Ok, Shirenu, I'll remember that next time I'm with my family at the beach and we're taking pics of my nieces in their new bikinis. You say this pics are made for the pervs, okay, I'll give you that. What I was saying is that if you feel uncomfortable looking at them it is because you see them in a sexual context. I can see a bikini shot of anybody and just think of how good or bad she looks, or how the light used is right, but maybe because I come from a tropical country where bikinis are seen everyday, even in the streets and in shopping malls, I see nothing wrong with them. I think Reina's pink baby-doll in Shoujo R is pervier. And I was also saying that if you don't want to buy it because YOU don't want to, that's okay, but not buying something you like just because of what others may think, well, I'm turning 40 this month, and I already had a close call with death, so if I like something I buy it, and other people can think of it whatever they like, I buy things for ME, not for them.