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Re: Hello! Pro QUESTIONS
« Reply #1020 on: July 14, 2009, 07:05:09 PM »
ok next question:
I wanted to buy th pb:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/4877240845

but nobody of my friends could help me
did anybody live/have friends in japan who can buy the pb and send it to germany?
please! >___<ö
There is a reason Amazon doesn't send these things: its illegal to export them from Japan a.f.a.i.k.

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Re: Hello! Pro QUESTIONS
« Reply #1021 on: July 15, 2009, 04:23:02 PM »
why should it be illegal?
she was 19 at release date öö
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Re: Hello! Pro QUESTIONS
« Reply #1022 on: July 15, 2009, 04:35:13 PM »
why should it be illegal?
she was 19 at release date öö


20 is considered the legal age in Japan. I'm guessing they don't ship porn out of the country if the one featured is underaged, only within Japan. Or simply perhaps there's a law that such items can't be delivered outside of the country, period.

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Re: Hello! Pro QUESTIONS
« Reply #1023 on: July 16, 2009, 05:38:23 PM »
18 is the global age
many japanese av stars begin in age of 18 and it´s legal
it wouldn´t be a problem

I´m searching more azusa pb´s

(I´m very sorry I really have problems with it)

azusa makes 2 another photobooks (dressed i think)
releeased under the name kari hayashi(林華鈴)
the second:
name: 美少女シャンプー publisher: (オデッセウス)
I searched and found this:
http://www.auction.co.jp/mem1/item/mem_itm_item.asp?LOT=1186973
but nothing where I can buy it(I´m going to make a azusa collection XDD)

from the third I found nothing
name: キムラカメラ publisher: (竹書房)

maybe it´s a magazine...?
I found this:
http://www.suruga-ya.jp/database/ZTAWO570.html

or a book?
http://www.tsutaya.co.jp/images/cache/tmb/06e2247190a8ead4f0464ccd5d77b690.jpg

I think it´s all wrong
what´s about the third pb?
I listed all 135 Members of H!P:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/4711xz

Please take a look.
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Re: Hello! Pro QUESTIONS
« Reply #1024 on: July 16, 2009, 05:53:58 PM »
18 is the global age
many japanese av stars begin in age of 18 and it´s legal
it wouldn´t be a problem

There must be some kind of law then either way, or a rule with Amazon, since it seems it can't be shipped out from Japan directly.

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Re: Hello! Pro QUESTIONS
« Reply #1025 on: July 16, 2009, 06:40:11 PM »
"the possession of child pornography in Japan, where only production and distribution, and not possession, of obscene images of people under 18 are illegal."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_in_Japan#Child_pornography

people UNDER 18 is illegal
people with 18 years or older are legal
azusa was 19 at the release and 2 of the providers send it oversea but I can´t get it because I´m not at amazon/can´t read japanese

nothing illegal here
I listed all 135 Members of H!P:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/4711xz

Please take a look.
How do you think?
It´s german, but I think everyone can understand.
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Re: Hello! Pro QUESTIONS
« Reply #1026 on: July 16, 2009, 07:14:32 PM »
"the possession of child pornography in Japan, where only production and distribution, and not possession, of obscene images of people under 18 are illegal."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_in_Japan#Child_pornography

people UNDER 18 is illegal
people with 18 years or older are legal
azusa was 19 at the release and 2 of the providers send it oversea but I can´t get it because I´m not at amazon/can´t read japanese

nothing illegal here
You can argue what 'legal age' you want, if Amazon doesn't want to send it to you it doesn't send it, its up to them to deside that. Amazon JP is based in Japan and has to follow the Japanse rules.

I think the limit is Gravure, anything more 'hardcore' or labeled as such is NOT shipped outside of japan.

Edit searching for '林華鈴' gets me to this CD:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B001MISQD2/

'キムラカメラ' results in a series of books about buildings it looks like.

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Re: Hello! Pro QUESTIONS
« Reply #1027 on: July 16, 2009, 07:18:06 PM »
^ You said what I wanted to say in a better way XD

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Re: Hello! Pro QUESTIONS
« Reply #1028 on: August 08, 2009, 01:05:33 AM »
Don't know if anyone knows this or not, but Where does Up-Front Agency Co., Ltd. stands in the rankings in the Japanese entertainment industry? or even the parent (holding) company, Up-Front Group Co.,LTD in the Japanese Industry?

Reason I ask is that back in 2006 or 2007, don't remember, someone posted it here somewhere that UFA is actually quite high in the rankings, only behind Johnny's Entertainment and/or Avex.  And H!P girls, especially Momusu members are among the highest paid idols in the business?  don't know the numbers, but also curious...

Now that was back then, I dunno if they still all that..."that", how they ranked among the entertainment business and/or MoMusu still are still among the highest paid idols or even decently paid?

Or are these information not released to the public?  I also just watched the subbed Kizuna Restaurant with some of MM OGs and it mentioned Tsuji @ 13 was one of the youngest highest paid "idol", along with the MoMusu. And when they first started out, even into their "Love Machine" single, Both Nacchi and Kaorin were poor, living off bread crumbs and last minute special sales at convienence stores.  but they did say their parents handled their financials so they didn't know how much they made.

ANOTHER QUESTION: What are H!P contracts like?  Momusu and the others, even OG and those who were and still are under UFA?  do they take good care of their agents?  financial-wise? 

maybe this is sudden, but recently in the news, it seems Korean Idols group are underpaid and under harsh conditions according to their contracts. they call it "slave" contracts.  how does H!P contracts fare in comparison? it just struck me and now I'm curious about H!P/UFA.  the girls always work hard for concert and single promotions, and once in a while, we fans seem to think they are working too hard and wonder if they are getting enough rest.  Sometimes we heard some of them are injuried or fatigued.  in the same Kizuna Restaurant show, both Nakazawa Yuko-san and Abe Natsumi mention that @ one point they were so exhausted that Nakazawa had memory loss and Natsumi was struck with certain fatigue and fell down like a log. 
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Re: Hello! Pro QUESTIONS
« Reply #1029 on: August 08, 2009, 09:30:15 AM »
Maybe this is a bit off-topic but >_>

As for base salaries, the way how Japan works is that senior members get paid more. Loyalty to a company is really important and the longer you stay working at the same company, the more you get chances to get 'promoted' etc. So when elder club was still around, Yuki Maeda would get paid more than Berryz even if Berryz worked more because Maeda was a senior. (They're still with the same company so maybe this is still true. Also there might be jobs or bonuses that give e.g. Berryz extra money, but I wouldn't know) This also explains why many ex-Momusu members have stayed working for UFA/UFG, even if they no longer work nearly as often and as glamorous jobs. It's still very beneficial to them.

And it also explains why it's been such a slow process for Maki Goto to restart her career at Avex. When you jump into another company, you start again from scratch. To Avex Gocchin is a newbie, not a veteran performer... So in a way for her to switch agencies was a very brave and risky thing to do D: Company jumping isn't viewed the same way as in the west, it's really betraying your loyalty in a way...

As for being worn out, during its Golden Era Momusu was everywhere every day so I wouldn't be surprised they were exhausted. Now that Momusu is less popular they still have a lot of projects (just of a different kind - they might not be on TV every day, but it's not like they're just at home twiddling their thumbs), so it's difficult to say if it's still as hectic as back in the day. It should also be noted that current Momusu wouldn't be allowed to talk about their current exhaustion; maybe Aichan would be allowed to say how hard it was for her at the start, but to say something about things being hard now would be unacceptable cuz idols are supposed to maintain the happy, energetic image. That's also why it's mostly graduated members talking about these things, to them it's acceptable now. Their time in the Momusu machine is over... Anyway as a result, it will be difficult for any of us to know the truth about current Momusu for years to come.

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Re: Hello! Pro QUESTIONS
« Reply #1030 on: August 08, 2009, 10:54:26 AM »
Great post there, shi!

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Re: Hello! Pro QUESTIONS
« Reply #1031 on: August 08, 2009, 04:54:23 PM »
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Thanks, shirenu.  you did answered one of my questions.  and don't worry about babbling we all do it, especially when in a long post, like I did before and what I'm doing now...

 I also read from another post that UFA/UFG does take care of their artists, financially, even now.  Though I dunno if they're still among the most paid idols, but as long as they're well off and at least decently paid, I'm happy for them.  I thought that if I know where UFA/UFG stands in the industry, the market, like stock and stuff, compare it to other idol agency and I could maybe get an idea of artist income...
Also, Hello! Project started in 1997, so they're a relatively new and not really established yet, so not really experienced, but then again, H!P is only a name and logo, the umbrella group, not an agency. I wonder how long UFA(the agency) existed and are they well established and experienced in the entertainment section?  which brings me to another question, UFW/UFG(the parent company), how long did they existed and well established are they?
Hello! Project members aren't the only artists/group they managed, as there are several others.
I'm just thinking, the longer you are in the business, the more you learned and experienced, therefore more productive and effective and know how to handle business, same for companies...

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Re: Hello! Pro QUESTIONS
« Reply #1032 on: September 09, 2009, 08:57:34 PM »
Up-Front Group was established in 1983. It is owned by several other companies. The value of its capitol stock is not published. Its main subsidiary is Up-Front Agency, which was established as a company in 2001 but already existed as part of UFG prior to that. Its proceeds were 7.32 billion yen in March, 2006. (I think that is for the fiscal year 2005/2006 but Japanese Wikipedia is not very clear to me about that).

According to Japanese Wikipedia a third of the income of Up-Front Group currently comes from a real estate project set up with proceeds from the Golden Era of Morning Musume (from Love Machine (today 10 years ago released btw) etc.)

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Re: Hello! Pro QUESTIONS
« Reply #1033 on: October 23, 2009, 07:38:00 AM »
Hello! Project Kansai, SINA, used to have a video radio show, GIRL KISS, which volume was the last one?

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« Reply #1034 on: January 11, 2010, 12:48:34 AM »
When will the FC DVD of Morning Musume in LA will be released?

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« Reply #1035 on: January 11, 2010, 01:01:39 PM »
When will the FC DVD of Morning Musume in LA will be released?

According to musumenavi.jp in the last 10 days of January or the first 10 days of February.

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« Reply #1036 on: January 11, 2010, 01:07:33 PM »
Hello! Project Kansai, SINA, used to have a video radio show, GIRL KISS, which volume was the last one?

I think it was volume 72. See also the official Girls Kiss archive here.

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Re: Hello! Pro QUESTIONS
« Reply #1037 on: March 08, 2010, 01:10:14 AM »
Hello! Two questions!

I'm making a comprehensive Hello! Project DVD release list for my own reference, and I was curious about the release of the DVD for Hello! Project 2006 Winter ~Zeninshuu Go!~. I know they were going to release it in March that year (as usual), but cancelled it because of Kago, and then there was talk of releasing it in December 2008 as a Fanclub-only DVD. Does anyone know the actual release date for that? Did it ever get released? I'm having trouble finding info on it.

In the same vein, I've been looking for similar release date information for any DVD/VHS copies of all Hello!Project's concerts prior to 2002 ~Kotoshi mo Sugoizo~ (not Morning Musume, only all-inclusive Hello! Project shows from First Concert Hello in 1998 through Together! Summer Party in 2001). I can find the dates for the actual tours, but no info about when the videos were released to the public, and because they're all out of print, I can't find any release info on sales sites, either. Is there a list of those anywhere, or am I missing something?

Thanks very much! :3



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Re: Hello! Pro QUESTIONS
« Reply #1038 on: March 08, 2010, 01:25:57 AM »
For your first question, I know it was released and I'm pretty sure it was fanclub only, but not sure when it was released.
I know it was released because I have a copy of it I got from Hello!Online's tracker.  I'd never seen it anywhere until I got it there, and that was December 2008.  You might be able to contact the original seeder of that torrent for more information.

For your second question, I was going to suggest checking the Japanese wiki page on Hello! Project DVD releases, but they don't have pre-2002 Winter info.  Since you specifically asked about that, I assume you already checked that. :)

For more authoritative information on release dates, I'm sorry to say I don't have any other sources.
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Re: Hello! Pro QUESTIONS
« Reply #1039 on: March 08, 2010, 04:06:57 AM »
For your first question, I know it was released and I'm pretty sure it was fanclub only, but not sure when it was released.
I know it was released because I have a copy of it I got from Hello!Online's tracker.  I'd never seen it anywhere until I got it there, and that was December 2008.  You might be able to contact the original seeder of that torrent for more information.

For your second question, I was going to suggest checking the Japanese wiki page on Hello! Project DVD releases, but they don't have pre-2002 Winter info.  Since you specifically asked about that, I assume you already checked that. :)

For more authoritative information on release dates, I'm sorry to say I don't have any other sources.

Thank you for the tipoff about H!OT, I'll check there! (...And possibly take a look at that torrent, too, if it's still active. X3) I hadn't even thought to do that! It sure is hard to get ahold of...

And yeah, I've checked there. x.x I've checked most of the wikis I can find, too, like thePPN and J-Ongaku and all those places. I can find release dates for all the old single V VHS and everything, too, but no luck with the concerts. I guess it's not like the dates are that important, I'm just kind of anal about my list formats. XD

Thanks very much for your help!

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