Author Topic: Justices Decline to Block Williams Execution (Read 2426 times)

Foxy Brown · « **on:** December 12, 2005, 06:02:10 AM »

Crips co-founder Stanley Tookie Williams lost another bid before the California Supreme Court when the justices unanimously ruled late today not to reopen his case and block his Tuesday execution by lethal injection.

Asmodai · « **Reply #1 on:** December 12, 2005, 07:09:10 AM »

I'm against the death penalty in normal cases anyway.

For the purposes of justice, what's the difference between leaving him in jail and executing him? It's not like he's ever going to get out anyway.

Also, if the purpose of the corrective system is the address problematic behavior and not to punish for past events no one can change, isn't execution kinda silly?

Besides, apparently he's actually found some useful things to do. I can't see the point of ending that because of actions that took place 25 years ago.

The main reason to go ahead is to respect the integrity of the jury decision, but I don't consider that to be a good enough reason for an execution.

TheQuickening · « **Reply #2 on:** December 12, 2005, 08:23:56 PM »

I'm mostly against the death penalty. Only exceptions I have are for serial/mass murderers (and then only if there's overwhelming proof that he/sheis really guilty) and rapists/sexual offenders (especially those who prey on little kids). That's just my thing.

I also find it a bit of an annoyance when an offender gets his/her sentence lowered by pleading "temporary insanity". As one comedian put it, if they're crazy enough to NOT know that what they were doing was wrong, then they WON'T know that we're gonna kill them! Tell the whackjobs that it's a magic ride and they'll strap themselves in!!! (semi-joke, semi-real sentiments)

ohbahsan · « **Reply #3 on:** December 12, 2005, 08:43:56 PM »

the death penalty is ok with me, especially in this case when the guy whacked four helpless innocent victims. who the fuck cares what he has done since then, murder is not something you can just atone with good deeds.

Asmodai · « **Reply #4 on:** December 12, 2005, 08:46:46 PM »

Err... missed the 'temporary' part.

You can't hold people criminally responsible for things that happen without their volition (e.g. while temporarily insane). The silly "Constitution" thing keeps getting in the way of that.

Foxy Brown · « **Reply #5 on:** December 13, 2005, 02:37:37 AM »

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger denied clemency to Stanley Tookie Williams, the former gang leader whose case stirred debate over capital punishment and the possibility of redemption on death row.

Tyler_Wood_2005 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 13, 2005, 05:04:01 AM »

I neutral in almost everything, I don't really care either way for alot of things.

For this Tookie Williams, in my heart, I do not believe he can do anything in the world to "redeem" himself, he took life, changed the life of the victims family.

And honestly, everything "good" that he's done since then doesn't mean a fucken thing to me. He's a murder, he killed people, permantly stole a son from a father and a mother who loved their son dearly.

So, he deserves the death penalty IMO, he deserves to pay for his crime

You can never redeem yourself for killing someone, you can do all the good in the world, but the blood on your hands will never be washed clean

daigong · « **Reply #7 on:** December 13, 2005, 08:15:12 AM »

We'll all be C-Walking in his honor.

daigong · « **Reply #8 on:** December 21, 2005, 08:39:50 AM »

Celebrities from hip-hop star Snoop Dogg to motivational speaker Tony Robbins lamented the execution of Stanley Tookie Williams at a funeral Tuesday that drew hundreds to the violence-wracked area where Williams founded the murderous Crips gang three decades ago.