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Re: US Elections 2008
« Reply #80 on: August 31, 2008, 06:51:28 AM »
Find it weird that someone can be both "pro-life" and "pro-guns"..
Pretty much all politicians are hypocrites, and just saying what people want to hear when they have to. If they were to just go one way no one of the other party will bother with them when election time comes along.


Obama's campaign is really pretty much built on hope, hope for all the people out there with little or no voice in politics. I think McCain is better qualified to be in office. But really, I don't give a crap. Sometimes you have to takes risks to get something done, and I think Obama can make change. Even if it's just because he's "Black." Because of him people who had no interest in politics are now paying attention. And if he wins I could only see that hope expanding. I really don't see how he can really make much change on how America works, but it's possible for him to change how Americans think.

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Re: US Elections 2008
« Reply #81 on: August 31, 2008, 04:36:56 PM »
People should remember the president is just a figurehead, he is still limited by what Congress, the Supreme Court and the individual states can do.  I think it is difficult for some foreigners to comprehend the  2 level government the US has.

For Example, Pres. Bush could not stop the execution of a convicted rapist/murderer who was an illegal immigrant.  He could only ask that the Texas State Supreme Court to intervene, as to keep good relations with Mexico.  The State of Texas ignored him and executed him anyway.

The main problems with both political parties is that they both cater to the extreme left and rights.  The people with money that can influence politics are usually on those 2 ends.  And yes, most if not all politicians are hypocrites.

It is easily possible for a person to fall into the pro-life, pro-gun side.  Pro-life= anti-abortion, and the idea behind the second amendment will always be debated.  In terms of gun control, I have no problems with a standard hunting rifle or handgun, but no everyday person needs an Automatic/assault rifle.

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« Reply #82 on: September 02, 2008, 08:04:34 AM »
Mccain is trying to get the focus off one of the most historic conventions in U.S. history. It's evident that the only reason he chose Sarah Palin is to go after the Bitter Hilary supporters, especially after Sarah Palin praised Hilary. But Doesn't picking Sarah Palin contradict Mccain's message of a candidate needing experience?

Palin was a really effective governor too - and she actually knows how to send email...

Honestly I wish she was on the top of the ticket, then I wouldn't feel like I'm picking between two candidates neither of whom I like. (OK, after further research, I don't like her either - she's wacko far-right on a lot of issues.)

... they're not making this easy. Since my vote doesn't matter (New York votes Democrat no matter what), I might just write-in someone who I think could do the job better anyway.
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« Reply #83 on: September 02, 2008, 11:05:50 PM »
everyone should just vote green! we need more representatives that aren't democrat or republican. :P

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Re: US Elections 2008
« Reply #84 on: September 03, 2008, 05:57:38 AM »
Palin's pregnant daughter is hot!!!

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Re: US Elections 2008
« Reply #85 on: September 05, 2008, 03:52:08 AM »
Everyone can write in Ron Paul.  Do what you whatever the hell you want it is a free country.

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Re: US Elections 2008
« Reply #86 on: September 15, 2008, 07:12:43 PM »
Oh my. XD


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« Reply #87 on: September 16, 2008, 12:47:31 AM »
to be perfectly honest..this country is going to be screwed up regardless..

i sometimes question this country and my belief in it

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Re: US Elections 2008
« Reply #88 on: September 16, 2008, 12:57:36 AM »
Oh my. XD

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Re: US Elections 2008
« Reply #89 on: September 27, 2008, 03:23:33 AM »
Debate is on now. Join the discussion on IRC. XD

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« Reply #90 on: September 27, 2008, 05:53:59 AM »
I wanna see the Vice Presidential debate. There will be a clear winner in that one. Obama 08!

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Re: US Elections 2008
« Reply #92 on: September 30, 2008, 02:02:19 PM »
With Congress failing to pass the Bail out bill, the Republicans have just lost the election, by proxy.

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Re: US Elections 2008
« Reply #93 on: October 02, 2008, 10:47:54 PM »
Even the Finnish National Broadcaster is showing the vice presidential debate live on their internet site. I'd like to watch it but maybe I'd take all night... Not that I had anything important to do tomorrow anyway.
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« Reply #94 on: October 02, 2008, 11:23:56 PM »
Meh. I'll probably skip it and the Canadian debate. I'm sure I'll hear if anything interesting happens.

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Re: US Elections 2008
« Reply #95 on: October 03, 2008, 05:49:50 AM »
From Factcheck.org, regarding the current mortgage mess-

The Real Deal


So who is to blame? There's plenty of blame to go around, and it doesn't fasten only on one party or even mainly on what Washington did or didn't do. As The Economist magazine noted recently, the problem is one of "layered irresponsibility ... with hard-working homeowners and billionaire villains each playing a role." Here's a partial list of those alleged to be at fault:

The Federal Reserve, which slashed interest rates after the dot-com bubble burst, making credit cheap.


Home buyers, who took advantage of easy credit to bid up the prices of homes excessively.


Congress, which continues to support a mortgage tax deduction that gives consumers a tax incentive to buy more expensive houses.


Real estate agents, most of whom work for the sellers rather than the buyers and who earned higher commissions from selling more expensive homes.


The Clinton administration, which pushed for less stringent credit and downpayment requirements for working- and middle-class families.


Mortgage brokers, who offered less-credit-worthy home buyers subprime, adjustable rate loans with low initial payments, but exploding interest rates.


Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan, who in 2004, near the peak of the housing bubble, encouraged Americans to take out adjustable rate mortgages.


Wall Street firms, who paid too little attention to the quality of the risky loans that they bundled into Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS), and issued bonds using those securities as collateral.


The Bush administration, which failed to provide needed government oversight of the increasingly dicey mortgage-backed securities market.


An obscure accounting rule called mark-to-market, which can have the paradoxical result of making assets be worth less on paper than they are in reality during times of panic.


Collective delusion, or a belief on the part of all parties that home prices would keep rising forever, no matter how high or how fast they had already gone up.

The U.S. economy is enormously complicated. Screwing it up takes a great deal of cooperation. Claiming that a single piece of legislation was responsible for (or could have averted) is just political grandstanding. We have no advice to offer on how best to solve the financial crisis. But these sorts of partisan caricatures can only make the task more difficult.

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« Reply #96 on: October 04, 2008, 02:00:03 AM »
Oh my. XD

haha that's great. Apparently they got one too. I can see it now. 'Sarah Pole-in', who has to screw her way into the Vice-President's role and sleeps with Obama/Biden just for the hell of it. Final scene can be her screwing McCain who dies of a heart attack as a result and she becomes President.Can you tell I've been thinking about this for a while? XD

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« Reply #97 on: October 05, 2008, 06:19:57 PM »

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« Reply #98 on: October 05, 2008, 08:56:19 PM »
lol, " What would a maverick do in this situation?"

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Re: US Elections 2008
« Reply #99 on: October 05, 2008, 09:55:12 PM »
Quote
Hustler Video is shooting a porn with a look-alike, titled "Nailin' Paylin." The spelling is sic and so is Hustler.


The faux Sarah is Lisa Ann, who "will be nailing the Russians who come knocking on her back-door." In another scene -- a flashback -- "young Paylin's creationist college professor will explain a 'big bang' theory even she can't deny!"

There's also a threeway with Hillary and Condoleezza look-alikes. The video is in pre-production, but is being fast tracked for release before the election.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/03/nailin-paylin-hustlers-pa_n_131581.html

Damn, the title and content is much better than I could have ever come up with XD

On a serious note, I don't know how anyone in the Republican camp could think that Palin claiming that Obama has terrorist claims could be a good idea.

Especially when she has links to an Alaskan First fringe group seeking seccession from the US!

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