Official Wrestling Thread "Finally ... a wrestling thread HAS COME BACK TO JPH!P!!!"

[Kenji]

Man, what an awesome RAW! Probably my favorite RAW in quite awhile. Kurt Angle getting drafted over to RAW definitely took me by surprise. I hope they'll be able to drop Angle's horrible "pervert" gimmick. It's nice to see Angle and Triple H feuding again. Angle's comment about Stephanie= PWNAGE. Cena and Angle will be able to start a number of other interesting feuds on RAW.

Jericho finally turned heel, wooo! Cena's gonna be defending his title against Christian and Y2J at Vengeance? Awesome! I really wonder how this draft is going to affect Smackdown, though. Will Cena get drafted back? For some reason, it seems like Smackdown's getting the short end of the stick...Man, I fear for the RAW roster. I don't want them to lose anyone else!

[kuno_thunder]

Ok, ECW One Night Stand was freakin' awesome.  I need not post match results or anything, but I must say that Mike Awesome vs Masato Tanaka was THE match of the night - moreso than the main event (which was riddled with very cool nostalgic cameos, but took away from the match itself), IMHO.  RVD's and Paul Heyman's shoots were great.  Just like the old days I guess, even though I only started got into it when it was on TNN.  Great show.  Great fuckin' show.

[TheQuickening]

It's nice to see Angle and Triple H feuding again. Angle's comment about Stephanie= PWNAGE.

Was it just me, or did anyone else hear Triple H reply to that comment Angle made by referring to her as is "ex-wife"?        Didn't they just have a kid together?

[Kenji]

I'll wait til the end of the week before I post my Fantasy League results. So far, I'm ranked 1620 with 119 points.

Spoilers for Smackdown:








MAN! WTF! ORTON GOT DRAFTED TO SMACKDOWN!?!?!?! AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!111111

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!1111


Kurt getting drafted over to RAW got me so excited, too. Smackdown's already struggling, I don't see how drafting Orton will help the show AT ALL...seeing as how he still has two months or so until he comes back. The matches for this week sound horrible: JBL vs. Undertaker? The hell? The Undertaker hasn't come out for like 500 years. Benoit vs. Doug Basham? Eddie vs London? OJ vs Holly? WTF.

Right now, Smackdown's looking really week. Hopefully they get Cena back, and also get Jericho and Christian.

[TheQuickening]

MAN! WTF! ORTON GOT DRAFTED TO SMACKDOWN!?!?!?! AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!111111

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!1111

I had heard rumors about that, like, 2 or 3 months ago (whenever it was that he got injured).  Apparently the whole thing between him and Undertaker was the first step to bringing him over to SD.  It's also why they turned him heel again.  They need more/better heels on SD.

[topdawg712]

It's nice to see Angle and Triple H feuding again. Angle's comment about Stephanie= PWNAGE.

Was it just me, or did anyone else hear Triple H reply to that comment Angle made by referring to her as is "ex-wife"?        Didn't they just have a kid together?

He was referring to a storyline that took place a few years ago. I don't remember the whole thing, but on RAW, they were going to renew their wedding vows, but triple H for some reason I don't remember got angry at Steph and wrecked the setup in the ring and pedigreed Steph. After that they got a divorce. They are still dating in real life, though.

[LoveHaruru]

Finally checked out that ECW PPV...the wrestling was incredible.

Makes me miss it, but I kinda get the feeling that it'll get old after a while, plus as mentioned on the "Rise and Fall of ECW" DVD, if ECW wanted to become big, they'd have to water themselves down - and it just won't be ECW if that were the case.

[Kenji]

It's nice to see Angle and Triple H feuding again. Angle's comment about Stephanie= PWNAGE.

Was it just me, or did anyone else hear Triple H reply to that comment Angle made by referring to her as is "ex-wife"?        Didn't they just have a kid together?

He was referring to a storyline that took place a few years ago. I don't remember the whole thing, but on RAW, they were going to renew their wedding vows, but triple H for some reason I don't remember got angry at Steph and wrecked the setup in the ring and pedigreed Steph. After that they got a divorce. They are still dating in real life, though.

Actually, he was probably referring to Chyna. Triple H and Steph are still married.

I saw the first few matches from ECW ONS...pretty solid so far. The 3 way dance was kinda half assed, though. The matches from a few years back were so much better.

[Lemon]

After 1 1/2 years, Raven is FINALLY the new NWA champ! w00t!

[Kenji]

Yaaay, I jumped from #100000--->4000--->530th place or somewhere around there. I'm only a few points behind my friend who was 3rd place in the beginning of last week! I hope the pay per view helps me out big time.

I wasn't able to watch RAW last night, but I recorded it...will post my thoughts later.

[Kenji]

Tonights Smackdown wasn't too bad. Then again, any show with Orton= Good...even if it's only a promo. I can't wait until he's medically cleared so he can kick Takers ass.

The Eddie/Rey match was top notch. I kinda cringed when Rey got thrown into the steel steps...it looked like he hit his head pretty hard.

Hmm, I wonder who's going to win that 6 way dance next week. I'm rooting for JBL or Hassan. I really hope they bring Cena back. You know, Smackdown's really lacking in the face department right now. While they do have quite a few heels, the only top faces they have at the moment are: Rey, Benoit, Booker T, Big Show, and Taker (who comes out like once a year). So that's not saying much AT ALL. They're in serious need of two more top faces. Booker T and Show just aren't going to cut it. Send those jobbers to RAW! >_>

[TheQuickening]

What about Juventuud Guerrera, Psikosis, and Super Crazy!!!  I saw them coming out on the big lawn mower (     ) and I was, WTF?!?!?!??         I thought Juvvy had sworn that he'd never, ever work for Vince.  Oh well, when you need the job, you need the job, I guess.  He sure didn't use the time to improve his english skills, that's for sure.  I could barely understand what he was saying.

[Kenji]

The Mexicools...

Truthfully, I'm not sure WHAT to think of them at the moment. Their gimmick intrigues me, that's for sure. I wonder how far they're gonna go with this...knowing the WWE, they'll probably end up in Velocity hell in a matter of months. I'm hoping that they turn them into an unstoppable force with Eddie and Chavo joining. Then Rey-Rey, and some of the other top faces can feud against them.

That lawnmower was amusing, but man...Juvvy's English was just horrible. I could hardly understand him as well. I would have been embarassed if I was a Mexican in the arena.

On another note, DANG Michelle McCool is hot. She's probably my favorite Diva search girl. I see that she's gotten implants...nice. Melina's also quite hot herself. I'm actually looking forward to their match next week, believe it or not.

[Kenji]

WOOOOOOOOOOO! FINALLY! SMACKDOWN DOESN'T GET THE SHORT END OF THE STICK! Major spoilers:










The final picks for Smackdown were Christian and Batista. So here's how the draft lottery went for both shows:

RAW

1. John Cena
2. Kurt Angle
3. Carlito
4. Big Show
5. RVD

Smackdown!

1. Chris Benoit
2. Randy Orton
3. Muhammad Hassan & Daivari
4. Christian
5. Batista

I'd say Smackdown got the better draft this time around. I'm so happy too, 'cause I was real worried that Orton would get stuck on the B show. But it looks like they're trying to make both brands equal again. Hell, RAW might be the inferior brand now...'cause their lineup of top superstars just doesn't look as impressive now. Here's how it stacks up for RAW:

Top faces

1. John Cena
2. HBK
3. RVD
4. Big Show
5. Kane
6. Shelton Benjamin
7. Viscera

Top heels:

1. Triple H
2. Kurt Angle
3. Edge
4. Chris Jericho
5. Carlito
6. Gene Snitsky
7. Chris Masters

Although their heel lineup looks impressive, the top faces are pretty lacking. It almost reminds me of Smackdowns old lineup before the draft lottery. However, Smackdown's lineup looks A LOT more solid:

Top faces:

1. Batista
2. Chris Benoit
3. Undertaker
4. Booker T
5. Rey Mysterio
6. Heidenreich

Top heels:

1. JBL
2. Randy Orton
3. Eddie Guerrero
4. Christian
5. Muhammad Hassan
6. Matt Morgan

Actually, I've noticed that while both brands have pretty good heels, they're lacking in the face department. But it looks like Smackdown FINALLY got the better of the draft this time around. All I know is that I have a reason to watch Smackdown now. I hope there's no ridiculous trades or anything.

[daigong]

That's a spoiler?? I KNEW IT! Batista was gonna go to Smackdown, either that or Triple H who seems to be "injured" ...

they really pimping John Cena now, that whole Hulk Hogan/Shawn Michaels thing was expected.

At least Smackdown will get more interesting...RAW was too stacked with the top talent that's for sure. More Big Vis!! Damn him for breaking Lillian Garcia's  

[LoveHaruru]

Raw bored the hell out of me the other night....though Smackdown might make up for it with those choices.

Only thing that bothers me is, where does this leave Christian and Edge in the title picture?  I was expecting Edge and Christian winning BOTH come Summerslam, but the draft changed everything, and I can't imagine them winning either atleast until the Survivor Series - if not the Rumble.

[Kenji]

I can imagine Edge winning a title, but I don't see Christian winning one for awhile. He'll probably be in the title hunt though, since I think they're trying to push him to main event status on Smackdown now. What I smell though is an Orton/Batista feud come Survivor Series...if they don't trade Batista back, that is. Orton's probably going to get pushed for the title again, and I wouldn't be surprised if he wins it within the next few months.

Was I the only one last night who WASN'T happy to see Hogan? I was actually hoping that The Rock would be the secret tag team partner, 'cause they were in Hollywood and all. Hogan was cool 15 years ago, people...I'm sick of him doing the same ass shit. Jericho's jab at Nash was awesome though.

[daigong]

LMFAO at RAW. Now HBK is a heel. How long will that last? Will the bring back Diesel? That saying, who gives a fuck about Hogan's reality show  :evil:

Kerwin White! ... so there's a big ass trade, who else got in.

[TheQuickening]

LMFAO at RAW. Now HBK is a heel. How long will that last? Will the bring back Diesel? That saying, who gives a fuck about Hogan's reality show  :evil:

Kerwin White! ... so there's a big ass trade, who else got in.[/color]

Apparently a bunch of guys who weren't doing anything:

To RAW: Mark Jindrak, Rene Dupree, Danny Basham, Kenzo Suzuki (with Hiroko), Chavo Guerrero (now aka Kerwin White).

To SD: William Regal, Candice (the diva chick), Sylvain Grenier (sorry, no reunion for the original La Resistance), Simon Dean, Steven Richards.

[Kenji]

Worst RAW I've seen in years...though the HBK heel turn might make things interesting. Right now, RAW's REALLY lacking in the face department. So they've got Cena as a top face...then who? Kane, Big Show, and Shelton? Give me a break. Anyhow, here's some breaking news:



"WWE.com announced today the release of Gangrel, Billy Kidman, Shannon Moore, Akio, Maven and Mark Jindrak. And of course, WWE wishes them all well in their future endeavors.

Gangrel was signed to a developmental deal back in the fall after making some appearances on Smackdown. He had some personal problems to attend to which halted his training at OVW. WWE must not have seen much in him and just finally pulled the plug.

Billy Kidman, Shannon Moore and Akio were mainstays on Velocity, but just could not get over with the fans it seemed. Billy Kidman's release should be devastating to Smackdown Diva Torrie Wilson.

Mark Jindrak was traded to the Raw brand just last week. While he was athletic, he couldn't seem to get over at all after two years.

And the Maven-Tough Enough project has come to an end after four years. Now both winners of the original Tough Enough have been axed, the other one being Nidia of course. Also, Chris Nowinski is more than likely retired and Josh Mathews is an announcer, so thus there are no actual wrestlers on today's WWE roster from that original series of Tough Enough.

Vince McMahon had a meeting with WWE wrestlers before last week's supershow and said that releases were coming soon. He noted that wrestlers who hadn't done what it took to get even a little over with the fans were the people mostly likely to get handed a pink slip. And most of the projected suspects to get released were in fact released today.

In addition to the 6 WWE superstars that were released from the company earlier today, it has been announced that World Wrestling Entertainment is also releasing Kevin "Mordecai" Fertig and Spike Dudley.

Fertig has a quick cup of coffee on the main WWE roster, with his biggest match being against Hardcore Holly at last year's Great American Bash. He was quickly sent back to OVW for training when it was decided that he had not gotten over well with fans.

Spike Dudley is a former WWE Tag Team Champion and Cruiserweight Champion, and was last seen helping the Dudley Boyz light their flaming table at ECW's "One Night Stand". Spike was dealing with injuries from a match he worked before the ECW PPV, which is why he didn't wrestle at the event."