HELLO! MORNING YAY!! ~Official discussion thread~

[Celedam]

And what makes you think they are copying your way of celebrating Christmas? Are there any other parts of the world other than US that celebrate it differently? Just a question, that's all

Well, let's think about it: although Japan has evolved some of its own Christmas traditions (i.e., the romantic declarations, the Christmas cake) over the last few hundred years, the modern commercial version of Christmas was primarily shaped by the post-WWII occupation. American soldiers playing Santa were the first to distribute Christmas presents to the people on any real scale, and the Japanese children then would corporate executives today.

Furthermore, pizza may be originally Greek or Sicilian and fried chicken may be originally German, but the two of them together along with everything else in that mountain of junk food is uniquely American. Go watch the episode again; there's nothing else it could be.

So yes, I think the argument could be made that the Japanese celebrate Christmas in a particular way because it's how they think Americans celebrate it. (Thank you, KFC. *bleh*) And while I won't deny we eat that crap, we usually don't eat it all at once and we certainly don't eat it for Christmas.

That much American-style junk food must be absolutely revolting to people raised on a typical Japanese diet, but it's what they put out for a Christmas party because it's what they think we put out for a Christmas party. And that's what makes me sad — what must they think of us?

Notice that all of the girls immediately went to the salad first and then maybe tried a slice of pizza...

[ferrar1]

well i had chinese steamboat on christmas

Anyway why do i sense something bad tt ai-chan's not around... I would have preferred more H!P members or guests to be on. 7 person + Rika is so... lonely , though i do see macha macha there lol

[DroolBoy]

Well, let's think about it: although Japan has evolved some of its own Christmas traditions (i.e., the romantic declarations, the Christmas cake) over the last few hundred years, the modern commercial version of Christmas was primarily shaped by the post-WWII occupation. American soldiers playing Santa were the first to distribute Christmas presents to the people on any real scale, and the Japanese children then would corporate executives today.

Furthermore, pizza may be originally Greek or Sicilian and fried chicken may be originally German, but the two of them together along with everything else in that mountain of junk food is uniquely American. Go watch the episode again; there's nothing else it could be.

So yes, I think the argument could be made that the Japanese celebrate Christmas in a particular way because it's how they think Americans celebrate it. (Thank you, KFC. *bleh*) And while I won't deny we eat that crap, we usually don't eat it all at once and we certainly don't eat it for Christmas.

That much American-style junk food must be absolutely revolting to people raised on a typical Japanese diet, but it's what they put out for a Christmas party because it's what they think we put out for a Christmas party. And that's what makes me sad — what must they think of us?

Notice that all of the girls immediately went to the salad first and then maybe tried a slice of pizza...

I don't think they're trying to mimic the American "way" of eating, but rather, instead of rice and whatever else they eat every day, they can have some sort of 'junk' during the holidays.. :p

[Celedam]

I don't think they're trying to mimic the American "way" of eating, but rather, instead of rice and whatever else they eat every day, they can have some sort of 'junk' during the holidays.. :p

If it were just one or two kinds of junk food mixed in with other things, then I would agree. Nothing to worry about. But all of those particular foods taken together cannot be a coincidence. Nobody in the world eats like that except the stereotypical fat American.

[reyfer]

You're right Celedam, they are japanese girls doing a japanese show for a japanese audience trying to emulate what they think is american behavior. Let's move on...

So, new year's special is not this sunday, but January 7? So there will be no H!M this sunday?

[crazychickencow]

Haha, about the Christmas cake... One of my friends has a tradition like that... though she calls it a "Happy Birthday Jesus" cake!

[Sukoshi]

If it were just one or two kinds of junk food mixed in with other things, then I would agree. Nothing to worry about. But all of those particular foods taken together cannot be a coincidence. Nobody in the world eats like that except the stereotypical fat American.

It was veg pizza, KFC, salad, cake and cookies.  With that I would say it was random junk food and sweets but just because they have KFC with Pizza you automatically jump to the conclusion that they are trying to look american?  Japanese people eat this stuff all the time (they do not only eat rice, noodles and traditional food) as does the reset of the world.

[stefy]

whats the big deal with the food part? whats so wrong with eating those stuff on x'mas?

[ohno]

Isn't KFC big during Christmas?

[reyfer]

whats the big deal with the food part? whats so wrong with eating those stuff on x'mas?

There's nothing wrong with eating that on Christmas or any other time. It's just that Celedam believes that if you do eat that stuff it is because you're trying to look like an american. But lets drop it and move on

[ferrar1]

You're right Celedam, they are japanese girls doing a japanese show for a japanese audience trying to emulate what they think is american behavior. Let's move on...

So, new year's special is not this sunday, but January 7? So there will be no H!M this sunday?

They are probably busy preparing for Kouhaku. I hope we get another inside clip like the 1 last year. Will our fabulous choreographer natsu-sensei cry again this time?

[JFC]

^ Let's not forget the possibility that the Soonk may have actually given the girls a day or two off to be with their families for Xmas.

[reina's eyes]

HM is generally shot a couple episodes at a time (for studio stuff anyway, which there hasn't been much of lately) at least a few days in advance of airing.

What is going to be on in its place? Might have been an issue with the network wanting to run something else???

They are really busy with other stuff around now and frankly its impressive that there are something like 50 new episodes a year!

[DroolBoy]

Risa eating her salad with chopsticks = <3

[JTRIX]

^Risa is pretty "Asian traditional" when it comes to eating I think, i.e. using mostly chopsticks.
ex. eating salad, eating monjayaki, etc.

[reina's eyes]

^^ And as I understand it in thailand salad is eaten with a fork and SPOON. :-)

[Roxasu]

i've eaten salad with chopsticks before, not that big a deal

[JFC]

^ You can pretty much eat anything with chopsticks, as long as it's properly prepared.

[Gblue]

the only issue i have eating with chopsticks is when things aren't cut small enough. like a whole chicken breast on my plate. i cannot eat a whole chicken breast with one mouthful.
eating with chopsticks is easy, and if you are used to it, why use something else?

[Kira-sama]

^ chopsticks FTW!, i have ate with chopsticks my whole life, i feel out of place sometimes when i dun have em when i eat LOL!