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[2012.12.19] Nogizaka46 - 4th Single "Seifuku no Mannequin"
« on: October 01, 2012, 12:25:10 AM »
Announced on Nogizakatte, Doko? episode Sep 30, 2012.
Senbatsu to be announced on the following episode, Oct 7, 2012.

One of the coupling song will be the Ending theme for upcoming Anime, "Magi," titled "Yubi Bouenkyou" (指望遠鏡).


Thanks YKT for picture!

Shichifukujin no more, now there's 8 of them.

Noujou Ami   Saito Asuka   Wakatsuki Yumi   Inoue Sayuri   Fukagawa Mai   Ichiki Rena   Nishino Nanase   Takayama Kazumi
Sakurai Reika   Hashimoto Nanami   Shiraishi Mai   Matsumura Sayuri   Akimoto Manatsu
Ikuta Erika   Ikoma Rina   Hoshino Minami

In: Noujou Ami, Saito Asuka, Akimoto Manatsu (was away from group)
Our: Ito Marika, Saito Yuri, Nakada Kana.
« Last Edit: November 05, 2012, 12:29:22 PM by YKT »

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Re: [Date TBA] Nogizaka46 - 4th Single Title TBA
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2012, 09:51:22 AM »
It'll definitely be interesting to see to what extent their 'musical stage' affected the senbatsu line-up for this single.
I'm hoping it will have an effect, because it will make the musical concept and fan input much more valuable.

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Re: [Date TBA] Nogizaka46 - 4th Single Title TBA
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2012, 01:52:19 PM »
actually i hope the management will choose new center for N46 new single. but i think it won't happen  XD



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Re: [Date TBA] Nogizaka46 - 4th Single Title TBA
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2012, 07:54:22 PM »
There was a poll done, titled "who do you wish to be centre in the next Nogizaka single?" or roughly something like that (pardon my poor Japanese.)
Each internet ip was allowed only one vote! This might prevent meddling from overly-zealous fans, but also prevent household with multiple Nogi-fans from voting too (as was the case in my house :catglare:)...
So my bro end up voting at his school.  XD

Anyways, here's the result:
Who do you wish to be centre in the next Nogizaka single?
Sep 14, 2012 ~ Oct 4, 2012.
Total Votes: 2,242
RankNameVote CountPrev. Rank
#1Ikuta Erika200 votes
#2Shiraishi Mai172 votes2↑
#3Nishino Nanase139 votes5↑
#4Hashimoto Nanami127 votes1↓
#5Ikoma Rina125 votes3↓
#6Matsumura Sayuri120 votes1↑
#7Eto Misa97 votes14↑
#8Inoue Sayuri96 votes2↓
#9Saito Asuka95 votes16↑
#10Fukagawa Mai91 votes5↑
#11Takayama Kazumi84 votes12↑
#12Wakatsuki Yumi79 votes5↑
#13Nakamoto Himeka77 votes4↑
#14Nagashima Seira72 votes6↑
#15Nakada Kana71 votes2↑
#16Sakurai Reika62 votes7↓
#17Ito Nene50 votes5↑
#18Ichiki Rena47 votes7↓
#19Hoshino Minami46 votes9↓
#20Ito Marika44 votes8↓
#21Hatanaka Seira43 votes7↓
#22Kashiwa Yukina42 votes10↓
#23Ando Mikumo39 votes11↑
#24Noujou Ami37 votes
#25Kawamura Mahiro28 votes
#26Saito Yuri26 votes10↓
#27Iwase Yumiko22 votes2↑
#27Wada Maaya22 votes2↓
#29Saito Chiharu20 votes
#29Higuchi Hina20 votes3↑
#31Miyazawa Seira18 votes1↑
#32Kawako Hina16 votes3↓
#33         Yamato Rina                15 votes          8↓


There was another vote, titled:
Which undergirl do you wish to enter Nogizaka senbatsu in the next single?
Sep 14, 2012 ~ Oct 4, 2012.
Total Votes: 1,066
RankNameVote CountPrev. Rank
#1Eto Misa131 votes2↑
#2Ito Nene115 votes10↑
#3Saito Asuka93 votes4↑
#4Nakamoto Himeka90 votes1↑
#5Nagashima Seira85 votes2↑
#6Kashiwa Yukina81 votes2↓
#7Noujou Ami63 votes4↑
#8Ando Mikumo55 votes8↑
#8Hatanaka Seira55 votesNew
#10Kawako Hina45 votes
#11Iwase Yumiko42 votesNew
#11Kawamura Mahiro42 votes4↑
#13Higuchi Hina41 votes3↑
#14Wada Maaya36 votes
#15Miyazawa Seira31 votesNew
#15Yamato Rina31 votes3↓
#17         Saito Chiharu                30 votes          10↓

Source: http://nogizaka46.nobody.jp/

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Re: [Date TBA] Nogizaka46 - 4th Single Title TBA
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2012, 02:10:33 AM »
i 100% agree with poll result..ikuchan,maiyan,nanase is my fav members and i'm sure they can be nice center..


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Re: [Date TBA] Nogizaka46 - 4th Single Title TBA
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2012, 09:53:41 AM »
A preview of Nogi, Doko? from Yahoo! jp schedule:

番組の予告コメント、相変わらず煽るなぁ…
ついに発売が決定した4thシングルの選抜メンバー16人を大発表!
▽七福神解体!?メンバーも驚いた新フォーメーションとは!?
▽4枚目にして史上最高のサプライズ展開!衝撃的な発表に
メンバー動揺!&バナナマン唖然!
▽メンバー激変!涙涙の新選抜メン バー大発表SP!そして、新たにグループの顔となるセンターは?

Rough translation is (may not be totally accurate):
 - Shichi Fukujin dismissed?!?! What new members & formation will be presented!?!?
 - Most shocking announcement of all four single (not sure if translated correctly)! The members are shaken! & Banana Men shocked!
 - Dramatic change in membership! A special, teary announcement of the new senbatsu! Who will be the new center!
 
I am both extremely excited & terrified by this preview. :panic: I heard that "dramatic change" were promised for the last single thou, & fans are saying it wasn't that dramatic really lol. :sweatdrop:
So not sure should I take this with a grain of salt or not.. Guess there's not much to do other than wait for NogiDoko thou.

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Re: [Date TBA] Nogizaka46 - 4th Single Title TBA
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2012, 05:41:19 PM »
(4thシングル選抜メンバー)
秋元真夏 , 生田絵梨花 , 生駒里奈 , 市來玲奈 , 井上小百合, 齋藤飛鳥 , 桜井玲香 , 白石麻衣 , 高山一実 ,
西野七瀬 , 能條愛未 , 橋本奈々未 , 深川麻衣 , 星野みなみ , 松村沙友理 , 若月佑美

Senbatsu: Noujou,Saito A,Wakatsuki,Inoue,Fukagawa,Ichiki,Nishino,Takayama
K8:  Sakurai, Hashimoto, Shiraishi, Matsumura, Akimoto
Center: Ikuta, Ikoma, Hoshino
« Last Edit: October 07, 2012, 10:55:07 PM by t-motion »

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Re: [Date TBA] Nogizaka46 - 4th Single Title TBA
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2012, 05:42:41 PM »

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Re: [Date TBA] Nogizaka46 - 4th Single Title TBA
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2012, 06:11:13 PM »
^YKT & t-motion literally posted one second before I did.  :lol:

Anyways, personal observation & thoughts:
From what I observed thus far, fan reaction has been decidedly negative unfortunately.
I myself couldn't help but be quite disappointed too. Nor was there that much of a change really (never reading Yahoo Jp schedule preview again!)

There has been wide-spread expectation for Kazumi to return to k7 (now k8), largely due to a vastly improved handshake number & superior Stage results. This did not materialize, disappointing many fans. Nanase's drop is not exactly a surprise, but if handshake is to indicate anything, Nanase is only behind the top trio of Maiyan, Nanamin, & Saryuringo in popularity. Such placements make little sense to fans.

Akimoto Manatsu's return has been largely expected too, as just a few days prior, her inactive blog suddenly posted a test post, which was quickly deleted. This expectation does not translate into satisfaction with her inclusion in k8 however, as she has been absent from most of Nogizaka's activity, & to suddenly airdrop to k8 status ahead of members like Nanase & Kazumi is certainly to upset some fans.

Another disappointment lies in Hoshino's & Sakurai's continuing presence among k8. I like both members, but it is a fact that these two members have vastly inferior popularity in comparison to many senbatsu members, expecially Hoshino. Management do have the right to push members that hey deem with potential, but in the end of the day, I much prefer a slow & steady rise to the top (like mayuyu) rather than a bold & fast push (like paruru's). Imo, slow & steady produce a more stable fan base & much less hate/anti, while the bold & fast push might produce a strong fan base but will result in strong hate/anti. My observation is that Hoshino is not benefiting from this strong push at all, but rather is gaining an impressive amount of hate/anti. It doesn't help that she is more mentally fragile than the other members too. The thing is, she's young, so they should really slow down the push; she still have a lot of time the develop.

Ikoma's continuing as centre is also a disappointment for many fans. Given a choice of two, most prefer Ikuta over Ikoma. Given a choice of many, Ikoma ranked fifth in preferred centre behind Ikuchan, Maiyan, Nanase, & Nanamin. I recognize that she is a very hard working member, but that is also the same for all other members. Mentally & popularity-wise, she is exceeded by at least 3 to 4 members. Controversy regarding Nogizaka's centre will continue unfortunately.

Edit: One more thing is the lack of first-time senbatsu member. If the formation is not going to be popularity-based, might as well give all undergirls a chance to stand in the front row. The two new members, Noujou Ami & Saito Asuka, were both in senbatsu for the first single. The rest of senbatsu with the exception of Akimoto Manatsu are all also senbatsu members from the previous single. This only adds to the underwhelming-ness of this senbatsu announcement sadly.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2012, 10:35:06 PM by Rust »

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Re: [Date TBA] Nogizaka46 - 4th Single Title TBA
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2012, 06:19:46 PM »

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Re: [Date TBA] Nogizaka46 - 4th Single Title TBA
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2012, 11:24:28 PM »
More personal thoughts & observation:

After checking out the reactions in the Japanese blog & Chinese forum (baidu) I frequent, I now think the description "decidedly Negative" was an understatement. Almost all of the fans Can Not Stand this senbatsu! The feeling is that this is one of the worst possible senbatsu realistically conceivable. Every single post & comment are filled with fans who are dejected, angry, disappointed, raging, hating/anti-ing, & rage-quitting. & I don't blame then for feeling so because I must say "disappointed" was an understatement for how I am feeling too.

One thing reflected by some fans is that fully 11 members have not ever joined senbatsu since the first single. That is one third of Nogizaka's total membership (excluding Manatsu). This is of course also after one full year of hard work. & yet this single features no new senbatsu member except for Manatsu.

The above is further compounded by Manatsu's airdropping into k8 position. People noted that she withdraw temporarily to focus on her education. Yet, many other members need to work on both their schooling & Nogizaka commitment simultaneously just to achieve their standing today (if there is any standing), & did not have the privilege to temporarily withdraw. Some fans feel that this is a slap in the face to all under members & those who tried to balance schooling & career in Nogizaka.

Another thing I didn't note earlier is the collective shock at Nakada Kana's drop out of senbatsu. Considering popularity, she is on par with or higher than Sakurai (captain & k8), & much higher then Hoshino (k8 front row) & Ichiki Rena (senbatsu) for example. Eto Misa also have superior handshake result far ahead of many regular senbatsu members, but never once enter senbatsu. If Kana is dropped to make way for members who never entered senbatsu before, then it might be understandable. But that is not the case even.

Some Nogizaka fans used to support the management discretion approach to selecting senbatsu, with the central reason being that it offers members with less popularity a chance to be featured in the front row. With today's senbatsu announced, however, most now rather that there just be an senbatsu election just like AKB. As of right now, many fans feel that the current system just allow the management to make selection according to their personal preference without regard to popularity, talent, handshake result, Parco Stage result, or even equity.

That is all I guess. I hope no one is annoyed by my post here.. or more like collective ranting orz.
I really like the members in Nogizaka46, they are all really hard working & talented. But I am losing faith in the Nogizaka's management. Maybe Sony have a part in this mess? As Nogizaka46 is a collaborative project between Aki-p & Sony I believe.

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Re: [Date TBA] Nogizaka46 - 4th Single Title TBA
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2012, 01:06:39 AM »
Ending theme for Magi:

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Re: [Date TBA] Nogizaka46 - 4th Single Title TBA
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2012, 10:21:30 PM »
Release date set for 19th December 2012
http://www.nogizaka46.com/news/2012/10/46th-1.php

Thanks to https://twitter.com/NogizakanoUta for the heads up

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Re: [2012.12.19] Nogizaka46 - 4th Single Title TBA
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2012, 10:30:19 PM »
^thanks Jul3!  Edited the 1st post to reflect the release date.

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Re: [2012.12.19] Nogizaka46 - 4th Single Title TBA
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2012, 08:09:43 PM »
Haven't update this place for a while!  :nervous
So, here's some news!

There is a quiz contest from their official website! The aim is to guess the title of the single.
In the quiz page, you will be able to click on the member's name, & a short video will appear telling you whether or not the particular character of her name is included in the title of the single! A short preview of the song will be included btw.

An cute example... :P
斋藤飞鸟 猜歌名—在线播放—优酷网,视频高清在线观看
Look at that lolicon Nanamin & Ashurin!!!  :heart: (dies)

Quiz website: http://www.nogizaka46.com/quiz/

& to quote from Stage48
Quote from: caramujo
The title has 9 characters, and 5 persons randomly chosen who guess the title right win a pass for the drawing event on the 11/18 (the same of the Hashire! Bicycle single).

As for the title, it is probably:
Seifuku no Mannequin (制服のマネキン). Either that of Mannequin no Seifuku, althou methink the former is more likely.


Also, a glimpse of what the pv background might look like:
« Last Edit: November 05, 2012, 05:14:46 PM by Rust »

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Re: [2012.12.19] Nogizaka46 - 4th Single "Seifuku no Mannequin"
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2012, 12:28:57 PM »
Announced today at nogizaka46.com the title is "Seifuku no Mannequin"

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Re: [2012.12.19] Nogizaka46 - 4th Single "Seifuku no Mannequin"
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2012, 05:04:05 PM »
Debut performance on tonight's Nogizaka tte Doko


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Re: [2012.12.19] Nogizaka46 - 4th Single "Seifuku no Mannequin"
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2012, 09:14:35 PM »
i like it..

No...I mean, i LOVE it..

I want the PV to be something cool..


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Re: [2012.12.19] Nogizaka46 - 4th Single "Seifuku no Mannequin"
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2012, 10:05:50 PM »
From Stage48:
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Bonus videos preview from FujiTV's Mezanyu. Theme is members overcoming their fears.

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Re: [2012.12.19] Nogizaka46 - 4th Single "Seifuku no Mannequin"
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2012, 05:19:19 AM »
Song's pretty cool. A bit more of a cool feeling than their previous singles. I really like it. Also:

In: Noujou Ami

Awesome. Been hoping that would happen. :thumbup

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