Heroes

[Saburo]

Thanks for the details/spoilers/plot summaries.  Maybe I'll watch 'em all later if/when things get more interesting...

[reina's eyes]

By the end of last season I was ready to give up. Still won't take much for me to quit. But Ill hang in for bit.

That flimsy louvered closet door wouldn't have withstood my superpowers to get to hayden panettiere. :-)

[Ayabie]

Finally got to watch the new episodes.

Both were kind of shitty, but there's nothing better to watch so I'll keep following this.

[frblckstr1]

^ Eureka, NCIS, Flashpoint, Terminator the sara connor chronicles, Stargate Atlantis

maybe: CSI (Miami, New york), Smallville, True Blood, Numb3rs

[Masa]

Epic failure! The latest episode is as bad as the worst episodes of Season 2. The first two episodes were entertaining despite being stupid but the latest episode is straight up booooooring....



- Hayden is still smokin' hot 
- "FBI-agent" Sylar 
- No Spider-Mohinder



- Tracy's storyline
- Hiro's storyline & his nemesis. Hiro's stupidity is making me wish that the apocalypse really happens this season.
- The lamest villains ever! Two of them got already killed and one was captured. What the hell happened to "12 Sylars"? Apparently it takes one Sylar to stop all these lame ass wannabe bad guys
- Parkman's spirit walk
- Bennet family drama
- Milo's acting

Episode #4 preview


LOL @ Sylar 

[Saburo]

Epic failure! The latest episode is as bad as the worst episodes of Season 2.

Ouch!  Jeez, I thought the people in charge learned their lesson regarding Season Two's shortcomings.

Anyway, thanks for the episode reviews.  Saves me the trouble of leeching and watching and being let down.  But lemme know if K. Bell shows up in something skimpy...

[Tuffty]

I know Heroes wasn't the most original series to start off with, but there's major storylines happening from the opening two episodes I watched last night that were downright carbon copies from other TV or film. For example, Nathan/Linderman's 'is he there?' relationship = Baltar/Six from BSG. And Mohinder's story is almost as if they remade The Fly by David Cronenberg (and knowing Hollywood's love of remakes, it's probably already in the works as well. Great movie btw). Don't be surprised if later in the season, as Mohinder continues to degenerate, Maya announces she is preggers and begins to wonder how the baby will turn out.

Other than that though, a decent opening. Will have to watch the whole Season to pass judgement obviously, but it's entertaining, not so much enthralling. Also, you heard it here first from me, I think in that confrontation between Hiro and Ando, Ando was the 'hero' and Hiro the 'villain'.

[StreakInTheSky]

Sylar was the only thing I enjoyed the last episode... I'm personally not that attracted to Hayden, so the lack of Elle and Maya in the episode was a big letdown. I'm beginning to question if I want to even continue watching. I really just want to see what Sylar does next.

[ebc]

Yeah season 3 is like all over the place!
I wish the story would just focus on one thing instead of a million different things, trying to connect them all at the end.

And the whole story of Hiro is just so flawed, the guy can travel into the future but he can't stop a girl from taking one half of that formula thing? WTF? have the writers forgotten what he's capable of? He's like pretty much able to do whatever he wants with his ability.

[Masa]

Masi Oka talks Heroes Season Three

CBR: Last week, we saw Ando kill Hiro in a future flash-forward. Do you think they’ll get back to being friends soon, and are the writers making an effort to make all of the characters darker this season?

Masi Oka: I think so. I think the writers want to introduce a little bit of a different dynamic between Hiro and Ando, just to start things off. We will see them back to their regular selves, hopefully really soon. I think because it is the volume called “Villains,” we want to put in seeds of doubt in terms of every relationship we’ve had and shake up the status quo. I think that’s definitely an intentional part by the writers to put that in.

Is it possible that “present” Hiro misunderstood what he saw and that “future” Hiro is bad and “future” Ando is good?

I think it got edited down to be a little bit more ambiguous. Originally, it was going to be Ando actually on the evil side. Ando, Knox and Daphne vs. Peter, Clare and Hiro -- that was the original vision of it and we shortened it for time’s sake. The way it was edited, the fight between those two, “future” Hiro and “future” Ando got edited as well. The way it was explained to me was that Ando was like Lando Calrissian. There was a betrayal. I guess he got money for the formula or something. That was the back-story that was given to me. The way it was edited was left up to interpretation. When we were filming it, the intent was that. But of course this is a future that we are going to prevent from happening but you never know what is going to happen. It could be reversed.

“Volume Three: Villains” premiered at Comic-Con International to great reviews. But after it aired last week, some critics weren’t so kind. What do you attribute that to and how do you deal with fans’ disappointment with season two?

I don’t know? Every critic is different and people look for different things. What we premiered at Comic-Con is the exact same thing we aired on the broadcast. At Comic-Con, there was this great buzz and everyone loved it. I think after not seeing it for nine months they were so excited to see something great. I think the season three premiere was an answer to the feedback we received from the fans. They wanted more story, they wanted a faster pace, a lot more action and a lot more focus on the original characters. That’s what we focused on. The writers and the production staff, we all feel that we delivered based on what the fans wanted.

So I don’t know if the critics are bashing for the sake of bashing, maybe it’s just a continued feeling they have from season two. So I’m hoping that as the episodes progress, the show will go back to doing what made it great in season one. I think season three is headed towards having people seeing it as pure entertainment for the whole family again.

My reaction to season two, I think the writers made bold choices. There were a lot of expectations and the writers decided to go a different route than expected by the fans, to shake things up and make a bold choice. I don’t think the fans reacted the way the writers hoped for. And we make the show for the fans, that’s what’s really important to us. So we took that to heart. The back half of season two was back on pace to what we originally intended. Which is what made season one great with fast storytelling, and a lot of twists and turns. So season three is going back to what the fans wanted.

Are you happy with the season three scripts that you’ve seen so far and with the relationship between Hiro and Daphne?

Yeah, I’m very excited. We’re actually shooting episode twelve already, so we’ve gone pretty far. There are a lot of great shocks, twists and turns. The pacing is overall really fast and has a lot more action, so it’s a lot of fun. With Hiro and Daphne, you know Daphne is kind of like the quintessential nemesis for Hiro. As Batman gets his Joker, Hiro gets Daphne. It’s a joke I use all the time but I see them more like a Wile E. Coyote and the Road Runner scenario, except she says more than meep, meep and doesn’t use as many Acme gadgets. Although you will see Hiro fall on his face a lot.

Do you like the direction the writers are taking Hiro in this season? And how open is the door to the Writers Room for you and the rest of the cast?

The writers are very collaborative. They’re very open to discussing characters and they let you know where you character is going. They’re very collaborative in that sense, very open to it. A lot of it also gets done in the editing as well. You think you shot something and when you actually see it on screen it looks a little different. As an actor, they’re constantly challenging me. Having to balance the drama and the grounded heavy stuff with the light stuff, as an actor I think it’s always challenging. As long as they keep on challenging me, it’s a great learning experience. For me, it’s difficult to find the consistency of course, because you need to drive the plot and move things forward. At the same time the character action gets compromised because of that. We are slaves to the plot. So if the plot dictates that we do something, sometimes we have to change what the characters do. For me, I’m watching the first two episodes and I’m like, Hiro you’re so stupid, why are you defying you Father’s orders and doing that? But we needed that for the plot, so it makes sense.

As Hiro goes on more adventures and experiences tragedy in his life, is it hard to strike the balance between the enthusiastic person we saw in the beginning of the series, and who Hiro is now, with out it seeming too forced or unnatural?

Oh, absolutely. I think there is an important balance to have and the writers are very conscience of that. That’s what makes Hiro great, his enthusiasm. One thing we know about Hiro is that he’s always going to be pure. No matter what it is he’s going to do, what he feels is right in terms of saving the world. So his naivete may have gone away because of all the tragedy he’s experienced, but his purity and his sense of morality will always stay the same. So that’s something we’ll see along with his childlike sensibility. There will always be some sense of wonderment. We’ll see him go to various locations and he’ll find some wonderful discover where ever he goes.

Also, the writers have actually come up with a very creative way of finding the rediscovering of the power and we’ll see that later on in the season. It’s definitely difficult to balance Hiro’s storyline. Hiro and Ando have always been the comic relief. We want to make sure that we have some of that entertainment and fun side, light side of saving the world to balance the dark tone of the rest of the storyline.

What type of challenges has this season offered you as an actor? Has there been more stunt work?

There’s definitely a lot more stunt work. It’s a lot of fun being put in a harness and walking in the air, I feel like Mary Poppins. It’s definitely fun. I think on these issues, also I try to engage where it is appropriate, in terms of putting in that humor. That’s where I rely on the directors and writers to kind of say, you know, that’s a little bit too much, that’s grounded but probably inappropriate here. Also, the level of English that Hiro has mastered because I don’t want him to be completely masterful of English. We want him to have room to grow, but at the same time, time has progressed. Hiro’s timeline is so out of whack. Hiro’s biological time hasn’t moved as far, even if he’s gone to feudal Japan and back, for him it’s still been three weeks or a month. Keeping that continuity is the difficult part.

What will happen the next time that Hiro meets Adam Monroe?

I think the promos have already given away that Adam Monroe will be coming back. So we know that he’ll be coming back. How? Why? Well that we don’t know yet. That one I probably can’t spill too much of. There will be a Hiro [vs.] Adam Monroe round three, that much I can say.

Will you be using your sword this season?

I haven’t used my sword yet. Hopefully there will be more opportunity to use it. As of now there is no swordplay.

Now that Sylar is working for Angela Petrelli and the Company, will we be seeing Hiro face-off with him any time soon?

They’ll be a lot of face-offs this season. Not just with Sylar but a lot of villains vs. heroes, heroes vs. heroes and villains vs. villains. Match-ups you don’t expect, you’ll definitely see.

What has Hiro’s sister been doing since we last saw her, will we be seeing Hiro’s Mother at any point and how important is the role of family in Hiro’s life?

Yes, family is always important to Hiro. There are so many things but the most important thing to Hiro is definitely his family, Ando’s friendship and of course being a hero and saving the world. That’s what his family has taught him. His father in particular, and his Mother taught him the values of being a good person, a good servant to civilization and sacrificing himself for the world. He dos not have his Father there to give him advice but fortunately we saw that advise come through a DVD (in the premiere). We might still see various fatherly advise come from his father, kind of like how Obi-Won came back in “Return Of The Jedi.”

To be honest with you, I don’t know what Hiro’s sister is doing. I would presume she’s very busy running the company. Hiro’s the CEO and I think she’s the President and is actually the day-to-day hands on person. So we haven’t seen her yet but we will see Hiro’s Mother. When? I don’t know? It may be season six but we will see Hiro’s mother.

Hiro’s had a love interest each of the last two seasons. Is he going to have one this year?

We don’t know yet, I mean that’s always up in the air. Personally, as a fan, I kind of like Hiro and Charlie’s love story and just want to leave it at that. In some senses having him fall for Yaeko right afterwards [was too fast] because in Hiro’s biological timeline it was literally two weeks after Charlie’s death, when Hiro spent six months with Charlie. So I think that love story is something that is pure and I don’t think we want to compound on that too much. That being said, you never know what’s going to happen. There could be a love story up ahead for Hiro. We don’t know. Everything is kind of up in the air. Ultimately, if there were an end for Hiro, my poetic ending for him would be to have him live in an infinite time loop. Living his time with Charlie over and over and over again. There’s definitely something sweet about that love story. I think it’s very hard to top that.

Many characters on the show have developed their powers in new and unusual ways. Will that happen to Hiro this season?

The writers are definitely very creative about how Hiro uses his power. It’s a very strong power, you know. Theoretically, Hiro could go back in time and fix everything. It’s very difficult in terms of plot devise. Okay, Daphne stole the paper, why doesn’t Hiro go back five minutes earlier and make sure he doesn’t have it? There’s always ways around it, unfortunately. We’re pretty much at a point where Hiro doesn’t go back into the past because he knows that he’s going to destroy the time-space continuum and something bad will happen.

In terms of powering up, I don’t know how much more Hiro can really power up teleportation and time-travel. I think he can become more accurate with his time travel now. So that’s definitely something. With the teleportation maybe he’ll go further. Just having more control over them. There might be a couple of things that are different in terms of how he uses his powers. Maybe he can do a dimensional warp? Maybe we could have Hiro transport to Mars or something? That’ll be season four.

This season is called “Villains.” What would you do if Hiro ever went bad?

I’d go knock some sense into Hiro. I think Hiro’s very pure. The naivete has gone away. He’ll do what he believes is right. Sometimes what he believes may not be the right thing. I would think that he’s very susceptible to a lot of things and gullible. But he would never do anything that is morally wrong in his mind. He follows the basic conduct of heroism. He goes by the bible of the comic book. That being said, we’ve seen what happens to those heroes that have gone to the dark side. It’s interesting because villain and hero are very relative terms. What is good and what is evil? In the villains mind, what the good people do is evil. From societies perspective it’s clear to see what’s good and what’s villain. From the villain’s perspective it is very different, how they see the world. It’s an interesting moral question. I have faith in Hiro that he’s always going to be in his heart a good guy, no matter what he does.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18265

And the whole story of Hiro is just so flawed, the guy can travel into the future but he can't stop a girl from taking one half of that formula thing? WTF? have the writers forgotten what he's capable of? He's like pretty much able to do whatever he wants with his ability.

Yeah, that shit was just fucking stupid. It would be understandable if Hiro didn't wanna go back in time for some small thing but losing that formula could destroy the whole world. It doesn't make any sense that Hiro would rather risk the future of the whole world than travel 5 minutes back in time.

I really hate it how the writers are 'dumbing down' some of the most powerful characters of the show. Hiro has been one of my favorite characters since Season 1 but if the writers don't let him use his powers then they might as well kill him off. Right now Hiro is pretty much as retarded as Peter in Season 2 

[Saburo]

Masi Oka talks Heroes Season Three

. . . we will see Hiro’s Mother. When? I don’t know? It may be season six but we will see Hiro’s mother.

Right now, I nominate: Shihomi Etsuko



It will NEVER happen but a guy's gotta dream...

[Tuffty]

I really hate it how the writers are 'dumbing down' some of the most powerful characters of the show. Hiro has been one of my favorite characters since Season 1 but if the writers don't let him use his powers then they might as well kill him off. Right now Hiro is pretty much as retarded as Peter in Season 2 

That's a problem I've had with the show. Some characters are ridiculously overpowered - like Peter and with the healing abilities of Claire's blood and Hiro's time travel, none of the characters could ever really be in danger.

[THUNDERDUCK]

I hate that Hiro is like comic relief/ or a punchline.  The show has to get back on track and all of the time travel stuff is getting...bleh.  Also Mohinder is starting to irk me.  I think he screwed up more than Hiro has.

[Tuffty]

What the? I thought these new villians were meant to be 'worse than Syler'. Instead 2 die in the first batch of episodes? Hope they're not the only ones or things could be quite dull indeed.

[reina's eyes]

The problem is the writers have no more clue than anyone else what the plot is. Literally.

From what I read a while back, they're writing and (more importantly) thinking only a little ahead. Enthusiastic monkeys with a keyboard. And a big budget enabling a slick production.

And hayden. ;-)

[THUNDERDUCK]

So it is revealed that some people have manufactured powers and some were born that way, sounds like that old X-Men storyline written by Grant Morrison

[frblckstr1]

Wake me up where there is some good shots of Hayden or Kristen 

[MochaNutz]

HEROES Spoilers! ^___^

Just saw episode 5. i think its 5.

How did Maury escape?  I found it weird how "Lindermann" was explaining Matt's powers.

I wasn't surprised with hearing Mr. Petrelli.  Looks like they brought him back to life or someting?

Claire is hot

Black Hole guy was pretty cool.  I think Knox sucks.  Not that great of an actor, but who on the show is? =P His fear power sounds cool, but all he does his open his eyes wide =D

wtf happened to the copycat chick, and The Irish girl Peter left in the future?

[Masa]

I was too lazy to write anything about the previous episode but basically all the future stuff was cool but the present day scenes were forgettable. The latest episode is alright but most importantly the story is finally becoming interesting.


- Hayden just keeps getting hotter 
- The Company vs. Pinehearst could be pretty epic.
- Hiro, Ando & Adam had some funny moments.
- Explanation behind Lindermann's ghost.
- Doyle is fucking creepy.
- Claire finally being badass...


- .....but then she got all emo again.
- Peter turning evil way too fast.
- Sylar being able to control "the hunger" too easily.
- Vortex dude.
- Spider-Mohinder! Maya shoulda killed him when she had a chance.
- Every scene with Angela Petrelli is like straight outta Bold and the Beautiful. Fuck dat soap opera shit!
- Sylar not being able to hear HRG. What happened to his super hearing?

Episode #6 preview


Evil-Peter vs. Goodie Two Shoes Sylar will be interesting.....

wtf happened to the copycat chick

Nobody cares about the Irish chick but this is what happened to Monica:

PW: The last we saw Monica, she had caused Niki (Ali Larter) to “die,” when does the season premiere pick up?
Dana: We pick up right there.

PW: Do you play a large part in season three?
Dana: Well, I would just say to fans of Monica’s, I don’t want to disappoint them, but her storyline wraps up fairly quickly.

PW: Why?
Dana: “Heroes” didn’t get the same critical or fan acclaim in season two, so I think the creators felt a lot of pressure because the ratings dropped and it wasn’t nominated for any Emmys. And with the strike, I feel like the writers had a lot of time to sit around and think. They wanted to come back really strong and go back to what the show was in season one - less drama, more action. And they took it in a different direction that didn’t really include Monica.

PW: That’s terrible, I thought there was a lot of potential there.
Dana: Yeah, me too. I loved the character and I love the power - but I totally understand and it makes a lot of sense knowing where the story goes.

PW: And heroes return all the time - it’s a small superpowered world!
Dana: Absolutely! Tim Kring [creator] and I have talked about that, you never know when I’ll show up again!

http://www.heroestheseries.com/season-3-surprise-say-goodbye-to-monica/

Edit: The official site of the Pinehearst Company: http://www.pinehearstresearch.com/

I'm gonna send 'em my CV! 

[Ayabie]

Ando better not be dead.