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New TGV world speed record
« on: April 03, 2007, 12:06:28 PM »
today 1:35pm
The French high-speed TGV broke its own rail speed record with 574,7 km/h ( 356.67 mph )


length: 106 meters / weighs: 268 tons.
It is equipped with two engines, developing 19.6 megawatt ( more than 25,000 horsepower ( > 2 x F1 lineups ) ).


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Re: New TGV world speed record
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2007, 01:54:05 PM »
only one word, goood job!!!!!!!
ops two word ^^

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Re: New TGV world speed record
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2007, 02:42:36 PM »
It would be much more interesting to see how fast it could have gone without ~€30millions worth of modifications.....

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Re: New TGV world speed record
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2007, 04:06:03 PM »
^
320km/h

every performances have costs ;)
the japanese bullet is less compatible, runs shorter distances and cost more than $40 Million ...



http://www.record2007.com/site/index_en.php

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Re: New TGV world speed record
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2007, 05:27:53 PM »
the japanese bullet is less compatible, runs shorter distances and cost more than $40 Million ...

yes but the shinkansen fulfills a very large percentage of accessibility across the japanese archipelago: ie, cities like tokyo, yokohama, nagoya, kyoto, and osaka are already connected, and there's not very many places the shinkansen can expand. the supposed promise of this new record is its expansion through metropolitan europe, and considering how big europe is... that's a lot of additional development costs above 30mil EU.

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Re: New TGV world speed record
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2007, 01:54:50 PM »
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320km/h

every performances have costs ;)
the japanese bullet is less compatible, runs shorter distances and cost more than $40 Million ...

http://www.record2007.com/site/index_en.php

I guess 320km/h is what it does in normal, everyday operations, with passengers.
It would be pretty lousy otherwise as even older Shinkansen or ICE can go 330+ (usually ~300 in normal operations).

As I understand it, the €30mil were spent additionally to the cost of the train, to make modifications to the wheels, engine and the track itself.

My question of how fast it could go without these was because for normal passengers, it would be much more interesting to see what they could get out of it without having their head spin (One TV report said that many of those onboard the record train felt dizzy after getting off).
Maybe I'm wrong but it feels like you think I wanted to insult the record or make it look less impressive - I was, however, just doubting it's usefulness a bit.
Potential buyers will know that the train can't do that with passengers and that a lot of parts would need to be replaced after every run. Plus, it would most likely be extremly noisy.

If you compare the geography of France/Europe to Japan you can easily see why (Shinkansen) trains that run even faster than the current models don't make much sense. It's difficult for them to build long, straight tracks so it makes much more sense for them to improve speed on curvy tracks.

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Re: New TGV world speed record
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2007, 02:30:54 PM »
yup 320km/h is the best commercial speed it does.

the cost is mainly due to infrastructure and wheels and actually it's difficult to compare shinkansen and TGV since they do not use the same technology.
It was just a record to make an international impact I guess.
They are preparing a new TGV which will runs at 360km/h.

If you compare the geography of France/Europe to Japan you can easily see why (Shinkansen) trains that run even faster than the current models don't make much sense. It's difficult for them to build long, straight tracks so it makes much more sense for them to improve speed on curvy tracks.
and I think that there are more tunnels in Japan ( pressure changes )

(One TV report said that many of those onboard the record train felt dizzy after getting off).
I read that too and I'm not really surprise




lol it reminds me the Airbus380 effect xD
the 1st trip was a success ...

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