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anybody heard the mixtape called Purple Codeine? It has T.I. and a few other guests. I've been wanting to hear more of it.

Purple Codeine 10 is the latest one i think.  I saw it on a few bt sites, but never bothered to get em.

anyone check the Sa-Ra - The Hollywood Recordings?  They're signed under Kanye's Good Music label.  Its a group of 3 guys.  its pretty good from what i'm hearing.  I heard its not really their official first album though.  Monch, Dilla, Kweli, Bilal Capone N Noreaga, and a bunch more are on it.
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^ sounds like a dope lineup. Guess Kanye be producing too. Their site has some samples and even Dre! Kanye! gave em props: http://www.srcpmusic.com/



Copped me some fuckin tix to Masta Killa's show next week! Hope he don't cancel like Deck :/



He's also hitting Toronto and Calgary, more info here:
http://www.hiphopcanada.com/_site/community/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=39804&sid=e2bd650b5de187b238e050852746b67c
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Lately I've listened to old school basketball rap. With the YEEEEWWS and YOOOOOWS. The biggest guys always in the back chanting.
Like Naughty by nature. And I just fell in love with the backgrounds of kriss kross's jump.

Peace... ohh and Wu-tang released 208 on their website for free. Feel free to check them out and download. I know I did :D


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yeah, masta killa is here in t.o, like this week or next, or past already?

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^ yep. in the link above:

[Sunday May 20th, 2007 -> TORONTO @ El Mocambo]

> online @ www.ticketweb.ca

Play deRecord - 357a Yonge Street, (Toronto) 416-586-0380
Rotate This! - 620 Queen St. W. (Toronto) 416-504-8447
Bomb Shelter – 166A Spadina (Toronto) (416) 203-6676
Soundscapes - 572 College St (Toronto) 416.537.1620
Nappy’s - 23 Dundas E (Mississauga) 905.949.6787
Nappy’s - 83 Kennedy Rd S (Brampton) 905.453.3037
Nappy’s- 7381 Kennedy Rd ( Markham) 905.948.0884
Hustler Snowboards - 111 Kerr St. ( Oakville ) 905.844.1688
Dr.Disc - 20 Wilson St (Hamilton) 905-523-1010

You can prolly get em at the door. I dunno if there's gonna be a huge crowd Friday as compared to say Ice Cube, who's hitting a smaller venue at WEM


SHIT! New Common, fuckin nice.

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Went to the local club and expected Masta Killa but they told us at the door he had to resked SO Hell Razah of Sunz of Man stepped in lol

We got local MC's and DJs for a good 2-3 hours - DOPE, spewing the politix of popular night clubs being racist haha


Then Hell Razah shows up, spewed his set but --- I was already fuckin wasted to even notice wiggaz acting a fool.



Cop some cell phone video, works on quicktime:
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NOT bad. RENAISSANCE!! BURIED ALIVE!!! WE KEPT YELLING as he was pimpin his new solo joint (I posted links somewhere in this thread). Met him afterwards and pimped JPHiP.com and he told me to email him lol "Double R @ yahoo"

More Hell Razah: http://myspace.com/razahrubiez

The crowd was sparse, it's pretty shit that the local crowd don't know Sunz of Man. Hopefully Masta Killa WILL show up in 2 months as promised.



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Went to the local club and expected Masta Killa but they told us at the door he had to resked SO Hell Razah of Sunz of Man stepped in lol

We got local MC's and DJs for a good 2-3 hours - DOPE, spewing the politix of popular night clubs being racist haha


Then Hell Razah shows up, spewed his set but --- I was already fuckin wasted to even notice wiggaz acting a fool.



Cop some cell phone video, works on quicktime:
Hell Razah_etown_05-19-07 DOWNLOAD
http://www.mediafire.com/?bqxtpyu97z1

NOT bad. RENAISSANCE!! BURIED ALIVE!!! WE KEPT YELLING as he was pimpin his new solo joint (I posted links somewhere in this thread). Met him afterwards and pimped JPHiP.com and he told me to email him lol "Double R @ yahoo"

More Hell Razah: http://myspace.com/razahrubiez

The crowd was sparse, it's pretty shit that the local crowd don't know Sunz of Man. Hopefully Masta Killa WILL show up in 2 months as promised.




Dope, Hell Razah is ill.  His latest album very VERY well put together (and, so far, my 2nd favorite album of this year).  But, I think its weird how they didnt give refunds to those who paid to see Masta Killa.

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Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM "8 DIAGRAM" 07.07.07)
« Reply #368 on: May 24, 2007, 05:37:03 AM »
^ Oh they promised 20 dollars off (ticket cost 30) when he rebooks in 2 mths.

Yeah...the local MC's were dope...but fuckin Hell Razah just split they wigs!!! Makes me so jealous of guys near the Rock The Bells locales or wherever Wu-Tang is gonna show up. GZA doing the ENTIRE Liquid Swords album from Track 1 to Track 13 --- IF WU is coming to a theater near YOU! Best check em out SON!


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Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM "8 DIAGRAM" 07.07.07)
« Reply #369 on: May 25, 2007, 12:00:28 PM »
GZA doing the ENTIRE Liquid Swords album from Track 1 to Track 13
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*in a Kool Keith voice* I don't believe you! O0

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Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM "8 DIAGRAMS" 07.07.07)
« Reply #370 on: May 27, 2007, 08:24:16 AM »
Right here dude.
http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/11554


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Gza Set To Perform "Liquid Swords" In Its Entirety
Monday - May 7, 2007 by Janeé Bolden

The Wu-Tang Clan's GZA is scheduled to perform his critically acclaimed debut Liquid Swords in its entirety at the Pitchfork Music Festival in July.

Released in 1995, Liquid Swords featured appearances from all the members of the Wu-Tang which include the RZA, Raekwon, Ghostface, Method Man, U-God, Masta Killa, Inspectah Deck and the late Ol' Dirty Bastard. The album is considered by fans to be one of the best solo albums released by any member of the New York rap collective.

GZA's performance will take place in Chicago's UnionPark on July 13. It has not been confirmed if any Wu members will take the stage with him. Tickets for the event are currently available via ticketweb.com.

As SOHH previously reported, GZA and his Wu-Tang brethren are currently working on their fifth group album titled 8 Diagrams. The group will also be sharing the stage with Public Enemy and Rage Against The Machine at this year's Rock The Bells North American festival series.


If I could go to Chicago-man, I would NOW :jerk:

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Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM "8 DIAGRAMS" 07.07.07)
« Reply #371 on: June 02, 2007, 08:39:12 PM »
Pharoahe Fucking Monch Desire is ripped!

edit: apparently its the advance.

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for those who wanna hear a radio rip of Kanye West - Stronger

http://www.zshare.net/audio/21101298a8ec30/
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Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM "8 DIAGRAMS" 07.07.07)
« Reply #372 on: June 03, 2007, 11:39:12 PM »
Ghostface.Killah.of.Wu-Tang.Clan-Live.In.NYC.DVDRiP.XViD







Download
http://lix.in/6d1c14

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Re: The Official Rap Thread (NEW WU-TANG ALBUM "8 DIAGRAMS" 07.07.07)
« Reply #374 on: June 17, 2007, 09:20:04 AM »
Can rap regain its crown?

Not long ago, rap dominated album sales charts. Now, the music that has been a driving creative and commercial force in American culture is struggling to get its swagger back. The music industry is suffering across-the-board drops in CD sales, but rap is in a steeper slide: This year, rap sales are down 33% from 2006, twice the decline for the industry overall, according to Nielsen SoundScan. Five years ago, Eminem's album The Eminem Show was atop the Billboard chart, on its way to becoming the runaway best-selling album that year, with 7.6 million copies. Since then, no rap album has sold as well.

Established rap stars no longer are sure things in sales. During the past nine months, Jay-Z, Ludacris, Snoop Dogg, Diddy and Nas released albums, but only those by Jay-Z and Ludacris have sold at least 1 million copies in the USA, and only Diddy is still on the charts. Rap's decline can be traced to a range of factors, including marketing strategies that have de-emphasized album sales in favor of selling less-lucrative single songs and short versions of those singles as ring tones for cellphones. But more important to the industry, there are signs that many music-buying Americans — particularly the young, largely white audience that can make a difference between modest and blockbuster sales — are tiring of rappers' emphasis on "gangsta" attitudes, explicit lyrics and tales of street life and conspicuous consumption.

Within the rap industry, there's a growing debate about whether years of rampant commercialism — Snoop Dogg now endorses Pony sneakers; 50 Cent peddles grape-flavored vitamin water — have drained credibility and creativity out of a once-vibrant genre of music. And there's concern that rap, also known as hip-hop, has reached an evolutionary plateau: After more than a quarter-century on the charts, it's no longer the radical newcomer.

Rap pioneer KRS-One, who just released Hip Hop Lives with fellow legend Marley Marl, offers a blunt explanation. "The music is garbage," he says. "What has happened over the past few years is that we have traded art for money, simple and plain, and the public is not stupid."

Chuck Creekmur, co-founder of hip-hop news website Allhiphop.com, says rap once was known for creative storytelling and clever rhymes, but now is being undermined by a lack of both. "A lot of these albums now are looking to duplicate the success" of whatever is hot at the moment, he says. "There is a lack of variety."

An industry force no more

Whatever's causing consumers to tune out, it's clear that rap no longer dominates the music industry. In 2006, rap sold 59.1 million albums, down 21% from 2005 and 27% from 2004. Sales are trailing those for country albums (75 million) and heavy metal (61.6 million) — genres that rap formerly overshadowed.In 2006, for the first time in five years, no rap albums were among the year's 10 biggest sellers, a list led by the soundtrack to Disney's High School Musical, which sold 3.7 million copies. Compare that with 2003, when 50 Cent's Get Rich or Die Tryin' ranked No. 1 with 6.5 million copies.

This year's top-selling albums thus far are by American Idol rocker Chris Daughtry's band and jazz chanteuse Norah Jones. The rap industry is pinning hopes on 50 Cent's Curtis, due Sept. 4, and Kanye West's Graduation Day, expected in late August, as well as releases by Eminem and Dr. Dre that could arrive before the end of the year. But those albums may not be enough to salvage the sales numbers for this year, and it's unclear whether 50 Cent or Eminem can match their past sales.

A genre is born

Hip-hop was born out of DJ-hosted block parties in the Bronx, N.Y., in the early 1970s and evolved with emcees "rapping" over the beats the DJs played. The genre hit the Top 40 with the Sugar Hill Gang's Rapper's Delight in 1979. Rap soon became, as Public Enemy's Chuck D described it, "the CNN of black culture," encompassing everything from party tales to political commentaries, especially from the view of poor and disaffected urban youths. Rap found an audience not only in cities but in mostly white suburbs, as well.

By the 1990s, a harder-edged version of rap that glorified gang life began to dominate music and influence youth culture. Its songs and videos typically depict violence and drug dealers awash in diamonds and platinum jewelry, champagne and scantily clad women. Rap became a multibillion-dollar-a-year global industry, influencing fashion, lifestyles and language while selling everything from SUVs to personal computers. Rap's declining sales haven't escaped the attention of its kingpins. Declaring that hip-hop needed saving, Jay-Z ended a three-year retirement in November with his CD Kingdom Come, in which he essentially cast himself as Superman trying to save hip-hop.

A month later, Nas decried rap's lack of originality on his disc Hip Hop Is Dead: "Everybody sound the same, commercialize the game / Reminiscin' when it wasn't all business / They forgot where it started / So we all gather here for the dearly departed." Rap may not be dead, but it's significantly weakened, in part by its own doing, music analysts say. The industry's longtime strategy of pushing singles to sell albums has backfired in the digital age, says Felicia Palmer, president of 4Control Media and founder of the hip-hop news website SOHH.com. Digital sales have outstripped CD sales, but not yet to a degree that compensates for the price difference between a 99-cent download and a $19.99 CD.

A just-released survey by the website found 82% of nearly 700 respondents are purchasing fewer albums than in previous years, and 67% acknowledge that they have illicitly downloaded albums rather than pay for them. One reason: 69% say they're "not inspired by many albums." "People have gotten smart and know that (record companies) usually put out the two best singles, and the rest of the album is usually garbage," Palmer says. Labels need to do more to help artists build their fan bases with promotional tours, which help consumers buy into the performer and not just a song, says Michael "Blue" Williams, who manages Outkast and other urban acts.

"People like hot music, but we are still not making artists who matter across the board," Williams says. "So while the labels are screaming that the sky is falling, they are trapped in their own vicious cycle of having to chase each single." Promoting singles means getting favorable airplay, and that's more difficult now that hip-hop isn't the "only contemporary music that matters," as it was just a few years ago, says Sean Ross of Edison Media Research. "Three years ago, you wouldn't have wanted to be a Top 40 station playing Bright Lights by (pop/rockers) Matchbox Twenty while your competitor was playing Get Low by (rapper) Lil Jon," Ross says. "Now, Top 40 has Daughtry and Gwen Stefani, as well as a lot of quasi hip-hop from artists like Fergie and the Pussycat Dolls that, for some listeners, fill the same need as the real thing." The real thing may no longer be real enough. Glenn Peoples, founder and editor of music industry blog Coolfer.com, says: "A lot of people who used to listen to rap are now listening to rock. Rock is really strong right now."

'The public has made a choice'

Part of hip-hop's attraction has been the assumed authenticity of its lyrics and artists, but now, many younger listeners "believe that so much of what the mainstream (rap) industry does is orchestrated," says Bakari Kitwana, author of the books The Hip Hop Generation and Why White Kids Love Hip Hop. "I don't think they have a lot of confidence in the music the industry is producing." For years, increasing sales of rap albums effectively muted protests about some songs' promotion of misogyny, racism and violence. Now, dwindling receipts and fading interest in rap have provided what some in the industry see as an opportunity to rethink content.

"The public has made a choice," KRS-One says. "They're saying, 'We do not want the nonsense that we see and hear on radio, and we are not putting our money there.' Rap music is being boycotted by the American public because of the images that we are putting forward." The rising angst about rap lyrics was spotlighted this spring during the fallout over radio talk-show host Don Imus' smearing of the Rutgers University women's basketball team. Imus called team members "hos," then later noted in his defense that the word is commonly used in rap songs to describe women.

Soon after, hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons called a meeting of music industry executives. His Hip-Hop Summit Action Network later recommended that the rap industry voluntarily delete or bleep out offensive terms for broadcast. Such efforts have drawn mixed reactions from rappers. Master P, who built his multimillion-dollar No Limit Records empire on gangsta rap in the '90s, announced plans to start a new label, Take A Stand Records, with his son Romeo. He says he has been part of the problem and now wants to be part of the solution with clean, positive music. That idea was derided by 50 Cent, who said he has no intention of cleaning up his lyrics. "Music is a mirror, and hip-hop is a reflection of the environment we grew up in," he said at a news conference. "If I ask you to paint a picture of the American flag and not use the color red, you're going to have a difficult time."

A new business model

Content questions aside, rap faces the same challenge that has alarmed much of the music industry: how to adapt to the digital revolution. "What we have to do is figure out what the new music business is," says Kevin Liles, executive vice president of Warner Music Group, home to artists such as DJ Quik, Lil Scrappy and E-40. "There was a time when an artist like a Jay-Z or DMX or 50 Cent would sell 4 million or 5 million CDs. But there's a new climate. Artists like Young Jeezy might sell 2 million albums, but 6 million ring tones." Recent sales by rap star Mims reflect the problems facing the industry. His single This Is Why I'm Hot has done well this year, selling 634,000 downloads and 1.9 million ring tones, the 2007 leader in ring tones so far. But the album that contains This Is Why I'm Hot hasn't been so hot, selling only 231,000 copies. Music Is My Savior is No. 100 on Billboard's albums chart 11 weeks after its release.

Rap's early stars, from Grandmaster Flash to Public Enemy and LL Cool J, "touched on humor, politics, ghetto life and realities they faced," says music consultant Tom Vickers. "Rap has gradually degenerated from an art form into a ring tone. It's a hip catchphrase or a musical riff with a short shelf life. It has a novelty element that captures the listener's imagination, but it's not a song. It won't build a career. That's why we're seeing this backlash." To rebound, he says, "rap has to look at the bigger issues confronting society. There's only so much bling the public can take." The upside for rap, Kitwana says, is that so much of it "remains off the mainstream radar. You never know when hip-hop is going to reinvent itself, or when something operating out on the fringe is going to emerge and become the next new thing."

http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2007-06-14-rap-decline_N.htm

Pharoahe Fucking Monch Desire is ripped!

Talib Kweli - Ear Drum Advance
Dopeness, I'm feeling both albums and I wouldn't be surprised if they both ended up being in my top5 albums of the year list  :yep:

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Re: The Official Rap Thread
« Reply #375 on: June 18, 2007, 10:59:00 AM »
I could really care less if rap/hip-hop gets better sales, as long as the mc's and dj's are making good shit. Most of my favorite hip-hop wasn't even on the top of the charts, unless they were from back in the day. lol

I think this really says it all.

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Rap's early stars, from Grandmaster Flash to Public Enemy and LL Cool J, "touched on humor, politics, ghetto life and realities they faced," says music consultant Tom Vickers. "Rap has gradually degenerated from an art form into a ring tone. It's a hip catchphrase or a musical riff with a short shelf life. It has a novelty element that captures the listener's imagination, but it's not a song. It won't build a career. That's why we're seeing this backlash." To rebound, he says, "rap has to look at the bigger issues confronting society. There's only so much bling the public can take." The upside for rap, Kitwana says, is that so much of it "remains off the mainstream radar. You never know when hip-hop is going to reinvent itself, or when something operating out on the fringe is going to emerge and become the next new thing."

Most popular mainstreem hip-hop is fucking club shit and stupid songs with stupid little lines that get stuck in your head like "this is why I'm hot" and "walk it out". And even if they are not, they are mostly just re-used beats and loops, with lyrics that we've all heard before.

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Re: The Official Rap Thread
« Reply #376 on: June 20, 2007, 11:19:55 AM »
I'm a huge fan of hip hop, so I figure I'll share 2 albums I'm really into as an introduction post here.

1.) The World is Ours - Ill Poetic

I can't even find the words to describe how much I love this album, it's really original! If you don't download this, you are seriously missing out.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/tzvx84

2.) Def vs. Doom - MF Doom and Mos Def

Another album I love! I'm a huge fan of MF Doom and Mos Def, so this is a must have for fans.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ysea2f

Enjoy and feel free to share your thoughts about them
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Re: The Official Rap Thread
« Reply #377 on: June 30, 2007, 05:52:07 PM »
^ You've got excellent taste there Sabrina. There are some underground Kats who have good production, but flow is kinda weak. I like me some Ice Cube, Ghostface, Chuck D MC's.

Rap has been dead since 2Pac and Biggie got killed...and cat in the hat, Dr. Seuss MF'ers like Puffy  dominated the charts. The whole genre is dominated with over-produced beats by the lieks of Timbaland and Neptunes. I'm still waiting for a BOMB SQUAD type production that did classic Public Enemy albums. Dope beats, killer MC's.

Wu-Tang Clan is touring around the world....who's lucky enough to go to a show? I think their album is being delayed till September -_-

EUROPE

06/28/2007 05:00 PM - ITALY at STADIO FRIULI, Udine
06/29/2007 05:00 PM - FRANCE at EUROCKEENES, Belfort
06/30/2007 05:00 PM - SPAIN at ZARAGOZA CIUDAD, Zaragoza
07/01/2007 05:00 PM - ROMANIA at BESTIVAL, Bucharest
07/03/2007 05:00 PM - GERMANY at STADTHALLE, Offenbach
07/04/2007 05:00 PM - FRANCE at ZENITH, Paris
07/05/2007 05:00 PM - UK at HAMMERSMITH APOLLO, London
07/06/2007 05:00 PM - UK at APOLLO, Manchester
07/07/2007 05:00 PM - IRELAND at OXEGEN FEST, Punchestown
07/08/2007 05:00 PM - UK/SCOTLAND at T IN THE PARK, Kinross
07/10/2007 05:00 PM - GERMANY at COLUMBIAHALLE, Berlin
07/11/2007 05:00 PM - GERMANY at PALLADIUM, Cologne
07/12/2007 05:00 PM - BELGIUM at FESTIVAL, Dour
07/13/2007 05:00 PM - NETHERLANDS at PARADISO, Amsterdam
07/15/2007 05:00 PM - SERBIA at EXIT FEST, Novi Sad
07/17/2007 05:00 PM - CZECH REPUBLIC at T-MOBILE ARENA, Prague
07/18/2007 05:00 PM - SWITZERLAND at FESTIVAL, Montreux
07/19/2007 05:00 PM - POLAND at STODOLA, Warsaw
07/20/2007 05:00 PM - SLOVAKIA at TRENCIN AIRPORT, Trencin
07/21/2007 05:00 PM - GERMANY at MTV HIP HOP OPEN, Stuttgart


UNITED STATES

08/05/2007 8:00 PM - V FEST - Baltimore, Maryland

Rock the Bells North American Festival Series

Thu 7/26 Mansfield, MA Tweeter Center
*Sat 7/28 New York, NY Randall's Island
*Sun 7/29 New York, NY Randall's Island
Thu 8/2 Atlanta, GA Hi-Fi Buys Amphitheatre
Fri 8/3 Charlotte, NC Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre
Sat 8/4 Miami, FL Bayfront Park Amphitheatre
Tue 8/7 Dallas, TX Smirnoff Music Center
Wed 8/8 Houston, TX Reliant Park
*Sat 8/11 San Bernardino, CA Hyundai Pavilion at Glen Helen
Sun 8/12 San Diego, CA Coors Amphitheatre (parking lot)
*Sat 8/18 San Francisco, CA McCovey Cove (parking lot)
Tue 8/21 Salt Lake City, UT TBD
Wed 8/22 Denver, CO Red Rocks Amphitheatre
Sat 8/25 Minneapolis, MN TBD
Sun 8/26 Chicago, IL Charter One Pavilion
Wed 8/29 Detroit, MI DTE Energy Music Theatre
Thu 8/30 Toronto, Ontario TBD MOCHA!

* denotes festival dates with Rage Against the Machine.

09/03/2007 08:00 PM - BUMBER SHOOT FESTIVAL, Seattle, Virginia


One of the few artists that have flipped the script of MCing, producing is Kardinal Offishall. According to the Much Music Video Awards, his "Not For Sale" album will be dropping in the Winter with "Graveyard Shift" feat. Akon leading the way.

MIX TAPE DROPPING NOW? I gotta find the torrent of this soon. Sorry Kardi XD

http://youtube.com/kardinaloffishall416


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Re: The Official Rap Thread
« Reply #378 on: July 03, 2007, 11:19:45 PM »
http://youtube.com/watch?v=36Xt-XeWnHM

Not rap, but best video ever~!

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Re: The Official Rap Thread
« Reply #379 on: July 05, 2007, 06:15:35 PM »
Daigong, you can get the mixtape free on his myspace page =)
here's the link

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ssm87l
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