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« Reply #660 on: January 26, 2007, 11:02:53 AM »
A weird and somewhat random video problem I've been having.  I only see this on videos with 4:3 aspect ratio, but it may be just because the sides of widescreen videos run to the end of my monitor.  There's a weird line maybe 5-10 pixels wide on the right (always the right) of the video that displays weird colors and all.  It'll do it for XviD videos, H.264 videos, etc.. so it's not the codec.  It'll do it in Windows Media Player, VLC Player, and Media Player Classic.. so it's not the player.  Any ideas?  Here's some screenshots I took when I saw it happen (hardware accel at none, otherwise it won't show up on the screencaps I take with the player)



As much as I watch videos on the computer at fullscreen, it's extremely annoying.  Thanks for any help you guys can offer.

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« Reply #661 on: January 26, 2007, 11:14:25 AM »
^ what kind of videocard to you have?
You could try updating or downgrading your videocard drivers to see if there's a change?

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« Reply #662 on: January 26, 2007, 11:50:19 AM »
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^ what kind of videocard to you have?
You could try updating or downgrading your videocard drivers to see if there's a change?


Worth a shot.  I'll try it after I get some sleep.  My videocard is a GeForce 7800GTX PCI-E.  Thanks! :D

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« Reply #663 on: January 26, 2007, 12:06:50 PM »
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That's from Ayu's "Fly High" PV !!! :w00t:

... do i win sumthin' ??? :embarrassed:
« Last Edit: January 26, 2007, 02:35:38 PM by Happosai »

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« Reply #664 on: January 26, 2007, 02:30:48 PM »
Lol happo go revive the "guess your idol" @ the pictures thread !
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« Reply #665 on: January 26, 2007, 08:55:59 PM »
I'm not sure if this goes here - if not, please move it mods~ (sorry in advance)

I seem to be having problems with the VEOH player. I've downloaded and installed it on two occassions and it gives me the "blue screen of death" - is there a bug or something? And if so, is there a way around it? Because lots of people seem to be using it alright...

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« Reply #666 on: January 26, 2007, 09:30:08 PM »
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I'm not sure if this goes here - if not, please move it mods~ (sorry in advance)

I seem to be having problems with the VEOH player. I've downloaded and installed it on two occassions and it gives me the "blue screen of death" - is there a bug or something? And if so, is there a way around it? Because lots of people seem to be using it alright...

Why do you need a veoh player?  When you download a video off veoh using their weird little veoh downloader it downloads it as mpg or avi - you can play it with any video player.
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« Reply #667 on: January 26, 2007, 09:47:18 PM »
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Why do you need a veoh player?  When you download a video off veoh using their weird little veoh downloader it downloads it as mpg or avi - you can play it with any video player.


don't i need the player/client to download? because when i click the download button, it directs me to download the VEOH player (http://www.veoh.com/downloadFlow.html) - and thats the program that messes up~!
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« Reply #668 on: January 26, 2007, 10:47:28 PM »
stupid question probably and it's probably been answered in a thread somewhere but what is the best place to put youtube videos onto psp?

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« Reply #669 on: January 27, 2007, 01:33:35 AM »
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don't i need the player/client to download? because when i click the download button, it directs me to download the VEOH player (http://www.veoh.com/downloadFlow.html) - and thats the program that messes up~!

Is it a player too? I dunno, I always install it then uninstall it after downloading a video cos the damn thing is like a virus.  I couldn't get rid of it.  Even after killing the task with task manager the damn thing kept opening back up all by itself.  I dunno why you're having trouble getting it to work, sorry.

The actual downloaded videos are mpg or avi and it downloads them to a folder, and you can play them with your usual media player.
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« Reply #670 on: January 27, 2007, 02:45:39 AM »
Since I had the newest nVidia drivers, I went ahead and rolled back to drivers from a few months ago.  Still the same problem.

Any other ideas? :o

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« Reply #671 on: January 27, 2007, 02:51:52 AM »
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Since I had the newest nVidia drivers, I went ahead and rolled back to drivers from a few months ago.  Still the same problem.

Any other ideas? :o

Assuming you've checked to make sure the video files aren't just faulty then it could be a codec problem.  Have you installed anything video-related recently which might have started it off?
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« Reply #672 on: January 27, 2007, 03:57:08 AM »
Do you know when it started happening? or has it always just happened? Also does it only happen when you go fullscreen or can you also see the line when the video is just in a window?
 
Download this program, Graphedit
http://www.stokebloke.com/video/wmv2avi.php
 
Open it up and just drag and drop a video that you know has the problem, into it. It will make a kind of graph of the filters being used to render the video. If you hit the play button it will then play the video in a window using the current filters. It's possible (with a bit of trial and error) to change parts of the graph and force certain filters to be used instead of the default ones.
You can't make changes while the video's playing but if you close the play window and then change a filter and then play again you'll see if it's going to work or not, otherwise you'll get an error.
You can probably see the general idea of playing a video back just be looking at a graph. There's the first box indicating the file being played, that then goes to a splitter which splits the audio and video streams, your problem is going to one of the next 2 boxes on the video stream, either the codec (it's possibly the codec, xvid and h.264 are still both mpeg4 based) but I'm thinking it's something to do with the renderer and I'll just quickly guide you through how to swap it to see if it makes a difference.
Go to Graph>Insert Filters, the filters you're looking for are in +DirectShow Filters, scroll down to the ones starting with Video and you'll see Video mixing renderer 9 (VMR 9) then there's 2 called Video Renderer, one of these will be VMR and the other will just be a plain renderer. You select them all and add them for now.
Actually I forgot to ask, do you have anything currently sitting between your decoder and your renderer?
Otherwise just select the current used renderer and hit delete button then just drag and drop your cursor between the Output of the decoder across to the Input of the renderer you want to try.
If there was something in between your decoder and the renderer then try just deleting it altogether and hooking up the decoder directly to the renderer. That's what the default should look like anyway.
Once you have everything hooked up ok you just hit the play button and see how it looks. I guess it's just a matter of trial and error to see if there's any changes. You can try adding an overlay mixer in between the decoder and the renderer although you can only do this if you use the plain Video Renderer you can't use a VMR one.
 
You can even try changing the decoder, just make sure you select a valid one from the list. My default is ffdshow but I can change it to Xvid or Elecard or Nero or some other decoder and try that.
 
None of the changes you take affect on the way things are played back on other players by default so you don't have to worry about screwing something up. This is just a method to find out where the problem is. If you don't find a solution using this method then I really don't know what else it could be, you could try reinstalling DirectX 9. Um other than that there's always the formatting and reinstalling Windows, if that doesn't fix it then you might have a faulty videocard? or Monitor?
 
BTW graphedit is really handy for encoding things too. Using DirectShowSource("c:\yoursavedgraphfilehere.grf") you can make an avisynth script and stick that into vdub or gordianknot and encode a file the way YOU want it to be rendered.

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« Reply #673 on: January 27, 2007, 05:07:39 AM »
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Is it a player too? I dunno, I always install it then uninstall it after downloading a video cos the damn thing is like a virus.  I couldn't get rid of it.  Even after killing the task with task manager the damn thing kept opening back up all by itself.  I dunno why you're having trouble getting it to work, sorry.

The actual downloaded videos are mpg or avi and it downloads them to a folder, and you can play them with your usual media player.


Yeah it's a player too! =) Oh you can actually get round to downloading? Lucky.... because almost immediately, I get the blue screen of death.... it's not cool. i can't even download the stuff!

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« Reply #674 on: January 27, 2007, 05:11:42 AM »
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Do you know when it started happening? or has it always just happened? Also does it only happen when you go fullscreen or can you also see the line when the video is just in a window?
 
Download this program, Graphedit
http://www.stokebloke.com/video/wmv2avi.php
 
Open it up and just drag and drop a video that you know has the problem, into it. It will make a kind of graph of the filters being used to render the video. If you hit the play button it will then play the video in a window using the current filters. It's possible (with a bit of trial and error) to change parts of the graph and force certain filters to be used instead of the default ones.
You can't make changes while the video's playing but if you close the play window and then change a filter and then play again you'll see if it's going to work or not, otherwise you'll get an error.
You can probably see the general idea of playing a video back just be looking at a graph. There's the first box indicating the file being played, that then goes to a splitter which splits the audio and video streams, your problem is going to one of the next 2 boxes on the video stream, either the codec (it's possibly the codec, xvid and h.264 are still both mpeg4 based) but I'm thinking it's something to do with the renderer and I'll just quickly guide you through how to swap it to see if it makes a difference.
Go to Graph>Insert Filters, the filters you're looking for are in +DirectShow Filters, scroll down to the ones starting with Video and you'll see Video mixing renderer 9 (VMR 9) then there's 2 called Video Renderer, one of these will be VMR and the other will just be a plain renderer. You select them all and add them for now.
Actually I forgot to ask, do you have anything currently sitting between your decoder and your renderer?
Otherwise just select the current used renderer and hit delete button then just drag and drop your cursor between the Output of the decoder across to the Input of the renderer you want to try.
If there was something in between your decoder and the renderer then try just deleting it altogether and hooking up the decoder directly to the renderer. That's what the default should look like anyway.
Once you have everything hooked up ok you just hit the play button and see how it looks. I guess it's just a matter of trial and error to see if there's any changes. You can try adding an overlay mixer in between the decoder and the renderer although you can only do this if you use the plain Video Renderer you can't use a VMR one.
 
You can even try changing the decoder, just make sure you select a valid one from the list. My default is ffdshow but I can change it to Xvid or Elecard or Nero or some other decoder and try that.
 
None of the changes you take affect on the way things are played back on other players by default so you don't have to worry about screwing something up. This is just a method to find out where the problem is. If you don't find a solution using this method then I really don't know what else it could be, you could try reinstalling DirectX 9. Um other than that there's always the formatting and reinstalling Windows, if that doesn't fix it then you might have a faulty videocard? or Monitor?
 
BTW graphedit is really handy for encoding things too. Using DirectShowSource("c:\yoursavedgraphfilehere.grf") you can make an avisynth script and stick that into vdub or gordianknot and encode a file the way YOU want it to be rendered.

Changing renders didn't do anything.  The weird stuff still shows up even in windowed viewing, and for whatever reason the video was upside down when I viewed in that program of yours.  Changing the decoder in that program I couldn't figure out how to, but I've messed around with it before between ffdshow and Meida Player Classic to no avail.

System's getting a little sluggish so I might just go ahead and reformat in a while.  Can't think of anything else to do.   Thanks for all the help though.  That looks like it too one hell of a long time to type out. x_x

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« Reply #675 on: January 28, 2007, 01:09:34 AM »
If all goes well, I'll be reformatting my computer in a few and that should get rid of the problem.  I thought I'd take the chance to fraps what video looks like when I watch one that had the glitch in it.  This is Ayumi Hamasaki - Fly High.  It's easiest to see in full screen, and it'll appear on the right side.

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« Reply #676 on: January 28, 2007, 08:22:07 AM »
Good news!  Just reformatted and the problem is still ther! XD XD XD XD

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« Reply #677 on: January 28, 2007, 03:47:02 PM »
Still there? head>>desk
Are you sure the videos aren't like that anyway?  Could be a codec problem maybe.  After the re-install what codecs did you install.  I'd recommend NEVER using codec packs as they flood you with codecs and you can get 2 working at the same time causing a conflict.
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« Reply #678 on: January 28, 2007, 04:05:34 PM »
Just checked that sample, and I too have that line on the right, so I'd have to say it's the video itself.

Does this happen on all videos, or just some, cause I know when I encode videos and manually trim the borders, that often happens, but if I auto trim the borders, they usual play clean, so at a guess I would say someone has trimmed this clip manually.

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« Reply #679 on: January 28, 2007, 04:08:10 PM »
Does anyone know the address of that folder where you can see all the pictures you have seen on the internet? It like keeps a record of all the pictures you've seen and stores it somewhere on your PC...

I don't think I'm crazy, I'm sure it exists XD

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