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The PIEHOLE => H!P News and Releases => Topic started by: Ayabie on October 19, 2008, 08:29:56 AM
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Holy shit.
http://www.helloproject.com/newslist/hello_0810191500.html
The following members will be graduating from Hello! Project altogether 2009/03/31:
Nakazawa Yuko
Iida Kaori
Abe Natsumi
Yasuda Kei
Yaguchi Mari
Ishikawa Rika
Yoshizawa Hitomi
Tsuji Nozomi
Konno Asami
Ogawa Makoto
Fujimoto Miki
Inaba Atsuko
Satoda Mai
Melon Kinenbi
Maeda Yuki
Matsuura Aya
Miyoshi Erika
Okada Yui
Ongaku Gatas
The concerts on 1/31 and 2/1 will be their last ones.
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OMG for the love of god please tell me this isn't true.
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Like I said in the news thread, they will continue their activities but not as part of Hello! Project anymore.
Tsunku comment: http://www.helloproject.com/newslist/hello_0810191500_tsunku.html
Nakazawa Yuko comment: http://www.helloproject.com/newslist/hello_0810191500_nakazawa.html
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Holy shit.
I second that!
Can't really say I have a problem with it (reason known) but it's still somewhat of a shock since you know... it's like H!P is graduating :O
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What the hell! This is totally random. Not to mention it will be the complete collapse of all of their careers if they're planning on going independent. Hell, Ishikawa Rika is like the epitome of H!P!
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This is dooms day for H!P they are getting rid of all their history! I don't even know what to think.. :thumbdown:
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Why not just say they're dissolving it...
I need to get a couple of those MEGA BESTs now.
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After 10 years... we have come to the end of an era.
Not to surprising, but somewhat sad, time to move on...
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That is insanity! Of course things change in the course of time, but having everyone in Elder's Club graduate at the same time, I dont see the point to have them all go at once
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While it's a new generation being left behind, they're frankly just leeching off the label we all know as "Hello! Project". They might as well start over from scratch and see how far they'll go.
Anyway, I can only see like 5 of those continuing as TV personalities... Best of luck to the others.
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Miki Aya Yossie Rika Mari still appear on TV and Variety shows so at least we will be able to see them :( but Melons this really is good bye I guess they could just live regular lives they have been inactive for a little while now. Mai is becoming a big tv personality and she has Pabo so we will see her often in magazines and other stuff. Yuko appears but I bet she just wants to live a normal life. I would love to see Aya do the kind of songs she wants to do sames with Miki hopefully they will continue on as singers. This is such a shock though I love H!P because of its history and its old members. It won't be the same again though..
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Let me speculate on the reason.
- H!P members are idols.
- Useful life of an idol ends at 20.
- To further their careers they have to break free from the idol stereotype.
- Hence, graduate from H!P.
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OH. MY. GOD. THE QUARTERBACK IS. TOAST.
Man -- talk about seeing the writing on the wall from a mile away. Even MKB. Fuck.
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OMG WTF.
Let's move to TNX??
Shit now I hope MKB isn't totally gone.
Wait, dudes, where's Nacchi???
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HANGRY & ANGRY JUST TO TEASE MY DICK!!
Fuckin The Kids Experiment FUCKED UP and THIS IS WAHT WE GOTTA DEAL WITH!?!
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So, Kpop anyone?
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H&A isn't with H!P, I think?
So maybe they'll stick around.
But Kei-chan ;_; Melons ;_;
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I think its just a way of letting them break free of the H!P idol stereotype? Because frankly, they can't just remain idols forever either. Gotta move on and all that.
I'm just curious as to how their careers will pan out post-H!P. A new label maybe? Hmmm....
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To quote Kanye : How could you be so Dr. Evil?! TSSOONK?!
I'm glad we didn't invest our entire future in H!P.... JPHiP MUTHAFUCKAZ!!! :halo:
This reminds me of the Florida Marlins - win the fuckin World Series and then trade everyone away for cash-ola
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One more step towards my dream of Kei-chan doing porn!! :grin:
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UGh! don't know what to think of this....so depressing >__<
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I wonder what will become of Gatas Brilhantes H.P. after 2009-03-31. There would be a mixture of H!P and non-H!P members. Is that possible?
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MAYBE
They form a rival team and kick the shit outta the Berryz-Cute team! :twisted:
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Argh this is all a bit sudden...! Hello! Project with Matsuura Aya?!?!
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Since Ongaku Gatas will graduate too, so Gatas will not be a part of H!P? And whichever H!P members were with the team now aren't?
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Sounds like HP is shutting down.
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Not the best thing to read after waking up..... I hope they still will make music, have concerts and TV appearances...
And do not take Gatas away from Yossi and the rest of the (main) players :angry:
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Sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks!!!
I get the whole "shaking off the idol image" thing and that's needed and COULD be for the best for the rare few but the whole family is broken up now :cry:
What a damper on the excitement for Gaki's 20th tomorrow too!
Now I'm gonna be shit scared of any of the MM girls graduating :angry:
The thought of not seeing Mako/Konkon with TakaGaki again after the concerts next year is depressing... There goes the dream for the gokkies group *pouts*
I shan't give up till I know for sure that they aren't just gonna make another agency for these girls and have them as artists not idols in it, or at least give them the choiceShut up... I know it may be unlikely and almost defeat the purpose, but let a girl dream!:P
I'm just gonna ignore the fact that it means Miki atm... taking this news one step at a time :lol:
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Oh... wow... fuck... I don't know what to say...
If they only graduate from H!P but still stay with UFA it won't be that bad and maybe will open new opportunities for some of them.
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wow
this was unexpected
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Hey, does that mean Aichan will get to be the H!P leader now? :O
Anyway, shocking as it was, I guess it had to be done. :/
I'll miss them all, for sure.
Also, I might stick around for a while, too.
It will never the same, though.
At least I got to experience the greatness of a big H!P... :P
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So i'm officially dead today :imdead:
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Well, that was sudden. But this all does make sense to me. They've probably been planning this for awhile now. We'll see what happens.
It's too bad that my business trip to Japan isn't during winter vacation. Dammit. I would totally go to that concert.
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Oh... wow... fuck... I don't know what to say...
If they only graduate from H!P but still stay with UFA it won't be that bad and maybe will open new opportunities for some of them.
The announcement on the H!P official site says that the Elder Club members will be continuing their activities after the graduation...so they're still staying with UFA.
I hope that they'll have a good life and career and that we hear more from them in the future. I especially want to hear more from Nacchi, Ayaya, Miki, Mai, Yossie, Rika, Konkon, and Yuko. I'll always treasure my memories of them as great H!P members and idols.
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Apparently it's not "H!P Eggs" anymore, but rather UF Eggs they're recruiting for.
http://up-front-egg-audition.com/
What the shit are they planning.
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This is either a really bad "marketing/publicity" move or H!P is going bankrupt and unloading some payrolls and useless talents :grin:
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Hmm... if they're still tied to Up Front then not THAT much has changed.
On the other hand, sheesh what have they given to Nakazawa in the last couple years? And it IS kind of weird that your army is anchored by girls in their mid-teens while the elders sit in the waiting room, collecting unemployment. Even if this is purely symbolic, I can't say I'm shocked.
They might regret letting Ayaya loose.
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Nacchi is graduating too.
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whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? :'( *breaks down in tears*
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lol that's funny, this will change the format of JPH!P too :lol:
But I think all of them will do a better job outside H!P
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The media are picking up the news:
http://mainichi.jp/enta/geinou/news/20081019mog00m200005000c.html
http://natalie.mu/news/show/id/10328
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I can't say I'm shocked. You could feel this coming.
I wish them all the best. If Melon stays together they might even be more succesful under another label.
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Coming back from work.. Seeing this news, made me so tired than i originally was. As long as they still have a future in the entertainment industry its all good.. I guess.. From the massive releases wasnt it kinda expected? *sigh* oh well.. I've let out my rage and despair already... There's still 5 months.. Who knows.. maybe there will be a mass recruitment from Labels to get the Great Elders in their company.
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Everytime it's mentioned as a 'mass graduation' I think of 'mass suicide'... Hmm, I wonder if they are making such a mistake that it will be like that for H!P... I guess it shouldn't really change much for sales of the remaining H!P though.
Totally sucks to be the OG eggs, originally it was awesome of them being put in a group and given the chance, and now they get caught up with all this and have to leave the other eggs... or do they!
If they recruiting UF Eggs and the graduated will still be with UFA does that mean that it'll just be cross-overs but the elders get to drop the idol name... ARGH, why must they be so vague and not give us more info noooow! Unless of course, they don't know themselves :P
Ok, thinking out loud now and I'll shut up!
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Long Essay mode: ON
First reaction: "What the hell?!?!?"
Then I calmed down and thought about it logically and from a business standpoint and realized, that yes, it does make sense.
I can't imagine everyone's contracts just up and dissolving on the same day for everyone. I know we all say UFA is dumb and idiotic, but I don't think they'd be insane enough to kick everyone out completely. Therefore, I must conclude that the main purpose of this isn't to disband the groups and let everyone disappear from the public eye.
So what is this about?
1. Consolidating the H!P brand as U-20 idols and idol groups.
Instead of having to explain H!P as idols, idol groups and a bunch of soloists-who-used-to-be-idols-but-kinda-aren't-anymore-but-still-are-under-the-same-umbrella, you shorten that to the first two.
2. Freeing a bunch of girls from the label and stigma of being an "Hello! Project idol".
We know what a burden the label "idol" can be on these girls. Not only does it restrict them from pursuing personal relationships, but it can also limit their credibility in other pursuits. This way, they are free to do things like Hangry & Angry. So, if they aren't idols anymore, what does that make H!P if they keep them in the same category?
3. Removing the need to have a big annual Elder Club concert that doesn't tour around for many performances, keeps them from doing soloist-type stuff, and could potentially be considered a drain on resources.
This one is a bit of a stretch, but it's altogether possible that the Elder Club concerts just weren't considered as profitable. Instead of occupying 3 to 5 acts in one concert, they occupy over a dozen. This way, they all will be free to do individual activities and events during that period. Besides, the summer H!P concerts haven't included the Elder Club as a whole for a couple years now.
In my mind, this is kind of like re-organizing your media library and putting a chunks of it on separate HD partitions. It's all still there, ready to be accessed, but it's in a different place under a different name. I can see why they'd do all this reorganizing from a marketing and logistics standpoint, and it does make a good deal of sense. (Another analogy would be the US Air Force being split off from the US Army.)
This is kind of like rewriting a dictionary definition to be more precise. We all knew that at least some members no longer (or never did) quite fits the general "Hello! Project" idea. In particular, it would be a little of a stretch to continue calling Inaba, Maeda, Matsuura, MKB, Tsuji, Iida, Nakazawa, and Yasuda "idols".
Instead of flipping out and having scandals if/when more risqué things happen to these members, UFA can just say "oh, they're not really idols anymore, so they're free to do stuff like get married". Even if it does become a scandal, whatever happens is insulated from everyone else. (Going back to the separate HD analogy, if one fucks up, you don't lose all your data. See: Abe Natsumi in 2004, group apology for)
With all that settled, the only questionable thing in my mind is the fate of Gatas Brilhantes H.P.
I guess they'll have to be renamed Gatas Brilhantes U.F. now?
...Is any of this analysis helpful to anyone else, or am I wasting my time on a tl;dr post?
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alas! so sudden and depressed news... :shocked:
This news makes me think that H!P give up them...
I can understand why the members just like MKB will be graduate
But I think that such as natsumi,aya, can still make money for H!P...
WHY??? PLEASE TELL ME WHY?!! WHY GIVE UP THEM?!!
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Slack, nice post... I think in a way (after the initial shock) we are all thinking bits and pieces of that, but its nice to have it organized, and does put one at ease a bit more... but it's not completely confirmed atm that they will just be moved to some other 'agency' for them, right, other than the "they will stay with UFA" part? coz Maki was "staying" with UFA too, until the contract was up.
They could always do an annual UFA concert then, that would make me happy XD
So if they aren't idols anymore, does that mean IshiYoshi are free to go public? :P
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@Slack: great post. The way you write it down makes much sense. Thank you.
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Slack: Thanks, you said what I wanted to say.
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Another simple theory I read on 2ch was, now they can make two fan clubs and earn twice as much as before :lol:
But I don't know, the elders might stay in UFA and all, but I don't see them all being successful there, also not as soloists. Most sure didn't have much to do in H!P already but were at least able to perform at these Elder concerts and the joint concerts. Wonder if they risk putting effort into making a new UFA leaded group with elders.
For some it's a good chance to change though (like rika, miki, nacchi~) but as I said, I doubt all have a bright future now (maybe they're aware of this though).
Mhhhh I like to think of Berryz's new position within H!P now. :ph43r:
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I was right. x_O They are killing H!P.
..and yeah I agree with Slack too~ XD
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WTF an Elder club graduation?!?
...wonder under what agency will they be after this.....
man,,, this news is so gonna end my H!P fandom,,, I'll follow rika/yossy/miki/aya .. so bye hellproject!
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So they're finally restructuring H!P.
Everyone was always predicting "The End." But to me this looks like they're trying to refresh the whole game again. I'm really not that surprised at all, H!P has been through a lot in the past 10 years, and like Slack stated, it's like cleaning out your media library (which is something I'm in major need of doing). And this also gives a chance for the people who have been just living in the shadows to do something, whatever that may be, with less association with a large group of kids and teens.
Hopefully we'll see some more news on this and see what the graduating members' plans are. That would probably shed a lot of light on all of this.
I don't really see a need for people to suddenly jump ship just yet. Unless of course you only like the member who are leaving, but then I don't think you can really call yourself an H!P fan, but more a fan of Elder Club.
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They will continue their activities out of H!P
Jesus Christ! What activities? Two of them are happy moms and most of them were barely releasing. If it was hard to get a release for them under the big umbrella that was H!P for Up-Front, I don't see how they are gonna continue anything on Up-Front. That label is nothing but H!P, let's face it. They have a few artists that never make the charts because they probably don't even try. Up-Front is H!P, and if Elder group gets out of H!P, there is no activities to continue.
Plus, Up-Front is acting too late, just like they always do. It's been years since most of the Elder people were barely doing anything, barely releasing, or releasing non-Tsunku material, for which they've been left in the obscurity too much time already. This graduation comes late, and it is an end.
It wouldn't surprise me if Avex and others are already tempting some of the big names to transfer.
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Hmm i would prefer Miki to sign to AVEX because i hope she can make anything after H!P! :)
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Wake up and find this out. Holy Shit son. Somebody for my love of MKB pick them up.
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LOVE IS OVER
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Goddamn. The end of an era. :(
No way UFA could let the likes of Aya, Rika and Miki go to other companies. Would go downhill pretty quickly. I only hope all of the girls affected by this go on to bigger and better things, meaning more publicity, and more airtime! And this better be true because I don't want girls like Yui, Erika, Yuko, Mai to never appear again :(
Funny though, now that they don't have the idol image, the floodgates will be open (so to speak) and they're gonna shag the hell out of any guy that's near. XD
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Books a flight to Japan in 5 months
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YOOOOOOOOOOOOOSIE!
:cry:
There go my dreams of Nono coming back.
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:O Gawd...I don't even know what to think of this x_____x;; my brain can't handle this kind of news in the morning. I just know in like, four hours or something, it'll really hit me and I'll freak out =_= :scared: :frustrated: :pleeease: :tantrum:
H!P is going to be screwed without some of them.
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What a shock and yet not.
The only thing I'm worried of is whether or not we will hear much of the Gatas-Eggs anymore. It's interesting to see what are the activities that they will have after this (if they will have anything). I understand the need to kind of start anew, but if that means that I won't be hearing any more of my favorite Eggs, that's really sad. Of course seeing Konno and Mako (two of my favorite girls) go makes me sad too, but I have to admit, Mako's comeback didn't include much things for her to do, did it? I hope there would be more or at least as much chances to see her after this.
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GYAAAHH WHAT THE FUCK
I go offline for a few hours and I get back and half of H!P is graduating?! WTF?!?!? That's it, I'm never going offline again.
I guess I'm just gonna wait and see what happens, I'm too tired to start speculating 'n feeling like shit. lol
On the other hand, the majority of elder club were members that I didn't pay a lot of attention to anyway. But it's still crazy to see all the big names on a list of graduates. INSANITY
Then again as time has gone by, the age & maturity gap in H!P has started to feel weird and complicated to me and I think this will make things 'neater'...
I'll still stay with the bouncy happy joy joy kids, I guess... lol
A lot of recent H!P projects have been kind of un-tsunkuproduced anyway, mostly the anime stuff, so umm Idk, there might be work outside the H!P as we know it, guh guh, dabadiba
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My friend texted me and woke me up with this news a few minutes ago. Instead of freaking, I immediately started cracking up. Why?
Because I called it :wahaha:
Seriously, I predicted it as soon as I saw all those Mega Super Duper End of The World Best of Albums that were mysteriously all for Elder Club and dead units.
Now I'm betting at least some of them will move to this lovely agency (http://www.jp-r.co.jp/) that popped up pretty recently and has only four talent - Fujimoto Miki, Ogawa Makoto, Mano Erina, and Tokito Ami.
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Now I'm betting at least some of them will move to this lovely agency (http://www.jp-r.co.jp/) that popped up pretty recently and has only four talent - Fujimoto Miki, Ogawa Makoto, Mano Erina, and Tokito Ami.
Huh. Yeah. Entirely possible.
Anyway, now that I'm finished having a brain aneurysm over this, all I can say is I'd better still see Yossie around. That's really the only one of all of them that I can't bear to see go out of the spotlight permanently. Would be nice to keep Ishikawa around too, for the ishiyoshi.
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What a way to wake up and then see this.....
Actually, I feel indifferent about this whole announcement now, except in regards to MKB and Yuko-sama.
Hell, I haven't even listened to anything H!P in quite some time, but I do hope for the best for all who are graduating.
Que cera, cera........
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Okay wow, this was a shocker for me today. This is not at all what I expected to find upon coming here. :'(
I vaguely had a sense of doom at the mega best releases but didn't think much into things cuz I didn't want to think about what it could mean.
Sure it's about time something was done for the poor Elder Club and their lack of anything at all really, but since it's the majority of H!P is leaving it is sad. I really hope that they'll start getting some actual releases or some kind of activities somewhere.
I'm quite sad about Makochin and KonKon going away. I wanted me Gokkies group... :-\ Also Yossi and Rika.
Stupid groups I want that can never exist now and never would have happened anyway.
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WTF.
This had better turn out to be a cruel and sick joke. This is ridiculous... and there goes like 90% of my favorite H!P members. Ogawa, and really even Konno, just got back! Why graduate them again? And Rika, though I love her dearly, is a cash cow. And now it just seems like they were stringing people like Yuki, Kei, and Inaba along until they could pull this. Oh Inaba! D: Now our songs are going to lack awesome background vocals.
Looks like we were right about those Mega Bests.
And whoever was the mastermind behind this... here's a big middle finger from me.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :gyaaah: :pleeease: :on speedy:
Whoever is responsible for this should be shot, really. I can't believe it!!! Why the hell would you do something like this?! H!P is gonna collapse soon, without some of our best artists. Where are they going to go?! :mon cry:
This sucks ass, really. I'm so pissed and sad right now. Stupid news ruined my entire day (it's 9:17 am) :mon whine:
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H!P just died to me. I just lost a good 90% of who I loved in it...
But after having taken the time to read through the thread and calm down, I guessing it's for the best no matter how painful. They can be free to do things idols can't which makes me happy and hopfully they can find a label that doesn't push them to the back burner for a bunch of teenagers. But still, I'm sad that this includes like all but 5 of my favorite H!P members...
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JP-R?? INTERESTING!!! ALMOND!
I wonder if they can at least sing their hits, I'm fuckin tired of Morning Musume classics getting raped at every concert. YOU CANT DO RIKA'S PEACE MONOLOGUE MUTHAFUCKAZ!!!!
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This is a sad day, a very sad day . . . . . . .
All the people that made me a fan is going!
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YOU CANT DO RIKA'S PEACE MONOLOGUE MUTHAFUCKAZ!!!!
:lol:
honestly, this is pretty shitty. unless something EPIC is happening with all these girls.
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i just can say
WTF??!!
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There's still 5 months left until the graduation, so UFA is probably going to antagonize the fans with releasing bits of info about them little by little.
It do think that most of the graduating H!P members will still be continuing on with their careers as entertainers, music or talento or idol-like. Probably some will still stay with UFA, some will left the entertainment world.
In a way, this maybe a release for most of the members, and are able to live a normal life, boyfriend, marraige, etc, do what they want.
I hope Yossy will still stay as she is, though... She seems happy...
And i dunno about this, But I do have a feeling that if Matsuura Aya were to move to another label, she would be in Pony Canyon label.
I do think H!P/UFA artists would have more probability of moving to either Pony Canyon or Sony, since their subsidary labels are under UFA.
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Holy fuck people! And here I thought only the guys at JPM panicked like this. SERIOUSLY! Get a grip!
In the end, everyone needs to remember that H!P is JUST A NAME used so that the girls have some type of connection/association with one another. "Hello! Project" isn't an actual business company, it's just a name, just a label. From what has been released so far, there's nothing that says that after the EC graduation, the graduating EC members will no longer be employed by UFA/UFW (all H!P members are employed by UFA/UFW). Just because they'll no longer have the H!P label associated with them doesn't mean that they'll stop working.
"Hello! Project" is known as being a group of "idols" (as Slack stated, focusing mainily on under-20 idols). In that sense, it's quite logical for the EC members to leave behind the "H!P" banner because none of them are really "idols" anymore. They've all grown up and no longer use nor fit the "idol image". Many of them are still releasing their own (more "grown-up") styles of songs/singles/albums, even if it's not on as frequent a basis as we may like. They're doing theatre and musicals, acting, modeling, hosting and appearing on other TV shows, and so forth.
Unless an new official statement emerges stating otherwise, the EC graduation will NOT be the last we see of all of them (i.e. they're NOT all going to completely disappear just because they're no longer under the H!P banner). It's like when you graduate from high school or university. Life still will go on even though you're no longer in that group/environment that you've gotten used to and that people have gotten used to seeing you in.
And someone in a previous post here in this thread that this will change things here at JPH!P. There's no reason why it would need to. Does the fact that they're graduating mean that we give up on them? Fuck no. All that will need to be done is to create a new subforum for the graduating members/groups and call it something like "Formerly Hello!Project" .
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Now I'm betting at least some of them will move to this lovely agency (http://www.jp-r.co.jp/) that popped up pretty recently and has only four talent - Fujimoto Miki, Ogawa Makoto, Mano Erina, and Tokito Ami.
Miki-sama's the "Godmother" of JP-R! Oh the fun that can be had!
:wahaha:
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I just finished subtitling 3rd volume of Berryz and C-ute's solo event dvd... I come back to my pc, I open JPH!P and what do I see....
:shock: Half of H!P is graduating... Now this is something major.... My first thoughts were WTF how could they do such a thing... :frustrated: :grr: :scolding: :pleeease: :fainted:
But now that I've calmed down - I can think this over properly. After all the thinking... Since I've started to be interested in H!P about two years ago - and I'm a big Berryz Koubou fan - I don't think that I will properly miss all the graduated members. It is though a pity that all of them graduate. But after all - Mari, which I like too, has her own tv program - as well as she didn't sing anything for past couple of years. Matsuura... I think she will be able to carry on without H!P. Miki - I think that she will also continue her career. As for the rest... I think they will be completely fine either carrying on their careers or living a completely normal life.
Now I'm looking forward to seeing next actions from UFA. I'm really interested in what will come after all the graduates.
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AVEX is going to have a field day haha
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Oh wow. I don't even know what to say, I guess everything was said already.
I kinda saw it coming, what with the Mega best releases and stuff, and I'm also trying not to make a big deal out of it. I mean, there's this other company appearing already, and they're gonna do the same things they did before. Apparently, the only difference is that they won't be seen as H!P idols anymore, which is good for them.
Still, is kinda sad/weird to see all these graduations going on. I mean, Matsuura Aya graduating? Never saw it coming...
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Holy fuck people! And here I thought only the guys at JPM panicked like this. SERIOUSLY! Get a grip!
In the end, everyone needs to remember that H!P is JUST A NAME used so that the girls have some type of connection/association with one another. "Hello! Project" isn't an actual business company, it's just a name, just a label. From what has been released so far, there's nothing that says that after the EC graduation, the graduating EC members will no longer be employed by UFA/UFW (all H!P members are employed by UFA/UFW). Just because they'll no longer have the H!P label associated with them doesn't mean that they'll stop working.
"Hello! Project" is known as being a group of "idols" (as Slack stated, focusing mainily on under-20 idols). In that sense, it's quite logical for the EC members to leave behind the "H!P" banner because none of them are really "idols" anymore. They've all grown up and no longer use nor fit the "idol image". Many of them are still releasing their own (more "grown-up") styles of songs/singles/albums, even if it's not on as frequent a basis as we may like. They're doing theatre and musicals, acting, modeling, hosting and appearing on other TV shows, and so forth.
Unless an new official statement emerges stating otherwise, the EC graduation will NOT be the last we see of all of them (i.e. they're NOT all going to completely disappear just because they're no longer under the H!P banner). It's like when you graduate from high school or university. Life still will go on even though you're no longer in that group/environment that you've gotten used to and that people have gotten used to seeing you in.
And someone in a previous post here in this thread that this will change things here at JPH!P. There's no reason why it would need to. Does the fact that they're graduating mean that we give up on them? Fuck no. All that will need to be done is to create a new subforum for the graduating members/groups and call it something like "Formerly Hello!Project" .
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Now I'm betting at least some of them will move to this lovely agency (http://www.jp-r.co.jp/) that popped up pretty recently and has only four talent - Fujimoto Miki, Ogawa Makoto, Mano Erina, and Tokito Ami.
Miki-sama's the "Godmother" of JP-R! Oh the fun that can be had!
:wahaha:
JP-R sounds interesting...it seems to be UFA-affiliated too, and Miki and Makocchan are already on it. Perhaps some other EC members will be in JP-R like almond thinks.
And a big thumbs up to this post. I understand it's a shock to many people, it's a shock to Japanese fans too (the news was posted on mixi and has 787 comments, and it's the second most-accessed and first most-commented-on entertainment news article on mixi currently), and it shocked me, too. But I'm a pretty optimistic doink when it comes to some of these members - Nacchi, Yossie, Rika, Aya, Miki, Mai and Mari in particular I can see being more active outside of H!P (they were already the most active members of all in the EC, even if they did not sing much they had many other media appearances, plays, etc.). It can be a boost to their careers if everything is worked out properly.
I don't know about the less-active or less-popular members, though. Some might stay with UFA or a UFA-affiliated agency, but others might leave either UFA or the entertainment industry altogether.
I'm looking forward to seeing what everyone's plans will be...and I will still follow H!P, even though I like a lot of the EC members I still like MoMusu and the Kids groups and I want to see how Manoeri's solo career will develop and what they'll do with the Taiwan audition winners. I'll also follow whatever my favorite EC members will be doing.
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Holy shit.
http://www.helloproject.com/newslist/hello_0810191500.html
The following members will be graduating from Hello! Project altogether 2009/03/31:
Nakazawa Yuko
Iida Kaori
Abe Natsumi
Yasuda Kei
Yaguchi Mari
Ishikawa Rika
Yoshizawa Hitomi
Tsuji Nozomi
Konno Asami
Ogawa Makoto
Fujimoto Miki
Inaba Atsuko
Satoda Mai
Melon Kinenbi
Maeda Yuki
Matsuura Aya
Miyoshi Erika
Okada Yui
Ongaku Gatas
The concerts on 1/31 and 2/1 will be their last ones.
What?
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Well.
wow.
First : it will increase some great performers like Mikitty & Ayaya.
Second : it will allow Rika to be more seeeeexy (read it like chaaaarmy).
Third : BerryZ ARE OLDZ now... and so will be °C-ute. I think that's the moment for H!P Egg to invade the world of wotas... (sigh... ).
Hopefully, we'll be able to have some news for the others... but this is clearly the end of something.
Can we make a new agency and get some of old members ?
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:OMG: :angry1: :fainted: :farofflook: :frustrated: :scared: :pleeease: :stoned: :shock: :on blackhole: :on cloudeye: :on speedy:
Chika is dead right now, please stand by.
She will be back when the tears stop falling.
I can't believe it! I love the elder club!
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It was hard enough for them to get releases under H!P umbrella, I doubt they get anything now. Up-Front is the king when it comes to artists on hiatus. I'm honest when I say I doubt the graduated people stays in UFA. It's a big second coming of Maki-situation, but now ala stampede. The news are signed by UFA's director and there is no mention the girls will be staying. Yuko and Tsunku's messages don't even talk about it. If they stay or not, it's our assumption.
Just like Ayaka Kimura focused on acting and went to a specialized agency, I feel like everyone's gonna do the same now. Whoever didn't get a solo career in H!P can forget about getting it on Up-Front. UFA is limited and can't guarantee success for every single one of them. They don't have the money to produce them all individually anyway. Those that were in H!P for plays and variety shows (a lot of them) will probably move on to specialized agency. Those that get luckier will probably get picked-up by other labels to pursue their singing career. That is, if the label has knocked their doors already..
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:OMG: :angry1: :fainted: :farofflook: :frustrated: :scared: :pleeease: :stoned: :shock: :on blackhole: :on cloudeye: :on speedy:
Chika is dead right now, please stand by.
AwwwwWwWWWWWWwWWWOUuUH! KAWAII!!
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Out with the old in with the new :heart:
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oh well, was bound to happen anyways. can't imagine yuko jumping around with a 6-yr old egg anymore. so, interested how things will develop for everyone.
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Out with the old in with the new :heart:
This is all you have to say? Hadn't been for the "old" the new wouldn't exist, in first place. :tntrm:
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:lol: you need to calm down. You are way too pessimistic about this. You don't need to bring that kind of feeling to the people who are actually happy about it. It isn't the end of the world, and if H!P is your world, it's the rebirth!
You talk like this isn't what some of the members want, and it will only end in disaster. If some end up in specialized agencies, that's great. Their talents were recognized and they'll still be doing something in the business. Some probably want to marry and have children, they can do that no problem. They've probably saved enough to secure their futures.
Some of you people are too caught in this thing called H!P and haven't realized that each of them are seperate people with different goals. This could be a chance for them to pursue them without the H!P label holding them back. The only downside is that they don't have something like H!P to direct them where to go, but this is a challenge that will prove if they really want to be in this industry.
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The more I think about it the more I wonder if there is plans to move everyone (or most) to another agency affiliated with H!P (like J-records that almond found)... I understand graduating all the members who are older and breaking them of the idol they no longer fall under, but what about Sawacchan, Sengoku and Nocchi? I see no sense in graduating them just coz they were part of OG and thus Elder's clubs memberes unless there is plans to carry the group on to some degree... They aren't over Idol age, they were/are still part of the eggs and they don't play a very important part in the Gatas team (well they do, but they aren't very good at it :P).
If the members are all being graduated and left to go off where they all want than I feel this girls have really been treated badly here, especially seeing now they have bigger fan bases from OG than they use to and would have been good to keep in H!P to raise the popularity of the Eggs... If they graduate my two fave eggs and just shove them back into a normal life (coz I don't they will be able to make it anywhere else unless they gone AKB48 or something XD) after giving them hope of a bright future with OG, then I will be mighty damned pissed off!!! :angry:
Put them back a step with the other Eggs in "UF Eggs" or whatever it is, and I will be happy once more :)
Surely the other Eggs fans are pretty peeved at this too (help me out here shirenu :P)
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Quote from: Kyats on Today at 01:24:32 PM
Out with the old in with the new
This is all you have to say? Hadn't been for the "old" the new wouldn't exist, in first place.
That is so true!
So yes, I feel aggraviated. I became fan of MM and the proyect for the elders club (when said group did not exist). Also I feel relief because now the girls do have to wait for the approval of UP FRONT to do any project is thrown their way. I think they have proven their worth time and again and I think they are going to have at least more control on their carrers now if they decide to remain in the business.
Am I happy with they girls left behind? No at all. Excuse me If I'm offending someone by saying this but they would be students like any normal japanesse girl if it wasn't for the elders who practically paved the path for the youngers. So if they are going to carry "the torch", they should put more than they are now. Do not misundertand me I love they youngers too. They are talented; yes, they can dance and sing; but what is lacking in the department of characters creation (meaning: or all are cute or all are cool).
Let's just pray for the project's future, of those leaving the project and of those left behind.
:smoke:
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Oh My God That Is like everybody! How can they do that? I am so shocked & pissed. I honest to god NEVER thought That Yuko,Aya & Rika Would go. Why are they all going at the same time?! are they really trying to keep kids in H!P so they don't date or are they really getting ready to close it down forever. I swear i dont even like them anymore! Abe & Aya are H!P's best singers what now? I I feel like I will never See Rika & Erika Again! & what will Yuko Do, I never thought Iida & Tsuji were comming back so that's not really shocling But WOW! Are they trying to save money because they cant afford to pay them all? But my God ALL OF THEM! That sucks! & what about Hangry & Angry, where they a one time thing? & Poor MKB. I can't believe this. I am sooooooo mad right now. What will happen to Rika & erika! aaaawwwwwwwww
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The more I think about it the more I wonder if there is plans to move everyone (or most) to another agency affiliated with H!P (like J-records that almond found)... I understand graduating all the members who are older and breaking them of the idol they no longer fall under, but what about Sawacchan, Sengoku and Nocchi? I see no sense in graduating them just coz they were part of OG and thus Elder's clubs memberes unless there is plans to carry the group on to some degree... They aren't over Idol age, they were/are still part of the eggs and they don't play a very important part in the Gatas team (well they do, but they aren't very good at it :P).
If the members are all being graduated and left to go off where they all want than I feel this girls have really been treated badly here, especially seeing now they have bigger fan bases from OG than they use to and would have been good to keep in H!P to raise the popularity of the Eggs... If they graduate my two fave eggs and just shove them back into a normal life (coz I don't they will be able to make it anywhere else unless they gone AKB48 or something XD) after giving them hope of a bright future with OG, then I will be mighty damned pissed off!!! :angry:
Put them back a step with the other Eggs in "UF Eggs" or whatever it is, and I will be happy once more :)
Surely the other Eggs fans are pretty peeved at this too (help me out here shirenu :P)
I don't think Minami, Sawada, and Nocchi are graduating. Kore probably will, but the other three -even though they're in OG- are still Eggs, so they'll probably stay with the Eggs. That makes more sense since they're still young.
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^ It doesn't explicitly state that the 3 will be booted as well but considering that the rest OG (besides Kore) are already accounted for in other sections of the announcement, it seems a little pointless to say OG will be graduating when it's only Kore left to include in the list... But you could be right, I am just assuming I guess *crosses fingers*
If that were the case they could have said "excl. the Eggs" which would have put me out of my misery :P
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^yeah, it doesn't make sense to me either to say OG for just Kore, but I'm thinking that's what they did (or because the group as a whole won't be around anymore.) Mostly I'm going off this:
(http://www.imgur.com/files/081019/Th.toro34183.jpg) (http://www.imgur.com/i.php?i=081019/toro34183.jpg)
Which has Kore but not the others. Though I'm not sure how accuarte that newsclipping is...
but logic says it would be stupid to take girls that still qualify as "idol-age" if the main reason for the mass grad is because they're over idol-age.
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Personally I'm not that bothered by the news. The sky definitely isn't falling like some people think.
A lot of the people in the list haven't done much in the last few years anyway. If they're staying on with UF* in some other capacity, just not under the H!P banner, then they'll continue to not do much, so no change there then. If they leave UF* and sign with someone else then they'll get more stuff to do than they are at present, so whatever happens we can't lose.
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Out with the old in with the new :heart:
This is all you have to say? Hadn't been for the "old" the new wouldn't exist, in first place. :tntrm:
And I appreciate them creating a ground for new members, but face it. Elder club wasn't doing that much anyway. Compared to Berryz, Cute and Morning Musume. They all seemed to be sitting on a shelf collecting dust, with tsunku coming around occasionally picking up and tinkering with his old toys.
Rika and Yossie are already with GOTHUAL as Hangry & Angry, And I imagine some of the other talents will be under some other UFA label. I'm 100% sure that they will still be around, just no longer apart of Hello!Project.
And honestly, I will be happy to see Tsunku spend a little more time on the more popular groups he has now instead of juggling other not-so-great-selling Soloists and units.
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Not to be alarmist, hearing that this will be at the end of March totally changes some things about what I had assumed.
I've heard somewhere before (don't remember where) that contract re-signings are in April. I think this was gone over once before when there was news that Maeda Yuki was graduating, but then that news was retracted. In that case, it may be entirely possible that a bunch of them didn't want to re-sign with UFA, or re-signed under different UFG companies prompting this mass graduation.
If they're no longer UFA, at least some of their contracts could go to J.P. Room (still under UFG), which was previously mentioned. They already have Ogawa, Fujimoto, and Manoeri listed as "talents" instead of "artists". J.P.Room's website describes it as having to do with TV production and Stage productions. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a bunch of familiar names appear on their talent list. Remember, UFA isn't the only company that UFG has.
Even if the absolute worst happens and none of them have their contracts under UFG companies anymore, I'm betting that more than a few of them will keep going in the entertainment business. With cases like MKB, even if they're completely gone, that's what, 9 years? How many groups last even half that?
But realistically, does anyone here think for a second that UFG would want to completely let go of Abe, Ishikawa, or Matsuura? If they aren't retaining them under UFA or one of their other companies, you can probably bet that they didn't let them go willingly. Which means that it would have been the girls' choice to not re-sign.
I'd prefer that their contracts stay right where they are now, but as the Elder Club members' activities spread out, UFG may have decided that some of their other companies could handle them better. If UFA's main purpose is to be the management agency for music groups, and a bunch of these Elder Club members don't do much except go on stage or on TV, it just makes sense for UFG to move their contracts to another child company that specializes in those activities.
So even if they're not with UFA, by no means does that mean that they've left UFG.
If you're still having trouble keeping positive about all this, there's some good analysis on the previous pages. Read some of that, and maybe this whole thing might not be as bad as you thought.
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Dude :O
I have mixed feelings about this but I just wish every single Elder Club member the best :heart:
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so, where is the trick? massive graduations? something is missing, i need more info
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Something sure is up.
Some corporate type had a bad idea that caught on? All the loose talent revolted for freedom? Bankruptcy fended off with massive firings?
There's a history of senior talent being neglected and we watched the demise of haromoni. Are the weaknesses of hp growing and overwhelming the strengths?
It'll be interesting (I hope not alarming) to see what happens with mm. It's been a while since any graduations or new generations, so what will come next?
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Just for clarification.
It's worth to have a look at
http://www.ufg.co.jp/associated.html and
http://www.ufg.co.jp/artist.html
If one tries to look what they might do in the future if they stay with UFG
Up-Front-Agency seems to be the correct company still, it's only purpose is to manage, train and promote them anyway.
If they don't want to sing anymore though they are probably really better in J.P.ROOM Inc.
Also if some would move to TNX they would still be within UFG.
Actually UpFront is such a huge company most can probably find a place somewhere but it does not change the fact that some fans will most likely see their favorite artists even less than before and that's probably what they are afraid of besides this announcement being the end of the Hello! Project as we have known it until today which isn't like any other news.
Mhhh it's also still some months before they graduate, they could also make yet another company or just move them within up-front-works to other labels. But I still doubt they have one solution for all graduating members.
The end of contract theory sounds interesting, it could explain why all of them graduate at once. Or they waited too long with graduating some time by time that they now better graduate all to move forward...
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I'm doubtful all them just decided that they were all not going to re-sign by "choice."
I'm almost pretty sure that this was a decision by the management. What exactly they're planning I don't really know. They could very well be re-signing new contracts for everyone.
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The massive graduation thing sounds absolutely crazy, but oh well... there goes whatever little interest I could still have in H!P.
I'm free. Bring on the korean boybands XD
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Several news postings have stated that 22 persons will graduate. This one (http://www.chunichi.co.jp/chuspo/article/entertainment/news/CK2008102002000142.html) explicitly names them, and the eggs of Ongaku Gatas are not on the list.
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Since there's still no announcement about what will the Elders do after they leave H!P (except that they're gonna still be under UFG), I don't think the current MM line-up will change in some time... this is purely speculation though.
I seem to recall that the winners of the Hello! Project Taiwan Audition will start their activities as H!P members in January 2009. Gotta start learning their names :lol:
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Eggs won't be graduating together with the rest of Ongaku Gatas. It's just illogical. But the thing that's logical is that half of Ongaku Gatas will graduate - which means that Ongaku Gatas is left with only eggs in it and that's a three-person unit, created to support Gatas Brilhantes H.P. in the first place - and if we assume that Gatas won't exist after graduation of its main players - then who needs a three-person unit, which supports nonexistent club? So it's completely logical to announce that Ongaku Gatas will graduate also.
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Yeah the way I understand Ongaku Gatas on that list is that the group will just cease to exist, kinda like Minimoni :lol: So the H!P Egg members should be safe. And tiny's post pretty much confirms that, anyway.
I'm almost starting to get excited about the "new" H!P :3 Only thing that I'm worried about is that pretty much all the good singers are getting the boot. I mean, it's not like I listened to people like Yuki Maeda that much anyway, but Elder Club concerts were just a whole different world vocally. Mature, strong voices. Now there are lots of cute and unique voices among the younger members, which I love, but... it's lacking in "maturity". Like, the new generations singing T&C Bomber songs would sound like chipmunk versions of them. LOL!!! I don't mean to diss because I love the cute voices, but I'd like it if there were lead singers with a deeper, richer voice out there, too. (SINA has one girl with a voice like this, but it seems like SINA will never really become a part of H!P... Unless they will be inserted after the major graduation) Or if someone with a cute voice was as talented as Ayaya, but nobody is even close to that.
ANYWAY YES I KNOW it's ridiculous to be a H!P fan and whine about vocals since they're not supposed to be the best singers, but I will miss the Elder Club concerts, yes.
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Okay... I'm very late at knowing this news (somehow didn't notice this thread, so I found out from H!O).
Initial reaction is the same as most people here. almost threw my notebook to the wall (well not really but I felt like doing it). but then as I read the posts and comments from the guys here I calmed down somewhat... I guess it makes sense to say that it's a restructuring of H!P, and that it's just a label... but! I guess the reason I was really upset was, as lots of people have said, that this really IS the end of an era! even if they're still under UFG it's just not the same. my thoughts are:
- So much for my dream of attending an H!P concert... haha
- Some of them might have a better chance in the business now (like Miki & Mako), but this also means that the ones that are not that popular won't have a chance at all (because they're no longer under the H!P umbrella).... It makes sense business-wise, but.... well its just sad.
hmmmm that's all for my rant... I just hope for the best now.. >_< I'm not gonna give up on them, but this is a bummer :(
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- So much for my dream of attending an H!P concert... haha
Same here ! I'm so angry I was planning to go to japan in winter 2010 to see a HP elder club concert :cry:
My dream was to see MKB in concert once in my life and it really reduce the chance to see them, one of my dream is over now and it's really hard :(
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When an idol fucks up, they have to be all apologetic to the fans for their plagiarism or smoking or having a boyfriend or whatever. Where are the apologies when management just goes and dissolves things?
I really feel for those who had plans to see any of the "graduating" members at a concert in the next couple years.
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Why is this such a terrible thing? o_o ~ Yeah I was shocked. And yeah... I can see how it would suck to have planed to see them at a concert sometime.
Yeah they made H!P ... But we cant expect them to stay like that forever.. With the no dating and all those stupid rules they have. I mean its not that stupid for a 16 year old to follow ... But Nakazawa Yuko? :lol:
(...Yeah I have no idea whos allowed to date and not but.. XD)
I see it as a good thing ... well as long as the others keep up what their doing now. :heart: :heart:
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Blah. I'm a little annoyed too. I wasn't following H!P a lot lately, but there goes any chance that I'll be coming back.
And Ayaya? Seriously? A group graduation?
Would H!P be around today if Ayaya hadn't kept it going virtually single handedly while MM careened around mediocre singles like a drunken whale with a balance problem?
And they can't even give her her own grad concert?
Whatever.
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I think the big deal is that, while yes... there was a lot of talent "sitting around collecting dust" (as someone so accurately said), at least every now and then we got to see them and a concert or whatever. I know I looked forward to Elder Club/Big H!P concerts so I could see people like Atsuko and Yuki perform.
So now, even though they are still under UF-whatever, there's an even bigger chance of them disappearing forever. I understand some of the older members may want to (like Yuko, perhaps), but I don't think this is a matter of everyone just said "Hey, we're tired of the idol image!" I mean, Ogawa's only 20 (almost 21)... so while she's older, she's not really un-idol. Takahashi and Junjun, and Risa are (or are around) the same age...
I'm just going to sit back and see what happens from here on out and keep track of my favorite members while I can.
And like everyone else, I'm pissed about the big group graduation, too. Some of them deserve to have a major graduation. Like JFC said, Ayaya helped hold it together and Yuko has been the leader for AGES. They deserve a little bit nicer send-off, imho. Also, it's a shame Kaori and Nono won't be there. I understand the reasons why, but it would've been nice.
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I've so much to say, but I won't repeat what many of you said. But for fun, I think this news caused JPM to crash. Maybe this will foreshadow some Ishikawa gravure-ness....
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But for fun, I think this news caused JPM to crash.
:rofl:
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Maybe this will foreshadow some Ishikawa gravure-ness....
yeah, yeah, i can feel it, i'm crossing finger so that can happen :shakeit: ... very unreal but we can dream
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A little off-topic, but bear with me.
I always thought it was a little ridiculous to blame Tsunku for every decision, bad or otherwise, that is made regarding Hello! Project. Sure, he writes the songs, and does a lot of behind the scenes stuff regarding the music itself, but I'm willing to bet that he has a lot less control over everything than people think.
At the most, I've seen him writing songs, presiding over the final rounds of auditions, tweaking concert setlists, give constructive criticism to the girls, and he USED to direct recording sessions in person.
What people need to remember is that Tsunku is a producer, not a manager, and unless you're talking about TNX, not the head of a company. Hello! Project was created as a marketing tool for the "Tsunku family", as it was called, and is a brand, not an institution.
And that's why I think it's unfair to blame Tsunku for this decision. UFA isn't his company. (TNX, on the other hand, is.)
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And that's why I think it's unfair to blame Tsunku for this decision. UFA isn't his company. (TNX, on the other hand, is.)
Well said, Slack.
I can say I'm very surprised, but at the same time, I didn't fall off my chair in shock or anything. In a way, you kind of saw it coming, but not at this magnitude, you know? I'll be selfish and just say that I'm relieved Momusu hasn't been touched and they're safe. As safe as they can get, anyway.
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So what do people think will happen to MM members when they graduate now?
I don't think they will change the line up for a while, or at least not grad anyone, coz of this massive change already, but when it does happen do you think they will start fresh with soloists in H!P or will they follow the rest of the graduated MM members now and have to leave H!P, leaving it as a label for main groups?
Also, thanks to everyone who helped free my mind of worry for the OG Eggs, I take back the rant I had :P
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^ Makes me wonder whose going to be elected as the leader of H!P now XD Taka, probably? Just because she's Taka, and already the leader of Momusu. Seems like a convenient and logical idea.
It seems that UFG just wants to start a-fresh with H!P, and although it'll definitely have its drawbacks and consequences, I can see it working in a way at the same time.
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A little off-topic, but bear with me.
I always thought it was a little ridiculous to blame Tsunku for every decision, bad or otherwise :banghead:, that is made regarding Hello! Project. Sure, he writes the songs, and does a lot of behind the scenes stuff regarding the music itself, but I'm willing to bet that he has a lot less control over everything than people think.
At the most, I've seen him writing songs, presiding over the final rounds of auditions, tweaking concert setlists, give constructive criticism to the girls, and he USED to direct recording sessions in person.
What people need to remember is that Tsunku is a producer, not a manager, and unless you're talking about TNX, not the head of a company. Hello! Project was created as a marketing tool for the "Tsunku family", as it was called, and is a brand, not an institution.
And that's why I think it's unfair to blame Tsunku for this decision. UFA isn't his company. (TNX, on the other hand, is.)
Tsunku is just a proxy and gives us someone to blame. :P I've always thought of it more as a joke than anything. But that's just me, some people might actually be serious about it.
Even though I also think he has very little to do with this decision, he was probably consulted about it and maybe even made the final decision. It's like blaming Truman for the a-bombs. ( :lol: such a fitting analogy)
About graduations from Momusu, I kinda hope they just graduate them out of H!P completely, unless they're exactly sure what they want that person to do within H!P. If they do keep them to do whatever, it's like they're doing what they used to do all over again. If they do let them go completely, they're kinda free to do what they wish. But because of this I also hope that they'll think about it a lot more before they graduate, instead of the "annual" graduation, lets get rid of someone.
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If they are ditching so many members, I would expect a MAJOR revamp of MM.
Graduate:
Nigaki
Kamei
Sayumi
Add more members.
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Graduate:
Nigaki
Kamei
Sayumi
I don't get it...
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I don't think they should even consider touching Morning Musume, not until at least a few months after the graduation of the Elder Club, they definitely don't need to get rid of any more members.
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^I don't think they should consider touching Momusume EVER - no more graduations please, thanks. We've already had enough. But since I don't know what's on UFA's mind - I don't know what can they do more. :bigdeal:
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I agree no MM graduations! :thumbdown: Tsunku mentioned on his blog that the current MM has been 9nin for a year now! I think this is the longest MM has gone without a graduation :) For now they shouldn't have anyone leave but they should add at least 2 or 3 girls so that when some graduate they can fill the spots.
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Good news. On this entry (http://melonlounge.blog72.fc2.com/blog-entry-1205.html) on the Melon Lounge blog Saito Hitomi writes that Melon Kinenbi will not break up after the graduation from H!P.
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^ awww that's great :w00t:
I guess now after the shock has settled it's getting pretty exciting to see what will happen with everyone, where they will go and which direction they are heading :D
Well at least till the actual final concerts and the last day, then it will be more sadness than excitement :P
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Good news. On this entry (http://melonlounge.blog72.fc2.com/blog-entry-1205.html) on the Melon Lounge blog Saito Hitomi writes that Melon Kinenbi will not break up after the graduation from H!P.
Thats some fantastic news, tiny, thanks for the heads up on that. :D
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who's gonna be the eldest now? Takahashi?
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who's gonna be the eldest now? Takahashi?
Makes sense. And it's kind of predictable.
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Good news. On this entry (http://melonlounge.blog72.fc2.com/blog-entry-1205.html) on the Melon Lounge blog Saito Hitomi writes that Melon Kinenbi will not break up after the graduation from H!P.
Thank you tiny for finding that out. I feel better about it, bring on the graduation.
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Good news. On this entry (http://melonlounge.blog72.fc2.com/blog-entry-1205.html) on the Melon Lounge blog Saito Hitomi writes that Melon Kinenbi will not break up after the graduation from H!P.
That is so good to hear!
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Nice to hear! I'm glad they're staying together, they have a long history together!
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Charmy showed me this earlier and my reaction was "OMG YAAAAY!"
MKB was one of the units I was saddest about leaving, so it's SUPER exciting to hear that they won't break up. I hope they can release a lot more stuff without being under the H!P umbrella. Also, this gives a lot of hope for other Elder Clubbers, as well! :heart:
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I'm so so happy for MKB and for me as a fan :P !
It makes me very entousiastic :w00t:
MKB :heart:
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Awesome news indeed :D
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Did it ever actually say in the official announcements that the reason they were graduating everyone is coz they are above idol age (or at least imply that pretty obviously)?
(i'm not questioning that being the reason, just wanted to know :P)
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Did it ever actually say in the official announcements that the reason they were graduating everyone is coz they are above idol age (or at least imply that pretty obviously)?
(i'm not questioning that being the reason, just wanted to know :P)
No, it didn't say that. Tsunku's announcement in particular said that it's been 10 years now and it is necessary for them to smash through the stereotypes that were built up of them to advance their careers.
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They'll probably get work as either OLs or office ladies (Nakazawa, Abe, Saito, Murata, Shibata, Otani, Satoda, Miyoshi), attendants at a ryokan (Inaba, Maeda, Yasuda), anchorwomen (Ishikawa), teachers (Yaguchi, Konno, Ogawa), Women's World Cup soccer players (Yoshizawa, some of the Gatas), stay-at-home moms/housewives (Iida, Tsuji), or even porn stars (Fujimoto, Okada, Matsuura).
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I did the math, and, unfortunately, here's what I calculated :cry::
43 H!P members (eggs not included) minus 22 Elders and 4 Gatas equals 18 H!P members left..... :(
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You sure about that one?
By my count:
9 Morning Musume +
7 Berryz +
7 C-ute +
1 Manoeri =
24 members
Maybe you counted the Gatas members twice?
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They'll probably get work as either OLs or office ladies (Nakazawa, Abe, Saito, Murata, Shibata, Otani, Satoda, Miyoshi), attendants at a ryokan (Inaba, Maeda, Yasuda), anchorwomen (Ishikawa), teachers (Yaguchi, Konno, Ogawa), Women's World Cup soccer players (Yoshizawa, some of the Gatas), stay-at-home moms/housewives (Iida, Tsuji), or even porn stars (Fujimoto, Okada, Matsuura).
LOL! I could so imagina Rika being an anchorwoman... coming from her experience in H!P News.. xDD
Yuko.. she was an OL before so.. makes sense...
Miki, Yui, Aya? Porn stars.. :w00t: a yes and a no-no.. lol bit o both
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They'll probably get work as either OLs or office ladies (Nakazawa, Abe, Saito, Murata, Shibata, Otani, Satoda, Miyoshi), attendants at a ryokan (Inaba, Maeda, Yasuda), anchorwomen (Ishikawa), teachers (Yaguchi, Konno, Ogawa), Women's World Cup soccer players (Yoshizawa, some of the Gatas), stay-at-home moms/housewives (Iida, Tsuji), or even porn stars (Fujimoto, Okada, Matsuura).
LOL! I could so imagina Rika being an anchorwoman... coming from her experience in H!P News.. xDD
Yuko.. she was an OL before so.. makes sense...
Miki, Yui, Aya? Porn stars.. :w00t: a yes and a no-no.. lol bit o both
Miki gropes members and she kissed Aya in that GAM PV. Yui got big bouncy.....um,you know :inlove:. Why the heck not!?
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They'll probably get work as either OLs or office ladies (Nakazawa, Abe, Saito, Murata, Shibata, Otani, Satoda, Miyoshi), attendants at a ryokan (Inaba, Maeda, Yasuda), anchorwomen (Ishikawa), teachers (Yaguchi, Konno, Ogawa), Women's World Cup soccer players (Yoshizawa, some of the Gatas), stay-at-home moms/housewives (Iida, Tsuji), or even porn stars (Fujimoto, Okada, Matsuura).
LOL! I could so imagina Rika being an anchorwoman... coming from her experience in H!P News.. xDD
Yuko.. she was an OL before so.. makes sense...
Miki, Yui, Aya? Porn stars.. :w00t: a yes and a no-no.. lol bit o both
Miki gropes members and she kissed Aya in that GAM PV. Yui got big bouncy.....um,you know :inlove:. Why the heck not!?
I think I would actually get into porn if that happened.
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Just found out today. :banghead: :cry:
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I actually felt happy hearing this, cos I felt Elder Club was an ugly name. And hoped this was just dissolving the name, and having the elites stand on their own 2 legs like most of them are already doing so well.
And also to have an event to celebrate it. all winners.
Read MKB's reply yesterday, and it's great to hear they're solid. :oops:
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http://www.hello-online.org/index.php?act=helloonline&CODE=article&topic=570
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The new structure of the H!P Fan Club (FC) has been announced. As of April 2009 the current FC will be divided into four:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/tinybaka/hp/th_fanclub1.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/tinybaka/hp/fanclub1.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/tinybaka/hp/th_fanclub2.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/tinybaka/hp/fanclub2.jpg)
A) Hello! Project
B) Morning Musume OG (includes Ongaku Gatas)
C) Matsuura Aya
D) Melon Kinenbi
For Inaba Atsuko, Maeda Yuki, Miyoshi Erika and Okada Yui a special web site will be opened.
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the new fanclubs make me feel a little more hopeful! with the new fanclubs, hopefully that means the members are staying and get work and events..etc.
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^Of course they will. Most of them already have a lot of activities outside - they won't be just simply kicked out and forgotten.
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Yay Inaba! :wub:
Yay Melon Kinenbi! :wub:
Love&Peace
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^Of course they will. Most of them already have a lot of activities outside - they won't be just simply kicked out and forgotten.
With UFA management you never know....this is why everyone was worried in the first place. It's a good thing we are getting some kind of confirmations about their futures lately.
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Haha, I just heard the news. There's no graduation, it was all a trick. Hahahahahahahahaha!
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2vdmjk4.jpg)
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Does this mean Tsunk is Never Gonna Give (them) Up?
Love&Peace
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I guess a slight win/win. It lets the older girls pursue their own goals, without "hurting" the image. Maybe see another "Yubi" like film or another Yo-Yo Cop Girl (with some girl/girl action!)
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FUCK YOU TSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOONK! Quit playig games with my heart.
Dan tells me "they gonna make seperate fan clubs so the wotas have to pay extra." The Inaba Fan Club is gonna be OFF THE CHARTS! XD
Back to singing GOD DAMN cover songs from the 70s and 80s as per usual. FUCK.
Hangy & Angry is about the freshest thing H!P related has!
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Quit playig games with my heart.
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what will become of them in this new structure :shocked
they can't just disappear!
Better have some good dreams about that...
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Quit playig games with my heart.
A1KdkQv0FfI
It's sad how I can still sing that song by heart.