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Re: (Artist) Nakagawa Shoko
« Reply #1320 on: September 16, 2008, 11:22:02 AM »

Shokotan fans are really awesome ><


Yes WE are indeed awesome  :lol:


The new ballad I guess will be the second song on the next single just like Through the Looking Glass.  It's nearly an excellent ballad, but as with Looking Glass (where the chorus was a little simple) I think the chorus let's it down a bit.  The initial phrase of the chorus is promising, but then it's repeated at a lower lever which sounds a bit generic and sentimental and it continues ok but not with great invention.  Nevertheless the vocal and the production is good.  It's likely the next single will feature another uptempo track as a contrast I suppose, but I wish she would release a single with the main song as a ballad again.  Of the two songs I probably prefer Looking Glass (splendid arrangement).

I think her dressing up and playing characters almost gives her more confidence to just be herself or even more than herself, as you can see in that SMOJI show.

The spiral chiptune mix of Sorairo Days is rather like the Brilliant Dream remix, it's more playful and possibly less forced in the chorus than the original version and so is a good contrast.

I'm sad that Dear My Saint Girl is getting consigned to oblivion, it's a good melody and a vocal style that suits her.  It's like 君にメロロン  (Kimi ni Meroron)  or Koi no Kioku (恋の記憶 Memory of Love) but possibly better than either (certainly better than Kiki ni Meroron, although it's pleasant).  It's certainly unfortunate that good songs like Shiny Gate (in particular), and also Strawberry Melody and Winter Wish were left off the concert DVD.

The sound seems better on the concert than it did on her first concert DVD, particularly for her vocals.  Perhaps the band sound could have been higher in the mix at times, but the vocal is the main thing and they got that right.  But for a recording in an arena (as against a TV studio) I though the sound was excellent.  The band does well and the jam on Brilliant Dream is good and so appropriate for that song (it calls out for it).  The picture montage from her blog at that point is also a great idea and very appropriate.  Her performance is of course better than at the first concert because she was very nervous at the start of that.  She also seems to have fun in Fruit Punch, it's a song she maybe likes alot.  Snow Tears is given an appropriately simpler staging and her vocal is pretty good.  I don't think she is really made for power ballads, she is more suited for sweet pop songs like Koi no Kioku, Kimi ni Meroron and Dear My Saint Girl but the performance was certainly more than adequate even though it's hard for her to show her sweeter side in it.  One of the funniest moments was the sudden introduction of the cat images during the performance of 1/2 (a song she seems to always perform well and I guess really like).  I didn't like the new cap for 'Is Sukashikashipan a Little Strange?', it just seemed too big.  Some of the audience didn't dance to it I noticed  :lol:  The two dancers she seems to have throughout with her did quite well, although maybe it would have been better to introduce some other dancers at some point just to mix things up a bit.  I suspect in a few years they may change her image and have male dancers instead of just female.  At present it's still the cute idol image, and that's good because that feels very much her so it doesn't feel forced or unnatural.  The sitting on a crescent moon which is then lowered used in Kimi ni Meroron replicates a staging used by Seiko Matsuda during the 80s in a TV performance.  The same with the rising up from under the stage, which was used by Seiko in arenas.

More thoughts to come....
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Re: (Artist) Nakagawa Shoko
« Reply #1321 on: September 16, 2008, 11:41:52 AM »
Yh was reading the setlist and confused why I couldn't see strawberry melody >_<  Why were songs left off?

I would definately be a dancing along fan! :D  Just another thought about her fans I love how many girl and young fans she has!!
For someone like her(huge cosplayer) having her fans dress up as her must really mean so much to her.  You can really see how amazed she is by her fans~ <3

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Re: (Artist) Nakagawa Shoko
« Reply #1322 on: September 16, 2008, 06:42:51 PM »
Todays arrivals:




Time for some concert viewing :cow:

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« Reply #1323 on: September 17, 2008, 07:54:58 AM »

The new ballad I guess will be the second song on the next single just like Through the Looking Glass. 

It's the A-side

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=SRCL-6880

Just pre-ordered ><
Low on money right now because of what happened before so only ordered 1 copy of both CD and CD+DVD version. ;_;
I might order another copy of the CD+DVD version later so I can keep a sealed first press copy of it.

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« Reply #1324 on: September 19, 2008, 09:33:13 AM »
Hi I'm new here but I've been watching the forum for a while now :)

There was a show called M-ON that covered Shokotan's experience at Anime Expo. Someone uploaded it on youtube :D

They showed some interviews of people who were waiting in line for the autograph session! Didn't someone say they were going to see her from Canada? Cus I think they're in it!

Part 1/3

Part 2/3

Part 3/3

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Re: (Artist) Nakagawa Shoko
« Reply #1325 on: September 19, 2008, 09:39:20 AM »
The performance of starry pink is really good too.  It's a very exposed vocal in the first part of the song, but she does well.  I'm not sure how even the harshest critic could say she doesn't give a good performance.

They seem to have missed out Strawberry Melody (and one or two others songs) because they concentrated on anime songs in the concert.  I don't mind them doing 1/2 or Romantic Ageruyo as they are songs where she did videos and they have become associated with her.  Also instead of a Seiko medley as in the first concert dvd there is an anime medley in this.  That works ok as it mixes up the rhythm of the concert.

The only thing I don't like so much in her performance is when she punches the air and gives these short shouts, she seems to have got into the habit of doing this.  I think it helps give her energy maybe but I find it a little annoying.  :P  It only happens maybe a couple of times though, so it's not a big thing. 

There's less talking in the main concert than on the first dvd and that's good for those who don't understand Japanese as there are no subtitles.  The concert is meant to peak around Sorairo Days and starry pink.  I'm glad starry pink is put at the end as it is one of the best songs she has sang in my opinion.  She does talk a little to the crowd at that time, I guess just thanking them for supporting her.



Hey shinygate (good name by the way, it's a good song) you can download that Shokotan in the US video you mention here...(you need a torrent program)...

http://www.tokyotosho.com/details.php?id=158016


I think someone said most of her fans are young?  I think that might be the case for pop music (as it normally is for recent music) and maybe for her blog (not that many can understand what she says because of the unusual language she speaks in it).  But in general - from what I understand - she has a quite wide audience in Japan.  This is probably because she has appeared on alot of Japanese light entertainment programs and these are I would guess watched by a broad audience.  She seems to be featured in alot of adverts too.


So when's she performing at a UK con/expo??? T___T

Indeed.
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Re: (Artist) Nakagawa Shoko
« Reply #1326 on: September 24, 2008, 07:47:09 PM »
Hi I'm new here but I've been watching the forum for a while now :)

There was a show called M-ON that covered Shokotan's experience at Anime Expo. Someone uploaded it on youtube :D

They showed some interviews of people who were waiting in line for the autograph session! Didn't someone say they were going to see her from Canada? Cus I think they're in it!


That was me at about 7 minutes into the first video lol >_>
I initially discovered Shokotan through this thread and became a fan after hearing Brilliant Dream
It was my first time going to a convention outside of Canada so I tried to show myself as a hardcore fan lol
I ended up buying 10 t-shirts that day because there wasn't much Shokotan merchandise being sold at the convention for some reason and they were only $15 each.  I was going to buy more since I had a lot of money with me and there wasn't a lot of stuff to buy but I held back >_>.  The t-shirts weren't as good as the Donyoku Matsuri ones and I ended up giving a few to my friends even though they didn't want them lol.  I didn't end up wearing one everyday like I said I was going to ><;; I think the last time I wore one was the same week I came back to Canada. 
You can also see me a few times in the DVD too.  My interview got cut (thankfully >_>) but there was a few pan-overs where I could see myself during the concert.  I was in the front row so it was easy to spot.

I got my Nakagawa Shoko Official Fan Club GIZA PINKU stuff ><
It came with a fan club membership card, a small magazine, a huge sticker and a letter.
I'm not really sure what the other perks are yet except the fact that I can't attend the meetings ;_;
It's probably a little pointless being in the fan club since I live in Canada but this membership card is awesome ><
I can claim to be really hardcore now lol

crappy picture of the stuff taken with my phone:
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« Reply #1327 on: September 26, 2008, 10:14:31 AM »
^True, that's pretty hardcore  :lol: cool stuff.

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« Reply #1328 on: September 26, 2008, 02:42:27 PM »
I looked on the internet at that a few months ago and there seemed to be a joining fee + an annual fee, so it seemed alot particularly as it would be all in Japanese.  From what I remember there may have been a link to an internet forum for members (unless I'm confusing it with somewhere else).

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« Reply #1329 on: September 27, 2008, 07:26:36 AM »
I looked on the internet at that a few months ago and there seemed to be a joining fee + an annual fee, so it seemed alot particularly as it would be all in Japanese.  From what I remember there may have been a link to an internet forum for members (unless I'm confusing it with somewhere else).

The joining fee was 1000 yen and the annual fee was 4000 yen.  I remember asking one of Shokotan's manager if I could join the fan club and they said it was impossible especially since I didn't live in Japan.  I mostly wanted to be in the fan club so I can get a fan club card >_> I wanted one really bad ever since I first saw it lol.  The picture of Shokotan on the card I saw was different than the one I have so there's probably a lot of different cards out there ><

My friend said there was a fan club meeting this weekend in Tokyo.  I wish I could be there too ><
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Re: (Artist) Nakagawa Shoko
« Reply #1330 on: September 30, 2008, 06:06:49 AM »
I forgot to mention that Tsuzuku Sekai Matsuri is being rerun on SMOJ for a limited time. 
You can watch it here online (between Sept. 19 and Oct. 17)
http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/common/Player/player.html?/Music/Arch/Common/MV/MV01-01/SR008-18/movie_h.asx
I have it ripped too in case someone wants to save it or it's down. (way better quality than the one I had before)
They never reran ShyGe Matsuri for some reason ><
If anyone has footage of it please let me know :(

Also Shokotan blogged about the fan club meeting my friend was talking about ><
Shokotan really cares a lot about her fans
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« Reply #1331 on: October 05, 2008, 12:52:55 PM »
Haven't got it to play yet, it says I need to acquire a license.  I'll keep trying though.

I did notice last weeked there were some pictures which I thought probably related to the fan meeting.







New single on 22nd

Samples

01. 綺麗ア・ラ・モード
http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/Music/Arch/SR/ShokoNakagawa/SRCL-6882/1/sound.asx

02. カミツレ
http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/Music/Arch/SR/ShokoNakagawa/SRCL-6882/2/sound.asx

03. 約束
http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/Music/Arch/SR/ShokoNakagawa/SRCL-6882/3/sound.asx

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Re: (Artist) Nakagawa Shoko
« Reply #1332 on: October 06, 2008, 12:14:55 AM »
@starry01482 don't forget she became famous as a 'photobook idol' originally.

The shouting 'hai' along is a very very very common thing in japan, all their artists do it.  It's to encourage the audience to it and generally get the crowd going.  I can imagine it's pretty intense in person.

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Re: (Artist) Nakagawa Shoko
« Reply #1333 on: October 06, 2008, 10:39:28 AM »
@starry01482 don't forget she became famous as a 'photobook idol' originally.

Yes I know, but what's your point on that?  :)

I think it's the development has probably been something like....   gravure idol -> blogger  -> TV personality / entertainer  -> singer

But I don't think she is a bad singer, she has probably been compared with someone like Leah Dizon but from what I've heard I like Shoko's voice more (and some songs I think have been good).  I also think unlike alot of those who started as gravure idols she has some personality and isn't just dull.  But it's probably true that because she started as a gravure idol many people will only see her that way and it's probably a handicap.

The shouting 'hai' along is a very very very common thing in japan, all their artists do it.  It's to encourage the audience to it and generally get the crowd going.  I can imagine it's pretty intense in person.

That may be but I still find it a little annoying.   :P

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Re: (Artist) Nakagawa Shoko
« Reply #1334 on: October 07, 2008, 12:06:03 PM »
In the case of Shoko, her past is her greatest asset towards her singing career and isn't a handicap. She's a gravure idol, she started as one and still is. As a singer, she would never have made it this far if she never did the stuff before. In Japan, doing gravure isn't looked down upon, lots of Japan's greatest celebrities have done it, and it helped boost their careers to some extent. She's a better singer than Leah, and has way better songs imo, but a "singer" she is not. From how I see it, singing is just a part of her career as an idol. Leah on the other hand is more of the opposite, she's using gravure as a platform to boost her singing career.

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« Reply #1335 on: October 07, 2008, 03:53:34 PM »
In the case of Shoko, her past is her greatest asset towards her singing career and isn't a handicap. She's a gravure idol, she started as one and still is. As a singer, she would never have made it this far if she never did the stuff before. In Japan, doing gravure isn't looked down upon, lots of Japan's greatest celebrities have done it, and it helped boost their careers to some extent. She's a better singer than Leah, and has way better songs imo, but a "singer" she is not. From how I see it, singing is just a part of her career as an idol. Leah on the other hand is more of the opposite, she's using gravure as a platform to boost her singing career.

Yeh I know what you mean it is an asset, at least in getting her started and noticed.  From then on though it could be seen as more restrictive potentially in people's view of her.  I don't really know how big a gap there is nowadays between music and image anyway.  Certainly idol singers have been a part of Japanese music from the 70s really.  I'm not sure if there is a differentiation between an idol-singer and a singer-idol or not, but I do feel the quality of some of her songs and her increasing confidence in live performance could make her be seen as more than just a cute looking singer.  Certainly if she continues in music over the coming years it's likely they would try and change her image even more (although I like it as it is).  Shoko does seem to like doing alot of different things though so we'll have to see.     

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« Reply #1336 on: October 07, 2008, 05:55:47 PM »
Haven't got it to play yet, it says I need to acquire a license.  I'll keep trying though.

I did notice last weeked there were some pictures which I thought probably related to the fan meeting.




try using Internet Explorer or a different browser to watch it
i have the same problem watching the videos using Firefox but they work fine on IE
i can upload the rip of it if you still can't get it to work

and that was the fan club meeting ><
my friend told me about 360 people showed up and they had a scavenger hunt then dinner afterwards
he told Shokotan that i got into the fan club but i live in Canada so i couldn't come and she told him to tell me "nippon ni sun de" (please live in Japan lol)

also the PV for Kirei A La Mode :D



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« Reply #1337 on: October 19, 2008, 10:37:42 PM »
The PV is simple, but I love it! She's so pretty in it.  :heart:

I love the song also. :D

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Re: (Artist) Nakagawa Shoko
« Reply #1338 on: October 20, 2008, 11:02:57 AM »
She is releasing her singles waaay to fast. If she's not careful it could lead to overkill.

Shiny Gate, Tsuzuku Sekai and Kirei a la mode have been released within three and a half months!

I mean, I'm still rocking out to Tsuzuku Sekai, I don't want a new single already..

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Re: (Artist) Nakagawa Shoko
« Reply #1339 on: October 23, 2008, 01:56:32 AM »
did someone catch and record kirei a la mode matsuri on SMOJ?
i missed the first half of it because i was confused what time it started at ><

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