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The PIEHOLE => H!P News and Releases => Topic started by: sousora on September 19, 2009, 10:20:26 AM
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http://www.up-fc.jp/helloproject/202news.php (http://www.up-fc.jp/helloproject/202news.php)
Says she'll be leaving at the end of the current tour.
edit: http://www.up-fc.jp/helloproject/202news_kusumi.php (http://www.up-fc.jp/helloproject/202news_kusumi.php) Message from Koharu herself. Says she wants to go into modelling.
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as less she have a dream to continue as a model..
go go koha..=)
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NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
SHE'S ONE OF MY FAV MEMBERS IN H!P
SHE'S SO CHARISMATIC
WHAT!!!!!!!!! ACKKKK NOT HER!!!
OK 2009 FUCKING SUCKS!!! KAEPYON SAWACHAN AND NOW KOHARU
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'VE NEVER LOST THIS MANY FAVS IN ONE YEAR!!!!!!!!! WTF IS THIS SHIT!!!!!!
WHAT
THE
FUCK
IS
THIS
SHIT
!!!!!!
KOHARU YOU COULDN'T GET A BOYFRIEND JUST A FEW YEARS LATER??
(YOU KNOW THAT'S THE REAL REASON!!!)
THIS CAME SO OUT OF THE BLUE WTF. I COULD'VE EXPECTED ANYONE FROM 6TH GEN BUT NOT KOHARU WTF
SO IT HAS TO BE A BOYFRIEND!! I HATE YOU PENIS PEOPLE!!!
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Well, this is out of the blue. XD
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Yeah totally didn't see this coming. But then, I suppose I should have, if Tsunku insists on marketing Koharu as the next Miracle after the sensation Maki was...
Good luck to her on her modelling future!
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You can't make me believe this...
You just..can't.
Excuse me, going to go cry in the corner now.
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Welcome to Hello Project fandom, comrades. Where the next "graduation" is almost always the one you LEAST expected...
Makes no sense but as shishi said, there's a backstory to this. One day, we'll find out what it was.
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!!!!!! WHAT THE HELL!!
What a horrible way to start the weekend! :shocked:
edit: maybe they're doing it to boost the sales for her latest single in MM :nervous
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When I first heard about this I was thinking BULLSHIT. But it's fucking true & I don't like it but I'll accept it. :(
Even though I didn't exactly like her singing voice all that much she won me over with her bubbly personality (& the fact that she got hotter as she got older); which made her one of my favorites in MM & all of H!P. I actually ended up liking her singing eventually later on in her career.
Still, what the fuck? :angry: But good luck to her with the whole modeling thing, I think she'll do well. All I ask of her is to throw some us a bone & do gravure please. :fap
But until then I'm going to join all the other people in the corner & cry.
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im surprised its koha.
not to be mean but logically they're been at nine members since aika join at the very start of 2007. try adding another/more members into some of the dances. it wouldnt work to well.
the average time spent in morning musume before the current members (minus yoshizawa and lida) wasnt overly long. koha has been in the group 4 years. i mean really it could of been anyone minus maybe aika. 5th gen been there for 8 years now. 6th gen too have been there for awhile, any of them could go on to solo careers in something, koha had a decent solo career already. junjun and linlin could go back home maybe join icecreamusume or make a new group.
considering shes leaving H!P completely i would say its her own choice. i mean shes one of the key players in H!P it would seem. also with her voice acting, doesnt she bring in some younger fans? why leave H!P completely unless she honestly wants to be a model.
although her and erika were both in zyx-a and have both decided to go into modeling. zyx was oridginally a 6 member group, while zyx-a was made as an 8 member group, but considering two have left i find that slightly suspicious.
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At least Erika's expressed she wanted to do modeling BEFORE. Koharu.. she never really even mentioned stuff like that. Ever.
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considering shes leaving H!P completely i would say its her own choice. i mean shes one of the key players in H!P it would seem. also with her voice acting, doesnt she bring in some younger fans? why leave H!P completely unless she honestly wants to be a model.
One word: PENIS.
Lol SERIOUSLY that's the only plausible reason I can think of.
If she's leaving UFA, she's erasing all the seniority pay she's got while working there, which is a bad move financially. If/when she joins another company, she'll have to start from scratch again.
She might have been unhappy with her cute image, because she's expressed that she likes the mature image more. But now that Kirari stuff is over, wouldn't that bring her the much needed change?
I still think it's weird to graduate H!P for "modelling". Why couldn't she do modelling while still in H!P? It's a fishy reason imo.
So I still say that the reason is PENIS!
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considering shes leaving H!P completely i would say its her own choice. i mean shes one of the key players in H!P it would seem. also with her voice acting, doesnt she bring in some younger fans? why leave H!P completely unless she honestly wants to be a model.
Is it possible that she would leave H!P but still be retained by UFA or one of their other groups like some of the elder club members? I mean she could still do the modeling thing but maybe show up every once in while when UFA needs a cash cow or a more popular person to boost sales or something.
Just throwing the idea out there.
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what. the. hell ? she's garduating now ? i dont really know what to say.. ( shocked)
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Not who I expected to graduate first! Kinda sad, but I hope this means new members are just around the corner.
Bring on the 9th generation!
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This is so unexpected and so sudden! I was really starting to warm up to the kid too! Such a shame. and it doesn't look like she's going to have a proper grad concert with the big arena! :cry:
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I am more shocked than anything else, this is really out of the blue and really curse of the one-member generations (I am just putting it out because of Goto Maki leaving at age seventeen to go solo) Is this a foreshadowing of the future 9th gen that many have talked about?
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Woooooooooooooooow.... saw everyone posting in this thread and thought it was false info and everyone was laughing at it... here I am going WTF?!?!?!?!
Koha grew on me sooo much, I hated her to start with but once that changed I saw just how much of a huge part of MM her personality was. I know this is usually said, but seriously, no one could fill the void that she'll be leaving... I may looove Sayu but if she were to grad that void could be filled, but Koha will be hard... I guess LinLin needs to step up that craziness even more.
This is gonna suck, especially seeing its one of the babies graduating, doesn't seem far :(
WTF is with all the grads, and they aren't just leaving their groups, leaving the whole H!P is scary!
BET YOU'RE REGRETTING GRADUATING THE ELDERS NOW WHEN YOU'LL HAVE NO ONE LEFT SOON!!!
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no!!! it can't be .. not koharu ...
:mon runcry:
*shocked*
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When I was new to MM/H!P, so was Koharu. She's the first member I followed from the start.. and I liked her from the very beginning. When she leaves MM better come up with some beyond awesome 9th gen members.
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One word: PENIS.
I agree with your theory 100% :rofl: Well good luck to you Koharu.
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What the fuck :/ I just started getting into koharu and now this? :banghead:
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As Koharu would say it: Yay! :k-thrilled:
I would find it strange if Koharu was taking the risk of leaving her current job without some certainty about her next job. Koharu has said she wants to be a model. Maybe she had an offer from a modeling agency, perhaps within UFG. For all we know the contract may already be signed.
Anyway, good luck to Koharu and her future! :cheers
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Koharu! :cry: I'll miss her insanity, but good luck with the future! At least she got a decent career while she was in H!P.
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OMG NO! I screamed when I saw this... T_T
The Miracle i've come to love.. fudge..... :cry:
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Shocking and sucky. It feels like every time I start liking someone the graduate.Yaguchi, Konno, Rika,Tsuji,. Oh well thats the way the group crumbles. This is like their smallest number over girls for how long now? it seems they just started getting popular again too. I guess that means it's audition time again huh Tsunku? I don't like it but maybe it's good that she is getting out while she's still young. She's not even 18 yet so if she has to start all over again at least she could get famous again the turn to acting ( like most models do) by the time she's 25. Still it's a sad cold day for fans who loved her and a happy one for those who hate her. I still can't believe that she is graduation before Sayumi, Reina & Eri. i thought they'd be out by now but maybe they feel like their too old to start over now or that beyond MM they have no career chances. ( which I hate to say is kinda true). I just hope that Ai & Risa don't see this as a turning point ( although we all no Ai has a great solo career ahead of her) I just can't take anymore Haropro babies. Anywho, Sayonaru Koharu! Best of Luck. :thumbsup
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Ahh interesting. I don't think i thought Koharu would leave but i totally had the feeling someone is leaving after this tour. I'm kind of glad i won't need to hear her voice again but some how i love the voice at the same time. Same with the whole Koharu. 8D She's super annoying but i love how energic she is. :) Awwwww i wanted to see her become 20 and be a MM senpai :( Koharu modleing..... Good luck! XD :D
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I haven't been this sad since Mari's scandal.
I was there for Koharu's very first tour and I can't believe it's already her last. I'm really thankful that I got to meet her before this, but I wish she would've stayed around longer. She's been growing into a beautiful, more mature young lady every year and I wish her the best of luck with whatever she decides to do. (I just hope she'll be around enough to still follow her.)
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Say again?
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:O
Very surprising.
I didn't expect it at all.
So long, Koha...
I'm glad of our little eye contact in Platinum Disco concert. :oops:
I wish you a penis happiness ! :lol:
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LOL. This is REALLY surprising. I never thought it'd be Koharu graduating so soon. I was afraid that maybe Takahashi, Gaki or Reina would be graduating but nooo. o.o
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She's been one of my faves recently :cry:
I'll miss her insane quirky-ness...
Good luck Koha :heart:
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this is wack man lol.
granted i dont like koharu that much but this is pretty extreme. too fast. going modelling is such a shitty excuse lol. u can still model while in MM --______--
PENIS
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Man, this weekend keeps getting better and better. :twothumbs
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And I asked myself today, when of the MM members, I don't like, going to be graduated... o.o
Well... I wish good luck for her future... but finally, I don't need to see her creepy teeth anymore! DX
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YES!!!
I don't like her at all. :grin: Glad it's not Risa or Ai...though they'll probably go soon too.
Koharu probably has a boyfriend.
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OH WTF.
This is shitty. There goes half of Momusu's personality alone.
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This is like the worst news ever. In a way I kinda wanna quit right along with her. Koharu was the whole reason I found out about H!P. She has always been one of my absolute favorites. I wanted to be able to meet her at least one time before she graduated.
I will keep supporting though (because of Ai Eri and Reina) but I'm seriously about to cry now.
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Wow I don't even really know what to say to this. I wasn't really a fan of the Kirarin but I really liked her in MM. There are so many things going through my head right now but DAAAAAAAAMN. Good luck to her I guess. If her "modelling career" doesn't pan out soon after this, I guess everyone's suspicions will be confirmed. And I will be pissed cuz Koharu Nikki was pretty awesome.
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This hit me like a slap in the face....I sleep for 5 hours and this happens....holy shit....
I'm no huge fan of Koharu's voice....but I will miss her - especially her antics (I just saw TFP2....)
"shock" is what I feel now.
Edit: This reminds me a lot of what happened with the last one person generation.
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lajon & wotachan: RUDE >:|
This is a sad moment to many, which makes it one of those "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" times...
>:|
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*Sigh*
My favorite member, the reason how I discovered Morning Musume and then H!P.
I'll miss you.
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^^ It might be sad to some, its something I have waited for for some time now.
I might actually get interested in MM again if they manage to get back to the manpower days (and before) and have more upbeat songs
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I might actually get interested in MM again if they manage to get back to the manpower days (and before) and have more upbeat songs
...And that has WHAT to do with Koharu?? LOL
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This must've been a sudden decision on her part. UF still included her in the new 2010 calendar, unlike Erika.
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^^ Manpower was the last single before Koharu joined. They actually sang it on a stage on her school there when she was selected in that on/off/retry selection process of her.
Its the milstone for me where MM went downhill fast.
Manpower also had fun moments (remember the Ai-growl?)
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This is...I'm not sure how to react. I've got plenty to say, but none of it really captures how I feel about this, because even I'm not sure how I feel about this.
In hindsight, as close as all of the members seem today, Koharu did seem a bit more on her own, even more so than Reina, who could hang out with pretty much anybody in MM sans Lin without awkwardness. On the other hand, the Koharu-Chun fights were just about the only definite chemistry I saw from Koharu. With everyone else, there was a bit of an air of "And that was Koharu", before going to hang out with another member with better results. And most of her big moments with MM would be more about the group laughing at her(or putting her down) instead of with. You could feel the tangible gap in DVD Mag. 23, where Koharu's comments were all pretty introspective, the kind that you get from watching from outside, while the member's comments about her weren't all that personal either. What with more than half of the comments being nothing more than variations of "noisy", being everyone's verbal whipping post for the sake of mood can't have been that much fun.
And of course, even though she did a great job being the one on a permanent sugar high, most people knew her idol was Fujimoto, and that she stated that she wanted that kind of cool image. That side of her has been appearing in spurts now, having one of the best faces in Naichau, and in general being much more sedate in backstage footage. Niigaki mentioned that she never shows it if she's depressed, so maybe she's tired of having to be the mood-maker all of the time.
(Which is why I'm worried about Maeda, who's been displaying her own frustrations about being railroaded into uber-idolness)
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and then there were 8....
Lil Koha is graduating, how unexpected, how saddening, how... the emotions i feel right now about this is indescribable Koha was not my favorite and i joked about her odd sugar-rush behavior but thats what i liked most about her... she was koharu nothing more nothing less and she was awesome. I'm definitely going to miss her and wish her luck
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when I first started in H!P...I got started when she was was in the auditions..I didn't care much for her then, but now I do and it's just... :cry:
I'm sorry....
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I agree with Rayle on the lack of interactive chemistry Koharu seemed to have with the rest of MM from what little I've paid attention to her. I'm not a fan, but I'm not a hater either.
Heck, my 10 second interaction with her at AX had more chemistry in that she actually teased me, which is more than what I've seen her do with the other MM girls. [bgcolor=#000000]Reina was working on my autograph in her self-admittedly slow pace so seeing that Koha was on stand by, so I went ahead and gave her my pic to sign. Both of them finished at the same time and handed it to me in a comical moment and Koha immediately whipped hers back as if to hold it hostage. :) [/bgcolor]
While watching TFG2, I couldn't help but notice that she didn't interact as much with the other girls in a key moment. [bgcolor=#000000]Spoiler: I loved the entire Arcade 6 segment, from beginning to end since that's the stuff of legends, but I noticed in the celebration of Reina's dart throw that she didn't rush up with the other girls for a group hug. Even the pandas even celebrated with each other first while Koha just stood there and clapped. Junjun even pushed her forward towards the rest of the group to celebrate.[/bgcolor]
But during the show, I did think she was incredibly beautiful. I can see modeling being very viable. When it became public early on that she didn't want to be cutesy, I'm not surprise that when she reached an age of feeling like she could start making real career decisions, that the idol path may not be for her given what her MM/HP career has been like so far.
Saying that there's some sort of cover up for a scandal indicates that she wouldn't want to leave. While the possibility of a scandal is always there, I hardly picture her crying in a corner over this announcement.
So best of luck to her! :twothumbs
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Bummer. :/
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I don't think graduations surprise me anymore. This is the nature of Morning Musume, Hello! Project, the entertainment industry in general, and life itself. Everything that starts has to end, and the schedule is different for everybody. If no one left the group, where would we be now?
But that's not the reason I'm not surprised in this case.
Didn't Tsunku say some time ago that there wouldn't be more than 10 members in Morning Musume again?
Combine that statement with the 2010 auditions that he alluded to at AX, and this makes more sense.
If no one left, we'd have another ballooning in members, which if you remember 2003-2004, was a little unwieldy.
Is it sad? Sure. Graduating from high school is sad too, but ultimately everyone goes on to pursue bigger and better things.
So, assuming that the statements released are truthful, here is what I'm taking from this:
Things you should be glad about
-Koharu isn't leaving in disgrace. If you think about previous scandals, this could be a LOT worse.
-When she leaves, it seems likely that you will see her again in the future.
-She is supposedly leaving to pursue her own goals.
-If she does come back to sing, she'll be solo.
-There doesn't seem to be any news of her leaving UFA, just H!P. Her situation will be the same as all the Elder Club graduates. (Still keeps seniority and such)
-Even if she's leaving H!P, there has been precedent for members coming back. (Konno)
-If she chooses, this gives her room to change her image more to her liking. When members aren't free to do that, you've seen what can happen. (Kago)
-Morning Musume still goes on and will have room for more new members when auditions come up. (next year, if Tsunku at AX is to be believed)
-Other Morning Musume girls will have a chance to be part of the Takahashi/Tanaka/?? front girl trio. (Right now, this is looking like Eri to me.)
Things to be sad about
-You won't see her as often, if at all, at least in the short term.
-There is a risk that she'll drop out from show business and you won't see her at all.
-Morning Musume will be different. Not really something sad though, it's more of an inevitability. Though, I can see how this could be devastating if you're a fan of the girl and not of the group.
Admittedly, I'm having trouble thinking of things to be too sad about. I guess living with my own favorite member leaving H!P altogether for a period of time has given me that kind of perspective. I just can't make myself see this as a disaster, since it's happened so many times before and I can't remember any 100% negative results. I'd rather be glad for the girl I like making her own decisions about her future than be spiteful towards those who may not even have been involved. (UFA Management, Tsunku, boyfriend who may not exist) You see, I'm not just a Konno fan, I'm also a Rika fan, an Eri fan, a Junjun fan, and probably most importantly, a Morning Musume fan. If Konno were still in the group, I don't think my support for the others would have grown as it has.
Having seen what post-grad careers can be like, I guess I'm not too sad about graduations anymore. These girls have a habit of sticking around and sticking together. With few exceptions, the things that they say they will pursue after graduation have been truthful and what they actually go on to pursue.
If some random girl's career peaks at age 12 and then for the rest of her life her career didn't go anywhere, I'd frankly be a little sad for her. Boys and girls be ambitious! Be happy that Koharu at least seems to have career goals to head toward. I know I am, and frankly thinking otherwise seems to me just a little bit selfish.
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THIS IS A SHOCK! I have just open up to her, too. Was never really a fan... though always thought she is cute and pretty. I had just begin to like her after seeing her @ AX. I think I'm gonna miss her. though being a model probably suits her, she quite tall for her age, certainly among the MoMusu members, and is quite beautiful. She definitely has the looks. GANBARE-YO, KOHARU!
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Whoa.
Modeling? Yeah right. This is just too sudden, I think there must be something behind it, not just that "Oh, I wanna model now".
Maybe it's like the rumour about Konno's & Makoto's grads...
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Well, I never liked her that much, but she's been part of the band for so long, so I'm kinda used to having her around... :)
This is so sudden, and my very first thought was a boyfriend. Just as shirenu. :roll:
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i admit i haven't been keeping up with the group lately, but this is a shock to me too, mainly because i remember when she joined. i remember defender her against the haters. oh well, i wish her the best :heart:
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I don't know if I agree with the whole scandal theory. I mean it's a possibility but I think that mostly they have just had the same members for too long and they need to graduate someone and she's the easiest person. The only thing is the fast timing is suspicious.
Koharu and the 8th gen are the most disposable in the group and it would be too suspicious to get rid of anyone in 8th gen since they were the last people to join. Ai's been there forever but the group dynamics would change too much if they tried to get rid of her before they even added new members. Risa could go but without Risa Ai probably wouldn't stick around too long since Risa is one of the only people in the group that gets Ai and she helps her a lot as subleader. Tsunku is really impressed with Eri lately so he's not likely to let her go. Reina's situation is pretty much the same as Ai's. He's unlikely to let her go until more girls have been added and things have calmed down. Sayumi is bringing in way too much popularity to get rid of her. With all the shows she's been on lately she's giving the group great publicity. That leaves Koharu. Out of all the girls Koharu is the most outcasted. It probably has to do with the fact that she had to spend so much time on her own doing Kirarin Revolution. Now that the show is over it kind of seems like Koharu is wondering around without a purpose. The show started not long after she joined so that was pretty much her whole identity. Now that it's over she kind of has to reinvent herself so she might as well be the person graduated.
This is of course all just my theory. I will miss Koharu greatly as she is definitely one of favorite member but hopefully she will be happy. She would make a great model if she does decide to pursue that career.
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Although I haven't followed H!P at all in years, I too found this quite surprising. Not that she's graduating, but the sudden-ness of it.
I'm inclined to think suspiciously like Shirenu that this may be penile work... XD Avoiding the scandal before it comes... It coouuuld be just for modeling, but then why so sudden? and why fully leave H!P? O_o
I don't see why she couldn't model more while still being on the agency. I don't really know how these things work, but I'd think UFA could've gotten her more modeling jobs so that she could start building her image and skills as a model, and then eventually she'd be able to stand on her own with that established modeling career. It just seems weird for her to just drop everything and jump into a new career without a more gradual transition. Although i guess the girls already do quite some modeling with all the PB's and official UFA pics, but it depends on what kind of model she's gonna aim to be. At least she's cute and pretty compared to many models i see on jap magazines.
Another thing that makes me suspicious is, is the H!P administration really THAAAT understanding and sweet and good that just because she wants to do modeling they let her graduate so suddenly? Don't these girls have contracts? Doesn't Koharu have enough of a big fanbase for her leaving to make them lose some money? I honesly don't have a clue to the answers of these questions. But I find it extremely weird that the girls could just go to the agency and say "hey, now i feel like pursuing a different direction by myself" and they'd go "oh, ok, let's have you graduate then so that you can fulfill your dreams!". Come on... I bet a couple of previous members would've left before their designated graduation times if it was that simple...
Oh well, much success to her. I didn't care about H!P anymore anyway, but even then can't deny that it's surprising.
Maybe it's like the rumour about Konno's & Makoto's grads...
What's that rumor? =O
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I felt pretty :shocked: when I saw this...I still remember when she joined and I didn't think she would be graduating so soon D: orz
My thoughts on the reasons for this: In Tsunku's statement he said Koharu would be getting private lessons. I don't think that she would be doing those lessons if this was because of a scandal, and while she'll leave H!P it doesn't seem like she's leaving UFA altogether. Plus there's been no rumors of any scandal with her.
I'm thinking it's more like what Slack said, Tsunku wants to have 9th gen auditions next year, but doesn't want more than 10 people in the group so he decided to graduate someone, and seeing how Koharu was pretty successful as a solo singer with Kirarin Revolution and all that, decided that she would be a good choice to graduate and have her develop her own solo career not attached to KR (Koharu herself might also have had some input in this decision).
Though it still feels so sudden, like with any graduation I wish Koha the best. She wasn't my favorite but I didn't hate her like so many people did. And I did enjoy some of her songs, particularly Balalaika. I hope those lessons pay off and she'll be able to further her career whether as a model, a singer or both.
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I just listened to the leaked nine smiles concert thing. Koharu doesnt sound too sad about leaving lol.
i think shes just not as close to the other members. personality clash? prolly
no ones high 5ing her :lol:
(http://aewen.com/momusu/kamei/img/aewen1806.gif)
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It does seem kinda sudden, they're keeping her in the calendar but taking her out of 2010 winter concert. Right?
It said that somewhere, right?
Though Koha's not my favorite, this is still pretty sad. I just knew that this line up was coming to a close, but I still just couldn't fathom who would graduate. I was almost convinced Ai or Risa would be next.
If that happens, I think I'll be completely inconsolable.
But maybe there's more to this story than meets the eye?
Poor Koha, lol. Maybe it is personality clash. Reina said once that even though it was said they get along, that just means they get along now.
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hopefully she'll still perform on occasion with the OGs i think that might be a little odd though since shes younger then the current members and alot younger then the OG's. now only two members are younger then 20. i have a feeling that theres more grads right around the corner. after all only three members have stayed past age 23 minus nakazawa
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(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8849/gallery3744752.jpg)
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i think that picture honestly just made my day.
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I definitely feel a little bit better about this news when you put it like that. :lol:
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:( :cry: No. kusumi san! :( I have to say at least i got to see her in person once before this happened :(
she is like one of my most favorite members.
Ganbatte Koha!
I will continue to support her no matter what she does! just like yossi, just like yaguchi, just like aibon!
DON'T STAY AWAY FROM US TO LONG YOU GOOFY FEMALE!
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:dizzy: SHOCKER!!! But seeing with all her solo shit and "voice" acting, the writing seemed to be on the wall but STILL WTF!!
Maybe she'll go acting with Meryl Streep!
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no ones high 5ing her :lol:
(http://aewen.com/momusu/kamei/img/aewen1806.gif)
Aww that's a bit sad lol
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Maybe she's just tired of public life, like dozens of idols before her. Become a regular hick girl again and not a target.
It's harder than you realize.
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no ones high 5ing her :lol:
(http://aewen.com/momusu/kamei/img/aewen1806.gif)
:lol:
Koharu has always had a strong personality, and it was said she wouldn't get along with many members. I'm surprised she hasn't left before, actually. With Kirari success, you'd guess that's when she would have become a soloist. Yet no.
I'm find humiliating when Tsunku says "she could become a singer but..er...not now. she needs private training" XD and then the whole model thing sounds like a recycled Erika excuse. Like shirenu put it out: PENIS. XD
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Maybe she's just tired of public life, like dozens of idols before her. Become a regular hick girl again and not a target.
It's harder than you realize.
She was too traumatized by the appearance where that American rocker groped her the whole time. XD "Nuh uh... don't wanna be a celebrity any more..."
Anyway, as I found out about this before I went to bed last night and discussed it with a few people then, it's had a bit of time to sink in. Honestly? Somehow I don't care. My best memories with Koharu were always related to Kirari - Balalaika, Happy Happy Sunday!, Kira*Pika/Milky Way etc. I guess it just never felt like she really fit with Morning Musume. During Kirari it was that voice they made her have. Recently she'd seemed to be developing something else, but as others have said, she still seemed a bit separate. She was just the lonely nanaki member. Ai is leader, and has her Gaki subleader and gokkie compadre. KameShige have always been best friends, and although Reina was her own lone yankii, she still had her rokkie mates. Of course the others have their hachiki community, and are still also developing their images.
Somehow I always thought Koharu would be next, since at this point I really didn't see how it could be Ai-chan, much less any of the others.
As to reasons... It seems to me from the comments that they're just mentioning modeling as something Koharu's wanted to do, but almost as if they just mention it to be able to give some indication of what she might do from now on. It sounded to me that it was more a case of "finding what fits her best". It doesn't sound like she really graduated to specifically do something else. And she's still young, so has time to figure out what that might be.
What was the real reason for the sudden decision for her to leave? We might never know for sure, but it seems apparent there's something behind it. And even though I'm not surprised, I liked Koharu well enough as I mentioned for example her Kirari days, and hope she finds happiness in whatever she does. It's been a while, but graduations I've learned long ago are a way of life as an H!P fan. I feel sorry for all of you who have only come to be fans in the last 2 or 3 years and may not have experienced one yet. :(
So I guess we're getting set up for a kyuuki audition as usual once winter arrives? Timing is definitely appropriate for that. I'm curious to see how they'll promote it.
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Wow, interesting news to find out when I got home. o_O
Really out of the blue, but okay. Good luck to her, though!
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Actually, she's leaving for some MORE steel panther loving...
(http://homepage.mac.com/okamisama/.Pictures/kohapanther.jpeg)
... and eri is next...
(http://homepage.mac.com/okamisama/.Pictures/eripanther.jpeg)
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hahaha. You just know Steel Panther totally have wanted to get to know the girls that little bit better backstage, I can see it in their eyes in those pics alone! Oh man, did nobody read up about them before they put them next to the girls? :lol:
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Wow, I was pretty shocked when I saw this this morning. Koharu was NOT who I expected to graduate next, let alone anytime soon. To me, she's a true idol, not the best singer...but the personality of an idol. I guess Kirarin Revolution helped in forming that opinion. :lol:
But yeah, best of luck to Koha! Hope to see her in some magazines in the future~ :heart:
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My friend told me the news while we were standing at the statue of Samuel de Champlain overlooking Parliament and the border with Quebec. That spot just got a whole new meaning for me. ;_; Oh, Koharu-chan. I supported you from the day I saw you at those auditions. I knew you'd do grand things in MM. I wish you luck. :heart: :heart: :heart:
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Hope to see Koharu hanging out with MoMusu/H!P/UFA members in the future, onstage and offstage. I would love to see that. Like having Sayu or any of the members appearing on a show with Koharu, they chat and goof around on screen, that would be cool...
*sigh* when I woke up today, the first thing I always do is check the latest news and torrents on H!O and JPH!P. reading this news had a bit shock on me and it's been on my mind all day long, makes me have no energy to do anything... weird thing is, I wasn't a huge Koharu fan in the first place. Sure she's cute and pretty, energetic and happy, that's a big +, but I always see her a bit annoying. but now that I know she won't be part of MoMusu or H!P in December, I felt sad. Whether I'm unconsciously a Koharu fan or just because I don't want her to leave MoMusu yet, it left a big impact on me I guess. It just won't be the same...
As a MoMusu fan and know about it's history and customs, I thought I was prepared for moments like this. but I guess it's still affect me...
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:stunned: Did not see that coming...
And I just had a good day after randomly finding GAM's album at BOOKOFF in Manhattan. I'll always remember that one moment at the AX concert where you're just staring out into the crowd and then you looked at my section, I waved at you and you waved back with that goofy smile on your face.... :cry: I regret that I haven't been a real fan of yours until that concert and I should've been from when you first joined 4 years ago. Well, maybe I was slowly becoming a fan due to Kirarin Revolution. Anyway, I wish you the best of luck and hope you do more great things in the future.
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WHOA BREAKING NEWS... i actually tought about ther leaving morning musume to start a solo act but leaving the whole project!!! O_O i really don't mind about her leaving beacuse is what she wants (i´ll believe that anyways) but that sucks for the group... and seriously what's with this i want to start modeling thing?? >:| imo in the end she will be an idol anyways but just outside h!P (maybe like aibon)
ps: i'm very sorry for the koharu fans... HEY WAIT her last PB still going right?
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Maybe it's like the rumour about Konno's & Makoto's grads...
What's that rumor? =O
Well, someone said that they were caught out drinking with some Johnny Jrs and, at that time, they were still underage? So they decided to keep it quiet and just graduate them. Just a rumour anyway. :-\
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Maybe it's like the rumour about Konno's & Makoto's grads...
What's that rumor? =O
Well, someone said that they were caught out drinking with some Johnny Jrs and, at that time, they were still underage? So they decided to keep it quiet and just graduate them. Just a rumour anyway. :-\
Ohhhh I didn't know that =O Too bad we may never know the truth of what goes on behind closed doors in H!P. Or maybe it's better that way for the girls, considering how crazy some fans can get.
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When I first heard about this I was thinking BULLSHIT. But it's fucking true & I don't like it but I'll accept it. :(
Even though I didn't exactly like her singing voice all that much she won me over with her bubbly personality (& the fact that she got hotter as she got older); which made her one of my favorites in MM & all of H!P. I actually ended up liking her singing eventually later on in her career.
Still, what the fuck? :angry: But good luck to her with the whole modeling thing, I think she'll do well. All I ask of her is to...
do something with Mano Erina and maybe reform Milky Way. Without Biyuuden I NEED A NEW CUTE GROUP DAMNIT! Mature sound or not I NEED A NEW GROUP! :grin:
As I said on the IRC:
I have to admit i saw this coming after mention of and while actually at AX.... but not with Koha!.... NOT THIS YEAR! :O
Eri maybe..... :P .... But either way, just because I half expected it, doesn't mean I wanted it! :cry:
So now that Koha is graduatin how long till she starts grabbing her tits 5 times per second and shaking her ass :shakeit: next to raji the gut (bigga raji) like the other solo (3rd) generation star (FAP/FANTASTIC) MAKI GOTO? :fap
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If I see one more person posting that they're happy to see Koharu leave I won't hesitate to delete your post.
What if YOUR favourite member up and left H!P all-together too? Would you mind if I went all "YAY OMG! I hated that bitch so much, glad to see she's gone now"
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Koharu's graduation is covered by the usual entertainment news sites.
Here are links to some of them:
モーニング娘。「久住小春」に関する大事なお知らせ
http://www.helloproject.com/news/0909199997_kusumi.html (http://www.helloproject.com/news/0909199997_kusumi.html)
久住小春、モーニング娘。とハロプロ卒業へ
http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/confidence/69284/full/ (http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/confidence/69284/full/)
モーニング娘。卒業決定 久住小春＆つんく♂コメント全文
http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/confidence/69285/full/ (http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/confidence/69285/full/)
モー娘。：久住小春、１２月のコンサートで卒業 「モデルに挑戦したい」
http://mainichi.jp/enta/geinou/news/20090919mog00m200031000c.html (http://mainichi.jp/enta/geinou/news/20090919mog00m200031000c.html)
久住小春がモーニング娘。およびハロー！プロジェクトから卒業を発表
http://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000053266 (http://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000053266)
久住小春、現ツアーを持ってモー娘。＆ハロプロ卒業
http://natalie.mu/news/show/id/21451 (http://natalie.mu/news/show/id/21451)
久住小春、１２月でモーニング娘。を卒業
http://www.sanspo.com/geino/news/090919/gnj0909191906015-n1.htm (http://www.sanspo.com/geino/news/090919/gnj0909191906015-n1.htm)
久住小春「モーニング娘。」卒業！今後は…
http://www.sponichi.co.jp/entertainment/flash/KFullFlash20090919098.html (http://www.sponichi.co.jp/entertainment/flash/KFullFlash20090919098.html)
久住小春「モー娘。」卒業
http://hochi.yomiuri.co.jp/entertainment/news/20090920-OHT1T00076.htm (http://hochi.yomiuri.co.jp/entertainment/news/20090920-OHT1T00076.htm)
久住小春がモー娘卒業“いろいろ挑戦したい”
http://www.sponichi.co.jp/entertainment/news/2009/09/20/05.html (http://www.sponichi.co.jp/entertainment/news/2009/09/20/05.html)
久住小春 ツアー最終公演でモー娘。卒業
http://www.daily.co.jp/gossip/article/2009/09/20/0002365239.shtml (http://www.daily.co.jp/gossip/article/2009/09/20/0002365239.shtml)
久住小春 モー娘。卒業 「今後はモデルに挑戦したい」
http://www.chunichi.co.jp/chuspo/article/entertainment/news/CK2009092002000134.html (http://www.chunichi.co.jp/chuspo/article/entertainment/news/CK2009092002000134.html)
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I first saw the news about this yesterday morning, however this weekend has kept me occupied and I've not been able to really think or comment on it until now.
One thing in particular that I noticed, I first started getting into MM/H!P just after the 6th Gen had joined. Koharu was the first MM member/generation that I've seen completely from the beginning with the audition process, and once she graduates, she'll be the first member for whom I've seen their entire tenure in MM. While she was never my absolute fave, I still liked her and found her entertaining. She was fun to watch and you could tell (in her own spazzy own way) that she genuinely enjoyed being in the group.
As far as her graduating goes, granted we all know that it is something that's bound to happen when you get into this fandom, so on that note alone, it's not really surprising. We all knew that it would have happened sooner or later, and that the same will hold true for any/all of the other MM members. The surprising thing for me personally is the timing of it (namely, the fact that Koharu is still included in the upcoming 2010 MM Calendar leads to the belief that this decision was NOT something that was being considered until recently). Another thing was the translation of Tsunku's comments where he talks about her starting a solo career, but then needing more lessons first. This is definitely not the attitude that one would expect if you're planning on launching a soloist. If anything, one would expect UFG/UFA to have her doing the added lessons on the side, keep her working in MM as long as possible in order to "maximize her use" in the group, and then once she's deemed ready, to get her solo career going as quickly as possible so that again, they can start making money off of her as quickly as possible.
In the end, however, we'll likely never really know the real reason(s) why this happened now. For all we know, she really did want to get into modeling. For all we know, there could have been a sudden, recent, REALLY good offer for a modeling contract for her and Koharu & UF* had to make this decision really quickly. It might be something similar to the rumoured reasons for Konkon and Mako's graduations, or it might be that shi's hit the nail on the head with her theory. Bottom line, right now we don't know, and chances are we won't ever really know. As fans, we still have to deal with it. Personally, yeah I'm bummed. Like her or hate her, one couldn't deny that Koharu brought a unique flair to MM. No one in MM could freak out about eating a Chinese dessert of candied frog or squeal in pain at getting her cheeks pinched quite like her. Whatever road she ends up having to take after that last concert, I hope for the best for her.
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Tsunku has blogged about graduating Koharu. He apologizes for the sudden announcement and he also says Koharu was puzzled or something like that. But I'm not exactly sure about the translation. :sweatdrop:
http://ameblo.jp/tsunku-blog/entry-10347397099.html (http://ameblo.jp/tsunku-blog/entry-10347397099.html)
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Interesting. I guess that kind of confirms that it wasn't Koharu's decision to leave then...
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I wonder what he means by sudden, cuz isn't that how all graduation annoucements come about? Or maybe cuz they didn't allude to it? hmm, I don't know.
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What if YOUR favourite member up and left H!P all-together too? Would you mind if I went all "YAY OMG! I hated that bitch so much, glad to see she's gone now"
I don't want to add more fire to the flames, but I wouldn't mind at all. Hearing opinions opposite my own, even about someone I'm a huge fan of, wouldn't do a thing to me, and it definitely wouldn't make me want their opinions censored either.
WTB a H!P Uncensored discussion forum :lol:
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Does anyone know what Kaorin and Makochan said about Koharu in their blogs?
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I think everyone expected a graduation soon, the the current line-up staying so long. Just unsure of which member first.
it's still sad.
yeah, those announcements are getting weird. but I'd rather hear more facts on it than presumptions for a news thread.
I think Koharu had a great 4 years in Morning Musume, and left us fans with a lot of great memories.
Koha was never my #1 fave, but I've never been annoyed by her super-sugar-hyped-up personality on screen. and find her one of the most lovable in the group.
Hope she gets into some variety stuff, like all the other OG girls are doing lately.
Just don't go marrying comedians (comedians are evil... :smhid) j/k
And wish her the best~ :wub:
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What if YOUR favourite member up and left H!P all-together too? Would you mind if I went all "YAY OMG! I hated that bitch so much, glad to see she's gone now"
I don't want to add more fire to the flames, but I wouldn't mind at all. Hearing opinions opposite my own, even about someone I'm a huge fan of, wouldn't do a thing to me, and it definitely wouldn't make me want their opinions censored either.
WTB a H!P Uncensored discussion forum :lol:
There's a difference between expressing a contrasting opinion in an educated and polite manner, and rubbing it in people's face like an idiot.
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Tsunku has blogged about graduating Koharu. He apologizes for the sudden announcement and he also says Koharu was puzzled or something like that. But I'm not exactly sure about the translation. :sweatdrop:
http://ameblo.jp/tsunku-blog/entry-10347397099.html (http://ameblo.jp/tsunku-blog/entry-10347397099.html)
Ehh?? That almost sounds like an incident of when Miki was put into Morning Musume. o_o
"It's for your own good, seriously... well, jk, but you gotta deal with it"
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Looks like they got the budget reports from their overseas exploits, NO PROFIT fire someone! :lol:
True, Kristen. I didn't see em much but at AX she was quite the goof, even her ribbon slipped off her head during the performance.
Whoa.
Modeling? Yeah right.
Well, she looks kinda like Ayaka Komatsu and Shoko Hamada. You never know!
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^ yeah and It's not saying that she's leaving so she can model it's more like since she has to leave she'd like to try modeling.
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I kind of expected that it was his decision. I wonder if it's always been Tsunku's plan to make Koharu a solo idol after a little time in MoMusu...having her be the lead in Kirarin*Revolution and doing solo activities as her character may have been his idea of preparation for a solo career under her own name.
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Definitely a surprise to me. I have to agree with Koha the MM mature angle is alot better, give the cute image to the Berryz. Good luck to her, and maybe they'll audition a newer older member.
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What if YOUR favourite member up and left H!P all-together too? Would you mind if I went all "YAY OMG! I hated that bitch so much, glad to see she's gone now"
I don't want to add more fire to the flames, but I wouldn't mind at all. Hearing opinions opposite my own, even about someone I'm a huge fan of, wouldn't do a thing to me, and it definitely wouldn't make me want their opinions censored either.
WTB a H!P Uncensored discussion forum :lol:
There's a difference between expressing a contrasting opinion in an educated and polite manner, and rubbing it in people's face like an idiot.
Before this current revision of the forums, I thought the H!P Crapola forum was the "uncensored" discussion forum.
It's sad that Koha is leaving. I liked her a lot. I think she was near or at the top 3 of MM members but the news didn't hit me as hard as I thought it would. Best wishes to Koha and looking forward to her modeling career along with Erika.
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Initially I totally had a WTF?! reaction Koha to graduating, especially since I've really begun to like her recently, but thinking about it in retrospect, she was the member I predicted would mostly go first. Even so, the announcement seems rather fishy with the suddenness of it all, and speculation about a boyfriend seems plausible.
I suspect Koha graduating also means the coming of the 9th gen, which should (hopefully) be interesting.
Nonetheless, the best of luck to one of a kind miracle girl. I hope she continues being cracktastic and hilariously entertaining.
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Before this current revision of the forums, I thought the H!P Crapola forum was the "uncensored" discussion forum.
Really? lol
For as long as I remember it's been encouraged to post the more negative, hateful, etc. posts to this thread: http://forum.jphip.com/index.php?topic=11202.0 (http://forum.jphip.com/index.php?topic=11202.0) and spare other places from the wah wah spiteful words of hatedom.
Anyway there's no such thing as uncensored. You have to take others into account always, and that's already censoring yourself. THX FOR THE COOPERATION!
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Before this current revision of the forums, I thought the H!P Crapola forum was the "uncensored" discussion forum.
Really? lol
For as long as I remember it's been encouraged to post the more negative, hateful, etc. posts to this thread: http://forum.jphip.com/index.php?topic=11202.0 (http://forum.jphip.com/index.php?topic=11202.0) and spare other places from the wah wah spiteful words of hatedom.
Anyway there's no such thing as uncensored. You have to take others into account always, and that's already censoring yourself. THX FOR THE COOPERATION!
Damn. I tried looking for that thread before posting here, cause I knew it existed and just didn't know the name of it. Someone should really drop a sticky on it, cause from the looks of it I'm not the only one who's forgotten about/couldn't find it since there hasn't been a post there in almost a year. :bow:
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ugg cant believe shes the one graduation =\ Is any one planning on going to the last concert? or is there a thread about that some where
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You know how the graduating member sings a solo at the last concert. I think Koharu should sing "I miss you" from her Mitsuboshi album. I've always wanted to see her perform that or "Hoshi no Shizuku." I doubt it will happen though.
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ugg cant believe shes the one graduation =\ Is any one planning on going to the last concert? or is there a thread about that some where
heya AP, winner said he's planning to go to koharu's graduation but nothing solid yet. maybe u can shoot him a pm or something
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Koharu has never, ever been high on my list of favourite members...until about two months ago. And now this! :OMG:
I'm actually incredibly sad to see her go; despite her "interesting" (and I am being very nice in that choice of word...) voice, she was a real asset to MM. For me, she really was everything that an idol should strive to be - peppy, cute (bordering on annoying, but never managing to cross over into annoying), easily excitable and a bit of a ditz. To the cameras at least. If she'd dropped the Kirarin voice in lives, she would have been easily one of my favourite members.
With her work on Kirarin, she brought in a lot of new fans to MM, and I'll miss her presence in the group sorely.
But my ears may not. :on freeze:
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How 'bout bringin' back some classic Koha-caps?
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5802/koharugreatness.jpg)
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6760/koharuhellzya.jpg)
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1699/koharumillion.jpg)
:lol:
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At the risk of sounding like a hater (and I assure I am not, just check out my Koharu GOTW post), this graduation concert has tohe potential to be crying-free. Tears, maybe, but I really don't see real emotion blubbering going on at all.
Think about it. The most emotional grads were always ones for the elders, with at least 2-3 younger generations (and in Iida's case, 5 o_0) to have history with. Even Maki's had a fresh-faced 5th gen to work with.
5 and 6 gen have waaay too much history with each other pre-7th gen, and we've already gone over the general lack of chemistry with Koharu anyway. But more importantly, check out 8th gen, who have the burden of throwing out the "Oh senpai you taught me many things I'll never forget baaww" messages this time around. You have Mitsui, who has a more mature image already, and...yeah I don't see breakdown happening. Jun might cry because that's her thing, but on the other hand her thing with Koharu was arguing. :lol: Not to mention she's older, so she'll probably have a nice message but be kind of embarrassed about it at the same time. And I've never seen Lin cry. I can't even imagine it o_0.
So yeah, I think this graduation concert is going to be kind of weird. :-\
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^ If anything, I predict some girls like Kamei to at least shed a few tears because she's close to Koharu. I mean, they are FRIENDS. All of them are, essentially. I'd get emotional too if a close friend and I wouldn't see each other much anymore.
How 'bout bringin' back some classic Koha-caps?
Snap, didn't I make the first and the last one? XD
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^ If anything, I predict some girls like Kamei to at least shed a few tears because she's close to Koharu. I mean, they are FRIENDS. All of them are, essentially. I'd get emotional too if a close friend and I wouldn't see each other much anymore.
I can easily see Junjun crying. It's been said in previous interviews by the other members themselves that she cries pretty easily.
How 'bout bringin' back some classic Koha-caps?
Snap, didn't I make the first and the last one? XD
Wouldn't surprise me. XD
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I did! I just found them now in my backup HD :lol:
(http://i34.tinypic.com/287eqgm.jpg)
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if she graduate, that means that she won't be appearing in oha star anymore?
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Nice little tribute!
久住小春 [ OPV ] Chapter Seven, Kiseki - Kusumi Koharu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A11PzP19sV8#normal)
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if she graduate, that means that she won't be appearing in oha star anymore?
no, she announced on the show that she will continue to be on OhaStar
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Just fyi, I like Ogawa, so no offense meant to fans and stuff XD
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2mm9v7a.jpg)
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^ I think that could be turned into another Kanye meme. :lol: But I guess there are already enough (too many?) Kanye ones out there :3
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How long till their next Morning Musume auditions? They should get more members to mix things up.
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^I think Tsunku has said that we can expect an audition in 2010. But who knows really?
I wonder if there's going to be any audition videos next time since Haromoni no longer exists :/