Author Topic: [01/06] C-ute 11th Single [SHOCK!] (Read 17922 times)

shurastriker · « **Reply #40 on:** December 21, 2009, 05:16:20 PM »

Quote from: arrowisland on December 21, 2009, 09:00:19 AM

I feel like this was punishment for Maimi cutting her hair too.

Now that you mention it, makes sense... well i just want to understand why is all about Airi in this one... yeah, whatever.

Aioros · « **Reply #41 on:** December 22, 2009, 03:06:58 AM »

It was inevitable that there was gonna be a C-ute song sung entirely by Airi but I think what shocked everyone was that it was released after one of their member's graduation. A 5-member group is indeed more manageable and the lines could be more evenly distributed but I guess the composer/arranger didn't see it that way. And Airi gets the hate.

I like C-ute. Each of them have talents yet some of them are underutilized but personally, I prefer Airi to sing this song by herself than force the other girls to sing lines that could potentially butcher the song. If that happened, we'd prolly be reading comments like "Oh damn, they shouldn't have let (insert member name here) sing! She killed the song OMG!", or "They should have given that line to Airi instead." And that's what they did. They gave Airi all the lines and she made the song happen. She got most of the praise and at the same time she got most of the hate and spared her groupmates from any. I don't think the other members mind her singing it alone because they know that Airi will always be their ace and they support her all the way. She's been carrying most of the load since day 1 and more after Megu left. I can't even imagine the pressure she has on her back right now.

Having 2-3 members at most singing the majority of the lines has always been C-ute's weakness and now it's been totally exposed that their roster has decreased again. If the management thinks Airi and Maimi need help that their other members couldn't provide, they could always put some new members in, rather than letting them have all the lines. But that's going to be another story.

Sorry for the rant. I'm just tired of reading the Airi and/or Tsunku hate from other sites.

Slack · « **Reply #42 on:** December 22, 2009, 03:34:41 AM »

I can't say I've seen too much hate on here, but that's cause we're mellow. That's why I like it here best.

Still, I think you might just be underestimating the vocal abilities of say, Chisato, when you say that the others would have butchered the song.

What I've noticed with singles is that they tend to use the B-side to balance or offset the A-side. For all I know, the B-side for this has Airi not singing at all or something. That wouldn't be much consolation for the other girls though.

I was listening to Cutie Queen the other day and I started wondering how the different the group dynamics and line distributions would have been if Megumi had stayed on. Would it have been more like what we have in Berryz where there's three and a half front girls? (Yurina counts as a half of a front girl)

In general, we've gotten used to roughly 2 and 2/3 front girls in C-ute (1/3 each for Nakky and Mai), so it's not surprising that this is causing such an uproar. It's kind of like they graduated almost 2 whole members without any forewarning.

For all I know, Tsunku wrote this one specifically for Airi. Problem is, that kind of song is usually on an album, not a single. But since when has Tsunku NOT been batshit-insane? I love the guy for it, but if this is going to become a pattern with C-ute, I just feel sad for the other members.

Nevi · « **Reply #43 on:** December 22, 2009, 03:47:26 AM »

Yeah, I feel like we don't have much -hate- here. I find that most people here love Airi. We just love everyone else, too. And every time I've watched SHOCK! (or, let's face it, anything C-ute) I've always thought of how Airi has so much work to do. Between this and Buono!, just think of the pressure that she must have. D:

And now that wordsworth pointed it out... I can't really think of any of the other girls' voices fitting this song all too well -- maybe Chisato's. Perhaps Saki's if she controlled it well enough. But wordsworth was right, this isn't exactly a song suited for the others.

>: I just miss the group dynamic, s'all.

Aioros · « **Reply #44 on:** December 22, 2009, 03:59:40 AM »

I think Chisato has the best voice in the current lineup. If I could choose anyone from C-ute to sing SHOCK! all by herself, I would have picked her. Though I prefer her in more songs like Akai Sweetpea

sousora · « **Reply #45 on:** December 22, 2009, 04:07:59 AM »

Quote from: Slack on December 22, 2009, 03:34:41 AM

What I've noticed with singles is that they tend to use the B-side to balance or offset the A-side. For all I know, the B-side for this has Airi not singing at all or something.

The b-side rip has been out a while and it's pretty much just entirely Osuzu/Maimi as well. Well at least Maimi gets to sing in that one, still sucks to be anyone else though... they could have at least made up for it with some generous PV time, it's really not that hard with only five of them now.

winner · « **Reply #46 on:** December 23, 2009, 01:46:35 PM »

I agree Airi deserves getting a lot of lines, but it doesn't make me miss Maimi being in the spotlight any less.

Overall, I think the song itself is just average though. Nothing actually memorable.

sousora · « **Reply #47 on:** December 30, 2009, 06:09:19 AM »

Tsunku's comment where he explains how he designed the song so it sounds good in headphones (

) and how it's pretty much all Osuzu because she could convey the message the easiest (

).

I dunno. After repeated, repeated viewings of the PV I'm just sick of only hearing one voice and dying to hear a little Maimi or Chisa thrown into the mix. Not that Osuzu is terrible, but variety is the spice of life

kuro808 · « **Reply #48 on:** December 30, 2009, 07:21:26 AM »

^ basically you are right about only listening to one voice is not the greatest thing especially since Maimi has been leading with Maimi and Airi. Maybe next single we won't have Airi and C-ute

shadowstar · « **Reply #49 on:** January 01, 2010, 04:29:09 PM »

I don't hate Airi either, at all. And I'm no longer much of a C-ute fan, but it's such a shame to see the vocal talents of someone like Chisato, for example, 'going to waste' seemingly more and more. I'm hoping they can at least switch it up once in a while with member emphasis when it comes to singing. Like Airi mostly sings this time, Chisato next, etc. I think that would be kind of nice and unique, and everyone's happy.

sousora · « **Reply #50 on:** January 02, 2010, 01:54:31 AM »

C-ute's new year message from Oricon.

Yanki31Mina · « **Reply #51 on:** January 02, 2010, 10:06:53 PM »

The song is good, but I hate that only Airi gets to sing. The other members are only used as back up.

tiny · « **Reply #52 on:** January 06, 2010, 05:45:54 PM »

Daily chart
*1　8,410　℃-ute
*2　4,925　9mm Prabellum Bullet
*3　2,691　浜崎あゆみ
*4　福山雅治
*5　GACKT
*6　嵐
*7　関ジャニ∞ 緑
*8　長保有紀
*9　関ジャニ∞ 赤
10　関ジャニ∞ 白

Oricon site screenshot

(click for bigger)

ChrNo · « **Reply #53 on:** January 06, 2010, 05:57:39 PM »

looks like Osuzu-only was what they needed to break some nice oricon chart

shirenuファクトリー · « **Reply #54 on:** January 06, 2010, 06:03:22 PM »

#1 is nice but only 8,410 copies? D:

Nevi · « **Reply #55 on:** January 07, 2010, 12:44:45 AM »

see. tsunku knew what he was doing.

osuzu for teh WIN, apparently.

sousora · « **Reply #56 on:** January 07, 2010, 01:46:08 AM »

I doubt people went "Oh wow, it's only one girl singing, I'LL BUY." O.o

However, congrats on the number one spot, even if it's only for one day. It really is a good song, monopoly aside. I hope weekly sales will at least do better than the last single.

tiny · « **Reply #57 on:** January 07, 2010, 04:15:47 PM »

Daily chart
*1　4,409　9mm Parabellum Bullet
*2　3,142　℃-ute
*3　2,828　福山雅治

The weekly chart is a bit complicated. Due to the New Year's holiday Oricon combines the last and first weeks of the year into one two-week chart. SHOCK! was released in the second of those two weeks. So it may not chart high at all in the weekly chart.

tiny · « **Reply #58 on:** January 08, 2010, 05:54:29 PM »

Today's daily chart
*1　2,460　9mm
*2　1,825　福山雅治
*3　1,554　℃-ute
*4　浜崎あゆみ
*5　GACKT
*6　北島三郎
*7　坂本冬美
*8　長保有紀
*9　嵐
10　関ジャニ∞ 緑

Total sales for C-ute until now: 13,106

Nevi · « **Reply #59 on:** January 08, 2010, 06:34:26 PM »

darn that 9mm.

they're only doing well because of higanjima!