Author Topic: [Tour] H!P Summer Tour 2006 ~Wonderful Hearts Land~ (Read 52042 times)

Linus · « **Reply #200 on:** October 14, 2006, 04:45:14 PM »

^Since your question is on this thread... I guess you talk about Konno and Makoto?
Mako-chan is studying overseas, on New Zeland apparently.
Konkon is on the university. Or at least she left to do the join exams.

Yuna · « **Reply #201 on:** October 14, 2006, 11:55:03 PM »

Thst's too bad, I reallt liked them, especially Makoto. I was hoping that even after graduating they would still appear a lot, like Rika.

I hope they will come back some day...

Koolmon93 · « **Reply #202 on:** October 15, 2006, 01:58:39 AM »

Rika graduated to persue Viyuuden... So that's the only reason she's stil around. But Makoto does plan on coming back!

Princess Pudding · « **Reply #203 on:** October 15, 2006, 04:57:42 AM »

Who knows when, though

DroolBoy · « **Reply #204 on:** October 16, 2006, 07:20:01 AM »

The DVD sold 19,321 in its first week on the ORICON charts.

~Dan~ · « **Reply #205 on:** October 16, 2006, 04:25:40 PM »

Quote from: Yuna

Thst's too bad, I reallt liked them, especially Makoto. I was hoping that even after graduating they would still appear a lot, like Rika.

I hope they will come back some day...

Well, Konno's gone, I doubt we'll ever see her again except in tabloids.
Makoto on the other hand is still a H!P member, although as she's studying she won't have a lot of time for H!P stuff so I've no idea what she's gonna do.

kingthaking81 · « **Reply #206 on:** October 17, 2006, 10:48:42 AM »

boo for an almost 100% lipsynched concert. IT really bothered me. So it's a no get for me. I considered buying because of Konno's grad, but it's not worth it if it's not even sung live... WEll, the performances were great though, and the diversity in costumes as well(biyuuden HOT!).

reyfer · « **Reply #207 on:** October 19, 2006, 03:52:10 AM »

Wow, just got my DVD, and I'm really sad this concert seems almost completely lipsynch.

And that makes me wonder. This concert was on July 23rd, and from that date until the DVD release NOBODY, not even the mowotas on their blogs, said something aboud it being lipsynch? That seems strange to me. Specially since some friends were at the concert and did not mention that to me. My brother in law (sound engineer) says that sometimes in the post-production for the concert DVDs, some companies just "embellish" the audio because they want it to sound clearer... still, really strange that nobody mentioned this before. Everybody mentioned being upset about not being prepared to say goodbye to Mako, but NOT A WORD about this concert being just lipsynch...

DroolBoy · « **Reply #208 on:** October 19, 2006, 04:43:10 AM »

The sound was so good in the DVD.. perhaps it was done like you said..

reyfer · « **Reply #209 on:** October 19, 2006, 04:55:05 AM »

Thing is, we know how the japanese media LOVES to jump at every chance to criticize or ridicule H!P and MM in particular, so it's strange that not even one of the press covering the show said something about the lipsynch... so until somebody comes up with another theory, I'll go with my friend's theory of the post-production thing, at least gives me hope that THE GIRLS DID NOT DISRESPECT their fans at Yoyogi Stadium that night.

DroolBoy · « **Reply #210 on:** October 19, 2006, 05:32:56 AM »

Well, how long is the usual last date of tour to DVD timeframe?

If it was longer than usual, then they might've dubbed..

reyfer · « **Reply #211 on:** October 19, 2006, 05:42:48 AM »

Quote from: DroolBoy

Well, how long is the usual last date of tour to DVD timeframe?

If it was longer than usual, then they might've dubbed..

I checked with the other concert DVDs i have, and it's ususally two months, this one was three months.

And another thing that makes me wonder about this is, if you watch carefully during the Renai Revolution 21 performance, you'll see the girls clearly are saying things to the audience and doing their little yelling, but no sound comes from their mikes...

Koolmon93 · « **Reply #212 on:** October 19, 2006, 06:43:39 AM »

And if you watch Musume Dokyu, you can see the girls rehearsing ALL FOR ONE w/o mics...

reyfer · « **Reply #213 on:** October 19, 2006, 06:51:47 AM »

I know some song maybe were lipsynch, but THE WHOLE THING? because judging by the DVD, the only live performance was SUKI NA SENPAI
By the way, Koolmon93, one thing is to rehearse the POSITIONS AND MOVES using playback, and another one lipsynch during the actual performance

Koolmon93 · « **Reply #214 on:** October 19, 2006, 07:33:21 AM »

Ya.. but just wanted to point that out.. And the only other live perf was Berryz's....

frblckstr1 · « **Reply #215 on:** October 19, 2006, 07:42:27 AM »

^ If some of the posted pictures are correct, I am starting to gues they used footage from several concerts to make the DVD, if they then also processed the sound a bit (because the last few had a very bad 'flat' sound) that will account for it seemingling being 'a lot of lyp synced'.

reyfer · « **Reply #216 on:** October 19, 2006, 07:46:03 AM »

Quote from: frblckstr1

^ If some of the posted pictures are correct, I am starting to gues they used footage from several concerts to make the DVD, if they then also processed the sound a bit (because the last few had a very bad 'flat' sound) that will account for it seemingling being 'a lot of lyp synced'.

No, the concert footage is actually from the night of July 23rd, except the Nono and Berryz extras that are from the day before. The pics going around, however, are from different nights.

tamatron · « **Reply #217 on:** October 19, 2006, 12:42:39 PM »

From what I heard, every perf was from July 23rd, just some were from the afternoon concert, some were actually from the grad concert.

You can't really blame it all on the girls. It wasn't like they had any say in whether they wanted to sing live or not. It was the production. With the stage that huge, not enough speakers, and no in-ear monitors? I think it was impossible for them to sing live. You know with the T-shaped stage with a band in the back, when you walk to the end of the catwalk, the music you hear from the speaker right there is delayed from the real music the band is playing. That's when an in-ear monitor is helpful. So with a stage this big and no in-ear monitor? Impossible.

And once again, Berryz's perf was not live. Here are mic recordings from the grad con.
http://rapidshare.de/files/37318023/Momoko_s_mic_-_Waracchaou_yo_BOYFRIEND__060723_night___Yoyogi_.mp3.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/37318175/Kumarisha_s_mic_-_Waracchaou_yo_BOYFRIEND__060723_night___Yoyogi_.mp3.html

reyfer · « **Reply #218 on:** October 19, 2006, 05:10:04 PM »

Quote from: tama-chan

From what I heard, every perf was from July 23rd, just some were from the afternoon concert, some were actually from the grad concert.

You can't really blame it all on the girls. It wasn't like they had any say in whether they wanted to sing live or not. It was the production. With the stage that huge, not enough speakers, and no in-ear monitors? I think it was impossible for them to sing live. You know with the T-shaped stage with a band in the back, when you walk to the end of the catwalk, the music you hear from the speaker right there is delayed from the real music the band is playing. That's when an in-ear monitor is helpful. So with a stage this big and no in-ear monitor? Impossible.

And once again, Berryz's perf was not live. Here are mic recordings from the grad con.
http://rapidshare.de/files/37318023/Momoko_s_mic_-_Waracchaou_yo_BOYFRIEND__060723_night___Yoyogi_.mp3.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/37318175/Kumarisha_s_mic_-_Waracchaou_yo_BOYFRIEND__060723_night___Yoyogi_.mp3.html

You may be right. Thing is, the stage was bigger at Kaori's grad concert last year, and there were more people involved, and still the lipsynch was limited to a few performances, so the stage size is not an issue here. I know the girls don't have a saying in this, but if they were lipsynching and they knew it, why make it so obvious by making the gesture of yelling and saying words on the mike if they know no sound will come out? And the band thing does not apply to any H!P concert, the music is always playback, it's the lyrics that are supposed to be live. Anyway, if the lipsynch at this concert was so blatant and extensive, I am still wondering why NOBODY from the wotas or the press said something before

tamatron · « **Reply #219 on:** October 19, 2006, 05:47:31 PM »

Quote from: reyfer

Anyway, if the lipsynch at this concert was so blatant and extensive, I am still wondering why NOBODY from the wotas or the press said something before

Because the focus was supposed to be the grad? And I suppose you don't go to Japanese boards? Coz there are always mentions whether the concerts are live or lipsynch.
I never watched Kaori's grad. But I'll still go with what I've said before. I've only seen 4 huge piles of speakers. They didn't even seem to be for the performers, but for the audience.