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I dropped this here earlier, but I buried it in pictures
...because, this is was how I felt about it:
I can't really form any cohesive thoughts about this atm so I'll just rant real quick (and by quick I mean not quick at all)
People make me very sad. IF the conversation was in fact every bit as malicious as haters/netizens seems to believe, then I completely agree that it's pretty damn silly for her to participate in this conversation, even if she didn't really say much. I can go on and on about how no one is perfect and everyone has conversations like this and makes mistakes, but when it comes to raining down judgment on others, everyone gets on their high horse and talks shit about other people mercilessly, while hypocritically trying to put them down for ALLEGEDLY putting someone else down, so a reaction like this is completely expected and thus it could be easily avoided by just...not having a conversation like this in public. That said, I'm under the impression that this is an OLD conversation (dating back to before the controversy), so "she should know to avoid this, because of what they're going through!" is not quite valid, and while I guess that wouldn't "excuse" it, it'd make this dumb decision more understandable.
What I really don't get is the people saying things like "they belong under everyones toes. what they did is a shame to being an idol" (actual quote, thanks allkpop lolol) based on hearsay and garbage without proof. I wouldn't make bold statements like that without proper proof, just like I wouldn't pretend they were entirely innocent if there was a possibility they weren't. We just don't KNOW, so why do people blindly condemn others? They call them horrible people etc, but if you thought for a moment that maybe they did nothing wrong, and you're at the other end of the internet calling them bitches and whores and hoping their dreams burn in hell and they fade into obscurity, that makes you a pretty disgusting person. Hypocrisy in general is disgusting, so my mind is blown by these people. Granted, I file most of it under "nasty jealous troll", and I don't personally take offense to it beyond just making a confused face and shaking my head, but it's that kind of shit that spreads on the internet and ultimately probably sends these girls home crying when people say horrible things to them over something they may not have even done.
and CCM is always ridiculous, so I don't even know what to think about their statement. and I really truly can't express my hatred for these netizen/korean news/allkpop articles. I mean, damn, I had to read it a couple times before it even made sense, and even then, IT BARELY MADE SENSE! They're so general and vague, just like that statement was general and vague, a lot of random words thrown around that I can only blame on shoddy translations or lack of context. Even that statement made no damn sense
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This SORTA clears it up, could be bullshit, could not be, but either way it shows the conversation in a pretty different light:
http://www.allkpop.com/2013/01/t-ara-soyeon-sua-and-yoon-ee-nas-kakaostory-conversation-edited
[NEWS] The Truth Behind T-ara Soyeon Scandal on KakaoTalk
While the outdated “gossip” between T-ara Soyeon and actress Yoon Ee Na is becoming a hot topic on the internet, the truth that arrived a bit later than expected attracted quite a few of attentions.
Certain related person explained through phone call to eNEWS saying “the blaming occurs because Soyeon’s part of the conversation has been edited out (by just cropping a part of the conversation instead of as a whole) intentionally to make it looks bad”, “the conversation is not directed at any actress, it’s really just discussing the acquaintance wearing stitch”
Recently, in a discussion board in BBS, there was a picture of conversation on the 16th between Soyeon, Yoon Ee Na and Su Ah in KakaoStory spreading.
In the picture, Soyeon saw Su Ah wearing a certain brand t-shirt and left message for her saying “it’s the same clothes as mine.” Afterwards Su Ah said, “This is a shirt I’ve gotten after searching so difficultly”, Soyeon replied “Recently this brand receive so much guilt from that sister there… I’m not wearing it, I don’t want to wear it anymore” which causes the question of whether it was directed at a senior artist.
Following, Yoon Ee Na said “Isn’t it stich?”, Su Ah and Yoon Ee Na later left messages saying “angry stitch?”, “old stitch”, “even old” kind of statement, which ignited the blaming.
However, eNEWS further inspected the pictures from KakaoStory and confirms that the outcome of their conversation is totally different from what was once reported. In the picture, there was a person wearing KENZO tshirt which is Soyeon’s acquaintance, having a headset, modeling.
On the upper part of the the pattern, there’s a printing which resembles stitch, which started the conversation. Especially the much criticized “angry stitch”, “old stitch” means that there is a crumpled pattern on the tshirt which is also an “angry stitch” (looks like angry at first glance).
The stitch being discussed that was getting married is another acquaintance. But the internet reported it to make it looks bad.
This certain related person said “it seems that T-ara controversy last year causes the hatred to netizens which give rise to this problem” “I’m really upset people are spreading rumors like this and making it out of control”
Source: http://enews24.interest.me/news/01/4249951_1161.html
Trans by: Stew
via Hyotheleader
So, if I'm getting this properly, Soyeon sees picture of Sua wearing KENZO and says something about how she can't wear Kenzo anymore because [bad translation here], something basically amounting to, she can't wear it because some other unnie either wears all of the Kenzo stuff, made Kenzo look bad, made Soyeon feel bad for wearing Kenzo when that's the other unnie's favorite brand, or because that other unnie is incredibly lame and Soyeon doesn't want to be associated with her. Who knows. Some OTHER person then comes in and makes jokes about the character on the shirt, who looks like Stitch (from Lilo & Stitch, I presume). The folds in the shirt make the "Stitch" look angry, old, wrinkled, etc, and they're just talking about the character on the shirt the whole time. I'm not entirely sure of the context in the wedding talk that showed up afterwards, this was possibly in reference to the girl that wears all the KENZO stuff Soyeon initially mentioned.
Now, based on what you choose to believe, assuming this stuff is true, that's a pretty damn harmless conversation.
Now we hear "eNEWS is an MNET company, they were probably paid to do this" and "so why didn't CCM say this to begin with? and why did they apologize, if it was so harmless?" etc. They say the covnersation as it was posted for the initial controversy had the image edited out, so I would imagine you could just ask "if this was really so bad, why would the original poster edit out the image? It's obvious they were trying to start trouble from nothing!" People like to grasp at straws when it comes to painting the most negative picture possible and raining down dat judgment...
But what are you gonna do, people will be people. They just better not affect my right to enjoy more T-ara in the future.
with both my eyes and ears.[/ENDRANT]
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TL;DR Haters Gonna Hate
Topic: (Group) T-ara (티아라) (Read 893280 times)