t keep too much hip hop on there unless it’s a song that I’m working on and I’ve got to listen to to add a verse or fix something. It’s mainly stuff like that that influences hip hop and not necessarily hip hop that’s already made. I would like to get back to listening to some of that stuff – it might be interesting. But doing this, I had to make the choice between making hip hop or listening to it. Either I’m a fan or I’m a professional. Right now I’m a professional but I’ve been a fan for a long time. Now I’m in the game, I’ve got to be about my business.

And when you listen to music, are you able to just listen to music for fun? Or are you always listening to music with an ear toward sampling it?

See mainly I just listen to listen. But then, I look for music to complement the mood to wherever I’m at. Whether you’re on the beach, in the park or at home, whether you’re alone or in a party situation, music sets the tone. Sometimes I might go to a party and they might be playing some funk but I won’t notice: I’m just there with my friends. But then somebody will play a record and I’ll be "Shit! What the fuck was that!?" I may be listening to jazz just to tune out – y’know: I feel like chilling out; the kids aren’t here; I’ve got a couple days by myself; I want to get into the mood to write. So I mostly listen to jazz. It’s mostly instrumental so it doesn’t throw my words off. But then, I might hear something that might come in ten minutes into the record like some drums and I’m like "Snap!" I guess that that’s a side effect of casual listening.

Here in the UK, some politicians have started kicking up a fuss over Rap lyrics all over again. Do you censor what your kids listen to? Do you take an active interest in what your kids listen to?

I definitely take an active interest in what they’re listening to. I’m aware of what’s out there. I’m like this: if you drive your children in the right direction and let them know what’s going on in the world (pros AND cons), I’m noticing they themselves, if they are giving the opportunity to choose for themselves, they usually choose the right one – especially if they use you their parent as an example. My son is fourteen. He don’t listen to Rap shit at all. He’s more like me. But then I’ve got a son who’s three, he’s new to the world. So if BET is on and he hears a beat he likes, he’s going to be jamming to that beat. My Mom’s like "don’t be putting that on whilst he’s here…put some childrens’ programmes instead." But I can see how certain sounds might be appealing to him so I’ll explain it to him as he gets older. I’ll explain the content and make sure to instil the right morals and whatnot. But I think that with children in general, if you show them both sides of the coin and be honest with them – and don’t try to hide anything from them – they generally get a head start on things. Yes they see what their peers are doing but they also see what their parents are doing. My sons are my best friends – and if you treat kids like that, it generally works out good.

I’m coming to the end of my questions – Phew! We got through them quickly… Can you tell me a bit about what you have got lined up after the new Dangerdoom? Is there anything else we should be looking out for?

Yeah: right now we’ve got the Dangerdoom remixes. It’s like I did a whole other nine songs real quick. What with the momentum of the album, I got the opposite of writer’s block I guess. What’s the opposite of "writer’s block?" Once you break writer’s block and you’ve got the momentum going, you’ve got a lot of residual shit left so a lot of that went into the Dangerdoom remixes – available online @ cartoonnetwork.com or at adultswim.com for free download. So that’s something I did. I’m working on part 2 of Madvillainy right now – that’s coming out bananas! It’s going to feel like a continuation but at the same time, you won’t know what to expect. Also the Doom/Stark duet album is coming soon. Like I say, it’s my production but I might let somebody catch some wreck too. It’ll be me and Starks and I’ll try to keep ahead of him as possible on a lyrical tip but you’ve got to understand I’m doing the beats too – I’m not making any excuses heheheh. What else? A straight-up Doom album will come later… After all these duet joints, you’ll hear from The Villain in canon form like that. Of course the next Geedorah album… I’m doing something with your boy Nas like I said before – it might be a duet kind of thing similar to the Ghost joint. So there’s things going on in the mainstream, things going on in the so-called "Underground" and just keeping it interesting all around.

Just to very finally draw things to a close, if you want to end with any shout-outs, words of wisdom or (once again) flag up anything we should be checking for in the near future?

Like I said: The Dangerdoom album is still out there; the remixes are out there; Support Dangermouse because he’s a good dude; my production records; Me and Tony Starks/Ghostface Killah are working on our album right now; Ghostface’s album Fish Scale is out right now and that shit is banging so if you haven’t checked that, go check that. Other than that? Listen to Rap and you’ll hear about the Villain.

http://www.ukhh.com/features/interviews/mfdoom/index.html

Nas + Doom beats = :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on July 06, 2006, 07:46:38 AM
Him and Cee Lo rescheduled a live due to World Cup !!

HEY!! Gather in E-town on July 22nd at the local Carny.

Kardinal Offishall LIVE feat Jully Black!! Free with that 9 bucks admission. gates open at noon
http://www.capitalex.ca/telus_stage.html
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on July 12, 2006, 06:24:02 AM
YO! check out this dope site:

http://www.mixtapetorrent.com/mixtapes
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: maliciel on July 16, 2006, 01:31:39 PM
Quote from: Masa
Dope ass interview with The RZA:
http://www.asiaarts.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=30240

He talks about asian culture, martial arts and movies. RZA is that dude :bow:


Long overdue, but goddamn that was a nice interview :O
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: maliciel on July 18, 2006, 05:46:15 PM
So I read that Will.I.Am thinks hip-hop is shit now, and doesn't wanna be associated with it. And as an attempt to revive this deadass thread, what do you peoples think?
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on July 19, 2006, 08:19:03 PM
Quote
So I read that Will.I.Am thinks hip-hop is shit now, and doesn't wanna be associated with it. And as an attempt to revive this deadass thread, what do you peoples think?


meh, my first reaction is, he's just trying to cover himself up for going pop =P  I'll think about it more later though.


So!!

Half a year has gone by.

Candidates for top 10 Albums of the year? =)
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Tanier on July 19, 2006, 08:40:54 PM
I've never heard of Will.I.Am but I'll look into Will.I.Am...
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on July 19, 2006, 11:40:47 PM
Quote from: Maliciel
So I read that Will.I.Am thinks hip-hop is shit now, and doesn't wanna be associated with it. And as an attempt to revive this deadass thread, what do you peoples think?
That's a great question. I started writing my reply about an hour ago but I'm just too tired to finish it now. I still need to babble more so I'm gonna post my epic "Why hiphop sucks in '06" essay tomorrow or something. It's sadly gonna be my longest post ever :lol:  

Quote from: MochaNutz
Half a year has gone by.

Candidates for top 10 Albums of the year? =)
In no particular order:
- Ghostface Killah - Fishscale
- Bronze Nazareth - The Great Migration
- The Roots - Game Theory
- Jay Dee - Donuts
- Apathy - Eastern Philosophy
- Gnarls Barkley - St. Elsewhere
- Cunninlynguists - A Piece of Strange
- Cut Chemist - Audience's Listening
- Murs - Murray's Revenge
- Boot Camp Clik - The Last Stand

Quote from: lilday
I've never heard of Will.I.Am but I'll look into Will.I.Am...
You have never heard of the Black Eyed Peas? :shock:
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on July 21, 2006, 03:42:12 PM
New GZA Album Confirmed

A new GZA/Genius album has been confirmed!

We can not tell you too many details at this moment about this album, other than Its scheduled for a possible October 2006 release on record label Liquid Swords Entertainment/Babygrande. Check the email directly from Dreddy Kruger for more info...

Peace 36, Yes It Is A Real Album Coming Out From Gza....the title of the album is not confirmed yet & it will be coming out on LIQUID SWORDS ENTERTAINMENT/BABYGRANDE the album will b A&R By DREDDY KRUGER & Trust me it will b something special ; I cant really give to many details yet about features & producers yet; But The album will have a few surprises for sure..& it will b a CD a Storybook & a Short Film...

http://www.wutang-corp.com/news/article.php?id=705

:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: maliciel on July 23, 2006, 02:31:30 PM
http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=11692

lol late, but :o
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Post by: daigong on July 23, 2006, 10:35:10 PM
Top 10 huh...damn that's hard. Can I count GZAs latest? I can smell RZA's influence on it!

And yeah son. Will.I.am. SOLD OUT!!

DMX has a new reality show? WTF?
(http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/7963/dmx9ea.jpg)
http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=1fef0b0

epic post coming up :D :D
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on July 24, 2006, 11:27:03 AM
Went to Kardinal Offishall show on Saturday!

Jully Black (singer of many Kardinal's hooks) opened the show.

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DAAAAMNN!!! What an asss!! I fumbled for the video mode, I was like :drool:

SEE SHORT CLIP! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krztWefM7Bc

Kardinal Offishall came on the stage around 9:30 and  totally ripped it up!! He performed lot of his hits Last Standing Soldier, Everyday Rudebwoy, Bakardi Slang, Money Jane and even Bob Marley classic "Is This Love?" the crowd was pretty wild, morons fighting in a corner, cops, security all over. water bottles chucked. But yeah, dude is an amazing performer. If you have a chance, CHECK HIM OUT!! A HO IS A HO!

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And I was staring right at security, my arm hurt for having it pointed at the stage, there's some parts where I hide the cam just in case. BUTT I bring you The Bootleg Video!! You best believe I'll be playing this on HiP HoP Hizzy on HiP Radio.

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQgvf2DOl-c
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hiien_Mt3I
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSx0lGgTG6w
Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK88qIYWf2k
Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnV2-EUKenw

met him after the show, signed my disc. DAMNED I spent all my batteries on recording the show, I had like enough for a non-flash pic, he said "Whatsup Boss?" :lol:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/DSC01661_t.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/DSC01661.jpg)

I'd really want someday to get a recorded shout out. XD

ETA:

Here's an MP3 of the concert:
http://rapidshare.de/files/26989840/asa.mp3.html
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on July 29, 2006, 01:18:47 PM
(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5907/6996847nh2.jpg)
1. Idlewild Intro
2. Mighty O ft/ OutKast
3. Peaches ft/ Big Boi & Sleepy Brown
4. Idlewild Blue (Don't Chu Worry Bout Me) ft/ Andre 3000
5. Infatuation ft/ Big Boi & Khujo
6. N2U ft/ Big Boi & Sleepy Brown
7. Morris Brown ft/ Big Boi, Scar & Sleepy Brown
8. Chronomentrophia ft/ Andre 3000
9. The Train ft/ Big Boi, Scar & Sleepy Brown
10. Life Is Like A Musical ft/ Andre 3000
11. No Bootleg DVD's (Interlude)
12. Hollywood Divorce ft/ OutKast, Lil Wayne & Snoop Dogg
13. Zora ft/ Andre 3000
14. Call The Law ft/ Big Boi & Janelle Monae
15. Bamboo/Cross (Interlude)
16. Bugg Face ft/ Big Boi
17. Makes No Sense At All ft/ Andre 3000
18. In Your Dreams ft/ Big Boi & Sleepy Brown
19. Percival & Rooster ft/ OutKast
20. Matron Angel ft/ Andre 3000 & Whild Peach
21. Greatest Show On Earth ft/ Andre 3000 & Macy Gray
22. You're Beautiful (Interlude)
23. When I Look Into Your Eyes ft/ Andre 3000
24. Dyin To Live ft/ Andre 3000
25. A Bad Note ft/ OutKast
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Popcorn Joe on August 03, 2006, 10:16:15 AM
here is some more z-ro:

Life  (http://"http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=785F8E017FF89B78)
 In My City  (http://"http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=BA89234E2EA4DC91)
S.U.C.- R.I.P Dj Screw  (http://"http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=C490C63160D278CB)
*sigh* i'll up some more later, im tired right now, lol
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Tanier on August 04, 2006, 03:12:02 AM
http://stalkr.net/clips.php
this site has too many videos. 70.99 GB of Music Videos!
they don't have every body but they have alot of old stuff and alot of new stuff. Mostly rap and r&b, its some rock here and there like metalica, they got beastie boys too. ftp and fast.
I reccomend using flashget, if your download gets interupted you can resume.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on August 04, 2006, 07:53:00 AM
Mos Def Preps New Solo LP

Mos Def is currently gearing up for the release his third solo album titled True Magic.

According to reports, the album is slated for release via Geffen Records on September 26th.

The Brooklyn bred rapper recently released his own converse shoe titled The Chuck Taylor All Star Mid Music. Based on the classic Chuck Taylor All Star sneaker, the shoe is currently available at both Foot Locker and the Converse Web site.

As SOHH previously reported, Mos will be sharing the stage with Talib Kweli, the Wu-Tang Clan, Redman and De La Soul at the 2006 Rock the Bells Concert in San Bernardino, Calif., this weekend.

The two day event will also feature performances from Del Tha Funkee Homosapien, Immortal Technique, Murs, Supernatural, Planet Asia, Aesop Rock and Living Legends.

http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/9525

True Magic better be better than The New Danger. I don't wanna get disappointed twice by one of my favorite MCs.

Quote from: lilday
http://stalkr.net/clips.php
this site has too many videos. 70.99 GB of Music Videos!
they don't have every body but they have alot of old stuff and alot of new stuff. Mostly rap and r&b, its some rock here and there like metalica, they got beastie boys too. ftp and fast.
I reccomend using flashget, if your download gets interupted you can resume.
Thanks :thumbsup
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on August 06, 2006, 01:39:18 AM
So, Black Eyed Peas!  Well, they "changed" but you can't deny their music is catchy.

Anyways!  BEBOT the Music Video(s)!  Gotta represent my Culture! =)

There's 2 of them.  I liked the 2nd one way better.  They went all out on the Hot Filipino Girls, haha.  There's TONS of Cameos in it if you know the Filipino celebs.   Also has my 2 favorite "actresses" Charmaine Star and Kaylani Lei.  Too bad you don't really notice them.

Hehe, the first part is funny.  Typical Filipino Mom =P  She called Taboo "Tabo" haha!  Its like a bucket or tub thats used to pour water and wash your butt with when you do #2.  Or you bring it, like an icecream tub, on long roadtrips.  My mom "forced" me to go out with my older brother and his friends sometimes back then as well.  "Where you going, ha?  A, you take your little brother, ok?  Ran, you stay with your Kuya!" (kuya means older brother)

Anyways

Bebot - Generation 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeFNDUBcrwc

Bebot - Generation 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp0DcffERYs
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MurasakiNeko on August 06, 2006, 06:13:48 AM
Interesting discussion!

I would consider this my one-stop hip-hop/rap thread. :)
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on August 06, 2006, 08:23:37 PM
The Roots - Bread & Butter (Game Theory EP bonus track)
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=49A347A834AE47E2

Making of Game Theory according to ?uestlove:
Quote from: ?uestlove
   but yeah---i don't know who hipped ye (Kanye West) to me working with brion first (member when jon and fionna came to the LA grammy jam session?) but it was going down and then the 4 month blackout occurred and we had no budget from march to july 2005--the months jon had me booked--and by that point (and i aint pointing fingers but i get a feeling who snitched on my newfound colabo secret.)

ye had made jon his new biaaatch and i was fucked. i didn't wanna bitch about too much for sounding like a biaatch but pretty much i was REAL salty when i found out jon was working with ye.

add being homeless without a label for four months not really knowing if jay (Jay-Z) was gonna stick to his words

so add that with riq's (Black Thought) kids being in nawlins in july and not having a clue what was up when katrina went down.

add interscope being dicks and not leaving the budget open til jay signed the contracts (we showed up one day and our longtime studio peeps were like "yall cant record here again til we get the budget back"---so that shit alone took 4 months in which i went from the comfort of electric lady and these nice ass studios to doing the "baby baby baby" drums while watching these mice run in and out of my drum booth.

come to think of it....the "organix" like conditions we had to endure for the first 4 months of song structuring really made and gave this album the dark vibe it has.
Damn, no wonder the album sounds so dark :shock:
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on August 08, 2006, 07:09:41 AM
Mos Def's new disc IS GONNA BE DOPE!!

Y'all heard this one? Hope it's not a repost LOL

(http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/5521/ghostdodcd6.jpg)

http://www.mixtapetorrent.com/dj-dub-dj-victorious-heavy-metal-2#attachments

1 - Intro
2 - Angels - Ghostface Killah & MF Doom
3 - What A Niggy Know (remix) - Kmd
4 - Rhinestone Cowboy - Madvillain (MF Doom & Madlib)
5 - Accordian (Live) - Madvillain
6 - Meat Grinder (Live) - Madvillain
7 - Power Interlude
8 - You Owe Me - Nas (MF Doom blend)
9 - I Hear Voices - MF Doom
10 - Science & Sorcery Interlude
11 - Ante Up Nillas - M.O.P./Wu-Tang Clan (MF Doom blend)
12 - Ferric Interlude
13 - Criminology - Ghostface Killah/Raekwon (MF Doom blend)
14 - Sonic Interlude
15 - Sofa King remix - Dangerdoom (MF Doom & Dangermouse)
16 - One Love - Nas (MF Doom blend)
17 - Foolish Interlude
18 - Space Hos - Dangerdoom (remix By Madlib)
19 - Thats Me - Cam'ron (MF Doom blend)
20 - Mr. Clean - Viktor Vaughn
21 - Two Hands Interlude
22 - Money Folder remix - Madvillain
23 - Doom-Tro
24 - Stan Lee Intro/ Wu Banga 101
25 - Doom-Tro
26 - Stan Lee/Happy & Pepper Interlude
27 - Verbal Intercourse - Ghostface Killah with Nas & Raekwon
28 - Tony'S Money - Ghostface Killah
29 - Good Times - Ghostface Killah with Superb
30 - Momma - Ghostface Killah with Megan Rochelle
31 - Do The Dance - Ghostface Killah with Masta Killah & Raekwon
32 - World'S Best Bodyguard (Interlude)
33 - Project Soap Operas - Ghostface Killah with Trife, Kryme Life & Tommy Whispers
34 - Love Stories - Ghostface Killah with Wigs (Othorized Fam)
35 - I Cant Sleep - Ghostface Killah with Issac Hayes & Rza (Live)
36 - Rainy Days remix - Ghostface Killah with Raekwon
37 - Outro

Eazy-E's boy has some new shit out too, coming soon :D
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on August 08, 2006, 04:18:41 PM
Ghostface and DOOM album, can't wait for it!  Not coming out till Feb 2007 though =(

Anyone cop the new Masta Killa - Made In Brooklyn disc?  I Heard DOOM produced a track on it.  Most likely one of his Herbs.  Hope its a good one.

For some reason, i'm looking forward to the new Method Man album.  His last one was wack, but the tracks he has now are pretty dope.  Fall Out!
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on August 15, 2006, 04:55:25 AM
new madvillian clip on the stonesthrow myspace webpage.  Its gonna be on the Peanut Butter Wolf Chrome Children CD.

Its dope.  Clip is only like 23 seconds though, and 1 line from DOOM.

http://www.myspace.com/stonesthrow


The CD sounds like its gonna be good.  You listen to the sampler?  Its like 21 mins.  You can get it here.

http://www.stonesthrow.com/chromechildren/
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on August 16, 2006, 09:31:57 AM
Hmm :doh: never heard of em -- I've gots to check this out if Mocha says so!

Anyone heard Nas JayZ AZ Raekwon GhostfaceKillah-New York track?
http://rapidshare.de/files/29576075/Nas_JayZ_AZ_Raekwon_GhostfaceKillah-New_York.mp3.html

not a bad hook, I like where Jay like goofs, laughs at his line "beans is on"
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on August 16, 2006, 09:40:57 AM
New Method Man and Outkast albums leaked this week. Idlewild is pretty good, I'm definitely feeling it more than their previous album. Meth's album is also way better than his previous album. It has a few really tight RZA beats and the RZA-produced "Konichiwa bitches" has quite possibly the greatest song title ever :lol:

Quote from: daigong
Anyone heard Nas JayZ AZ Raekwon GhostfaceKillah-New York track?
http://rapidshare.de/files/29576075/Nas_JayZ_AZ_Raekwon_GhostfaceKillah-New_York.mp3.html

not a bad hook, I like where Jay like goofs, laughs at his line "beans is on"
Must be a cut & paste job since the original version only has Rae, Ghost and AZ.

edit: I just listened to it:
- the beat is different and way iller than the OG version
- Ghost, Rae and AZ verses are the same
- Nas'  verse is from Get Down'
- Jay's verse is from All I Need

It's definitely one of the illest remixes I have ever heard and I would love to hear a full album with Jay, Nas, Ghost, Rae and AZ. They're still the illest New York cats in the game :yep:
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on August 16, 2006, 09:42:44 AM
Oh great!! I gotta check out meth's latest!! :D :D

Yeah, that "New York" just cuts off at the end :/
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on August 18, 2006, 08:56:18 PM
BEST MIX TAPE OF THE YEAR!! And I am intrigued by Clinton Sparks, copy his style for HiP Radio XD

Clinton Sparks Recruits 50 Cent And Samuel L. Jackson for New Mixtape
Friday - August 18, 2006 by Anthony Roberts

Clinton Sparks is set to release his latest mixtape "Smash Time Radio Vol.2" with a little help from 50 Cent and actor Samuel L. Jackson.

Sparks is dropping the latest set in his "Smash Time Radio" series in an effort to further introduce fans to his already successful Shade 45/ Sirius Satellite Radio show of the same name. Featuring new music from various artists, blends and remixes, the mixtape also features exclusive interviews with both 50 and Jackson, who, as SOHH previously reported, are currently shooting a new film together entitled Home Of The Brave.

During the interviews, the G-Unit leader touches on a series of topics including kissing Madonna, who's really the King of New York and the difference between him and Jay-Z, while Jackson gives his two cents on rappers who act and his new movie, Snakes On A Plane.

"I feel very fortunate that entertainers of such a high caliber as Samuel L. Jackson, 50 Cent, Kanye West and Ludacris acknowledge my creativity and the importance of SmashTime Radio & MixUnit.com," Sparks told SOHH exclusively of the support that he's received for his projects. "I'm in competition with myself at all times. I wake up every morning like how can I out do my last project. I just hope that people appreciate the work that I do and I'm happy that people want to hear it."

The new mixtape is part of Sparks' "Get Familiar Mixtape Extravaganza" campaign, which will include new projects and mixtapes for the NBA 2K7 video game and artists such as Ludacris, Fabolous, N.O.R.E, Consequence, Saigon, Dre (of Cool & Dre), actor Rick Gonzalez and director John Singleton.

article: http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/9616
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Tanier on August 19, 2006, 08:22:58 AM
I dug up a  bunch of old stuff check out this download thread i started http://forum.jphip.com/showthread.php?p=159234#post159234 check it out. :)
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on August 21, 2006, 04:32:50 PM
Quote from: lilday
I dug up a  bunch of old stuff check out this download thread i started http://forum.jphip.com/showthread.php?p=159234#post159234 check it out. :)


MochaNutz, you do not have permission to access this page.
hmm.  How can i get access to that?

Finally listened to The Roots - Game Theory.  Its dope.  The Donut of the Heart beat was one of my fave Jay Dee beats on Donuts.  

A lot of music got leaked =)  I'm feelin' the MethodMan album.  I'm trying to get into Idlewild... I was never a big Outkast fan.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on August 22, 2006, 01:25:51 AM
^ hmm...maybe some blind clicking when updating you to Dealer. Whoops. Sorry Mocha. :sweatdrop:

Hook me up with a link for Meth! 4:21 or whatever haha. Wu Tang has myspace now!

http://www.wutang-corp.com/news/article.php?id=716
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: RatBastich on August 24, 2006, 02:16:41 PM
My preference is old-school hip-hop, and some of the very early stuff in the '90's.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on August 24, 2006, 04:45:38 PM
anyone get the Inspectah Deck album?  Any good?

also, dunno if its old, but Wutang performs on Crank Yankers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9Z25zpsu_A

kinda funny seeing them as puppets, and Dave Chapelle is in it too
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: thatguy on August 25, 2006, 05:04:34 PM
first post in the rap thread, dedicated to...

DJ 2ND NATURE

dj 2nd nature works mix tapes and comps for primarily hiphop/rap, but his musical knowledge is surprisingly diverse. in 2004 when pioneer introduced the DVJ turntables (they're dvd-turntables that let you mix video along with audio), he was one of the first djs to get in on vj-ing (video-jockey). i uploaded his 2004 and 2005 mixtapes (though you should probably call them mix-vids) :D

you've gotta see this stuff to believe it. although these are his routines (ie: playlist laid out, transitions and timins practiced over and over again), it's still fuckin impressive to see him scratch audio and mix video at the same time. 2004 mixtape has picture-in-picture so you can see the output video as he mixes, 2005 mixtape is just the output video.

DJ 2nd Nature - 2004 Routine (http://filedump.jphip.com/thatguy/dj_2nd_nature-2004_routine.mp4) 63.7 MB MP4
DJ 2nd Nature - 2005 Routine (http://filedump.jphip.com/thatguy/dj_2nd_nature-2005_routine.mpg) 72.2 MB MPG
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: thatguy on August 26, 2006, 01:26:33 PM
are we posting hiphop and underground here, too? oh well, that's what i'm gonna do unless someone tells me otherwise XD

FOREIGN EXCHANGE
Connected

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7f/B0001ZMWWI.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg/200px-B0001ZMWWI.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)

hip-hop, downtempo, seriously lyrical. rapper phonte coleman, dutch producer nicolay. if you liked the mark farina compilation albums i uploaded, you'll enjoy this. if you want a sampler, take track 6, "nic's groove". here's the wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Exchange_%28group%29).

Download (http://www.nihilistgiraffe.net/jphip/Foreign%20Exchange/Connected/)  85.4 MB 192kbps MP3
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on August 30, 2006, 08:28:57 AM
Quote from: L-san
My preference is old-school hip-hop, and some of the very early stuff in the '90's.

Agreed...all I play is old West Coast gangsta rap, and shit like Public Enemy, Wu-Tang Clan. The odd DMX and Kanye ain't bad but you know they lifted stuff from the old school.

Quote from: thatguy
are we posting hiphop and underground here, too? oh well, that's what i'm gonna do unless someone tells me otherwise XD

as long as it's hip hop rap boogie down, it's all good baby 8)

HEY!! cool thatguy...we have a turntable-izm thread somewhere, perhaps ya wanna revive that? Or fuck. Should we just merge ROFL. Where's my Reggae Fans at? XD

But is that shit like...the old CD turntables? I am also wondering (since I might be upgrading to XP) how Mocha, and y'all do your remixes. I've been doing mine in Sound Recorder and it's WACK..I wanna do some fading.

Quote from: MochaNutz
anyone get the Inspectah Deck album?  Any good?

also, dunno if its old, but Wutang performs on Crank Yankers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9Z25zpsu_A

kinda funny seeing them as puppets, and Dave Chapelle is in it too

Didn't know about this! Fuckin hilarious!!! -- Deck is mad sharp. One of my fave Wu MCs. I wonder if it's leechable....XD

Listened to Meth's 4-21...much better than Tical 0, but man. his last 3 albums haven't lived up to Tical #1. The few tracks like "Is it Me" and other Wu-Tang members, were pretty deep. Yeah, he's here to remind us to respect The Wu but...what else? You can do better than this Ticallion Stallion.

CHECK OUT THESE MIX TAPES!!

Man, I been hearing about this ... here it is!! Unofficial JPH!P Endorser Samuel L. Fuckin Jackson. If you hate 50 Cent (like Masa :P) just deselect the files :P

Clinton Sparks, 50 Cent & Samuel L. Jackson - Smashtime Radio Vol. 2

(http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/4161/smashtimeradio2jm3.th.jpg) (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smashtimeradio2jm3.jpg)

1 - Samuel L. Jackson Intro
2 - SmashTime Radio Intro
3 - Beyonce & Yung Joc - Ring The Alarm (Clinton Sparks remix)
4 - Fabolous Freestyle
5 - 50 Cent & Hot Rod - Don't Turn Off The Lights
6 - Snoop Dogg feat. Pharrell & B-Real - Vato
7 - 50 Cent, Samuel L. Jackson & Clinton Sparks - Get Familiar (Interlude)
8 - Eminem & Akon - Smack That
9 - Lloyd Banks Freestyle (LIVE On SmashTime Radio with Clinton Sparks)
10 - Outkast Feat. Lil' Wayne & Snoop Dogg - Hollywood Divorce
11 - Pharrell & Lil' Wayne - Swagger International (Clinton Sparks remix)
12 - 50 Cent - Ask R. Kelly (LIVE On SmashTime Radio with Clinton Sparks)
13 - Too Short Feat. Snoop Dogg & Will.I.Am - Keep Bouncin
14 - Omarion & Kanye West - Number 1 Entourage (Clinton Sparks Blend)
15 - Beanie Siegel & Ryan Toby - Just My Thing [produced by Clinton Sparks]
16 - 50 Cent - We Were Cool (LIVE On SmashTime Radio with Clinton Sparks)
17 - E-40 Feat. Juelz Santana & Snoop Dogg - U & Dat (remix)
18 - Obie Trice Feat. Nate Dogg - All Of My Life
19 - Akon Feat. Snoop Dogg & Plies - I Wanna F*ck You
20 - Samuel L. Jackson - Snakes In The Club (LIVE On SmashTime Radio with Clinton Sparks)
21 - Clipse - Chinese New Year
22 - Cam'ron - Weekend Girl
23 - 50 Cent - Who's The King Of NY (LIVE On SmashTime Radio with Clinton Sparks)
24 - Snoop Dogg & E-40 - Candy
25 - Diddy & Aasim - And You Say NYC
26 - Yung Joc - Bout It
27 - 50 Cent - Artist Advice From 50 (LIVE On SmashTime Radio with Clinton Sparks)
28 - Paris Hilton Feat. Fat Joe & Jadakiss - Fighting Over Me
29 - Brotha & Rick Ross - I Want You Back
30 - 50 Cent - LL Cool J Down With G-Unit Outro (LIVE On SmashTime Radio with Clinton Sparks)
31 - SmashTime Radio Unsigned Artist: Remo The Rapstar - Just Say No


http://www.mixtapetorrent.com/clinton-sparks-smashtime-radio2#attachments

...pretty dope!! I'm a big Sam Jackson fan so I got this for the interviews and intros :lol:

J-Love - The Return Of The Swarm Pt. 4

(http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3272/returnoftheswam4ca3.jpg)

01. Wu-Tang Clan - 9mm (J-Love Remix) 04:15
02. Ghostface Killah - Return Of The Ironman 02:42 (Prod J-Love)
03. Ghostface Killah - The Champ (Original) 02:14
04. Ghostface Killah - Chrunchtime 02:58 (Feat A.G. And Wigz)
05. Ghostface Killah - The Roosevelt’s 01:22 (Feat Trife)
06. Ghostface Killah - Angels (Feat Mf Doom) 02:46
07. Ghostface Killah - Charlie Brown 02:34
08. Raekwon - Heavywheight (Prod J-Love) 02:54
09. Raekwon - State Of Grace 02:08
10. Raekwon - Kids That Rich 02:02
11. Raekwon - The Pjs 03:37 (Feat Masta Killah & Pete Rock)
12. Raekwon - 1000 2 Millions 00:56
13. Raekwon - Who Would Have Thought 00:57
14. Inspektah Deck - C.R.E.E.P.S. 02:33
15. Inspektah Deck - What They Want 02:24
16. Inspektah Deck - Sound Of The Slums 01:45 (Feat Masta Killa)
17. Inspektah Deck - Lil Story 02:37
18. Masta Killa - Iron God Chamber 03:28 (Feat Rza, Method Man & U-God)
19. Masta Killa - Street Corner 03:29 (Feat Inspektah Deck & Gza)
20. Masta Killa - What It Is 02:52 (Feat Ghostface & Raekwon)
21. Method Man - Presidential Mcs 03:33 (Feat Rza & Raekwon)
22. Method Man - Is It Me 01:09
23. Ol Dirty Bastard - Wheres Your Money 03:33 (Feat Busta Rhymes)
24. Ol Dirty Bastard - Dirty & Grimey 02:56 (Feat Noreaga)
25. Ol Dirty Bastard - Dont Hurt Me 02:22
26. Gza - Destruction Of A Guard 03:25 (Feat Raekwon)
27. Gza - Advance Pawns (Feat Rza & Raekwon) 03:14
28. Rza - Out Lines 01:16


http://www.mixtapetorrent.com/j-love-the-return-of-the-swarm-4#attachments

...this was so-so. J-Love XXXclusives suck :lol:
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on August 30, 2006, 09:20:56 PM
Quote from: daigong

But is that shit like...the old CD turntables? I am also wondering (since I might be upgrading to XP) how Mocha, and y'all do your remixes. I've been doing mine in Sound Recorder and it's WACK..I wanna do some fading.


To remix, I use a program called Adobe Audition (which used to be Cool Edit I think).  I'll make a beat (i use reason), lay it on Audition, lay the acapella vocals on top, and adjust the pitch/speed/volume/fades accordingly.  

Im sure i have it around somewhere.

Or, you can do actual mixing with Virtual Turntables/Atomix.  You can pretty much mix mp3s together on the fly, just like regular Turntables.  Has the speed, crossfader, 2 tables, volume, and everything else.  Has a bunch of plug-ins too, so you can scratch/phazer, backwards spin, etc.  You can do manual scratching with a webcam (you move your hand over a line), but the last time I used it it wasn't working well. Plus, I felt stupid rubbing air.

Its pretty cool.

Its kinda difficult at first, cuz you need to use the keyboard shortcuts and the mouse to do cool things.  Sound quality is alright...  I like to mess around on them once in a while, to live the days I wished i was a DJ =P  Can't afford the real hardware.

I figured out a way to connect it to my soundcard, so I can play a live set on the Winamp thing for people to hear.  But, yeah, I'm wack the digital wheels of steel =P  If you guys had the time, I think it would be pretty cool for the show.  I heard people use the V Turntables in clubs.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: thatguy on August 31, 2006, 08:25:45 AM
native instruments traktor 3 ftw

(http://www.native-instruments.com/typo3temp/pics/db12a1fd8a.jpg)
more info here (http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=traktor3_us)
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on August 31, 2006, 06:31:12 PM
Quote from: thatguy
native instruments traktor 3 ftw

(http://www.native-instruments.com/typo3temp/pics/db12a1fd8a.jpg)
more info here (http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=traktor3_us)


nice.  
The only thing i don't like about these dj programs is that it gets complicated to do so many things at once.  Maybe I wasnt just meant to be a DJ =P  I'll stick with making songs instead of mixing em.  

I really wanna get a MacBook and dabble on Logic Pro.

Oh, there's a Swollen Members song feat. Ghostface and Produced by Alchemist.  WTF?  How did they get them?  I don't like Swollen Members, and I choose to always dislike them.  i dunno why, I think its Madchild's Mullet.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on September 01, 2006, 08:47:52 AM
WHOA :shock: those tools are like way over my head...I've heard the karaoke gals use Adobe Audition. Native Instruments, eh? I'll research some more, thanks for that infos. :thumbsup

Quote from: MochaNutz
yeah, I'm wack the digital wheels of steel =P  If you guys had the time, I think it would be pretty cool for the show.  I heard people use the V Turntables in clubs.


That'd be MAD DOPE if you can do a guest DJ spot on HiP HoP Hizzy these next weeks since Masa is gonna go on a Sex Boat cruise. XD


Quote from: MochaNutz
I don't like Swollen Members, and I choose to always dislike them.  i dunno why, I think its Madchild's Mullet.


I know. Their hooks are fuckin corny. They've played "Too Hott" that I can actually stomach it but they even got Everlast. Guess it's all about the dollar dollar bill y'all


HEADS UP!
Whoo Kid & Kardinal: New MixCD on the way............ Get Ready!
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=47259791&blogID=162247449&MyToken=783bdd37-68b3-4e85-8110-c345657740ab
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on September 02, 2006, 09:40:10 PM
Pharoahe Monch Channels Diddy's Pain, Talks New Album

In an exclusive interview with SOHH, veteran rhyme slinger Pharoahe Monch waxes poetic about penning rhymes for Diddy's new album, working with the late J.Dilla and releasing his first solo set in 7 years.

Fans have been wondering what's been up with the Queens-bred emcee since he released his critically acclaimed solo debut Internal Affairs on Rawkus in '99. Though he's only dropped a single here and there and made limited guest appearances on a few albums, the emcee born Troy Jamerson has not been sitting on his hands as of late. Touring on the regular, including the "Breed Love Odyssey" tour, which also featured Mos Def and Talib Kweli, Pharoahe has been patiently waiting for the right time to remind the game of who he is.

"Basically I've been trying to perfect what I got. I had to deal with a few bad business situations so I've really been waiting for the best opportunity and record label situation," Pharoah told SOHH. "I didn't want to put [an album] out and it be 80%, but I feel real strong about it now. I'm just happy to be getting it out to as many people as possible."

The "it" that he's referring to is his new album, Desire, which is set to be released to the masses via SRC Records. Choosing not to include any guest appearances, Monch is going for self on this his first disc since '99 with the lead single, "Push" about to be released to radio. "I think this album is incredible. I really poured my heart out on this one. It's just a very inspirational record."

Pharoahe has also been busy penning songs for Diddy's new album. He wrote three joints on the LP, saying that the Proactive pretty boy requested him and that the two had great chemistry while working on the project. "He basically told me that he wanted to get really introspective about his pops and that he wanted to talk about his inhibitions and the things that bother him." Monch also worked with will.i.am and Justin Timberlake on a track from the Sergio Mendes album, along with lacing the track "We Must Be In Love" from J.Dilla's last offering The Shining. "Dilla really changed me when it comes to hip hop. So to be a part of his [final] project is one of the biggest things in my career."

Ready to put New York hip-hop back in what he feels is its rightful place, Pharoahe ended the conversation by repping hard for the Rotten Apple. "I think New York breeds some very incredible emcees. It's just time to step up to the plate."

Desire is set to hit shelves on November 23 on SRC Records.

http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/9715

FUCK YES! My all time favorite rapper is finally releasing a new album. All new Monch songs are tight as fuck so I'm expections are sky high. Man, I'm so fucking hyped, I thought that he was never gonna drop another album. Desire will be the album of the year :yep:

Quote from: thatguy
FOREIGN EXCHANGE
Connected

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7f/B0001ZMWWI.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg/200px-B0001ZMWWI.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)

hip-hop, downtempo, seriously lyrical. rapper phonte coleman, dutch producer nicolay. if you liked the mark farina compilation albums i uploaded, you'll enjoy this. if you want a sampler, take track 6, "nic's groove". here's the wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Exchange_%28group%29).

Connected is pretty dope. By the way Nicolay just dropped a solo album, and it's definitely worth checking out.
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Post by: Masa on September 08, 2006, 11:56:24 AM
KOCH TO RELEASE TWO ALBUMS ON NOVEMBER 7TH

Koch will be releasing two big Wu-Affiliated albums on November 7th. First up is the long-awaited final LP by Ol' Dirty Bastard titled "A Son Unique". Along with that, the day will be blessed with "The RZA presents Afro Samurai: The Album", the soundtrack to the urban anime which will released next month.

Damn, that ODB album was supposed to come out like 2 years ago. I got the advance version and unfortunately it's nothing special :(

R.I.P. ODB!
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Post by: daigong on September 10, 2006, 12:17:44 AM
I too heard the advanced copy and there was so much left unfinished :( I hope RZA has some gems in the vault.

The whole 50 Cent vs Puff Daddy battle is just lame. Mase is a fuckin fool, let's see him dance outta this one.

Speaking of which, Kardinal Offishall has a new mix tape:

(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7420/1137873004mwl7.jpg)

check out sample tracks on his myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/kardinaloffishall
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Post by: maliciel on September 10, 2006, 12:10:19 PM
A little late (only 6 years!), but Deltron 3030 is the shit :lol:
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on September 11, 2006, 08:09:11 AM
When will U-God rise again?? Poor dude can't sell any discs XD

AllHipHop.com Interview With U-God

It's probably safe to say that the Wu-Tang Clan, sans actual instruments (a la The Roots), is the only group in Hip-Hop’s history to really come across as an actual band. Yeah, a band. Remember those? I know, you thought those were just for Rock & Rollers. Each member plays his respective role and serves as a piece of a collective unit. During the Wu’s rise to prominence in the mid ‘90s, it was obvious who the band’s lead artists were. The beautiful thing about the Wu, and clearly an indication of just how powerful their movement and music was, is that even the artists who fans ultimately pigeonholed into supporting roles eventually got their chance to make their mark individually.

In October of 1999, U-God dropped his heavily anticipated solo debut, Golden Arms Redemption, and the album went on to perform respectably. But with two more Wu albums, and a slew of solo releases from the other members cutting into his face time, it’d be practically five years until he resurfaced, this time independently with U-Godzilla Presents: The Hillside Scramblers. The project was U-God’s attempt to spread the word about some of the young gunners from his hometown Park Hill Projects, and while it was well received among fans still dwelling in the 36 chambers, it did little to bolster his appeal among mainstream Hip-Hop consumers and critics. The same could be said for his 2005 LP Mr. Excitement. All in all, U-God knows and admits that he hasn’t yet reached his full potential, and while he’s hardly one to disclose many details about his upcoming plans, he definitely knows where his mistakes were made. As Wu-Tang Week progresses, we spoke to Golden Arms about the past, the indie grind, and why his quest for redemption continues.

AllHipHop.com: In Hip-Hop it’s always about what’s new and what’s fresh. You just got off tour and it was crazy… What do you think it is that allows you 13 years after your introduction, and not being a new group, to still come in and really sell out shows and have fans all over the place?

U-God: Well, that’s from putting in a lot of work through the years. Our catalog is humongous. We got one of the biggest catalogs in the mothaf**kin’ industry besides Sugar Hill [Records]. You see a lot of dudes poppin’ off right now, new dudes and all, that but the amount of work we done put in is incredible, man, and those albums still sell and people still come out and still wanna see the old s**t. It’s like A Tribe Called Quest. A Tribe Called Quest ain’t been out in like six or seven years and right now their filling up 3500-seaters. Just because you don’t hear them on the radio don’t mean that they ain’t poppin’! People don’t realize the game, man; the game is deeper than that. If you put in your stones and your bricks for years, you’re gonna have a fan base. It’s like Metallica. Dudes are like the Rolling Stones. So, all we gotta do is drop a new album or drop some new songs and we can go right back out there and go on tour again.

AllHipHop.com: We have a lot of camps out now claiming their a movement. The Wu truly was and is a movement. Why do these other crew’s movements feel so fabricated in comparison?

U-God: Well, they feel like they wanna be us because we ain’t around. We ain’t doin’ nothing. We ain’t doin’ nothing that’s really stickin’ to dudes’ ribs like that right now. So, they feel like they can come out! Before, if you wanted to be like somebody, you was a biter. You was a wack n***a. But right now, that seems to be the style. Monkey see, monkey do. Dudes right now can’t even compare to being the Wu. First of all, if you wanna be the mothaf**kin’ Wu, your first album gotta go four to five million [units sold]. Second, you gotta drop three, four, five more consecutive platinum albums and get a Grammy on one of those mothaf**kin’ joints, like Meth did! So, in order for you to be Wu-Tang, that’s the kinda s**t you gotta put up, those type of numbers, those type of things you gotta do.

AllHipHop.com: You were locked up for most of 36 Chambers and came out and you were able to hop on the two songs…

U-God: Yeah, “Protect Ya Neck” and the “Mystery of Chess Boxing.”

AllHipHop.com: Looking back on the situation you had came out of, do you ever bug out off the fact that you ended up being a character in a video game and that you’d be in a comic book and all this other crazy stuff?

U-God: Right now, the amount of work we put in I would never think it would get to this level. None of us ever thought it would get to this level. We did what we did when we were 21. We were still like in our twenties when we got our platinum album and a lot of cats ain’t achieved that even in their old age. So, we was kinda before our time so when we did get out in the world, s**t was crazy. But hell no, I would never think it was gonna get to a level to the spot I’m on right now, because I only got two joints off and I had to go do my lil’ time out, but when I came home, I had to get back in shape.

AllHipHop.com: You mentioned a new Wu Album. After doing a couple Wu albums, what do you think the experience would be like going in and recording and what kind of new topics and sounds can you explore being that this will be like album number five for the Wu?

U-God: I ain’t gonna say nothing about none of that s**t because I don’t give away my mothaf**kin’ hat tricks and my lil’ tricks in the trade. But more or less, I can say that there’s a lot of things to talk about. What’s going on? A lot of books out there that dudes ain’t up on, lot of knowledge, Illuminati s**t is still in effect, Enron, scams that people doin’…A lot to talk about, a lot of s**t goin on: murder, death, kill, booze, drugs, tattoos, a lot of violence out there. So, I cant really say what the chemistry, what the formula gonna be because everybody done took from my formula already, like down to the bone. So, we can’t really come back with that old type of formula unless you come with some crazy…come hard and that’s basically how I like to come. I wanna come hard, hard, hardcore with some good hooks with some good beats. Take your time in there and put it together like how we used to do it! That’s all a process and lot of people don’t know what it takes for a nine-man group to make that process happen. ’Cause you got nine ill MCs who feel they should be number one! So, we got to humble ourselves again and get up in there and bake a nice cake.

AllHipHop.com: At this point, how motivated would you say you are to doing a Wu album?

U-God: I’m with it, as soon as n***as give me the red light like it’s real like that. I’m in there like I’m doin’ what I gotta do. Right now, I’m out here working on my s**t, so I ain’t waitin’ for nobody. I’m still doing me at the same time. I’m just trying get some better production goin’ on, get some nice beats some real chunky s**t. I’m out here searching for some diamonds.

AllHipHop.com: What type of sound is it that, when you say you looking for diamonds?

U-God: I can’t explain it to you, bro, it’s just gotta be heavy and big and that’s all I can tell you.

AllHipHop.com: Do you ever think it makes more sense for the Wu-Tang Clan to do an independent album as a group than actually go through a label?

U-God: This independent s**t is way more complicated than what you think. You gotta get in those programs and they gotta be serious business. Personally, I’m getting back into a major. I ain’t playin’, I’m goin back to a major. I’m getting back up on the diving board ’cause that’s where you makin’ money. Ain’t nothing wrong with being on a major. Oh, everybody’s always talkin’ about a major, B, that’s a myth. A major takes care of you, you sell records, you get taken cared of. Your s**t flopped, you don’t get taken care of, it’s business, man. It’s like I was playin’ for the majors and I got wounded or something and now I’m in the minors and s**t, playing independent games. Now, I gotta make my way back into the f**kin’ majors by hittin’ my own best independently. So, now when you get back to the majors you gotta come back with Reggie Jackson numbers, you gotta start hittin’ home runs. That’s what they respect. Make some s**t that make n***a’s hair stand up and there’s no way around that. Look at E-40, E-40 was an independent for awhile too, he couldn’t take it no more. He said I gotta get back to the basics. Gotta get back to the majors and look at a n***a.

Allhiphop: With the way Hip-Hop is right now, coming back as a collective, do you go ahead and come in swinging swords or do you take it in a different direction?

U-God: Right now, I ain’t telling nobody how I’m comin’, man. I just do what I do. Just be surprised, I got s**t up my sleeve. I’’m always doin’ some new s**t. I’m out here right now f**kin’ with dudes. I’m here in L.A., I’m not just doin’ Hip-Hop, I write R&B I do all types of s**t and it’s just who I’m around that could bring the situation now. I can go anywhere and make songs with all type of dudes. Like yesterday, I was with Motor Head and Foo-Fighters just chillin’, drinkin’ and s**t. I’m coming hard and I come out how I wanna come out right now. I’m content with my s**t. I don’t give a f**k if it only sell 3,000 or 4,000 mothaf**kin’ copies. I know 5,000 n***as copped the s**t, cool. I’m basically startin’ all over again, really. We start a solo career; everybody always identifies me with Wu-Tang. Yeah, I’m great with my crew because I already accomplished that, but as far as my solo career, I have not popped off solo. The only thing that’s good about it is I got a toenail in the door. [Laughs]

http://www.allhiphop.com/features/?ID=1520
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Post by: Masa on September 12, 2006, 07:47:57 PM
Guess Who's Bizack? Jay-Z Drops New Single In October
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Word is Jay-Z is prepping the release of a new single in October and will follow-up with his comeback album on November 14.

Sources at Def Jam Records told SOHH exclusively that Hov's new single, "Show Me What You Got," will be released some time in October. While rumors are that Jiggaman is scheduled to work with video director Hype Williams, the single's video will apparently be directed by F. Gary Gray ("Friday," "The Italian Job").

Rolling Stone Magazine recently reported that the LP would be dropping on November 14. Rumors are also spreading that Jigga's comeback CD will be entitled Presidential Gala. In recent months, producers like the Neptunes, Kanye West, Cool & Dre and the Runners have leaked information about working with Jigga.

The new album will mark Jay's first solo release since 2003's The Black Album. He has since made guest appearances on remixes with Kanye, Rick Ross and Young Jeezy as well as songs with Beyonce, Mary J Blige and Pharrell Williams among others.

http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/7957

What a surprise..... :rolleyes:

Nas Says 'Hip-Hop Is Dead' Could Be His Best Album
By Alexis Jeffries
Date: 9/11/2006 2:21 pm

Nas says his greatest work is ahead of him, but the veteran rapper said his fans will intimately determine if he latest album Hip-Hop Is Dead reigns over his classic albums like Illmatic (1994), It Was Written (1996), God's Son (2002), Stillmatic (2001) and others.

"It's probably the best record I ever did," Nas told AllHipHop.com. "I mean, when you work in the studio for a while, sometimes you think its great, but you don't know what it is until the people hear it. So I hope the people agree."

The Queensbridge, NY rapper signed a joint venture deal with Def Jam/Sony Music in January 2006, ending a long-running feud between he and Def Jam president Jay-Z.

The two rappers engaged in a lyrical feud which exploded with Jay-Z's 2001 diss track "The Takeover." Nas answered with the equally scathing reply, "Ether."

The two men settled their differences in Oct. of 2005, when Jay-Z brought Nas out for a performance during his "I Declare War" concert at Continental Airlines Arena in East Rutherford, NJ.

Under terms of the Def Jam/Sony Music union, Nas will produce four albums, with Hip-Hop is Dead being the first release on his own label, the Jones Experience.

The rapper hinted that fans may finally receive the long-awaited collaboration between the lyrical giants.

"I'm just with Def Jam," Nas said. "I haven't worked with anybody but myself. A little bit of work with Jay [Z], just for the fans out there and just for us."

Nas said Hip-Hop is Dead will be available to retail outlets on Nov. 7.

In related news, Jay-Z is expected to release an album of new material later in the year, but Def Jam representatives would not confirm or deny the information
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Post by: daigong on September 13, 2006, 12:56:41 AM
LMFAO...Enough of this retiring shit. Eminem's been dropping cameos. DMX has a new disc. Now will Paul Wall and his Grills retire already!! XD
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Post by: Tanier on September 13, 2006, 01:14:54 AM
well grillz wasn't a single it was a commercial. like Nelly's Air Force ones
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Post by: daigong on September 13, 2006, 08:59:47 AM
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RIP 2PAC 10 YEARS
1996 - 2006

10 years ago today, 2Pac was shot leaving a Mike Tyson fight. Today he is even more famous than when he was alive. His lyrics and bravado has been unmatched in hip hop history. Everyone is a wannabe 2Pac now from The Game to Ja Rule. Shit's never been the same since. :(

Pour out a little liqour for 2Pac.

This week on HiP HoP Hizzy we will have an extra long special dedicated to one of rap's favorite sons.

You like him? Hate him? Etc.

DISCUSS
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Post by: A1 on September 13, 2006, 12:14:38 PM
Love Tupac, everytime I see the keebler elf (aka Ja Rule) keep on thinking of a wannabe. The first album I ever heard by myself was "Me Against the World" I had stole it from my moms. Even though I was about I think 10 or 11 at the time, I really couldn't think of the impact he would have not only one me but the rest of the world. He was truly gifted not as a rapper but an actor also. Its rare to have somebody that could pull off both and do it so well.
 I still remember where I was when they said he died in the hospital. The only time I really cried for superstar like that. Also I remember me and my friends arguing if it was a stunt or not. How he was suppose to be coming back after 7 years.
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Post by: Masa on September 13, 2006, 07:12:07 PM
Talib Kweli coming w/ new album on his label.. norah jones, jean grae to be on it

Talib Kweli's been hitting the lab with conviction. The BK MC has been recording for his latest offering for quite awhile, but the rapper is finally ready to release his rhymes. His latest Ear Drum, is set to drop in the next few months, and will be released via his own label Blacksmith Records.

His newest offering will be a throwback to old Kweli, which may have some fans excited, he says.

"I wanted to get back into having an album where all the songs have a similar consistency," he told MTV. "With Quality and Beautiful Struggle, the songs dictated the beats.

This time, I sort of let the beats pick themselves. It was the music [that didn't connect last time]; it wasn't with what I said. Because the lyrics were pretty consistent with the rest of my other albums. It was just the music I chose to rap over. I have to think about a lot of things that I didn't think about on Beautiful Struggle. I grew up listening to Sting, so it made sense to sample that [on "Around My Way"]. But to my fans, I guess it didn't."

The most surprising guest on the album may just be Grammy winner/singer/songwriter Norah Jones. His label mates Strong Arm Steady and Jean Grae will also make guest spots on the album. Mos Def, Kanye West and Just Blaze may add additional tracks to the finalized version of the LP.
Time will tell.

Ear Drum is tentatively slated for a release in early November.
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Post by: Masa on September 14, 2006, 07:41:59 AM
Jay-Z Reveals Comeback Details in New Entertainment Weekly Cover Story
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"In the upcoming edition of Entertainment Weekly, Def Jam President Jay-Z will finally break his silence about his new album. In the cover story titled “Jay-Z Returns,” the Brooklyn rapper-turned-exec gives details about coming back to music after retiring three years ago. “It was the worst retirement, maybe, in history,” Jay tells EW. “I believed it for two years.” Jay’s new album Kingdom Come, rumored to be in stores this November, will feature production from Dr. Dre, Timbaland, Kanye West and Coldplay’s Chris Martin. Entertainment Weekly’s Fall Music Preview issue will hit stands on Friday, September 15."

http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=4618
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Post by: daigong on September 14, 2006, 09:07:39 AM
One of the things that amazed me about 2Pac was that he was classically trained. With all these ex-gangstas, he was trained in the arts. in Shakespeare. He was an acutal poet. Still to date, the best rapper turned actor. I remember hearing the news on the radio too, in my shack of an apartment in downtown Toronto just north of Chinatown. I was like oh he was shot. then the news shortly...OH SHIT HE'S DEAD. :(

Here's some interesting articles:

SNOOP On 2PAC


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"I learned that from my homeboy Tupac, he was a workaholic," Snoop told MTV News.

"He showed me and everybody around us how to focus in on working and being workaholics and doing what we gotta do without time being a factor, just work, without time being a factor. Just get it done, get it situated. If it's a nice album, if you like it to your ear, then put it out(QuickTime 1.3MB), you know what I'm saying. And that's what I learned, there's no such thing as a perfect album. There's such a thing as working and giving the people what they like, and right now I feel they need another album from me right now."

Tupac Talks About Acting Goals In One Of His Last Interviews

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"Gang Related", the last movie Tupac Shakur made during his lifetime, opens nationally on October 10, and to promote it, one of the last interviews Shakur did has been released.

MGM, the company releasing the film, is sending out what's called an Electronic Press Kit (or EPK) containing a promotional interview Shakur did for the film in August of 1996 just a few weeks before he was shot in Las Vegas on September 7.

MTV News obtained an advance copy of the EPK, and found Shakur talking about his potential as an actor and as a musician.

"I can't explain why I shine and no one else shines," Shakur said. "I think everybody shines in different. things, and a lot of things I can't do. I can't play basketball like every other black person in America. I can act. I know how to go to that true spot in myself, because I go there everyday. I can be me. I can be whoever because I'm true to me. I can go to neutral easily."

"A lot of people, black, white, Mexican, young, old, fat or skinny, have a problem being true to their self. They have a problem looking into the mirror and looking directly into their own soul. The reason I sell 6 million records, the reason I can go to jail and come out without a scratch, the reason I can walk around, the reason I am who I am today, is because I can look directly into my face and find my soul. It's right there. It's not sold. I didn't sell it. It's still within me. I still feel it. My heart is still connected to my body, so any character, I'm going to bring that intensity, that truth, that honesty to it, because I have to repay for that blessing."

Talking about what the future might hold, Shakur said, ³I could be the best actor anybody's ever seen, given the chance, the opportunity and the experience and the lessons from people. I could be the best, but right now, I don't even wish to be the best, I just want to be one of them."

As with Tupac's other posthumous film "Gridlocked," there will be a Death Row Records soundtrack for "Gang Related," for which he wrote several new songs.

"I did a song for it already called 'Fortune and Fame,'" Tupac explained in the interview. "The hook goes 'Something we all adore/The one thing worth dying for/Nothing for pain/Stuck in this game/Searching for fortune and fame/Something we all adore/The one thing we dying for/Nothing for pain/Stuck in this game/Searching for fortune and fame.' That's what I hear. It's so basic that we all want to be famous and noticed and watched, and money and riches, and we all want the most out of life from the roughest gangbanger to the most virtuous police officer."

No word yet from Death Row on whether that song will end up on the "Gang Related" soundtrack, but the film opens on October 10
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Post by: Masa on September 16, 2006, 10:15:05 AM
Jay-Z Returns

According to Jay-Z, people should tell the truth, whether they happen to be a multiplatinum-selling rap icon, a major-label president, or a drug dealer. He should know. Born Shawn Carter 36 years ago and raised in Brooklyn's grim Marcy Projects, Jay-Z is the only person on the face of the planet with all three occupations on his résumé. ''In life, anything, just be yourself,'' he says this August evening, largely ignoring the glass of cabernet beside him at the bar of Manhattan's Mandarin Oriental Hotel. ''You don't have to be like that in the record business. You can be conniving and nothing happens to you. But I can't put up a front. On the street, you had to be a straight-up guy, you had to stand by your word. Because something could happen to you...''

Yes, Jay-Z is a man of his word. Except, it seems, when he isn't. In 2002, the rapper declared that his next CD, The Black Album, would also be his last. His future lay not in the beats but in the boardroom. And that ambition became a reality when, in December 2004, he was announced as the new president and CEO of Def Jam Recordings. How to explain, then, the news that this fall Jay-Z will release a new CD, Kingdom Come? ''It was the worst retirement, maybe, in history,'' he admits. And then he launches into an impromptu a cappella preview of the title track, which was inspired by a 1996 comic in which Superman comes out of retirement to save the world. The lyrics that effortlessly roll off his tongue may help explain his return: ''Take off the blazer/Loosen up the tie/Step inside the booth/Superman is alive!''

So without further ado, let us welcome, and celebrate, the return of Jay-Z, a.k.a. Jigga, a.k.a. Hova. He is, arguably, the most powerful man in the music business — but without his music, well, he's just Clark Kent.

Truth is, most people took Jay-Z's retirement declaration with a shovelful of salt. For good reason: The rapper had, in fact, been threatening to stop making CDs since 1996, when the success of his debut album, Reasonable Doubt, ensured that he would never return to the hard-knock life of Marcy Projects. And yet following Reasonable Doubt, Jay-Z recorded a new studio album every year for the next seven years. Each went platinum or better, with 1998's Vol 2: Hard Knock Life alone selling 5 million copies. 2001's The Blueprint was an instant soul-drenched classic, while the eclectic, triple-platinum Black Album features some of Jay-Z's most memorable tracks, including the thunderous, Rick Rubin-overseen ''99 Problems.'' So even after it became clear that Jay-Z was taking his new label role very, very seriously, there may have been only one person who truly thought he was retired: Jay-Z himself. ''I believed it, yeah,'' Jay-Z insists. ''I believed it for two years.''

But at the start of this summer, his feelings changed.

''It's more in the vein of The Black Album than The Blueprint,'' he says. ''I've been experimenting with things, different types of music.'' In addition to Timbaland, Jay-Z has called on the production skills of Kanye West and Dr. Dre. He also hopes to reteam with Rick Rubin. ''Oh, and actually, Chris Martin produced a track on there,'' he adds casually. Yes, Coldplay's Chris Martin. ''We met at a charity dinner and just really kept in touch. He sent me these beautiful chords for this song called 'Beach Chair.' I had Dre put some drums on it. It's really, really incredible.''

Kingdom's lyrics, too, come from a wide variety of sources. A track called ''Most Kings'' is inspired by a Jean-Michel Basquiat painting (which he owns). ''Lost Ones'' finds the man who once rapped about his inability to shed tears dealing with the car-crash death of a beloved relative. ''One of the most crushing things that ever happened to me was losing my nephew,'' he says. ''As you mature you realize that being vulnerable isn't weak. You realize that a man is himself.''

He doesn't yet know who will guest-perform on the CD (''I take care of that at the end''). But one candidate is Eminem. The only rapper who can claim more success than Jay-Z over the past decade did produce a track, ''Moment of Clarity,'' on The Black Album. But Eminem has kept an almost invisible profile since a spell in rehab and his short-lived remarriage to Kim Mathers. ''I speak to him from time to time,'' says Jay-Z. ''He's holding up. You know, he went through a tough time. He's getting stronger.'' Another possible guest, of course, is his frequent collaborator Beyoncé, who has also been his girlfriend since…Well, it's hard to pinpoint when they did get together, given that both parties decline to even admit that they are a couple, despite the massive evidence to the contrary. To cite just one example, on the recent Beyoncé single ''Deja Vu,'' Jay-Z raps that ''We used to bag girls like Birkin bags/Now I bag B''; the accompanying clip features the rapper being suggestively pawed by the former Destiny's Child frontwoman.

Yet Jay-Z could not be more emphatic in his denial that the track represented any kind of official ''coming out'' for the couple. ''No. No. No. No,'' he says. '''Bag' is not having sex. To 'bag' someone is to court them. I don't mean having sex.'' But the rapper does concede that those who watch the clip and think ''Damn, it's good to be Jay,'' would not be wrong. ''At times, man,'' he laughs. ''At times! Ha!''

Which brings us back to that whole boardroom thing, to the reason for that so-called ''retirement.'' It is no exaggeration to say that Jay-Z's appointment as chief of Def Jam was historic. Never before had a top-flight artist of any sort been handed control of such a large record label. It is a responsibility that Jay-Z takes seriously. ''No one thinks I'm ever going to be in my office,'' he says. ''They think it's just this closed door, that no one's ever in. But I've shown that an artist will come into the office early, and be dedicated, and really take a job serious. Two years later I'm still going to the office.''

The results have been, not surprisingly, quite strong. Def Jam has enjoyed a satisfying string of hit records during his tenure, including platinum albums from Young Jeezy, Rihanna, and Kanye West, who was a complete unknown when Jay-Z hired him to help produce The Blueprint. Even non–rap artists seem impressed. ''He's one of those guys, when he walks in, he owns the room,'' says Fall Out Boy bassist Pete Wentz, whose band is signed to Island/Def Jam. ''Every time we're in New York we hang out with him. He came backstage before we were playing a show at Madison Square Garden. He was like, 'Big show.' We were like, 'Yeah.' He's like, 'Lot of people out there.' 'Yeah.' 'Don't f--- it up! Ha!' He's got this infectious laugh. It's like, no matter what he's just said, you want to laugh at it.''

Given that Jay-Z is a man who once spent his time weighing drugs, rather than the future of the music industry, it is impressive to hear him weigh in on the music biz. Whether discussing how the industry needs to find a ''new business model'' or lamenting the time he has to spend examining invoices (''I sign off on everything in the building''), Jay-Z is totally on point. He's even convincing when he insists that serving Bellinis in the Def Jam office on Friday afternoons is an exercise in team-building rather than partying. ''It started as somewhere everyone could get to know each other,'' he explains. ''Like in any lunchroom you had the nerds over there and the jocks over there. I couldn't work in that type of environment. So it was a social setting where everyone could come and download about what they were working on and yada-yada. And it worked!''

Sure, Jay-Z has had his share of corporate missteps. Early releases from his longtime protégé Memphis Bleek and Young Gunz sold poorly. This year's LL Cool J album, Todd Smith, was also a commercial disappointment. But with potential hits from Ludacris, Young Jeezy, Nas, Fabolous, and, of course, himself in the pipeline, Jay-Z's assessment of his performance at Def Jam sounds about right: He gives himself a B+. ''Jay has great ears and they serve him well,'' says producer Rick Rubin (who cofounded Def Jam in 1984 and sold the label four years later) in an e-mail. ''He has good taste. Not just 'hip-hop' good taste, but good taste in general.''

And as his current Hewlett-Packard laptop commercial suggests, Jay-Z's business reach extends far beyond Def Jam. In January 2004, he joined a particularly exclusive club when he became a part owner of the New Jersey Nets, who are possibly headed to Brooklyn in 2008. ''For a kid growing up in the Marcy Projects to be involved with [owning] a professional basketball team is way beyond anyone's dream,'' he says. ''You may think you can make it to [play in] the NBA, and that's a lofty dream. You never have the dream that you're gonna own the team. Every time I sit there and look around the table, I'm like, Wow, this is real. I'm on the board!''

Maybe so, but this fall Jay-Z won't be behind a desk. The rapper has scheduled a two-month international tour that will touch down throughout Europe, Africa, Asia, and Australia. And no, this won't just be a by-the-books promotional concert outing. In true global superstar style, Jay-Z will take time during the African leg to visit places hard-hit by water shortages. It's part of a UN-backed effort to publicize the plight of the more than a billion people around the world without access to safe drinking water. A documentary about his travels, Diary of Jay-Z: Water for Life, is due to be broadcast by MTV on Nov. 24.

All in all, it's a life that gets further and further from his ''hard-knock'' past. Though the rapper says he is a believer in karma, he doesn't regard his philanthropic endeavors as an attempt to make up for whatever harm he may have done during his time as a drug dealer. ''I don't look at it like that,'' he says. ''When I grew up, I didn't think what I was doing was wrong. When I started realizing it was wrong and that I was being harmful to the community, I was making my transition to get out of it. I just think [charity work] is the right thing to do. If you have more than enough, then you should spread the wealth a little bit.''

The job, the albums, the philanthropy, the superstar (non) girlfriend: Jay-Z's got it all going on. And this time around, he's not even calling Kingdom his last album. In fact, his new take on any potential retirement sounds downright rational. ''If I wake up one day and the best material has passed me by — and that's going to happen,'' he admits, ''then it's time to move on. I've said what I wanted to say.''

And for the very first time, Jay-Z has said something about retirement that we might — might — be tempted to believe.

http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1534551_4_0_,00.html
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Post by: A1 on September 16, 2006, 10:18:40 AM
Who didn't see this coming?
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Post by: daigong on September 17, 2006, 09:09:38 AM
Have u seen XXL magazine? Be warned, there's the pic of 2Pac sliced up. Been a  while since I seen him chopped like that. The best thing about listening to old 2Pac is him ripping Puffy, Big, Nas, Jay, Mobb Deep, etc. No one could battle like him. He's HILARIOUS.

All eyez on 2Pac
A decade ago today, hip-hop superstar Tupac Shakur was murdered in Vegas. But his legacy of art and violence still keeps us riveted.
By CARY DARLING

"A fast life ain't everything they told ya

Never get much older

Following the tracks of a soulja"

- 2Pac, Soulja's Story

Ten years ago today, rapper and actor Tupac Amaru Shakur passed away after being ambushed six days earlier on the crowded, neon-lit boulevards of Las Vegas. In town for the Mike Tyson-Bruce Seldon fight, he was gunned down while part of a 15-car caravan snaking its way down the strip. He had reached the ripe old age of 25.

Much of America heaved a sigh of relief. To them, the man with "thug life" emblazoned across his stomach, the man who in 1993 was charged with, but not convicted, shooting two off-duty Atlanta cops and the next year was put away for sexual assault, the man who seemed to make a career out of wallowing in the spilled blood of senseless violence, deserved what he got. Live by the gat, die by the gat, and all that.

A decade later, his murder remains unsolved, and this is one stone-cold case that's not likely to make it to prime time. Yet, for all his tough talk and sad end, Tupac was not just another inner-city kid with a troubled life and even more troubling death.

If his criminality was despicable, his ability to turn his life and struggles into brutal, bitter sweet poetry make Shakur a complex and fascinating figure. When he was at his best, there was an intelligence and sensitivity beneath the braggadocio that made him stand head, shoulder and tattoo above his rap contemporaries. At his worst, he was just another gangsta, allying himself with Death Row Records head Suge Knight, contributing to the wasteful East Coast/West Coast rap feud and making bank peddling the image of black-on-black violence. As an African-American man myself, this may have been the most disturbing element to me.

Yet even his most ardent admirers admit to straying onto this field of warring emotions. "Tupac Shakur finally died on Sept. 13, 1996, but death had been twitching in his ear for a long time," writes Danyel Smith in the bestselling Vibe magazine compilation of essays about the rapper, Tupac Shakur. "Shakur was rushed through boyhood only to enter a longish, violent adolescence that ended with bullets dancing through his body ..... Shakur was a self-proclaimed thug. A macho tantrum thrower embarrassed by the limp of his thoughtfulness. He loved to act but was ashamed of his talent. Back when I knew him, conversations with Tupac often ended with the other person convincing him of his own humanity."

It's this duality, and Shakur's often artful way of expressing it, that make him one of the most magnetic and tragic pop-culture personalities. Even though it's been a decade since his death, the number of books - with titles such as Jesus and the Hip-Hop Prophets: Spiritual Insights From Lauryn Hill and Tupac Shakur; Tough Love: Cultural Criticism & Familial Observations on the Life and Death of Tupac Shakur; and the recent Notorious C.O.P: The Inside Story of the Tupac, Biggie, and Jam Master Jay Investigations From the NYPD's First "Hip-Hop Cop" (see review) - continue to roll off the presses. His poetry has even found its way between hard covers in The Rose That Grew From Concrete.

Meanwhile, documentaries such as Tupac Resurrection and Biggie and Tupac have been made about him, and more albums have come out after his death than before. Colleges from the University of Washington to Harvard have offered courses on his lyrics and impact. Some even claim that, as in the legend of writer Niccolo Machiavelli, whom the rapper supposedly admired, Shakur faked his own death, partly because he wanted to transcend hip-hop's expectations.

One theory holds that he is alive and well in Cuba. Watch out, Fidel.

In the latest issue of the culture magazine Urb, an alternative universe is envisioned where Shakur has moved into politics and become the mayor of Oakland.

Elliot Wilson, editor of the music magazine XXL, was quoted on 2Pac2K.de, a comprehensive German site devoted to all things Tupac, as saying, "If Tupac had a Graceland, there would be people camping outside his house right now."

What makes Shakur so important is not that he had a lot of hits, though, with the likes of California Love and How Do U Want It, he certainly did. In 2002, Forbes listed him as the eighth-richest deceased celebrity, having raked in $7 million in 2001. But it was his ability to put on disc the conflicted feelings of many young, poor, alienated black men in America that gave him his strength.

The son of Black Panther parents Billy Garland and Afeni Shakur, he was born in 1971 as Lesane Parish Crooks, but was soon given the name with which he would become famous. Tupac Amaru was an Incan leader killed by the Spanish whose name meant "shining serpent." "Shakur" is Arabic for "thankful to God."

He grew up in New York City somewhat poor and politically radicalized. But he found joy in Harlem's 127th Street Ensemble acting troupe and later at the Baltimore School of Arts, where he discovered a whole new world of violin and van Gogh.

"That was the first time I saw there was white people who you could get along with," he told Vibe in 1994. "Before that, I just believed what everybody else said: They was devils. But I loved it ..... I was starting to feel like I really wanted to be an artist."

When his family moved to Marin City, Calif., outside San Francisco, things changed. "Leaving that school affected me so much," he continues in his Vibe interview. "Even now, I see that as the point where I got off track."

It was in California that he really started living the street life - selling dope and running with a rough crowd. But it's also where he eventually became a minor player with Digital Underground, the good-time Bay Area hip-hop crew who hit with Doowutchyalike and Kiss You Back, in the early '90s. Their success soon faded, but he used it as a launch pad for his solo career.

Unlike Digital Underground, Tupac - who recorded under the name 2Pac - had heavier things in mind. While his first two albums, 2Pacalypse Now (1991) and Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z. (1993), are rather muddled, tentative and indebted to the sound of New York outfit Public Enemy and L.A. rapper Ice Cube, it's clear where he wants to go. Tracks such as Soulja's Story, Keep Ya Head Up and the poignant Brenda's Got a Baby - a portrait of a 12-year-old single mom, and 2Pac's first hit - showed off a gift for heartfelt storytelling.

His life cascaded into a personal hell in the mid-'90s, when he was charged with the Atlanta shootings, convicted of sexual assault and shot five times in an attack at a New York City recording studio. The album that emerged from those experiences, 1995's bestselling Me Against the World, is arguably his best. Listening to it is like paging through the diary of a man gripped by his own contradictions. The songs If I Die 2Nite, So Many Tears, Dear Mama, Death Around the Corner and Lord Knows - in which he intones "I'm hopeless, they should've killed me as a baby, now they got me trapped in a storm, I'm goin' crazy, forgive me" - explode with doubts and fears not generally associated with someone labeled a gangsta rapper.

Throughout his music career, he was also screen acting, but unlike other rappers who ventured to Hollywood, Shakur wasn't just content to play a version of himself. Although he portrayed a violent high-school student in his first movie, the urban drama Juice (1991), he played opposite Tim Roth and Thandie Newton, as a guy who spends a very tough day trying to get into a drug rehab program, in the smartly written and underrated dark comedy Gridlock'd (1997).

If Shakur had lived, it would have been exciting to see how far he could have pushed himself. But as his final album, the two-disc All Eyez on Me (1996) proves, he never could or maybe never wanted to shake the extreme elements of street life. While some consider Eyez his strongest work - it certainly has some of his best beats and he's at the top of his game in terms of his vocal flow - it nevertheless bears the unmistakable imprint of executive producer Suge Knight. Like the chorus to 2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted proclaims, "ain't nothin' but a gangster party."

And that was where Tupac left us when he expired in that Vegas hospital a decade ago. No one knows exactly where he might have gone next. The barrage of posthumous albums, including 1996's The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory released under the name Makaveli, doesn't really offer a clue.

The saddest part of his death is the demise of what might have been. Tupac killed off his future because he couldn't shake his connection to the past. Gangster party, indeed.


HEY MOCHA! Get ur mix in to Raekwon:


© The Wu-Tang Corp.- 2006-09-11

Thats right, Raekwon is looking for new talent. If you think you have beats that Raekwon might be interested in, send your work on a CD to the address below. Please write your name and phone number directly on the CD, so if Raekwon is interested in your beats, he can contact you. Send your CD(s) to:


Ice Water Inc
P.O Box 671733
Marietta, GA 30006


Only Built For Cuban Linx II coming soon!

:lol: @ Masa for changing the thread title. Punk bitch! reminds me when the Oilers lost the cup FOOL!
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Post by: Tanier on September 17, 2006, 09:23:56 PM
another site with a crap load of videos. better snatch them before this site disapears.
http://shotgun.wordpress.com/
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Post by: Masa on September 20, 2006, 07:23:57 AM
Exclusive News @ Wu-Tang Corp

Raekwon’s management has told Wu-Tang Corp that the highly anticipated "Only Built 4 Cuban Linx II" is almost finished, if not already finished. According to Raekwon’s management the production credits are shared 50/50 between Dr. Dre and RZA but the final tracklisting has yet to prove if it will be the end result.

The whole Wu-Tang Clan will appear on the album, with more guests still to be announced.

Aside from that, we would like to confirm you Raekwon is very much involved with myspace (http://www.myspace.com/raekwon), and he’s now accepting beats, as his statement on his myspace said, for other projects.

Wu-Tang Corp will update you about Raekwon’s label situation in two weeks as his management asked us to put it on hold.

According to Ghost’s management he will NOT be on Jay-Z’s new album as rumors are saying, Jay-Z has, however, asked Ghost to drop a new album by the end of new year, 12th of December to be exact and it is currently entitled "More Fish".

Ghost will also be on European Tour between 23rd September and 11th of October.

RZA is still in NY filming his role in the new Ridley Scott movie "American Gangster". Alongside Russell Crowe, Denzel Washington and colleague rapper T.I. it is RZA’s biggest movie role yet. RZA will be recording with Method Man this very same week, working on upcoming projects.

http://www.wutang-corp.com/news/article.php?id=729

Damn, 50% of the album will be produced by Dre. That's way too much :(
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Post by: daigong on September 20, 2006, 08:20:04 AM
Dr. Dre producing Wu-Tang - this I gotta hear :hmm:
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Post by: MochaNutz on September 21, 2006, 05:15:30 AM
hehe, i was thinking about sending a cd of my beats to raekwon actually =)  

I really don't Dr.Dre's production is as exceptional as everyone praises.  Of course, its my personal pref.  But yeah, half the CubanLinx2 album?  I dunno about that
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Post by: TwYsTeD on September 21, 2006, 10:06:25 PM
Tech N9ne is one of my favorite Rappers   i have seen him live about 15 times i really enjoy his rhymes...
here is a link to his website
http://www.therealtechn9ne.com
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Post by: A1 on September 21, 2006, 10:31:56 PM
^I'm sorry but I just LOL when I saw your name. Yes Tech N9ne is sick and knows how to rock the stage like no other.
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Post by: TwYsTeD on September 21, 2006, 10:49:04 PM
yeah kinda funny although i wish i could say i was because of Twiztid i have had  that nickname since highschool....  but twiztid is awesome..  i got my tix to hallowicked on oct 13 in long beach woot...
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Post by: A1 on September 21, 2006, 10:51:02 PM
^ Twiztid's last two album hasn't been (in my opinion) at there best, but I did enjoy Jamie's solo work.
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Post by: TwYsTeD on September 21, 2006, 11:04:47 PM
yeah i bought both versions of Phatso  jamies solo is great... but you are right about the last 2 albums they are ok but not great..
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Post by: daigong on September 23, 2006, 09:11:53 PM
ODB Tracks here:
http://www.myspace.com/lostchamberz

I dunno. Raekwon told me to add. :lol: Anyone in the Garden State catch Method Man live??? Busta Rhymes opened for Mariah Carey Thursday, and DAMN that show was barely sold out :P tix hella expensive else I'd check him out. Heard he did some old school shit and kids were like "...."
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Post by: A1 on September 24, 2006, 04:39:32 PM
So I heard Jibb's "Chain Hang Low" I think I had two heart attacks, in only 35 seconds into the song. My question is WHY? This is why I tried to stay away from the radio and TV.
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Post by: Masa on September 26, 2006, 11:35:41 PM
I was gonna buy Lupe Fiasco's new album but apparently it's not out here yet :doh:

Some info about Tech N9ne's new album:
"Sometimes it takes a while for trendsetters, for artists ahead of their time and for genius to be appreciated by the masses. Tech N9ne is on the verge of bucking these bromides.

The Kansas City rap king has sold more than 500,000 albums independently, performed in front of more than half a million people in the last three years and established himself as one of underground rap’s most respected artists. With the impending release of his third national album, the monumental Everready (The Religion), Tech N9ne is poised to graduate from one of rap’s best-kept secrets to a major international superstar.

After experiencing a number of professional setbacks while promoting his critically acclaimed Anghellic and Absolute Power albums, Tech N9ne felt that Everready (The Religion) was an affirmation of his staying power. “I wanted to name it Everready because if you look at the old Eveready batteries, their logo included nine lives,” Tech explains. “That album title symbolizes nine lives, another life after death. I’ve had a lot of deaths in the music industry and there’s still life after all that. The Religion, the reason I subtitled it that is because I want this album to be something that’s being studied or praised. It’s like calling it a doctrine.”

Such a mandate is a natural conclusion after listening to Everready (The Religion). The album teams with blockbuster songs and stellar production. “Jellysickle,” for instance, features Bay Area rap legend E-40 and a thumping, addictive club-ready beat from superproducer Rick Rock (Jay-Z, Fabolous). Despite the track’s freshness, it made Tech N9ne think back to his early material.

“It reminded me of an old Tech N9ne, like ‘Mitch Bade,’” he reveals. “It’s like a 2006 ‘Mitch Bade,’ so I had to talk about the same thing: jealous people, stupid people. Kansas City is a place where hatred is at an all-time high. I thought it would capture that persona of the ghetto.”

As Tech N9ne has emerged as one of rap’s most innovative, creatively fearless artists, there has been a segment of his fans who feel that he’s abandoned his hardcore background. Tech addresses the situation on the aggressive yet elegantly produced “Come Gangsta.” “After all these years of people telling me that my music was for white people, that I needed to come with gangster stuff,” Tech says. “Music is supposed to inspire and evolve. Andre 3000 isn’t still doing ‘Player’s Ball.’ He evolved. That was always on my mind, that people were always telling me to come gangster. When it comes to it, my one gangster song can demolish their whole CD. I was inspired to write about the type of people that were telling me to come gangster.”

Tech N9ne delivers more high-energy heat on “Welcome To The Midwest” with Big Krizz Kaliko. He continues his harder edge on the macabre “My World,” with Brotha Lynch Hung, and the warped “In My Head.” On these two tunes he raps about mad and sad topics, things that pain him. He expresses a similar sentiment on “The Rain,” a touching ode to his wife and children. Much like Tech N9ne’s classic “This Ring,” “The Rain” features Tech N9ne giving his fans an intimate look into his life and his career, a look made all the more personal because the song features his two daughters rapping about how much they miss their father.

“Any man with a kid that’s on the road a lot can relate to that, whether you’re a musician, a doctor, a director,” Tech explains. “A lot of people are not to be there for their family in the flesh, and they’re hurting because they miss their loved ones.”

People of all backgrounds can also relate to friction in their relationships. Tech N9ne conceptualized the riveting “My Wife, My Bitch, My Girl” during a low point in his marriage. “At the time I wrote that song, me and my wife were doing really bad,” he reveals. “I wrote that song in my bitter stage, when I was saying whatever I wanted to say. ‘(My wife) don’t like me/(My bitch) gets hyphy/(My girl) might knife me twice just to spite me.’ That’s how I had the balls to write it. I didn’t care anymore. I just wanted to release it.”

Tech N9ne then talks about his breast fetish on the sinister “Flash” and about his crew’s road adventures on the heavy “Groupie.” But touring hasn’t been all fun and games for Tech N9ne. On the rock-influenced “Riot Maker,” he details some of the problems he’s had while trying to perform for his fans. “At the time, we were going through a lot of things,” Tech says. “I wasn’t able to go to Hawaii because the promoters said my music incites riots. At the same time, this girl was trying to sue me for $100,000 for cracking her own skull at my show and I wasn’t even in the building yet.”

An explosive recording artist, Tech N9ne has long earned praise from his fans because of his ability to deliver mind-blowing raps about his struggle to navigate through life’s pitfalls. His willingness to shed his ego and allow his followers to look at the high and low points of his experience has earned Tech N9ne a rabid, dedicated following.

“A lot of people when they come up to me, they say, ‘The reason why I like you Tech is that you say what you feel and you’re not afraid to say anything,’” Tech says. “That’s so tight because so many use discretion. I think I’ve inspired people to say what they feel because I’ve opened my life up for people to see.”

With such powerful music, it should come as no surprise that Tech N9ne’s reach continues expanding. Several of his songs are featured in the forthcoming Alpha Dog film, which stars Justin Timberlake and Sharon Stone. His music also appears on the latest edition of the fan favorite Madden NFL video game series, as well as the action video game 25 to Life. He also appears as a playable character on the latter.

But for now, it is all about indoctrinating his fans to Everready (The Religion). “This is Anghellic, Absolute Power combined,” Tech says. “If I could have titled this album One Big Clusterfuck, I would have because I think it has everything. It has the personal stuff Anghellic had or the party stuff that Absolute Power had. I think this is my best work.” Believe it."

http://www.therealtechn9ne.com/bio/

Quote from: Anghellic1
So I heard Jibb's "Chain Hang Low" I think I had two heart attacks, in only 35 seconds into the song. My question is WHY? This is why I tried to stay away from the radio and TV.


"It is one of the oldest tunes in the American repertory. In the 19th century it was a minstrel mainstay known, depending on the lyrics, as “Zip Coon” or “Turkey in the Straw.” More recently the same tune has been appropriated for a children’s song (“Do Your Ears Hang Low?”) and for the ice-cream-truck jingle that you may be hearing for a few more weeks. And now, thanks to the St. Louis rapper Jibbs, the old song provides the basis for a new hip-hop hit, “Chain Hang Low” (Geffen), which should still be playing on the radio long after the ice cream trucks have gone into hibernation. He raps — brays really — the verses and a chorus of children sings the refrain (“Do your chain hang low? Do it wobble to the flo’?/Do it shine in the light? Is it platinum? Is it gold?”). Perhaps without meaning to, Jibbs has updated one of the most popular melodies of the blackface era, reprising a song that has been stuck in American heads for a few centuries."
http://travel2.nytimes.com/2006/09/17/arts/music/17play.html

Mainstream rap just keeps getting more and more ridiculous :evil:

By the way, who the hell is Twiztid? :confused:
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Post by: A1 on September 27, 2006, 04:24:13 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/blackjuggalette/Gathering%202k5/TSdb3.jpg)
(Jamie is on the left and Paul is on the right)

The dazzling duo of Twiztid consisting of Jamie Madrox and Monoxide Child were not always known as Twiztid or as Madrox and Monoxide.

Born Jamie Spaniolo (also knows as Big J, and today known as Jamie Madrox), and Paul Methric (also knows as E.X.P and today known as Monoxide  Child) the decided to try the rap game in 1992. Hailing from Wayne, Michigan they brought long time friend Bryan in (The R.O.C.) to lay down the beats and he would also be a special guest on their debut album. The three had grown up together all in the South-East side and were best friends. Their music was inspired by rap, heavy metal, and of course horror movies. (http://www.hallsofillusions.com/artists/twiztid/)

http://www.twiztid.com
http://www.faygoluvers.net (for additional infomation and media, highly recommended)

I guess later I can post some pictures of Tech.

Thanks to HOI.com for the bio and of course the picture is mines. Took it at GOTJ '05
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Post by: MochaNutz on September 27, 2006, 07:05:20 PM
not to pre-judge, but they remind me of ICP.  I should listen to their music first though
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Post by: A1 on September 27, 2006, 10:20:10 PM
Quote from: MochaNutz
not to pre-judge, but they remind me of ICP.  I should listen to their music first though


A lot of people compare Twiztid to ICP. To me personally, I don't see them as the same. Unless you count they two have their faces painted.
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Post by: daigong on September 29, 2006, 08:32:22 AM
Look what I got!! Coming this week on HiP HoP Hizzy!! only on HiP RADIO XD
(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8681/00kardinaldq6.jpg)
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Post by: Masa on September 29, 2006, 10:44:54 AM
Raekwon signs to Aftermath Entertainment

"We told you about it a few months back, now Raekwon has confirmed it. Rae will be dropping the highly anticipated sequal to one of the greatest Hip Hop albums in the history of the game, Only Build for Cuban Linx II. Raekwon joins the likes of Eminem, Dr Dre, 50 Cent and Wu-Tang close friend Busta Rhymes on the record label. This is another big indication that Dr. Dre, founder of Aftermath Entertainment, will be very much involved in this project.

Raekwon is finishing up work on the much anticipated Only Built 4 Cuban Linx Part II. I know you all have been waiting, but Rae isnt taking this album lightly, and it will be released on Aftermath Records, not on the Wu Music Group as originally scheduled. it will be a instant classic!"

http://www.wutang-corp.com/news/article.php?id=731
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Post by: MochaNutz on September 30, 2006, 02:08:16 AM
haha, just saw this

Weird Al - White and Nerdy,parody of the Chamillionaire (sp?) track
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hzGYO447fU8
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Post by: RatBastich on October 04, 2006, 07:16:09 PM
Hip-Hop Honors on Oct. 17th, VH-1, 9/8pm C.

One of the Honorees is the Wu-Tang Clan.
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Post by: A1 on October 04, 2006, 09:07:20 PM
I will be watching that for my girl MC Lyte. Along with Wu-Tang Clan and MC Lyte being honor will be the following:

* Afrika Bambaataa
* Beastie Boys
* Eazy E
* Ice Cube
* Rakim
* Russell Simmons

Has anybody heard about André 3000 from Outkast having his very own cartoon on Cartoon Network. The cartoon will be called "Class of 3000". Its suppose to air live on November the 3rd. Only reason why I have to say something about is because I'm tired of seeing the CM for it. For more information check the website (http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/promotion_landing_page/classof3000/index.html) out.
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Post by: daigong on October 06, 2006, 09:47:43 AM
OH BABY!! I LIKE IT RAW!! Hope there's a torrent lol. I don't get VH1

Jigga speaks the truth...about Kobe.
[yt]QDc7YCTD_HY[/yt]

Weird Al speaks the truth too. I work with a ton of nerdy white guys. XD
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Post by: Masa on October 07, 2006, 08:43:38 AM
Jigga's new single is here! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
(http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8656/jayshoweminsertre1.jpg)
http://rapidshare.de/files/35741644/jayz_showme.mp3.html

The beat is fucking FIYAAAAAAAAA! Just Blaze is that dude :yep:

Jay flows his ass off but the lyrics are nothing special. MCing wise Show Me is better than any of his recent guest verses tho. The chorus is pretty annoying tho :doh:

I gotta admit that I'm pretty hyped about Jay's new album especially since Show Me What You Got is way better than the first singles of his last three albums. I can guarantee y'all that Show Me What Got will get some serious play on HHH :yep:

Da MC

Sir Hova of Brooklyn on “Show Me What You Got”:

It’s just a playful joint but what makes it different is it has the real live drums feel and it has the horns from Public Enemy’s “Show Em Whatcha Got.” Most people probably remember it from “Rump Shaker.” When it come on, you’ll be like, “‘Rump Shaker’ horns.” And the drums are moving so fast, that it’s not your typical, party… I don’t know if that record crosses over. Only because there’s so much action in the drums. The drums are everywhere. It’s like “Crazy In Love” times ten. But, how I slowed it way down was with the hook. I slowed it way down with the hook. It feels like a hip-hop record. Just did the track and it gave me a chance to really be flexible with the flow. It’s like “Hovi Baby” but with those horns it gives you a little bit of the soulfulness of “Encore.”

Da Producer

Mr. Smith on “Show Me What You Got”:

My man Kenny Dope has the thing where him and his man reissue joints… Remember the Octopus breaks. He gave me the 45 of “Shaft in Africa” and I started messing with it in the crib one day. I always liked the one part where it fell, in the beginning with the horns. So I made a little beat out of it, didn’t really think much of it. When I made this beat, [it was] that scene in Fade to Black… when they’re playing another track. The “Shaft in Africa” beat was the beat I originally did and I got so hype over it, but when I made another song with a New Birth break, I completely forgot about it.

One day, I started visualizing the record in my head and happened to be out in L.A., there are some kids I work with out there, talented musicians that call themselves 1500 or Nothing, and when I’m out there we live in the studio for like a week. I brought the beat up in the Pro Tools session, kept my drums underneath and had the band jam on it, ‘cause I want it to feel like a performance session. I wanted it to feel like you’re at a show. So that’s what we did. I directed them. I was just like, “This is the vision.” We did it three times and I took the best parts of each take. As the record goes on, I wanted it to escalate little by little. It never gets to a point where it feels that it turns into a performance rather than a record.

Anybody who’s been around here for the last year knows I’ve been trying to put those “Darkest Light” horns on a track. I gave a beat to Nas that had those horns. Meth got a beat where I chopped up “Darkest Light” and had the horns in the hook. And these records just didn’t happen, artists changed their minds and I wasn’t one hundred percent happy with the beat. But I was just dying to bring those horns back. That’s like the perfect set-off for a record. You hear that horn and you know that it’s about to be something. As I’m sitting in the room, Jay’s like writing to himself in his head and I’m just sitting there listening to the beat and it hits me like, “Wait a minute, it fits right there.” I said to him like “Yo, what do you think about putting the horns to it?” At first he didn’t really get it. So I actually had to grab it and import the horns into the session while the beats were playing, chopped ‘em up and placed ‘em.

As I’m doing that, Jay’s coming up with a hook, to himself. He keeps saying, “Show me what you got. Show me what you got.” It was one of those things where it was very much meant to be. So now I gotta get the Flav vocals in there. “Show em what cha got!” When things like that start to happen with a record, I feel like it’s meant to be.

The hook is straight-forward and slow. The verse is where he’s really getting in as far as the flow. To me with Jay, and this might come off the wrong way, but I’ve worked with him so many times I’m used to it now. People come in and they see that he’s not writing anything down, he makes up a song in ten minutes then goes in and does it. To me, it’s expected now. There was one situation where he felt like he was going too far with the flow. I was like, “No, you have to give us that. For the people that are really listening to the lyrics.” Steve Stoute couldn’t understand what he was saying and I was just like, “Trust me. You’re not going too far.” People are going to rewind it back three or four times just to catch it. Nobody does that anymore. Now everything is just straight forward—A,B,C, 1,2,3. Jay just comes natural. Every song we’ve done, there are certain parts where he gets ill with it. It’s just like playing ball, dribbling in and out.

I knew it would be one of the best songs on the album. And that was just because… Sometimes you just know. Off of the beat alone you know if it’s special.

http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=5227
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: A1 on October 07, 2006, 10:23:04 PM
I just uploaded one of Tech N9ne's album up in AH if anybody wants to grab that.
Title: Live Base Baby...
Post by: fsw on October 08, 2006, 12:19:08 AM
As this is the official rap thread, I wanted to show case an indie label / urban music promotion company I work with: Live Base Entertainment (http://www.live-base.co.uk (http://www.live-base.co.uk) & http://www.myspace.com/livebaseents (http://www.myspace.com/livebaseents)).

We specialise in UK/EUROPE tours for up-and-coming artists including being the Official Clinton Sparks agent in Europe. We've also promoted our own shows, for those into UK RnB the name Trevor Nelson (BBC Radio 1 & MTV The Lick) should mean something.

A wider audience is likely to know a certain Kanye West (go to our myspace page to see a pic of him performing) just before he stormed the Grammy's.

So if any of you are in Europe or UK and enjoy urban music then check out our site for the latest.

Peace.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on October 08, 2006, 02:31:33 AM
That's dope fsw, I love Clinton Sparks mixtapes. I'm based in Canada but I'll check the sites out. So great to have some actual labels in the forum!! :thumbsup
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on October 10, 2006, 04:48:55 PM
Nas Previews Hip-Hop Is Dead ... The N

Nas said he's less than two weeks from finishing his next LP, Hip-Hop Is Dead ... The N, and he already has a prediction.

"All respect to all rappers on Def Jam, I love the label," Nas said. "Without disrespect, I'm about to be the craziest sh-- on Def Jam. But that should go without saying."

Nas has a lot to boast about this time around. After his last project, the 2004 double LP Street's Disciple, had a lukewarm reception, the New York legend feels confident he has another classic on his hands.

MTV News had a chance to preview some tracks last week, and to dispel some rumors, Nas is not leaving his roots. His LP is very much street, and there aren't really any commercial tracks. Lyrically he still commands the vocal booth.

A bulk of his criticism the last few years has been his choice of beat selection. On Hip-Hop Is Dead, he worked with the best, including Dr. Dre, Just Blaze, Kanye West and others. You can hear the excitement in the producers' music — they've given him top-grade material.

"It's cool," Nas said Monday about working with Dre on "QB True G," which features a guest appearance from the Game. "I worked on Dre's Aftermath album when he left Death Row. The second Aftermath album was the Firm album. I think him and [industry mogul] Steve Stoute got into a lot of beef, so the record got hurt when it came out. But that album is still a platinum monster. I know Dre was saying that n---as was bothering him, saying the Firm flopped or he turned pop, but that Firm album was not a flop. That record was a monster. Back then, [Interscope Records co-chairman] Jimmy Iovine was ready to send me a jet, trying to get me off of Sony because he was seeing my potential and what I needed to do.

"Since then, I hadn't seen [Dre], but I bumped into him in a studio and he said he was ready to do my whole album right there on the spot," Nas continued. "I just knocked out the joint I did with him."

The beat has the feel of the dark party track Dre gave 50 Cent for the "Outta Control" remix, but it has a bit more bite. Nas raps on the beat that he and the Game came to "sprinkle a little bit of heaven for your ears." The Game starts his verse by rapping that over a decade ago, he was a kid in a record store and had to decide whether to buy Nas' Illmatic or Dre's The Chronic because he only had money for one purchase. He decided to steal both albums.

"Game is a megastar, man," said Nas, who appears on the Game's upcoming The Doctor's Advocate. "That n---a shut down a whole crew by himself. That's big."

Kanye West raps on and produced "Still Dreamin'." Nas starts one verse scolding hangers-on who are looking for handouts, and on his second verse, he tells a story of a female newscaster who gets caught up in a drug dealer's lifestyle.

" 'Ye is that n---a," Nas told. "His music is right. I wish I could've got more time in with him, actually. He comes through. N---as just be kicking it. Next thing you know, he plays me his sh-- he's working on, I play my sh--, then it comes from there. He'll play me some sh--, and I'll say, 'Let me get that.' "

The song "Blunt Ashes," where Nas talks about the missteps and betrayals of R&B legends like Prince, Alexander O'Neal and Bobby Womack, came about from the wordsmith just kicking it in the lab with another one of his friends, Philadelphia 76ers forward Chris Webber. Webber produced the track.

"We was in the studio in Kelis' session," Nas said about working with his wife. "We had a room next door, because I didn't want to mess her session up, but I wanted to listen to something. I went in the other room, we was chillin'. One of my mans told Chris to put on one of his [beat] CDs. We was in there freestylin'. I started freestylin' to one joint about sh-- we just be talking about, and I was like, 'This is my sh-- right here. This is my joint.' But Chris is my homie though. One of my closest homies."

Another person you wouldn't necessarily picture on a Nas record is Will.I.Am. The multitalented Black Eyed Peas frontman concocted the LP's title track. Where some may expect a real pop sound like on Busta Rhymes' "I Love My Chick," Will went left and very dirty. He actually brought back the same bassline from Iron Butterfly's "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida," which was also used for Street Disciple's "Thief's Theme."

"It felt like the 'Thief's Theme' to me," Nas said. "It was one of the low-key Nas joints that you know about it, but you don't want to look over there. You don't want to deal with that. This [song] reiterated the vibe of 'Thief's Theme' at another level. The title track is Will.I.Am taking pieces of sh-- I did before, pieces of old-school hip-hop, slappin' it all together and letting me do me. That's what it is."

Nas throws out a few punch lines on the album, including "If hip-hop is dead, we die together" and "Like my girl Foxy, a n---a went Def." His lyrics are also very tough on radio and DJs. Nas says on the disc that if the impossible happened, if hip-hop did die, DJs would be the first people he'd punish.

"Let's be real," he said of the song on which he insists his wedding to Kelis was his second marriage — he married hip-hop first. "DJs play a big responsibility of what hip-hop is doing. ... At the end of the day, it's up to us to control and to own hip-hop. DJs need to challenge us rappers. They got so much power, they need to challenge us. We don't challenge DJs by making crazy sh-- enough."

Nas also said that the phrase "hip-hop is dead" has a much more important meaning than just music.

"When I say 'hip-hop is dead,' basically America is dead," he clarified. "There is no political voice. Music is dead. B2K is not New Edition. Chris Brown is great, I love Chris Brown, we need that, but Bobby Brown sticks in my heart. Our way of thinking is dead, our commerce is dead. Everything in this society has been done. It's like a slingshot, where you throw the mutha----a back and it starts losing speed and is about to fall down. That's where we are as a country.

"I don't wanna lose nobody with this, but what I mean by 'hip-hop is dead' is we're at a vulnerable state," he continued. "If we don't change, we gonna disappear like Rome. Let's break it down to a smaller situation. Hip-hop is Rome for the 'hood. I think hip-hop could help rebuild America, once hip-hoppers own hip-hop. ... We are our own politicians, our own government, we have something to say. We're warriors. Soldiers."

Snoop Dogg appears on the Scott Storch-produced "Play on Playa." "Unforgettable," which uses a sample of the Nat King Cole song of the same name, has Nas looking back on his life ("Mom's cooking used to wake me up/ Deep/ 'Cause now my wife's cookin' puts me to sleep"). "War" finds the legend going political, lashing out against what he calls unfair media views and "the white man's paper." Damien "Jr. Gong" Marley co-stars on that reggae-flavored track.

Hip-Hop Is Dead comes out December 5. He hasn't chosen a first single yet, but Nas said he's leaning toward going with a real street record first, like the Game did with "It's Okay (One Blood)."

"Every n---a under the age of 28 that raps — except for maybe five of you — needs to shut the f--- up for eight months," he said about what some of his peers should do in preparation for this album. "Get your mind right and learn what the f--- to say. That's gonna be a wakeup call. With all respect due, because they're my comrades."

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1542740/20061009/nas.jhtml?headlines=true
Title: Rapper Slick Rick battles deportation
Post by: A1 on October 19, 2006, 11:13:18 PM
Rapper Ricky “Slick Rick” Walters is a married man, a father of two, a taxpayer. Across the last decade, he’s earned another distinction: the focus of a long-running legal fight with federal officials who want him deported for a crime committed 16 years ago.

Walters, the eye-patch wearing star behind the ‘80s rap classic “La-Di-Da-Di,” thought he was headed for victory in his immigration case after a federal judge’s 2003 ruling sprung him from a Florida detention facility after 17 months. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15322273/)

You fuckers leave Slick Rick alone!:evil:

Also fabolous got shot and arrested. (http://www.sixshot.com/articles/6565/)
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on October 20, 2006, 01:01:23 AM
Quote from: Anghellic1
Rapper Ricky “Slick Rick” Walters is a married man, a father of two, a taxpayer. Across the last decade, he’s earned another distinction: the focus of a long-running legal fight with federal officials who want him deported for a crime committed 16 years ago.

Walters, the eye-patch wearing star behind the ‘80s rap classic “La-Di-Da-Di,” thought he was headed for victory in his immigration case after a federal judge’s 2003 ruling sprung him from a Florida detention facility after 17 months. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15322273/)

You fuckers leave Slick Rick alone!:evil:

Also fabolous got shot and arrested. (http://www.sixshot.com/articles/6565/)


Wow, that Slick Rick thing is still going on eh?  

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The New Hi-Tek - Hi-Teknology 2: The Chip is pretty dope
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on October 22, 2006, 08:16:21 AM
Watched the VH1 HIP HOP HONORS (http://www.vh1.com/shows/events/hip_hop_honors/2006/) and not bad show...the only complaint is that if they wanna honor em, why use some half ass representation of the new school? Namely Puffy and Remy Ma, Da Brat, etc. FUCK!

Listing Eazy-E's legacy had me all choked up, Bone Thugs did good, Eazy E sure sounded like his pop but man- the end, canned "boyz n the hood" was lame.

Ice Cube was better, laid down the foundation of what a gangsta is. Beasite Boys - GREAT when they came on stage. I want that mix to "watcha want" ...George Clinton doing Afrika Bambaataa sucked, he looked like a big mango.

Tho wondering what happened to Ghost? The Wu-Tang tribute at the end was dope. ODB RIP!

A new Flav album SWEET. He may be a goofball on camera, but he's got some of the deepest tracks that PE has put out.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: michael08 on October 22, 2006, 12:59:49 PM
i love the song tokyo drift by teriyaki boys i guess that's the first japenese rap i heard hahaha...
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: panida on October 22, 2006, 07:42:18 PM
Last week Jay-Z have a concert in BKK
He play for the Donation
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on October 23, 2006, 02:34:00 AM
in Bangkok :shocked: WOW! How was it?? His new video is wack, cheap ass Miami Vice rip off. Encore was probably the last good record he made.

Here's his new mix tape with some XXXclusive shit:
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8364/supermanreturnscb8.jpg)
1 - Mick Boogie - Superman Returns Intro
2 - Jay-Z - Hov Is Back (produced by The Kickdrums)
3 - Jay-Z - Kingdom Come
4 - Jay-Z Speaks On Coming Out Of Retirement
5 - Jay-Z - Show Me What You Got [produced by Just Blaze]
6 - Jay-Z & Biggie - Whatchu Want
7 - Jay-Z - Dear Summer
8 - Jay-Z & Lupe Fiasco - Pressure
9 - Jay-Z Speaks On Being The President
10 - Jay-Z - Show You How To Hustle (Mick Boogie Mix)
11 - Jay-Z & Lupe Fiasco - Sittin’ Sidewayz
12 - Jay-Z & Biggie - The Commission (Mick Boogie Mix)
13 - Jay-Z, Jeezy & UGK - Get Throwed
14 - Jay-Z - 44 4’s
15 - Jay-Z - PSA (Just Blaze remix)
16 - Jay-Z Speaks On Hip-Hop
17 - Jay-Z & Kanye West - Diamonds remix
18 - Jay-Z & Young Jeezy - Go Crazy
19 - Jay-Z & Angelous - Brooklyn (Mick Boogie mix)
20 - Jay-Z Speaks On Success
21 - Jay-Z - Allure (remix)
22 - Jay-Z, Ray Cash & Scarface - Bumpin’ My Music (Mick Boogie mix)
23 - Jay-Z & Beyonce - Upgrade You
24 - Jay-Z & Beyonce - Dejà Vu (remix)
25 - Jay-Z, Mary J Blige & T.I. - Turn Your Lights Down Low
26 - Jay-Z & Pharrell - Young Girl
27 - Jay-Z feat. Nas & Chris Martin/Coldplay - Dead Presidents Live
28 - Jay-Z - Dec 4th (J.U.S.T.I.C.E League remix)

DOWNLOAD TORRENT
http://www.mixtapetorrent.com/jay-z-hov-is-back
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on October 24, 2006, 12:07:07 PM
MORE FISH In Stores December 19th!

"Ghostface is on a roll. The sequel to Fishscale - the most critically-acclaimed hip-hop album of the year - More Fish is Ghost doing what Ghost does best. On tracks like the blazing "Ghost Is Back" and the new single "Good," Tony Starks brings you that raw and uncut. Ghost's crew, Theodore Unit, is heavily featured on More Fish, and his teenage son - Sun God - shines."

A new Ghost album already :shocked:
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on October 25, 2006, 08:25:05 AM
Everyone's doing an anniversary/birthday thang on HiP Radio...so why not The BOSSMEN!!? Let's celebrate by honoring our FAVORITE group:

(http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8537/hhh1sthr8.jpg)

Includes interview clips, soundbites, and the usual rare shit that DEFINED HiP HoP Hizzy as your DEFINITIVE source for hip hop.

WANNA GET INVOLVED? Send in your requests and/or original remixes by posting in the HiP HoP Hizzy Radio thread:
http://forum.jphip.com/showthread.php?t=1638

 Can I get a SUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on October 26, 2006, 06:27:29 PM
And the gay rapper is.....Lil' Wayne (http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ewej6.jpg)  :puke:

LOL @ TQ's expression :lol:

Quote from: Masa;220253
MORE FISH In Stores December 19th!

"Ghostface is on a roll. The sequel to Fishscale - the most critically-acclaimed hip-hop album of the year - More Fish is Ghost doing what Ghost does best. On tracks like the blazing "Ghost Is Back" and the new single "Good," Tony Starks brings you that raw and uncut. Ghost's crew, Theodore Unit, is heavily featured on More Fish, and his teenage son - Sun God - shines."


Ghostface Killah - Good
http://www.sendspace.com/file/uqkmv9

The song would be pretty good (no pun intented) if Ghost was actually rapping. Seriously like 80% of the song is singing and it's not even Ghost who's singing :doh:
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: arun.yothin on October 27, 2006, 07:56:41 AM
I haven't listened to ICP since I was in middle school, but I just came across this article(http://www.paoracle.com/?archive=77) I thought was pretty interesting. It goes into the whole thing with the Dark Carnival and the meaning behind it. Don't know how many fans there are here(I only know one), and I know some people HATE them, but I think it's still worth a read.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on October 27, 2006, 08:11:05 AM
:shocked: Ghost has a teenage son! DYYAMN! Can't wait for new Wu! Great hook on Ghost's new one - I can't stop playing it!   love that line "...we don't love those bitches with the flat butts caked up.."

ICP was alright (funny at times, looked for the collabos) never knew they were DEEP!!
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: A1 on November 01, 2006, 08:54:07 AM
Rapper Ice-T once gained fame talking about killing cops. Now the controversy over his latest album has led him to compare himself to a peace-loving John Lennon.


Surrounded by leopard-print cushions in his penthouse apartment outside New York, the 48-year-old rapper defended a racy new album cover showing him lying naked in bed, his groin area covered by his wife's bare legs. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061031/people_nm/leisure_icet_dc_1)
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on November 02, 2006, 08:17:21 AM
What?? I didn't think much except "GROSS, he's naked" lol

Good album btw Ice!! Here's Flav's new one - might as well not waste the link! (props Masa)
(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/6517/flavorflavrx5.gif)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/6bfvoj

All my childhood favorites are making records again! Who's next?? Wrexx N Effect?

ETA:

WTF?? It was an R&B Album lol...kinda what I expected an ODB solo album to be, it's wack. Flav belting it out like his name was Marvin Gaye XD
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on November 03, 2006, 07:02:04 AM
Ok, it's official: Kanye West has the biggest ego in the rap game:

EMAs Shocker: Kanye Stage Invasion!

"The Best Hip Hop winner lashes out after missing out on Best Video award...

Kanye West unleashed an amazing outburst after failing to take home the gong for 'Best Video' for his 'Touch The Sky' promo at the EMAs.

Crashing the stage as winners Justice and Simian collected their silverwear for 'We Are Your Friends', the hip hop star spat, "F*ck dis! (My video) cost a million dollars, Pamela Anderson was in it, I was jumping across canyons and sh*t! If I don't win, the awards show loses credibility. Nothing against you (J&S), but hell man."

His verbal tirade left audience members gasping but it didn't end there.

After the show the offended star continued to vent his spleen in the press conference.

He told the world's media he was upset because he had "the best video."

"I haven't seen (the Justice and Simian video). Possibly it could have been quite good but no way better than 'Touch The Sky'.

"That is complete bullsh*t, I paid a million. Obviously it's not all about the money, but the response it got transcended everything, it really made great TV.

"It took a month to film; I stood on a mountain; I flew a heliocopter over Vegas. I did it to be the king of all videos and I wanted to walk home with that award."

He said of the Justice and Simian's win: "That was some spread the love bullshit, 'Oh everyone should have an award'. Please press people print 'Kanye says f*ck that!'

But proving he wasn't just a sore loser, the harangued hip hop star said he was happy to lose out to Justin Timberlake in the 'Best Male' category.

"Obviously Justin should have won, he's on fire and he's an inspiration to me," he said.

Let's hope he didn't hear JT's wisecrack about his, er, speech.

The slinky-hipped one quipped, "After the show, Kanye will be in the parking lot accepting awards he did not win. Seriously though, I've got sexy covered, it's good to see someone's doing crazy."

Ouch!"

http://www.mtv.co.uk/channel/mtvuk/news/02112006/emas_shocker_kanye_stage_invasion

LOL @ JT owning Kanye :lol:

JT's gangsta >>>>> Kanye's
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: A1 on November 03, 2006, 05:27:03 PM
Kanye needs to chill out, seriously. His second album wasn't even all that great. Here's the clip:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHIMB9bPoI8
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on November 04, 2006, 03:40:46 PM
personally, i liked Late Registration.  It was better than College Dropout, technically.  Although he's cocky, you can't deny he's got talent.  Its also kinda expected he acts like this, calling himself an asshole and all.  Its entertaining.

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It was ripped a few days ago, but I got the new Game album.  No Dre, but a whole slew of Producers.

The Hi-Tek : Hi-Teknology 2 The Chip came out too.  Thats another dope album.

I got the AZ The Format album too, but I haven't listened to it yet.  Im sorta in my R&B/Pop groove atm, so I haven't really been keeping up with HipHop.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: RionZ on November 05, 2006, 03:22:55 AM
Hmm...I sill like College Dropout better than Late Registration, but I don't think Late Registration is bad as a lot of people have said (not here, but in other places lol) I mean, shit, Kanye should get awards, he's been cheated out of a bunch like this right here, but when you're a celebrity and known to have an ego it just gets played up more.

I need to go cop the new GAME album and the new Hi-Tek album as well...
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on November 08, 2006, 07:55:11 AM
Kingdom Come tracklist:
1. The Prelude (B-Money)
2. Oh My God (Just Blaze)
3. Kingdom Come (Just Blaze)
4. Show Me What You Got (Just Blaze)
5. Lost One feat. Chrisette Michele (Dr. Dre)
6. Do U Wanna Ride feat. John Legend (Kanye West)
7. 30 Something (Dr. Dre)
8 I Made It (DJ Khalil)
9. Anything feat. Usher & Pharrell (Neptunes)
10. Hollywood feat. Beyonce Knowles (Syience)
11. Trouble (Dr. Dre)
12. Dig a Hole feat. Sterling Simms (Swizz Beats)
13. Minority Report feat. Ne-Yo (Dr. Dre)
14. Beach Chair feat. Chris Martin (Chris Martin)

Total Run Time: 59:22

Review:
Quote
Review from SUPPOSED A7r/Rep at Def Jam.

Ok here's my thoughts on the album. Please bare in mind that I've only heard the album through once and my opinion isn't final. Might be a grower and also the system we listened to it on was very bass heavy so I didn't catch all of the lyrics so here's just a first impression.

01. Prelude (Prod. Ghettobot) - Big song. Simple yet addictive beat. Jay gives his reasons for coming back. Some nice wordplay. Good start to album. 4/5

02. Oh My God (Prod. Just Blaze) - When this kicked off I was really into it. Sounded very Hovi Baby, but it lost my attention by the end of the song. Needs more listens to give proper opinion. Jay doesn't spit about anything in particular. 3/5

03. Kingdom Come (Prod. Just Blaze) - Y'all know the deal already. 3/5

04. Show Me What You Got (Prod. Just Blaze) - Same again. 3/5

05. Lost One (Feat. Chrissette Michelle) (Prod. Dr. Dre) - Again you've heard this. Received confirmation that this will be the second single. 1st verse is for Dame & Biggs, 2nd verse is for Beyonce and the 3rd verse is for his deceased nephew. Christte Michelle is some new chick signed to Def Jam and is in the mould of like a Jill Scott (according to the Def Jam rep). 4/5

06. Do You Wanna Ride (Feat. John Legend) (Prod. Kanye West) - This is meant to be a letter to an incarcerated friend though apart from some talking at the beginning (“I dunno how to write a letter, sh*t I don’t even write rhymes”) I couldn't hear it myself. Mainly it's just Jay bragging about his business ventures. Beat is cool but nothing mind-blowing. John Legend on the hook. 3/5

07. 30 Something (Prod. Dr.Dre) - Jay's trying to say that being 30 is the new 20. Not very convincing. Nice verse at the end where he makes comparisons between a young person’s view and an old person’s and one of the lines is "you respect the one that got shot, I respect the shooter." Drums are exactly the same as Lost One. 2/5

08. I Made It (Prod. Dr.Dre) - Dedicated to his mother. Not as heartfelt or emotional as a Dear Mama or Hey Mama. Beat sounds more like Just Blaze with the African drums and sample. Very un-Dre-ish. 2/5

09. Anything (Feat. Usher & Pharrell) (Prod. The Neptunes) - Horrible track. Weird beat. Strip club song. Jay has a fast flow. Not much else to say. 1/5

10. Hollywood (Feat. Beyonce) (Prod. Scyience) - Track detailing the ups and downs of fame. Cheesy hook (written by Ne-Yo) which sounds very much like it should be in a Broadway/ West End musical or something. Funky beat (horns) like the usual BJ collabos, but weak in my opinion. 2/5

11. Trouble (Prod. Dr.Dre) – East coast beat from Dre, doesn’t sound like him ‘till the piano kicks in. I can’t really remember what Jay was talking about on this. It didn’t really capture my attention (on this listen). 2/5

12. Dig A Hole (Feat. Sterling Simms) (Prod. Swizz Beatz) – This is like a combination of Dirt Off Your Shoulder (in terms of the beat) and Threat (in terms of lyrics), but just not as good. Hard beat from Swizz, Jay spitting his “I’ll dead your career” lyrics. Sterling Simms is a new singer signed to Def Jam. 3/5

13. Minority Report (Feat. Ne-Yo) (Prod. Dr. Dre) – Thank fu*k for this track. This is a song about Hurricane Katrina and after the previous 7 weak tracks that came before it I was looking for something to save the album. This could possibly be it. The track begins and ends with clips from news reports from Katrina. Dre provides a big, deep, dark, booming beat for Jay who spits about the media coverage of the victims of Katrina (hence the title Minority Report). He explains how he saw helicopters swooping to get the scoop, but they couldn’t scoop up the victims, and also how he felt helpless during the tragedy. The only issue I had with this track was that Jay only spits 1 verse (albeit, 1 long verse) before Ne-Yo takes over what I assumed was the hook but turns out to be the outro. 4/5

14. Beach Chair (Feat. Chris Martin) (Prod. Chris Martin) – I was expecting a sombre outro to the album, especially when I found out the track was featuring and produced by Chris Martin, but there was definitely an air of menace to this song (which I liked). At first I was a little thrown by the sound, but by the end of the song I was hooked. Dre supplied some loud arse banging drums for this, which just adds to the mood and Martins haunting vocals fit in perfectly (though I couldn’t tell if it was just one line looped). Jay spits about his business ventures (again!) and how life is like one big beach chair, good performance. 4/5

Overall: 3/5

So there you have it. Again let me reiterate I don’t wanna get carried away after just one listen. Cos some of the tracks may be better (or worse) on multiple listens so I’ve tried to stay pretty neutral with my comments. Other info I received was that Timbo came in towards the end of the project for a few days but nothing made the final cut. Primo was never involved due to schedule difficulties. 4 of the tracks (Prelude, Oh My God, I Made It and Anything) were completed two weeks ago whilst on tour in Australia and I did get the feeling that this was a rushed project.
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Post by: Masa on November 09, 2006, 07:32:53 PM
MTV News: Raekwon Partners With Dr. Dre For Cuban Linx Sequel

Raekwon isn't arrogant, he just has no doubt he'll win on his next LP, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, Part 2.

How can he be so sure? Not only does he have fellow Wu-Tang member RZA in his corner, but it's official: The Chef said he's inked a deal with Dr. Dre's Aftermath label, and the Doc will be producing a bulk of the beats on the album as well.

"I just felt it was going to be something to excite the fans in hip-hop," Rae said Tuesday evening. "Let them know I'm dealing with a whole list of thorough superproducers that's making sure this legacy of Cuban Linx carries on. We thought it was a brilliant idea to have RZA and Dr. collaborate, us being big Dre fans. His classics sheet is way long. As well as RZA's.

"We felt we wanted to put a twist on it and let everybody know the sh-- is that important," he continued. "We going through generation expansion, where the generations are differentiating. We wanted to give them a taste of something new as well as what they wanna see."

Rae said initially Dre was supposed to just produce a couple of tracks for the album, but everything just got better as they kept working. "Allah put us in the right place," he explained. "I'm working real hard, putting little pieces together. The album is coming out great. Everything is up to par. We still working on it, we never stop working till the last day."

The album is slated for release next year, although there's no official date for the LP as of yet. Rae also reported that besides Dre and RZA, the album will feature production from the late J Dilla, as well as Scram Jones (N.O.R.E., Mariah Carey) and DJ Scratch.

The last we heard from Raekwon, he was traveling to Africa with Paul Wall and Tego Calderón to examine the troubled diamond trade in war-torn Sierra Leone (see "Kanye, Paul Wall Urge Rappers To 'Bling Responsibly' In Documentary").

http://www.mtv.com/#/news/articles/1545239/11082006/raekwon.jhtml
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Post by: MochaNutz on November 09, 2006, 07:58:49 PM
Quote from: Masa;221690

Ghostface Killah - Good
http://www.sendspace.com/file/uqkmv9

The song would be pretty good (no pun intented) if Ghost was actually rapping. Seriously like 80% of the song is singing and it's not even Ghost who's singing :doh:


There's another version with Ghost having 2 verses and Trife on it.  


re: Kingdom Come, for some reason i'm not really Wanting to hear it so much as I did The Black Album.  Honestly, I was never a big Jay-Z fan =)
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Post by: A1 on November 09, 2006, 08:57:27 PM
I was never a  big Jay-Z fan either. However I really did enjoy him on MTV's Unplugged.
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Post by: daigong on November 10, 2006, 06:59:38 AM
Hey guys, don't forget to tune into HHH's Anniversary Show featuring 6 hours of Wu-Tang Clan. I've ripped my collection for this occasion!
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Anyone in the NYC area??

From wutangcorp.com On Wednesday november 15th, Ghostface, RZA, Method Man, GZA & Raekwon will be hosting a special Birthday celebration of Ol Dirty Bastard. Special performances by the Wu-Tang Clan and Brooklyn Zu. If you would like to go to this event at the Canal Room, NY, see the flyer below.

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Wu-Tang to appear at birthday listening party in ODB's honour

The Wu-Tang Clan will be remembering their fallen brother Ol’ Dirty Bastard, with an official birthday listening party in honour.

The party, being thrown by The Brooklyn Zu, will take place on November 15 in New York City. It will serve as the official listening party for ODB’s final studio album which will be released in early 2007.

The event will feature live performances by The Brooklyn Zu, Inspectah Deck, Shyheim, Killarmy, Chi-King, W.Gleamz, UNI and more.

The show will end with a tribute to ODB with all the performers joined by Method Man and, ODB‘s mom Cherry Jones.

Zu Films is in the final stages of filming for a documentary on the life of Russell Jones to be released in 2007 which will include footage from this event.

The Brooklyn Zu will begin touring in support of Ol’ Dirty Bastard’s final studio release in early 2007.

http://www.chocolatemagazine.co.uk/news.php?article=580
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Post by: Masa on November 14, 2006, 10:24:02 PM
R.I.P. ODB!
I can't believe it has already been two years since he passed away :cry:

Brand new interview with Raekwon:
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Only Built for Cuban Linx is a classic dish that The Chef, Raekwon, served up in 1995 and 11 years later people are still looking for seconds. Only Built for Cuban Linx II is set for release in early `07 and after his VH1 Hip-Hop Honors props, Raekwon feels like his career is, again, just beginning.

Considering himself one of the last Mohicans in hip-hip, Rae maintains his authenticity and places priority on time when making records; not making records for money, but for the sake of his art. Vintage bangers like “Rainy Dayz” and “Verbal Intercourse” lift the bar for OBFCL II and with The Chef’s buffet of styles, rap fans wait in anticipation for an album Raekwon says, “Will be cinematic.”

Format: It’s been 11-years since your first album, Only Built for Cuban Linx, how have you seen yourself grow?

Raekwon: Since my first album, I see myself as one of the illest artists you’ve ever met in your life. I keep growing with time, I take lyricism real important, it’s not like I’m trying to sit here and be the best lyricist, but I’m trying to be one of the best lyricists. I wouldn’t say too much has changed except my vocabulary and maneuvering of words and mastering all kinds of flows. You gotta remember, I’m the Chef, so I’m always going to come out with different dishes and them dishes are my technique, like how I may challenge a beat that I really like or I may rhyme with more style, or I may rhyme with more concept…I just get better with time.

Format: On your first album, you said, there was a cinematic theme. What is the theme or baseline of Only Built For Cuban Linx Two?

Raekwon: It’s going to be cinematic, it’s the lifestyle of a drug dealer, you know all the things that brothers can respect, you know…when you think about Only Built for Cuban Linx you think about the dudes that we really said was those kind of dudes, so I really just travel back in that direction just to let cats know that the streets definitely made me the person that I am. I have no problem going back to that type of format for this album, which is the same format we were dealing with 11-years-ago. So I just need to step it up more and create the visual again to make dudes be like, ‘Yeah that’s the kind of shit we lookin for.’ That’s cocaine rap.

Format: You have Dr. Dre, RZA and the late J. Dilla on production. What was your involvement with him, because I know Ghost did some work with him?

Raekwon: Well first and foremost I want to say RIP to that brother, I wish he was here so I can shake his hand and tell him thanks. Busta was the man that was basically the catalyst to that situation. You know I’ve been a fan of Dilla’s work watching him do various projects. Busta had a CD of his one day and was like, ‘How do you like that?’ And, I was like he sounds so much like he and RZA got a lot in common. I just heard him and I respected his talent and we talked on the phone one time, and then he had that tragic incident, but you know if feels good to deal with that cat, and really learn more about him. I never really knew he was as big as he was, so to me it was like dealing with a legend in his own art, you know.

Format: In the last 11-years, what has been the largest challenge, for you, in hip-hop?

Raekwon: I’ve seen more or less the creativity side, you know what I mean, people are following trends of other dudes and it’s–really hip-hop is becoming more cosmetic. No one is really trying to make an album that is really making an impression. People are really coming with the radio and commercial, and that kind of world. I know when I first started doing music I didn’t have any concern about how the media was going to take it, but it was more or less about the fans, but now it seems it’s more about the media too. You know, if the media ain’t satisfied with your work they don’t know how to distinguish your shit to be looked at on another level. Like, when I dropped various albums before, people felt like I was serving cocaine rap, regardless if it had a concept that had a positive direction. They didn’t really get to hear, because the people who were exploiting it they weren’t happy with my talent. Say for instance, you don’t like something that is not Cuban Linx, but to you it may sound good, but you still want Cuban Linx and if you feel you’re not getting that then you’re going to put in the review that I’m not on my job. A lot of motherfuckers don’t look at a dude’s talent and respect it for what it is. I think that’s what a lot of people need to start to understand, you say you want a person to grow but when they grow you don’t want them to grow, because you want what you want. It’s kind of like being selfish to the artist and at the same time being selfish to yourself for not letting the artist to have opportunity to show what he can do.

Format: Instead of being this redundant artist that comes out with the same thing all the time.

Raekwon: Yeah, it’s like where I’m from you wear the same pair of sneakers and [if] everybody got them on somebody is going to shoot to the next pair. It’s just out of respect, it’s like alright we know that’s the shoe but now it’s time to move on to the next shoe you know what I mean? It just seems like some people don’t want it to go down like that, they just want that Uptown and I ain’t going to lie, I love AF1s, but every now and then I see something that attracts me…if it looks hot it looks hot!

Format: On the track “Sneakers” you said you’re an Adidas freak, are Adidas still the shoe that you rock?

Raekwon: You know what son, it’s ill that you just said Adidas just now my dude, because I’m sittin right here at the table with a brand new pair of black shell toe Adidas right here in my face, that’s ill you said that.

Format: Other than Adidas, what other sneakers attract your eye?

Raekwon: I have an eye for all types of stuff. My sneakers go from Adidas all the way to Louis Voutton, Gucci sneakers, Prada. Whatever I feel looks good on me and like I said, I’m a big sneaker fan but for the most part I’ll always love the Uptowns, that’s always going to be one of my selections. At the same time there is other shit that a kid wants to look at too, because I’m tired of looking at the same shoe all the time.

Format: Have you ever put a pair or kicks on ice?

Raekwon: Nah, when I was younger I may have done that, but everybody–actually, I got a pair of sneakers right now that I didn’t rock yet and the kicks is made out of tennis ball fur so its like I’m just trying to make sure I rock the right outfit, they were a gift to me from this group called Alife. Just imagine a sneaker made out a tennis ball.

Format: Right now, how many sneakers do you own?

Raekwon: I can’t even count, I may go through 600 pair of Uptowns a year. You know how we love sneakers. Sneakers is part of your forte of the person you are. People probably don’t look at it like that, but when you come from the block you know your sneakers are important. When people see good sneakers on your feet they know you’re alright and you’re up to par.

Format: What are the first pair of sneakers that you copped and decided to keep clean?

Raekwon: The first pair I got that I really appreciated was when AF1s’ started changing the colors and they had the straps on them. Like the green and white pair when they first came out and I used to love them shoes, because I used to rock them with Coca-Cola shirts. You know the Coca-Cola had the green and white, blue and white, and red and white, and it was like the Uptown Airs were made for those types of shirts. Like those rugby shirts you know what I mean? I really tried to hold on to my green pair, because I had the olive green.

Format: You talked about emcees and how a lot of them are saying lines but they aren’t really saying anything?

Raekwon: Yeah, I mean it’s like when we go to the movies, now, I’m a the level where I really want to see a good movie, I just don’t want to see a movie, I want to see something where I can say, ‘Yo, I really enjoyed that movie.’ And, that’s what I really don’t feel in hip-hop no more. There are a lot of people out there doing their thing. All praises due to the man that can hold his, but as far as me, I want people to know that Rae is a visionary and he can go wherever we ask him to go, but we can also respect where he wants to go to. It’s like making a cake, going back to the cocaine rap, it’s really just a form of hunger that I really feel needed to bring back to the forefront of the table. I’m doing it for the people first and me next. Any other time it would be me first but this one is for ya’ll, because I know a lot of people across the world recognize me as a legend at what I do. I’m almost like a civil rights movement. When we started that movement and then we just left it alone.

Format: Has anyone come close to your style?

Raekwon: I don’t know, to me that’s like a double-edge sword. Like, you do hear dudes flip they flows and they styles, and you hear producers with the same kind of soundwaves that we once dealt with before. To me, you really can’t be looked at as leaders if you can’t be the artist that everyone doesn’t want you to be. I think it’s so important for artists to step they game up and really start making good albums, because now the game is fucked up with all the downloading, that really put a damper on the financial aspect of selling records. I think if you make something that people are really going to love they will go and get your shit.

Format: Nas’ new album is titled Hip-Hop is Dead, what’s your opinion on that?

Raekwon: It’s dead to a degree where some of that makes sense. You know, it makes sense to me, but it doesn’t have to make sense to the world. I understand where he’s coming from, but as far as me, hip-hop is what you make it. There are many kinds of hip-hop, there is graffiti hip-hop, there is hip-hop with skateboarders, you see what Lupe and them are doing, they’re opening up other avenues of hip-hop, but it’s about respecting all kinds of hip-hop. The radio gets caught up into the suit and tie hip-hop, and the money side of it instead of looking at who’s really rhyming, and who be like, ‘Yo I put on this cat’s CD and I don’t what he just said but it sounds sweet!’ It’s like you still want to have that passion for it and it’s like that passion is fading. So I guess that’s where that kid is coming from, as far as what he is saying. It’s like it’s just for kids now. They want it to be so much for kids. To me hip-hop is crazy right now.

Format: You’ve said that your career has just begun and there is a lot of work you have left to do. Can you expand on that?

Raekwon: Yo, there is a lot, but I want to be able to drop more product because you know I only have three albums solo in my whole career and I’ve been involved with maybe 25-30 albums. And, as far as the Chef, I didn’t really feel like I got a chance to show my talent to my ability. I always play tag team with somebody else and their project or Wu projects, but now I want to break the barriers and do different things. It ain’t like I like to be away from my fans doing for four or five years not doing albums, but it happens like that and now I’m ready to make a change. It’s like starting all over bringing it back to them Champion hoodies and take off the suede for a minute, and love the art of what I like to do. When I listen to the music I want to smile again.

Format: Recently, Wu-Tang was honored at the VH1 Hip-Hop Honors, but Ghostface was missing, what’s the word on that?

Raekwon: To be honest and I’m not going to sugarcoat nothing, I don’t know where Ghost was at. In a way, it kind of hurt me, but you know brothers is grown and at the end of the day people will look at the things the way they look at them. Me, I was pissed off and he knows it. I look at it like, wow it’s your birthday homie and you’re not here for your birthday, wow.

Format: At the end of the day, what do you want your art to say?

Raekwon: I just want my just due, you see, me, I’m not one of these young cats that come with a one hit wonder. I want it be like when Chef’s shit come out you can bet your ass in 20-years it will still stand next to the illest emcees that are out then. I feel very much underrated, but I feel respected and dominant. It’s really to let the fans know I didn’t give up on my skill, or I didn’t lose anything. I still tried to be conscious and represent the street side, which I always do. You have to teach the kids through the music. I really take this art seriously.

http://www.formatmag.com/features/raekwon/
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Post by: Masa on November 18, 2006, 07:23:19 AM
The most anticipated rap song ever is here and it doesn't disappoint :shocked:

Nas & Jay-Z - Black Republican
http://www.twitter.com/?d=I5LD9L23

That Godfather sample is siiiiiick :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Black Republican >>>>> whole Kingdom Come album :yep:
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Post by: StreakInTheSky on November 18, 2006, 07:55:22 AM
I came across this video and thought it was awesome. :D

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1427771169
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Post by: Masa on November 22, 2006, 07:40:15 AM
Ghostface Unveils 'More Fish' At NYC Event

Ghostface Killah previewed tracks from his forthcoming Def Jam album "More Fish" yesterday (Nov. 20) for media in New York. As previously reported, the set, due Dec. 12, boasts production by MF Doom, Pete Rock, Madlib and Hi-Tek, as well as guest appearances by Redman and Sheek Louch of the Lox.

The new offering is preceded by the upbeat single "Good." In contrast to Ghostface's previous effort, "Fishscale" -- which bowed at No. 4 on The Billboard 200 in April and has sold 295,000 copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan -- the posse-heavy disc boasts a grittier street sound on songs like "Miguel Sanchez" and "Guns N' Razors," though with much of the same underground production.

Ghostface produced the high-speed "Ghost Is Back" while MF Doom helmed "Cartoonz" and Madlib crafted "Block Rock." Another cut is the Hi-Tek-produced "Josephine," a soulful cut that also appears on "Hi-Teknology Vol. 2." Also present at the listening was Ghost's Staten Island-based rap group Theodore Unit, which is featured on the album cuts "Miguel Sanchez" and "God 2 God." The crew consists of Trife Da God, Cappadonna, Shawn Wiggs and Ghostface's 17-year-old son Sun God, who guests on the track "Street Opera."

In related news, Ghostface will jump aboard the Rock the Bells tour for a handful of dates in the next month, beginning Nov. 30 in Boston. As previously reported, the trek begins tonight in Washington, D.C., and will feature Raekwon and Redman but not Keith Murray, who has bailed out due to "unforeseen circumstances."

Tracklist:
"Ghost Is Back"
"Miguel Sanchez"
"Guns N' Razors"
"Outta Town Sh*t"
"Good"
"Street Opera"
"Block Rock"
"Miss Info Celebrity Drama Skit"
"Pokerface"
"Greedy B*tches"
"Josephine"
"Grew Up Hard"
"Blue Armor"
"You Know I'm No Good"
"Alex (Stolen Script)"
"Gotta Hold On"
"Back Like That (remix)"
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Post by: hide321 on November 22, 2006, 07:27:53 PM
My top 10 favorite hip-hop albums
01 ) Hieroglyphics - 3rd Eye Vision
02 ) Reflection Eternal - Train of Thought
03 ) Deltron 3030
04 ) GZA - Liquid Swords
05 ) Outkast - ATLiens
06 ) Souls of Mischief - '93 'til Infinity
07 ) Wu-Tang Clan - Wu-Tang Forever
08 ) Public Enemy - It takes a Nation of Millions to hold us down
09 ) Pharcyde - Labcabincalifornia
10 ) The Roots - Illadelph Halflife
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Post by: Masa on November 22, 2006, 07:33:29 PM
My list:
1. Wu-Tang Clan - Enter The Wu-Tang
2. Organized Konfusion - Stress: The Extinction Agenda
3. Nas - Illmatic
4. Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
5. Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
6. GZA - Liquid Swords
7. Wu-Tang Clan - Wu-Tang Forever
8. Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die
9. Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele
10. The Roots - Do You Want More?!!!??!
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Post by: MochaNutz on November 24, 2006, 03:07:58 AM
just wanted to say, listening to the DJ A-Trak Kanye West Soul Mixtape show, I have more respect for Kanye.   Especially for the Track Crack Music.  How the hell did he pick and use that little 2 second sample?  I woulda never thought of it.  Sure he still uses big samples, but at least makes it his own song.  He has a real good ear.

Anyways, thats it for now.  I can't make a top 10 all-time album list.  I don't have that much favorite albums.  Wu-Tang: Enter the 36 Chambers would be one of them though.
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Post by: RionZ on November 24, 2006, 05:43:03 AM
Quote from: Masa;237618
The most anticipated rap song ever is here and it doesn't disappoint :shocked:

Nas & Jay-Z - Black Republican
http://www.twitter.com/?d=I5LD9L23

That Godfather sample is siiiiiick :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Black Republican >>>>> whole Kingdom Come album :yep:


:yep: indeed...that was awesome...possibly the best collabo of 2006, imo.  and it beats the SHIT out of Kingdom Come, which was trash.  Thanx Masa :D
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Post by: MochaNutz on December 01, 2006, 05:35:52 AM
Ghostface - More Fish album is ripped!

DOOM has a beat on it, forgot the herb name, but its another old one. Same reaction I got when I heard the DOOM beat on Masta Killa's 2nd album.

The Ghost and Amy Winehouse track is on it.  Nice =)
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Post by: daigong on December 01, 2006, 10:04:47 AM
^ Thanks for da heads up!! DOOM baby :jerk:

Papoose is coming to town Friday (later today) for a show and I dunno, gonna try to check him out as he opens a hip hop clothes shop at the nearby mall. One of the few new rappers that ain't bad.
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Post by: Masa on December 01, 2006, 03:43:32 PM
Quote from: MochaNutz;247500
Ghostface - More Fish album is ripped!
Damn, first Jeezy (yeeeeeah) and now Ghost :shocked:

More Fish is pretty dope, it's not as good as Fishscale but it's definitely better than the first Theodore Unit album. Anyways Alex is such a dope song. Ghost should just make a storytelling album with Doom and Madlib behind the boards. Madlib's Block Rock beat is mad grimy and dope. I would have never guessed that it was produced by Madlib tho, it sounds different compared to his usual style. Miguel Sanchez is another great song. Trife rips that shit. I gotta write a longer review later but right now I'd give More Fish 4/5.

Jeezy's new joint is straight crack (that's riiiiiiight) :pimp:

This line from 3 A.M. describes perfectly what the album is all about:
"I adlib here, I adlib there / fuck it, adlibs everywhere (yeeeeeeeah)" - Jeezy
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Line of the year: "My name ain't dick so keep it outta your mouth" - Jeezy

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Rating 6/5, album of the year! (that's riiiiight)

:P

edit: holy shit, Mos Def's new album leaked too :shock:
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Post by: MochaNutz on December 01, 2006, 04:53:27 PM
Quote from: Masa;247874

edit: holy shit, Mos Def's new album leaked too :shock:

Was just about to post that!  Gotta cop it later today.  What else is left for this year?  Nas?  Talib's Ear Drum is coming out in January i think.

SunGod, Ghost's son, sounds older than his dad =P

If anyone cares, I found a link for Ron Artest's album.  Dunno if it works though, i'm at work

http://rapidshare.com/files/843086/Ron_Artest-My_World-2006.rar



edit: Tru3 Magic let me down =(

Also, I got the chance to really listen to More Fish.  Alex is dope.  Doom is sick.  Swift and Changable is gonna be so good.
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Post by: Thimas X on December 04, 2006, 08:45:24 AM
ahhh I can't wait for Nas' album
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Post by: Masa on December 06, 2006, 05:17:29 PM
Hip Hop Is Dead tracklist:
01. Money Over Bullshit (Prod. LES)
02. You Can't Kill Me (Prod. Salaam Remi)
03. Carry the Tradition (Prod. Scott Storch)
04. Where Are They Now (Prod. Nas & Salaam Remi)
05. Hip-Hop Is Dead (Prod. Will.I.Am)
06. Who Killed It? (Prod. Will.I.Am)
07. Black Republican (Feat. Jay-Z) (Prod. LES)
08. Not Going Back (Feat. Kelis) (Prod. StarGate)
09. Still Dreaming (Feat. Kanye West) (Prod. Kanye West)
10. Hold Down the Block (Prod. Mark Batson)
11. Blunt Ashes (Prod. Chris Webber)
12. Let There Be Light (Feat. Tre Williams) (Prod. Kanye West)
13. Play on Playa (Feat. Snoop Dogg) (Prod. Scott Storch)
14. Can't Forget About You (Feat. Chrisette Michele) (Prod. Will.I.Am)
15. Hustlers (Feat. The Game & Marsha Ambrosius) (Prod. Dr. Dre)
16. Hope (Acapella)
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on December 08, 2006, 02:47:29 AM
So far, I like hip Hop is dead.  Who Killed It?  has Nas doing this weird crackhead voice thing though. =\

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VA-Talib Kweli Presents - Blacksmith The Movement Bootleg 2006

(http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2423/00vatalibkwelipresentsbyu5.th.jpg) (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00vatalibkwelipresentsbyu5.jpg)

1. Blacksmith Intro - Talib Kweli (produced by J Dilla)
2. This Is It - Talib Kweli
3. On Site - Strong Arm Steady feat. Talib Kweli
4. Role Call - Jean Grae feat. McGuyver, Daddy Mills
5. Heat Freestyle - Jean Grae feat. Phil the Agony
6. Hater Anthem - Jean Grae
7. Hush - Talib Kweli feat. Jean Grae
8. Money Don't Make You Rich - Hi Tek feat. Strong Arm Steady
9. I Can't Believe - Phil The Agony feat. Xzibit, Krondon
10. Project Jazz - Hell Raza feat. Talib Kweli, MF Doom
11. New York Shit - Talib Kweli feat. Jean Grae
12. Funny Money - Talib Kweli (produced by Mad Lib)
13. Making Money - Mitchy Slick feat. Xzibit
14. Where It All Started - Hi Tek feat. Jadakiss, Papoose, Talib Kweli, Raekwon
15. Step Back - Sonia Sanchez
16. I Feel You - Talib Kweli
17. The Jam - Jean Grae
18. High Enough - Talib Kweli, Fonzworth Bentley, Krondon (produced by DJ Khalil)
19. Pardon Me - Jean Grae - (produced by 9th Wonder)
20. Can We Go Back - Hi Tek feat. Ayak, Talib Kweli
21. Young Man - Talib Kweli feat. John Legend (produced by Kanye West)
22. Sacred Artist - Talib Kweli feat. Planet Asia

mixtape.

Name: 10-hell_raza_feat._talib_kweli_mf_doom-project_jazz-exe.mp3
Size: 4MB

The download link is: http://www.sendspace.com/file/pg1e7g

Just cuz its DOOM =)  Sounds like a DOOM beat, well, uses his bass Drum.  He sounds off beat on this track...
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: cool_kickin_dude on December 08, 2006, 03:38:22 AM
I only have a few rap albums, sadly. 2 NWA albums and the first Wu-Tang album. I feel jipped. anybody wanna help a brother out, cause I'm confused on what's good to listen right now
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: aKaoNi on December 08, 2006, 04:24:53 AM
Ghost More Fish (http://www.thahighlife.com/muz/Ghostface-More_Fish.zip)

Jeezy Inspiration (http://www.thahighlife.com/muz/Young_Jeezy-The_Inspiration.zip)

New Common produced and ft Will I Am - A Dream (http://www.thahighlife.com/muz/Common%20ft%20Will%20I%20Am%20-%20A%20Dream.mp3) a feel good song, good stuff, dunno y it took someone so long to use that sample.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on December 09, 2006, 06:42:15 PM
(http://img19.imagevenue.com/loc505/th_87470_raeshitkv6_122_505lo.jpg) (http://img19.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=87470_raeshitkv6_122_505lo.jpg)
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

2006 Grammy Nominations
Quote
Best Rap Solo Performance
(For a solo Rap performance. Singles or Tracks only.)

* Touch It
Busta Rhymes
Track from: The Big Bang
[Aftermath/Interscope Records]

* We Run This
Missy Elliott
Track from: The Cookbook
[Goldmind/Atlantic]

* Kick, Push
Lupe Fiasco
Track from: Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor
[1st & 15th/Atlantic]

* Undeniable
Mos Def
[Geffen Records]

* What You Know
T.I.
Track from: King
[Grand Hustle/Atlantic]

Best Rap Performance By A Duo Or Group
(For duo, group or collaborative performances of Rap only. Singles or Tracks only.)

* Ridin
Chamillionaire Featuring Krayzie Bone
[Universal Records]

* Georgia
Ludacris & Field Mob (Featuring Jamie Foxx)
Track from: Ludacris Presents...Disturbing Tha Peace And From Field Mob — Light Poles And Pine Trees
[DTP/Geffen/Def Jam Recordings]

* Grillz
Nelly Featuring Paul Wall, Ali & Gipp
Track from: Sweatsuit
[Universal Records]

* Mighty "O"
Outkast
[La Face/Zomba Label Group]

* Don't Feel Right
The Roots
[Def Jam Recordings]

Best Rap/Sung Collaboration
(For a Rap/Sung collaborative performance by artists who do not normally perform together. Singles or Tracks only.)

* Smack That
Akon Featuring Eminem
[SRC/Universal Records]

* Deja Vu
Beyoncé Featuring Jay-Z
[Sony Urban Music/Columbia]

* Shake That
Eminem Featuring Nate Dogg
Track from: Curtain Call — The Hits
[Aftermath/Shady/Interscope Records]

* Unpredictable
Jamie Foxx Featuring Ludacris
Track from: Unpredictable
[J Records]

* My Love
Justin Timberlake Featuring T.I.
Track from: FutureSex/LoveSounds

Best Rap Song
(A Songwriter(s) Award. For Song Eligibility Guidelines see Category #3. (Artist names appear in parenthesis.) Singles or Tracks only.)

* It's Goin' Down
Chadron Moore & Jasiel Robinson, songwriters (Yung Joc)
Track from: New Joc City
[Bad Boy South; Publishers: Granny Man Publishing, Malik/Mekhi Music, Basement Funk, Regina's Son Music.]

* Kick, Push
Wasalu Muhammad Jaco, songwriter (Lupe Fiasco)
Track from: Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor
[1st & 15th/Atlantic; Publishers: Hey Lu Chill Music/Heavy as Heaven, 1st & 15th Publishing/Mr. Lopez Music.]

* Money Maker
Christopher Bridges & Pharrell Williams, songwriters (Ludacris Featuring Pharrell)
Track from: Release Therapy
[Disturbing The Peace/Def Jam Recordings; Publishers: EMI Blackwood Music, Waters of Nazareth Publishing.]

* Ridin
Anthony Henderson, J. Slainas, O. Salinas & Hakeem Seriki, songwriters
(Chamillionaire Featuring Krayzie Bone)
[Universal Records; Publishers: Chamilitary Camp Music, Play-N-Skilz Music, EMI Publishing.]

* What You Know
A. Davis & Clifford Harris, songwriters; (Donny Hathaway, Leroy Hutson & Curtis Mayfield, songwriters) (T.I.)
Track from: King
[Grand Hustle/Atlantic; Publishers: Club Crown Publishing, Toomp Stone Publishing, Careers-BMG Music, WB Music Corp., Warner-Tamerlane Publishing.]

Best Rap Album
(For albums containing 51% or more playing time of VOCAL tracks.)

* Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor
Lupe Fiasco
[1st & 15th/Atlantic]

* Release Therapy
Ludacris
[Disturbing Tha Peace]

* In My Mind
Pharrell
[Star Trak/Interscope Records]

* Game Theory
The Roots
Def Jam Recordings]

* King
T.I.
[Grand Hustle/Atlantic]

:thumbsup  for Lupe and The Roots getting nominated. I hope Lupe wins something.

Quote from: cool_kickin_dude;253058
I only have a few rap albums, sadly. 2 NWA albums and the first Wu-Tang album. I feel jipped. anybody wanna help a brother out, cause I'm confused on what's good to listen right now
What kinda rap do you like? If you like NWA and old Wu-Tang then you should check out old Ice Cube albums, Snoop Dogg's Doggystyle, Dr. Dre's Chronic, Method Man's Tical, GZA's Liquid Swords, Raekwon's Only Built 4 Cuban Linx etc.

Quote from: aKaoNi;253091
New Common produced and ft Will I Am - A Dream (http://www.thahighlife.com/muz/Common%20ft%20Will%20I%20Am%20-%20A%20Dream.mp3) a feel good song, good stuff, dunno y it took someone so long to use that sample.
Great song. I wonder if that song will be on Common's new album.
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Post by: aKaoNi on December 09, 2006, 07:09:05 PM
Wow, how did Mos get nominated and his album barely been out? I mean Mos is nice with it but damn besides myself playing it I havent heard undeniable or seen it on tv, might be cuz I barely listen to the radio or watch videos on tv anymore but just makes me question how the get nominated? Don't get me wrong his album is nice, I think it's a throwback to his first album since it doesnt have that live/rock sound from his band in it.

I still aint heard the Roots yet which is odd being I got most they albums, good to see Lupe get nominated his album gotta be the most slept on album of the year cuz it aint sell shiat but is crazy nice. The 'Daydream' track gotta be my favorite on the album.

Now listening to that Nas - Hip Hop is Dead (http://www.thahighlife.com/muz/NAS_Hip_Hop_Is_Dead.zip) though!
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on December 09, 2006, 08:06:39 PM
Quote from: aKaoNi;254447
Wow, how did Mos get nominated and his album barely been out? I mean Mos is nice with it but damn besides myself playing it I havent heard undeniable or seen it on tv, might be cuz I barely listen to the radio or watch videos on tv anymore but just makes me question how the get nominated? Don't get me wrong his album is nice, I think it's a throwback to his first album since it doesnt have that live/rock sound from his band in it.
Yeah, I was like WTF when I saw Mos' name among the nominations. I didn't even know he had a single out. Anyways Mos' new album is disappointing. It's slightly better than The New Danger but it ain't no Black On Both Sides. I used to be a huge Mos fan but to be honest I'm more interested in Kweli's solo shit nowadays. Now where the hell is the new Blackstar album? :x

Quote from: aKaoNi;254447
I still aint heard the Roots yet which is odd being I got most they albums, good to see Lupe get nominated his album gotta be the most slept on album of the year cuz it aint sell shiat but is crazy nice. The 'Daydream' track gotta be my favorite on the album.
Daaaaamn man, you gotta stop sleeping on Game Theory. It's probably my favorite album of year and the best Roots album since Illadelph Halflife.

I really wish Lupe would have blown up big time. His album sold around 200k which ain't bad but Food & Liquor is such a good album that it deserved to sell more. I'm feelin' pretty much all tracks, the only average song is that Neptunes song. It sounds so out of place. Anyways Daydreamin' is a fucking classic, definitely one of the best songs of year. The Letterman show performance was amazing :shocked:

Lupe Fiasco - Daydreaming Live on Letterman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui5jUHcynVM

Quote from: aKaoNi;254447
Now listening to that Nas - Hip Hop is Dead (http://www.thahighlife.com/muz/NAS_Hip_Hop_Is_Dead.zip) though!
HHID is better than I expected. Some beats could be a bit better (the first few beats are kinda boring) but Nas is spitting his ass off. The album is really consistent subject matter/production wise and the only song that shouldn't be on the album is "Play On Playa". Black Republican still sounds fucking amazing. My favorite songs besides Black Republican are Hip Hop Is Dead, Who Killed It (creative concept & Nas' 50s detective accent is hilarious), Still Dreamin', Let There Be Light and Can't Forget About You (best will.i.am beat ever?). Overall Hip Hop Is Dead doesn't single-handedly save hip hop but it's a step in the right direction. Like my homie hide said, mainstream really needs that album. Needless to say that Hip Hop Is Dead kills Jay's Kingdom Come :P

Oh yeah, we are gonna celebrate the release of Hip Hop Is Dead on HiP HoP Hizzy (http://forum.jphip.com/showthread.php?t=1638)  next week. We are gonna have an epic 3 hour long Nas special and cover the whole career of God's Son from Live At The BBQ to Hip Hop Is Dead. So y'all better tune in 8-)
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Post by: cool_kickin_dude on December 11, 2006, 10:52:46 PM
I know this isn't a request thread but anybody heard of Mr. Scarface-Balls and my Word or the remix to Biggie-Who Shot Ya?

I'm d/l the Jeezy cd right now(Yeeah, that's riiight)
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: aKaoNi on December 12, 2006, 07:57:06 PM
Quote from: Masa;254487
Can't Forget About You (best will.i.am beat ever?).

^^ Man I never really listened to it fully cept for the beginning, now I can't stop playing it, definitely one of top tracks of the year, classic shait! Will I Am is sick with it!

Quote from: cool_kickin_dude;256341
I know this isn't a request thread but anybody heard of Mr. Scarface-Balls and my Word or the remix to Biggie-Who Shot Ya?

Balls and My Word (http://www.thahighlife.com/muz/Scarface-BallsNMyWord.zip)

Who Shot Ya (http://www.thahighlife.com/muz/biggy%20smalls%20-%20who%20shot%20ya%20tupac%20diss.mp3)

^^ Gotcha!
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Post by: cool_kickin_dude on December 12, 2006, 08:36:59 PM
hey Akaoni, i have that biggie remix, I should have said the one they used with System of a Down. That was the remix, sorry bout that
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Post by: RionZ on December 16, 2006, 05:58:26 AM
YOUNG JEEZY DRINK~!
YOUNG JEEZY SMOKE~!
YOUNG JEEZY MIX THAT ARM AND HAMMER WITH HIS COKE~!

Rofl, my friend bought the new Young Jeezy album today...its alright...there's some genuinely funny stuff on it.  I like it, I should've bought it myself (didn't think it'd be that good...seriously)\

oh yea, I like that 3 A.M. the most so far...Timbaland reminds me of Nate Dogg on that song (in a good way)

EDIT:

OH SHIT, I need to get that Nas, I was gonna hold out to buy it, but now that I see it here...I might as well, haha.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on December 16, 2006, 09:43:56 AM
Listening to Jay-Z's new track ... he is really more suited with hooks and freestyling. Instead of overproduced, overhyped shit.

I'm digging Ghost's new mixtape, dope soundbites like Jay-Z talking bout him. Live tracks. Go get it off ur favorite BT place:
(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1481/2006bf3.gif)

Canada's hip-hop ambassador, Kardinal Offishall, will be at the Shaw Conference Centre on Feb. 15.

The Jamaican-Canadian MC and producer is easily one of the biggest names in Canadian rap to actually crack the almost xenophobic American hip-hop market.

To date, he's the only Canadian urban artist to have appeared on BET's Rap City show and he's worked with the cream of U.S. artists, like Pete Rock, Method Man and Busta Rhymes.

No details on tickets yet, but Ticketmaster should have more information soon

http://www.edmontonsun.com/Entertainment/Music/2006/12/14/2787819-sun.html

NEW Proof album, duh:

... from deceased rapper Deshaun "Proof" Holton is on the way, according to The Detroit News. Time A Tell, is an album Proof recorded in a 24-hours, after being challenged by Julius Meyers aka DJ Jewels Baby. "It shows how serious Proof was about recording," Myers told The Detroit News. The album will be released on Proof's Iron Fist Records, which also released the rapper's 2005 solo album, Searching for Jerry Garcia.
 (http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=6509)
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Post by: RionZ on December 17, 2006, 03:26:32 AM
goddamn...he recorded a whole album that quick? wtf, what motivation he had, shame he died. :(

EDIT

LOL, just came across this article:

http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ap-music-alirap&prov=ap&type=lgns

it claims that Muhammad Ali was the 'first heavyweight champion of rap'

I read it and it does make good points, Muhammad Ali was the greatest boxer and one of the originators in slang and rhymes lol
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Post by: cool_kickin_dude on December 17, 2006, 06:22:03 PM
Can't wait for the new Proof album to come out soon. It's sad to see him gone from D-12.

Anybody know where I can get some Lil Jon albums? my friend borrowed one of mine and he lost it.
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Post by: Masa on December 17, 2006, 07:45:05 PM
Quote from: cool_kickin_dude;261291
Anybody know where I can get some Lil Jon albums? my friend borrowed one of mine and he lost it.

Lil Jon & the East Side Boyz - Crunk Juice album
http://www.sendspace.com/file/s2able
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Post by: cool_kickin_dude on December 19, 2006, 08:41:40 PM
Thanks, now my friend took my kings of crunk cd. Anybody has it?
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: A1 on December 19, 2006, 11:45:32 PM
^I think I have it
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on December 20, 2006, 07:25:23 AM
not sure how old this is.

DJ OSK mixtape
Big L, Kool G Rap, Lord Finesse, Big Daddy Kane, Redman
remixed over RZA beats

(http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/9877/rzavoirdogsfrontcoversz9.th.jpg)

http://rapidshare.com/files/7104680/djosk_rzavoir_dogs.rar.html

01. Rzavoir Intro
02. Redman ft. Method Man - Tear it off (djosk blend)
03. Redman ft. Erick Sermon - Can't wait (djosk mix)
04. Redman ft. Erick Sermon - Street hop (djosk blend)
05. Redman ft. Inspektah Deck & Cypress Hill - The saga continues (djosk mix)
06. Redman ft. Erick Sermon - Whateva man (djosk blend)
07. Bulletfest (skit)
08. Kool G Rap ft. Buckshot - Ill street blues (djosk mix)
09. Kool G Rap ft. Nas & RZA - Fast life (djosk mix)
10. Kool G Rap ft. Raekwon - It's a shame (djosk mix)
11. Kool G Rap - Foul Cats (djosk blend)
11. Lil' doggie (skit)
12. Lord Finesse ft. Freddie Foxxx - Return of the funkyman (djosk mix)
13. Lord Finesse ft. OC & Krs-One - Brainstorm (djosk blend)
14. Lord Finesse - Soul plan (djosk blend)
15. Lord Finesse ft. Method Man - Bad mutha (djosk mix)
16. Lord Finesse ft. LOTUG - Funky technician (djosk mix)
17. It's a setup (skit)
18. Big L ft. Raekwon & Kid Capri - MVP (djosk mix)
19. Big L ft. A.G. & O.C. - Thick (djosk blend)
20. Big L ft. Kid Capri - Put it on (djosk blend)
21. Big L ft. Biggie, 2Pac, RZA & ODB - Deadly combination 2006 (djosk mix)
22. Run away (skit)
23. Big L ft. ODB - On the dog (djosk mix)
24. Beat the prick (skit)
25. Big Daddy Kane ft. Masta Ace & Nine - The man, the icon (djosk mix)
26. Big Daddy Kane ft. Big Pun - Any type of way (djosk mix)
27. Big Daddy Kane ft. GZA - How you get a record deal (djosk mix)
28. Big Daddy Kane ft. Big L - Raw 2006 (djosk mix)

---------

You guys watch Adultswim?
Christmas with DOOM
Christmas eve from 10pm to 6am

"Why spend Christmas eve waiting for some extra fat white dude to come busting through the ceiling, when you can spend Christmas eve with yours truly The Supervillain, DOOM"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2XqK_rc3ww
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tZfBKqFjwk
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: RionZ on December 20, 2006, 09:31:44 PM
Haha, niice name

RZAvoir dogs, the title and the artist line-up sound good :D

*d/ls*
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Post by: cool_kickin_dude on December 22, 2006, 03:46:07 AM
great stuff. one of my favorite movies with some great rap. listening to it right now. thanks Mocha!
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Post by: Masa on December 22, 2006, 05:56:29 AM
My all time favorite MC is back! :w00t:

(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4405/2rxdzskxs2.jpg)
01. Clinton Sparks Intro 02:13
02. Shut Em Down Freestyle 02:41
03. Pain Interlude 00:38
04. Pain 02:21
05. Lets Go 03:08
06. We Must Be In Love 03:22
07. Shes A Ho 02:53
08. The Note 02:00
09. Agent Orange 03:38
10. Push 02:50
11. Desire 03:03
12. Stray Bullet Freestyle 01:39
13. The Sniper S*** 00:20
14. Gun Draws 02:41
15. Glorious 01:13
16. Down By Law 02:45
17. Outro 00:41
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ts3utf

Quote from: MochaNutz;263312
DJ OSK mixtape
Big L, Kool G Rap, Lord Finesse, Big Daddy Kane, Redman
remixed over RZA beats

Thanks! That mixtape is pretty dope.

Quote
"Why spend Christmas eve waiting for some extra fat white dude to come busting through the ceiling, when you can spend Christmas eve with yours truly The Supervillain, DOOM"

DOOM is that dude :lol:
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Post by: Masa on December 22, 2006, 07:17:17 AM
"It's Official," Wu Tang Clan Sign Album Deal With SRC

SRC Records CEO Steve Rifkind recently announced that he has reunited with the Wu-Tang Clan for a new album.

Wu-Tang, who first came to prominence via Rifkind's now-defunct Loud Records, have not released a group album since 2001. During their six-year hiatus, all nine members of the New York rap collective have released solo albums.

The group's most infamous member, ODB (born Russell Tyrone Jones), died in 2004 from an accidental overdose while recording his third solo project.

"I just got off the phone with Divine and RZA from Wu-Tang, we are coming back, we are joining forces for one album, coming up in 2007," said Rifkind via a video on his blog, thelabel.blog.com. "I don't know what the name of the album is but we are back, its official. Wu-Tang and Steve Rifkind are back together."

Rifkind is also credited for breaking rap acts like Mobb Deep, Big Pun and Xzibit, among others. His current SRC roster includes Akon, Remy Ma, Pharoahe Monch and Remy Ma.

http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/10516

Here's the video:
http://thelabel.blog.com/1380189/#cmts
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Post by: daigong on December 22, 2006, 07:24:31 AM
Quote from: Masa;264651
"It's Official," Wu Tang Clan Sign Album Deal With SRC

:ONomg: FUCK YES!!! :bounceblob:

 Lol I never realized reason Wu-Tang never released shit was cuz Sony/Loud dropped em. I always assumed they would release a disc cuz RZA kept saying "soon"

I can see it now: Wu-Tang  Double CD with shitload of guests like Akon, Kardinal-


DOPE mixtape Mocha!! Reservoir Dogs + Rap  :pimp: and fuck...hope they show that MF Doom Xmas thing on Teletoon, else I gotta leech.
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Post by: Masa on December 22, 2006, 07:27:08 PM
Is Hip Hop Dead?
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2737981
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on December 22, 2006, 10:58:25 PM
"Somebody told you that hip hop died, I dunno who it was but somebody lied"

There's a  new Pete Rock & Doo Wop (Tango & Cash) track called "Hip Hop Ain't Dead".  Its a dope track.  Heard it on hiphopgame dot com.  Its really a response than a diss track, i feel.  I like was Nas did with this Hip Hop is Dead business.  I hope everyone responds and steps their game up.

-----

Wu-Tang again?  Awww yeah! Again and again!
This is great news =)
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Post by: Masa on December 23, 2006, 07:04:18 AM
New Raekwon interview about CL2:
http://www.hiphopgame.com/index2.php3?page=raekwon
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Post by: Tanier on December 25, 2006, 04:15:06 AM
As promised Rapper Chamillionaire (aka a bunch of nicknames, however, I'm not going there) has just released Mixtape Messiah Part 2 to give back to the fans. blah blah blah blah Merry Christmas. I got what i always wanted now hahaha
visit http://www.chamillionaire.com for the most up to date download link(s)
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Post by: Masa on December 25, 2006, 06:13:54 AM
Another one of my favorite MCs is dropping an album next year. That's right, Brother Ali is finally back!

"Following the release of Champion in the spring of 2004, Ali ran into a number of roadblocks that halted his usually steady recording process. This included him parting ways with his wife, being homeless, and trying to secure custody of his son. Armed with a wave of stories to share, Ali recorded The Undisputed Truth, once again with ANT in his corner. Due out Spring 2007 on Rhymesayers, Ali’s second full-length sees him dig deeper into his life experiences (“Walking Away”) and political views (“Uncle Sam Goddamn”) than ever before.

“I wanted to make an album that gives you no choice but to feel what I’m feeling at the time,” Ali explains of The Undisputed Truth. “I made choices that sent me through a lot of struggle in the past few years and ANT and I have made music that really communicates the exact feeling of those situations.”

As he ponders, “How does it feel to have to walk away from a ten-year marriage with a child? You got a six-year-old boy and he’s your life. How does it feel to look him in the eye and explain to him that you’re breaking up his home? The music and the sound of my voice and the way I’m describing the situations and emotions involved should make you feel like you’re in my shoes at that moment. That’s The Undisputed Truth.”


Brother Ali - Truth Is VLS
01. Truth Is (Clean)
02. Truth Is (Dirty)
03. Freedom Ain't Free (Clean)
04. Truth Is (Instrumental)  
05. Freedom Ain't Free (Instrumental)
06. Original King (Bonus Track)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/fnzdoy
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: RionZ on December 25, 2006, 04:19:13 PM
That Pharaohe Monch mixtape is dope, I already grabbed it myself a few days ago. d(^_^d)

And this is big news for the Wu...I always thought what daigong thought...RZA said they got something they're working on and it'll be 'soon'... but this makes much more sense, I hope they don't have too many collaborations though...unless they're good...lol
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on December 27, 2006, 09:49:49 PM
Nas Resurrects Hip-Hop, Scores Top Spot On Billboard Charts

"Nas' Def Jam debut, Hip Hop Is Dead, makes a strong entrance on the charts this week, taking the No. 1 spot on the Billboard 200. Hip Hop Is Dead, which features appearances from Jay-Z, Kanye West, The Game, Kelis and Snoop Dogg, grabbed the top spot by reeling in 355,000 copies last week, according to Nielsen SoundScan. This is the third time in Nas' career that he has scored a No. 1 album. The others being 1996's It Was Written and 1999's I am...The Autobiography."

http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/10552

Nas' sales :thumbsup

Danger Mouse Forms Producer "Supergroup," Drops Compilation

"Producer Danger Mouse of Gnarls Barkley fame has formed a new group of renowned beatmakers called The Underground Animals and is currently putting together a compilation album set for release next year via Downtown/Atlantic Records.

According to Downtown co-founder Josh Deutsch, who recently spoke to Billboard, The Underground Animals will be an animated collective in the same vein of the rock group Gorillaz, but their true identities will be kept under wraps.

The participating producers will be brought to life courtesy of animation from Adult Swim.

"We have some very celebrated producers and some up-and-comers, all of whom are arranged around Danger," Deutsch explained to Billboard. "Everybody is producing under a pseudonym. For the introductory album, the idea is that each song will feature a different producer working with a different artist, but 'there won't be a reveal as to which producer is doing a given track.

"There will be an element of mystery about it -- certain producers will be retired," Deutsch continued. "And many of these people are some of the most famous producers out there. It will allow them to produce the kinds of records they wouldn't necessarily want to do without the benefit of a pseudonym. We've already had a really A-list rock guy wanting to do a hip-hop record."

As SOHH previously reported, Danger Mouse is also putting together Gnarls Barkley's sophomore album with his group mate Cee-Lo. The duo's debut album, St Elsewhere, is up for multiple Grammy Awards, including album of the year."

http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/10553
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on December 28, 2006, 07:27:34 AM
Common - A Dream music video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBa55sDTIiA

Another visually stunning Com video :yep:
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on December 30, 2006, 05:45:30 PM
The First Annual JPH!P Rap Awards

Artist of the Year: Ghostface Killah
Album of the Year: The Roots - Game Theory
Song of the Year: Nas & Jay-Z - Black Republican
Mixtape of the Year: Clinton Sparks And DJ Boogie Brown Present: Pharoahe Monch - The Awakening
Producer of the Year: J. Dilla
Rookie of the Year: Lupe Fiasco
Disappointing Album of the Year: Jay-Z - Kingdom Come / DJ Shadow - Outsider
Biggest disappointment of the Year: Jay-Z's comeback
Greatest Moment of the Year: Nas & Jay-Z collaborating
Saddest Moment of the Year: Death of J. Dilla (R.I.P.)
Coast/Region of the Year: East Coast
No Homo Moment of the Year: Lil' Wayne kissing Baby
Kanye West Moment of the Year: Kanye's rant @ MTV Europe Music Awards
Young Jeezy Award (best adlibs): Young Jeezy (yeeeeeeah)
Comeback of the Year: Busta Rhymes & Method Man

Best MCs
1. Lupe Fiasco
2. Ghostface Killah
3. Nas
4. Black Thought
5. Apathy

Best Albums
1. The Roots - Game Theory
2. Ghostface - Fishscale
3. Lupe Fiasco - Food & Liquor
4. Bronze Nazareth - The Great Migration
5. Apathy - Eastern Philosophy
6. Cunninlynguists - A Piece of Strange
7. Nas - Hip Hop Is Dead
8. J. Dilla - Donuts
9. Panacea - Ink Is My Drink
10. Jedi Mind Tricks - Servants In Heaven Kings In Hell
11. Outkast - Idlewild
12. ShinSight Trio - Shallow Nights Blurry Moon
13. Ghostface - More Fish
14. Chino XL - Poison Pen
15. Rhymefest - Blue Collar
16. Louis Logic and J.J. Brown - Misery Loves Comedy
17. Boot Camp Clik - The Last Stand
18. J. Dilla - The Shining
19. Hi-Tek - Hi-Teknology 2: The Chip
20. Masta Killa - Made In Brooklyn

Best Major Label Releases
1. The Roots - Game Theory
2. Ghostface - Fishscale
3. Lupe Fiasco - Food & Liquor
4. Nas - Hip Hop Is Dead
5. Outkast - Idlewild
6. Ghostface - More Fish
7. Busta Rhymes - The Big Bang
8. Method Man - 4:21... The Day After
9. T.I. - King
10. Young Jeezy - The Inspiration: Thug Motivation 102
11. Snoop Dogg - Tha Blue Carpet Treatment
12. Mos Def - True Magic
13. Clipse - Hell Hath No Fury
14. Jay-Z - Kingdom Come
15. Jurassic 5 - Feedback
16. DMX - Year Of The Dog
17. Rick Ross - Port Of Miami
18. Chamillionaire - The Sound Of Revenge
19. The Game - Doctor's Advocate
20. Diddy - Press Play

Best Indie releases
1. Bronze Nazareth - The Great Migration
2. Apathy - Eastern Philosophy
3. Cunninlynguists - A Piece of Strange
4. J. Dilla - Donuts
5. Panacea - Ink Is My Drink
6. Jedi Mind Tricks - Servants In Heaven Kings In Hell
7. ShinSight Trio - Shallow Nights Blurry Moon
8. Chino XL - Poison Pen
9. Rhymefest - Blue Collar
10. Louis Logic and J.J. Brown - Misery Loves Comedy
11. Boot Camp Clik - The Last Stand
12. J. Dilla - The Shining
13. Hi-Tek - Hi-Teknology 2: The Chip
14. Masta Killa - Made In Brooklyn
15. Warcloud - Blue Sky Black Death Presents The Holocaust
16. MF Grimm - American Hunger
17. AZ - The Format
18. Kidz In The Hall - School Was My Hustle
19. Mr. Lif - Mo' Mega
20. Lord Jamar- The 5 Percent Album

Honorable mentions: Prince Po - Pretty Black, Mojoe - Classic Ghetto Soul

Best Coke Rap Albums aka Tony Montana Would Be Proud Of These Guys
1. Ghostface Killah - Fishscale
2. Busta Rhymes - The Big Bang
3. Young Jeezy - The Inspiration: Thug Motivation 102
4. Rick Ross - Port Of Miami
5. Clipse - Hell Hath No Fury

Best Songs
1. Nas & Jay-Z - Black Republican
2. The Roots - Can't Stop This
3. Lupe Fiasco - Daydreamin' feat. Jill Scott
4. Jedi Mind Tricks - Uncommon Valor feat. R.A. The Rugged Man
5. Apathy - The Winter feat. Blue Rasberry

Best Club Tracks
1. Justin Timberlake - SexyBack
2. Busta Rhymes - Touch It (remix)
3. Chamillionaire - Ridin' Dirty
4. T.I. - Why You Wanna
5. Rick Ross - Hustlin' (remix) feat. Jay-Z & Young Jeezy

Verse of the Year: R.A. The Rugged Man - Uncommon Valor: A Vietnam Story

"Call me Thorburn, John H., staff sergeant
Marksman, skill in killin', illin', I'm able and willin'
Kill a village elephant, rapin' and pillage a village
Illegitimate killers, US Military guerrillas
This ain't no real war, Vietnam shit
World War II, that's a war, this is just a military conflict
Soothin' drug abusin', Vietnamese women screwin'
Sex, gambling and boozin', all this shit is amusin'
Bitches and guns, this is every man's dream
I don't wanna go home where I'm just an ordinary human being
Special Op, Huey chopper gun ship run shit
Gook run when the minigun spit, won't miss
Kill shit, spit four-thousand bullets a minute
Vic the Charlie, hit trigger, hit it, I'm in it to win it
Get it, the lieutenant hinted, the villain, I been it
The killing, I did it, cripple, did it, pictures I painted is vivid, live it
A wizard with weapons, the secret mission, we 'bout to begin it
Government funded, behind enemy lines
Bullets is sprayin', it's heatin' up a hundred degrees
The enemies the North Vietnamese, bitch please
Ain't no sweat, I'm told, "Be at ease"
Until I see the pilot got hit, and we 'bout to hit some trees
Nail the road, it broke, crash land
American man in Cambodia, right in the enemy hand
Take a swig of the Whiskey to calm us
Them yellow men wearin' black pajamas, they wanna harm us
They all up on us, bang, bang, bullet hit my chest, feel no pain
To my left, the captain caught a bullet right in his brain
Body parts flyin', loss of limbs, explosions
Bad intentions, I see my best friend's intestines
Pray to the one above, it's raining, I'm covered in mud
I think I'm dyin', I feel dizzy, I'm losin' blood
I see my childhood, I'm back in the arms of my mother
I see my whole life, I see Christ, I see bright lights
I see Israelites, Muslims and Christians at peace, no fights
Black, Whites, Asians, people of all types
I must've died, then I woke up, surprised I'm alive
I'm in a hospital bed, they rescued me, I survived
I escaped the war, came back, but ain't escape Agent Orange
Two of my kids born handicapped
Spastic, quadriplegia, micro cephalic
Cerebral palsy, cortical blindness, name it, they had it
My son died, he ain't live, but I still try to think positive
'Cause in life, God take, God give"

Most Anticipated Albums of 2007
1. Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx 2
2. Pharoahe Monch - Desire
3. Ghostface Killah & MF Doom - Swift And Changeable
4. Brother Ali - The Undisputed Truth
5. Common - Finding Forever
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: hide321 on December 30, 2006, 06:53:40 PM
Artist of the Year: Lupe Fiasco
Album of the Year: Cunninlynguists - A Piece of Strange
Song of the Year: Nas & Jay-Z - Black Republican
Mixtape of the Year: Lil Wayne - Dedication 2
Producer of the Year: J-Dilla
Rookie of the Year: Lupe Fiasco
Disappointing Album of the Year: DJ Shadow - Outsider
Biggest disappointment of the Year: Jay-Z's comeback
Greatest Moment of the Year: Nas & Jay-Z collaborating
Saddest Moment of the Year: Death of James Brown & J-Dilla
Coast/Region of the Year: East Coast
Comeback of the Year: Method Man

Best MCs
1. Lupe Fiasco
2. Ghostface Killah
3. Nas
4. Black Thought
5. Lil Wayne

Best Albums
01. Cunninlynguists - A Piece of Strange
02. MF Grimm - American Hunger
03. The Roots - The Game Theory
04. Lupe Fiasco - Food & Liquor
05. ShinSight Trio - Shallow Nights Blurry Moon
06. Outkast - Idlewild
07. Chino XL - Poison Pen
08. Bronze Nazareth - The Great Migration
09. Hi-tek - Hi Teknology: 2
10. Nas - Hip-hop is Dead
11. Ghostface - Fishscale
12. Clipse - Hell Hath No Fury
13. Z-ro - I'm Still Living
14. Rhymefest - Blue Collar
15. Mr.Nogacto - Nogacto Rd.
16. Project Polaroid - Project Polaroid
17. Zion I - Break A Dawn
18. Zion I & Grouch - Heroes in the city of dope
19. Strange Fruit Project - The Healing
20. MURS - Murray's Revenge

Best Major Label Releases
01. The Roots - The Game Theory
02. Lupe Fiasco - Food & Liquor
03. Outkast - Idlewild
04. Nas - Hip-hop is Dead
05. Ghostface - Fishscale
06. Rhymefest - Blue Collar
07. Clipse - Hell Hath No Fury
08. Ghostface - More Fish
09. T.I. - King
10. Project Pat - Crook by da Book: The Fed Story
11. Snoop Dogg - The Blue Carpet Treatment
12. Tha Dogg Pound - Cali Iz Active
13. Method Man - 4:21...The Day After
14. Birdman & Lil Wayne - Like Father, Like Son
15. Mos Def - True Magic
16. DMX - Year of the Dog...Again
17. Bone Thugs-N-Harmony: Thug Stories
18. Jay-Z - Kingdom Come
19. Young Jeezy - The Inspiration: Thug Motivation 102
20. Jurassic 5 - Feedback
Honorable mentions: The Game - Doctor's Advocate , Diddy - Press Play

Best Indie releases
01. Cunninlynguists - A Piece of Strange
02. MF Grimm - American Hunger
03. ShinSight Trio - Shallow Nights Blurry Moon
04. Chino XL - Poison Pen
05. Bronze Nazareth - The Great Migration
06. Hi-tek - Hi Teknology: 2
07. Z-ro - I'm Still Living
08. Mr.Nogacto - Nogacto Rd.
09. Project Polaroid - Project Polaroid
10. Zion I & Grouch - Heroes in the city of dope
11. Zion I - Break A Dawn
12. Strange Fruit Project - The Healing
13. MURS - Murray's Revenge
14. Jedi Mind Tricks - Servants in Heaven, Kings in Hell
15. J-Dilla - Donuts
16. Madlib - Beat Konducta Vol.1-2 Movie Scenes
17. Public Enemy - Rebirth of a Nation
18. Motion Man - Pablito's Way
19. J-Dilla - The Shining
20. De La Soul - Impossible Mission TV Series Pt. 1
Honorable mentions: Mr. Lif - Mo' Mega, Warcloud - Blue Sky Black Death Presents The Holocaust

Best Songs
1. Nas - Black Republican (ft. Jay-Z)
2. Lupe Fiasco - Hurt Me Soul
3. The Roots - In The Music
4. Z-ro - T.H.U.G
5. Jedi Mind Tricks - Uncommon Valor (ft. R.A. The Rugged Man)

Verse of the Year: R.A. The Rugged Man - Uncommon Valor: A Vietnam Story

"Call me Thorburn, John H., staff sergeant
Marksman, skill in killin', illin', I'm able and willin'
Kill a village elephant, rapin' and pillage a village
Illegitimate killers, US Military guerrillas
This ain't no real war, Vietnam shit
World War II, that's a war, this is just a military conflict
Soothin' drug abusin', Vietnamese women screwin'
Sex, gambling and boozin', all this shit is amusin'
Bitches and guns, this is every man's dream
I don't wanna go home where I'm just an ordinary human being
Special Op, Huey chopper gun ship run shit
Gook run when the minigun spit, won't miss
Kill shit, spit four-thousand bullets a minute
Vic the Charlie, hit trigger, hit it, I'm in it to win it
Get it, the lieutenant hinted, the villain, I been it
The killing, I did it, cripple, did it, pictures I painted is vivid, live it
A wizard with weapons, the secret mission, we 'bout to begin it
Government funded, behind enemy lines
Bullets is sprayin', it's heatin' up a hundred degrees
The enemies the North Vietnamese, bitch please
Ain't no sweat, I'm told, "Be at ease"
Until I see the pilot got hit, and we 'bout to hit some trees
Nail the road, it broke, crash land
American man in Cambodia, right in the enemy hand
Take a swig of the Whiskey to calm us
Them yellow men wearin' black pajamas, they wanna harm us
They all up on us, bang, bang, bullet hit my chest, feel no pain
To my left, the captain caught a bullet right in his brain
Body parts flyin', loss of limbs, explosions
Bad intentions, I see my best friend's intestines
Pray to the one above, it's raining, I'm covered in mud
I think I'm dyin', I feel dizzy, I'm losin' blood
I see my childhood, I'm back in the arms of my mother
I see my whole life, I see Christ, I see bright lights
I see Israelites, Muslims and Christians at peace, no fights
Black, Whites, Asians, people of all types
I must've died, then I woke up, surprised I'm alive
I'm in a hospital bed, they rescued me, I survived
I escaped the war, came back, but ain't escape Agent Orange
Two of my kids born handicapped
Spastic, quadriplegia, micro cephalic
Cerebral palsy, cortical blindness, name it, they had it
My son died, he ain't live, but I still try to think positive
'Cause in life, God take, God give"

Most Anticipated Albums of 2007
Del tha Funky Homosapien - 11th Hour
Deltron 2
Pep Love - Reconstruction
Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx 2
Ghostface Killah & MF Doom - Swift And Changeable
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on January 01, 2007, 03:43:46 PM
The first release of 2007 is already here! Liberation is a free album by Madlib and Talib Kweli. The concept is simple: Madlib's behind the boards and Kweli's on the mic. Kweli + Madlib = straight fire :yep:

Talib Kweli and Madlib - Liberation
(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8754/29089420184637ba9f1ogc7.jpg)
01. The Show
02. Funny Money
03. Time Is Right
04. Engine Running feat. Consequence
05. Over The Counter
06. The Function feat. Strong Arm Steady
07. Happy Home feat. Candice Anderson
08. Soul Music
09. What Can I Do

DL:
http://www.rappcats.com/
http://www.gimmemoremusic.com/uploads/Liberation_Talib_Kweli.zip
http://www.sendspace.com/file/h931vm
http://www.stonesthrow.com/liberation/
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on January 03, 2007, 05:22:20 PM
(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8034/jaggq9.jpg)
http://rapidshare.com/files/9707807/79-06.zip

Pharoahe Monch - Gun Draws music video
http://videos.onsmash.com/v/tTC1TMMtBAcKpLLP
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: sh15uya on January 03, 2007, 08:45:36 PM
french rap , anyone ?



(http://ayu4eva.free.fr/jph!p/V56652641_.jpg)
d/l: Booba - Ouest Side (http://download.yousendit.com/2D4BE76C21E6EC7E)
official site: http://booba92i.artistes.universalmusic.fr/en/
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: cool_kickin_dude on January 04, 2007, 05:11:44 AM
ok guys, need some rap in my ipod. any new or old stuff I should get? I'm pretty much broke from the H!P stuff I bought
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on January 04, 2007, 06:38:20 AM
Quote from: Masa;274125
(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8034/jaggq9.jpg)
http://rapidshare.com/files/9707807/79-06.zip

this is too dope!  So much classics!  Wish it were longer than 2 bars each, but that would make it super long.  Nice up!  I'mma have to download a lot of these forgotten gems.  I found the tracklisting (but not in order) here : http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/mistajam/2006/12/19792006_a_hiphop_odyssey_1.shtml
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: sh15uya on January 04, 2007, 09:35:44 AM
(http://ayu4eva.free.fr/jph!p/V39608633_.jpg)
d/l: Keny Arkana - Entre Ciment Et Belle Etoile - part1 (http://download.yousendit.com/11496F981CA81C7A)
d/l: Keny Arkana - Entre Ciment Et Belle Etoile - part2 (http://download.yousendit.com/D416C7A93D1D7AE0)
official site: http://www.keny-arkana.com/
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on January 05, 2007, 01:46:23 PM
(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8111/88ww0.jpg)
Tracklist:
1. whatcha' got
2. lookin' at me sideways
3. truth is
4. puzzle
5. pedigree
6. freedom ain't free
7. letter from the government
8. here
9. listen up
10. take me home
11. uncle sam goddamn
12. walkin' away
13. ear to ear
http://rapidshare.com/files/10165412/ali07.zip

:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on January 08, 2007, 07:10:24 AM
http://lethalspitpoetry.blogspot.com/

just a site i found, has some cool albums and whatnot
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on January 13, 2007, 04:40:42 PM
Today on HHH: Pharoahe Monch Special

Pharoahe Monch - Internal Affairs album
http://www.sendspace.com/file/pc2bg2
http://rapidshare.com/files/11525044/Pharoahe_Monch_-_Internal_Affairs.rar.html

Hip Hop Journalist Peter Rosenberg Interviews Pharoahe Monch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3IWTdyt2sE
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Masa on January 17, 2007, 10:09:17 AM
New Common shit!

Common - Play Your Cards Right feat. Bilal (from Smoking Aces soundtrack)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/2tbihv

Play Your Cards Right live on Tonight Show
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzbw8_common-play-your-cards-right

Common performing with a live band = :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Common & Will.I.Am - Cipher (1-15-2007) video
http://videos.onsmash.com/v/M5Xgl5DgUWrAFJcf

MP3
http://www.sendspace.com/file/qntvoj

Common is freestyling off the dome and sounding as dope as always. It's always nice to see legends like Common freestyling and I wish established MCs did it more often.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on January 18, 2007, 10:27:13 AM
DAMN. DAMN. I'll try to get my Top 2006 Rap List when I get a chance.

NEW COMMON SHIT! WOOT! I was just watching him on Late Late Show,
here's that clip I saw:
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And Snoop Dogg + Cube rocked the joint tonite!! Too bad I skipped it, even if it was an overhyped arena show.
Title: DJ Drama and DJ Cannon gets "busted" selling "illegal" mixtapes
Post by: Tanier on January 18, 2007, 11:42:27 PM
[yt]Khz6JocD-6A[/yt]
no more gangsta grills! you bastards ;_;
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on January 25, 2007, 07:03:20 PM
FUCK YEAH!!!:pimp:

Wu Tang Clan name new album
Rap collective plan to breathe new life in hip-hop

Wu Tang Clan have revealed further details of their forthcoming comeback album.

As previously reported on NME.COM, the hip-hop legends signed up for a one album deal at the end of 2006.

Now band member RZA has confirmed that the band will release a new LP entitled '8 Diagram' in the US later this summer through SRC Records.

He added: "People want something that gives them an adrenaline rush. We're here to supply that fix. How could hip-hop be dead if Wu Tang is forever? We're here to revive the spirit and the economics and bring in a wave of energy that has lately dissipated."

The release is expected to feature unreleased material from the late Ol' Dirty Bastard and a tribute track called 'Life Changes', reports Billboard.

The collective are also planning to tour later this year, although no dates have yet been announced.

Before that the band will release a rarities collection in the US on February 6 entitled 'Wu Tang Clan & Friends - Unreleased

source: http://www.nme.com/news/wu-tang-clan/26047
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: RatBastich on January 25, 2007, 07:08:53 PM
^Thats some great news there, dai, thanks for the heads up on that. :thumbsup
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on January 25, 2007, 11:36:05 PM
Incase no one copped this yet

(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0000269IF.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V48805672_.jpg)

1) Afro Theme (skit)
2) Afro Intro
3) Certified Samurai feat. Talib Kweli & Lil' Free
4) Just A Lil' Dude (Who Dat Ovah There) feat. Q-Tip & Free Murder
5) Afro's Father Fight
6) Oh feat. Stone Mecca & Allen Anthony
7) The Walk feat. Stone Mecca
8) Bazooka Fight Ver. 1
9) Who The Man? feat. Reverend William Burk
10) Ninjaman
11) Cameo Afro feat. GZA & Big Daddy Kane
12) Yung Afro
13) Take Sword Pt. I feat. 60 Second Assassin & True Master
14) Deadly Six
15) Baby
16) Take Sword Pt. II feat. Beretta 9
17) Bazooka Fight Ver. 2
18) Fury
19) Afro Outro

http://w11.easy-share.com/814719.html
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on January 26, 2007, 11:58:17 AM
FUCK YES Mocha! Keep dropping these when u get em man.

I dug the sample off http://www.wutangcorp.com, so refreshing to hear the guitars + GZA.

I'm hearing Just Blaze and Kanye West doing producing on the new Wu joint, ehhhh....I'm mixed on that. This might be another Iron Flag.
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Post by: StreakInTheSky on January 26, 2007, 12:18:46 PM
ooo thanks mocha!
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Post by: wakaba_doll on January 27, 2007, 02:49:52 AM
A new Wu-Tang album is coming out this summer?? I thought they had broken up... XD LOL
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Post by: MochaNutz on January 28, 2007, 09:07:44 AM
Little Brother and 9th Wonder part ways, and asking for a release from Atlantic.

Quote from: Hiphopgame
"First, I want to say that Little Brother has not been dropped from
Atlantic," Rapper Pooh told HipHopGame. "At this time we are in the
process of negotiating our release from the label due to a difference in
philosophies."

"We asked to be released," Manager Big Dho added. "I think we may just
put the album out on Asylum to close our deal, but it's definitely a
wrap for us at Atlantic. We weren't happy with how things were going and
we decided we wanted to leave and on their end, they decided that they
didn't want to deal with that either."

"It's no big deal though," Dho added. "Nobody on our end is mad or has
any ill feelings towards their company."

"It wasn't a situation where they decided to drop us due to lack of
sales," Pooh said. "If that was the case, they never would have opened
up the budget for us to record Getback ."

Getback, Little Brother's third album, is close to completion but has no
release date yet.

"We as a group just felt that it was not in our best interest to remain
in a situation where our needs were constantly being overlooked. We
didn't have an A&R for The Minstrel Show. We don't have any type of
relationship with our current A&R. There are just a lot of internal
issues that ended up working against us."

Pooh also addressed the rumors regarding producer 9th Wonder's
involvement, or lack thereof, in Little Brother's Getback. "Little
Brother has decided, in the best interest of the group, for Little
Brother and 9th Wonder to part ways. There are no hard feelings and no
beef. This is just a decision that had to be made so all three of us
could move forward and continue to provide the world with dope music.

Little Brother's latest mixtape, And Justus For All, mixed by DJ Mick
Boogie, will be available for download February 13. "The decision to
release And Justus For All via download was a decision made by us. After
the Drama situation, we felt it was in the best interest of all of us to
just give this mixtape away with the current climate of the mixtape
scene."

And Justus For All will be available for download February 13. More
details on where to download it will be given closer to the release
date.


I wish for the best on their separate ways.  Little Brother isn't the same anymore.
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Post by: MochaNutz on January 30, 2007, 06:39:11 PM
http://www.stonesthrow.com/chromechildren/
Chrome Children 2 Download

Stones Throw sure is doing a lot of free download stuff =)  I like it
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Post by: MochaNutz on January 31, 2007, 09:14:14 PM
Nas - Where Are They Now 90s Remix feat. Redhead Kingpin, Rob Base, Original Spinderella, Father MC, Monie Love, Mike Gee of the Jungle Brothers, E-S-T of 3XDope, Positive K, Das Efx, DoItAll of Lords of the Underground, Chip-Fu of the Fu-Schnickens and Dres of Black Sheep

http://www.zshare.net/audio/nas-where_are_they_now_90s_remix-mp3-kt1.html
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Post by: N1CK70 on February 12, 2007, 09:24:08 PM
Jin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jin_%28rapper%29)'s new album, ABC, scheduled for release February 20, 2007.

http://www.rapidshare.com/files/15905269/371351.zip

Mostly in Cantonese.  Enjoy!
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Post by: StreakInTheSky on February 13, 2007, 01:12:22 AM
:lol: jin
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Post by: daigong on February 13, 2007, 02:37:27 AM
I thought Jin fuckin retired XD

Props for those DLS MochaNutz - lol Nas bringing back the remix. Whateva. did u listen to new Mathematics?

and hey, it's Chinese New Year around the corner :P

The First Annual JPH!P Rap Awards

Artist of the Year: Kardinal Offishall
Album of the Year: Kardinal Offishall - Canadian Coke
Song of the Year: Busta Rhymes - Touch It (remix)
Mixtape of the Year: Inspectah Deck - The Resident Patient 2006
Producer of the Year: RZA
Rookie of the Year: Lupe Fiasco
Disappointing Album of the Year: Jay-Z - Kingdom Come
Biggest disappointment of the Year: Jay-Z's comeback
Greatest Moment of the Year: Wu-Tang Clan album in 2007
Saddest Moment of the Year: Death of James Brown
Coast/Region of the Year: West Coast
No Homo Moment of the Year: Masa pimping JT
Comeback of the Year: Busta Rhymes

Best MCs
1. Kardinal Offishall
2. Ghostface Killah
3. Snoop Dogg
4. Lupe Fiasco
5. Papoose

Best Releases
1. Kardinal Offishall - Canadian Coke
2. Ghostface - Fishscale
3. Lupe Fiasco - Food & Liquor
4. Busta Rhymes - The Big Bang
5. DMX - Year Of The Dog Again
6. Inspectah Deck - The Resident Patient 2006
7. Method Man - 4-21 The Day After
8. Snoop Dogg - The Blue Carpet Treatment
9. Papoose - The 4th Quarter Assassin
10. Clinton Sparks & Kanye West - Smashtime Radio Vol. 1 (2006)
11. Ice Cube - Laugh Now, Cry Later
12. Masta kilah - Made In Brooklyn
13. Ghostface & MF Doom - Heavy Metal Vol. 2
14. Ghostface Killah - More_Fish
15. Dub Floyd - The Official Boondocks Mixtape
16. Eminem Presents - The Re-Up
17. Papoose - Streetsweepers Presents Papoose: Second Place Is The First Loser
18. Ice-T - Gangsta Rap
19. Mobb Deep - Blood Money
20. Flavor Flav - Hollywood

Best Songs
1. Busta Rhymes - Touch It (remix)
2. 9 Milli Bros. (Feat. Wu-Tang Clan)
3. Back Like That (Feat. Ne-Yo)
4. Be Easy (Feat. Trife)
5. DMX - Walk these Days feat. Kashmir

Verse of the Year: BUSTA RHYMES (f/ Mary J. Blige, Missy Elliott, Rah Digga)

[Verse 1: Busta Rhymes]
See now you who the God be, back runnin the city and you know who the squad be
Flipmode bitch look see ain't nothin changed
Now I'm back with the remix with the Queens of the game (TURN IT UP!!)
WHEN YOU SEE ME IN THE SPOT YOU n****S BETTER RESPECT IT
Y'ALL ALREADY KNOW WHERE I REP AIN'T NO REASON TO CHECK IT
AND I KNOW THAT YOU AIN'T FUCKIN WITH ME JUST FOR THE RECORD
SO INSTEAD I'M A LET, MARY J. BLIGE COME AND SET IT

[Verse 2: Mary J. Blige (Busta Rhymes)]
(Now get low Mary!) Maybe you can guess who it is (Uh huh)
Mary J. Blige about to handle my biz (Uh huh)
I'm on my grown woman still I rep for the kids
In every hood, and all my peoples doin a bid (TURN IT UP!!)
NOW YOU KNOW WHO'S REALLY THE QUEEN DELIVER THE MAIL
SEVEN HUNDRED THIRTY THOUSAND FIRST WEEK OF MY SALES
THE HATERS PLOT AND THEY WATCH LOOKIN ALL PALE
WHILE I'M ON A YACHT, OVERSEAS DOIN MY NAILS
(Get low Mary!) Well let me show you how we do (Ha!)
I gotta thank everyone for coppin The Breakthrough (Uh huh)
Bus did take one the remix is take two
You love the way we reinventin how we just stay new (TURN IT UP!!)
HOW WE SELLIN OUT THEB STADIUMS, ARENAS AND ALL (Ha!!!)
ONLY LOUIS AND GUCCI WE DON'T SHOP AT THE MALL (Huh!)
GOT YOU PARTYIN AND DANCIN AND HAVIN A BALL
AND YOUR LOVIN THE WAY WE REPPIN HOW WE DO IT FOR Y'ALL GO 'HEAD AND

Most Anticipated Albums of 2007
1. Wu-Tang Clan - 8 Diagrams
2. Kardinal Offishall - Not for Sale
3. Ol Dirty Bastard - A Son Unique  
4. Ghostface Killah & MF Doom - Swift And Changeable
5. Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx 2
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Post by: mode107 on February 13, 2007, 02:40:06 AM
the other day me and my friend were talking bout the best rap lines ever. For me it was, "my teeth are mindblowing giving everybody chills, call me george foreman cuz i'm selling everybody grills," from nelly's grills.I just really love that line cuz it ties in so perfectly, that is if you know who george foreman is.
Title: hye.....
Post by: tempethegreat on February 13, 2007, 04:06:11 AM
are wu tang clan is still exist?????:)
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Post by: meowchi on February 13, 2007, 11:10:59 PM
Best damn rap video ever made!

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a124/mayuaoi/vlcsnap-262442.png)(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a124/mayuaoi/vlcsnap-262692.png)(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a124/mayuaoi/vlcsnap-262762.png)
 Puff Daddy feat. Notorious B I G & Busta Rhymes - - Victory.mpg 76MB (http://filedump.jphip.com/meowchi/Puff%20Daddy%20feat.%20Notorious%20BIG%20&%20Busta%20Rhymes%20-%20Victory.mpg) (http://filedump.jphip.com/meowchi/Puff%20Daddy%20feat.%20Notorious%20BIG%20&%20Busta%20Rhymes%20-%20Victory.mpg)
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Post by: MikMix04 on February 14, 2007, 07:15:58 PM
For me the best bars came from Inspectah deck of the Wu.

I bomb atomically, Socrates' philosophies
and hypothesis can't define how I be droppin these
mockeries, lyrically perform armed robbery
Flee with the lottery, possibly they spotted me
Battle-scarred shogun, explosion when my pen hits
tremendous, ultra-violet shine blind forensics
I inspect you, through the future see millenium
Killa B's sold fifty gold sixty platinum
Shacklin the masses with drastic rap tactics
Graphic displays melt the steel like blacksmiths
Black Wu jackets queen B's ease the guns in
Rumble with patrolmen, tear gas laced the function
Heads by the score take flight incite a war
Chicks hit the floor, diehard fans demand more
Behold the bold soldier, control the globe slowly
Proceeds to blow swingin swords like Shinobi
Stomp grounds and pound footprints in solid rock
Wu got it locked, performin live on your hottest block
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Post by: daigong on February 19, 2007, 11:36:05 AM
Quote from: meowchi;307949
Best damn rap video ever made!
Puff Daddy feat. Notorious B I G & Busta Rhymes - - Victory.mpg 76MB (http://filedump.jphip.com/meowchi/Puff%20Daddy%20feat.%20Notorious%20BIG%20&%20Busta%20Rhymes%20-%20Victory.mpg) (http://filedump.jphip.com/meowchi/Puff%20Daddy%20feat.%20Notorious%20BIG%20&%20Busta%20Rhymes%20-%20Victory.mpg)


OMGASS THAT WAS SICK!! That's the first rap karaoke video I ever seen lol, I request some WU-TANG! where my soldiers is at! where my soldiers is at! ahhh, that really pumped me up.

And the video...don't think they ever made a video that expensive again lol. to quote Chappelle Show: "They should never given y'all n****** money!!!"


I dedicated a few songs to Doc Doomon the recent episode of HiP HoP Hizzy....
Quote
Doc Doom shot to death  - 2007-02-13 11:15:28
© The Wu-Tang Corp.- 2007-02-13

Yet another tragedy has struck the Wu-fam and Hip Hop community as another talented artist was murdered. Doc Doom from the Wu-fam group The Almighty Black Knights was shot and killed in Compton on February 11th.

Doc Doom and his Black Knights appeared on releases such as RZA Presents Wu-Tang Killa Bees: The Swarm.

Doc Doom, real name Dante Cunningham, was working on new material for the Black Knights as well as contributing to the upcoming Bobby Digital album due late this year.

We mourn for the loss of Doc Doom and wish to send our condolences to his family and friends.

Stop the violence!


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New Hell Razah mixtape download!
http://www.wutang-corp.com/news/article.php?id=752

Quote from: tempethegreat;307275
are wu tang clan is still exist?????:)



Of course Wu-Tang is still together....
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/51861129.gif)
WU-TANG IS FOREVER!! MUTHAFUCKA!!
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Post by: MochaNutz on February 19, 2007, 07:58:24 PM
is this new?  I don't really follow this

(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9229/00wisemenwisemenapproacft9.jpg)

01. Introducing (No Matter How) 03:55
02. New Year Banga 03:34
03. Illness 03:50
04. Associated (Feat GZA) 03:02
05. Mixture Of Muhammad 02:30
06. Iconoclasts 04:52
(Feat Killah Priest & Vast Aire)
07. Founder Of Pain 01:59
08. Blinded 03:37
09. Up There Beyond 05:18
10. Verbal Joust 03:42
11. Words From The Prodigal Sunn... 00:33
12. Goblins (Tablets) 04:02
(Feat Planet Asia & Prodigal Sunn)
13. Welcome Home (Feat Gooch & Altaire) 04:57
14. Honor's Promise 03:32
15. Wisemen Approaching 04:19

http://rapidshare.com/files/16695944/Wisemen-Wisemen_Approaching-2007-.rar
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Post by: maliciel on February 19, 2007, 08:36:38 PM
I just got back from seeing Jurassic 5 and Beastie Boys~ 8-)
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Post by: meowchi on February 21, 2007, 12:58:50 AM
lmao, dai that victory pv isn't the [jphip] version!
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Post by: MochaNutz on February 23, 2007, 01:19:06 AM
Hehe, i totally forgot about this.  

Mick Boogie Presents Little Brother - ...And Justus For All (Free Mixtape)

http://bp2.blogger.com/_hU1ib4ColmQ/RdGCPfzqgqI/AAAAAAAAAIA/h_ut-T4jBBA/s1600-h/lbmb+ajfa+front+LOWRES.jpg

01. Big Pooh - Intro (Poobie's Song)
02. Little Brother & Chaundon - Can't Stop Us (Produced by Young Cee)
03. Little Brother & Oddisee - Delusional (Produced by Oddisee)
04. Interlude - The Purpose Of Mixtapes
05. Little Brother & Skillz - Life of the Party (Remix) (Produced by Nottz)
06. Little Brother - Best Kept Secret (Feat. Legacy) (Produced by RJD2)
07. Interlude - Wack Freestyles
08. Little Brother - Do It To Death (Feat. Rhymefest & Supastition) (Produced by Focus)
09. Phonte & Von Pea - A Word From Our Sponsors (Produced by Khrysis)
10. Interlude - The Justus League Crew
11. Phonte - Last Day
12. Little Brother - Never Leave (Produced by The Kickdrums)
13. Interlude - Mick Boogie, The A&R
14. Big Pooh - Bring It On (Feat. Ray Cash)
15. Big Pooh, Bishop Lamont & Jozeemo - Without You
16. Interlude - Myspace Etiquette Part 1
17. Little Brother - The Pressure (Produced by Khrysis)
18. Little Brother & Joe Scudda - Fan Mail (Produced by Babu)
19. Interlude - Favorite Duos
20. Little Brother, Mos Def & Talib Kweli - Let It Go (Blackstar Version) (Produced by 9th Wonder)
21. Big Pooh & O-Dash - One Eleven
22. Interlude - Myspace Etiquette Part 2
23. Little Brother - Cross That Line (Remix) (Feat. Kardinal Offishall) (Produced by 9th Wonder)
24. Little Brother - Back At It (Khrysis Remix) (Feat. Cormega)
25. Little Brother - Rise And Fall (Feat. AZ) (Produced by J. Cardim and Phonte)
26. Little Brother - Grown Man (Feat. Talib Kweli) (Produced by Midi Mafia)
27. Little Brother - Outrolude

http://www.mydatabus.com/public/Jon_E/z/MickBoogie_LittleBrother_ANDJUSTUSFORALL.rar
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Post by: StreakInTheSky on February 23, 2007, 03:43:08 AM
Quote from: Maliciel;312460
I just got back from seeing Jurassic 5 and Beastie Boys~ 8-)


ooh nice. Did you actually find someone to go with you?

I think the only hip hop group I've seen live was Atmosphere...
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Post by: daigong on February 23, 2007, 04:18:50 AM
^ Props Mocha..I was wondering what that Wiseman ads were about. And Kardinal guesting on Little Brother, fucktastic.

Quote from: Maliciel;312460
I just got back from seeing Jurassic 5 and Beastie Boys~ 8-)

Pix or it never happened [/Mal]

Quote from: meowchi;313246
lmao, dai that victory pv isn't the [jphip] version!

WHOOPS! I guess I was too geeked up...time to apply a little MIB shit.

(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9700/whoisthisjm4.jpg)

I wonder what will happen with the Wu-Tang album, here's some Words from a Genius:
Words of wisdom from Wu-Tang's Genius
   

Nate Peterson
Vail CO, Colorado
February 22, 2007


 Rapper's delight
What: Genius/GZA of Wu-Tang clan

When: Saturday 10 p.m.

Where: 8150 in Vail Village

Information: Visit http://www.club8150.com
ASPEN - Genuis/GZA, the solemn sage of pioneering New York rap collective Wu-Tang Clan, doesn't write rhymes fast.

In fact, according to the Genius, certain phrases and storylines can remain in his head for years, gestating and gaining traction, before they end up on paper, then fully take form as complete songs.

"I can't cheat myself," said GZA (born Gary Grice), who was born in Brooklyn and is credited with forming what would become the Wu-Tang Clan with cousins Robert Diggs (RZA) and Russell Jones (Ol' Dirty Bastard). "I'm not a fast writer. I know people who can write a rhyme in 30 minutes. But 10 of their rhymes won't compare to one of mine."

It's a boast that most knowledgeable MCs wouldn't contest. As a lyricist and a storyteller, GZA remains revered in the ever-changing hip-hop universe, a master of his craft who - despite median commercial success as a solo artist - is esteemed by about anyone who has ever picked up a mic to fire off rhymes.

On the Clan's groundbreaking 1993 debut, "Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)," GZA's carefully-crafted stanzas and penetrating delivery made him stand out among the group's 10 collective voices. His 1995 solo album "Liquid Swords," which was produced by RZA and featured multiple guest spots from Clan members, is arguably the best Wu-Tang record ever made, and was named by The Source as one of its top 100 rap albums of all time.

GZA's lyrics on "Liquid Swords" cast listeners into a dark world full of shadowy characters - drug lords, assassins, and undercover agents among them - while a soundtrack of gritty, minimized beats spliced by RZA played in the background.

Track for track, the word play on the album is arguably unrivaled among other hip-hop records released in the last 12 years.

While he has released three albums since "Liquid Swords," GZA said audiences at his live shows connect with that album's material - and the early Wu-Tang tracks - more than anything else.

His most devoted fans appreciate all his material, namely songs off his two most recent efforts, "Legend of the Liquid Sword," and the DJ Muggs collaboration, "Grandmasters." But GZA said he doesn't pawn off those familiar with only "Liquid Swords" as listeners who haven't learned to grow with him.

"I embrace that forever," he said. "I always run into people that have connected with the music. It inspires me to meet people who love my writing and love my music. Sometimes they can put it in words and I can't."

As for the current state of hip-hop, GZA said he rarely listens to the radio, and isn't moved by most of the records he hears out in clubs. As an art form, hip-hop has become stale and saturated, and lacks the focus with which he approaches his music.

"With me, Dirty and RZA, it was always about having the flyest rhymes, critiquing word play, just vibing," he said. "Hip-hop now, there's no finesse, there's no originality. I don't go into the studio trying to make a club song. That's never on my mind, I don't write like that. I hear rapper's do interviews and they're like, yeah, we needed a club banger, or we needed this on the album.

"... Rappers are so one-dimensional now. They get a club beat and they figure the rhyme has to be about being in the club, too - a club rhyme. It's crazy. So now in the track you're in the club, you're buying the bar and you're VIP. You know what I'm saying? That's why my future plans are to write books and scripts and really, really take it there. That's the time and effort I put into writing a rhyme. I write them like novels or like they're screenplays. That's how I am with rhyming."

As for how he creates his rhymes, GZA said he finds inspiration all around him. He compares his creative process to doodling - "where, the pen is just flowing, or the pencil is just flowing and you don't know what you're drawing, it just becomes something," he said.

"The story comes to me," he adds. "I can be inspired by so many things: Music, people, books, anything."

Even just one off-hand phrase can lead to an idea. On his debut, GZA penned "Labels," a story rap that incorporated various record labels into the lyrics. He followed with similar concept songs on his later releases, including "Queen's Gambit" off "Grandmasters," a story rap about a strong, beautiful woman that wove the name of 31 NFL teams into the lyrics.

The world play is so deft, that on first listen most listeners wouldn't pick up the embedded theme.

Sample lyrics: I told her to stay strong, not to be ashamed/ You're a 10 I see, you just need to TITAN your game ... Her interesting background, but quite unusual/ A great force grip, but out of bounds for a musical/ She told me to call her, if I came to town/ I started TEXAN her, soon as my plane had touchdown

"Everything has to be written metaphorically," GZA said. "You almost have to have more than one meaning. Or even if it does have one meaning, there's many different ways to look at it. Like most things, I do that with songs."

"What's so messed up about hip-hop, as far as the lyrical part of it, there's so many things to talk about," he adds. "There's so much to talk about in life. But, you listen to records, and it's the same thing over and over and over and over."

An industry coup - like the one the GZA and the Wu-Tang Clan piloted in 1993 - may be on the horizon. The group has plans to record some time this year for it's first group album since 2001's "Iron Flag," although GZA said he hasn't heard exactly when and where that will take place.

The group, which last hit the road together for some shows in August and September, will be without founding member Ol' Dirty Bastard, who died from an accidental drug overdose in 2004.

The only member that isn't on board - yet -GZA said is Ghostface Killa, the group's most critically successful solo artist in recent years.

"This is something that's been talked about for years," he said "I think there may be a few issues with a few members that need to be straightened out or whatever. Not myself, per se, but there maybe some little things that need to be straightened out. It's just a matter of all of us getting together. We've been talking about doing another album and I think it's time. The fans want it and they're still waiting for it."
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Post by: maliciel on February 23, 2007, 07:18:13 PM
Quote from: modesta107;307185
the other day me and my friend were talking bout the best rap lines ever.

"Not knowing the ways'll get you capped like an NBA salary"

That line from Respiration is so great. But I love the whole song /o/

Pics:

You can see Chali 2na clearly. In the second pic you can see 7even (think it was him) all pissed off cus his mike died..again.
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"Just to clarify..yes, this is Mix Master Mike"
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Post by: daigong on March 01, 2007, 11:55:47 AM
GJ MAL!!! :thumbsup

Who's the band??

Some good news....FINALLY!! They're back together:

Rage, Wu-Tang Team For Three Summer Shows

Reprising their aborted, controversial 1997 tour pairing, Rage Against The Machine and the Wu-Tang Clan will play three shows together this summer.

The reunited acts will appear Aug. 11 and 18 at the Rock the Bells Festival in San Bernardino, Calif., and San Francisco, respectively, and are also on the bill for the event's East Coast debut, to be held July 28 at New York's Randalls Island.

"It's definitely our fans' dream billing," says Rock the Bells organizer Chang Weisberg. Aside from Rage and Wu-Tang, the rest of the lineup has yet to be announced.

Rage Against The Machine had previously asserted that its headlining set at the Coachella Valley Music & Arts Festival in late April would be a one-off. The group has been dormant since frontman Zack de la Rocha quit in 2000. Guitarist Tom Morello, who also plays with Audioslave, will be performing solo at South By Southwest, Bonnaroo and Coachella under the moniker the Nightwatchman. He will be playing additional solo dates in March and April and has invited Audioslave Fan Club members to attend these shows for free.

As for the Wu-Tang Clan, the group is finishing its first album since 2001, "8 Diagrams," for SRC Records. The pioneering hip-hop outfit played its last show with late member Ol' Dirty Bastard at the 2004 installment of Rock the Bells.

SOURCE: http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003550458
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: dclee on March 02, 2007, 07:03:34 AM
Nowadays the style of rap I'm most into by far is west coast 90s G-Funk back when Death Row was on top. So my favorite rap albums include The Chronic, Doggystyle, Regulate... G Funk era, Murder Was the Case soundtrack, Dogg Food, etc. Some east coast rap I like is mainly Wu Tang and affiliates. I haven't been keeping up with the latest music though.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: A1 on March 02, 2007, 12:41:16 PM
RATM and Wu...Best tour of the summer!
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Katri~ on March 02, 2007, 09:34:07 PM
Help me! xD I usually know what I listen to, but in my dance lessons (I go to hiphop dance lessons) there's this so cool song (hiphop DUH). I really need it. The chorus is from that old pirate song or wth. xDD Anyways, help me, please? I need it. :>
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on March 03, 2007, 08:48:43 AM
Quote from: Katri~;320902
The chorus is from that old pirate song or wth. xDD Anyways, help me, please? I need it. :>

:? I dunno. can u give a lyric or something lol. I'm not familiar with pirate songs lol. Rich Girl with Gwen Stefani and Eve maybe?

What's new in HiP HoP? Timbaland and Scott Storch dissing each other? Geez.

Cilvaringz' debut album ' I ' is coming soon. Lotsa goodies:

(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1067/ringzuc2.jpg)

Tracklist

01) Poison Ring Chamber [intro]
02) Wu-Tang Martial Expert feat. RZA
03) The Weeping Tiger feat. Chef Raekwon, Ghostface Killah & RZA
04) Sheherezad, My Beloved [The Greatest Love Story Ever Told]
05) "Death To America"
06) In The Name Of Allah feat. Method Man, Masta Killa, Killah Priest, RZA &
      Scientific Shabazz
07) Jewels feat. GZA/Genius
08) Brothers Ain't Brothers
09) Blazing Saddles feat. Killarmy
10) Caravanserai - Chapter I [skit] feat. Chef Raekwon
11) Damascus
12) Caravanserai - Chapter II [skit] feat. Chef Raekwon & Salah Edin
13) Two Missed Calls... [interlude] feat. Pharell Williams & Ne-Yo
14) Dart Tournament feat. Killa Sin & Blue Raspberry
15) The Saga
16) Forever Michael [Wacko Tablo]
17) Elephant Juice
18) Deaf, Dumb & Blind
19) Warriors & Poets... [skit]
20) Valentine Day Massacre feat. 9th Prince, 62nd Assassin, Scientific
      Shabazz & Blue Raspberry
21) Poison Ring Chamber [outro] feat. Method Man

Check this HOT SHIT:

Legend of the Wu-Tang: The Videos

(http://www.imagehost.ro/pict//2414071745e02a75c0a31.jpg)

DOWNLOAD
http://rapidshare.com/files/17876783/Legend.of.Wu-Tang.-.The.Videos.2006.DVDrip.XviD.RapX.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/17884258/Legend.of.Wu-Tang.-.The.Videos.2006.DVDrip.XviD.RapX.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/17922713/Legend.of.Wu-Tang.-.The.Videos.2006.DVDrip.XviD.RapX.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/17943211/Legend.of.Wu-Tang.-.The.Videos.2006.DVDrip.XviD.RapX.part4.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/17950662/Legend.of.Wu-Tang.-.The.Videos.2006.DVDrip.XviD.RapX.part5.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/17955513/Legend.of.Wu-Tang.-.The.Videos.2006.DVDrip.XviD.RapX.part6.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/17959585/Legend.of.Wu-Tang.-.The.Videos.2006.DVDrip.XviD.RapX.part7.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/17959628/Legend.of.Wu-Tang.-.The.Videos.2006.DVDrip.XviD.RapX.part8.rar
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Katri~ on March 03, 2007, 09:59:45 PM
Quote from: daigong;321233
:? I dunno. can u give a lyric or something lol. I'm not familiar with pirate songs lol. Rich Girl with Gwen Stefani and Eve maybe?



Noo. It has male singers or rappers or whatever. xD I dun have any lyrics. :/
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on March 09, 2007, 05:12:47 PM
R.I.P. B.I.G.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: A1 on March 09, 2007, 09:25:23 PM
Its been what? 10 years and they still ain't find out who killed Biggie Smalls. Its a damn shame.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on March 09, 2007, 10:39:39 PM
Quote from: Anghellic1;325783
Its been what? 10 years and they still ain't find out who killed Biggie Smalls. Its a damn shame.


Although wack, the Street Code is in effect.  But, no one wants to be a snitch or put themselves in danger... Which is probably why Tupac's, JMJ's, and Busta's Bodyguard killers are still out there.
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Katri~ on March 12, 2007, 09:33:30 PM
Oh hey the song I was looking for. It was Chamillionaire's True (although my dancing teacher said it's I'm true so I'm not sure) soo does anyone have it? :D
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: arun.yothin on March 12, 2007, 10:24:17 PM
Quote from: Katri~;327713
Oh hey the song I was looking for. It was Chamillionaire's True (although my dancing teacher said it's I'm true so I'm not sure) soo does anyone have it? :D

Here ya go
http://www.mediafire.com/?fdloyzrgtyz
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on March 16, 2007, 04:09:33 AM
It's not that new but it's a recent video from the Visionaries.

[yt]o7nZUIdxwPw[/yt]

It's actually sorta about the area I live in :lol:
Title: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: cool_kickin_dude on March 16, 2007, 01:54:04 PM
shmeless Wu-Tang plug here, but they were metioned on Family Guy last night. Peter even read the lyrics to "Bring Da Ruckus".

Peter: "I'm hardcore, I flip it like like porno flick bitches."XD

Sorry if it's wrong, I was too tired from basketball remembering the rest.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: A1 on April 08, 2007, 01:38:12 AM
Redman just did this track with Infect (Lo Key, Badluck J, GrewSum, T.O.N.E.-Z, Tha Wikid One, Conflikt, and Medula). You can find it here:

http://www.7thsealentertainment.com/INFECT/
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: num2son on April 08, 2007, 02:07:25 AM
Any get a chance to here the new Cilvaringz "I" album?
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on April 08, 2007, 11:28:36 PM
Soon, no leaks I've seen. It drops April 9th tho...I'm lovin the single where RZA guests "Martial Arts" or whatever.

Wu BE COMING THRU!!! Going to Seattle for some Fest. and UK dates too AND Luther College ?! WTF...PLEEEASE do some Canadian dates FUCK!

lmao, I'm hooked on Lumidee's new track with that "She's Like the Wind" hook
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on April 11, 2007, 04:38:38 PM
hear it is!! I got it off ISO hunt

(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2041/cilvaringzicoverea3.jpg)
(tracklist a few posts back)
DOWNLOAD HERE!
http://www.twitter.com/?d=QLYVX9TP

if ur gonna post this elsewhere, DON'T credit jphip.com aight?

album is aight...PRODUCTION, GUEST apperances is off da CHAIN. if this is a hint at what the new Wu-Tang album - FUCK YEAH BOYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Prolly the most interesting song is "Death To America" ... jacked for their acres and mules. The anti-bush tales on the allah track after.

esp. if num2son posts on wucorp boards, rap forum cats are nuts lol
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: aKaoNi on April 18, 2007, 04:18:07 PM
Guess I'll have to check that Cilvaringz out, although I actually bought the Killa Beez The Sting album back in the day and was disappointed in it. I didn't think it soo much when he said it but damn......... Nas was right, Hip Hop is dead. A damn lipgloss song???!? 'This is why I'm Hot, I'm hot cuz I am, you aint cuz you not'?!?? WTF is going on here?! and to make it worse they're both from NY not some down south ish? Just terrible........

Checkout NYOil though (http://www.myspace.com/nyoil), got a song called 'Ya'll Should All Get Lynched' it's got that shock value type of title to it like, naw what the hell's he talking bout, but the actual song is pretty good with the message he's giving, I call it a breath of fresh air in this watered down state of the industry.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: num2son on April 19, 2007, 08:09:47 PM

if ur gonna post this elsewhere, DON'T credit jphip.com aight?

esp. if num2son posts on wucorp boards, rap forum cats are nuts lol

 :lol:, I heard the album, not really feeling it.

I hope the wu does drop an album on 7/7/07.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: StreakInTheSky on April 19, 2007, 08:18:18 PM
Guess I'll have to check that Cilvaringz out, although I actually bought the Killa Beez The Sting album back in the day and was disappointed in it. I didn't think it soo much when he said it but damn......... Nas was right, Hip Hop is dead. A damn lipgloss song???!? 'This is why I'm Hot, I'm hot cuz I am, you aint cuz you not'?!?? WTF is going on here?! and to make it worse they're both from NY not some down south ish? Just terrible........


LOL that song is fucking hilarious XD I can't take shit like that seriously... that and that "BALLIIIIIIIIIN'!" song are just pure hilarity. And I think they're from NY too. I used to really like the NY hip-hop scene alot, but man... wtf is going on there.

Hip-hop isn't dead, it's just playing dead. There's still lots of good shit out there, just gotta know where to look.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: num2son on April 19, 2007, 08:41:28 PM

Hip-hop isn't dead, it's just playing dead. There's still lots of good shit out there, just gotta know where to look.

No doubt, there is nothing in the mainstream to get excited over.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on May 02, 2007, 06:14:40 AM
Snoop's getting banned everywhere lol
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6594/snoopdogg04tv6.jpg)


Kardi gonna spit hot FIYAHHHH this summer. Wonder if he's gonna perform with Akon at the Gwen Stefani shows in Canada. He hinted about it in February when he was in town for some shows.

KONVICT MUSIC (IT'S A SHAKE DOWN)

(http://www.supload.us/thumbs/default/Konvict-Music---Its-A-Shakedown-mid4043-large.jpg) (http://www.supload.us/free/Konvict-Music---Its-A-Shakedown-mid4043-large.jpg/view/)(http://www.supload.us/thumbs/default/Konvict-Music---Its-A-Shakedown-mid4043-back-large.jpg) (http://www.supload.us/free/Konvict-Music---Its-A-Shakedown-mid4043-back-large.jpg/view/)

Preview:
http://www.datpiff.com/DJ-Noodles-Konvict-Music---Its-A-Shakedown-mid4043.html#

DOWNLOAD
http://www.zshare.net/download/djnoodles-konvictmusic-itsashakedown-zip-0gp.html

01. It's A Shakedown - Akon & Red Cafe
02. Man Up! - Kardinal Offishall
03. Akon Speaks
04. The Best Of Both Worlds (Noodles Mix) - Akon & Biggie
05. Murderer - Red Cafe
06. Can I Get An Amen - Kardinal Offishall
07. It's Alright (Noodles Mix) - Red Cafe
08. When Kardinal Come - Kardinal Offishall
09. Get U Some - Red Cafe
10. Ice Cold - Red Cafe
11. Clinton Sparks Speaks
12. Salute - Kardinal Offishall ft. Busta Rhymes (Produced by Clinton Sparks)
13. I Wanna Fuck U (Noodles Mix) - Akon ft. Kardinal Offishall, Biggie
14. Akon Speaks
15. Buy U A Drink (Remix) - T-Pain ft. Kardinal Offishall
16. Let's Talk Money (Noodles Mix) - T-Pain ft. Slim Thug, Young Jeezy
17. Wildstyle - Red Cafe
18. Never Never (Remix) - Brick N Lace ft. Cham
19. Children Of The Ghetto - Red Cafe ft. Mr. Easy
20. By My Side - Trazz ft. Akon (Produced by DJ Noodles)
21. Don't Matter (Remix) - Akon ft. Red Cafe
Bonus Track: On The Block All Day (Noodles Mix) - Serius Jones ft. Akon

props to mn071882 for da linkage.

Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on May 03, 2007, 07:38:01 PM
New Camp Lo!  I heard 9th Wonder is producing for them too!  Another album to look out for this year.  2K7 is an exciting year in hiphop music =)


Quote
This is it. Camp Lo is making a return to the hip-hop game in Black Hollywood style July 24, as they return with their first album in five years, Black Hollywood.

The album, featuring a refreshed Sonny Cheeba and Geechi Suede, is produced entirely by Ski. “I feel like I got the same energy as Uptown Saturday night on Black Hollywood,” Ski said. “We’re about to introduce Camp Lo to a whole new generation of listeners who are going to be blown away."

"We’re giving the listeners something they don't know they are missing yet,” Sonny Cheeba told HipHopGame. “The fans that have been looking for that sound and can't find it, this is where it’s at.”

The lead single is “Black Hollywood” and will be released

Black Hollywood is being released on Good Hands Records, which is distributed through Traffic Entertainment.

“I know we’re in good hands with Good Hands,” Ski said. “It’s hard to find music people that have open minds to put out this kind of music. They believe in keeping good hip-hop alive.”

DJ Truth, CEO of Good Hands Records, is also excited about releasing Black Hollywood. “To be able to add a legendary group like Camp Lo is a huge thrill for the label,” DJ Truth told HipHopGame. “The fact that Ski produced the entire album adds to the thrill. The energy and swagger on this album is crazy.”

Good Hands Records is also releasing Kurupt Presents Tangled Thoughts’ Philly 2 Cali on May 22. Killah Priest’s The Offering is also dropping on Good Hands on August 21.

Camp Lo - Luchini
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRUG6bYr-RQ

Camp Lo - Black Nostaljack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USSyICRkrFM
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: cool_kickin_dude on May 03, 2007, 08:17:58 PM
anybody heard the mixtape called Purple Codeine? It has T.I. and a few other guests. I've been wanting to hear more of it.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on May 04, 2007, 01:15:46 AM
anybody heard the mixtape called Purple Codeine? It has T.I. and a few other guests. I've been wanting to hear more of it.

Purple Codeine 10 is the latest one i think.  I saw it on a few bt sites, but never bothered to get em.

anyone check the Sa-Ra - The Hollywood Recordings?  They're signed under Kanye's Good Music label.  Its a group of 3 guys.  its pretty good from what i'm hearing.  I heard its not really their official first album though.  Monch, Dilla, Kweli, Bilal Capone N Noreaga, and a bunch more are on it.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on May 10, 2007, 10:31:55 PM
^ sounds like a dope lineup. Guess Kanye be producing too. Their site has some samples and even Dre! Kanye! gave em props: http://www.srcpmusic.com/

(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7774/mastakillaih7.jpg)

Copped me some fuckin tix to Masta Killa's show next week! Hope he don't cancel like Deck :/
(http://img159.imagevenue.com/loc795/th_95234_DSC02071_122_795lo.JPG) (http://img159.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=95234_DSC02071_122_795lo.JPG)


He's also hitting Toronto and Calgary, more info here:
http://www.hiphopcanada.com/_site/community/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=39804&sid=e2bd650b5de187b238e050852746b67c
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: Roary on May 15, 2007, 09:36:29 AM
Lately I've listened to old school basketball rap. With the YEEEEWWS and YOOOOOWS. The biggest guys always in the back chanting.
Like Naughty by nature. And I just fell in love with the backgrounds of kriss kross's jump.

Peace... ohh and Wu-tang released 208 on their website for free. Feel free to check them out and download. I know I did :D
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: MochaNutz on May 16, 2007, 04:11:42 AM
yeah, masta killa is here in t.o, like this week or next, or past already?

----

For those who haven't heard the common tracks yet (finding forever - july 10)

http://www.zshare.net/audio/common_-_the_people_clean-mp3.html
http://www.zshare.net/audio/common-the_game_feat-_dj_premier-mp3-t09.html

Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on May 16, 2007, 05:21:50 AM
^ yep. in the link above:

[Sunday May 20th, 2007 -> TORONTO @ El Mocambo]

> online @ www.ticketweb.ca

Play deRecord - 357a Yonge Street, (Toronto) 416-586-0380
Rotate This! - 620 Queen St. W. (Toronto) 416-504-8447
Bomb Shelter – 166A Spadina (Toronto) (416) 203-6676
Soundscapes - 572 College St (Toronto) 416.537.1620
Nappy’s - 23 Dundas E (Mississauga) 905.949.6787
Nappy’s - 83 Kennedy Rd S (Brampton) 905.453.3037
Nappy’s- 7381 Kennedy Rd ( Markham) 905.948.0884
Hustler Snowboards - 111 Kerr St. ( Oakville ) 905.844.1688
Dr.Disc - 20 Wilson St (Hamilton) 905-523-1010

You can prolly get em at the door. I dunno if there's gonna be a huge crowd Friday as compared to say Ice Cube, who's hitting a smaller venue at WEM


SHIT! New Common, fuckin nice.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: daigong on May 22, 2007, 06:36:25 AM
Went to the local club and expected Masta Killa but they told us at the door he had to resked SO Hell Razah of Sunz of Man stepped in lol

We got local MC's and DJs for a good 2-3 hours - DOPE, spewing the politix of popular night clubs being racist haha
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/05-19-07_0004.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/05-19-07_0016.jpg)

Then Hell Razah shows up, spewed his set but --- I was already fuckin wasted to even notice wiggaz acting a fool.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/05-19-07_0136.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/05-19-07_0138.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/05-19-07_0140.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/05-19-07_0144.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/05-19-07_0202.jpg)

Cop some cell phone video, works on quicktime:
Hell Razah_etown_05-19-07 DOWNLOAD
http://www.mediafire.com/?bqxtpyu97z1

NOT bad. RENAISSANCE!! BURIED ALIVE!!! WE KEPT YELLING as he was pimpin his new solo joint (I posted links somewhere in this thread). Met him afterwards and pimped JPHiP.com and he told me to email him lol "Double R @ yahoo"

More Hell Razah: http://myspace.com/razahrubiez

The crowd was sparse, it's pretty shit that the local crowd don't know Sunz of Man. Hopefully Masta Killa WILL show up in 2 months as promised.


Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: num2son on May 23, 2007, 01:55:29 AM
Rza and his Roland MV-8000
[youtube=425,350]C0R7B12X8dY[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM 2007 | DL Puffy Victory last pg)
Post by: hide321 on May 23, 2007, 04:03:09 AM
Went to the local club and expected Masta Killa but they told us at the door he had to resked SO Hell Razah of Sunz of Man stepped in lol

We got local MC's and DJs for a good 2-3 hours - DOPE, spewing the politix of popular night clubs being racist haha
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/05-19-07_0004.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/05-19-07_0016.jpg)

Then Hell Razah shows up, spewed his set but --- I was already fuckin wasted to even notice wiggaz acting a fool.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/05-19-07_0136.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/05-19-07_0138.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/05-19-07_0140.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/05-19-07_0144.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/05-19-07_0202.jpg)

Cop some cell phone video, works on quicktime:
Hell Razah_etown_05-19-07 DOWNLOAD
http://www.mediafire.com/?bqxtpyu97z1

NOT bad. RENAISSANCE!! BURIED ALIVE!!! WE KEPT YELLING as he was pimpin his new solo joint (I posted links somewhere in this thread). Met him afterwards and pimped JPHiP.com and he told me to email him lol "Double R @ yahoo"

More Hell Razah: http://myspace.com/razahrubiez

The crowd was sparse, it's pretty shit that the local crowd don't know Sunz of Man. Hopefully Masta Killa WILL show up in 2 months as promised.




Dope, Hell Razah is ill.  His latest album very VERY well put together (and, so far, my 2nd favorite album of this year).  But, I think its weird how they didnt give refunds to those who paid to see Masta Killa.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM "8 DIAGRAM" 07.07.07)
Post by: daigong on May 24, 2007, 05:37:03 AM
^ Oh they promised 20 dollars off (ticket cost 30) when he rebooks in 2 mths.

Yeah...the local MC's were dope...but fuckin Hell Razah just split they wigs!!! Makes me so jealous of guys near the Rock The Bells locales or wherever Wu-Tang is gonna show up. GZA doing the ENTIRE Liquid Swords album from Track 1 to Track 13 --- IF WU is coming to a theater near YOU! Best check em out SON!

Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM "8 DIAGRAM" 07.07.07)
Post by: hide321 on May 25, 2007, 12:00:28 PM
GZA doing the ENTIRE Liquid Swords album from Track 1 to Track 13
:o

*in a Kool Keith voice* I don't believe you! O0
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM "8 DIAGRAMS" 07.07.07)
Post by: daigong on May 27, 2007, 08:24:16 AM
Right here dude.
http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/11554


Quote
Gza Set To Perform "Liquid Swords" In Its Entirety
Monday - May 7, 2007 by Janeé Bolden

The Wu-Tang Clan's GZA is scheduled to perform his critically acclaimed debut Liquid Swords in its entirety at the Pitchfork Music Festival in July.

Released in 1995, Liquid Swords featured appearances from all the members of the Wu-Tang which include the RZA, Raekwon, Ghostface, Method Man, U-God, Masta Killa, Inspectah Deck and the late Ol' Dirty Bastard. The album is considered by fans to be one of the best solo albums released by any member of the New York rap collective.

GZA's performance will take place in Chicago's UnionPark on July 13. It has not been confirmed if any Wu members will take the stage with him. Tickets for the event are currently available via ticketweb.com.

As SOHH previously reported, GZA and his Wu-Tang brethren are currently working on their fifth group album titled 8 Diagrams. The group will also be sharing the stage with Public Enemy and Rage Against The Machine at this year's Rock The Bells North American festival series.


If I could go to Chicago-man, I would NOW :jerk:

"I stepped up to a jet black kid, started speakin' SPANISH yo he wasn't from Panama asked him how he got so dark the n**** said SUNTANAMA!"
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM "8 DIAGRAMS" 07.07.07)
Post by: MochaNutz on June 02, 2007, 08:39:12 PM
Pharoahe Fucking Monch Desire is ripped!

edit: apparently its the advance.

----

for those who wanna hear a radio rip of Kanye West - Stronger

http://www.zshare.net/audio/21101298a8ec30/
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM "8 DIAGRAMS" 07.07.07)
Post by: MochaNutz on June 03, 2007, 11:39:12 PM
Ghostface.Killah.of.Wu-Tang.Clan-Live.In.NYC.DVDRiP.XViD

(http://bp0.blogger.com/_s-DWJb2TeEs/RmK7LQm7NGI/AAAAAAAACbw/63DDiu-nJnE/s400/ghostface.jpg)

(http://bp0.blogger.com/_s-DWJb2TeEs/RmK7LQm7NHI/AAAAAAAACb4/dPkgKlugDCE/s400/ghostfaceinfo.jpg)

(http://bp1.blogger.com/_s-DWJb2TeEs/RmK7Lgm7NII/AAAAAAAACcA/LW07MJMlD50/s400/ghostfacetrack.jpg)

Download
http://lix.in/6d1c14

cred=bossplayer
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM "8 DIAGRAMS" 07.07.07)
Post by: MochaNutz on June 04, 2007, 05:39:52 PM
Talib Kweli - Ear Drum Advance

http://rs47.rapidshare.com/files/35202301/T_K-Ear_Drum-Advance-2007-FTD.zip
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM "8 DIAGRAMS" 07.07.07)
Post by: Masa on June 17, 2007, 09:20:04 AM
Can rap regain its crown?

Not long ago, rap dominated album sales charts. Now, the music that has been a driving creative and commercial force in American culture is struggling to get its swagger back. The music industry is suffering across-the-board drops in CD sales, but rap is in a steeper slide: This year, rap sales are down 33% from 2006, twice the decline for the industry overall, according to Nielsen SoundScan. Five years ago, Eminem's album The Eminem Show was atop the Billboard chart, on its way to becoming the runaway best-selling album that year, with 7.6 million copies. Since then, no rap album has sold as well.

Established rap stars no longer are sure things in sales. During the past nine months, Jay-Z, Ludacris, Snoop Dogg, Diddy and Nas released albums, but only those by Jay-Z and Ludacris have sold at least 1 million copies in the USA, and only Diddy is still on the charts. Rap's decline can be traced to a range of factors, including marketing strategies that have de-emphasized album sales in favor of selling less-lucrative single songs and short versions of those singles as ring tones for cellphones. But more important to the industry, there are signs that many music-buying Americans — particularly the young, largely white audience that can make a difference between modest and blockbuster sales — are tiring of rappers' emphasis on "gangsta" attitudes, explicit lyrics and tales of street life and conspicuous consumption.

Within the rap industry, there's a growing debate about whether years of rampant commercialism — Snoop Dogg now endorses Pony sneakers; 50 Cent peddles grape-flavored vitamin water — have drained credibility and creativity out of a once-vibrant genre of music. And there's concern that rap, also known as hip-hop, has reached an evolutionary plateau: After more than a quarter-century on the charts, it's no longer the radical newcomer.

Rap pioneer KRS-One, who just released Hip Hop Lives with fellow legend Marley Marl, offers a blunt explanation. "The music is garbage," he says. "What has happened over the past few years is that we have traded art for money, simple and plain, and the public is not stupid."

Chuck Creekmur, co-founder of hip-hop news website Allhiphop.com, says rap once was known for creative storytelling and clever rhymes, but now is being undermined by a lack of both. "A lot of these albums now are looking to duplicate the success" of whatever is hot at the moment, he says. "There is a lack of variety."

An industry force no more

Whatever's causing consumers to tune out, it's clear that rap no longer dominates the music industry. In 2006, rap sold 59.1 million albums, down 21% from 2005 and 27% from 2004. Sales are trailing those for country albums (75 million) and heavy metal (61.6 million) — genres that rap formerly overshadowed.In 2006, for the first time in five years, no rap albums were among the year's 10 biggest sellers, a list led by the soundtrack to Disney's High School Musical, which sold 3.7 million copies. Compare that with 2003, when 50 Cent's Get Rich or Die Tryin' ranked No. 1 with 6.5 million copies.

This year's top-selling albums thus far are by American Idol rocker Chris Daughtry's band and jazz chanteuse Norah Jones. The rap industry is pinning hopes on 50 Cent's Curtis, due Sept. 4, and Kanye West's Graduation Day, expected in late August, as well as releases by Eminem and Dr. Dre that could arrive before the end of the year. But those albums may not be enough to salvage the sales numbers for this year, and it's unclear whether 50 Cent or Eminem can match their past sales.

A genre is born

Hip-hop was born out of DJ-hosted block parties in the Bronx, N.Y., in the early 1970s and evolved with emcees "rapping" over the beats the DJs played. The genre hit the Top 40 with the Sugar Hill Gang's Rapper's Delight in 1979. Rap soon became, as Public Enemy's Chuck D described it, "the CNN of black culture," encompassing everything from party tales to political commentaries, especially from the view of poor and disaffected urban youths. Rap found an audience not only in cities but in mostly white suburbs, as well.

By the 1990s, a harder-edged version of rap that glorified gang life began to dominate music and influence youth culture. Its songs and videos typically depict violence and drug dealers awash in diamonds and platinum jewelry, champagne and scantily clad women. Rap became a multibillion-dollar-a-year global industry, influencing fashion, lifestyles and language while selling everything from SUVs to personal computers. Rap's declining sales haven't escaped the attention of its kingpins. Declaring that hip-hop needed saving, Jay-Z ended a three-year retirement in November with his CD Kingdom Come, in which he essentially cast himself as Superman trying to save hip-hop.

A month later, Nas decried rap's lack of originality on his disc Hip Hop Is Dead: "Everybody sound the same, commercialize the game / Reminiscin' when it wasn't all business / They forgot where it started / So we all gather here for the dearly departed." Rap may not be dead, but it's significantly weakened, in part by its own doing, music analysts say. The industry's longtime strategy of pushing singles to sell albums has backfired in the digital age, says Felicia Palmer, president of 4Control Media and founder of the hip-hop news website SOHH.com. Digital sales have outstripped CD sales, but not yet to a degree that compensates for the price difference between a 99-cent download and a $19.99 CD.

A just-released survey by the website found 82% of nearly 700 respondents are purchasing fewer albums than in previous years, and 67% acknowledge that they have illicitly downloaded albums rather than pay for them. One reason: 69% say they're "not inspired by many albums." "People have gotten smart and know that (record companies) usually put out the two best singles, and the rest of the album is usually garbage," Palmer says. Labels need to do more to help artists build their fan bases with promotional tours, which help consumers buy into the performer and not just a song, says Michael "Blue" Williams, who manages Outkast and other urban acts.

"People like hot music, but we are still not making artists who matter across the board," Williams says. "So while the labels are screaming that the sky is falling, they are trapped in their own vicious cycle of having to chase each single." Promoting singles means getting favorable airplay, and that's more difficult now that hip-hop isn't the "only contemporary music that matters," as it was just a few years ago, says Sean Ross of Edison Media Research. "Three years ago, you wouldn't have wanted to be a Top 40 station playing Bright Lights by (pop/rockers) Matchbox Twenty while your competitor was playing Get Low by (rapper) Lil Jon," Ross says. "Now, Top 40 has Daughtry and Gwen Stefani, as well as a lot of quasi hip-hop from artists like Fergie and the Pussycat Dolls that, for some listeners, fill the same need as the real thing." The real thing may no longer be real enough. Glenn Peoples, founder and editor of music industry blog Coolfer.com, says: "A lot of people who used to listen to rap are now listening to rock. Rock is really strong right now."

'The public has made a choice'

Part of hip-hop's attraction has been the assumed authenticity of its lyrics and artists, but now, many younger listeners "believe that so much of what the mainstream (rap) industry does is orchestrated," says Bakari Kitwana, author of the books The Hip Hop Generation and Why White Kids Love Hip Hop. "I don't think they have a lot of confidence in the music the industry is producing." For years, increasing sales of rap albums effectively muted protests about some songs' promotion of misogyny, racism and violence. Now, dwindling receipts and fading interest in rap have provided what some in the industry see as an opportunity to rethink content.

"The public has made a choice," KRS-One says. "They're saying, 'We do not want the nonsense that we see and hear on radio, and we are not putting our money there.' Rap music is being boycotted by the American public because of the images that we are putting forward." The rising angst about rap lyrics was spotlighted this spring during the fallout over radio talk-show host Don Imus' smearing of the Rutgers University women's basketball team. Imus called team members "hos," then later noted in his defense that the word is commonly used in rap songs to describe women.

Soon after, hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons called a meeting of music industry executives. His Hip-Hop Summit Action Network later recommended that the rap industry voluntarily delete or bleep out offensive terms for broadcast. Such efforts have drawn mixed reactions from rappers. Master P, who built his multimillion-dollar No Limit Records empire on gangsta rap in the '90s, announced plans to start a new label, Take A Stand Records, with his son Romeo. He says he has been part of the problem and now wants to be part of the solution with clean, positive music. That idea was derided by 50 Cent, who said he has no intention of cleaning up his lyrics. "Music is a mirror, and hip-hop is a reflection of the environment we grew up in," he said at a news conference. "If I ask you to paint a picture of the American flag and not use the color red, you're going to have a difficult time."

A new business model

Content questions aside, rap faces the same challenge that has alarmed much of the music industry: how to adapt to the digital revolution. "What we have to do is figure out what the new music business is," says Kevin Liles, executive vice president of Warner Music Group, home to artists such as DJ Quik, Lil Scrappy and E-40. "There was a time when an artist like a Jay-Z or DMX or 50 Cent would sell 4 million or 5 million CDs. But there's a new climate. Artists like Young Jeezy might sell 2 million albums, but 6 million ring tones." Recent sales by rap star Mims reflect the problems facing the industry. His single This Is Why I'm Hot has done well this year, selling 634,000 downloads and 1.9 million ring tones, the 2007 leader in ring tones so far. But the album that contains This Is Why I'm Hot hasn't been so hot, selling only 231,000 copies. Music Is My Savior is No. 100 on Billboard's albums chart 11 weeks after its release.

Rap's early stars, from Grandmaster Flash to Public Enemy and LL Cool J, "touched on humor, politics, ghetto life and realities they faced," says music consultant Tom Vickers. "Rap has gradually degenerated from an art form into a ring tone. It's a hip catchphrase or a musical riff with a short shelf life. It has a novelty element that captures the listener's imagination, but it's not a song. It won't build a career. That's why we're seeing this backlash." To rebound, he says, "rap has to look at the bigger issues confronting society. There's only so much bling the public can take." The upside for rap, Kitwana says, is that so much of it "remains off the mainstream radar. You never know when hip-hop is going to reinvent itself, or when something operating out on the fringe is going to emerge and become the next new thing."

http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2007-06-14-rap-decline_N.htm

Pharoahe Fucking Monch Desire is ripped!

Talib Kweli - Ear Drum Advance
Dopeness, I'm feeling both albums and I wouldn't be surprised if they both ended up being in my top5 albums of the year list  :yep:
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: StreakInTheSky on June 18, 2007, 10:59:00 AM
I could really care less if rap/hip-hop gets better sales, as long as the mc's and dj's are making good shit. Most of my favorite hip-hop wasn't even on the top of the charts, unless they were from back in the day. lol

I think this really says it all.

Quote
Rap's early stars, from Grandmaster Flash to Public Enemy and LL Cool J, "touched on humor, politics, ghetto life and realities they faced," says music consultant Tom Vickers. "Rap has gradually degenerated from an art form into a ring tone. It's a hip catchphrase or a musical riff with a short shelf life. It has a novelty element that captures the listener's imagination, but it's not a song. It won't build a career. That's why we're seeing this backlash." To rebound, he says, "rap has to look at the bigger issues confronting society. There's only so much bling the public can take." The upside for rap, Kitwana says, is that so much of it "remains off the mainstream radar. You never know when hip-hop is going to reinvent itself, or when something operating out on the fringe is going to emerge and become the next new thing."

Most popular mainstreem hip-hop is fucking club shit and stupid songs with stupid little lines that get stuck in your head like "this is why I'm hot" and "walk it out". And even if they are not, they are mostly just re-used beats and loops, with lyrics that we've all heard before.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Rina the Robot on June 20, 2007, 11:19:55 AM
I'm a huge fan of hip hop, so I figure I'll share 2 albums I'm really into as an introduction post here.

1.) The World is Ours - Ill Poetic

I can't even find the words to describe how much I love this album, it's really original! If you don't download this, you are seriously missing out.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/tzvx84

2.) Def vs. Doom - MF Doom and Mos Def

Another album I love! I'm a huge fan of MF Doom and Mos Def, so this is a must have for fans.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ysea2f

Enjoy and feel free to share your thoughts about them
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on June 30, 2007, 05:52:07 PM
^ You've got excellent taste there Sabrina. There are some underground Kats who have good production, but flow is kinda weak. I like me some Ice Cube, Ghostface, Chuck D MC's.

Rap has been dead since 2Pac and Biggie got killed...and cat in the hat, Dr. Seuss MF'ers like Puffy  dominated the charts. The whole genre is dominated with over-produced beats by the lieks of Timbaland and Neptunes. I'm still waiting for a BOMB SQUAD type production that did classic Public Enemy albums. Dope beats, killer MC's.

Wu-Tang Clan is touring around the world....who's lucky enough to go to a show? I think their album is being delayed till September -_-

EUROPE

06/28/2007 05:00 PM - ITALY at STADIO FRIULI, Udine
06/29/2007 05:00 PM - FRANCE at EUROCKEENES, Belfort
06/30/2007 05:00 PM - SPAIN at ZARAGOZA CIUDAD, Zaragoza
07/01/2007 05:00 PM - ROMANIA at BESTIVAL, Bucharest
07/03/2007 05:00 PM - GERMANY at STADTHALLE, Offenbach
07/04/2007 05:00 PM - FRANCE at ZENITH, Paris
07/05/2007 05:00 PM - UK at HAMMERSMITH APOLLO, London
07/06/2007 05:00 PM - UK at APOLLO, Manchester
07/07/2007 05:00 PM - IRELAND at OXEGEN FEST, Punchestown
07/08/2007 05:00 PM - UK/SCOTLAND at T IN THE PARK, Kinross
07/10/2007 05:00 PM - GERMANY at COLUMBIAHALLE, Berlin
07/11/2007 05:00 PM - GERMANY at PALLADIUM, Cologne
07/12/2007 05:00 PM - BELGIUM at FESTIVAL, Dour
07/13/2007 05:00 PM - NETHERLANDS at PARADISO, Amsterdam
07/15/2007 05:00 PM - SERBIA at EXIT FEST, Novi Sad
07/17/2007 05:00 PM - CZECH REPUBLIC at T-MOBILE ARENA, Prague
07/18/2007 05:00 PM - SWITZERLAND at FESTIVAL, Montreux
07/19/2007 05:00 PM - POLAND at STODOLA, Warsaw
07/20/2007 05:00 PM - SLOVAKIA at TRENCIN AIRPORT, Trencin
07/21/2007 05:00 PM - GERMANY at MTV HIP HOP OPEN, Stuttgart


UNITED STATES

08/05/2007 8:00 PM - V FEST - Baltimore, Maryland

Rock the Bells North American Festival Series

Thu 7/26 Mansfield, MA Tweeter Center
*Sat 7/28 New York, NY Randall's Island
*Sun 7/29 New York, NY Randall's Island
Thu 8/2 Atlanta, GA Hi-Fi Buys Amphitheatre
Fri 8/3 Charlotte, NC Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre
Sat 8/4 Miami, FL Bayfront Park Amphitheatre
Tue 8/7 Dallas, TX Smirnoff Music Center
Wed 8/8 Houston, TX Reliant Park
*Sat 8/11 San Bernardino, CA Hyundai Pavilion at Glen Helen
Sun 8/12 San Diego, CA Coors Amphitheatre (parking lot)
*Sat 8/18 San Francisco, CA McCovey Cove (parking lot)
Tue 8/21 Salt Lake City, UT TBD
Wed 8/22 Denver, CO Red Rocks Amphitheatre
Sat 8/25 Minneapolis, MN TBD
Sun 8/26 Chicago, IL Charter One Pavilion
Wed 8/29 Detroit, MI DTE Energy Music Theatre
Thu 8/30 Toronto, Ontario TBD MOCHA!

* denotes festival dates with Rage Against the Machine.

09/03/2007 08:00 PM - BUMBER SHOOT FESTIVAL, Seattle, Virginia


One of the few artists that have flipped the script of MCing, producing is Kardinal Offishall. According to the Much Music Video Awards, his "Not For Sale" album will be dropping in the Winter with "Graveyard Shift" feat. Akon leading the way.

MIX TAPE DROPPING NOW? I gotta find the torrent of this soon. Sorry Kardi XD
(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3779/mca3544d6f38696bb0a223cke8.jpg)
http://youtube.com/kardinaloffishall416

Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: maliciel on July 03, 2007, 11:19:45 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=36Xt-XeWnHM

Not rap, but best video ever~!
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on July 05, 2007, 06:15:35 PM
Daigong, you can get the mixtape free on his myspace page =)
here's the link

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ssm87l
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on July 19, 2007, 06:23:36 PM
Daigong, you can get the mixtape free on his myspace page =)
here's the link

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ssm87l

Props Mocha!! If there's one MC out there, Kardi is the one that can bring HiP HoP back. That's what I been stressing. HiP HoP is anything you want it to be, just don't be rapping the same old song.

I'm digging all the freestyling over CLASSIC joints. TOTALLY FRESH. He's battling like this was "Amerikkka's Most wanted" or "It Takes a  a nation of millions to hold us back" daze. Dunno bout Akon rapping tho. 'Graveyard shift' is so-so. and lawl, Remy Ma got arrested. Hope she ain't on 'Not for Sale' (http://img182.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=20542_remy_123_32lo.jpg) album as I heard.


FUCKTASTIC. Went to Ice Cube con last Friday. Homie may be making comedies and family movies, one of FORBES top 10 richest rappers....but when it comes down to a mic and 2 turntables. He's one of the Top 5 MC's of all time. LEGENDARY ACTION:

(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8680/0713072345ca7.jpg)

Pretty tight set. Actual 75 min plus of straight up classics "Wicked" "Check yo'self"  and N.W.A. bits ...some from his new disc like "Go to church" ... WC was also there and thank god there wasn't previews from his new album dropping August 14. He just did some Westside Connection shit like "Bow Down"

opening..."Natural Born Killaz"
[youtube=425,350]ehulstcXRAY[/youtube]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ehulstcXRAY

[youtube=425,350]9pYZbPIQzY0[/youtube]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9pYZbPIQzY0

"Gangsta rap made me do it"
[youtube=425,350]C3wGSbWiZTU[/youtube]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=C3wGSbWiZTU

DOPE show. I'm glad I didn't go to the big coliseum show with Snoop, and opted to go to this "intimate" club show. That fuckin means being trapped against sweaty wiggaz, bitches trying to rub against ur dick. fools spilling drinks on ya, getting into fights with security. Overall, Ice Cube STILL delivers.

I think I'm a go peep his cousin's show this Saturday. :pimp:
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on July 20, 2007, 05:31:14 PM
FINDING FOREVER IS RIPPED!  But yo, i spoiled Be last time i downloaded it, so i'm waiting for FF this time!


Blah, the image isn't showing
but here's Camp Lo - Black Hollywood
http://sharebee.com/380ad573

edit: boo, apparently this isn't the official album for Camp Lo, cuz half the tracks are on the fort green mixtape.  Ah well, still worth a listen.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: StreakInTheSky on July 24, 2007, 03:22:09 AM
^thanks for that. I'm a bit disappointed though, I wasn't really feelin most of the beats. Black Hollywood was the only track I was really feelin. Hopefully I'll like the actual album more as their rhymes aren't bad.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=36Xt-XeWnHM

Not rap, but best video ever~!

Concerning that, I was thinking, maybe the thread should be changed to "The Official Hip-Hop Thread" :P As rap is really only a tiny part of what hip-hop is but gets confused by many that that's all it is.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on July 30, 2007, 07:45:38 AM
^ so where are we gonna put the B-Boy thread? and the Turntable-izm thread? :P

Finally getting the chance to see real rap acts, so I thought I'd write more organized reviews...so here we have Ice Cube's cousin:

The Place: Starlite Rooma, Edm, AB, CANADA
The Date: Saturday, July 21, 2007
The Time: 12:30 - 2:20 am
The Show: Del Tha Funkee Homosapien with guests

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/07-22-07_0140.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/07-22-07_0143.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/07-22-07_0153.jpg)

Went to the Del show last Saturday nite. They was fashionably late - car troubles, the computer geeks and skate nerds were up in arms, ready to leave and I was like "Chill, it's a rap show."

[youtube=425,350]9r64-RVw6Vs[/youtube]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9r64-RVw6Vs

Finally Bukue One appeared on the stage around 12:30, Dj Zac Hendrix set up his wheels of steel and the show went off with a BANG! Reggae hits, freestyling. The skateboard B was aight:

An hour later, the crowd was warmed up...in came Del with A-Plus. It was 30 plus outside and barely any AC inside, and I had been chugging Red Rain all nite. Mistadobalina, Mr Bombay, If you must,

[youtube=425,350]SVQ68kEfvEY[/youtube]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SVQ68kEfvEY

His flow was on target, spitting Hieroglyphics classics. Newer joints like Deltron 3030 like "Virus" Towards the end, he did songs from his Gorillaz collabo. And did some sneak peaks at his upcoming 'Eleventh Hour' disc.

[youtube=425,350]N6yGfw_vH3Y[/youtube]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=N6yGfw_vH3Y

Glad I didn't miss out. World needs more MC's like Del.

Upgrade your grey matter, because one day it may matter
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: StreakInTheSky on July 30, 2007, 08:26:56 AM
^ so where are we gonna put the B-Boy thread? and the Turntable-izm thread? :P



There's a b-boy thread? o_O :lol:


Nice, Del tha Funkee Homosapien
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on August 03, 2007, 01:02:20 AM
Have you seen this already?

Wu-Tang Clan - 8 Diagrams
Some videos with RZA, GZA, Deck, U-God, Meth and Rae.  Talks about Wu-Tang, coming together, Europeans, ODB, Ghostface, and why its called 8 Diagrams.


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2nuen_chunk1_music

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2nufl_chunky2_family
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: num2son on August 07, 2007, 04:10:28 PM
Have you seen this already?

Wu-Tang Clan - 8 Diagrams
Some videos with RZA, GZA, Deck, U-God, Meth and Rae.  Talks about Wu-Tang, coming together, Europeans, ODB, Ghostface, and why its called 8 Diagrams.


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2nuen_chunk1_music

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2nufl_chunky2_family
Thanks
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on August 09, 2007, 03:04:22 AM
So, i bought the MM... FOOD reissue, for the DVD, Sticker, Poster, scratch n sniff sticker, and to Hear the Kookies Remix.  I guess i'm a real fan when you buy something 2ice, since i have the original issue.

I haven't seen the dvd yet, but its an hour of the live MM... Food Drive Tour, performances, and behind the scenes.

Sticker, I liked the sticker that came with the first issue cd better.  Its smaller, like half the size, but you can see your reflection in the lettering instead of the white writing on the first one.

Poster, I like the poster I got with the first one... its not even on a glossy paper. and its like, black and white (with orange).

The scratch n sniff sticker/wrapper smells like Kookies =)  pretty cool.

The cd is the same except for the Kookies re-edit.  I personally like the original Sesame Street Sample.  I think it woulda sounded better if he used the new more.  Like 95% of it is just the bassline, with the same drums from the original Kookies.  He plays the full sample with the higher sounding instruments for like 2 bars in the whole song; 1 bar in the middle, and 1 in the end...  I forgot what sample it is, but its a sick sample.  I don't think its on special herbs, but i've heard it before somewhere else, i think.   Overall though, i feel more icky listening to version on this cd, unlike the original where I felt like I was on a mission to "eat Kookies!"

Well, not counting the DVD yet, i think this re-issue < the original print.  I got the MM... More Food cd with the first one I got, but there was only like 1 song i liked on it.  The CD is still sick though, if you haven't gotten it the first time.  I still think the fans want an Operation Doomsday Re-issue instead.  I know i want it.  I don't wanna pay a ridiculous amount on ebay.

edit:

just watched the dvd.  Quality wasn't dvd quality, but still all good.  They showed him going to different cities with the MM Food Drive Tour.  Did a bunch of songs from Mm Food, Madvillain, and Operation Doomsday.  Him wearing the Mask and Glasses is too funny.  Only thing is it was old material from 2005, because they were talking about how Mm Food just got released.

It was nice to see MF Grimm in the end =)

Anyways, at the end of the dvd, DOOM says he's got new shit!  I think we're all waiting for it.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: A1 on August 11, 2007, 08:32:53 PM
I'm not sure if anybody put this up yet about what Fiddy said.


If Kanye West sells more records than me on September 11, I'll no longer [perform] music. (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2007/08/10/2007-08-10_fitty_places_big_bet_on_the_record.html)

Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: StreakInTheSky on August 12, 2007, 08:41:32 AM
I want Kanye to beat him just so I can stop hearing his songs :lol: But I don't think it's likely as 50 seems way more popular.

Kanye >>> 50 cent though
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: cool_kickin_dude on August 14, 2007, 05:40:04 PM
Guess what guys..I found a MASSIVE mixtape site!!

www.datpiff.com

It's got some great mixtapes. I bet they're some great Wu-Tang stuff in there as well. Check it out, guys!
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: cool_kickin_dude on August 20, 2007, 06:34:20 PM
sorry to double-post again..but WU-TANG plug!!

I was in a Big Lots yesterday(department store with groceries) and found a bag of chips(forgot the name of it) which had rap stars on the bag, and...
one of the bags had DIRT McGIRT!!!

Wicked, huh?
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: aKaoNi on August 21, 2007, 03:48:42 PM
^ LoL! That's good stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on August 31, 2007, 02:44:14 AM
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/415u3Sm79mL._SS500_.jpg)

01. Good Morning (Intro)
02. Champion
03. Stronger
04. I Wonder
05. Good Life (Ft. T-Pain)
06. Can't Tell Me Nothing
07. Barry Bonds (Ft. Lil Wayne)
08. Drunk And Hot Girls (Ft. Mos Def)
09. Flashing Lights (Ft. Dwele)
10. Everything I Am
11. The Glory
12. Homecoming (Ft. Chris Martin)
13. Big Brother

Download (Group rip by OSC):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/rhyg1z
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: StreakInTheSky on August 31, 2007, 08:28:36 AM
:lol: thanks

love the cover

Kanye is turning Japanese! :lol:
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: RionZ on August 31, 2007, 08:32:40 AM
What a coincidence

I'm listening to it now :lol:

Not from the OSC rip:

i-tunes exclusive track

http://rapidshare.com/files/52379543/14_Bittersweet__-_.mp3.html

japan edition exclusive track

http://rapidshare.com/files/52379544/15_Can_t_Tell_Me_Nothing__Remix___-_.mp3.html

Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: A1 on September 01, 2007, 08:19:10 PM
Thanks MochaNutz. Only 13 tracks, I'm going to listen to it right after it DL.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: StreakInTheSky on September 03, 2007, 09:41:28 AM
After listening to it, It's probably my least favorite of his albums :lol:

Stronger is still an awesome song though
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: A1 on September 03, 2007, 08:15:40 PM
That track he did with Chris Martin was good too. It felt like the album lack something that his other two ones had.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on September 05, 2007, 01:30:01 AM
skits? =P  j/k

Homecoming is actually a remake.  It was on his Freshman Adjustment mixtape a while ago, with a different beat and John Legend instead of Chris Martin.  I like Home better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AleAzWe8rs

its a solid album but my least favorite of the three.  Not feeling Barry Bonds, and although funny I can still skip Drunk and Hot girls.  Never was a fan of Can't Tell Me Nothing either.  Really feeling I Wonder and Flashing Lights tho.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Kamesan on September 05, 2007, 06:27:52 AM
japan edition exclusive track

Here's another track from the Japanese edition.

Good Night
http://www.zshare.net/download/34764463edfe90/
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: aKaoNi on September 06, 2007, 06:02:07 AM
japan edition exclusive track

Here's another track from the Japanese edition.

Good Night
http://www.zshare.net/download/34764463edfe90/

File not found.

Thanks for the uploads Mocha and Rion.

Beatwise the album is good but not as great imo of his past two albums. Lyrics wise the man has stepped the game up tremendous. I skimmed through album and thought it was a great album. Listening to tracks fully, it's a classic. Sorry 50 lost this battle. Everything I Am is sick how he flips all the shit talked about him into a positive light. And Big Brother........... has to be damn one of his best songs...... ever?? Song is amazing period. Albums a classic in my book. Gonna actually buy it to support classic art.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Kamesan on September 06, 2007, 09:25:59 AM
I guess it was taken down. Here's a new link.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/f12kb3
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: aKaoNi on September 06, 2007, 02:56:17 PM
Thanks for the re-up Kamesan.

Jim Jones to G-Unit?? (http://allhiphop.com/blogs/rumors/archive/2007/09/06/18541856.aspx)

Apparently yesterday on BET's Rap City they aired a special interview between none other than 50 Cent and Jim Jones. I have yet to see the interview nor does the article claiming the rumor (http://allhiphop.com/blogs/rumors/archive/2007/09/06/18541856.aspx) clarify what the two spoke upon in their conversation but for Jim Jones who earlier in the year announced a rift between him and Camron (http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.5202/title.beef-within-dipset-camron-jim-jones) and who was for the most part silent during the 50 and Camron fued, this may possibly be what Jim Jones meant when he spoke in June on the beef between him and Camron and stated, "Business is always business, at the end of the day. If we want to keep this boat floatin, want to keep it like that, one of us gonna have to jump off ship, cause it’s gonna float, baby." (http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.5378/title.jim-jones-speaks-on-camron-feud-jay-z) Although this may just be a ploy to get more attention on 50 with his album dropping in a couple days, this actually may be a smart business move on both parties as it can potentially strengthen G-Unit's roster by adding one of the highest selling independent artists of last year and in Jim Jones situation it could give him the backing of a Major Label which would help him reach numbers he could only dream of while at Koch.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: StreakInTheSky on September 06, 2007, 11:56:01 PM
Jim Jones is shit. G-unit is even more shit.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: mode107 on September 07, 2007, 12:02:29 AM
Please don't join G-unit Jim Jones. I just like him flying solo-solo
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on September 09, 2007, 03:40:09 AM
Balliinnnnnnnnnnnnn!!

------

Lupe Fiasco - Superstar feat. Mathew Santos
First single off The Cool. 

http://www.zshare.net/audio/3516100e3b79d7/

Can't wait for the Cool.
Soundtrakk, he's got some hot beats.  Love his production.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: RionZ on September 09, 2007, 04:07:12 AM
Jim Jones is shit. G-unit is even more shit.

Naw...I think Jim Jones is more shit, but you're right about both being shit...
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on September 11, 2007, 09:41:59 PM
WU TANG, WU TANG, WU TANG, WU TAAAAAAAANGG!!!

Watch Your Muthafuckin' Mouth
Produced by DJ Scratch
http://www.zshare.net/audio/3543340c3549b2/
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: StreakInTheSky on September 12, 2007, 12:02:08 AM
Really good shit in there but it got kinda boring. There was no dynamic at all and was just a bunch of guys saying a bunch of shit. Flow sessions really shouldn't make it on recordings >_>
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: StreakInTheSky on September 15, 2007, 02:52:01 AM
Not exactly rap(which is why I prefer a "Hip-Hop Thread") but I was on myspace and this guy I knew from high school and middle school posted a bulletin for a new song. I went to his myspace, and he has some tight ass beats. One the the songs "Heavan" does have rapping though, it's pretty good.

Check him out

http://www.myspace.com/dtfortytwo
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: mumm-ra on September 15, 2007, 01:59:41 PM
I didn't like Kanye's last album - apart from the singles. Thought the first one was a lot better.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: RionZ on September 16, 2007, 05:01:43 AM
^I liked Late Registration, but definitely agree'd that College Dropout was superior.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on September 19, 2007, 06:58:34 AM
Kanye Crushes 50 Cent In Huge Album Sales Week

Kanye West's "Graduation" (Def Jam) easily leads the star-studded class of Sept. 11 releases, posting The Billboard 200's largest sales total in more than two years. Nielsen SoundScan will show West's album moved 957,000 during its first six days when the tracking service refreshes its charts tomorrow morning (Sept. 19). Also pumping album volume are 50 Cent's "Curtis" (G-Unit/Interscope), which will lock down the No. 2 slot with 691,000 sold. Kenny Chesney's "Just Who I Am: Poets & Pirates" (BNA/Sony BMG Nashville) will bow at No. 3 with 387,000 copies.

The total for West's "Graduation" is the largest by any album since 50 Cent's "The Massacre" opened with 1.1 million copies in March 2005. West's own August 2005 album, "Late Registration," was the last album to surpass 800,000 copies when it began with 860,000. While West beats 50 Cent in the celebrated clash between rappers, the real winners are music merchants. With the "High School Musical 2" soundtrack at No. 4 selling 133,000 copies, the top four titles alone account for 2.2 million units, more than all titles combined on last week's entire Billboard 200.

West's new album ranks 15th among all sales weeks since Nielsen SoundScan began tracking in 1991. The double punch provided by "Graduation" and "Curtis" also marks just the second time in that era that two albums have bowed in the same week with totals surpassing 600,000 copies. The last such occasion was in September 1991, when Guns N' Roses' "Use Your Illusion II" led The Billboard 200 with 770,000 copies in the same week that the band's companion album "Use Your Illusion I" bowed at No. 2 with 685,000, a pair of numbers now beaten by West and 50's totals.

"Graduation" also rings up the largest week yet by a digital album download, starting with 133,000, beating the prior record of 102,000, set earlier this year by Maroon 5's "It Won't Be Soon Before Long." 50 Cent and Chesney will occupy the same ranks on Top Digital Albums as they do on The Billboard 200, the former with 58,000 downloads and Chesney's with 36,000. Nielsen SoundScan has been tracking digital sales since midway through 2003. Chesney's overall total of 387,000 copies marks the largest sales week for a country album since the May 2006 arrival of Dixie Chicks' "Taking the Long Way," which opened at 526,000 copies.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003642725

Curtis must be furious right now  :lol:

CunninLynguists - Dirty Acres (advance)
http://www.mediafire.com/?7cw9dbmcm1t
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: RionZ on September 19, 2007, 07:55:35 AM
^w000t, go Kanye~
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on September 19, 2007, 06:23:35 PM
anyone got the Saigon - Moral of the Story? 
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: sh15uya on September 19, 2007, 06:57:55 PM
^ it seems that imaginaryplayers.blogspot (http://www.imaginaryplayers.blogspot.com/) has 4 songs


Curtis must be furious right now  :lol:
...and canceled several European performances.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: A1 on September 19, 2007, 07:31:35 PM
Curtis must be furious right now  :lol:
...and canceled several European performances.


50 Cent Plays The Blame Game, Accuses Def Jam Of Buying Kanye West CDs (http://sohh.com/articles/article.php/12579)


Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: cool_kickin_dude on September 19, 2007, 09:50:00 PM
does anybody have 50's new cd leaked out?
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on September 20, 2007, 06:01:17 AM
For Jay-Z, Inspiration Arrives in a Movie

LOS ANGELES, Sept. 19 — Jay-Z, the rap superstar and president of Def Jam Records, has quietly returned to the studio to record an album of new songs inspired by the forthcoming movie “American Gangster,” his first “concept” album and second CD in less than a year.

The album, which his label plans to release in early November, came together over the past few weeks after Jay-Z was shown the film, directed by Ridley Scott, in which Denzel Washington portrays Frank Lucas, a early 1970s Harlem heroin kingpin.

Following the underwhelming critical and commercial reception for his “Kingdom Come” CD late last year — and as Jay-Z grapples with whether to stay on in his post at Def Jam — the tie-in to a major motion picture gives him a chance to rebound strong and extend his reach to a wider audience.

At the same time, it could help Universal Pictures excite younger moviegoers, whom it will need to make money on a costly film with a troubled history. Though it’s not uncommon for films to be released alongside “inspired by” albums, it is rare for them to be recorded by a single artist, let alone by a major star who had no role in the movie.

In an hourlong telephone interview, Jay-Z, 37, who has spoken of spending his early years in Brooklyn both rapping and drug dealing, said that the movie had tremendous resonance for him and had sparked a burst of creative activity that even he found surprising. He has already recorded nine tracks, almost every one prompted by a specific scene.

“It was like I was watching the film, and putting it on pause, and giving a back story to the story,” he said.

The movie, set for a Nov. 2 release, depicts the Lucas character as an underworld Horatio Alger and an innovator who, despite keeping a low public profile, rose to such power that he was able to defy the Mafia bosses who had traditionally dominated the New York drug trade before being brought down by a special narcotics task force. (Its leader is played by Russell Crowe.) Jay-Z said he thought his fans would be struck by the image of a black man reaching such heights of success, even on the wrong side of the law, much like such ruthlessly efficient Al Pacino antiheroes as Tony Montana and Michael Corleone.

“It immediately clicked with me,” said Jay-Z, who has made passing references to gangster movies in previous recordings but has never delved so deeply into the genre. “Like ‘Scarface,’ or any one of those films, you take the good out of it, and you can see it as an inspiring film.”

A $100 million gritty period piece that largely takes place before the birth of hip-hop or many of its fans, “American Gangster” marks a sizable gamble for Universal, which fired one director, Antoine Fuqua, and scrapped the project at a cost of $30 million before restarting it with Mr. Scott in charge and with Mr. Crowe in place of Benicio del Toro. (Though they share a name, Universal Pictures and Universal Music Group, the parent of Def Jam, are no longer corporate brethren.)

Mr. Scott said he cast the rappers T. I., RZA and Common in supporting roles, hoping to appeal to a younger audience. But Brian Grazer, the film’s producer, said that Mr. Washington also pressed him more than a year ago to consider asking Jay-Z to do the film’s soundtrack.

“I just didn’t think there’d be enough for Jay-Z to do,” Mr. Grazer said, explaining that he resisted because he and Mr. Scott felt the movie required an authentic 1970s feel.

Instead Jay-Z offered to make his own album and release it in conjunction with the movie; Def Jam is also releasing the film’s official soundtrack, which features songs by Bobby Womack, the Staple Singers and Sam & Dave. Jay-Z plans to attend the film’s premiere but any cross-promotion deals have not been completed, executives said. The movie’s trailer already includes an older Jay-Z song, “Heart of the City.”

Mr. Grazer, who visited Jay-Z in the studio last week and heard seven of the new songs, said he was impressed by how the movie had “ignited all these memories of his childhood and how he grew up and the experiences he had, and the moral crossroads he had constantly in his life that were so parallel to Frank Lucas’s.”

Though Jay-Z, whose real name is Shawn Carter, said he’d never heard of Mr. Lucas while growing up in Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn, he still glimpsed much of himself in Mr. Washington’s portrayal: “The way he carried himself. The way he went about things. The way he wasn’t loud, but he was very strong.”

Echoing the “stop snitchin’ ” campaign among some hip-hop fans and artists, however, Jay-Z hastened to dissociate himself from Mr. Lucas’s decision to cooperate with the authorities to get a more lenient sentence.

“Me, I believe you choose your path and you walk your path, and whatever happens you got to accept it,” Jay-Z said.

In “No Hook,” a song on the new album, he says:

Please don’t compare me to other rappers. Compare me to trappers.

I’m more Frank Lucas than Ludacris. And Lude is my dude, I ain’t trying to dis.

Just like Frank Lucas is cool, but I ain’t tryin’ to snitch.

I’m-a follow the rules, no matter how much time I’m-a get.

I’m-a live and die with the decisions that I’m-a pick.

Jay-Z’s new album is certain to punctuate what had been a year of relatively slow sales for Def Jam until the huge chart debut this week of Kanye West’s CD “Graduation.” Jay-Z is said to be mulling whether to extend his three-year employment contract, return to recording and touring full time or explore other options. In the interview he deflected questions about his future. “I would love to work it out” and stay at Def Jam, he said, but he added that he was wavering and would do some “soul-searching” after finishing the album.

His decision to record “American Gangster” is a surprise, given that his last album was released less than a year ago. “Kingdom Come” sold about 1.5 million copies, his lowest figure for a full studio album since 1997. And its elaborate marketing campaign, including alliances with Budweiser and ESPN, prompted some suggestions that Jay-Z’s branching-out into other business endeavors, and taste for the jet-setting life, had begun to undermine his street credibility.

He made no apologies for his transformation into a global brand. “Jay doesn’t live in Brooklyn any more,” he said. Rather, he ventured that “Kingdom Come” was a little too “sophisticated” for some listeners. “American Gangster,” he said, would be a return to a tougher, more unflinching view of street life.

“Watching that film, it brought back all these memories,” he said. “It took me back to those emotions.”

Illustrating his point, he launched again into “No Hook”: “ ‘Poor me, Dad was gone, finally got my Dad back, liver bad, he wouldn’t live long, it snatched my Dad back.’ ”

He added that the song “takes you through this journey — his journey, my journey — so many people’s journey that come from the areas that we come from.”

Throughout the interview Jay-Z sounded almost jubilant talking about his creative process, and he repeatedly interrupted himself to try out his latest rhymes:

“ ‘Mindstate of a gangster from the 40’s, meet business mind of Motown’s Berry Gordy,’ ” he rapped from “Pray,” another new song.

“How crazy is that?” he said giddily.

And, in another rap:

This is the genesis of a nemesis

Mother America’s not witnessed since

the Harlem Renaissance

birthed black businesses.

“I’m not even joking with you,” he said, laughing. “It’s out-of-body experiences at this point.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/20/arts/music/20jayz.html?_r=2&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1190261428-6toMcau62A3rNuMzOZo+xQ&oref=slogin

Sounds like Jay is finally making a comeback (Kingdom Come was a poor attempt). The word on the streets is that Jay's new single "Blue Magic" will be released tomorrow and it's produced by Pharrell. The concept of the album is quite interesting and it should work as long as Jay doesn't stray too far from it (so no stripper anthems or club songs this time). And I sure hope that he abandons his "old man whisper flow" that he used on Kingdom Come, that shit just ain't Jay. Anyways a new Jay-Z album is always welcome  :thumbsup

does anybody have 50's new cd leaked out?

http://rapidshare.com/files/55080031/50_Cent-Curtis__Special_Edition_-2007-VAG_INT.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/?ezldolthmv4
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: aKaoNi on September 22, 2007, 04:44:47 PM
^ Yeah wonder how it's gon turn out, as for blue magic if ya'll haven't already checked it out:

Jay Z ft Pharrell - Blue Magic (right click and save) (http://www.thahighlife.com/j/jay-z%20f.%20pharrell%20-%20blue%20magic.mp3)

Listening to it a couple times, it's definitely not commercial Jay, I wouldn't call it Reasonable Doubt Jay neither. I know they tryna do a more street jay but I think the beat coulda been harder than that, to me it doesn't have that hard street feel to it like a Grinding beat or What happened to that boy type beat that Pharrell can lace. Maybe if I listen to it more it'll grow on me. As for now I think it's iight, lyrics didn't impress me much.

Saw Mocha posted the Lupe Superstar track, dunno if ya'll heard his Dumb it Down track, he straight kills the track lyrically:

Lupe Fiasco - Dumb It Down (right click and save) (http://www.thahighlife.com/j/Lupe%20Fiasco%20-%20Dumb_It_Down.mp3)
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Jsmurf on September 25, 2007, 12:04:51 AM
lol, didn't 50 say he was going to quit or retire if kanye outsold him?
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on October 01, 2007, 06:53:22 AM
REUNITED (Scratch magazine)

FOR RZA, ENTERING the Wu-Tang Clan's fifth chamber has been tougher than Chinese arithmetic. Ever since the iconic supergroup dropped their fourth disc, Iron Flag, in 2001, varying degrees of drama-ranging from Ol' Dirty's death in '04 to Ghostface's hesitancy to lay vocals-delayed Wu's long-awaited comeback. Despite their differences, the Clan once again formed like Voltron to work on 8 Diagrams, a disc chock full of Ghostface verses, kung fu samples and even a new "torture" skit. Not since "Da Mystery of Chessboxin'" has the Clan held such a carefully guarded secret. The Abbot sheds light.

"LIFE CHANGES" PRODUCED BY RZA
That's a song that we dedicated to ODB. I put together an old Freda Payne sample and classic Wu-sounding drums. We originally started it for Dirty's album that never came out. Each Clan member says eight bars a piece to Dirty. It starts off with Method Man, and he has this one line that I love: "Ol' Dirty, in your honor/I've grown a fetish for loose women and baby mamas."

"YOU CAN'T STOP ME NOW" PRODUCED BY RZA
It sounds like a black western. I had John Frusciante [of Red Hot Chili Peppers] play lead guitar. The sample we played over comes from an old song, "Message to the Black Man." There's been many versions, but we referenced a reggae one. I rap on this, and I'm talking about how I started off as a smalltime hustler, but kept going, amidst death threats. To fight depression, I would make beats that became songs, which became hits. Then, Rebel INS and Ghostface come on.

"THUG WORLD" PRODUCED BY RZA
That's just hardcore, ghetto. [System of a Down member] Shavo Odadjian's bass-playing is crazy on this. The beat is just fuckin' wild cowboy-style. Deck sets it off, Raekwon and myself have ill verses on it, and U-God comes in. I'd compare the beat's energy to "Method Man."

"WATCH YOUR MOUTH" PRODUCED BY DJ SCRATCH, CO-PRODUCED BY RZA
This is potentially the first single. Scratch came in with some beats he had made with Wu-Tang in mind. But for this album, I've been using instrumentation, so I added those elements to Scratch's beat. Every Clan member threw a verse on it. It's a throwback to "Protect Ya Neck," with that same impulse. The original title was "You Better Watch Your Muthafuckin' Mouth," but that wouldn't work for radio.

"TITLE TBD" PRODUCED BY RZA
I love The Beatles' "While My Guitar Gently Weeps." I've always been warned not to sample Beatles songs because you can't clear them, but I wanted to take a chance. I had a mutual friend link me with Dhani Harrison, George's son, who just happens to be a huge Wu fan. I thought, imagine if George Harrison's son played on a new version of his father's song. Meth, Rae, and Ghost are on it, each [offering] a different perspective [on] the dope game. The Beatles meets Wu-Tang, on a song about drugs? That's incredible.

"WOLVES" PRODUCED BY RZA
There's Method Man, Masta Killa and U-God. The way U-God sets this fuckin' record off...he's underated, but he won't be after this album. He's as powerful on this song as "Raw I'ma give it to ya, with no trivia" [from "Da Mystery of Chessboxin'"]. The beat has a vocal sample for pulse, and I used a multi-layered clap snare. I played guitar myself on it, and DJ Mathematics scratched some ODB vocals. DJ Scratch's brother is a trumpet player, and he plays a line I wrote.

"TAKE IT BACK" PRODUCED BY EASY MO BEE, CO-PRODUCED BY RZA
I had to make a confession to Mo-he's the first person I ever saw with an SP-1200. He produced the B-side to my first single, "Ohh, We Love You Rakeem," as well as GZA's [Words from the Genius]. He's the one who inspired me to get an SP-1200; he helped me become a producer. At first, he just played drums on "Campfire" [another 8 Diagrams track], but then he played me a beat, and I had the Clan rip it up, talking about what's missing in the game today-the heart.

:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

^ Yeah wonder how it's gon turn out, as for blue magic if ya'll haven't already checked it out:

Jay Z ft Pharrell - Blue Magic (right click and save) (http://www.thahighlife.com/j/jay-z%20f.%20pharrell%20-%20blue%20magic.mp3)

Listening to it a couple times, it's definitely not commercial Jay, I wouldn't call it Reasonable Doubt Jay neither. I know they tryna do a more street jay but I think the beat coulda been harder than that, to me it doesn't have that hard street feel to it like a Grinding beat or What happened to that boy type beat that Pharrell can lace. Maybe if I listen to it more it'll grow on me. As for now I think it's iight, lyrics didn't impress me much.
Jay's rapping sounds nice (and way better than on KC) but the beat is average as hell. To be honest I'm not a big fan of The Neptunes' street beats, Pharrell should have given Jay another smooth beat like "Allure". Anyways I'm still excited about the album  :yep:

Saw Mocha posted the Lupe Superstar track, dunno if ya'll heard his Dumb it Down track, he straight kills the track lyrically:

Lupe Fiasco - Dumb It Down (right click and save) (http://www.thahighlife.com/j/Lupe%20Fiasco%20-%20Dumb_It_Down.mp3)
Dopeness  :thumbsup
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: AzN_DreaMerS on October 02, 2007, 07:59:32 PM
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/415u3Sm79mL._SS500_.jpg)

01. Good Morning (Intro)
02. Champion
03. Stronger
04. I Wonder
05. Good Life (Ft. T-Pain)
06. Can't Tell Me Nothing
07. Barry Bonds (Ft. Lil Wayne)
08. Drunk And Hot Girls (Ft. Mos Def)
09. Flashing Lights (Ft. Dwele)
10. Everything I Am
11. The Glory
12. Homecoming (Ft. Chris Martin)
13. Big Brother

Download (Group rip by OSC):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/rhyg1z

someone can reupload it please ?
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on October 04, 2007, 06:53:42 AM
Wu-Tang Clan's 8 Diagrams gets new release date
The long-awaited, much anticipated 8 Diagrams album from the Wu-Tang Clan will be coming out on December 4. The original release date for 8 Diagrams was November 13.

http://www.hiphopgame.com/news.php3?id=1917

Loud.com Exclusive Wu-Tang Clan Release
Loud / SRC Records’s own Wu-Tang Clan have released their official debut single, “The Heart Gently Weeps” featuring Erykah Badu, exclusively on Loud.com. Yea, that’s right, you can’t hear it anywhere else! The track will be featured on their upcoming album, The 8 Diagrams, in stores December 4, 2007. The album will be their first in 6 years and promises to be another classic from the Wu!
So check out the track and play it over and over. Spread the word the Wu is back and only on Loud.com! It just ain't cool to keep something so good to yourself - that's why we're sharing it with you!


Wu-Tang Clan - The Heart Gently Weeps
http://sharebee.com/7f9b34bb

Great song, I'm feeling "The Heart Gently Weeps" more than "Watch Your Mouth". Meth and Ghost both deliver ill verses and the concept of the song is great too. The song would be perfect if Rae didn't sound like he was half asleep  :banghead:
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on October 08, 2007, 06:17:46 AM
i'm not really feeling rae's lazy sleepy style on these past 2 tracks...

----

Listening to Mash's Revenge on the BBall Zombie war soundtrack makes me want a DillaDoom collabo album.  RIP Jay Dee.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: RatBastich on October 09, 2007, 03:58:39 AM
Forgot all about the Hip-Hop Honors being shown on VH1 tonight.
I'll catch it when they rerun it.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on October 11, 2007, 06:19:25 AM
Jay-Z - Roc Boys (And The Winner Is)
http://sharebee.com/8c4f02da

Definitely one of the best Jay-Z songs since The Black Album  :shocked:

Listening to Mash's Revenge on the BBall Zombie war soundtrack makes me want a DillaDoom collabo album.  RIP Jay Dee.
Word, those both Dilla tracks are straight fire. I would love to hear Doom rapping over Dilla's Donuts  :yep:
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: cool_kickin_dude on October 17, 2007, 09:08:05 PM
Love the new Wu-Tang songs, Masa! I got them playing all the time now!
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on October 19, 2007, 01:47:30 PM
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6948/51ikpxraswlss500fm6.jpg)

RZA Talks New Wu-Tang Album, 15th Anniversary

LWMB: You’ve done a lot of projects outside of Wu-Tang Clan, including acting, scoring soundtracks and writing a book. What’s the last six years been like for you and how do you feel about the 15th anniversary of the release of 36 Chambers?

RZA: It’s been good, but something has been missing. The chance to come again with the Wu and do what we’re made to do is like a fulfillment to me. Yeah, it’s crazy, yo. It doesn’t feel like [15 years] because I always feel like I never accomplish anything. I’m not sure what kind of disease that is but I feel like I haven’t done what I’m supposed to do yet in this world.

It must be difficult to gather all of the members into one place to work on tracks. How did you approach the album from a production perspective?

I took the movie approach: pre-production, then principle photography and then postproduction, which was editing and all that. We took April to get back in synch with each other and vibe. The second 30 days took place in June when we got more detailed into the recording.

What’s the significance of the album’s title, 8 Diagrams?

We’re always about mathematics and the name has a couple of different concepts to it. The first and primary thing that inspired the name is a film called The Invincible Pole Fighters. When they dubbed it into English, they changed the title to The 8 Diagram Pole Fighter because there’s a scene where a guy in a fighting sequence forms the sign of the I-Ching, the 8 diagrams. That movie had a great sense of loyalty and brotherhood, dedication and commitment, and it’s a good movie. It inspired me when I first formed Wu-Tang Clan in the 1990’s—eight brothers who battled and had to keep the tradition alive. I always talked about paying homage to that movie over the years, and I finally got a chance to do it.

I liked “Take It Back” a lot. I understand [hip-hop production icon] Easy Mo Bee worked on it with you.

Before I became good at making beats, I had a few machines at my house, like a Casio RD1, 909 drum machine and a four-track recorder. I didn’t have a good sampler like an SP1200; besides, I didn’t really know what they were or how to use them. I went to Easy Mo Bee’s house back in the day when he was working on the GZA’s first album and he had two SP1200s, and he was making all of these great beats. I couldn’t believe that machine sounded so incredible and it inspired me to get one. I made Bring the Pain on my SP1200, so I have to thank him. He produced the GZA and my first single, "Oh We Love You Rakeem" and the B-side “Sexcapades”—he’s like the first producer for Wu-Tang. So I got the chance to hook up with him on this new album and got to kick it with him. For me to go and collaborate with him was an honor and a privilege. He came down to the studio, played a lot of beats and this one was up our alley with that real New York feel. We took a shot at it; he put the beat together but I added a few things and gave him some direction and there it is. It’s the second collaboration.

I’m sure it was difficult to address ODB’s death on “Life Changes.” Was that a hard song to put down?

We dedicated that song to ODB and it took me a long time—about eight months—to make that song. It was an emotional thing to get every member to get their take on it. It was one of the first songs I recorded for the new album. When we decided to do a new Wu-Tang album, this song was on top of the stack.

LWMB: It’s been six years since the Clan released an album. Do you worry how fitting in with all of the young bucks?

RZA: Hey, they need to figure out how they fit in. Wu-Tang is like a cornerstone of hip-hop. One difference between us and new artists is that a lot of them have learned him-hop from watching TV and videos. Wu-tang lived hip-hop, and we’re the ones who helped pioneer it; we’re not the bottled water—we’re the source they get the water from.

The first single is “My People Gently Weep,” which features George Harrison’s son, Dahni. How did that track come about?

That’s a take on "My Guitar Gently Weeps" and it’s a metaphor. I’ve been studying about rock ‘n’ roll lately. I’ve been hanging around my buddy Shavo [Odadjian] from System of A Down, and he’s turned me onto a lot of classic rock and metal. I’ve learned that a lot of guitar players were stuck on heroin and a lot of needles were involved in the music. To me, the vein is like a guitar string, and I wanted to say how the pain of drugs causes so much pain inside: the user, the family and the dealer because of the sins he’s making and the lives he’s destroying. I wanted to capture that idea and went to the Clan and said I wanted to write a song about dope.

So how did you meet Dhani?

A mutual friend is a great music executive, Mo Austin. His son, Mike, is the president of Dreamworks. I’ve been friends with Mike for about ten years. I was at his house one day talking about that song [“My Guitar Gently Weeps “] and how I wanted to record it and make it a song. He said it was one of his favorite Beatles songs and George Harrison actually wrote it. He told me the back story about the song and how Eric Clapton played lead guitar…now I was fascinated by the history of the song!

Mike is a friend of the Harrison family and it turned out he was a fan of mine. I was like, “Get outta here!” He put us on the phone together and hit it off. We wound up having a few dinners in California, and I asked him to play on the record. I got a 1961 Gretsch and that was the weapon on that song. I think a piece of history was captured.

I heard 9 snippets from 8 Diagrams. What else is on the album?

“The Gun Will Go” has a unique vibe that has a haunting guitar vibe with Raekown and Method Man with some of their most menacing voices. “No Matter How Hard the Time May Seem” is a flashback to the classic Raekwon/Ghostface collaborations and has a great sample from Michael Jackson featuring Inspectach Deck tearing it up. It almost sounds like it could be a Cuban Linx track. There’s “Campfire” where Method Man and Ghostface goes back-to-back with Cappadonna with an old Persuassions vocal sample.

Do you get to Staten Island much these days?

Not much. I have good friends and family there. I don’t go back often—maybe five or five times a year. It’s a crazy place.

What’s your greatest hope for the album?

I have hope that Wu-Tang will help bring back some kind of balance to hip-hop. I know there’s a lot of cookie-cutter music out there and lots of angles, but we’re the difference between brown weed and green weed. Our job is to add some balance to hip-hop and continue our legacy.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on October 25, 2007, 06:31:36 AM
Wu-Tang Clan - The Heart Gently Weeps single
Sendspace (http://www.sendspace.com/file/b552lm)

Wu-Tang Clan - Take It Back
Sharebee (http://sharebee.com/9cb6110c)

Jay-Z - American Gangster snippets
listen (http://www.7digital.com/artists/jay-z/american-gangster/)
download (http://sharebee.com/8191b99d)
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: num2son on October 29, 2007, 08:16:02 PM
Thanks alot Masa
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: cool_kickin_dude on October 30, 2007, 09:14:12 PM
hey Masa, when's the new American Gangster album coming out? I like tog et it! :)
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on October 30, 2007, 09:53:06 PM
hey Masa, when's the new American Gangster album coming out? I like tog et it! :)

Jay-Z - American Gangster (128bit version)
(http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/8349/jayzamericangangstercovxg9.jpg)
Sendspace (http://www.sendspace.com/file/corsbl)

Jigga is back! Fallin' might be the song of the year and overall the album is really consistent, especially production wise. American Gangster is way better than Kingdom Come and eventually it might end up being my 3rd favorite Jigga album. Right now the only song I'm not feeling is Hello Brooklyn which doesn't really blend in with the album's soulful production. My favorite songs at the moment are Fallin', Say Hello, Pray, Success and Ignorant Shit. Even though Ignorant Shit is an old song (it was originally made for The Black Album), it doesn't sound out of place at all. The new third verse by Jay is on point and Beans sounds pretty good as well. The 2nd Jay/Nas collabo doesn't disappoint either. Success might not be as dope as Black Republican but it's still a great song and both Jay and Nas kill the song. Anyways American Gangster is one great album and definitely one of the best rap albums of the year  :yep:

Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: cool_kickin_dude on October 30, 2007, 09:54:20 PM
^ Thanks Masa you are MY MAN! :)
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on October 31, 2007, 05:37:58 AM
Props Masa :thumbsup -butt gotta listen to it after I watch the movie. I gotta admit, his hooks on Kanye's Graduation was DOPE. HUSTLAZ that's if ya still living GET ON DOWN....GET ON DOWN!  :pimp:

AND The Gently WEEPS single. SHIT....Dec 11 can't cum soon enuff.  :yep:

although funny I can still skip Drunk and Hot girls.  Never was a fan of Can't Tell Me Nothing either.  Really feeling I Wonder and Flashing Lights tho.

HAHAHA Drunk hot girls reminded me of hanging out with johnbobman, we just running into ho after ho. I liked "Wonder" ... Kanye's album tho most popular, is the most refreshing of all shit that's come out lately. I still like his Throw Some D's remix.

REUNITED (Scratch magazine)

FOR RZA, ENTERING the Wu-Tang Clan's fifth chamber has been tougher than Chinese arithmetic. Ever since the iconic supergroup dropped their fourth disc, Iron Flag, in 2001, varying degrees of drama-ranging from Ol' Dirty's death in '04 to Ghostface's hesitancy to lay vocals-delayed Wu's long-awaited comeback. Despite their differences, the Clan once again formed like Voltron to work on 8 Diagrams, a disc chock full of Ghostface verses, kung fu samples and even a new "torture" skit. Not since "Da Mystery of Chessboxin'" has the Clan held such a carefully guarded secret. The Abbot sheds light.

EPIC ARTICLE!!!   :twisted:

Check out this article:

The Wu-Tang Clan's Abbot was in New York last week helping to promote his "American Gangster" movie. That's right: Common and T.I. were advertised more heavily, but the RZA plays a pretty substantial part in the flick. He's part of the po-po team lead by Russell Crowe. He did his thing, too.

OK, enough of that — we'll get to RZA's Hollywood endeavors next time. But if you love the Wu like we do, you most definitely were disappointed by the latest airing of family business. Last week Ghostface Killah told us he's hotter than leftover Chinese food straight out of the microwave.

Why? He alleges that he isn't getting his fair share of the cake from the Clan's stint on the recent Rock the Bells summer tour. In addition, the Clan's 8 Diagrams LP was pushed back from a tentative fall release date to December 4, the same day as Ghost's solo effort, The Big Dough Rehab. He pointed the finger at the Clan's "hierarchy," and we all know who that is.

"The blame can't fall on me like that," RZA said about the dueling release dates. "Wu-Tang Clan is a bunch of brothers working on one common cause. ... We planned to put that record out in September, then October, and it kept getting pushed because it's just a lot of work, yo. ... I wasn't really conscious [Ghost] was dropping an album on December 4th, but yesterday we moved our [group] record from the 4th to the 11th. We gave that spot to Ghostface ... because of how he felt. ... I had to make that call. [SRC label head] Steve Rifkind also, he was getting bashed up by Ghost [in the Mixtape Monday interview]. So ... we moved.

"We didn't have him move, we moved," RZA continued. "I think that shows the kind of bigger men we could be. Ghost is my brother, I love him to death. But we're in this business, and it's hard to kind of discern what's right and what's wrong. ... But I will say that, when it comes to a Wu-Tang Clan album, I plan on making it a 60-, 90-day type of schedule. ... It turned out to be a 200-day schedule ... and I didn't want to wait until next year [to put out 8 Diagrams].

"But Ghostface, we moved it to the 11th. You got that 4th. Do your thing right then, double up [the] next week, make mad cream this year, family."

Mixtape Monday extra: Check out RZA's special message to Ghostface.
http://www.mtv.com/bands/m/mixtape_monday/102207/

Heads up Canadian Rap fans. Mef is on tour, I'm going November 10th.
(http://img4.shareavenue.com/thumbnails/5/c/c/3/5cc3e65f47b857aaed711190b0aa852f813e5fc7.jpg) (http://img4.shareavenue.com/image.php?file=5cc3e65f47b857aaed711190b0aa852f813e5fc7)
http://www.methodmantour.com/tickets.html

Any word on Kardinal's new shit?? It's the end of October and nothing? Just some BET AWards:
http://www.bet.com/onblast/?chan=23&id=1223&itype=e

digging this:

Fat Joe feat. Lil Wayne..."THE CRACK HOUSE" (Fiddy dis)
[youtube=425,350]HvzeROvLwao[/youtube]
I dun get why Lil Wayne is all over the place lol

Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on November 02, 2007, 06:10:42 AM
I thought she was in jail.
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Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on November 02, 2007, 09:57:09 PM
Wu-Tang Clan - 8 Diagrams tracklist
1. Campfire
2. Take It Back
3. Get Them Out Ya Way Pa
4. Face The Problems
5. The Heart Gently Weeps
6. Wolves
7. Gun Will Go
8. Sunlight
9. Stick Me For My Riches
10. Windmill
11. Starter
12. Weak Spot
13. Life Changes
14. Tar Pit feat George Clinton
15. 16th Chamber (ODB Special)

It's been 14 years since the Wu-Tang Clan took hip hop by the scruff of the neck and kicked new life into a stagnating genre. They arrived just as the first flush of gangsta superstars had helped shift rap's centre of gravity from its New York birthplace to the barbecues, swap-meets and low rider cars of sun-kissed Los Angeles, a whole continent distant, and temperamentally half a world away.
Recruiting from their army of friends and relatives, they assembled a rap supergroup: Clifford "Method Man" Smith, Russell "Ol' Dirty Bastard" Jones, Corey "Raekwon" Woods, Dennis "Ghostface Killah" Coles, Jason "Inspectah Deck" Hunter, Lamont "U-God" Hawkins Elgin "Masta Killa" Turner. They were nine emcees, each with a distinctive style and flow. They would record, first, as a group, which would announce each as an individual the personalities established, each would release their own records, play their own shows, carve their own niche in the pop culture edifice.Cut to 2007, freshly signed to Bodog Music in Europe the eight emcees have got a rumble in their collective belly once again. RZA is back in charge "I'm in year three of my new five-year plan," he grins and the Clan are back in the studio.

And the line-up is as stellar and eclectic as one might have hoped for: as well as long-time collaborator Mathematics, RZA has been working with Q-Tip, Easy Mo Be,  hip hop pioneer Marley Marl, EPMD's DJ Scratch, and, in a real departure, the legendary Chic mastermind Nile Rogers.  The reliance on samples will be alleviated, too, by RZA's preference of working with two bands - Stone Mecca and Sound Guild, who are providing a mixture of improvised sounds to RZA's beat skeletons, and playing music the WU leader has written and scored for them. Other guests include Red Hot Chili Peppers guitar legend John Frusciante, System of a Down's bassist Shavo Odadjian, Erykah Badu (vocal on The Heart Gently Weeps) and Dhani Harrison, the son of the late Beatle, George. The Ol Dirty Bastard tribute ‘16th Chamber’ is one of two special edition bonus tracks featuring new lyrics from the late O.D.B. How Can Hip Hop be dead if WU TANG is …FOREVER!!


http://www.normanrecords.com/records/95004

Looks like Watch Your Mouth ain't gonna be on the album  :?


Rza on how he got the role of Moses Jones

Audiences are anxiously waiting the film "American Gangster" starring Academy Award winners Denzel Washington and Russell Crowe.
The movie, opening this Friday, Nov. 2, chronicles the story of Frank Lucas, a 1970s heroin kingpin from Manhattan, and the detective sworn to take him down. Directed by Ridley Scott, the mega-starred flick also features legendary actress Ruby Dee and rapper/composer RZA, who recently spoke with reporters about their roles in the film and the legacy of Lucas. "I tried out like many other actors," RZA said of scoring a role in the highly anticipated film. "I tried out first for the character whose name is Jimmy. They liked my screen test, but they did not like the way that I was doing the character - he was more like a cokehead and I was doing more like a weed-head. But they called me back a couple of weeks [later] and told me I got the part, but a much bigger part. They told me I'd be doing the part of Moses Jones."

RZA's Moses Jones, a police officer working with Detective Richie Roberts (Crowe) on the case of drug lord Lucas.
"I learned a lot. I learned from Mr. Crow and the real police officers that were on the set making sure the lingo was right or the attitude was right," he said. "In some of the shots of the film, you see real police officers beside us. I grew up in New York City on the other side of the law. To get a chance to play a cop in the film is kind of ironic."

Another cast member calls New York home, too. Ruby Dee stars in the film as the Lucas matriarch, who is the recipient of much of the glitter gained by Lucas' drug trafficking. As Mama Lucas, Dee admits that she portrays a woman in deliberate denial.
"I think that she had a sense that [her son] was involved in something that wasn't quite right," she said. "She didn't want to acknowledge it. She wanted to believe that there was something more in store for [the family]. I think for a long time, she turned her eye. And there was no husband in the house. I think she was accommodating in the best way possible for a black woman at the time, and hoping - because he was personable and an intelligent man." Dee continued that she was a witness to the benevolence of the "gangsters" of Harlem during that time.

"I lived in that period; I grew up in Harlem so it seems like something of that is in my consciousness. Thinking in terms of the Robin Hood agenda of those modern gangsters, as they mentioned in the film, on Thanksgiving they would come around with shopping bags with a turkey for the people. Some of them would ensure the maintenance of the building. There was a feeling of protection. If you needed something, you could go to the right person and they would help you out. It was so mixed up," she said.
RZA agreed, "It's a double edged sword. I respect how he treated his family, but at the same time, he was messing up so many other families."
It's that paradox that brings to the forefront the concern of telling these stories without glamorizing the crime. RZA spoke to that issue saying that telling the story is not really to blame. He himself admits to growing up watching movies "The Godfather" series and "Goodfellas" and becoming entranced with that way of life.

"You watch 'em and you become fascinated with the violence and the criminals," he said. "But a movie is a movie. It's based on a true story, but it's not a true story. For those who get inspired by the negative side, I hope they realize what happens in the end."
"It did tell the story of Frank's own impressions and having to accept the horror of racism at such a young age and then moving in the direction as a way to live his life," Ruby Dee said. "I did understand that. When he began to involve the family, [Mama Lucas] got afraid for the family and for him, because they did look up to him." "American Gangster," also starring Armand Asante and Cuba Gooding Jr. opens this weekend, November 2, in theaters nationwide. "When I take a look at this picture objectively, I'm horrified," Ruby Dee said. "It's such a sad, sad story. It's this broken life of a potentially brilliant young man."
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on November 03, 2007, 03:29:55 AM
heads up fool, Jay-Z is on Letterman tonite.

Listened to a few...ain't feeling Erykah Badu singing "Gently Weeps"

Looks like Watch Your Mouth ain't gonna be on the album  :?

FUCK!!
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on November 05, 2007, 08:14:18 PM
Finally listened to American Gangster (hehe, finally, and it comes out tomorrow).
Overall, i like it.  Its not his best, but definitely beats Kingdom Come.  I haven't actually listened to all of his albums, btw.  Only Kingdom Come, Blueprint, and Black Album.  Yeah i know, i'm missing out on Reasonable Doubt. 

Fallin' is the Track!!!  Sick!  Jermaine Dupri and No.I.D.!  That inspires me.
I don't like Hello Brooklyn 2.0.  I hate Lil Wayne.  They shoulda taken that off.
I'm feelin Roc Boys, No Hook, Ignorant Shit, Say Hello, Success, Fallin'.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on November 06, 2007, 05:21:32 PM
Wu-Tang Clan 8 Diagrams Mixtape

New York, NY (November 5, 2007) – Loud.com and the Wu-Tang Clan are whetting appetites for the Wu’s upcoming release with the "8 Diagrams" Mixtape and official mixtape widget. The legendary Wu-Tang Clan will release their latest album "8 Diagrams" on December 11th, 2007 through Loud/SRC Records. The "8 Diagrams" mixtape is available for FREE download exclusively through Loud.com. It features 29 tracks of new and unreleased Wu-Tang material. You can stream the full mixtape using the Loud.com "8 Diagrams" widget, which we’ve enabled you to ***** into any MySpace or blog (feel free to pass along to other fans and friends). Or, if you’d prefer to download it for yourself, you can click this link and download the full mixtape for free from Loud.com.

01 - Intro (Featuring Method Man)
02 - Watch Your Mouf (Wu-Tang Exclusive)
03 - State of Grace (Raekwon Exclusive)
04 - Break that Break (Unreleased)
05 - Wu Banga 101 Remix (Unreleased)
06 - My Corner (Raekwon Exclusive)
07 - Stick Me 4 My Riches (Wu-Tang Exclusive)
08 - Thug World (Wu-Tang Exclusive)
09 - Maxine Remix (Unreleased)
10 - King Toast Queen (Unreleased)
11 - Strawberries & Cream Remix
12 - Weak Spot (Wu-Tang Exclusive)
13 - Intoxicated (Featuring Macy Gray) (ODB Exclusive)
14 - Crooklyn Dodgers (Ghostface Exclusive)
15 - The W Remix (Unreleased)
16 - Real Nillaz
17 - Ghost Is Back
18 - Don't Go Breaking My Heart (ODB Featuring Macy Gray)
19 - Violent Skit
20 - Life Changes (Wu-Tang Exclusive)
21 - Treez (Unreleased)
22 - The Abduction
23 - John 3:16
24 - Good
25 - Da Destroyer (Raekwon Freestyle)
26 - Iron God Chamber
27 - 4:20
28 - Wise (Unreleased)
29 - Presidential MC
DOWNLOAD (http://www.loud.com/downloads/Wu-TangReturns.zip)

Jay-Z - Roc Boys (And The Winner Is) video
http://videos.onsmash.com/v/lpfbTekxRAM2HP6L

Lupe Fiasco - Superstar video
http://videos.onsmash.com/v/latNi2CmvwS9FZt7

Yeah i know, i'm missing out on Reasonable Doubt.

*pimpslaps Mocha*

Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
http://www.sendspace.com/file/1ve73n
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: cool_kickin_dude on November 06, 2007, 10:07:51 PM
once again Masa, you are MY MAN! *starts d/l'ing*

"Wu-Tang again?" "Oh yeah, again and again!" (from Protect Ya Neck)
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on November 08, 2007, 07:44:11 AM
Wu-Tang Clan 8 Diagrams Mixtape

New York, NY (November 5, 2007) – Loud.com and the Wu-Tang Clan are whetting appetites for the Wu’s upcoming release with the "8 Diagrams" Mixtape and official mixtape widget. The legendary Wu-Tang Clan will release their latest album "8 Diagrams" on December 11th, 2007 through Loud/SRC Records. The "8 Diagrams" mixtape is available for FREE download exclusively through Loud.com. It features 29 tracks of new and unreleased Wu-Tang material. You can stream the full mixtape using the Loud.com "8 Diagrams" widget, which we’ve enabled you to ***** into any MySpace or blog (feel free to pass along to other fans and friends). Or, if you’d prefer to download it for yourself, you can click this link and download the full mixtape for free from Loud.com.

Props homie! 8 DIAGRAMS IS GONNA BE HOT!

WHOA fuckers crashed the Loud site  :shocked:
/me pimpslaps Masa*

Here's some alternate links I found:
http://www.twitter.com/?d=NO2PWV0F
http://www.zshare.net/download/471862419b8f47/

I too listened to Jigga's new disc and Fuck. Surprised my ass off. Prolly the most listenable in long while, prolly since Black Album. Here he is on Letterman (incl. interview)
[youtube=425,350]N3Tp4PuU5_c[/youtube]

the roc boys in the building tonight
look at how i'm chillen im killing this ice
you dont even gotta bring your purses out
we the dope boys of the year drinks is on the house WE IN THE HOUSE!!


Ignorant Shit & American Gangster. I gots 2 update the HiPtionary now

I copped this DVD. Anyone seen it before? Can't believe it's been 3 years already. I'm gonna try to rip and post it for y'all in honor of Dirt McGirt. :pimp:
(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8498/dirtymrtbv4.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on November 09, 2007, 02:39:52 AM
Saigon - Come On Baby
FINALLY, looks like he's droppin' on Dec 4.  I loved this song when i first heard it.  Video is budget, but whatever.  It's SAIGON

http://videovault.morrisvideos.com/videos/saigon_come_on_baby_feat_swizz_beatz

Come On baby Remix feat. Jay-Z
http://www.zshare.net/audio/47256662229695/

-----------------

First Ghost, now Rae.
Raekwon speaks out on RZA and making the album
http://realtalkny.rawkus.com/2007/11/topic/topic/videos/video-raekwon-talks-about-the-new-wu-tang-album-problems-with-rza/
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on November 09, 2007, 08:02:21 AM
(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7987/40980bigdoerehabic2.jpg)

Tracklist:
01. At the Cabana Skit [performed by Ghostface Killah and Rhythm Roots Allstars]
02. Toney Sigel a.k.a the Barrel Brothers [ft. Beanie Sigel and Styles P]
03. Yolanda's House [ft. Raekwon and Method Man]
04. We Celebrate [ft. Kid Capri]
05. Walk Around
06. Yapp City [ft. Trife Da God and Sun God]
07. White Linen Affair (Toney Awards) [ft. Shawn Wigs]
08. Supa GFK
09. Rec-Room Therapy [ft. Raekwon and U-God]
10. The Prayer [performed by Ox]
11. I'll Die for You
12. Paisley Darts [ft. Raekwon, Sun God, Trife Da God, Method Man, and Cappadonna]
13. Shakey Dog Starring Lolita [ft. Raekwon]
14. ! [performed by Ghostface Killah and Rhythm Roots Allstars]
15. Killa Lipstick [ft. Method Man and Masta Killa]
16. Slow Down [ft. Chrisette Michele]

With anticipation levels surrounding Ghostface Killah's forthcoming The Big Doe Rehab fast approaching a boiling point-- particularly since we no longer need divide our anticipation between Big Doe and the Wu-Tang's 8 Diagrams-- Ghost has gone and added some kindling to the fire. Album details, people! Have a look. First, of course, is that classy cover art you see up there, set to adorn copies of Big Doe that Def Jam delivers on December 4.

Next, the tracklist, reprinted in full below. Of note: Kid Capri-featuring first single "We Celebrate" (not just "Celebrate", as reported prior), which samples Rare Earth's "I Just Want to Celebrate"; Raekwon-boosted "Yolanda's House" and "Shakey Dog Starring Lolita" (an epilogue to Fishscale standout "Shakey Dog"!); a pair of tracks featuring Ghostface's tourmates Rhythm Roots Allstars; a track called "I'll Die for You" and another called "!". Then, naturally, there are the guests, including the aforementioned along with Ghost's Wu associates Method Man (as you know), U-God, Masta Killa, and Cappadonna, plus Ghost's posse and More Fish co-stars Theodore Unit, Beanie Sigel, Styles P, and more.


http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/46988-ghostface-unveils-ibig-doei-tracklist-guests-cover-art

First Ghost, now Rae.
Raekwon speaks out on RZA and making the album
http://realtalkny.rawkus.com/2007/11/topic/topic/videos/video-raekwon-talks-about-the-new-wu-tang-album-problems-with-rza/

Cuban Linx 2 is never coming out  :cry:
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on November 11, 2007, 07:12:57 PM
Whose that hottie with Ghostface??  :w00t: :w00t:

But yeah son. Fuckin inbeefs, RZA needs to find some help to lead the ship. EGOS are huge. Everyone claiming they own projects. I guess that's why [MM_Theory]Rae, Ghost, and Mef are the center guys[/MM_Theory]. LMAO look at Deck, looks like Kardi. Mef and Rae are STILL working on new discs.

Went to Method Man show last nite.

(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3973/methcanadakp7.jpg)

Cilvaringz came and opened with DJ Suicide. Oh there was local beatboxers but, fuck em.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/11-11-07_0018.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/11-11-07_0027.jpg)

I'm a be straight, his set was dope. Got the crowd FUCKED UP.
[youtube=425,350]PKZM_GRpcU4[/youtube]

In came meth, all hoodied - delivering classics like "How High" "Tical" -- went into "Da Rockwilder" 4:21 and Tical 0 shit. COME ON COME ON! COME ON!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/11-11-07_0109.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/11-11-07_0116.jpg)

FUCK! I dunno how many times he dived into the audience. Standing on the crowd then DIVE! I managed to slap his arm LMAO
[youtube=425,350]uluO3U8zyYk[/youtube]

Him and Streetlife tore it up with more classics like ... shit I was so stoned, everyone passing blunts.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/11-11-07_0122.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/11-11-07_0127.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/11-11-07_0128.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/11-11-07_0153.jpg)

[youtube=425,350]gi06qXRmgAA[/youtube]

DJ Allah Mathematics
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/11-11-07_0203.jpg)

He ended da show with a tribute to ODB. IF YOU LOVE HIP HOP! SAY ONE! LOVE! ONE! LOVE! lol FUCK DAT SHIT.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/11-11-07_0204.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/11-11-07_0205.jpg)

DOPEST SHOW EVAR. Fuckin Meth is one of the deffest performers around. Diving in and out of the crowd.

Too many wiggaz, I loved it when peoples was doing the Wu sign, some guys did the West Coast sign. whores everywhere. Fuckin hoe grinded up on me and I was like "OK" and her bf like grabbed her WTF! Good thing I had my cru, but I stared him down. BITCHES!

Then a train of hoes filed backstage. LMAO.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/daigong/11-11-07_0208.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on November 12, 2007, 03:28:35 AM
Kanye West's mother died.
Rhymefest confirmed it on a radioshow somewhere.  Its not confirmed, but its been said it was probably because of operation complications. 

Kanye's probably going crazy.  We all know how much he loved his mom.  Really sad news.

R.I.P. Donda West

There' wasn't a video for it, but
Hey Mama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNAR8Gqb1ok
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on November 12, 2007, 06:26:19 PM
Aw nowei Mocha... I read it's cosmetic surgery? :(

I played 'Hey Mama' on HiP HoP Hizzy every Mother's day cuz every homeboy loves his moms. Crushing news indeed, Mista West...DAMN.

(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3370/dondawest1tw4.jpg)

Hey Mama, I wanna scream so loud for you, cuz I'm so proud of you
Let me tell you what I'm about to do, (Hey Mama)
I know I act a fool but, I promise you I'm goin back to school
I appreciate what you allowed for me
I just want you to be proud of me

RIP Mama West.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: mode107 on November 12, 2007, 10:21:16 PM
So sad, "Through the wire" came through my head when I read that news.

RIP Mrs. West
Title: RIP ODB - 3 YEARS
Post by: daigong on November 13, 2007, 06:43:04 AM
HiP HoP loses another artist every few days it seems. The one dat still keeps stinging is the lost of ODB. Dirt Dawg. Dirt McGirt. Osirus. Or simply, Russell Jones.

Can't believe we have lost him for 3 years on this day. I ripped this concert of his from 2004. Includes the funniest interview ever.

(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8498/dirtymrtbv4.jpg)

(http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/5561/odbcongm1.jpg)
(http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/6194/odbintpf4.jpg)

DOWNLOAD HERE

ODB RIP.part1.rar (http://anonymz.com/?http://www.twitter.com/?d=7KX1XQ95)
ODB RIP.part2.rar (http://anonymz.com/?http://www.twitter.com/?d=0LCFWZX5)
ODB RIP.part3.rar (http://anonymz.com/?http://www.twitter.com/?d=95OC2BED)   

Go ahead and share it elsewhere, just don't credit me or jphip :P

Ooh baby, I like it raw....
Title: Re: RIP ODB - 3 YEARS
Post by: Masa on November 13, 2007, 08:19:30 PM
The Big Doe Rehab promo video
http://videovault.morrisvideos.com/videos/ghostface-killah---big-doe-rehab

Wu-Tang Clan - Campfire (preview)
http://sharebee.com/32144f83

HiP HoP loses another artist every few days it seems. The one dat still keeps stinging is the lost of ODB. Dirt Dawg. Dirt McGirt. Osirus. Or simply, Russell Jones.

R.I.P. Ol' Dirty Bastard!
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: num2son on November 13, 2007, 08:30:25 PM
Thanks Masa and daigong  :mon thumb:

Wu-Tang Clan - Life Changes (Could be the Full Version)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/48833052abe45e/
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on November 13, 2007, 10:35:31 PM
Props for the previews Masa :thumbsup Big Doe Rehab is gonna make December EPIC

Life Changes is so chilling...some of em regret not being there for him. GZA was like he's in the same studio rapping his verses where ODB died.

(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4689/olddirtybastardrobesesayp3.jpg)

My fave ODB songs of all time:

1. Don't U Know. Where he
Ooohhh I beg, I beg, Easy on my balls, they fragile as eggs.

2. Shimmy Shimmy Ya - esp. the whole intro. THE FIRST TIME YOU EVER SUUUCCKED MY DICK!

3. Brooklyn Zoo II. With classic "How'd u get so fuckin dark? SUN-TANAMA!!

Yo! You wasn't from Panana!!
I asked you how you get so fuckin dark, you said suntama
He responded so fast, you made me laugh
Ha-ha-ha, HARARRRH scared-his ass! :shakeit:



RIP, ODB. I'm a karaoke his songs in tribute.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: num2son on November 15, 2007, 02:55:52 AM
ol dirty bastard - wastin time no more.mp3 - 1.85MB (http://www.zshare.net/audio/49151568798cce/)
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on November 15, 2007, 06:17:25 AM
^ NICE num2son. Is that the hidden tribute track Masa was talking about?

In case y'all missed it (like me)

VH1 Hip Hop Honors '07

Props to matrixjk  :bow:

Quote
VH1 Hip Hop Honors '07- A Tribe called Quest-Song Medley
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1608/vczyugyn8.th.jpg) (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vczyugyn8.jpg)
http://xirror.com/spread/07-_A_Tribe_called_Quest-Song_Medley.avi.html (http://xirror.com/spread/47802734/07-_A_Tribe_called_Quest-Song_Medley.avi.html)

VH1 Hip Hop Honors '07- Various Artists- A Tribe called Quest Tribute
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9202/1zt7avya3.th.jpg) (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1zt7avya3.jpg)
http://xirror.com/spread/07-_Various_Artists-_A_Tribe_called_Quest_Tribute.avi.html (http://xirror.com/spread/99452039/07-_Various_Artists-_A_Tribe_called_Quest_Tribute.avi.html)

VH1 Hip Hop Honors '07- Various Artists- New Jack Swing Tribute
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3811/20jk3ddvh5.th.jpg) (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20jk3ddvh5.jpg)
http://xirror.com/spread/07-_Various_Artists-_New_Jack_Swing_Tribute.avi.html (http://xirror.com/spread/41981336/07-_Various_Artists-_New_Jack_Swing_Tribute.avi.html)

VH1 Hip Hop Honors '07- Various Artists- Snoop Dogg Tribute
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4818/fc01m9nn2.th.jpg) (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fc01m9nn2.jpg)
http://xirror.com/spread/07-_Various_Artists-_Snoop_Dogg_Tribute.avi.html (http://xirror.com/spread/48819986/07-_Various_Artists-_Snoop_Dogg_Tribute.avi.html)

VH1 Hip Hop Honors '07- Various Artists- Whodini Tribute
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8339/34sfngnut8.th.jpg) (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=34sfngnut8.jpg)
http://xirror.com/spread/whodini.part1.rar.html (http://xirror.com/spread/49235025/whodini.part1.rar.html)  http://xirror.com/spread/whodini.part2.rar.html (http://xirror.com/spread/94143337/whodini.part2.rar.html)


VH1 Hip Hop Honors '07- Various Artists-Wild Style Tribute
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4360/eimg8ei2.th.jpg) (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eimg8ei2.jpg)
http://xirror.com/spread/07-_Various_Artists-Wild_Style_Tribute.avi.html (http://xirror.com/spread/57175021/07-_Various_Artists-Wild_Style_Tribute.avi.html)

VH1 Hip Hop Honors '07-Various Artists- Missy Elliot Tribute
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http://xirror.com/spread/VH1_Hip_Hop_Honors__07-Various_Artists-_Missy_Elliot_Tribute.avi.html (http://xirror.com/spread/23687065/VH1_Hip_Hop_Honors__07-Various_Artists-_Missy_Elliot_Tribute.avi.html)

password: chapes

Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: A1 on November 16, 2007, 02:05:52 AM
Maybe this sounds kind of rude but why is Missy being honored?
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on November 16, 2007, 04:14:39 PM
(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2751/assetha0.jpg)

Tracklist:
1. Iesha Poem
2. Free Chilly
3. Go Go Gadget Flow
4. The Coolest
5. Superstar featuring Mathew Santos
6. Paris Tokyo
7. High Definition featuring Snoop Dogg and Pooh Bear
8. Little Weapon
9. Hip-Hop Saved My Life featuring Nikki Jean
10. Gold Watch
11. Street on Fire featuring Mathew Santos
12. Hello Goodbye
13. Gotta Eat
14. Dumb It Down featuring Gemini and Graham Burris
15. The Die featuring Gemini
16. Put You on Game
17. Fighters featuring Mathew Santos
18. Go Baby Go

Hello Goodbye (live version)
Sendspace (http://www.sendspace.com/file/s9i90a)
Sharebee (http://sharebee.com/3ad9ee49)

The Live version doesn’t sound anything like the actual track on the album folks! That track is incredible, but it’s not for the true hip hop heads though that’s for sure! If you know UNKLE they are more of a experimental/rock group, and that’s what lane that song is in! The pitchfork kids will eat it up though, a true masterpiece. Also, the cheeseburger track - is crazy HOT (i didn’t even know that’s that the song was about when i listened, dude is so smart) The tracklist that is floating around the internet is correct though.

Fiasco Goes High Concept On Sophomore Album

Rapper Lupe Fiasco embodies multiple characters and concepts on his sophomore album, "Lupe Fiasco's The Cool," due Dec. 18 via 1st and 15th/Atlantic. Among the characters are Michael Young History, the Game (described as "a male personification of a hustler's damaging influences") and the Streets ("a female embodiment of an urban area's corrupt allure"). Throughout, dark production by Soundtrakk, UNKLE and Chris and Drop enhances the weighty themes, particularly on "Street on Fire" (about a burgeoning epidemic) and "Put You on Game." Among the few guests are Snoop Dogg, who turns up on "High Definition," while Fall Out Boy's Patrick Stump serves as the producer of "Little Weapons."

A number of tracks diverge from the conceptual theme, including "Gold Watch" and "Paris Tokyo," on which Fiasco longs for a simpler life atop a jazzy backing track with shades of A Tribe Called Quest. Perhaps the oddest song is "Gotta Eat," which is apparently written from the perspective of a cheeseburger and is rife with food/life metaphors. Fiasco makes at least two allusions to quitting the music business after one more album, "L.U.P.N.," but he ends "The Cool" on an up-tempo note with "Go Baby Go." "Congratulations ladies, this one's for you," he says. "The Cool" is the follow-up to last year's "Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor," which spawned the Grammy-nominated single "Kick, Push."


http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003672989

Quote from: Child Rebel Soldier
Lupe Fiasco’s The Cool - Cast of Characters

Lupe Fiasco (star/narrator/writer/director)
Born: 1982
Birthplace: Chicago, Illinois

Biography: Born Wasalu Muhammad Jaco, Lupe Fiasco is a rarity in today’s record industry – an artist more concerned with creating timeless, not timely, music. After years of false-starting label deals and mixtape dominance, Fiasco broke through the mainstream’s shield in early 2006 with “Kick Push,” a breezy skateboarder’s ballad that only hinted at his lyrical wizardry. Such verbal gifts became crystal clear on his critically lauded debut, Lupe Fiasco’s Food & Liquor. Having brushed with fame while admirably maintaining his integrity, Fiasco is now taking his substance-over-style approach to new, conceptual levels on his sophomore effort, Lupe Fiasco’s The Cool.

Cool Points
- In 2005, Fiasco delivered a scene-stealing verse on Kanye West’s hit single, “Touch The Sky.”
- Fiasco was nominated for three Grammy Awards—Best Rap Solo Performance (“Kick Push”); Best Rap Song (“Kick Push”); and Best Rap Album (Lupe Fiasco’s Food & Liquor).
- In addition to the Grammys, Fiasco was also honored at the 2007 BET Awards (Best New Artist nomination) and 2007 Soul Train Awards (Best New R&B/Soul or Rap New Artist nomination for “I Gotcha”).
- His most nominations came at the 2007 BET Hip Hop Awards: Hip Hop CD of the Year (Lupe Fiasco’s Food & Liquor); Hip Hop Video of the Year (“Kick Push”); Rookie of the Year; and Element Award – Lyricist of the Year.
- Through Atlantic Records, his homebase, Fiasco launched his own company, 1st & 15th Entertainment. His first artist (outside of his own projects) will be Gemini.
- In January 2006, Fiasco signed a deal with Reebok. As part of the footwear/apparel company’s “O.G.” campaign, he designed his own sneaker.
- GQ Magazine named Fiasco as the “Breakout Man of the Year” for 2006.

Michael Young History
Born: March 2006
Birthplace: Every Hood, USA

Biography: Since his early childhood days, Michael Young History was conflicted. Raised by a single, hard-working mother, History never really knew his father, a man who abandoned both History and his baby sister. This lack of paternal guidance turned an otherwise intelligent, promising boy into a drug-selling, money-grubbing Scarface-wannabe. Starting off as merely a petty crook, History’s torrid affair with his mentor’s (Game) wife, The Streets, sent him on a downward spiral of greed, deception, and, ultimately, death.

Cool Point
- An unabashed atheist, History anointed his own “holy trinity”—himself, Streets and The Cool.

The Cool
Resurrected: Amongst the undead since September 2006
Birthplace: Six feet under the Earth’s surface

Biography: The Cool is the physical manifestation of History’s debt to humanity. Payback for every user abused and every family torn apart by History, The Cool walks amongst the living as a zombie. “He” – that term used lightly, considering The Cool isn’t human – reeks of death, an ironic contrast to his polished three-piece-suit appearance. Searching for his purpose, The Cool haunts The Streets.

Cool Points
- His only possessions—two diamond earrings, a gold chain, and a letter from History’s eight-year-old sister.
- Despite the long-finished settling of rigor mortis, the sharp sensation of three bullets constantly causes aching in The Cool.
- Only one thought plays in his head like a broken record – “Hustler for death, no heaven for a gangster.”

The Game
Born: Given life the moment the snake suckered Adam and Eve
Birthplace: The Garden of Eden

Biography: An immortal, soulless entity, The Game scours city blocks and country landscapes with equal menace. Scheming from morning until night, he changes targets like the wind – hustlers, politicians, celebrities, and impressionable youth have all succumbed to his charms. His most valued accomplice is his wife, The Streets. Together, this “Bonnie and Clyde” duo have affected the lives of every man, woman, and child. The victim closest to their affections, however, was Michael Young History, a tortured man seeking acceptance through fame and fortune. Of course, nothing from The Game comes without a price.

Cool Points
- Quite convincing, his foolproof method of touching minds is through blunt fingertips.
- Through his wire-tapped ears, he’s able to hear the approaching of any enemy.
- When not hovering over common society, he lives behind bars, plotting ways to see his son, Heroine, and secretly conversing with his marital lover, The Streets.
- Despite carrying out such heartless actions, The Game does have a blood-pumping system – an amplified system pumping beats through woofer-like veins.

The Streets
Born: Conceived thousands of years ago, when the first paths and roads were paved.
Birthplace: Unknown

Biography: A temptress like none other, The Streets possesses an uncanny knack for seduction and betrayal. An equal opportunity heartbreaker, she exudes an allure irresistible to both men and women. Some have accused her of pedophilia, having lured people into her tangled web at ages as immature as eight years old. The word “love” isn’t in her vocabulary –although The Game is her admitted soulmate. Yet, The Streets has always felt a peculiarly strong connection with Michael Young History.

Cool Points
- Often referred to by her condemners as a “demon in a dress.”
- No stranger to loss, she’s tattooed the names of her murdered ex-boyfriends across her breasts.
- Her ambitions are clear upon eye contact, with dollar signs in the place of her pupils.
- Witnesses to History’s slaying reported seeing brown, almost Hennessy-colored tears roll down The Streets.

http://childrebelsoldier.wordpress.com/2007/11/13/lupe-fiasco%e2%80%99s-the-cool-cast-of-characters/


Ghostface Killah feat. Beanie Siegel & Styles P - Barrell Brothers
Sharebee (http://sharebee.com/ce1e18d6)
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on November 17, 2007, 06:55:56 AM
The Cool.  I'm really liking these concept albums.  Highly anticipated
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on November 18, 2007, 05:22:28 PM
Wu-Tang "8 Diagrams" is coming...
[youtube=425,350]lE2eLopAX1s[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on November 19, 2007, 02:20:51 AM
^ SHIT WTF lol

Kanye West Paris Concert Breakdown; Kanye West Cries During First Concert After Death Of Mom

[youtube=425,350]fnc0YnOB60k[/youtube]

Kanye West returned to the concert stage Saturday night, and the hip-hop heavyweight broke down in tears while a playing a sold-out concert in Paris. Kanye was attempting to introduce the tribute to his late mother, Dr. Donda West, at Le Zénith in Paris, saying “this song is for my mother….” and could get no further broke he began crying. His fiancee Alexis and her son were with him.

“He just cracked,” one attendee tells PEOPLE, “He was at the end of his concert and had just started to dedicate the song and then he just lost it completely.”

“He said the word, ‘Mother’ and just couldn’t go any further,” Le Parisien journalist Meddy Magloire reports. “A back-up singer, the DJ and a guitar player came over to console him. It looked like he might collapse. He just couldn’t continue. He just stood there in a spotlight, crying while the band continued playing.”

“He was very nervous, seemed to have gathered himself up, and had a lot of energy,” Magloire says. “He kept shouting out to the audience, ‘I need you… I need you right now.’ and the public was screaming back. It was magic.”

Source: Hip hop Crunch (http://hiphop.popcrunch.com/kanye-west-paris-concert-breakdown-kanye-west-cries-during-first-concert-after-death-of-mom/#more-4392)

I feel ya Kanye. I feel ya... :cry:
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: num2son on November 20, 2007, 10:09:06 PM
^ NICE num2son. Is that the hidden tribute track Masa was talking about?
No dont think so, that song was on a mixtape

These are three new songs from the 8 diamgrams album these came from the Wake Up Show (radio rip)

wu-tang clan - stick me for my riches edit ft. gerald alton.mp3 - 4.16MB (http://www.zshare.net/audio/5042003170dc5c/)

wu-tang clan - windmill.mp3 - 4.07MB (http://www.zshare.net/audio/50420951992641/)

wu-tang clan - wolves edit ft. george clinton.mp3 - 4.05MB (http://www.zshare.net/audio/50421845d83a53/)
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on November 21, 2007, 05:24:42 PM
More new Wu-Tang songs!

Wu-Tang Clan - Rushing Elephants
http://sharebee.com/761bcc1e

Wu-Tang Clan - Starter
http://sharebee.com/767a8f87

Wu-Tang Clan - Unpredictable
http://sharebee.com/b07c8085
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on November 22, 2007, 08:47:19 PM
For those who don't have it yet

Saigon - Moral of the Story Mixtape

http://www2.evilshare.com/79cdd7b0-e93f-102a-a517-00a0c993e9d6
http://rapidshare.com/files/71112724/Saigon-The_Moral_Of_The_Story-2007-WR_INT.rar

And he's already quitting rap...

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Cunninglynguists - Dirty Acres (retail)

 CunninLynguists - Dirty Acres


        Label................: Bad Taste Records
        Genre................: Hip-Hop
        Store Date...........: Nov-27-2007
        Source...............: CDDA
        Size.................: 62,1 MB
        Total Playing Time...: 46:15

        Release Notes:

        All Tracks Produced By Kno.... (DJ Kno is sick)

     01. Never (feat. Big Rube)                                         03:06
     02. Valley Of Death                                                  02:36
     03. Dirty Acres                                                        04:02
     04. Kentucky (Interlude)                                           00:50
     05. K.K.K.Y.                                                            02:19
     06. Wonderful (feat. Devin The Dude)                          03:27
     07. Yellow Lines (feat. Phonte & Witchdoctor)               04:56
     08. The Park (Fresh Air) (feat. Chizuko Yoshihiro)           03:18
     09. Summer's Gone                                                   01:49
     10. They Call Me (Interlude)                                       00:44
     11. Gun (feat. Sheisty Khrist)                                     03:14
     12. Dance For Me                                                     03:20
     13. Georgia                                                             03:51
     14. Things I Dream                                                   04:18
     15. Mexico (feat. club Dub)                                        04:25

http://www.twitter.com/?d=2Y7RN0WT
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ip6fzq
http://rapidshare.com/files/71346058/Cunlyn-DirAcr.rar
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on November 23, 2007, 08:55:45 PM
pretty funny
Rap represented in mathematical charts and graphs.  You can click on the chart to see what song they're referring to.
http://jamphat.com/rap/
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on November 24, 2007, 05:16:55 PM
(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2691/7xy0vg2je8.jpg)

Quote
Wu-Tang Clan - 8 Diagrams
Rls Date : Nov-24-2007
Street Date: Dez-07-2007
Rls Type : Album
Company : edel
Genre : Hip-Hop
Source : CDDA
Tracks : 16

Encoder : LAME 3.97 V2: preset standard
Quality : VBRkbps / 44.1kHz / Joint-Stereo
Bitrate : avg. 173kbps

01 Campfire 03:59
02 Take it back 04:12
03 get them out ya way pa 04:18
04 rushing elephants 03:01
05 unpredictable feat dexter wiggle 04:12
06 the heart gently weeps feat erykah badu dhani 05:37
harrison and john frusciante
07 wolves feat george clinton 04:16
08 gun will go feat sunny valentine 04:15
09 sunlight 03:22
10 stick me for my riches 06:08
11 starter feat sunny valentine and tashmahogany 04:13
12 windmill 04:31
13 weak spot 03:58
14 life changes 07:21
15 tar pit 04:57
16 16th chamber o.d.b special 02:45

http://rapidshare.com/files/71901906/WTC8DR07MOD.tar

 :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on November 24, 2007, 06:01:09 PM
HOLY SHIT!!!! O0

Props homes!!! The most anticipated album OF THE YEAR IS HERE!!!
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: RatBastich on November 24, 2007, 06:30:28 PM
Thanks for the hookup, Masa. :thumbsup

Some real hip-hop in this day and age instead of all that cookie cutter, no talent bullshit thats being played these days.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on November 25, 2007, 05:01:56 PM
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!
I waited for the album to come out to really listen to everything.  Meth is all over the album!  I wonder why Ghost isn't on Life Changes.... =(

Anyways, some albums that are going to be Overshadowed by the Wu =P

Beanie Sigel - The Solution

(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/9227/beaniesolutioncvrqt2.jpg)
01. All Of The Above Ft. R. Kelly 4:14
02. Bout That 3:31
03. You Ain't Ready For Me Ft. Styles P 3:18
04. Go Low Ft. Rock City 4:30
05. Gutted Ft. Jay-Z 4:07
06. Pass The Patron Ft. Diddy, Ghostface Killah And Peedi Crakk 3:33
07. I'm In 3:12
08. Hustlas, Haze And Highways 3:57
09. What They Gon Say To Me 3:43
10. Judgment Day Ft. Ozzy Osbourne 3:35
11. Rain (Bridge) Ft. Scarface And Raheem Devaughn 5:37
12. Dear Self Ft. James Blunt 3:18
13. Prayer Ft. Raheem Devaughn
http://www.zshare.net/download/5151469b7b89d4/

Wyclef Jean - The Carnival II: Memoirs of an Immigrant

(http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2488/clefcarnivalel9.jpg)
1.Intro
2.Riot (Feat. Serj Tankian & Sizzla)
3.Sweetest Girl (Dollar Bill)(Feat. Akon, Lil Wayne & Niia)
4.Welcome To The East(Feat. Sizzla)
5.Slow Down (Feat. T.I.)
6.King And Queen (Feat. Shakira)
7.Fast Car (Feat. Paul Simon)
8.What About The Baby(Feat. Mary J. Blige)
9.Hollywood Meets Bollywood (Immigration)(Feat. Chamillionaire)
10.Any Other Day (Feat. Norah Jones)
11.Heaven's In New York
12.Selena(Feat. Melissa Jimenez)
13.Touch Your Button Carnival Jam(Feat. Will.i.am, Melissa Jimenez, Machel Montano & Daniela Mercury
14.Outro
15.On Tour (Feat. Lucina) [Bonus]
16.China Wine (Feat. Sun, Elephant Man, & Tony Matterhorn) [Bonus]
http://www.zshare.net/download/512915607330dd/

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Raekwon & RZA Settle Differences
The argument between him and Rae was just some disagreement. They settled it four days ago. Rae thought the music was too worldly. He wanted a more Punch You In Your Face type album. While RZA’s view was more like we already did that with OB4CLII, which is coming after this. They had to just trust RZA on his view, which even took GZA sometime.

In bigger news RZA responds to the allegations of money taking. He claims to have never taking money from anybody. He has paid all his bills and has no debts. And Rae’s comments had hurt him right in the gut. A bigger press conference thing is coming.
Listen here:

http://www.divshare.com/download/2877790-eb9
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: cool_kickin_dude on November 25, 2007, 09:58:01 PM
hey guys, do they still have that Wu-Tang mixtape? I still haven't got it yet and would love to hear it..

MASA!!! Once again you make my day! How do you do it? XD
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: num2son on November 27, 2007, 02:10:40 AM
hey guys, do they still have that Wu-Tang mixtape? I still haven't got it yet and would love to hear it..

http://sharebee.com/1b5f6a50
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Mugen on November 28, 2007, 08:10:33 AM
Redman keepin it real O0

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jyC5dqQvVjc
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on November 28, 2007, 05:22:12 PM
Big Dough Rehab

Listen to the Clean Version
http://music.defjam.com/www2/av_play...&cms_site_id=1

interview with miss info.  he gives a track by track breakdown.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVGuBNDJhkA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGlcmZK8mx0

This is the clean version Download.
01. (00:01:06) Ghostface Killah - At the Cabana Skit (Feat. Rhythm Roots Allstars)
02. (00:03:02) Ghostface Killah - Barrell Brothers (Feat. Beanie Sigel & Styles P)
03. (00:03:13) Ghostface Killah - Yolanda's House (Feat. Raekwon & Method Man)
04. (00:04:13) Ghostface Killah - We Celebrate (Feat. Kid Capri)
05. (00:03:32) Ghostface Killah - Walk Around
06. (00:03:40) Ghostface Killah - Yapp City (Feat. Trife Da God and Sun God)
07. (00:04:07) Ghostface Killah - White Linen Affair (Toney Awards) (Feat. Shawn Wigs)
08. (00:03:39) Ghostface Killah - Supa GFK
09. (00:03:14) Ghostface Killah - Rec-Room Therapy (Feat. Raekwon and U-God)
10. (00:01:24) Ghostface Killah - The Prayer (Feat. Ox)
11. (00:03:06) Ghostface Killah - I'll Die For You
12. (00:05:37) Ghostface Killah - Paisley Darts (Feat. Raekwon, Sun God, Trife Da God, Method Man, & Cappadonna)
13. (00:03:44) Ghostface Killah - Shakey Dog (Starring Lolita) (Feat. Raekwon)
14. (00:03:38) Ghostface Killah - Killa Lipstick (Feat. Method Man & Masta Killa)
15. (00:02:36) Ghostface Killah - Slow Down (Feat. Chrisette Michele)
http://rapidshare.com/files/72795708/ghost.rar

EDIT

Ghostface Killah - Big Doe Rehab (Dirty Retail)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/3bogrq
http://rapidshare.com/files/72951418/GhoKil-ThBiDoReh.rar
http://www.twitter.com/?d=LJ3L1SJX
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on November 29, 2007, 06:56:13 AM
Props Mocha for da big doe rehab!!

Been listening to 8 Diagrams. I gotta feeling this ain't the official product. RZA's verse in "Life Changes" had wack production.

But yeah...they don't even have video yet. They're not even on tour and they cancelling dates. When are they gonna be on some big awards show? TRL? or some shit.

Wu-Tang Clan's RZA Insists Infighting 'Evaporates' When Crew Is Together


Rapper/producer also talks ODB-inspired new track featured on group's 8 Diagrams.

By Shaheem Reid, with reporting by Jasmine Dotiwala

"How can hip-hop be dead if Wu-Tang is forever?" the RZA asked over the summer. A few months later, some fans are asking if his sentiments will continue to hold true.

To the dismay of Wu-Tang fans, the Clan seem to be falling apart, and RZA is in the proverbial eye of the storm when it comes to the group's open dissention. Two of the group's most vocal, flamboyant and popular members, Raekwon and Ghostface Killah, have accused the RZA of mismanaging the group's money and creative malpractice.

Rae told New York radio personality Miss Info that he and the crew craved more street-oriented beats on the new album, 8 Diagrams. Meanwhile, Ghost told MTV News that the album was "rushed," he hasn't heard good word-of-mouth about the handful of records that have leaked and, most importantly, the RZA owes him more dough than they have at your favorite pizza shop.

While others in the Clan have remained silent, one thing is for sure: The unity the group showed during the summer on the Rock the Bells Tour with Rage Against the Machine has been absent. Two weeks before what was once proclaimed to be the Clan's triumphant return December 11, the biggest buzz around 8 Diagrams has been about the group's infighting. Rae and Ghost have denounced it. There is no official single, let alone a video, and the group's promo run to push the album has been reduced to RZA telling his side of the turmoil and dragging his name out of the mud.

"It's really all good, it's just different directions," RZA told U.K. radio DJ Tim Westwood, in an interview posted online Monday. " ... Everything is back [to] peace already."

While in the U.K., the RZA also rebutted claims that he owes group members any money. "I ain't never take no money from nobody, and I don't owe nobody no money," he yelled. "Don't never say that. I pay all my bills. I work hard and pay all my bills."

In an interview with MTV Base last week, the RZA said that any discord the Wu may have is only temporary. "Over the years some of us have grown in doubt, or maybe some of us have grown creatively in different directions," he said. "But I will say that when we do come together, a lot of things just seem to evaporate. When we get on the stage together, we can have a problem 10 minutes before we get onstage. But once we're onstage, we feel like everything evaporates.

"When you read on the Internet that Ghostface is upset that his album is coming out the same day as the Wu-Tang's album, that's because after the tour, Ghost was gone for two or three months into his own world [and] we went back into our own world," RZA added. "So nobody was in synergy of what's really happening and that's what makes the problem. You've got to build every day. ... I can honestly say, though, we did come together to do this record, and it was recorded without money. Nobody got any money in the beginning to do this record — we worked the deal out later — but to sit down and do it, we were still negotiating, but every MC came to the table. Method Man came to that studio, his lawyer called him up [and said], 'Meth, don't go to the studio.' But he came. I think Method Man gave one of his most vicious, most hungriest performances in years on this album. U-God was the first one to come to the studio and said to me, 'You know brothers are trying to say that your production is on left. Let me hear what you got, brother.' I start playing the music and he was like, 'Man, we're going to be on fire. This is beautiful.' When he said that he loved the music I was producing, I knew I was on the right track, because he's the one that that really will say, 'F--- you.' I took it on face value that we all came because this is what we believe in. Now I think it's a little different, because all this flak is popping up, and it's like, 'Wow, I thought we were all on the same page.' "

That unified sentiment was the inspiration for the album's title, 8 Diagrams. RZA was watching a kung-fu movie almost 15 years ago, and the light bulb turned on. "There was a movie called 'Eight Diagram Pole Fighter,' which features a group of brothers all fighting for their country," he explained. "Their loyalty to their country and their loyalty to each other really struck a nerve to me, and when we first formed Wu-Tang Clan, we actually was called Brother Number One, Two ... Brother Number Five — that's originally how we did it. As time went on, we just took different names and abandoned that idea. For me, it's time to bring that idea back in effect, and that's what the 8 Diagrams is helping to do."

Musically, RZA's beats on 8 Diagrams were inspired by everything from the Beatles to his very own cousin, the late Ol' Dirty Bastard.

"The way I produce now is I produce more like a musician," RZA said. "In the old days, I produced more like a DJ. I didn't understand music theory at all. Now that I do understand music theory, I make my music more playable, meaning not only could you listen to it, you could get someone else to play it. Before, you couldn't even write down Wu-Tang music. I think almost 80 percent of this record can be duplicated by a band, which is important for music, because that means 10 years from now, somebody can make a whole song out of it and cover it like how I'm covering the Beatles song."

RZA's good friend, DreamWorks Records exec Michael Ostin, let the famed producer know that the Beatles' George Harrison wrote "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" and Eric Clapton played guitar on the classic song. When RZA decided to redo the record, Ostin also tipped him off that Harrison's son Dhani was a huge Wu fan and would probably clear the record. Not only did the young Harrison give his sign of approval for the new interpolation — the Wu used the composition sample, not the master sample, as they did not receive permission to use the original songs as heard on the Beatles LP commonly referred to as The White Album — he played acoustic guitar on it for the RZA. Then Erykah Badu was brought in to sing vocals after Corinne Bailey Rae bowed out.

"When I heard this song, 'While My Guitar Gently Weeps' ... I made this big [drug] metaphor of my own," RZA said of the Wu's version, "The Heart Gently Weeps." "It's my own imagination. I got Method Man and Raekwon to give me the illest verses. Ghostface delivered one of his best verses in years. To me, that verse is comparable to the verse on Wu-Tang Forever's 'Jamie.' I heard his best spirit in it."

You can feel the spirit of ODB on "Life Changes." The Clan pay tribute to their deceased brother, expressing how they feel about his tragic loss. " 'Life Changes' I named it because the hook is kind of saying I go through life changes," RZA said. "But really, life does change after you lose somebody so dear to you. Your whole life can change. Maybe the grass is not green anymore. Maybe the spring does not feel like the flowers are there anymore because you don't have that person there to share it with you. That's one thing that I truly miss about ODB. I think I said it in my lyric: 'It's hard to live without you.' "

"Take It Back" and "Get 'Em Out Ya Way Pa" are probably 8 Diagrams' best examples of vintage Wu wolf music — that means fans will wild out as soon as the tracks come on. But RZA insists the album isn't all about wolf music.

"I was so aggressive and so unfriendly to people at one point, and now I feel like I'm good," he said. "I can sit here, I can talk to people, I can shake hands. I feel like I'm a mature man. I think it's important for me and my crew. It's not all about making music to punch people in their face. [I want to be] making music to inspire people to stop punching each other in the face."

But how big can Wu be with a more mature, worldly sound?

"I think we're bigger than we used to be," RZA said. "I see 19-year-old kids in the audience, and I don't know how they know my music, but they're jumping up and down singing my lyrics. We did shows in 1997 — the biggest audience I've seen in front of the Wu-Tang Clan was 30,000 kids with their 'W' way up in the sky. I was real proud of that: 'Wow, we've made it.' On this last summer tour, I saw 70,000 kids do it, 100,000 kids. I mean, the biggest crowd was 115,000. So it's bigger. It's just not popular in the media. And the funny thing about that is, when Wu-Tang came out before, it wasn't popular in the media. The media totally missed it. By the time they got it, it was already platinum. I think it may happen again: By the time certain people get it, it's going to be already over here. I'm not worried. I'm feeling very confident. It's not really about the record sales, either. Record sales don't really measure the bigness or magnitude of the person. MC Hammer is the best example. He sold more records than all of us. But who wants to talk to MC Hammer?"

ROFL, source: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1575174/20071127/wu_tang_clan.jhtml
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on November 30, 2007, 04:39:27 AM
dang, so much albums are coming out!  Still got Lupe's the Cool!

Hi-Tek : Hi-Teknology 3
http://www.mediafire.com/?0byvbzxls3d

Styles P - Super Gangster extraordinary Gentleman
http://rs6.rapidshare.com/files/72913564/Styles_P_supergangster.rar
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on November 30, 2007, 05:36:37 AM
Exclusive: Ghostface Q&A

A decade ago, the Wu-Tang Clan and Ghostface dropping new music within a week of each other would have been cause for a national hip-hop holiday. Unfortunately, in 2007, it only heightened tensions between Wu members already bickering about everything from compensation to the musical direction of the group’s upcoming album, 8 Diagrams. Rhapsody had a chance to sit down with Pretty Toney while he was promoting his seventh album, Big Doe Rehab. We got his thoughts on the inspiration for his ghetto stories, on G-Unit's Tony Yayo’s claims that Ghost may not be the author of Supreme Clientele, and on where things currently stand with the RZA and the Wu.

RHAPSODY: When you’re telling stories like “Maxine” or “Alex (Stolen Scripts),” are they inspired by real-life experiences?

Ghostface: When I hear a certain type of music, it brings certain things out. I’m an artist. I’m a real poet. Whatever the beat makes me see, I’ll go write. It might sound like a murder. It might sound like a real snowy day, or kids having fun in the snow. It might sound like “The Sun.” “Maxine” was a true story. It was based upon what happened with fiends in the projects. Crackheads is funny. They be doin’ all types of dumb s**t. You gotta watch ‘em. They sneak things from you.

What’s the dumbest thing you’ve ever seen a crackhead do?

Just anything. These m*th*rf*ck*rs dance for crack. Some of them do anything you tell ‘em to do. M*th*rf*ck*rs spin on their head on concrete for a f*ck*n’ rock.

So when you’re constructing a story like “Maxine,” how long does it take to write?

Sometimes it takes a long time. It depends on how much you keep going back to it. I might write a page and then don’t go back to it for like two weeks or three weeks. It just depends on what comes that day.

What was it like collaborating with Mobb Deep on classics like “Right Back at You”?

That was early days. I don’t remember none of that sh*t. We were just in the studio. I think they had that sh*t already done and we just came and tagged on it. I wasn’t there when [Big] Noyd finished it off. Also, somebody else was on it from Staten Island. N*gg*s cut ‘em off, and put me and Rae [Raekwon] on. It was my man. I don’t want to put him out there or blow him up, though. It was one of the dudes they were f*ck*n’ with at the time.

Did you have a relationship with Hav and P before that? There were a lot of Wu-Mobb collaborations early on in your careers.

No, it was just being cool. We heard that beat, liked that beat, and it was like, "Yo, let us get that space.”

In a recent interview Tony Yayo said Superb had written Supreme Clientele.

Yeah, I was in Europe when I heard that. That’s just nonsense. I still put mad sh*t out. ‘Perb was ‘Perb, Ghost was Ghost. ‘Perb is Rae’s man. He been in the studio a few times while we’re doing sh*t. He ain’t write sh*t. All ‘Perb contributed was a couple of lines that you could put in the air. When we write, we all do that. “Say this one right here” or “Put this one right here.” We all catch lines with each other ‘cause you in the studio. You got n*gg*s around you that write. Even if he did write a verse, he could never make an album of mine. He couldn’t make an album, you feel me? I made Supreme Clientele what it is. Those are my stories, based around whatever they’re based upon. It’s me. I can’t see what songs ‘Perb wrote. He ain’t write “Mighty Healthy” or “One” or “Apollo Kids” or “Cherchez LaGhost” or “Saturday Nite” or “Malcolm.” But, Yayo can suck a fat d*ck. Tell him I said that.

Do you still work with Superb?

Superb been in jail for like four or five years. He started getting high and one day he tried to steal my DAT with all the songs from Bulletproof Wallets. N*gg*s f*ck*d him up. We knew he had it. He was being sneaky. I don’t know what he was trying to do with it, but he had it. That’s that, though. It’s like with Yayo, I don’t know what the f*ck he talkin’ about.

Sean C and LV produced six songs off your new album including “We Celebrate.” What led to them doing so many tracks?

They worked on “Momma” off Fishscale. They had a lot of nice [beats]. I [had] said to myself I was going to go hard on my next one. ‘Cause you never know what the fans want. They trick you. Once you give ‘em this, they don’t want that because they looking for this. For me, I had a hard time selling records. So it’s like, “You know what, f*ck all this other sh*t. Let me just go for what these people know me for and go hard.”

Did you like the tracks they did on American Gangster?

American Gangster is cool. As a matter fact, I did have one of those beats on one of my [beats] CDs, but I never used it. I think it might have been the Marvin Gaye-sampled “American Dreamin’.” For whatever reasons, I ain’t pick it. Maybe I didn’t see the vision at that time. That’s what happens.

Shifting to the upcoming Wu album, how would you say the music on 8 Diagrams measures up to classics like “Da Mystery of Chessboxin’”?

Could never match up. You crazy?!

Raekwon recently had voiced his displeasure with 8 Diagrams’ musical direction. Are you happy with how the album came out?

That s**t is wack. I heard RZA was changing some of the beats around the last minute. I didn’t hear that. I don’t know what y’all listening to out there. I never heard it. I’m with Raekwon.

Both you and Rae had spoken about being owed money by the Wu hierarchy. RZA stated in an interview with Tim Westwood that he doesn’t owe anyone money.

I just won my court case from them n*gg*s. The suit been in there for three years. So put that out there. They just lost their f*ck*n’ case. So who don’t owe who money? Let’s get it straight, RZA. That’s all I’m sayin’, baby. It was a loss, they lost. L-O-S-T. That’s really it.

How you and RZA’s relationship now?

I don’t see RZA, man. That n*gg*’s real sneaky. I love him, though. Ain’t no bad blood. Ain’t nobody doing no bad to him. It’s just that you can’t get money with a n*gg*.

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2007/11/exclusive-ghost.html


SOHH Exclusive: Ghostface "Isn't Co-Signing" New Wu-Tang CD, "It Ain't Come Out Right"

Veteran rhyme slinger Ghostface Killah has once again re-emerged and is ready to drop more jewels with his latest effort, The Big Doe Rehab. In his usually colorful form, Tony Starks chopped it up with SOHH about how Wu-Tang Clan's comeback disc almost came out the same day as his new album, the Clan's beef with Rza and taking his family to rehab.

After dropping More Fish last December, Ghost went back to the lab and cooked up his 7th solo disc, The Big Doe Rehab, an album that he says took it's own turn and detoured a bit from his original vision.

"It was supposed to be, more or less, it's me again," Ghost explained to SOHH. "I was gonna do the album by myself but as time went on, I started to hear Rae[kwon] on a few of the tracks and ni**as wanted to get on. They wanted to be a part of it. Then I started to go back and see where I could fit everybody in. I started to think, like, where I could put Meth[od Man], where I could put U-God. I already knew where I wanted Rae to be so, it just kinda worked like that."

In addition to his Wu brethren making guest appearances on the set, Ghostdini also linked up with New York staple, DJ Kid Capri, on the disc's lead single, "Celebrate." The single has been gaining momentum leading up to the CD's December 4 release date, the same date that Wu-Tang's album 8 Diagrams was originally slated to hit shelves, before moving to the following Tuesday (December 11). Seeming to be a conflict of interest, Ghost explained that he was not budging on the date, no matter who was dropping.

"I've had that date since like last June and the Clan album was supposed to been came out," Ghost said of the possible showdown. "It was supposed to drop in August, then October and I guess it wasn't making the deadlines or whatever, and it was like, what the @#*$ are ya'll doing? I kinda felt like I was being sabotaged."

"Rza and Divine didn't want me to drop this year," Ghost added. "They wanted it to be all about the Wu and it seemed like a lot of funny sh*t was going on. They were trying to act like it was going to hurt me [to drop on the same day.] I'm like, c'mon man, I'm comfortable with my project. I don't give a @#*$ when my album drops. Whenever it drops, it's going to be solid."

The Wally Champ also took time to shed some light on the Clan's seemingly ongoing beef with crew leader RZA.

"Rza ain't listening," Ghost revealed. "He wanted to make [8 Diagrams] how he wanted it and it ain't come out right. He wanna always do the whole thing himself, produce the whole album. We're like, let's bring in some other producers too. Bring in Kanye, bring in Pharell. You ain't gotta do the whole thing yourself. He wanna make his own instruments and @#!* and it sounded real horrible."

"So now it's like when fans come up to me like, 'Ghost, why you let them put that out,' it's like nah, we ain't taking the blame for that," Ghost continued. "That's what Rae was saying. We ain't co-signing that. It's like, the game is different. It's not how it was 10 years ago. We're trying to tell him, you can't just put a Wu-Tang album out and just think it's gonna sell just because. We been gone for what, six years? It's hard to win new ni**as. A lot of the fans now was in @#*$ing diapers when we first started doing this. That's why a ni**a like me drop every year. I stay relevant."

Ghostface's The Big Doe Rehab hits shelves on December 4 via Def Jam Recordings.

http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/13111
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: hide321 on November 30, 2007, 04:33:58 PM
I love Ghostface, but I disagree sorely on his assessment for 8 Diagrams.  Still...Ghostface is that dude :pimp:
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: aKaoNi on November 30, 2007, 09:45:45 PM
Former Jay-Z Associate De-Haven Tells His Side

De-Haven Irby is a onetime drug dealer and former friend of Jay-Z’s from Brooklyn’s Marcy Houses projects. He came out swinging against the emcee in a series of YouTube videos (see above) released in August and September, accusing him of turning his back on the people who helped make him famous and exaggerating his gangster credentials. Jay fired back on the song “No Hook” from his new album American Gangster: “Fuck De-Haven for cavin’, that's why we don't speak,” he raps. “Made men ain't supposed to make statements. End of the story, I followed the code, cracked the safe. Other n****s ain't in the game so they practice hate. Leave that boy Hov alone, why don't ya.” Irby, 38, is now promoting a forthcoming book and DVD, which he says compile testimony from other disenchanted former Jay associates. He spoke with Vulture about what Jay was like in grade school (not much of basketball player) and their time living together (they shared women and got the drip). Jay declined comment through a Universal Music publicist.

In the video for his new hit single “Roc Boys (And the Winner Is),” Jay talks about a crew of Marcy hustlers called the Roc Boys. Were you a Roc Boy?

I have no idea what a Roc Boy is, actually. I guess that’s something new that they’re coming up with now. There was no crew back in ’88; it was just me and him, so I don’t know how he got “Roc Boys.”

How did you and Jay meet?

We lived in the same building, on the same floor in the Marcy projects, and we went to [elementary] school together. He was a year ahead of me.

What was he like back then?
He was hanging with some “school”guys. Nerds! We didn’t get together actually until after the fifth grade, in intermediary school. We played baseball and basketball. He wasn’t tough on the court at all. He didn’t like physical ball. He was the same type of guy then as he is now, just a cool guy. He wasn’t no bully, he didn’t start no trouble.

Did you and Jay sell drugs together?

No, he ain’t do much selling drugs. I did all that work. He was just a good dude to be around. He was one of my best friends. I taught him some things, but I mainly kept him from being out on the street a lot. Whatever was mine was his. So, we shared clothes, we shared a whole bunch of stuff. We had sex with the same women plenty of times. We both got burnt! We had the drip. My mom took him to the clinic. My mom also got him out of jail.

Does Jay exaggerate his drug-dealing in his songs?
I’m telling you he overexaggerates. He was there to see things, but doing some big-time Frank Lucas–type thing? No. He nickled and dimed, but nothing on a major scale. He definitely didn’t sell nothin’ in Marcy. Spanish Jose, who he mentions a lot [in his songs], was a friend of mine. Jay didn’t have no affiliation to Spanish Jose.

You’re saying Jay appropriated your story?
He says it himself. He’s been talking about me since day one, on a lot of his albums. He mentioned me on The Black Album, and I hadn’t seen him in years.

After Marcy, the two of you headed to Trenton.

Yeah. I wasn’t going to school. My basketball coach in high school recommended me to go to Trenton High, which had a great basketball program. I moved to Trenton in ’88, and it was just like an open drug market out there. I couldn’t even focus on the basketball when I saw that market. So I got settled in there. I went back to New York and talked to Jay. He wasn’t doing nothing, he didn’t have no money in his pocket, he wasn’t feeling school, neither, so I asked if he wanted to come live with me. We moved in with my aunt, who accepted him as my best friend. In Trenton he started dipping into his music with Jaz-O, so he wasn’t much around, because he had to get back and forth to the studio, which I was funding. I was supporting [his career] with everything I could do. When he needed more people in the crowd, I provided more people in the crowd. When he needed security, I provided security. I supported my dude!

When did the two of you have a falling-out?
We never really had a falling-out, that’s the problem. This is why I’m so confused. There was no argument, there was none of that. I don’t want an apology [from him], I want a reason. What happened? When my case [a federal drug-conspiracy charge] came in 1998, I never seen him again too much anymore. The case had nothing to do with him, his name never came up, so I’d like to ask him, “What happened?” Where did his departure come from?

When he talks about you on “No Hook,” is he accusing you of snitching?
I think he’s talking about the way I went about this YouTube project [and not about snitching]. But he’s into subliminal messages, so [I think] he’s trying to get me hurt. That goes beyond disrespect. He’s getting my safety involved. I can’t believe my own daughter’s godfather is trying to get me hurt. But it won’t work. Being that I’ve been in prison a lot of times, a lot of people know my credibility. They know I went all the way to trial with my federal case, and I won.

One of Jay’s former collaborators Jaz-O also has beef with Jay, and former drug dealer Calvin Klein also accuses Jay of appropriating his story.
Me and Jaz sat down and had a long talk not too long ago. Jaz has a right to have a beef. Jaz was there in the beginning. Jaz took him away from the projects and put him in the studio first. Big Daddy Kane had a lot to do with his career too, and he’s not showing no kinda love to him neither. With Klein, if Jay told him he “got him,” then Klein got a right to be mad.

Do you want money from Jay?
Not now! We went beyond that. I was hoping from the first YouTube that we could sit down and discuss this like men. But he didn’t go that route.

Have you seen any financial benefits from this project so far?
No, but I’m looking to see that off of this DVD and this book. They’re about a lot of things that we’re talking about. A lot of people come forward, verifying what I’m saying. In the book I go into full detail about [my] case, about, when I did see Jay, what we talked about. It’s full of details.

Will they be self-released?
Right now, everything is still in the works. I have two major companies which are doing a little bidding war. I might just do something independently if they don’t come up with the proper numbers. —Ben Westhoff

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/11/former_jayz_associate_dehaven.html
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: num2son on December 01, 2007, 05:09:58 PM
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1. Wu-Tang Clan - Take It Back (Edit)
2. Wu-Tang Clan - Take It Back
3. Take It Back (Instrumental) (Intro)
4. Wu-Tang Clan - Take It Back (Instrumental)
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on December 03, 2007, 07:06:23 AM
Snoop Dogg - Sensual Seduction
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Snoop is back, fo' shizzle!  :lol:

Fatlace RZA Interview

We don’t just have The RZA’s vinyl killer killing records, we have a brand new RZA interview for that ass as well. Trust us, he doesn’t shy away from discussing the internal beefs that have cast a shadow over the release of ‘8 Diagrams’. And before you become one of those internet idiots wasting time writing, “Yo, ‘Big Doe Rehab’ kills ‘8 Diagrams’”, grow the hell up - you can have both…

FL: Is there a guiding theme for the new LP?

RZA: Yes, in my opinion. The first song on the album is called ‘Campfire’ and that sets the tone for the guiding theme. It’s called ‘8 Diagrams’ and straight away you hear the 8 precepts that he’s saying. What the intro is saying is what I feel we need in the world for men. It’s saying, ‘how can I be a good man?’

FL: Is it difficult to bring that into the Wu, with there being so many different competing elements?

RZA: It is kinda difficult sometimes. But as the producer of the group, and The Abbot – I didn’t make myself The Abbot, this was a title that was given to me by the other Wu-Tang members. So you gave me the title, you gave me the power, I’ll use it. But I’ll use it not just for my personal benefit, not just for their personal benefit, but for the benefit of what the Wu-Tang stands for. Wu-Tang is not just about us, it’s about the world. Somebody asked me the other day, ‘when you make solo albums and soundtracks and the Wu-Tang album, what’s the difference?’ On my solo album, it’s my duty to make sure I convey the solo artist’s feelings to the world. Doing movie scores or a soundtrack, I have to take that film and the director’s vision and make sure I satisfy their vision. But on a Wu-Tang album, that belongs to the world. That’s something I’ve learned myself and I didn’t learn that until 1998 and that’s when I went and did an album called ‘The World According to RZA’. In 1993, if you’d have asked me about hip-hop, it belonged to me. I didn’t care about anybody else – ‘Bring Da Ruckus’, ‘Wu Tang Clan Ain’t Nuthin’ to Fuck With’, ‘Protect Ya Neck’ – I wasn’t playing! But as I grew up, and I’m seeing black kids, white kids, Mexican kids, Indian kids, I’m seeing a rainbow coalition and realising it’s bigger than me. Some kids came up to me recently and they weren’t even around in 1997 for ‘Wu-Tang Forever’ but they got it and the guy was like, ‘Yo, I learned so much knowledge from that record. Just the references you make, that I cross-referenced.’ It helped enhance his own spirit and knowledge. That’s what it’s all about – Wu-Tang has become a source of information and not just about our ghetto and our roughness and our toughness and our personal entities, but a source of information for people to get their own thing and move on. So when I do Wu-Tang I don’t it for myself, I do it for the world.

FL: So do you think someone like Raekwon needs to remember that he’s only 1/8th of the group?

RZA: I just read a little book of interviews that the GZA did in Germany, and when I read it, he just says so many things that make sense. He says that when he does his own projects, he gets to go into his own world, but when he’s with the Wu, he’s 1 piece, and that’s better because no 1 member is stronger than the whole group. I was happy to hear that not just come from me.

FL: Are those tensions harder to control now, given that all the members have their own fanbases and degrees of stardom?

RZA: In a way it does but, really, Wu-Tang started with tension. Some of the guys were not as close to each other as they have become. Ghostface and Raekwon are considered to be Batman and Robin, but they were enemies in the neighbourhood. Ghost was my man and Rae was my man. There’s another guy, Oli ‘Power’ Grant who runs Wu-Wear, him and Rae were partners, and Ghost was the enemy. I’m talking about mortal enemies. But they were always real tight with me. My house was neutral – people would always put their guns on the table, to use a metaphor. And when they left, there’s no telling what would happen. Now recently Power was telling me I had to do something, as he was pretty upset about the Ghost comment. Me, I don’t like to get into it like that, but he said that it wasn’t time for the Uncle shit I’d been doing through the years, it’s time to say something and it’s important for people to know what’s been going on and where I stand at. And he told me, ‘14 years ago when you told me to swallow all that beef with me and Rae and Ghostface, I swallowed it, but the day you arranged a meeting between us, I had my gun’. He was ready not to swallow it until he saw me. I didn’t even know it was that close. Mind you, Ghost is a superhero – you’re not gonna catch Ghost. Ghost will beat 5 or 6 n****s by himself, I’ve seen him do it. He ain’t scared of nobody, never has been, never will be. The point I’m making is, it’s not like we started out without tension. People don’t know that U-God and Method Man had hand-to-hand fights until we had to throw them off the bus. You know, there was a lot of shit. Me and Ol’ Dirty fighting because he wanted to go to Def Jam but I’d done the deal with Elektra. I had the plan for what I saw was right.

FL: Well, in the early years, Wu-Tang was described as a dictatorship with a five year plan. After that, you took your hands off the reins. Do you regret doing that?

RZA: Well, I won’t say I regret it, because you can’t regret life, but I do see the difference. Right now I guess I’m putting the reins back on by having the final word on the Wu, and now I’ve got to face what Raekwon’s saying about not getting to voice an opinion. Well, you did have a chance to voice your opinion, you just had a time limit to voice your opinion. I’ll listen to what people have to say, but after a certain time the vote is in.

FL: What did you make of Raekwon calling you a ‘hip-hop hippie’?

RZA: Now I don’t like the word hippie. When he said it, I thought, ‘Hippie? I’m the most Hip-Hoppest sexy beast in the world!’ I stay hip-hop, I never even changed over to the other side of hip-hop, the bling side. I kept it hoodie and a pair of boots – you always see me like this, and I could throw on the best of the best. It offended me a little but, at the same time, Raekwon’s the slang master, so I ain’t taking it like he meant to shit on me because I know he’s so rich with his words.

FL: Does the glare of the internet, where there’s always a camera pointed at you and a way of disseminating it, make it harder to keep the Clan together?

RZA: It’s harder, I would say, because you can say something on film, and then change your mind 20 minutes later. That’s why you’ve got to be careful. Me and Raekwon had a conversation about the record – he gave me his opinion, gave me his vote. He didn’t give me a bad vote, he gave me a 7. I’ll take a 7 from Rae, because his 7 might mean the fans give me an 8 or 9, but I’ll go back and try to get an 8 from you. So I went back and I changed a few things. I put the song ‘Unpredictable’ back on there. I’d taken it off as it was a bit Bobby Digital and I didn’t think we needed a Wu song with me talking about my dick. So I had to go back in and make it more amicable. So I sent that version out and people said they liked it more. GZA gave it an 8. When I first asked him, I knew he was being kinda sarcastic, but he said, ‘I give it a 5 and a half’. I was like, ‘Whoa’, but I never argue with him ‘cause he’s my teacher. So I had to humble myself to that. I tried to tell everyone, ‘Don’t take one day on this shit, take two weeks. Listen to it, this is not a quick fix. This is not a hamburger, this is vegetables. I know you don’t like to eat your vegetables, but you’ve got to, to get the nutrients.’ So then he came back to me with an 8 after I re-did things.

FL: Do you feel the pressure of a ‘comeback’ album?

RZA: It’s a continuation. The Wu-Tang saga continues. It’s not a comeback because we’ve all been active in all forms of entertainment. Also, we did tours without records being out, and I’ve seen bigger crowds the last two years than I’ve seen in my life. When we toured with Rage Against the Machine this year – and they haven’t had an album out – you’re seeing 70,000 kids each night in New York. In San Francisco, it got so crazy the police had to come. We’re bigger than ever, with no record out. That shows how important we are, how it’s about more than us telling our drug stories, our life stories, our turmoils. It’s about us adding a little wisdom, a little spirituality, a little consciousness, a little brotherhood. We’ve always had brotherhood, with all our other crews. And sometimes the Clan members are mad about that, maybe it’s because of having 8 famous guys, you’ve got 100 famous guys. But one thing I explain to them is that we saved our neighbourhood. More than that. We saved our neighbourhood in Staten Island, we saved parts of Brooklyn where Dirty, Prodigal Sun and Killah Priest lived, we saved Ohio with Killarmy, we saved a lot of families. It all comes back down to that one kid who walked around Staten Island for months – and people thought I was crazy because I used to walk and think and talk. I always say walk. Jesus walked across the Middle East teaching people. You get so much inspiration and knowledge from walking and thinking. So I walked around Staten Island until I got an epiphany. It took me a while to get it, but once I got it, I had it. I knew what I wanted to do. I went to Ghost first and said ‘Wu-Tang Clan’. Then it started to spread and other neighbourhoods were hearing about us. Some people were acting like they weren’t with it, because they didn’t like the Chinese shit. Guys like Pop the Brown Hornet wanted to make it GP Wu, because they were the Gladiator Posse from Stapleton and Park Hill was called DED Posse – Dick ‘Em Down. I combined ‘em both to Wu-Tang but those two neighbourhoods stay at war, although I had ‘em at peace. There were some guys who were on that ghetto shit and weren’t fucking with the Wu. And then when we blew up, they were like, ‘Yeah, we’re Wu’. And they were, I was bringing everybody. But they went separate. Even Shyhiem. Shyhiem was my student, but he went with GP, and GP wasn’t pure in the heart like that so they disintegrated. Had they been pure, and realised I had a vision, they would have got further. That’s what I was trying to tell the Clan on this album – trust me. Right after the ‘American Gangster’ premiere, we had this meeting, and I think it’s the meeting that triggered Raekwon’s comments. This meeting felt pretty deep for me. I invited everybody to the premiere, the only ones that showed up were Method Man and Inspektah Deck. That hurt me. They gave me 20 tickets – they didn’t gave anybody else 20 tickets – because I wanted to bring the Wu. I felt disappointed because I felt it would be a real good look for all of us to come together. So we had a meeting, and everybody starts voicing their opinions. And I wanted their opinions, because I wanted to see if I could satisfy the crew. I said, ‘If y’all ain’t satisfied, it’s gonna fuck me up.’ Harsh words were going back and forth. I had to come hard. I said, ‘Y’all have been making records without me for 6 years, and the shit ain’t go nowhere. The shit didn’t sell nothing.’ And then they’re saying, ‘Your shit has been weak’. My shit has been weak? ‘Kill Bill’? I’ve been involved in a lot of good things. But I wasn’t gonna front, I said, ‘Without connecting with you, my stuff has never had the high standard that it’s been with Wu-Tang.’ But it’s not that they’re not dope MC’s, and I’m not a dope producer. When we’re apart, it’s cool, but when we’re together it’s great. We don’t know why it’s great. Who knows why peanut butter and jelly taste so good together? They weren’t made for each other, but put them together and kids go crazy. We have a special chemistry that we don’t even know, but the people accept it for what it is. I was telling Meth, come back and rock with the Wu. I checked out his solo shows, 2000 people here, 1500 people there. Raekwon show, 700 people, maybe a1000 there. I know they don’t need me and I don’t need them, but wouldn’t they rather be seeing 10,000 motherfuckers in front of them when they’re rapping? After all these years, you want to rap in front of 500 motherfuckers? When you do Wu, you get the opportunity to rap to the world. You might only get 5 lyrics out, but they’ll be remembered by the whole world. All of the solo albums we’ve got out, nobody knows the lyrics like that. I don’t even know their lyrics. This new album got me listening to their lyrics again, and I realise how dope they all are. I was trying to explain to them, sometimes we don’t realise what it is we’ve got, but we’ve got it and we should never, ever doubt it. But Raekwon walked out not convinced, I guess.

FL: How was it recording without ODB? Did you miss his spirit?

RZA: Oh, we definitely missed his spirit. I saw Meth got asked the same question in an interview, and he was like – I only ever saw him in the studio one time anyway. It was hard for me. When Dirty first came home from jail, after all the shit he’d been through, and I was working on the Masta Killa album, ‘No Said Date’, making a few beats, he heard that album and said, ‘Out of everybody in the crew, Masta Killa is the only one that’s still Wu-Tang’. He wasn’t tainted. And I told Masta Killa. He got his name because Masta Killa is the guy who wasn’t part of Shaolin, he came to Shaolin and went through all the training in 36 Chambers, and became the Masta Killa. He saw us as his teachers. So I said to him that he’d become the best student. And then Raekwon’s mouth was healing, and right about the time he did ‘State of Grace’, he was back. If you ask me, Rae’s the illest MC. To my ears, Rae is fucking up any rapper out there, but he went through a transitional phase because his voice had gone. Having Genius on a track like ‘Starters’, talking about women – he doesn’t usually do that – he got a little ODB in him.

FL: There must have been a lot of emotion in the studio recording ‘Life Changes’.

RZA: Oh yeah. A lot. Meth was the first to do his verse. But I never got a verse from Ghost, which I think would have been deep because he knew Dirty for years. Me, Dirty and Ghost was running around from 1989 to 1993. That was the team…

http://fatlacemagazine.rawkus.com/?p=670

GZA - Real Talk

Jon Michael: The Wu-Tang album drops in a couple of days, you excited about that?

GZA: Ummm, I’m aight, I’m kinda excited. I never really got all hyped about album releases. It feels good though. I’m happy to get back on the road.

-Are you happy with how the album turned out?

I like it, yea, I like it. It’s growing on me more and more. The more I hear it, the more I like it.

-When Raekwon spoke out and said he wasn’t really feeling the album, was he speaking on behalf of everyone in Wu-Tang?

Nah, he was speaking for himself. I mean, that was Rae speaking. There's always room for improvement. Personally, I feel I could have done better on the album but you have to consider the time it took to put it together.

-Raekwon also mentioned that he may have had some issues with money. Did you ever experience that?

I’m not even gonna get into all that. Raekwon was speaking for himself. That’s my brother just like RZA is my brother and I won't go against that. Raekwon does represent us as a group also. Maybe he had more concerns among other thing that the other members or his beef went to a different extent.

I’m not gonna go against that. I don’t air out problems, when it comes to my family. If I have money problems I deal with it. There are always problems with a group or family but that’s with everybody.

-Your debut album Liquid Swords solidified you as one of the Wu’s best lyricists. How did you feel when you were putting that together?

I felt good and that was because I was coming’ off a disappointing moment. Previously things weren’t so good. I was on Cold Chillin’ and the record got no promotion so I got another deal and it was a good time because Wu-Tang was blowing up. It felt good. Everyone was coming through the studio, the whole vibe was great. It was a good feeling.

-Do you consider the era you come out of as the Golden Era?

I wouldn’t really call it the golden era; I mean we were around in the golden era. I mean it is. We as artists and lyricists consider the golden era to be like 85,86,87,88. That’s the golden era. You know maybe Biggie, Jay-Z, and Wu. That was another era, the platinum era (laughs).

-Wu, Nas, Jay Big, all dropped around the same time. You see any similarities between you guys?

I would say our sounds were different which was a good thing. That’s the golden era. I think that’s what great about the golden era was that there was so much material and it was all different. Nas was different from Mobb Deep, Mobb Deep was different from Wu, and Wu was different from Jay. Everyting was different, not like today were a lot sounds so much the same. We didn’t have musical relationships but maybe in other ways like the way we laid it down. The way we entered the business and capitalized off certain thing but musically, so different.

-How do you feel about hip-hop today?

I don’t really listen to a lot of stuff. I might hear it if I have the television on or if I'm listening to the radio and something comes on in the car or what other people are playing in the streets, that’s how I hear it.

-And do you like any of it?

The majority of it? No. Every once in a while ill hear something that’s catchy.

-Are there any new MC’s that you check for?

Nah, nah, nothing really grabs my attention but hip-hop is like that. It’s changing, it’s forever changing. Its music that started in the streets, in the basements, something that was a hobby and we're the biggest selling music to this day. It’s the only music that’s recorded in almost every languge. There's no other music like that.

-Do you feel politics play a big part in today’s music industry, even moreso than when you first came into the game?

Of course politics always have a hand in something. They’ve been involved from the earliest days. They had a spot on 20/20 about hip-hop in 1980 or 1981. Barbara Walters was like, how long will it survive? That was politics they were downplaying it in a sense but politics go way back even to the days of like Ice-T with "Cop Killer".. Politics played a part then. Politics played a part with Snoop and C.Dolores Tucker. It’s playing a part now with the "N" word. The more money that's being made the more politics is gonna be a part of it

-How do you feel about Nas’ use of the ‘N’ Word for his upcoming album?

He's entitled to it. Nas is a poet man, he's a great lyricist, he's a poet, and he makes great music. I will always take time to listen to what he has to say and make sure you quote me on that. He has done so much for hip-hop just with the songs he’s recorded. He's one of the greatest. He’s always doing more good than any bad. He could call it what he wants to because he has a reason just like when he said 'Hip Hop Is Dead'. In a sense it was dead and I’m sure he has his own definition. He may have felt that way and if he calls his album that then he has a right to do that. Why make a big deal now?

The thing with politics is they see rappers and they think they get too much money or it’s a lot of ignorance being spread. Richard Pryor had an album called That n****'s Crazy" in the 70’s, a comedian album, it wasn’t a big deal then, so why now? Why wait till rappers start wanting to use a word to jump down on it, big deal.

I’m not saying it should be a word that should be out of the youth’s mouths every 5 words or every sentence. Whats funny is that those same politicians use the word. I’m pretty sure Al Sharpton uses that word on a regular basis. I’m pretty sure he does. I use other words; I don’t use too many negative words or profanity. I don’t make a point of it, its just not in my writing and hasn’t really been since Liquid Swords. I just choose to use other words; there are over 100,000 words in the dictionary.

It's funny though because to me that word can be used like if I see a cat in an alley, I'll be like, 'Where that n**** go?', 'That n**** went under the car!'. I mean that’s how it is. I also think we should use other words because there are people that are offended by it. That was a name given by slave masters but now that we chose to accept it, they wanna stop us from using it, it’s a bunch of bullshit. What ever happened to freedom of speech?

-Do you feel hip-hop is dead?

Sometimes I do and sometimes I don’t. Sometimes I feel it’s at a point where it needs help. It’s not dead, that means no longer here or no longer around. I don’t wanna contradict his statement because I see where he’s coming from. How could hip-hop be dead if Wu -Tang is forever? Nas made some good points though. A lot of MC’s are brilliant in their own way. They're smart and clever but their subject matter isn’t there.

I’m gonna say 95 out of 100 rappers don’t speak in their natural voice. Its like I gotta do this just because. They’re not playing this at the club or they’re not playing this on the radio so we need to make a club banger or we need a street song. Music has to be made from what we see.

Music should be like drawing where you just do what you see. You should be inspired by something. You might be inspired by a great story. American Gansgter might inspire you but you’re whole life story doesn’t have to match that. Its all the same, 'I got a gloc, I’m in the spot'. It’s all said in the same way. You can reword it.

-Do you prefer independent labels or majors?

Ups and down pros and cons. It all depends how you're looking at it. I could be on a major and sell 500 thousand and make a lil' money or I could be indie and sell 100 thousand and make a lot of money. It depends on your situation, what your deal is worth, if I sell 200 and I’m getting 8 a record I’m caking up. It's all how you're deal is structured. On a major it’s not always like that. I’ve put out albums that didn’t see the light of day but it depends. Sometimes you should be on a major. You might get good exposure.

Indie is the thing today, which is good because it gives you the power to get an album done and put it out. It cuts out red tape, cuts out the middleman. At an indie it's like, here's the money what do you wanna do? You don’t have to go through a lot of people.

Its cool lately in the last 6,7,8 years its been a lot of cool artists that have been doing it independent and having great success. It’s a funny business. Like I could sell a million on a major then sell 400 and get dropped, then ill sell 200 independent and the majors will come back with a lot of money.

-You’re on an independent label right?

Yeah, I'm doing a project with Babygrande. I saw an ad out there where it’s promoted as a GZA album. I'll probably be on most of the tracks but its supposed to be a compilation album, there’s various artists on the album. That’s almost finished and then I’ll start working on another GZA album with RZA.

-When is that going to be dropping?

Sometime next year we don’t even know yet but we have options.

-What else can we expect to see from you?

I’m working on a few things. I have a graphic novel, I been working hard over the summer with. It should be coming out soon. I have some ideas for a second novel; I’m building the foundation. I’m into scripts and novels. I like film, I want to knock out a couple of films and let RZA score it and then throw out the soundtrack too. It doesn’t stop you could look forward to hearing some great projects coming from myself in the near future.

-Anything you’d like to say to the fans?

8 Diagrams, December 11th , if you don’t have it by the time you’re reading this.

http://www.sixshot.com/interviews/9042/
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on December 03, 2007, 07:19:04 AM
LMAO that snoop video is the gayest thing ever.

WU-TANG is forever. They just branching too much. Everyone's acting and doing they own shit. Got their own units. I have a feeling this is gonna be a "The W" - "Iron Flag" thing. We'll get another Wu album after this tour.

Big Doe Rehab is dope. Who knew Ghost was gonna go rock.

And big ups to num2son!! Take it Back is my ring tone atm. 8)

Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on December 03, 2007, 05:35:21 PM
LMAO that snoop video is the gayest thing ever.

That video and these lyrics prove that rap is quite possibly the gayest genre ever:
(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6091/dec200742bv4.jpg)
No Homo!  :lol:
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on December 04, 2007, 07:52:48 PM
Damn....

Rapper Pimp C Found Dead in Hollywood Hotel Room

Pimp C, real name Chad Butler -- and one half of the rap duo UGK, was found dead in a hotel room this morning. He was 33. L.A. County Fire responded to a 911 call at the Mondrian Hotel, located on trendy Sunset Strip in Hollywood. They arrived to his sixth floor hotel room to find him dead in bed. UGK is best known for appearing on the Jay-Z track "Big Pimpin'" in 2000, and more recently with Outkast on the song "International Player's Anthem (I Choose You)." Pimp C had just performed with fellow rapper Too Short at the "House of Blues" in L.A. on Saturday night.

http://www.tmz.com/2007/12/04/rapper-pimp-c-found-dead-in-hollywood-hotel-room/

Spice 1 Shot While Sleeping In Car, Rapper In Critical Condition

Bay Area rapper Spice 1 was shot in his car during the early morning hours of Monday (December 3). SOHH has learned that the rapper (born Robert L. Green, Jr.) is reportedly in critical condition. The incident took place around 12:30 a.m. in the 26000th block of Chiplaw Ave. in Hayward, Calif. Lieutenant Reid Lindblom of the Hayward Californina police, spoke to SOHH about the shooting. "The victim was asleep in his car, parked in the driveway of his house when an unknown suspect apparently came up to the side of the car and [shot] him in the chest," Lindblom said. "The victim indicated that he was asleep and became aware of somebody standing next to the car." Other reports have said Spice 1 was shot twice, but police confirmed he was actually only struck once.

Police say a motive is still unclear but investigators have been assigned to the case. "It's premature to say that there are no leads because I'm sure there is some evidence," Lindblom said. "Investigators are talking to people in the neighborhood ...we're working on it. It's an open and active case." Spice 1 is a legend in the Bay Area who stepped on the Hip-Hop scene in the early '90s. He has a discography of more that 15 albums, three of which went gold on Jive Records. His most recent album, Thug A$$ociation, was released independently and dropped in May. The disc features B-Legit, Roger Troutman and C-Bo.


http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/13137
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: aKaoNi on December 05, 2007, 04:59:15 AM
Yeah I saw the news....... RIP Pimp C.

International Player's Anthem Video (http://www.thahighlife.com/muz/InternationalPlayersAnthem.avi) & Song (http://www.thahighlife.com/muz/UGK_INTERNATIONAL_PLAYERS_ANTHEM_I_CHOOSE_YOU_CLEAN.mp3)

Classic.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on December 05, 2007, 06:26:31 AM
Video interview with RZA, Deck and U-God:
http://www.kotorimag.com/

Ghostface feat. Beanie Sigel & Styles P - Toney Sigel A.K.A. The Barrel Brothers
[youtube=425,350]81lp_HVMH-0[/youtube]

Ghostface Killah: Iron Manual

Ghostface aka Paisley Fontaine goes in on his style, vision and that other Wu-Tang Clan album. Chances are a above average rapper will drop a solid album or two or three, some good, some not so good, and call it a career. When it comes to Ghostface Killah, the odds are a bit better. Dennis Coles, party member of that band of merry rappers calling themselves the Wu-Tang Clan, has dropped multiple classics (Ironman, Supreme Clientele, and don’t forget the guest starring role on Raekwon’s Only Built 4 Cuban Linx…). Add to that exceptional albums like Fishscale and The Pretty Toney Album, and Tony Starks sports one of the strongest musical catalogs in Hip-Hop.

Whether his latest venture achieves the renowned status of his early masterpieces is a matter of time. Don’t bet against him, though. While the Clan’s once impregnable armor has been nicked by infighting, lack of focus and at times plain subpar material, Ghost Deini has remained consistent enough to at times single handedly keep the Clan’s iron flag waving. Dropping heater after heater, whether it be his own solo work, via scene stealinf guest spots or sharing the mic with his Theodore Unit squad, Ghost never fails to get busy. Now with a lucky seventh album added to the discography, The Big Doe Rehab, we take a look back at some of Ghostface’s winning plays.

AllHipHop.com: How did “Can It Be All So Simple” come together?

Ghostface Killah: It was the beat, the Gladys Knight sample and sh*t. I don’t know, I just went in. I was writing to it one night, I think Rae laid down his [verse] first so I had to come behind him. Whatever I said on that verse, that’s how I was feeling. “I wanna be in the shade plus spotlight, getting my d*ck rubbed all night.” I just had a vision. I just saw myself living and just being happy on can it be all so simple sh*t. The struggle and just trying to get away from the struggle.

AllHipHop.com: Heads really felt that track, is that what led to you being so prominent on Only Built 4 Cuban Linx…?

Ghostface Killah: Yeah, you know cause me and Rae out of the whole team—a lot of us was in the street, though—but me and Rae could relate to a lot of…street sh*t. So that’s why when we did Cuban Linx it just blended so well. We from different projects but we could relate to the same sh*t. I was a fly ni**a, I like a lot of fly sh*t. He was a fly ni**a. All that, with the chemistry and the way ours thoughts went it was just real good. So that’s why Cuban Linx turned out to be how Cuban Linx was.

AllHipHop.com: What about “Criminology”?

Ghostface Killah: I was in San Francisco when I wrote that verse. RZA had played some beats [and I was like] play that sh*t. I don’t know if it was a tape or CD back at that time. I just wrote what I had to write to it and when it was time to do Cuban Linx we just used that.

AllHipHop.com: What made y’all go so hard on the hard white rap when no one had been doing that much before?

Ghostface Killah: We trendsetters man. We set trends and we do what we do. That was the year for it. All that f*ckin’ Scarface sh*t and all that other sh*t, we just felt like that, ya know? We being like three years into the game. We all came up off that coke and all that other sh*t. Brothers was still getting busy while we was still making records. Ni**as is still moving whatever we had to move on the side and still doing sh*t. We was in our prime, we was 25 years old. At that peak back in them days right there, it’s like you seeing a lot. B*tches and parties; we was always get fly ni**as so we had all that; leathers on, Wallys on, Lo, Tommy Hil. It was the perfect f*cking time. That’s just how me and Rae do, especially for those times.

AllHipHop.com: Then Ironman comes with joints like “Fish,” that you still perform.

Ghostface Killah: “Fish” and “Black Jesus,” and “260″ was [some] of my favorites off the Ironman album. “Fish” always stood out. The beat was mad chunky. I like how Rae and Cappadonna had came off on it. I just like that joint. It was back to the Cuban Linx chains again, where we left off. It was more or less the beat more than anything. It’s just chunky.

AllHipHop.com: Now before Supreme Clientele, you dropped a similar style with “Cobra Clutch”.

Ghostface Killah: “Cobra Clutch” was abstract, an abstract joint. People get me twisted and sh*t. See I created a style when I did “Nutmeg” and “One” and all the other sh*t. I was in Africa and I was like, “Yo I’ma make a rhyme not meaning nothing.” Just put words together but what the sentence might mean, might not got nothing to do for nothing. I did it on “Nutmeg” and I the first verse on “One” and all the other sh*t. People started getting me confused. Like, “Damn I don’t know what he’s talking about.” But it wasn’t meant for you to know what I was talking about cause it was just a style that I created. So people f*cked around and got caught. Yeah, I don’t know what he talking about and this and that and a third.

Rap to me is universal, you can play with the sh*t and whatever whatever. I just wanted to be the first n**** to make a rap that way. So when I did “Cobra Clutch” and “Nutmeg” and “One” and all that, if you look at the rest of my songs on a lot of other albums, it’s not like that, ya feel me?

I don’t want ni**as to get it twisted cause I can get busy. That’s what “Cobra Clutch” was. It was something in those kind of chambers right there. I could have came and wrote ill darts but those days I was just f*cking with sh*t.

AllHipHop.com: What was up with “Careful (Click, Click)” off of The W?

Ghostface Killah: Umm, it was alright. Them n****s killed it on “Careful”. I came in at the last minute trying to write whatever I could hurry up and write. I couldn’t really get my sh*t off on there. But RZA wanted me to do 4 to 8 bars on the sh*t.

AllHipHop.com: Word? A lot of heads feel differently.

Ghostface Killah: Yeah but I wasn’t satisfied with my own work. Even when you see it live, when it gets to my part I tell them to cut it. I don’t feel like singing that sh*t.

AllHipHop.com: On “Careful” Donna says “big doe rehab” is that where your new album’s title comes from?

Ghostface Killah: That’s where he said the big doe rehab, on that one? I thought it was something else.

AllHipHop.com: He said “Stab you with the vocab, catch me at the big doe rehab.”

Ghostface Killah: It’s not where it really comes from. But when it came to my attention one time that Donna said it but I don’t know, it’s just a coincidence. When the vision came to me of the Big Doe Rehab…maybe subconsciously that sh*t could have been in my head, ya feel me? I had half the songs before the Big Doe Rehab name. I just wanted to name that cause of the way my album cover is and the way I start the first skit off before the music comes in, it’s some really get money sh*t. It just all kind of coincided.

AllHipHop.com: Then “Theodore” on Bulletproof Wallets introduced your new team.

Ghostface Killah: Yeah, I introduced Trife and them ni**as and that was it. I got a lot of songs tooken off of Bulletproof Wallets. I believe if I would have kept “The Sun” on it and I would have kept “The Watch” on it and a few other joints on there it would have been a classic. Up there with Supreme and Ironman. But based on samples and you couldn’t use certain sh*t, I had to deal with whatever I was dealing with.

AllHipHop.com: Y’all went in, how did “The Watch” come together?

Ghostface Killah: I always wanted to use that [Barry White] sample. I think I might have been dusted when I was writing that sh*t. Caught a few bars and I just finished. I was out there in Florida with Rae. At first it was just my record that I was doing but then I wanted him to jump in on it with me. That’s why you hear him at the last little bit, playing the watch, the same watch.

AllHipHop.com: Then you came with “Run” and the set off anticipation for your new Def Jam look.

Ghostface Killah: “Run” was one of RZA’s beats. When I heard the beat is made just want to write something because it was so fast. As soon as the beat came up, “You I jumped from the 8th floor step,” before I even titled it “Run”. Cappa had a joint on his album called “Run” too, which to me was way more liver than the one I did. It was just one of those things. Saw Jadakiss out there in Miami, he wanted to do something. He’s an ill ni**a too [and I was] like] you know what let me see if you can go ahead and just smash this “Run” sh*t out right here, follow suit. It took him a while but he did what he had to do and we went in.

AllHipHop.com: Now Fishscale had a bunch of joints, but what’s up with “Shakey Dog”?

Ghostface Killah: Again, that’s the beat, the beat made me do that. It’s the first lines you catch. I said something about starting uptown, somewhere around there, I forgot how the verse started. I winded up with my man and we all scheming and we trying to rob something uptown for some coke or whatever whatever whatever, he f*ck around and shoot a couple of ni**as in the spot, he get blasted. So that just led me to go to the to be continued.

So when I got to the Big Doe Rehab, [”Shakey Dog Starring Lolita”]. Lolita she’s the niece of the ni**as that [were] killed in the spot and she a bad b*tch from out there, from the Medellin cartel out there where Noriega and them ni**as was getting his coke from and all that. She come get at the kid. A few bodies was found around my way and one of them ni**as was my man Frankie that she f*cked around and killed. Lolita is part two of the “Shakey Dog.”

AllHipHop.com: You ever seriously considered writing movie screenplays?

Ghostface Killah: Yeah, yeah cause I write like I write movies. It’s all like a movie. Of course. My stories is like movies man, that’s how I like it. For people to see my vision.

AllHipHop.com: Are you and MF DOOM still working on your joint album?

Ghostface Killah: Not as of right now. He still got a bunch of songs that we recorded. So I guess after we catch more free time after I finish this project, the Cuban Linx II with Rae or we going to do the Shaolin Vs Wu-Tang sh*t or whatever whatever, after I get all that out the way I’ll go back to DOOM and finish off another seven songs and we can drop that.

AllHipHop.com: So Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang, a Wu-Tang Clan album without the RZA, is actually going to happen?

Ghostface Killah: Whatever Rae want to do right now, it’s on him. I know he wants his Cuban Linx II out. So whatever we going to do, we going to do so it’s on me. Yeah, as of right now he was willing to pursue it. It’s whatever, I know how things be changing and sh*t.

AllHipHop.com: What’s you relationship with RZA now since Rae had some words about not feeling the tracks on 8 Diagrams?

Ghostface Killah: Ni**as still love RZA. It’s just that…he just did a few f*cked up things. The album could have been a little more better, but I guess to each his own.

AllHipHop.com: Alright, appreciate the time Ghost.

Ghostface Killah: Alright no doubt. Motherf*ckers be asking me some real dumb questions man, ni**as be getting on my nerves with that bullsh*t, but this is probably the best one I did all day.

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Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on December 05, 2007, 08:10:04 AM
^ lol one man army, eh? Props. I'm a check this shit out.

WHOA ... RIP Pimp C. Yet another rapper gunned down.

Anyone heard Kardi's 'Kill De Dance' -- his myspace (http://www.myspace.com/kardinaloffishall) hasn't been updated in ages.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on December 06, 2007, 06:09:30 AM
ITS JUDGEMENT DAY! COME ONNNNNNNNNN!
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Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: sazabi on December 06, 2007, 08:51:27 AM
gotta love meth. i'm glad he came correct on 8 diagrams, he actually seemed motivated again.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on December 06, 2007, 07:21:06 PM
Kanye West, Amy Winehouse, Foo Fighters, Jay-Z, Justin Score Big Grammy Nominations

Everyone figured there would be two names dominating this year's Grammy Awards nominees: rapper Kanye West and troubled songstress Amy Winehouse. And Thursday morning (December 6), when Akon, Fergie, Linkin Park's Chester Bennington and Mike Shinoda, the Foo Fighters' Dave Grohl and Taylor Hawkins, country artist Taylor Swift and comedian George Lopez announced the nominees inside the Music Box @ Fonda in Hollywood, West's and Winehouse's names came up a lot.

Kanye West topped the nominations with eight, Amy Winehouse scored six, and the Foo Fighters, Jay-Z, Timbaland, Justin Timberlake and T-Pain each earned five nods. Akon, Dierks Bentley, Chris Daughtry, Feist, Tim McGraw, John Newton, Ne-Yo, Rihanna and Bruce Springsteen received four each.

Kanye and Winehouse will go head-to-head for Album of the Year honors: West for his third opus, Graduation, and Winehouse for her sophomore LP, Back to Black. Both are in the running alongside the Foo Fighters, for Echoes, Silence, Patience & Grace; country singer Vince Gill's These Days; and jazz legend Herbie Hancock's River: The Joni Letters.

West is also up for Best Rap/Sung Collaboration for his track "Good Life," which features T-Pain. He'll contend with Akon and Snoop Dogg's "I Wanna Love You"; Chris Brown and T-Pain's "Kiss, Kiss"; Keyshia Cole, Missy Elliott and Lil' Kim's "Let It Go"; and Rihanna and Jay-Z's smash hit, "Umbrella." He's also nominated for Best Rap Album for Graduation and produced fellow nominee Common's Finding Forever; other nods for the award went to Jay-Z's Kingdom Come, Nas' Hip Hop Is Dead and T.I.'s T.I. vs. T.I.P.

The numerous nominations come as good news for West, following the unexpected death of his mother, Donda West, last month.

Winehouse, a major tabloid media target this year who Lopez said "makes Lindsay Lohan look normal," is also in the running for Best Female Pop Vocal Performance for "Rehab." Also nominated is Christina Aguilera (for "Candyman"), Feist ("1234"), Fergie ("Big Girls Don't Cry") and Nelly Furtado ("Say It Right"). Winehouse's "Rehab" was also nominated for Song of the Year alongside Carrie Underwood (for "Before He Cheats"), the Plain White T's ("Hey There Delilah"), Corinne Bailey Rae ("Like a Star") and Rihanna ("Umbrella").

Winehouse is also nominated for Best New Artist, a category that also saw the nominations of Feist, Ledesi, Paramore and Taylor Swift. "Rehab" is also up for Record of the Year, against Beyoncé's "Irreplaceable," the Foo Fighters' "The Pretender," Rihanna's "Umbrella" and Justin Timberlake's "What Goes Around ... Comes Around."

Justin Timberlake's "What Goes Around ... Comes Around" was nominated for the year's Best Male Pop Vocal Performance, as were nominees Michael Bublé ("Everything"), John Mayer ("Belief"), McCartney ("Dance Tonight") and Seal ("Amazing"). Bon Jovi's Lost Highway, Feist's The Reminder, Maroon 5's It Won't Be Soon Before Long, McCartney's Memory Almost Full and Winehouse's Back to Black are all in the running for Best Pop Vocal Album.

West was nominated twice in the Best Rap Song category, grabbing nods for his tracks "Good Life" and "Can't Tell Me Nothing," which gives him the upper edge over fellow nominees 50 Cent (for "Ayo Technology"), T.I. ("Big Things Poppin' "), and Soulja Boy "Crank That)." 'Ye's song "Stronger" will face off against 50's "I Get Money," Common's "The People," Jay-Z's "Show Me What You Got," and T.I.'s "Big Things Poppin'," for Best Rap Solo Performance.


http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1575921/20071206/west_kanye.jhtml

Full nominations list:
http://www.grammy.com/GRAMMY_Awards/50th_Show/list.aspx

gotta love meth. i'm glad he came correct on 8 diagrams, he actually seemed motivated again.

Word. Meth has been on fire lately  :yep:
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on December 07, 2007, 02:56:06 AM
oooo, sick. One Be Lo.  Big ups Masa.

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Lupe - The Coolest
http://sharebee.com/78e2be49
I've been bumping this track for days now.

I can't wait for the album!  So far from the 3 full tracks i've heard, the Cool seems like its not gonna disappoint. I'm really looking forward to that burger song.  I heard he's only doing 3 albums then 'retiring'
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on December 10, 2007, 08:42:54 AM
SICK!! Lupe is gonna turn heads this year.

1 DAY UNTIL 8 DIAGRAMS DROPS!!!
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Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on December 11, 2007, 08:14:22 PM
online album leak on MTV for The Cool

http://www.mtv.com/music/the_leak/lupe_fiasco/the_cool/#full-desc

mtv.com never works for me =(

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Web Rip
http://rapidshare.com/files/75962280/Lupe_Fiasco-The_Cool-_WEB_-2007-INT.rar
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: cool_kickin_dude on December 11, 2007, 10:37:57 PM
got my 8 Diagrams TODAY!!!

time to "rip it, hardcore like porno flick bitches!" :lol:
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: hide321 on December 12, 2007, 03:08:33 AM
^ lol one man army, eh? Props. I'm a check this shit out.

WHOA ... RIP Pimp C. Yet another rapper gunned down.

Anyone heard Kardi's 'Kill De Dance' -- his myspace (http://www.myspace.com/kardinaloffishall) hasn't been updated in ages.


He died of natural causes.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on December 13, 2007, 02:31:34 AM
The Cool - Retail

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RIP DATE       -   12/12/2007
RELEASE DATE   -   12/18/2007
GENRE/STYLE    -   Hip-Hop
PLAYING TIME   -   70:57 min
RELEASE SIZE   -   93.8 MB
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Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: sazabi on December 13, 2007, 07:19:50 AM
lupe's latest offering is definitely a solid album. 4.5 mics in my opinion. my fav tracks are intruder alert, superstar, and little weapon. i was under the impression it would be a entire concept album continuing the stories of the characters from food& liquor, but i guess it's ok for what he did get into from his previous album. to me some tracks are forgettable but thats just my personal prefrences to the production but overall it'll be on rotation for the rest of the week.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on December 13, 2007, 03:38:28 PM
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I finally got the album! The euro version comes with a DVD, two bonus tracks (Tar Pit & 16th Chamber) and a sticker. Unfortunately the DVD is pretty wack, the concert clips are unwatchable due to horrible audio quality and the interview clips are too short. The bonus tracks are nice but not as good as the actual album tracks so unless you're a hardcore Wu-fan it doesn't really matter which version of the album you get.

My 8 Diagrams review

1. Campfire - 4½/5
WTC albums always have tight opening tracks and 8 Diagrams is no exception. The beat is grimy yet soulful and Meth & Ghost absolutely murder the track. Meth's flow is so good that even simple lines like "I'm trying to bring sexy back like Timbaland and Timberlake" sound amazing. 8 Diagrams once again proves that Meth sounds best over RZA's beats.

2. Take It Back - 4/5
Great song. Rae, Ghost and Deck all deliver great verses over an old school style beat.

3. Get Them Out Ya Way Pa - 3/5
Probably my least favorite song. The beat is too minimalistic and repetitive and the "fairy tinkle" sound is annoying. Meth shines once again but Masta & U-God drop forgettable verses. 

4. Rushing Elephants - 4½/5
Wu-Tang goes Jedi Mind Tricks. The beat really reminds of Stoupe's recent beats and I could easily imagine Vinnie Paz rapping over it. All four MCs are on fire: GZA drops crazy knowledge once again, Masta sounds more energetic than ever, RZA is back to using his Forever flow and Rae is rapping about dinosaurs and Excalibur. You gotta love it!

5. Unpredictable - 4½/5
Forever-Deck and RZA rapping over one of the most chaotic Wu-beats ever = pure gold. I'm also lovin' the crazy electric guitars and the off key chorus.

6. The Heart Gently Weeps - 5/5
One of my favorite songs of the year. The beat and the chorus are beautiful and Ghost delivers one of his best verses ever. Meth's verse could be longer and Rae's flow is a bit too mellow but I still love the song.

7. Wolves - 4½/5
Another great song. Wolves has one of the most complex and cinematic beats. Masta, Meth and U-God all sound great but to be honest I'm not a big fan of the chorus.

8. Guns Will Go 4½/5
2007 version of Assassination Day. The beat is minimalistic, yet grimy (not feeling the beat switch during Masta's verse tho) and I absolutely love the violins. Meth drops another great verse.

9. Sunlight 4/5
RZA needs to drop The Cure now. Great lyrics and the beat is quite good as well. The only minus is the kung fu sample which doesn't really fit with the mood of the track.

10. Stick Me For My Riches 5/5
Quite possibly the best east coast/dirty south hybrid song I have ever heard. Some people have criticized the amount of singing but personally I'm loving the chorus. Gerald Alston is really singing his ass off and the MCs are on point too. My favorite verse is probably GZA's.

11. Starter 3½/5
Starter might not be one of my favorite songs but it ain't bad. The chorus is kinda corny but the beat and the MCs save the song.

12. Windmill 4/5
Old school breakbeat meets Kill Bill. Rae & GZA sound alive again and Meth's flow is fucking bananas.

13. Weak Spot 4½/5
Weak Spot is one of the grimiest songs I have ever heard. The beat is dirty, chaotic and cinematic at the same time. RZA and Rae sound as good as 10 years ago and GZA proves once again why he is considered one of the best lyricists in the game. Great fucking song.

14. Life Changes - 4½/5
Beautiful song and Deck drops the most heartfelt verse. However the sound quality/beat switch during RZA's verse and the lack of Ghostface kinda ruin the end of the song for me. Despite the shortcomings, Life Changes is still a great tribute song and I'm sure ODB would be proud of his brothers.

Production - 4½/5
Rapping - 4½/5
Overall - 4½/5

8 Diagrams is a great comeback album and overall it's my 3rd or 4th favorite WTC album. RZA has managed to create a unique and complex soundscape for the MCs, who sound hungrier than in ages. The album does have it's flaws but it's still definitely worth buying. Wu-Tang Forever!
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on December 14, 2007, 08:04:34 AM
Nice review homie. I gotta write mine too lol

How can hip hop be dead??? IF WU-TANG IS FOREVER!!
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WHOA ... RIP Pimp C. Yet another rapper gunned down.

He died of natural causes.

My bad. They laid him to rest Thursday (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g62NLsRq7i5t05N1z1Ridy390BLQD8TGROA00).


Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on December 17, 2007, 12:58:16 AM
Words cannot describe....

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ROSES ARE RED. VIOLETS ARE BLUE.
On one knee sucking your hips, up in your poo, boo

Yo! HiP Nation. here's something shit I found, try it yo'self! (source Hiphopopcrunch (http://hiphop.popcrunch.com/looping-a-beat-how-to-make-your-own-hip-hop-tracks/#more-4618) blog) - if y'all can make some dope beats, let's have a thread in Freestyle.  O0

Looping a Beat: How to make your own hip-hop tracks

Here’s a step by step guide for taking free beats and producing your own hip-hop. Have fun!

1. Get a Digital Audio Workstation.

Here are some free options:

Windows - Try Reaper (http://reaper.fm) Reaper User Guide (http://www.cockos.com/reaper/userguide/ReaperUserGuide2.00h.pdf)

Mac - Try GarageBand

Linux - Try Ardour (http://www.ardour.org) Ardour online manual (http://ardour.org/files/manual/index.html)

2. Find your groove

Import the loop.

Reaper - Go to the main menu and choose Insert -> Media File or use the Media Explorer: View -> Show Media Explorer. (page 72 in the Reaper user guide)

GarageBand - Look up the file in Finder and simply click ‘n’ drag it to an empty spot in Garage Band.

Ardour - Click on the Edit item in the editor’s menu bar, then from the popup choose Import -> … as new tracks. (chapter 3.4 in the Ardour online manual)

3. Loop it up - repeat it

Reaper - Hover the mouse over the edge of the file until you see a double-headed arrow. Now click and drag the to the right for looping it. (page 119 in the Reaper user guide)

GarageBand - Hover the mouse over the upper right edge of the file until you can see a bent arrow, then click and drag to loop.

Ardour - For looping in Ardour you will have to copy manually. Hold Ctrl while clicking ‘n’ dragging to create a new copy. Line them up one after another. (chapter 4.4 in the Ardour online manual)

4. Record your raps

I hope you got a mic. In that case, just rap man! The only thing to watch out for is so that the signal going in don’t hit the red in the meter. If it does there can be some nasty distortion going on. And not the good sounding analog one, but the horrible digital one.

As far as inputs and connections to your sound card goes, you’ll have to find that out for yourself. They’re all different and there are lots of them out there.

So create a track, record enable it and hit record.

Reaper - Choose Track - > Add track. Click the record arm button on the track and then the record button on the transport (or Ctrl+R). (page 56-57 in the Reaper User Guide)

GarageBand - Choose Track -> New Track… -> Real Instrument Track. It should be record armed from the beginning, otherwise click the record arm button on the track. To start recording, click the record button in the transport.

Ardour - Choose Session -> Add track/bus and create a mono track. Click the record arm button on the track. Click the record button in the Transport and then play to start recording. (chapter 8.1 in the Ardour online manual)

5. Bounce it

When you’re done you might want to export the whole thing to a new file to play in a media player, burn on CD, etc. etc.

Reaper - Choose File -> Render (page 182 in the Reaper user guide)

GarageBand - Look under the Share menu and choose how you want to do it.

Ardour - Choose Session -> Export -> Export Session to audio file.

Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on December 17, 2007, 05:50:19 AM
Really dope interview with the REBEL INS. One of the underrated MC's of Wu-Tang.

Inspectah Deck Interview @ hiphopgame.com (http://www.hiphopgame.com/index2.php3?page=inspectahdeck3)
12/14/2007

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8 Diagrams is finally out. How do you feel about that?

We should have released five albums by now, but you know, it’s all good to still be loved and appreciated and anticipated like that. That’s the best feeling about this whole thing for me right now.

Five years is a long time to go without releasing an album. Was there too much of a layover between Iron Flag and 8 Diagrams?

For me and in my opinion, I would say yeah. But you know, I’m not the one who runs things. I just played my part as an MC on this one.

Did playing your part as an MC include giving RZA your creative input and making suggestions?

I played my part as an MC. This was a vision that RZA had, like 36 Chambers was a vision that he had. We had the faith in him to basically do what he does to the extent of how he does it. Pretty much, that’s what he did. My input wasn’t asked of me. Creatively, that’s really, like, out the window on this album. This was like you had Beethoven and n****s who played guitars and shit. There’s only room for one conductor, man.

It doesn’t seem as though every Clan member has that same faith in RZA that you have. Why do you think that is?

It’s not that everybody doesn’t have the faith. We know RZA away from music, so I know what he’s capable of on and off the field. It’s never a question of faith or anything like that. It’s just more a question of decision-making now that we’re grown. It’s about making the right decision and smart decisions because bad choices can kill you nowadays.
 
We’ve been a group that’s been under fire for a long time as well. We’re loved and hated. We’re loved for the same reasons we’re hated. So I look at this album, after a layoff of five years, as showing your faith. It’s like the dude you grew up with and moved away from you. You haven’t seen him in five years and when you first see him, it’s going to tell how he’s been living for the past five years. If his face is dirty, you’re going to be looking at him like, ‘What have you been doing all this time?’ I’m not saying we’re like that, but in this real glossy, glossy, glossy industry, it’s like we’re a piece of coal right now. And it’s good and bad. We’re the diamond in its rawest form but the people are misled and blinded by that shine. It just makes it hard, man.

Doing what we do, we have to overpower and redirect dudes’ mindstates, man, whether it’s the fans or the next generation or even just the music industry, which we helped shape to what it is now. It’s taking that motto and that mindset and bringing it back to where that is. There’s so much talent on the street and there’s so much good shit that you will never hear because of these big robots, these robotic dudes who are sucking up everything and making it hard for the independents. It hurts me a lot because there’s a lot riding on this. It’s bigger than us. It’s a hip-hop population that’s buying this album. We know. There’s a generation or population that’s rooting for us. It’s almost like being in a stadium at the Super Bowl and you have your home fans and the stadium is loud and everything. On the first play, you don’t want to throw an interception or turn the ball over because that’s how you lose. That’s how I’m looking at it and I could be wrong, but for this album, man, I think RZA in his creative genius, he took it to a level where he saw himself at. This is a vision that he had, unlike with 36 Chambers, where I saw that vision.

This album, I didn’t really see that vision because I’m still stuck on the core fans who got us to this point. I’m not really interested to cater to the new fans we met in Hollywood and all this, that and the third. If you wanna take it back and you wanna redirect the mindset, you have to do what you originally did because these fans are lost. This music and this generation is lost. If that’s the aim, then you gotta really come hard, man, because this generation’s teenagers are smarter than my generation’s teenagers. 16 year-olds today know what I knew at 22. We told them to stick together and that “clan” means “family”. We gave them guidelines all day with Supreme Clientele and The Purple Tape, Cuban Linx and everything that we’ve done, man.

So to really be at this level and the core is hyped about this album and it’s about a Beatles song. It’s not really about us. It’s about the Beatles. I don’t know, man. Maybe I ain’t seeing it, but it is what it is. I played my part as an MC. I really didn’t have any creative input. I didn’t have any direction to the album. I came in here as Inspectah Deck from Wu-Tang Clan. But if you want to hear creative input and ideas from Deck, you have to catch the Resident Patient album or catch the Part 2 that I’m doing now that’s dropping after this. That’s how I have to get my shit off. I’m one of the most underrated dudes of all-time, if you ask me. Not because I didn’t sell a million records. I didn’t have proper promotion for a lot of my shit, so you know, it is what it is. But that’s my opinion on that album. It’s not my lyrical best because I had to deal with what was put in front of me. I wasn’t really inspired by a lot of the tracks. And I can say that because this is nothing that I haven’t said to RZA already.

You don’t think you killed “Unpredictable”?

Yeah, but that wasn’t how the beat originally sounded and a few other elements…I’m not here to bicker or punch holes in my product. I’m just telling you what’s real with me and I’m not biting my tongue and I’m not trying to front on y’all. I support Wu-Tang 100%. This album was not my greatest and I don’t think it’s our greatest because of the direction that we went. But on the other hand, that’s RZA. He had that vision and he had that vision with 36 Chambers and we’re here now because of that. So maybe I’m wrong. Maybe this will be the album that the world was waiting for to come from the Clan and this will restore our history and restore our legacy and put it on top. Maybe that’s that album. I don’t think so.
 
Could 8 Diagrams be one of those albums that take awhile to sink in before fans see the greatness in it?

Maybe. It’s definitely going to take them some time to do whatever they’re going to do; if they’re going to get used to it or if they’re going to get familiar with it or if they’re going to hate on it, it’s all in a matter of time. For me, personally, and like I said, I’m only speaking for me, I’ve been born and raised on this Wu-Tang shit before Wu-Tang. In the womb, I was born with this shit. When it comes down to this, I know how to do that. I can’t give y’all my best if I’m not feeling a certain level. If you hear certain tracks and you wonder why Deck is not on this or why Deck isn’t on that, it’s not about that. Me, myself, I can’t perform and just act like I’m feeling this shit just to rhyme on it and just to get the job done and just to get the check. I could never do that. You might get the money but your name is on it and it’s unsatisfactory. Now my name would have to live with that mark on it.

You mentioned how your verse on “Unpredictable” was done over a different beat than the one that made 8 Diagrams. Is it hard as an MC to bring your best over a beat that you know isn’t good enough to go on the album?

It’s tough when you don’t know that’s going to happen. It’s tough when you write to something and you say the rhyme to something and then you come back and it’s something totally different. Yeah, that’s tough even though it’s happened in the past. Some of it has been successful, some of it hasn’t. But I’m not here to nitpick about this whole album. I’m just telling you my personal feelings. I didn’t like it. I like Ghost’s album better than the Wu-Tang album and I can say that because I’m fucking Wu-Tang. I’m keeping it real with the fans. When you see me on the street, I’m not concerned with being no rapper like that. I want to be bigger and more legendary than my solo career has allowed me to be and I know I can be. It takes the right positioning. If the Wu-Tang album has some sort of success, that would be a springboard for me to resurrect my solo career, man, which has been in the dungeons for a few years. I can’t capitalize off of that.

My babies can’t look forward to uncertainty, man, so I need to be sure. And I’m unsure. If you ask me, this is one of the first times that I’ve ever been questioning my own shit. But I’m only being aware of the times and looking at the times and the situation at where we’re at in hip-hop now .Are the people going to accept Wu-Tang trying to be as big or bigger than the Beatles or is Hollywood going to accept Wu-Tang or are we going to be looked at as rock stars? Those are not my dreams or goals so that is unimportant to me. I don’t worry about being looked at as a rock star. Listen, I did a song with Blondie and in two days, got a phone call and performed on The American Music Awards with her for “Who’s Gonna Cry” with me, U-God and Mobb Deep. I don’t have no problem doing that and I go wherever my music takes me.

But the album sounds slow, man. The album is slow. Everything is dragged out. There’s two head-nodding, Wu-Tang, side-splittin’, karate-choppin’ shit. For the die-hard fans that loved us from day one, I feel bad for them. That’s who I’m really speaking for. I’m not talking about the new fans we’re trying to make right now. Maybe fucking Tom Brady will show up to the concert because we did the Wu-Tang/Beatles shit. (laughs) I’m not concerned with that shit.

The backpack generation has been forgotten about. I’m concerned with getting them and the skateboarders, like the Lupe Fiasco’s of the world. Let’s give the young generation something to really , really hold onto, some knowledge, which it’s always gonna be. But the radio don’t play our shit. Is going this route going to guarantee that the radio will play our shit 60 times a day like the rest of that bullshit? Who knows, man? I don’t think so. I’m thinking after five years out the game, Wu-Tang needs to come back on a fucking tank like the A-Team. That’s how I’m thinking we have to come in the game and seize it from the rest of these clowns. We’re coming in kind of passive to me. We’re coming in like, ‘Hey, how are you doing? It’s okay with your bullshit. We’re just going to go over here and do our thing.’ You know what I mean? We have a responsibility to the hip-hop nation who are relying on us to change things once again like we did when we first came in. And it’s bigger than us, man. The responsibility lies on our shoulders and we’re the only ones who have been accepted to do it.

Will the hardcore Wu-Tang fans be unsatisfied with 8 Diagrams?
 
That’s my thoughts. That’s the thing I think about. Damn, the hardcore fans who got W tattoos on their neck or the GZA logo or the Deck logo or the Meth logo and whether they’re in France, Belgium, Puerto Rico or Chicago, or the ones with Wu-Tang Clan logos on their car or they kept their shirt from 1992 in crisp condition. Those dudes, and females too, what about them? They’re the ones that ain’t buying that bullshit. Now if we give them something worth buying, maybe some artists will go platinum again, like the Talib Kweli’s of the world and the Boot Camp’s of the world who should be going platinum because they’re doing hip-hop, not this fashion show, car show shit that everybody is turning to. But in all respect, man, hip-hop is growing at a rate that nobody’s going to stop. Its influence is here everyday in the commercials. You can sell Honey Nut Cheerios rhyming. Cadillac commercials have beats that could be on n****s’ albums. It’s real.

Will Smith was concerned in I, Robot that the robots were taking over. It’s going to get to the point where hardcore rappers are extinct because they don’t need hardcore rappers. They’re trying to ban all of that. They’re trying to ban the truth. They’re trying to ban all the reality and all the harshness. They’re trying to get everybody to fantasize about this life that isn’t there like Bentley’s and mansions and Rolex’s. But that ain’t there. Only one in a million gets that.

How do you feel when artists who make that kind of music cite Wu-Tang as one of their influences?
 
I give the real dudes love. I give the ‘90s generation, no matter where you was from, East, West, South, Midwest, West, it don’t matter because everybody was cracking at one time. I’m not hating on the rap generation. I’m talking about these clown overnight-sensation shit that dominates the radio and dominates the video and they’re selling ringtones all day. It’s like, ‘Yo, man, this shit is ridiculously done.’ It’s blaxploitation in a different way.

Soulja Boy is an example of someone who posted a song online, quickly got a record deal and an album in stores and is now a Grammy-nominated artist. Are you surprised at how quickly artists can obtain success today?

Come on, man. That’s what I’m talking about. And it ain’t knocking son’s hustle, because he might be a legitimate dude who came from where we came from and worked his way up. It’s not to knock his hustle, but it’s looking at the industry and the fans and we have to look at each other, like ‘How does this shit happen, yo?’ How does a n**** come out of nowhere and get it to pop off where a n**** can be putting in work for years and has been getting respect and has been getting love and is not wack, how does he not achieve those numbers within the years that he’s put in when compared to the overnight wonder?

It’s like, that’s the problem right there. The problem is the fans. It’s the motherfuckers walking in the stores and spending that $10, $20. It’s not the rapper no more. You can make whatever kind of music you want to make, man. It’s whatever out there, but it’s the consumer. Hip-hop is outselling country right now. It’s like, ‘Damn, man, hip-hop is powerful!’ That’s why everybody from the government to the churches are trying to get their hands on hip-hop. Everybody’s trying to get their hands on hip-hop.

I’m always going to have a job doing what I do, but they’re not interested in the Wu-Tang’s of the world because we’re the ones that have the true message and we’re the ones that are trying to wake the people up. We’ll party and dance with you but the moral of the story with us is to wake up your mind, man, and they don’t need revolutionary groups anymore. They don’t want you to be somebody that stands for something anymore. It’s like, ‘Fuck that, you’re wearing this because we paid for this wardrobe and we paid for this stylist and that’s it. You do whatever the fuck we tell you to. We’re spending this money on you.’ They’re recouping and they’re giving you advances to keep you blinded.

We’re in the middle of all that right now and we’re dropping an album in the midst of all of that. This is just the first floor of a 100-story building. We’re dropping in the midst of all this chaos and we’re still trying to maintain our integrity to the ones that got us there. This shit is real to me. I got kids. I have to feed my family off of this shit because I’m not getting a 9-5.

With the changing industry, how does Inspectah Deck and Wu-Tang move forward?

What I did with the Resident Patient that I have on Traffic Entertainment, I went straight to the internet and Part 2 will be available on the internet. That might be sent straight from my house. I might be licking the envelopes. That might be my job for a year. You can order that shit from me. That’s how that goes. I’ll put it up on MySpace and all those friend sites and do it like that. If you sell 50,000, you’re still making half a mill. I’ll go straight to the fans and eliminate the middle man, straight American Gangster style! (laughs) You know what I mean?

How’s Resident Patient Part 2 coming?

Resident Patient 2 is coming nice, man. I got outside production. I got different people coming in, not to mention that I’m doing production myself. It’s all ground-level entertainment. It’s Urban Icon Records. I’m doing what I’m doing. I have a few groups in the making right now, but they’re not ready. They’re in training, so in the future you’ll hear that. After Resident Patient 2, you’ll hear The Rebellion, which is still going to be my final album. It’s still going to be RZA-produced. It’s still going to have the Wu-Tang elements. What I’m dealing with is from my level of it. RZA will tell you all day, some brothers are more famous than others, but when it comes to the Clan as a whole, we’re all looked at as a whole. So I’m not just saying it for me and looking out for me, to the die-hard fans, I care about y’all and it makes me wonder, ‘Damn, are we taking care of them and are we taking care of the ones who we know are going to spend their $10 for the CD and once they buy it are they just going to put it on the shelf next to the other 12 that they got? Will they even listen to it?’ They might leave it in the wrapper and shit. I’m thinking about y’all. I’m thinking about this generation that’s coming up, who’s buying these young dudes. It’s like, ‘Yo, man, you’re not going to have nothing.’

Some of the songs that were made 10 years ago, it hits you now like how corny it is. If you pull out any Wu-Tang shit, it’s going to hit you in a different way. It doesn’t sound like nothing else. Just the awkwardness of it is going to hit your. I’m concerned with that. I could be paranoid. I smoke a lot. I might be paranoid. I might be thinking, ‘It’s all a dream.’ I put my faith in son to do that. It was never a question of faith. It was more or less, ‘What are you going to do, man? I hear you talking, but what are you going to do?’ It’s always like that. ‘I’m with you 100%, but what’s popping though?’

Will The Rebellion really be your last album?

Yeah. The Rebellion is going to be my last album, man. The Resident Patient was more of a mix album. The Movement was on Koch. That was an underrated album that didn’t get promoted, but it still sold. I feel okay, man. I can still keep my lights on and do what I need to do, so it’s all going to be good with me. I just hope that this one is the album that n****s want. After five years in the game and after hearing a whole bunch of redundant shit over and over, is this the album that they want to hear? Me being the Inspectah, I’m just skeptical, man.

You mentioned you had some groups in the works. A few years ago, there was talk of you, GZA and Masta Killa forming a group. How come that never happened?

We were going to do an album together, but we can’t do it without the rest of the crew like that. It’s not like we could just branch off and do that. I would rather do it with three people I don’t know, because when it comes to us, our power comes when we all align. And we know that, so we were like, ‘Fuck it, man, I ain’t gonna do that.’ We all came to the decision like, ‘You know what? You do your album and I’ll jump on that.’ We all jumped on each other’s albums instead and we did what we needed to do. I think if we would have put that three out, I think it would have sold. I think people would have wanted another joint with Meth on it or they would have been calling for a Meth, Ghost and Rae album. We brought that all to the table at one time. At different times, people were with it. Mentally, it just died off and we all did our thing anyway.

Is your group House Gang still together?

Yeah, House Gang is still a group. They branched off and they have another group under them called Loose Linx. I’m still into that and I’m still doing production with Urban Icon Records. Everything is grinding out and it’s moving slow, but it’s moving. That’s the whole thing. You can look forward to that shit in the new year. I guarantee you’re going to hear The Rebellion and Resident Patient Part 2 and I might throw in a bonus mixtape with 30 freestyles. You can definitely look forward to that shit on the internet only. I don’t know if you’ll even be able to buy my next shit in stores. That’s how I’m  going to do it.

You’ve proven you have skill in producing. Will you be dropping more beats in the future?

Yeah. I just got me a whole little rig now, so I’m set up to do a lot more production than I’ve ever done. Just being on the run and trying to do the album together and being an MC, it’s hard to do both at one time. I was never highly skilled at it. I used to watch RZA, 4th Disciple and Tru Master and I got better at it. I’m definitely doing another album with my own production on it. You’ll be hearing from me soon. I never really had a whole lot of tracks to give away to a whole lot of people. I kept it in the family.

Getting back to 8 Diagrams, “My Heart Gently Weeps” was publicized like crazy. Was “My Heart Gently Weeps” the wrong single to promote?

To me, as a b-boy, hip-hop, early ‘90s, born and raised, I think it’s the wrong move. It’s feeding the people what they want and remembering who you are. But other than that, I understand it from a business standpoint. If I’m the one spending hundreds of thousands of dollars and major money is on this, then I can see where you’re trying to make a direct impact, like you can put this song out and it’s going to strike enough new people where we can possibly have outstanding first-week sales. I understand what that translates to.

But those outstanding first-week sales are not the real fans, man. You know? Those are the new fans we got based on doing a song with the Beatles. After that song, what do you do then? You have to take care of the core. I always say that, man. That’s why kings get thrown off the fucking thrones, man, because of the people revolting, man. I guess that’s why I’m the Rebel, man. I always feel a certain way.

“Life Changes” is an emotional tribute song to Ol’ Dirty Bastard. Was that a hard song for you to record?

For me, it was because I was looking at it like, ‘Man, this shit can be me.’ Dirty is me. Dirty passing is me passing in a way. Part of this whole crew died. The persona, the mystique behind Wu-Tang, a lot of shit died with Dirty. I’m Inspectah. I see that. I see that mentally, way off in the distance, off the fucking planet somewhere. I can’t explain it to you, man. That’s how it is. It’s like, the whole downfall that we’ve been having since then has been happening because there was no unity between us, no communication and there was a lot going on. Everybody just got separated and went out and did their own thing. The devil took one of us.

I thought that that would bring us together and make everything tighter, which it has. It’s brought us together, but it’s like, I look at it like, ‘Why wait to have a party on a fucking birthday?’ We have to always be like that because it can happen to any one of us again and I don’t want it to be me and I don’t want it to be no one else. So I’m just like, ‘Yo, we need to get our shit together and if we’re going to record an album, let’s do it for real because the people are depending on this shit more than we think.’ And I will continue to say that, man.

The people need what we have to say. They need to hear it because they’re tired of the other shit. There are only so many cars you can buy, and mansions and guns. There’s only so much. There’s only so much. There’s only so many people you can kill in one rhyme. Some people are killing four people a verse. It’s getting redundant, man. (laughs) It’s real. That’s why I laugh, because I know that the people want the shit that Wu-Tang comes with, like the “Rainy Dayz”, the “Incarcerated Scarface”’s, the “Better Tomorrow”’s, the “Ice Cream”s and the “Ice Water”. They want Cappadonna’s “The Pillage” and “Rec Room”. They want the “Triumph”’s. I can go on for days. They want “Shame On A n****”. They want that. They don’t want to hear the motherfucker who just got his deal yesterday and in his first video, he has the Bentley and the jewelry. I don’t want to see that no more.

How do you think 8 Diagrams would be different if Dirty had a say in it?

It would just have some life to it because I know Dirty would feel the same way I’m feeling. This shit is boring! This shit is putting me to sleep. Dirt Dog never bit his tongue. That’s one thing about me. I won’t bite my tongue, but a lot of times, I might not say nothing. This isn’t moving me like that. I just don’t like it. That’s all that means. It doesn’t mean it can’t be successful. So the fans understand directly what I’m saying, I have faith in RZA to do what he do, so I come in and play my part as an MC. But as far as my personal opinion, which relates to me and only me, I don’t feel that this is our greatest shit or the shit that n****s want to hear at this stage in the game from us. I feel like we have to give them a newer, better album such as the new Ghost album. I’m not saying that’s the truth either. I’m just saying that his album sounds like what a Wu-Tang album should sound like, but it’s him by himself. So he’s going to do well because he kept with the formula. That’s what I’m saying. I don’t hear no Beatles shit on there. He’s signed to one of the biggest machines out there. If they have faith in that sound, I’m pretty sure that the fans would have faith in that sound as well.

In your verse on “Life Changes”, you say you should have helped ODB when he was in trouble but that you were selfish. That’s an extremely heavy burden to bear.

That’s why you hear me talking the way I’m talking right now because this rap shit really doesn’t mean nothing to me like that, man. Life means more. And I’m like, ‘Damn, man, maybe if we could have really reached out more’ because I knew what he was doing and he knew what I was doing. I smoke. I smoke a lot of weed. Sometimes you need that person to come to you and as much as you may hate it, like, ‘Get away from me, stop telling me that,’ sometimes you need that person to get on your nerves like, ‘Put that shit down. You don’t need that.’

I feel like we need to be there for each other despite the fact that we’re grown men and we have different lives. But the lives that we have now, we built our lives on each other. The life I have now with my two kids and my cars, I built that on the backs of my brothers as well as myself. That’s my life. We need to be more in-tune like that and I think that’s what shows on the album, man. That’s just my opinion. I’m not trying to discourage nobody from going to get it. Go get it and support a n**** and help a n**** keep his lights on. I don’t have no hits on the chart. I keep it funky. I keep it funky with y’all all the time.

Wu-Tang is my biggest success story and if they fail, I fail. And I can’t tolerate failure at this stage of my life. I’ll ride with you, man, but I’m so skeptical that I have three eyes open on everything. I’m not getting caught up by little write-ups in Rolling Stone or DJs that say this is the greatest. Nah. I’ll see what it translates to when we compare the numbers to the other artists who the fans say they’re tired of. If you’re turned of all that commercial, Bentley-talking bullshit and you have an alternative now and you don’t support that, then you’re full of shit. You don’t want nothing new. You’re satisfied and you’re content with that stupidity. So don’t come at me sideways when you see me in the street and ask me why I don’t do that because I don’t shuck and jive. I don’t do the Hollywood Shuffle. If you’re looking for a motherfucker to have his shirt off in the video with his chest wet, you’re looking at the wrong dude, man.

There are only a handful, if that many, of artists today with that kind of perspective on music.

You know what it is for me, man? It made my career. It kept my career at a certain level. Me being the Rebel that I am, I could have sold millions. I could have done the shit that you see everybody else doing, but I just never allowed myself to be outside of myself. I grew up listening to the Curtis Mayfield’s, the Marvin Gaye’s and the Willie Hutchinson’s. Listening to that music kept me in a certain mindframe. I watched a lot of blaxploitation movies like Hell up in Harlem. You can name it. The style that I developed came from the ‘709s. You had to be cool. That’s what I do for dudes. I’ll take you on a walk to the corner store. Let’s go for a walk to the corner store and from the house to the store, somebody done got shot, the fire truck and ambulance came, there’s a car crash, somebody got robbed, a baby was born and somebody graduated, all within the hour. That’s what I bring to the table and anybody that knows about Uncontrolled Substance, The Movement, Resident Patient and even Part 2, that’s what you’re going to get from me. You mighty get a couple of dance tracks and club joints and some female joints because you have to mix it up, but for the most part, I give you tales from the ‘hood for real.

A lot of fans say you consistently outshine other Clan members on songs. How does it feel hearing that?

That sucks. That sucks, man. That sucks to hear everyday that you’re the illest and that you’re the fucking illest and it doesn’t translate to record sales or the numbers. It don’t translate to that. So what is it? I don’t make songs? I figured it out. I don’t have the right kind of promotion or the right push. I don’t have the right people. So when I do this next solo album, man, I’m doing it straight to the fucking internet. You buy it right from me and you can feel good knowing that Deck mailed it to you. Yeah, Deck has your credit card information and I mailed it to you personally. It feels good knowing that. I’m going to autograph each and every one of those shits. I’m going to do stuff that heads don’t do nowadays. I’m going to show you that I’m on your level and that I’m not no superstar. It feels good doing that. Fuck a label and a marketing team. You don’t need that shit. There’s 10 billion people on the internet daily. If you can get 1% of that, you can feed your family for years.

Are you more accessible to fans today through MySpace and other online outlets?

Yeah. Now I understand the business part of it. I’ve been working on my businesses and doing what I do on the low. I don’t have any hits on the low and you haven’t seen any Deck albums out there. I have a lot of things going on. But for the most part, it’s hard to live with hearing that you have so much potential and that you’re the illest and it never translates. You know what I’m going to do? I’m going to put my shit into a book. A poetry book with all my rhymes of shit that you haven’t heard. I have rhyme books that my mom done found in her old crib. I have mad poetry and I’m going to put it in a book so people can really see what I’m talking about.

I’m going to call it something controversial too. Motherfuckers are running with this “Greatest Lyricist of All-Time” and I want to challenge that. Being the Greatest Lyricist of All-Time doesn’t mean the one who sold the most records. It’s the one whose lyrics are just that outstanding. I think I would qualify for something like that. The best lyricist of all time, you can definitely put me and GZA in that category and a lot of people I know in that category.

Does not getting recognition from the industry and major labels ever discourage you?

It’s discouraging at times but I do what I do. You know what it is? They want me to take my shirt off and wet my chest and pour honey on myself and do other stupid shit for the camera. If I turned into an image of another artist, maybe they would move a different way. Maybe I should get a bunch of girls around me and act like I’m a pimp. I’m going to be me. In a video, the other guys are my actual homies. It’s big business and it’s bigger than that. I’m just talking about Inspectah Deck on the ground level. On a bigger level and with big business, for me to have a successful album, and I know that I can go platinum at any time, I would have to go relocate. I could get with any team moving and any label situation and go function, man. I know I can. Would I do it? I probably wouldn’t because that’s betrayal to everything that I stand for.

Inspectah Deck on G-Unit, the fans wouldn’t respect that. It would probably be a good move on my part because G-Unit has a good percentage of the units being moved in hip-hop right now, but if Wu-Tang got with G-Unit, the fans would be like, ‘Fuck that!’ A good situation for me would be to have an ill RZA-produced album with all the Clan members as well as outside members as well as production from outside producers. That would fucking be a hit for Inspectah Deck with some push to it. It would sell like it was supposed to sell, not what we’re hoping it could sell.

Looking at some songs, like “9 Milli Brothers”, sometimes your voice doesn’t sound like it normally does. Is that from recording with a cold or is it a more serious problem?

It’s happened a few times; recording a verse with a cold. On this album, I recorded “Stick Me For My Riches” with a cold. I had a cold and I wanted to come back. I just said, “You know what? Leave the verse and I’ll come back.” I went overseas and went over there and we fucked around and the deadline came and I never got to change my verse. So the verse with the cold is on the fucking album and I’m insulted by it. Other people are telling me that it doesn’t sound that bad, but to me, it distinctively doesn’t sound like me and it makes my rhyme sound kind of wack. I take pride in my shit and I can say when I’m not feeling it. To me, I know it’s a tight verse. The next thing you know, that’s how it is on the album though. People can hear it and be like, ‘Who’s that?’ ‘Oh, that’s Inspectah Deck.’ ‘Oh, that’s the song he was talking about!’

Raekwon is working on a new album, Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang. Will you be a part of that project?

I am part of that, man. Word. That’s going to save my ass. I’m definitely a part of that. I would love to do an album like a chaser. This is an album that the artists wanted to do as opposed to, ‘Okay, this is an album that the producer wanted to do.’ I think that would be good for hip-hop and I don’t think that would be any disrespect towards RZA. It would be like the artists put out their own album because that’s what they wanted to do. Now let the fans choose. The only difference is that it might cost them $20. But controversy sells and I think the fans would love that.

If you consider Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang a chaser to 8 Diagrams, would the album drop fairly soon?

It could come as early as next year, man. It could come as early as January or February. To me, it depends on who’s really riding with it. It depends on who’s really riding with it. I’m about it. I’m about whatever is going to take my career further. I’m not here on no personal feelings shit. I’m with whatever is going to take my career further. I’m going to keep doing what I do successfully and I’m with that. Why not put out an album like Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang? That was one of the most famous movies that we got a lot of our skits from and a lot of our personas from. Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang, that’s where Wu-Tang was born. The artist versus the producer makes it good for rap.
 
Do you think everybody in the Clan will be on board?

I think so. I think so. I think when they listen to this album and they see where RZA was coming from and then they listen to Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang and we get the Havoc’s and the Q-Tip’s and all the ill producers out there, I think the fans would love to hear that. I think the fans would love to hear Meth, Rae and Ghost killing it off an Alchemist track. Hell yeah! (laughs) You know what I mean!

Over the years, have a lot of big-name producers expressed an interest in wanting to work with Wu-Tang?

Of course, man. Of course. There’s a long line of people who want to get involved in that.

Before you have to leave, can you take us through your writing process and how your verses come together?

I guess life, man. There’s no real structured formula to it. I might think of a phrase in my head. For example, I was thinking of a rhyme and I just caught the phrase, “Martin got shot in the face on the balcony in front of Jesse, they were probably smokin’ weed.” To me, that sounds like a line that Ghost would open up with, so I wrote it down. From there on, the next time I see the paper and I come back, or even right now when I’m talking, I might hang up the phone with you and come with the other part. That’s a dart. Most of the time for me, it starts with a line. The whole line sets off what you’re going to talk about.

Where do you do your best writing?

Shit, I do my shit everywhere, man. I used to keep the notebook on me. I used to roll around with the notebook on me, but now I got one of the voice recorders on the phone, so every now and then I stop and I say some stupid shit. I’ll write some shit in my house at 4 in the morning, smoking a blunt, watching YouTube and fucking around. The next thing you know, I’m coming with some shit when the house is quiet and the kids are asleep.

What’s your focus going to be for the next few months?

These two albums and my label. I’m working on these groups and Urban Icon Records. You’re going to see The Rebellion come out on that and Resident Patient Part 2 on the internet. I’m also looking at doing outside production. I can’t be jumping offstage no more. I’m getting into CEO mode right now.
 
What do you want to say to all the Wu-Tang fans out there?

Don’t let this interview persuade you with the album. But I can’t sit here and say the album is outstanding and that it is going to blow your mind. I’m not with the fraudulent shit. Expect me to be real, whether you like it or not. That’s all I can say to y’all.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on December 17, 2007, 06:08:20 AM
GZA disses 50 Cent

One of Hip Hop's top lyricist's is challenging the lyrical ability of one of Hip Hop's top heavyweights.
According to RollingStone.com, the GZA called out 50 Cent while performing at The Knitting Factory in New York on Thursday night, saying Fif "ain't got no motherfucking lyrics."

The performance was the first of two performances in which the Wu-Tang Clan legend performed his classic Liquid Swords album in its entirety.

Here's the video below:
[youtube=425,350]LwqvII9Y7qg[/youtube]

and here's a previous video of GZA dissing 50 Cent and Soulja Boy
[youtube=425,350]5BdLPHvDXYc[/youtube]

source: hiphopgame.com (http://www.hiphopgame.com/news.php3?id=2076)
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: aKaoNi on December 17, 2007, 06:39:34 AM
lmao @ video two around 1:15 "Fuck Nick Cannon!"
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Gaijin22 on December 19, 2007, 02:13:35 AM
The only Hiphop i'm lisening to is French. Not because I'm french but because the language sounds so great, and Shurki'n album is the best for me.
It's great whyle lisening to in on the streets. He uses some traditional sometimes even Japanese instruments. So it's really interesting.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on December 19, 2007, 05:17:12 AM
Exclusive: First look at Ghostface Killa's book "The World According to Pretty Toney"
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http://www.wooohah.com/2007/12/exclusive-first.html
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on December 19, 2007, 09:17:06 AM
^ LMAO. Is that Ashy LArry from Chappelle show? I gotta get this book. If y'all listened to that Ghostface etiquette tips or whatever "Wash ur face before you wash ur balls" - then this is gonna be Craaazzzzy!  O0

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Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on December 19, 2007, 08:03:49 PM
Bow Wow & Omarion Break 100k, Birdman ''Stuns'' On The Billboard 200

There were no monster debuts this week, but a slew of hip-hop and R&B albums made an impression on the charts during the pre-Christmas rush. Bow Wow & Omarion scored this week's highest debut with their collabo album, Face Off, which landed at No. 11 and moved 107,000 copies in its first week out, according to Billboard. Birdman has been in some legal trouble as of late, but his rap game seems to be on track. The Cash Money CEO's 5 * Stunna debuted at No. 18, selling 86,000 copies with some help from guest artists Young Jeezy, Rick Ross, Fat Joe and surrogate son Lil' Wayne . R&B crooner Mario debuted at No. 21 this week with his sophomore effort Go!, which sold 77,000 copies. The disc features spots from Juelz Santana and Rich Boy. Staten Island collective Wu-Tang Clan aired out their creative differences in the media but managed to debut at No. 25 this week, pushing 68,000 copies of their comeback album, 8 Diagrams. Def Jam artist The-Dream, best known for penning hits including Rihanna's "Umbrella" and J. Holiday's "Bed," debuted at No. 30 this week with 59,000 copies sold of his solo effort "Love/Hate." South Philly rapper Beanie Sigel debuted at No. 37 with his fourth album, The Solution, which moved 49,000 units in its first week out. The disc features guest spots from R. Kelly, Scarface, Ghostface and Styles P. Gucci Mane's disc Back to the Traphouse, the A-town rapper's major label debut, debuted at No. 64 with 31,700 discs sold. The album features guest spots from Lil' Kim, Ludacris, Rich Boy, Trey Songz, Shawnna and the late Pimp C.

http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/13250

Damn....  :(
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on December 22, 2007, 06:28:16 AM
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01. League Crew - Intro
02. Little Brother - Intro
03. Chaundon - The Boondocks Theme 2.0
04. Chaundon & Asheru - Hip Hop Docktrine (Prod. By The Kickdrums)
05. Cool Cee Brown, Phonte, & Asheru - No Fear
06. Tanya Morgan - Walk This Way (Dream On) (Prod. By Aeon)
07. Erykah Badu f. Little Brother - Honey (Wally Sparks Mix) (Prod. By 9th Wonder)
08. Skyzoo - Never Sleep (Prod. By Illmind)
09. Skyzoo & Joell Ortiz - A Brooklyn Summer (Wally Sparks Mix) (Prod. By Nicotine Beats)
10. Ja$ - T.R.O.Y. (Freestyle)
11. Phonte Speaks (Prod. By DJay Cas)
12. Cormega f. Little Brother - The Rap Game
13. Jozeemo f. Little Brother - Lose It
14. J*Davey f. Pacific Division, Diz Gibran, & Bleu Collar - sLAyers
15. Little Brother - Rise To Fall (Mick Boogie Mix) (Prod. By J. Dilla)
16. Pugs Atomz f. Hall Of Fame - Black Boy (Prod. By Hi-Tek)
17. Skyzoo f. Maino & Stimuli - Cop & Go (Prod. By 9th Wonder)
18. Sha Stimuli - The N Word Song
19. L.E.G.A.C.Y. - The Trial
20. Illa J f. Rapper Big Pooh & Bishop Lamont - Respect It (Prod. By J. Dilla)
21. DJ Spinna f. Phonte - Dillagence (J. Dilla Tribute)
22. Cunninglynguists f. Phonte & Witchdoctor - Yellow Lines
23. Rashid Hadee f. Common - Let Go (Wally Sparks Mix)
24. Amanda Diva - Supawoman
25. Phonte’s Favorite Characters (Prod. By Von Pea)
26. Tanya Morgan - Bout To Be Some (Prod. By Khrysis) (Hip Hop Dock-Trine Exclusive)
27. Blu Checks In
28. Blu - The Only Way (Hip Hop Dock-Trine Exlcusive)
29. Skyzoo Speaks (Produced By Sonny Crack)
30. P.H.E.A.R. I Love Her Again
31. A Tribe Called Quest - Bonita Applebum (Flashback)
32. Little Brother - Outro
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01. Metaphor The Great - Intro
02. Metaphor The Great - Hip Hop Dock-Trine 2 Intro (Prod. By JJ The Genius)
03. HUYUSHERU (Mr. Hu, Y.U., & Asheru) - Balance
04. Muneshine f. Emilio Rojas & D-Sisive - These Days (Prod. By Pete Rock)
05. Main Flow f. Cormega - Forever
06. MTV News (Sway) - Thugnificent: Rags To Bitches
07. Blackstar f. India Arie - Hopeless (Wally Sparks Mix) (Prod. By Justice League)
08. Barak Yalad f. Trouble T - Bewitched (Produced By Young Cee)
09. Jean Grae - It’s A Wrap
10. The Lethal Interjection Crew & Rags To Bitches The Album (Interlude)
11. Asheru Checks In
12. Asheru f. Heron Gibran - Keep On Rockin’ (Hip Hop Dock-Trine Exclusive)
13. Rashid Hadee - Whatever It Takes (Hip Hop Dock-Trine Exclusive)
14. Metaphor The Great Speaks (Prod. By Von Pea)
15. Metaphor The Great - Freestyle (Riley’s Theme) (Boondocks Exclusive) (Prod. By JJ The Genius)
16. Ghostface Killah - n**** Moment (Interlude)
17. Ghostface Killah - Save Me Baby (Dub Floyd & DJ Unexpected Remix) (Prod. By J. Dilla)
18. NY Oil - Maybe (Hip Hop Dock-Trine Exclusive)
19. Dres (Blacksheep) - Grew Up (Hip Hop Dock-Trine Exclusive)
20. Huey & Riley Party with The Lethal Interjection (Interlude)
21. Talib Kweli f. Raekwon - Start To Finish (Dub Floyd Screamixx) (Prod. By The Kickdrums)
22. AZ & Styles P Checks In
23. AZ f. Styles P. - The Hardest Out (Prod. By Large Professor)
24. Pacific Division Checks In
25. Pacific Division - For Real
26. Quasimoto f. Ghostface Killah - Hydrant Game (Dub Floyd Screamixx) (Prod. By Jaylib)
27. Metaphor The Great - Shout Outs (Produced By Tough Junkie)
28. Metaphor The Great - Do That (Hip Hop Dock-Trine Exclusive) (Prod. By JJ The Genius)
29. 106 & Park, TRL & Fat Man Scoop - Rap Beef n**** (Interlude)
30. The Lethal Interjection Crew - Eff Granddad (Boondocks Dirty Exclusive)
31. U-N-I - Castlevania
32. Tough Junkie - Not For Me (Hip Hop Dock-Trine Exclusive)
33. Phene - The Spokesman (Prod. By DJay Cas)
34. Granddad & Xzibit - Retaliation (YouTuberlude)
35. Metaphor The Great - I’m Metaphor (Hip Hop Dock-Trine Exclusive) (Prod. By JJ The Genius)
36. Hi-Tek f. Homeskillet, Crunch Ex & Mood (Donte & Main Flow) - Breakin’ Bread (Flashback)
37. The Life & Times Of Colonel H. Stinkmeaner (Interlude)
38. David Banner f. Colonel H. Stinkmeaner - B.A.N. (The Love Song aka Free T.I.)
39. St. Laz f. Geolani - Dollar Circulate (Dub Floyd Screamixx) (Produced By 9th Wonder)
40. Metaphor The Great - Outro
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Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on December 22, 2007, 07:35:17 AM
Props homes! This should get me in the mood to finish off the rest of the Boondocks season.

LMAO @ the free TI track.


....Wu-Tang major post coming soon.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on December 24, 2007, 06:25:30 AM
BAD BOY...COME OUT AND PLAY-AAAAAY

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Craig Mack, where the fuck are you? Still - one of the illest remixes around. Now I remember where Chappelle got his breast milk reference. :lol:
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Foxy Brown on December 25, 2007, 05:10:13 AM
Merry Christmas, everybody.
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Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: aKaoNi on December 26, 2007, 04:24:43 AM
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How the fluck did I miss that pic and Masa's wu-review last time i checked this thread out??  :?
Any chance of scans from that mag??


Late but Merry Christmas!

Raekwon - Yae Yo (http://www.thahighlife.com/muz/Yae%20Yo.mp3) (Right click and save as)
^ Classic Rae, best track off Immobilarity imo.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on December 27, 2007, 10:35:19 AM
Copped me 8 Diagrams. The RZA is right, it takes a few listens before you can fully appreciate it.
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Some album scans by me.
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My 8 Diagrams review

1. Campfire - 4.5/5

Kindness and Faith are THE FOUNDATION!!! Great wisdom to start the album off...the principle of Wu-Tang is how I live my life everyday.

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BOOM!!! Meth rips it up. Any thing that RZA throws! Now my chick is miserable. We're gonna have a ball, might as well pick a testicle. EPIC EPIC lyrics. Best verses I have heard in years.

2. Take It Back - 5/5

I love the bass in this. HOLD UP HOLD UP! My favorite track. Cuz we TOLD YA TOLD YA! Truly an anthem Wu-Tang to go by in the dark grimy daze of the current state of hip hop.

3. Get Them Out Ya Way Pa - 4.5/5

It's a creepy hook. A good track to just kick back and relax...think of my homies who got shot with the payback. RIP Huy.

4. Rushing Elephants - 5/5

Truly one of the best Wu tracks ever. Makes me wanna throw a chair through a wall.

5. Unpredictable - 5/5

Though I was kinda disappointed they got rid of the original sample of Clint Eastwood. CHOO-CHOOSE!! haha - add that guitar hook fuckin OFF THE CHAIN. WITTY WU-TANG IS UNPREDICTABLE.

6. The Heart Gently Weeps - 4.5/5

Ain't feeling the  chorus, I know it's classic but damn, Ghost wailing like his name was ODB? Not a fan of Eryka Badu in this...chilling tho. The verse paint

7. Wolves - 5/5

The kung fu sample at the beginning is hilarious. Beat the wolf just to warn the others. PETA dun fuck with Shaw Bros. Dig the "ooo" back ground, then as the beat builds to a verse it just makes u wanna jump up and crash. Loved it when they quieted it down on Masta Killa's verse.

8. Guns Will Go 4.5/5

The violins are haunting. Masta Killa gets this pause kinda beat when he rhymes. The hook got stuck in my head to gunna go gunna go!

9. Sunlight 5/5

Bought damn time someone speak up with world events involving all religions - I'm feeling his POV on this. Thru christ, allah, etc...EARS OF CORN! HEADS OF LETTUCE!

10. Stick Me For My Riches 4.5/5

I'm digging the mood of this. "Now with success I become a target." IM GONNA MAKE IT OOOOOH YEEEAAH. Dope track whenver ur feeling u can't make it, can't be a success - listen to Wu.

11. Starter 5/5

SOOOOO!! can't be a Wu joint without a sexy track. "Baby, you'se a starter, where you throw that skirt" good track to fuck ur lady with.

12. Windmill 5/5

The simple guitar rhythm goes so fast...Rae and GZA delivered some of the illest barbs in this one.

13. Weak Spot 5/5

YOU FIND MY WEAKSPOT!! STILL YOU FAIL! Classic Wu-Tang here, with the kung fu hook.

14. Life Changes - 5/5

Best song on the entire album. You just get chills listening to each Wu Brother recount what Dirty meant to him. From GZA imagining Dirty in the studio to Deck completely blaming himself "I really miss you Russell, hope you forgive me Dirty." Chokes u up man. RZA's verse was the best tho, "I said no doubt you, when you said that the passion of Christ was all about you."

Then was that RZA's sifu doing the something sutra. First time I ever heard mandarin on a rap album!!

Overall, another epic album from Wu-Tang. Though I ain't feeling all the R&B hooks but ah well. I'm tired of eating cheese sandwiches with no meat. And I'm glad they didn't take a ODB sample and just loop the fuck out of it. Or take a bad sample and make a single of it with a guest star. The DVD was wack. Less than 10 minutes? Ah well, cool insight to the making and on ODB...but the audio was about as good as a bootleg video I make at a rap show.

Production - 4.5/5
Rapping - 5/5
Overall - 4.5/5

How can HiP HoP be dead if  Wu-Tang is Forever!

Since almost everyone at JPHiP is a Wu-head...let's see where y'all stand?

The JPHiP.com WU-SURVEY
(Masa go ahead and edit/add fields. I can't think of shit. Mocha suggested Top 10 RZA beats lol)

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First Encounter/Fan Since:
Ultimate Wu-banger:
List Wu MC's in order of best to worst:
List Wu Albums in order of best to worst:
Favorite Wu-Moment (e.g. concert, TV interview, etc.):
Top 5 generals & affiliates:

Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: hide321 on December 28, 2007, 12:56:40 PM
First Encounter/Fan Since:
Enter the 36 Chambers

Ultimate Wu-banger:
Triumph
 
Favorite Wu-Moment (e.g. concert, TV interview, etc.):
ODB interrupting the Grammys

Top 5 generals
RZA, GZA, Ghostface, Raekwon, Method Man

Top 5 affiliates
Killah Priest, Bronze Nazareth, Cilvaringz, Warcloud, Hell Razah

Top 5 RZA beats
Cold World, Assassination's Day, Triumph, (Careful) Click Click, Diary of a Madman
Title: Top 20 favorite hip-hop albums of 2007
Post by: hide321 on December 28, 2007, 01:23:24 PM
With the year over in a couple of days, I figured it was time to list my favorites.  Here are my favorite hip-hop albums of the year, in order.

01. Wu-Tang Clan - 8 Diagrams
02. Cilvaringz - I
03. Hell Razah - Renaissance Child
04. Talib Kweli - Eardrum
05. Wisemen - Wisemen Approaching
06. Killah Priest - The Offering
07. A-Plus - My Last Good Deed
08. Hell Razah - Razah's Ladder
09. Ghostface Killah - The Big Doe Rehab
10. Pharoahe Monch - Desire
11. MF Grimm - The Hunt for the Gingerbread Man
12. DJ Deckstream - Soundtracks
13. Percee P - Perserverance
14. Sean Price - Jesus Price Superstar
15. Little Brother - Get Back
16. Common - Finding Forever
17. Kanye West - Graduation
18. UGK - Underground Kingz
19. Shin-ski of Martiangang - Shattered Soul On A Pastel Sky
20. Jay-Z - American Gangster

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Notes: I excluded re-released albums, soundtracks, mixtapes, collection discs and compilations in my lists.  Furthermore, these are strictly hip-hop releases that were IN ENGLISH.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on December 30, 2007, 02:06:57 AM
^ DOPE list bro. Time to pull out the discs and evaluate. If you are a Wu-Tang head in the US. you can get them to visit yo' hood by voting here:
http://eventful.com/performers/P0-001-000010331-5/competition?source=ms

Lemme answer my own survey first lol

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First Encounter/Fan Since: C.R.E.A.M. video/1993
Ultimate Wu-banger: Da Mystery of Chess Boxin'
List Wu MC's in order of best to worst:
1. ODB
2. Method Man
3. GZA
4. RZA
5. Ghostface
6. Inspectah Deck
7. Raekwon
8. Masta Killa
9. U-God
10. Cappadonna

List Wu Albums in order of best to worst:
1. return to the 36 chambers
2. wu tang forever
3. 8 diagrams
4. iron Flag
5. The W

Favorite Wu-Moment (e.g. concert, TV interview, etc.): When ODB interupted the Grammys, said Wu-Tang was for the children.

Top 5 affiliates:
Lemme think...Killah Priest, Hell Razah, Bronze Nazareth, Papa Wu, Mathematics

Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on December 30, 2007, 08:51:56 AM
Wu-Survey
First Encounter/Fan Since: Wu-Tang Forever / 1997
Ultimate Wu-banger: Triumph
Favorite Wu-albums: Enter The Wu-Tang, Liquid Swords, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, Wu-Tang Forever & Supreme Clientele
Favorite Wu-Moment: ODB interrupting the Grammys
Top 5 generals: Ghostface, RZA, GZA, Method Man & Raekwon
Top 5 affiliates: Killah Priest, Bronze Nazareth, Cilvaringz, Hell Razah & Trife

GZA disses 50 Cent

50 Cent's response:
http://www.zshare.net/download/60151771ff83ae/
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on December 30, 2007, 11:51:31 AM
^ Oh so that's whatcha meant. Lemme fix.

That's his 50 Cent's reply? You're old? Souljah boy is young? Shut up. Even his disses are weak. GZA said Fiddy can suck a dick! Kanye dominated YOU!
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on December 31, 2007, 11:29:13 PM
First Encounter/Fan Since: CREAM, 1990 something.
Ultimate Wu-banger: Triumph
List Wu MC's in order of best to worst: I just pick U-God as the worst.
List Wu Albums in order of best to worst: 36 Chambers, Forever, 8 Diagrams, I didn't listen to Iron Flag.  The W.
Favorite Wu-Moment (e.g. concert, TV interview, etc.):Puffy is good, but Wu-Tang is the best!  Wu-Tang is for the children
Top 5 generals & affiliates: I don't really listen to their affiliates.

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My Top Albums of 2007
Ones that come to mind.  No Order

Lupe Fiasco - The Cool
Pharoahe Monch - Desire
Common - Finding Forever
Kanye West - Graduation
Ghostface Killah - Big Doe Rehab
Talib Kweli - Ear Drum
Madlib and Talib Kweli - Liberation
9th Wonder - Dream Merchant 2
Black Milk - Popular Demand
Jay - Z - American Gangster
Wu-Tang Clan - 8 Diagrams
Little Brother - The Getback
Consequence - Don't Quit Your Day Job
DJ Jazzy Jeff - The Return of the Magnificent
One Be Lo - The R.E.B.I.R.T.H.

Disappointments of 2007

Hi-Tek - Hiteknology 3
T.I - T.I vs. T.I.P.
Uh, forgot a lot of em

Most Anticipated for 2008

MF DOOM x Ghostface Killah - Swift and Changable
Dr. Dre - Detox
Raekwon - Cuban Linx II
Shaolin Vs Wu-Tang
Nas - N*gger
Madvillain - Madvillainy 2

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For those who haven't gotten this yet

ARTiST Talib Kweli
ALBUM Focus
GENRE Rap
PLAYTiME  58:28 min
SiZE      69,9  MB
QUALiTY VBR kbps / 44,1kHz / Joint-Stereo
RiP DATE Dec-14-2007

    01 . Talib Kweli - Hip Hop Is … 01:10
    02 . Talib Kweli - The Wanna Know 05:37
    03 . Talib Kweli - Slap Feat Saigon 02:41
    04 . Talib Kweli Feat. Styles P - Real Recognize Real 02:38
    05 . Talib Kweli - What I Seen 04:43
    06 . Talib Kweli Feat. Rakim - Subway Surfin 03:09
    07 . Talib Kweli - On Fire 01:25
    08 . Talib Kweli - Prime Example 03:37
    09 . Talib Kweli - Its That Time 04:04
    10 . Talib Kweli Feat. Strong Arm Steady - Shame 04:36
    11 . Talib Kweli Feat. Jean Grae - Stars 02:41
    12 . Talib Kweli Feat. Kardinal Offishal - Stand Up 02:32
    13 . Talib Kweli Feat. Ghostface Killah - Uncut 02:36
    14 . Talib Kweli - Rise 03:00
    15 . Talib Kweli Feat. Killa Mike - Lets Go 03:04
    16 . Talib Kweli Feat. Phil The Agony - The City 03:34
    17 . Talib Kweli Feat. Snoop Dogg - Cant Ya See 03:15
    18 . Talib Kweli Feat. Mos Def - Get It 04:06

I think its just a mix of rarities.  A bunch of stuff is from his mixtapes

http://rapidshare.com/files/77220666/Talib_Kweli-Focus-2007.zip
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on January 08, 2008, 03:47:50 AM
Double Post!

The World According to Pretty Toney Bonus CD

http://www.zshare.net/download/6155455699e77e/

hilarious shit, but he actually does makes sense =P

"Wash your fucking face first man, then wash your nuts, don't wash your nuts then wash your face, you feel me? You goin' backwards"
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on January 10, 2008, 05:29:42 AM
Nas interview (The Source Jan. 08)

Nas' decade and a half in the game has taught him a lot about not just Hip-Hop but the world around him. With a greatest hits album and another controversial release on the horizon, Nas takes time to analyze the past year in an effort to chart where he's headed.

Nasir Bin Olu Dara Jones cracks a smile. His eyes aren't sleepy, his words don't trail off and his voice is sharp, cutting the room with tales from his past. "Man, I remember when you could get you a nutcracker and be good for the night," he says to one childhood friend and business associate. The two laugh at the memory. "You take one of those to the head and you're done. I got caught out there a couple times myself."

Apparently, back in the troublesome '90s, you could cop a homemade cocktail -- some modern day moonshine -- from someone's project apartment. Surrounded by a few friends at a photo shoot for this magazine, the thought of those "nutcracker" bottles sets Nas at ease and offers a glimpse at a side of Nas unfamiliar to those outside his inner circle: the man behind the Illmatic mask is a wisecracking father and friend who happens to be the preeminent poet of our generation.

With his interviews --TV, magazine and radio -- Nas has become known for his lazy speech, his monotone voice and his unexcitable demeanor. He builds walls around himself to keep you out and to keep in certain aspects of his life and his personality. It's worked in his favor up to this point. As a result, the media frenzy of celebrity internet sites, reality TV and near twenty-four hour access has yet to rob Nas of the mystique he's built since dropping Illmatic in 1994. However, with a new greatest hits album on shelves, there is a world of difference from that kid Nasty Nas, and the thiry-four year old man we see today.

"Nas then just wanted to get some money," Nas says, explaining how he's grown over the years. "I just wanted to buy this cat's aqua green Benz, with gold knobs on the lock. I wanted that and I wanted something for the crew to get their grind on in the P's. But you know how the world changes. So in between those times I had to roll with it. Looking back, time flies."

After dropping the headline-grabbing title Hip-Hop Is Dead in December 2006, he sparked a wildfire of controversy. New rappers and some "Down Bottom" artists felt targeted by his rap obituary as they were just beginning to get a full taste of the rap high life. Nas, on the other hand, maintains he was only announcing the decaying elephant carcass in the room.

"When I said Hip-Hop is dead I was trying to grab their attention to this special art form that's so important to us in the future," Nas explains. "It had nothing to do with what a guy's doing in the South or in the West. There is a place for all that. When you play Soulja Boy in the club, that's 'my ****'. But because I'm a New Yorker, I'm affected with what is happening in New York. That's just me as a fan. it makes you wake up and say, 'Where is the love for this ****?' "

Even those who believe rap is alive and kicking would admit this year has been a trying one for Hip-Hop. Don imus muttered the three infamous words that sent rap to Captiol hill to defend itself in a congressional hearing and rap executives to Oprah to help America's soccer moms understand free speech and ghetto living.

Meanwhile, Nas crafts his ninth studio album, which agains carries a controversial moniker. This is where we find Nas today: kicking back on a sofa at a photography studio, imagining what it'd be like to taste a nutcracker again and trying to make sense of it all.

You claim your next album, after the greatest hits, will be titled ******. Why open that bag of worms after Hip-Hop Is Dead?

That was the original name of the Hip-Hop Is Dead album. But when I put that name out there, Def Jam called and said to chill on the title. It was too soon. It was ahead of it's time. So Hip-Hop is Dead was appropriate as a replacement because that's also what I was feeling. The word, we took it and took the power out of it and made the power of the word benefit us. So now non-blacks that use the word don't where the **** they fit in with the word. They don't know if it holds any weight or if it doesn't. They are confused about it. Either way it made him money, and it makes us money. "******" has been both great and bad to America.

But why do we have to use it to describe ourselves?

That's an argument that didn't start this year. That's an argument that goes back before Richard Pryor. The more they come down on rap, the stronger rap becomes. Everybody forgot about us. The school system is the killing field, TV id the demon. I don't want to sound like Mr. Preacher Man but real talk, all these things we had to grow up with, the whole establishment, has been holding us back. How did we come up with rap? They took everything away from us. And the artist who invented it was destroyed.

Think there will ever be a time when you might feel differently and not use the word, like Richard Pryor famously did?

Yeah, I can see a time when it's very possible. You mature. At some point you don't want to eat certain foods or watch certain TV shows. **** gets played out. At some point, yeah, ***** can get played out to me. But as of right now, I'm a ***** for life.

So why did folks get so bent out of shape when Imus made the "Nappy Headed Ho" remark? If you're calling your album ******, were you offended by Imus' remarks?

You know, first of all, "nappy-headed" is not disrespectful to me. If you call me nappy-headed, I'm thankful for that. I love my hair, I love the texture, I love Black women's hair -- curly, knotty, dreaded, whatever. If it's permed, I like it too. Black women can do so many different things with their hair. So nappy-head is not disrespect. But I'm not falling for Don Imus' scheme. I'm not falling for Bill O'Reilly's schemes. Those cats saw the guys come before them and become filthy rich. Like Howard Stern has been saying crazy **** to women, wild **** to Black people. It's his gimmick. Those guys are entertainers. That's marketing. He did what everyone expected him to do. And he won. Imus walked away with millions and signed a new contract.

It seems like everybody id piling on. Even Oprah Winfrey put rappers on notice with that Hip-Hop centered town hall meeting.

Whatever it takes to get them to pay attention to us. Oprah Winfrey doing a show about hip-Hop is a beautiful thing. Some people are mad at Oprah, some are mad at the speakers. I love the fact that we can have a conversation. You can't expect Oprah Winfrey to sit up here and quote lyrics from Ultramagnetic MCs and understand us. She's part of us, but she's of another generation. She has a right to like what she wants to like. So if my moms was here and she spoke her opinion, you have no right to talk down to an older Black woman, a brilliant woman who really just wants to know what the **** is going on. If you want her to know and understand, someone should explain to her eloquently what this **** is about. There's a generation gap.

That was evedent this year when David Banner and Al Sharpton launched verbal missiles at each other.

Al Sharpton is our warrior, whether people like him or not. No one is perfect. Al Sharpton is going to go out there on the frontlines for us. Also, David Banner is a warrior for us. It's just two generations speaking the same thing but there is confusion along the way because somebody feel like the other is picking on the other ot that they're not understood. One thing I don't like is when our elders give up on us, turn all conservative 'cause they "made it" and start looking down on us as if their hands ain't dirty, like they weren't just like us at one time. I can't se myself ****ting on the youth. Ever.

Bin Olu Dara Jones is eyeing a big-faced diamond ring, holding it up to the light for inspection. Other assorted jewelry -- necklaces, watches -- shines on the table before him, each more magnificent than the last. Nas places the ring down and scoops a classic necklace with a crucifix dangling on the end, a more subdued choice given the gaudy treasures on display.

"Yeah. i like this one," he says to the jewelry guy who begins to delicately place the other pieces back into his carrying case. This, the renting of bling for a photo shott, is one of those backstage moments that we know exists, but the average fan doesn't get to witness firsthand. "I left all my jewels at my crib in Atlanta," Nas says, taking care to explain away any possible contradictions. "I didn't want to travel with it."

It's not like Nas hasn't been plagued with inconsistencies throughout his career. From Nasty to Nas to Esco, he's revealed his own sort of holy trinity that represents the whole person. So when O'Reilly attacks Nas for his gun talk on "Shoot Em Up," as he did, he is only seeing on side of the pyramid.
O'Reilly cleverly raised questions about Nas performing a a remembrance for Virginia Tech's thrity-two students that were gunned down on campus. O'reilly's argument is that Nas, or as he pronounced it, Nez, shouldn't be performing for kids at a university that was devastated by gun violence if he make songs about gun violence. Naturally, the man who made "I Can," an ode to the limitless potential of ghetto youth, feels differently.

"He did the Nez thing on purpose," Nas says with a chuckle. "It's marketing for him. He has people looking at him with their jaws to the floor. He's like their Dave Chappelle. You can't get mad at him because he's an actor."

Because Nas has been able to let those attacks roll on by he seems larger than the words and those who stand against him. This judo technique has even kept him relevant even as his popularity fluctuates from disc to disc. So when noteworthy comparisons arise, like the MTV controversial "Hottest Rapper" list, where Jim Jones, who is somewhat of an antagonist toward Nas, edging him out for a top ten spot, Nas is still able to see himself beyond ranking. And instead of having a Kanye West meltdown, he invites the energy and deflects it into another direction.
"I love it," he says. "It keeps the rap spirit alive. You can say Vanilla Ice is hotter than me. I don't get caught up in that ****. I'm glad that there are rap conversations and debates. People are supposed to have different rankings because different fans like different ****. I said it in a song a while ago, 'There ain't no best.' We can sit around and debate all that stuff. I'm not in the top five anymore, or the top ten. I look at myself as one of America's rap icons. There is no number one, no number ten. Just icons."

You seem to be one the few relevant rappers who regularly pays tribute to the old shcool. Is that a conscious move?"

If we don't keep that alive, we aren't going nowhere. When the rockers record they listen to Muddy Waters, they listen to John Taylor. You gotta do your homework. The heavy metal guys, The Beatles, whatever was around before, they would listen to the **** that started it all. If you listen tothe **** Kanye's doing you can tell he studies. If you don't study you can hear it in the music, and you're not going to last long.

What about popular young artists like Soulja Boy and others, they seem to be doing okay for themselves.

If you become a boxer and you don't watch tapes of Joe Louis or Muhammad Ali, how far can you go? Not just inside the ring but outside the ring as well. So that's how important it is. I think Soulja Boy is the thing right now. If he wants to stay in it though, he don't need me to tell him, he;s going to figure out where he's going by studying what's going on. That's the beauty of this ****.

You said earlier that his his record is the ****. Can you crank dat?

[laughs] My Superman is wack, but I definitely can try when I throw a few drinks back. I got to have a good time man.

The biggest story this year was Kanye vs. 50 Cent. What was your take on this SoundScan Battle?

It was cool. That **** was kinda needed. It helped Hip-Hop. With the record industry being in such a crazy slump with the whole world changing and the technology forcing people to get music in different ways, they showed you that even though things change, **** remains the same. People still go out and buy records. And Hip-Hop is still the most exciting **** ever when the right people get together and put out some ****.

Did you have any predictions?

To be honest I thought 50 would sell more records. Kanye helped kill all that first week ****. 50 bases his career off first week but we all know first week sales ain't about ****. Kanye killed the First Week King and that is a great thing for Hip-Hop 'cause *****s are not supposed to be focusing on sales like that.

How does Nas fit into the first-week frenzy?

There was a part of my life when I was into that. I was a part of that era when it started becoming a big thing. With I Am I went gold in the first week so I was kinda feeling myself. I thought I would sell even more than that! The hype was crazy, anticipation was out of control. So around that time I was really into it because it was a business. It was a race, it was a challenge, it was a competitive thing. After you go past that you realize that's not your goal. And the next record should be something totally different. So the next record I didn't focus on that.

On the political front, does Nastradamus have any 2008 predictions?

Not at the moment. I'm still ****ed up over the last election with Bush. If that could happen, I'm ready to see a new America. I think Obama would be a great face for America. The Black man's true nature is peace. All humans really want is peace. If he's the face of America, there will be peace.

You're on album number nine. What's left to do?

When I look at great music people I realize that I've just started . James Brown and all these cats were scientists. I got about ten more albums before I can consider myself in that iconic class.

Great interview  :thumbsup

On January 1st 2007 we got the Kweli/Madlib collabo and this year we got something almost as dope:
Quote
Inverse - So Far (The Collection) (download immediately!!!)
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DOWNLOAD (http://www.zshare.net/download/6080236e9cb005/)

It’s finally here folks….grab it and let us know what you think. Click above to download!
Happy New Year to all of our friends, family and fans who helped make this possible. We love y’all!

peace,

Tunj and Tob.

http://inversehiphop.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/inverse-so-far-the-collection-download-immediately/

I will definitely play some Inverse on HHH in the future :yep:
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on January 10, 2008, 07:02:17 AM
Nas is crazy  but he's mad deep on that front. I watched this BET thing where Nelly and TI were defending the state of hip hop vs the likes of university dudes and video vixens.

The World According to Pretty Toney Bonus CD

http://www.zshare.net/download/6155455699e77e/

hilarious shit, but he actually does makes sense =P

"Wash your fucking face first man, then wash your nuts, don't wash your nuts then wash your face, you feel me? You goin' backwards"

ROFL!!! Aw. And here I was fuckin scrubbing my nuts first then washing my face.

BONG BONG!! The Ruler Zig Zag Zig Allah was on Craig Ferguson. Being silly as fuck, I just wanna cop his hoodie:
(http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6708/gggaa2xn5.jpg) (http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=fb53077b-1315-41ed-bf5b-d0d278f78bb0)
http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=fb53077b-1315-41ed-bf5b-d0d278f78bb0

Check this out. Ice Cube was on local radio pimpin his new movie First Sunday and dissed JT and Snoop for not showing up at the celeb basketball league.
 Ice Cube-Team1260 01-08-08.
http://sharebee.com/0fe9f9c7

AND Kardi got a message for y'all:
Look for NEW Music & a Lot more Video Footage to start off the New Year...
YES, the ALBUM IS ON THE WAY!



Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: hide321 on January 10, 2008, 08:00:44 AM
For those trying to keep up with the American Gangster remixes go here

http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/category/american-gangster-remix-albums/

My top 10 favorite remixes of this album are
American Monsta
American DONUTShop
Beirut Gangster
American G-Funk
American Cyborg
The Blueprint III
Canadian Gangster
American Gangster Opera
American Ironman
American Godfather

But others worth checking out are:
American Anster
American Samurai
Animated Gangster
Brooklyn Soul

I still need to hear The American Dream :)
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on January 12, 2008, 10:31:47 AM
LMAO. Wth is Chinese Gangster. That intro was too funny.

OSNAP. Mos Def is coming to town:

(http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/n515027348_841716_2797.jpg) (http://s2.supload.com/free/n515027348_841716_2797.jpg/view/)(http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/n515027348_841717_3299.jpg) (http://s2.supload.com/free/n515027348_841717_3299.jpg/view/)

Canadians check ur calendar!
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on January 13, 2008, 06:38:39 AM
Method Man interview on G-Unit Radio:
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhca0R35JhdpMr9k6y
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhaI6L8CmfZsdqA6A9

U-God Sues Wu-Tang -- for $170K!
Oh, Lord! U-God, a current and performing member of the Wu-Tang Clan is actually suing his own band's music label, alleging that they owe him $170,000. Protect ya wallet! In papers filed in District Court in New York, U-God (real name: Lamont Hawkins) says that Wu Music -- which is licensed to Universal Music -- owes him the loot for a variety of his god-given hip-hop services rendered, including a tour, albums, and a European record contract, all arranged starting in March 2007. U-God has feuded with the Wu before, leaving the band in 2004 over a reported dispute with bandmate The RZA. He's since rejoined, and oddly enough, the group will be performing tomorrow night in New York City. Wu-Tang's lawyer did not return a call for comment.

http://www.tmz.com/2008/01/12/god-sues-wu-tang-for-170k/

HipHopSite's 2007 Best & Worst List
http://forum.hiphopsite.com/ShwMessage.aspx?TopicID=337141&ForumID=24&PageIndex=1&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

For those trying to keep up with the American Gangster remixes go here

Thanks, homie!
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on January 18, 2008, 06:09:07 AM
Fuck you U-God! Fire that dude and replace him with Papa Wu.

Method Man says it from the heat, straight up and down son. FUCKIN pulling no stops!

This is made me shit my pants. How this song get so popular??
[youtube=425,350]43QP2zCcE-0[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on January 20, 2008, 11:19:19 AM
Nate Dogg Paralyzed Following Stroke :shocked:

(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8881/2109604gs5.jpg)

Sad news for Nate Dogg. The singer has been left paralyzed down one side of his body after suffering a mild stroke over the festive season. Nate was admitted to Pomona Valley Hospital in California in December after a stroke in December. The thirty-nine year-old being unable to move the left side of his body, and he is now recovering in an occupational rehab faclity. His representative, Rod MCGrew, tells MTV.com: “Time will tell everything, obviously. The doctor can only guess what the outcome will be. But based on situations with similar people his age, and based on his health, the prognosis is good right now.”

SOURCE (http://blogs.sohh.com/sohhleftcoast/2008/01/nate_dogg_update_to_todays_sto.html)
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: mode107 on January 25, 2008, 10:06:12 PM
The chill 911 call (http://www.tmz.com/2008/01/16/doggs-heart-attack-chillest-911-call-ever/)

I've heard ppl talking about this lately. I guess cuz they think it's funny because of how calm she sounds

Geez, Poor Nate Dogg, hope that he recovers quickly
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: prettylovely1 on January 26, 2008, 04:58:15 AM
Wow poor Nate dogg. shocking to think about. all the awful stuff is going on in the world.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on January 26, 2008, 06:08:24 PM
Shyheim's Raekwon diss song
[youtube=425,350]hUqAZnmtqJg[/youtube]

And the reason for their beef:
[youtube=425,350]lSoK7lNPFKA[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on January 26, 2008, 07:10:35 PM
FINALLY someone to wake up Rae's fat ass. Wu-Tang need to seriously take a look at themselves and stop this infighting. WHAT happened to Voltron?

TUNE INTO HIP HOP HIZZY TONITE AT IT'S NEW TIME!! Sunday, 1-3 AM EST
http://jphip.com/radio.html#sked
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: eglue on January 28, 2008, 08:26:26 AM
everyone that looks at this thread has probably heard lupe fiasco's the cool, but if you're one who hasn't you should definately give it a listen. he talks on some real stuff. sometimes you gotta dig for it to see what he's really talkin about but when everything's pieced together, its really good. i hope his next album isnt his last as he says it is.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on January 29, 2008, 04:36:35 AM
he said that he was just gonna stop doing "regular" albums.  He's still going to be involved in the music, pushing his 1st and 15th Label and its artists, doing collabos, and/or making other concept records
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: eglue on January 29, 2008, 07:00:13 AM
he said that he was just gonna stop doing "regular" albums.  He's still going to be involved in the music, pushing his 1st and 15th Label and its artists, doing collabos, and/or making other concept records
let's hope that that CRS album they've been talkin about actually comes out.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on January 30, 2008, 09:03:09 AM
Gnarls Barkley Give New Song A 'Run' For Its Money; Firm Up Odd Couple LP

Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau. Tony Randall and Jack Klugman. And now, Brian "Danger Mouse" Burton and Thomas "Cee-Lo Green" Callaway. The first two pairs were "Odd Couples" of the Neil Simon variety. The third? Well, they're better known as Gnarls Barkley, perhaps the oddest of all odd musical teams, which is probably why they've decided to call their sophomore album The Odd Couple. (Or maybe not — seriously, who knows with those two?) That's right, according to the band's Web site, GnarlsBarkley.com, and confirmed by a spokesperson for its label, Atlantic, the dynamic duo of Danger Mouse and Cee-Lo Green will return on April 8 with Couple, the follow-up to their out-of-nowhere smash, St. Elsewhere.

There's no firm track list for Couple as of yet, but a song purportedly taken from the album — a crackling slab of soul called "Run," which recalls Sam & Dave's R&B classic "Hold on, I'm Comin' " — hit file-sharing sites late Monday, setting the Internet ablaze with hyperbole and hyperventilation. It sure sounded a lot like a Gnarls track (we'd recognize Green's caterwaul anywhere), and on Tuesday (January 29), Atlantic confirmed to MTV News that it is, in fact, the genuine article. What else can fans expect from The Odd Couple? Well, according to several reports, Gnarls are still putting the finishing touches on the album in Los Angeles. And while no other details have been released, we can say it's going to be a labor of love.

"[W]e're going to do it at our pace," Danger Mouse told MTV News backstage at Baltimore's Virgin Festival in September (where they were dressed, naturally, as extras from "Spartacus"), when they had only recorded a few demos. "If we love what's coming out, then we'll do another record; if we don't love it the way we loved [St. Elsewhere], well, then we won't do it."

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1580516/20080129/gnarls_barkley.jhtml?rsspartner=rssMozilla

Gnarls Barkley - Run
http://sharebee.com/a0123133
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: eglue on January 30, 2008, 06:34:23 PM
(http://www.kanyeuniversecity.com/client_images/kanyewest/3106_e43764092e777576857fd61c7cb0bd5f.jpg)
 :w00t:
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: num2son on February 01, 2008, 03:45:27 PM
Major thanks to Masa and daigong

First Encounter/Fan Since:
Da mystery of chessboxin music video back in 1993 and been a fan since

Ultimate Wu-banger:
Da Mystery of Chessboxin'

List Wu MC's
Gza
Inspectah Deck
Rza
Ghost
Masta Killa
U-God
Meth
Odb
Rae


List Wu Albums in order of best to worst:
Wu-Tang Forever (Hip-Hop Classic to me)
Enter The 36 Chambers
8 Diagrams
The W
Iron Flag

Top 5 Wu Solo Albums:
Liquid Swords
Only Built For Cuban Linx
Ironman
The Pillage
Tical

Favorite Wu-Moment (e.g. concert, TV interview, etc.):
Gza and Rza with bill Murray (Deliruim)
Gza: And you're bill Murray, Bill "Ground Hog Day Ghostbustin Ass" Murray
(http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/8992/deliruim6lt3of5.gif) (http://imageshack.us)

Top 5 generals & affiliates:
1. Mathematics
2. Killarmy
3. Bronze Nazareth
4. Cappadonna
5. Cilvaringz

When it comes to rza beats they are to many to mention that I like.

WU-TANG FOREVER

Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: num2son on February 01, 2008, 04:06:17 PM
I do like the 8 Diagrams album also.

Favorite tracks:
Campfire
Take It Back
Get 'Em Out Ya Way Pa
Rushing Elephants
Wolves
Sunlight
Stick me for my Riches
Windwill
Weak Spot
16 Chamber
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: num2son on February 17, 2008, 01:08:29 AM
[youtube=425,350]Vvn598cvlic[/youtube]

Wu-Tang Clan - Take It Back (Official Video?)
Raekwons name is spelled wrong near the end of the video "Raewkwon"
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: daigong on February 19, 2008, 09:03:57 AM
^ LMAO FINALLY!!! So fuckin cheap, someone made it using Windows Movie Maker? JEsus. XD

(http://www.kanyeuniversecity.com/client_images/kanyewest/3106_e43764092e777576857fd61c7cb0bd5f.jpg)
 :w00t:

Copped me some floor seats 8)

Here's the tour dates:

4/16 Seattle, WA - Key Arena
4/18 Sacramento, CA - ARCO Arena
4/19 San Jose, CA - HP Pavilion
4/20 San Diego, CA - San Diego Sports Arena
4/27 Denver, CO - Pepsi Center
5/01 Dallas, TX - Superpages.com Center
5/02 Woodlands, TX - Woodlands Pavilion
5/23 Chicago, IL - United Center
5/24 Minneapolis, MN - Target Center
5/27 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan - Credit Union Centre
5/29 Edmonton, Rexall Place
5/30 Calgary, Alberta - Pengrowth Saddledome
6/12 Manchester, TN - Bonnaroo Festival

Is that it :? :?

cant find any other sources.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: cool_kickin_dude on February 22, 2008, 12:40:52 PM
finally bought Wu-Tang Forever last night(yep I'm cheesy! XD) anyhoo, should have seen the beat I dropped..

"Charge it to the WU, can I get a SU~"
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Masa on February 23, 2008, 08:17:37 AM
The Roots' Next CD: Track By Track

Tariq ''Black Thought'' Trotter and Ahmir ''?uestlove'' Thompson invite EW into the recording studio for an early listen to ''Rising Down'' (to be released April 29), with the story behind each song

THE ROOTS An early listen reveals their upcoming CD Rising Down to be darkly funky, politically charged, and filled with special guests

By Simon Vozick-Levinson
On April 29, the Roots will unveil Rising Down — the latest step in the six-member Philadelphia hip-hop band's 15-year evolution on record. The darkly funky, politically charged project is now almost done after more than a year of recording, though it is currently missing contributions from planned guest artists Common, Lupe Fiasco, and Q-Tip.

Earlier this week, EW stopped by the Manhattan studio where rapper Tariq ''Black Thought'' Trotter, 35, and drummer/producer Ahmir ''?uestlove'' Thompson, 37, are working on some final touches, and scored an early listen to the still unsequenced 12-track set.

''RISING DOWN'' (possible alternate title: ''Humdrum'') Guest rappers Mos Def and Styles P join Trotter in unleashing a slew of dystopian imagery over heavy, atmospheric synths. ''It's not an intro, but more an introduction to the topical theme of the album,'' Trotter says. ''Mos kicks it off from one perspective. My verse is about global warming and how the world is all haywire. And Styles P is rapping about prescription-drug campaigns, the stuff they advertise on TV, all the crazy side effects. We're all dealing with different aspects of the state of the world.''

''GET BUSY'' It's a Philly celebration, with verses from longtime protégé Dice Raw (''kinda like W.E.B. DuBois/Meets Heavy D and the Boys'') and more recent associate Peedi Peedi as well as scratches from DJ Jazzy Jeff. The beat's driven by an aggressive, grinding bassline. ''That's the return of the boom-bap,'' says Trotter. ''We're revisiting golden-era East Coast hip-hop, but the synthesizers make it modern.'' Adds an oracular Thompson: ''What was 20 years ago is also tomorrow.''

''BLACK'S RECONSTRUCTION'' Trotter raps for 75 bars straight on this lyrical exercise, spitting effortless game (''Smooth like the dude Sean Connery was playing'') over a dirty drumbeat and foghorn-like tuba moans. ''It was a first take,'' notes Trotter. (Show-off!) ''That's a song in the tradition of 'Web' and 'Thought @ Work'. It's become something that die-hard fans check for, that extended freestyle, minimal chorus, hard-hitting lyrical joint.''

''APOLOGIZE'' Thompson calls this rhythmic, brass-laced cut (also featuring Dice Raw) a tribute to late Afrobeat legend Fela Kuti. Trotter's lyrics examine the challenges of today's music industry: ''Look into my daughter's eyes/Wonder, how can I provide?'' ''It's about not apologizing for what you are,'' Thompson elaborates. ''Dice Raw's verse does his commentary on how the new minstrel image of black people is in vogue now — how that's the image that's being sold to you. It's really hard to hold on to your dignity and not resort to shucking and jiving to sell records.''

''CRIMINAL'' (possible alternate title: ''Pay the Bills'') A simmering meditation on street life, still awaiting a guest verse from Saigon. ''It's about being persecuted and having no other alternative,'' Trotter says. ''You could also see it from the angle of the Rockefeller laws,'' adds Thompson, ''certain groups of people get persecuted and others get away with it.'' Chuckling sardonically, Trotter concludes: ''That [song] is a light-hearted one! It's a happy album...''

''I CAN'T HELP IT'' Trotter says this harrowing tale of addiction, bustling with keyboard burbles and ethereal background vocals, is about ''giving in or not giving in to your urges.'' ''I can't help it/Maybe I'm selfish,'' he raps. ''The way I'm running is becoming a health risk/I might have a heart attack, I'm taking more pills than Elvis.''

''SINGER MAN'' Two little-known guest rappers chime in on this unsettling multipart suite, which segues from a spare bass drone to a backmasked, drumless ambient section. ''That's three different first-person accounts of people that felt justifiable violence,'' says Thompson. Trotter raps in the voice of ''an African child soldier fighting for Charles Taylor in Sierra Leone''; Truck North takes on the role of a suicide bomber; and the very unfortunately named emcee Porn explores the perspective of a school shooter.

''UP THERE'' ''It was a cold night/Not cold like the winter, but I can feel an energy in the air that I don't like'': Another claustrophobic narrative, backed by melting synths and an eerie vocal loop. Trotter compares its steady crescendo to 1996's ''Panic''. ''It's a dream sequence. Some person is driving me through this place where I see my life, like a drive-in movie. Then the guy disappears, and I'm being carjacked. It's one of those things like the 'You Got Me' video, where [the plot is] left wide open — it's in the eye of the beholder.''

''LOST DESIRE'' Urgent verses from Talib Kweli (who shouts out his new project Idle Warship) and former Roots member Malik B anchor another look at contemporary social ills: ''No one cares what the truth is/It's a fortress built on lies,'' goes the hook. ''Malik and I are always the yin and yang of Philadelphia,'' says Trotter. ''He represents the street, that accurate commentary, and I'm kind of the polar opposite of that. So we balance each other out on the song, and Kweli's in the middle, talking about what goes on in Brooklyn.''

''THE SHOW MUST GO ON'' Cascading drums and a serrated synth texture set off the song that Common is expected to appear on. (''He promised his left arm if he doesn't get us his verse!'' kids Thompson.) ''It's about where we are at this point in our career, why we do it — a more introspective, personal type of joint,'' says Trotter. ''I'm saying some fly s--- on that song. I like those verses, boy!''

''RISING UP'' The title track's counterpart has a far lighter tone, courtesy of two fresh-faced guests: soulful songbird Chrisette Michele and much-buzzed-about Washington, D.C., rapper Wale. ''Where 'Rising Down' is one of the darker moments of the album, 'Rising Up' is the beacon of hope,'' says Trotter, who boasts on the song's hook that he's ''getting paper like John Travolta.'' The track's beat calls to mind the polyrhythmic pulse of Washington's go-go scene — an unexpectedly touchy subject, it turns out. ''It's more percussive than your average Roots song,'' Trotter continues with a grin. ''But Wale, who's a die-hard 23-year-old D.C. native, just refuses to accept that as go-go in any way, shape or form: 'What?! Oh, that ain't no go-go jam!' So it's our attempt at something quasi go-go-esque.''

''BIRTHDAY GIRL'' Summery guitar chords and an ultra-catchy hook sung by Fall Out Boy's Patrick Stump have made this the leading contender for Rising Down's first single. It's a pleasant breeze of a song — at least until you notice the vaguely creepy lyrics, in which Stump and Trotter fondly address an adoring female fan on the occasion of her 18th birthday. ''It's based on experiences that we all go through today, as musicians and as parents,'' Trotter says. ''It deals with what our daughters are exposed to, the effects of My Super Sweet 16, reality TV, all this crazy s---.'' Thompson, however, laughs off the song as a hip-hop Lolita: ''It's the most beautiful statutory rape song ever!''

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20179171_2,00.html

The Roots - Black's Reconstruction
http://sharebee.com/381f6892
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: eglue on February 23, 2008, 09:16:24 AM
Copped me some floor seats 8)

Here's the tour dates:

4/16 Seattle, WA - Key Arena
4/18 Sacramento, CA - ARCO Arena
4/19 San Jose, CA - HP Pavilion
4/20 San Diego, CA - San Diego Sports Arena
4/27 Denver, CO - Pepsi Center
5/01 Dallas, TX - Superpages.com Center
5/02 Woodlands, TX - Woodlands Pavilion
5/23 Chicago, IL - United Center
5/24 Minneapolis, MN - Target Center
5/27 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan - Credit Union Centre
5/29 Edmonton, Rexall Place
5/30 Calgary, Alberta - Pengrowth Saddledome
6/12 Manchester, TN - Bonnaroo Festival

Is that it :? :?

cant find any other sources.
man...how much did the floor seats cost you? my ticket was like $65 and its about mid way up.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: num2son on February 26, 2008, 02:28:14 PM
finally bought Wu-Tang Forever last night(yep I'm cheesy! XD)......

LOL, finally?
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on February 27, 2008, 05:23:19 AM
Sick, i just saw this

Video for Madvillain - Accordian
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rpaonSDPw7Y

Filmed in 2004, but just released for the StonesThrow DVD "In Living The True Gods"
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: Mugen on March 03, 2008, 08:22:12 AM
FUCK Kanye West's Glow In The Dark Tour is coming to vancouver in june 2 (i would be gone though to japan -.-) and the tickets are so cheap too!!!


Rihanna (my secrety lover), N.E.R.D. & Lupe Fiasco going to be there too  :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: StreakInTheSky on March 03, 2008, 06:53:08 PM
Sick, i just saw this

Video for Madvillain - Accordian
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rpaonSDPw7Y

Filmed in 2004, but just released for the StonesThrow DVD "In Living The True Gods"

I still prefer All Caps :P
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: eglue on March 03, 2008, 08:25:40 PM
FUCK Kanye West's Glow In The Dark Tour is coming to vancouver in june 2 (i would be gone though to japan -.-) and the tickets are so cheap too!!!


Rihanna (my secrety lover), N.E.R.D. & Lupe Fiasco going to be there too  :cry: :cry:

sorry man...that sucks. at least you're going to japan though. it is gonna be a sweet concert though.
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: claymore on March 17, 2008, 05:10:16 PM
http://www.whudat.com/newsblurbs/more/dmx_on_politics_and_barack_obama_barack_that_aint_his_name_1680315081/
Title: Re: The Official Rap Thread
Post by: MochaNutz on March 17, 2008, 05:54:34 PM
hahah
I see what he�