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12 Year Old Arrested For Opening Christmas Present Early
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2006, 09:52:58 PM »
@ reyfer - Kudos to your mom for raising you on her own, but to compare your situation to the one in the article isn't exactly accurate. It can't be because the circumstances your family is/was in is hardly the same as the one that the family in the article was in, unless you and your sister shoplifted, assaulted cops, and came on the verge of getting expelled from school the way this kid was.


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I think she needs to get some parenting skills and get control of her son and if she can't handle it she needs to get professional help. There are millions and millions of single mothers with troubled kids in this world. I'm saying, it seems pathetic to me that she feels the need to *call the cops* to get control over her son. She is responsible for her sons actions as the parent.
Of course she's responsible, however that doesn't mean that she has to do this all alone. There are situations and there are times where a parent can do everything within their power to be a good parent, yet the kid still refuses to listen and still acts out in a negative manner.

Good parenting helps, but unfortunately it doesn't always work. People aren't born knowing good parenting skills by instinct. It's a learning process that people have to go through. Some will be able to pull it off and some won't.  Professional help (like child psychologists and family counselors) can often be beneficial, but they don't always work either. People need to stop thinking of it as a "solution" that can guarantee success. It isn't a solution. It's only an option, and options don't always work.  I hate to say it, but as cynical as this sounds, there ARE kids who are/can be that bad. There ARE kids who will reject any/all types of authority, will reject any form of counseling, who refuse think of no one but themselves.  For those kids, sometimes they need a big, harsh wake up call, like getting arrested, before they can begin to turn their lives around. Hell, we've seen hundreds of these types of kids go on those talk shows like Maury or Montel Williams. They go on, swear at the audience, then get "scared straight" by going to boot camp and/or visiting a real prison and talking to real inmates. Who knows? Maybe the mom should be calling Maury instead of calling the cops.


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Bad kid and bad parenting... I just hope that kid never reproduces to continue the cycle as it seems to be getting worse with every generation >_>

You can't just blame everything on the mother. She wasn't ready for this kid. And there must be plenty of factors that turned their situation this way. The mother doesn't know what to do so she calls the cops on him. Many people don't really want to seek help, because they want to believe that they could solve all their problems themselves even if what they're doing might be the wrong thing. I commend her for at least trying something, as some parents just let their kids run around in the streets.
SITS says it well here. She may not have the best parenting skills in the world, but at least she's doing something.

A parent who ignores his/her kid and lets them get away with anything/everything is, without a doubt, a bad parent. However if a parent is genuinely trying, like this woman appears to have been, but is not having any success, it's hardly fair to blame them and call them a bad parent.  After all, there's no book or set of instructions that state what must be done to be a good parent. Most people just muddle along as they go. Most are able to do a good job. Some, however, just have nothing but troubles; just because they do doesn't invalidate the effort they're putting forth nor does it make them bad parents, just unlucky ones.

So often society will automatically blame the parent(s), and ONLY the parent(s), thus giving the impression that the child(-ren) are at no fault at all. If a kid willlingly shoplifts and punches a police officer, it's clear that there's something up with the kid. The fact that the parent is having trouble handling/dealing with it isn't just the fault of the parent, the kid is equally at fault. There needs to be as much onus and responsibility put on the kid as there is placed on the parent.  Just as the parent has to be actively involved, the kid has to be willing listen and to change his/her negative behaviour. From what we've seen in the article, this particular kid just refused to listen and doesn't want to change his behaviour.  If people are going to say the mom is a bad parent, be fair and put as much blame on the kid too, because he clearly deserves it.  To do the stuff that he's done, to act the way that he's been acting, without showing any remorse whatsoever...there's no way that he's the sole victim here and there's no way that it's solely the fault of his mom.

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12 Year Old Arrested For Opening Christmas Present Early
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2006, 08:29:29 AM »
What ? That is not a crime or an act that is againest the law!!! What rights do the police have to arrest that boy?

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« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2006, 06:32:35 PM »
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What ? That is not a crime or an act that is againest the law!!! What rights do the police have to arrest that boy?

have you considered reading the previous posts?

then you will understand this story a whole lot more...

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