Author Topic: [News] Elder Club members graduating next year (Read 49316 times)

redux · « **Reply #80 on:** October 19, 2008, 09:51:14 PM »

Quote from: Ayabie on October 19, 2008, 08:29:56 AM

Holy shit.

http://www.helloproject.com/newslist/hello_0810191500.html

The following members will be graduating from Hello! Project altogether 2009/03/31:

Nakazawa Yuko
Iida Kaori
Abe Natsumi
Yasuda Kei
Yaguchi Mari
Ishikawa Rika
Yoshizawa Hitomi
Tsuji Nozomi
Konno Asami
Ogawa Makoto
Fujimoto Miki
Inaba Atsuko
Satoda Mai
Melon Kinenbi
Maeda Yuki
Matsuura Aya
Miyoshi Erika
Okada Yui
Ongaku Gatas

The concerts on 1/31 and 2/1 will be their last ones.

What?

Wonderboy · « **Reply #81 on:** October 19, 2008, 10:08:04 PM »

Well.

wow.

First : it will increase some great performers like Mikitty & Ayaya.
Second : it will allow Rika to be more seeeeexy (read it like chaaaarmy).
Third : BerryZ ARE OLDZ now... and so will be °C-ute. I think that's the moment for H!P Egg to invade the world of wotas... (sigh... ).

Hopefully, we'll be able to have some news for the others... but this is clearly the end of something.

Can we make a new agency and get some of old members ?

Chika-chan · « **Reply #82 on:** October 19, 2008, 10:20:59 PM »

Chika is dead right now, please stand by.

She will be back when the tears stop falling.

I can't believe it! I love the elder club!

Linus · « **Reply #83 on:** October 19, 2008, 10:32:45 PM »

It was hard enough for them to get releases under H!P umbrella, I doubt they get anything now. Up-Front is the king when it comes to artists on hiatus. I'm honest when I say I doubt the graduated people stays in UFA. It's a big second coming of Maki-situation, but now ala stampede. The news are signed by UFA's director and there is no mention the girls will be staying. Yuko and Tsunku's messages don't even talk about it. If they stay or not, it's our assumption.

Just like Ayaka Kimura focused on acting and went to a specialized agency, I feel like everyone's gonna do the same now. Whoever didn't get a solo career in H!P can forget about getting it on Up-Front. UFA is limited and can't guarantee success for every single one of them. They don't have the money to produce them all individually anyway. Those that were in H!P for plays and variety shows (a lot of them) will probably move on to specialized agency. Those that get luckier will probably get picked-up by other labels to pursue their singing career. That is, if the label has knocked their doors already..

meowchi · « **Reply #84 on:** October 19, 2008, 11:09:40 PM »

Quote from: Chika-chan on October 19, 2008, 10:20:59 PM

Chika is dead right now, please stand by.

AwwwwWwWWWWWWwWWWOUuUH! KAWAII!!

Kyats · « **Reply #85 on:** October 19, 2008, 11:24:32 PM »

Out with the old in with the new

kingthaking81 · « **Reply #86 on:** October 19, 2008, 11:50:21 PM »

oh well, was bound to happen anyways. can't imagine yuko jumping around with a 6-yr old egg anymore. so, interested how things will develop for everyone.

Linus · « **Reply #87 on:** October 20, 2008, 12:06:57 AM »

Quote from: Kyats on October 19, 2008, 11:24:32 PM

Out with the old in with the new

This is all you have to say? Hadn't been for the "old" the new wouldn't exist, in first place.

StreakInTheSky · « **Reply #88 on:** October 20, 2008, 12:40:54 AM »

you need to calm down. You are way too pessimistic about this. You don't need to bring that kind of feeling to the people who are actually happy about it. It isn't the end of the world, and if H!P is your world, it's the rebirth!

You talk like this isn't what some of the members want, and it will only end in disaster. If some end up in specialized agencies, that's great. Their talents were recognized and they'll still be doing something in the business. Some probably want to marry and have children, they can do that no problem. They've probably saved enough to secure their futures.

Some of you people are too caught in this thing called H!P and haven't realized that each of them are seperate people with different goals. This could be a chance for them to pursue them without the H!P label holding them back. The only downside is that they don't have something like H!P to direct them where to go, but this is a challenge that will prove if they really want to be in this industry.

lollipopgirl · « **Reply #89 on:** October 20, 2008, 01:41:12 AM »

The more I think about it the more I wonder if there is plans to move everyone (or most) to another agency affiliated with H!P (like J-records that almond found)... I understand graduating all the members who are older and breaking them of the idol they no longer fall under, but what about Sawacchan, Sengoku and Nocchi? I see no sense in graduating them just coz they were part of OG and thus Elder's clubs memberes unless there is plans to carry the group on to some degree... They aren't over Idol age, they were/are still part of the eggs and they don't play a very important part in the Gatas team (well they do, but they aren't very good at it

).
If the members are all being graduated and left to go off where they all want than I feel this girls have really been treated badly here, especially seeing now they have bigger fan bases from OG than they use to and would have been good to keep in H!P to raise the popularity of the Eggs... If they graduate my two fave eggs and just shove them back into a normal life (coz I don't they will be able to make it anywhere else unless they gone AKB48 or something

) after giving them hope of a bright future with OG, then I will be mighty damned pissed off!!!

Put them back a step with the other Eggs in "UF Eggs" or whatever it is, and I will be happy once more

Surely the other Eggs fans are pretty peeved at this too (help me out here shirenu

)

Yankii Heart · « **Reply #90 on:** October 20, 2008, 01:50:21 AM »

Quote

Quote from: Kyats on Today at 01:24:32 PM
Out with the old in with the new
This is all you have to say? Hadn't been for the "old" the new wouldn't exist, in first place.

That is so true!

So yes, I feel aggraviated. I became fan of MM and the proyect for the elders club (when said group did not exist). Also I feel relief because now the girls do have to wait for the approval of UP FRONT to do any project is thrown their way. I think they have proven their worth time and again and I think they are going to have at least more control on their carrers now if they decide to remain in the business.

Am I happy with they girls left behind? No at all. Excuse me If I'm offending someone by saying this but they would be students like any normal japanesse girl if it wasn't for the elders who practically paved the path for the youngers. So if they are going to carry "the torch", they should put more than they are now. Do not misundertand me I love they youngers too. They are talented; yes, they can dance and sing; but what is lacking in the department of characters creation (meaning: or all are cute or all are cool).

Let's just pray for the project's future, of those leaving the project and of those left behind.

prettylovely1 · « **Reply #91 on:** October 20, 2008, 01:58:50 AM »

Oh My God That Is like everybody! How can they do that? I am so shocked & pissed. I honest to god NEVER thought That Yuko,Aya & Rika Would go. Why are they all going at the same time?! are they really trying to keep kids in H!P so they don't date or are they really getting ready to close it down forever. I swear i dont even like them anymore! Abe & Aya are H!P's best singers what now? I I feel like I will never See Rika & Erika Again! & what will Yuko Do, I never thought Iida & Tsuji were comming back so that's not really shocling But WOW! Are they trying to save money because they cant afford to pay them all? But my God ALL OF THEM! That sucks! & what about Hangry & Angry, where they a one time thing? & Poor MKB. I can't believe this. I am sooooooo mad right now. What will happen to Rika & erika! aaaawwwwwwwww

genericpaperdoll · « **Reply #92 on:** October 20, 2008, 02:07:57 AM »

Quote from: lollipopgirl on October 20, 2008, 01:41:12 AM

The more I think about it the more I wonder if there is plans to move everyone (or most) to another agency affiliated with H!P (like J-records that almond found)... I understand graduating all the members who are older and breaking them of the idol they no longer fall under, but what about Sawacchan, Sengoku and Nocchi? I see no sense in graduating them just coz they were part of OG and thus Elder's clubs memberes unless there is plans to carry the group on to some degree... They aren't over Idol age, they were/are still part of the eggs and they don't play a very important part in the Gatas team (well they do, but they aren't very good at it ).
If the members are all being graduated and left to go off where they all want than I feel this girls have really been treated badly here, especially seeing now they have bigger fan bases from OG than they use to and would have been good to keep in H!P to raise the popularity of the Eggs... If they graduate my two fave eggs and just shove them back into a normal life (coz I don't they will be able to make it anywhere else unless they gone AKB48 or something ) after giving them hope of a bright future with OG, then I will be mighty damned pissed off!!!
Put them back a step with the other Eggs in "UF Eggs" or whatever it is, and I will be happy once more

Surely the other Eggs fans are pretty peeved at this too (help me out here shirenu )

I don't think Minami, Sawada, and Nocchi are graduating. Kore probably will, but the other three -even though they're in OG- are still Eggs, so they'll probably stay with the Eggs. That makes more sense since they're still young.

lollipopgirl · « **Reply #93 on:** October 20, 2008, 02:34:26 AM »

^ It doesn't explicitly state that the 3 will be booted as well but considering that the rest OG (besides Kore) are already accounted for in other sections of the announcement, it seems a little pointless to say OG will be graduating when it's only Kore left to include in the list... But you could be right, I am just assuming I guess *crosses fingers*
If that were the case they could have said "excl. the Eggs" which would have put me out of my misery

genericpaperdoll · « **Reply #94 on:** October 20, 2008, 02:40:14 AM »

^yeah, it doesn't make sense to me either to say OG for just Kore, but I'm thinking that's what they did (or because the group as a whole won't be around anymore.) Mostly I'm going off this:

Which has Kore but not the others. Though I'm not sure how accuarte that newsclipping is...
but logic says it would be stupid to take girls that still qualify as "idol-age" if the main reason for the mass grad is because they're over idol-age.

~Dan~ · « **Reply #95 on:** October 20, 2008, 03:09:03 AM »

Personally I'm not that bothered by the news. The sky definitely isn't falling like some people think.
A lot of the people in the list haven't done much in the last few years anyway. If they're staying on with UF* in some other capacity, just not under the H!P banner, then they'll continue to not do much, so no change there then. If they leave UF* and sign with someone else then they'll get more stuff to do than they are at present, so whatever happens we can't lose.

Kyats · « **Reply #96 on:** October 20, 2008, 03:21:21 AM »

Quote from: Linus on October 20, 2008, 12:06:57 AM

Quote from: Kyats on October 19, 2008, 11:24:32 PM
Out with the old in with the new
This is all you have to say? Hadn't been for the "old" the new wouldn't exist, in first place.

And I appreciate them creating a ground for new members, but face it. Elder club wasn't doing that much anyway. Compared to Berryz, Cute and Morning Musume. They all seemed to be sitting on a shelf collecting dust, with tsunku coming around occasionally picking up and tinkering with his old toys.

Rika and Yossie are already with GOTHUAL as Hangry & Angry, And I imagine some of the other talents will be under some other UFA label. I'm 100% sure that they will still be around, just no longer apart of Hello!Project.

And honestly, I will be happy to see Tsunku spend a little more time on the more popular groups he has now instead of juggling other not-so-great-selling Soloists and units.

Slack · « **Reply #97 on:** October 20, 2008, 03:40:10 AM »

Not to be alarmist, hearing that this will be at the end of March totally changes some things about what I had assumed.

I've heard somewhere before (don't remember where) that contract re-signings are in April. I think this was gone over once before when there was news that Maeda Yuki was graduating, but then that news was retracted. In that case, it may be entirely possible that a bunch of them didn't want to re-sign with UFA, or re-signed under different UFG companies prompting this mass graduation.

If they're no longer UFA, at least some of their contracts could go to J.P. Room (still under UFG), which was previously mentioned. They already have Ogawa, Fujimoto, and Manoeri listed as "talents" instead of "artists". J.P.Room's website describes it as having to do with TV production and Stage productions. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a bunch of familiar names appear on their talent list. Remember, UFA isn't the only company that UFG has.

Even if the absolute worst happens and none of them have their contracts under UFG companies anymore, I'm betting that more than a few of them will keep going in the entertainment business. With cases like MKB, even if they're completely gone, that's what, 9 years? How many groups last even half that?

But realistically, does anyone here think for a second that UFG would want to completely let go of Abe, Ishikawa, or Matsuura? If they aren't retaining them under UFA or one of their other companies, you can probably bet that they didn't let them go willingly. Which means that it would have been the girls' choice to not re-sign.

I'd prefer that their contracts stay right where they are now, but as the Elder Club members' activities spread out, UFG may have decided that some of their other companies could handle them better. If UFA's main purpose is to be the management agency for music groups, and a bunch of these Elder Club members don't do much except go on stage or on TV, it just makes sense for UFG to move their contracts to another child company that specializes in those activities.

So even if they're not with UFA, by no means does that mean that they've left UFG.

If you're still having trouble keeping positive about all this, there's some good analysis on the previous pages. Read some of that, and maybe this whole thing might not be as bad as you thought.

Pinkosa · « **Reply #98 on:** October 20, 2008, 03:57:24 AM »

Dude

I have mixed feelings about this but I just wish every single Elder Club member the best

shurastriker · « **Reply #99 on:** October 20, 2008, 04:30:35 AM »

so, where is the trick? massive graduations? something is missing, i need more info