Author Topic: wiki.theppn.org - down? out? (Read 11667 times)

sayumi_fan · « **on:** January 24, 2007, 09:44:15 PM »

The excellent wiki at http://wiki.theppn.org which includes heaps of H!P info seems to have been down for several days. Does anyone know what the problem is? Has it been taken down altogether?

I see that the forum where I first learned about wiki.theppn (Morning Musume BBS) seems to have closed down and the link redirects to the Japanese section of US YesAsia. Hmmmm... I hope that never happens to JPHiP !!!

Angelus · « **Reply #1 on:** January 24, 2007, 09:54:02 PM »

Hum. I seen it's been down recently too. It sucks, I usually go there to find single/albums tracklists, and now I gotta look at other places that haven't updated in a while. =/

freya86 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 24, 2007, 10:01:15 PM »

I know they mentioned something about problems with pictures that had recently been uploaded, and that was a few days ago, maybe Sunday/Monday.

But I don't know if that's really the reason why the site is down now.

SacredCultivator · « **Reply #3 on:** January 24, 2007, 10:04:42 PM »

Pretty much anytime you can't access it, assume it is down, and not your end.

~Dan~ · « **Reply #4 on:** January 24, 2007, 10:50:06 PM »

It was ok a few days ago, although I noticed a problem with the pictures (I had to re-upload a picture for the flets page which had become a dead link). Theppn forum is still working so it's not the host that's at fault. Nobodys posted about it there yet so I just posted something asking what's happened to the wiki.

StreakInTheSky · « **Reply #5 on:** January 24, 2007, 11:04:24 PM »

It always seems to be down like every other time I try to use it.

JFC · « **Reply #6 on:** January 25, 2007, 01:55:43 AM »

Quote from: sayumi_fan;292213

I see that the forum where I first learned about wiki.theppn (Morning Musume BBS) seems to have closed down and the link redirects to the Japanese section of US YesAsia. Hmmmm... I hope that never happens to JPHiP !!!

MM-BBS isn't down. They just changed their URL, it now ends with " .org " whereas before it was " .com ".

Guchi_Jnr · « **Reply #7 on:** January 25, 2007, 01:28:03 PM »

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Theppn forum is still working so it's not the host that's at fault.

I always thought Womby was hosting the wiki separately to the forum.

RatBastich · « **Reply #8 on:** January 25, 2007, 05:10:07 PM »

Here's hoping that it won't be down for too long.
Like most, I tend to rely on the wiki for track lists.

sayumi_fan · « **Reply #9 on:** January 25, 2007, 10:31:02 PM »

Quote from: ~Dan~;292288

Nobodys posted about it there yet so I just posted something asking what's happened to the wiki.

I found your post, ~Dan~ ... no-one has replied yet though.

Quote from: StreakInTheSky;292301

It always seems to be down like every other time I try to use it.

So it's often down? Weirdly, I have never encountered it down before, so I'm not used to that. Just been lucky in the past, I guess. But is it usually down for this long? Been about 4 days now...

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I always thought Womby was hosting the wiki separately to the forum.

Is anyone in contact with Womby? I see he's an admin on that board - maybe if someone knows him enough to ask.... ? Seems a lot of people rely on this wiki so much - maybe it's worth suggesting that the whole content be inserted into the main English Wikipedia, over time?

Quote from: JFC;292461

MM-BBS isn't down. They just changed their URL, it now ends with " .org " whereas before it was " .com ".

Thanks for that info! I assumed it had just gone. I used to spend some time there, but when I found JPHiP I guess my limited online time got refocused; but those guys helped me a heap in my early JPHiP days. I just went back and it seems they have cleaned it out a lot - all the old stuff and even my log-in was gone (guess I hadn't posted there in a long time)

~Dan~ · « **Reply #10 on:** January 26, 2007, 02:23:48 AM »

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maybe it's worth suggesting that the whole content be inserted into the main English Wikipedia, over time?

LOL good luck in trying. Wikipedia seems a bit strict.

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all the old stuff and even my log-in was gone (guess I hadn't posted there in a long time)

Everyone had to re-register pretty recently when it started on the new domain.

sayumi_fan · « **Reply #11 on:** February 02, 2007, 10:18:10 AM »

An answer at last!

At last, I have some information about this: maybe it's already old news and has been posted elsewhere, but in case not...

DarkScorpion on mm-bbs.org has recently posted a very complete explanation of why wiki.theppn.org and also (in case anyone hasn't noticed) the projecthello lyrics site are down at present, and have been for a while. The post is right here but for those who just want the main points, it seems there were a series of crashes and HDD related issues combined with an ISP being down for a while; it seems that most of everything was saved (with the exception of the images off the wiki, apparently) and will be brought back eventually - but it doesn't sound like it will be quick. Just feel sorry for those guys working on it, and thankful that they can be bothered. By the way, for some amusement, check out the next post in the thread, as a response to DarkScorpion's final paragraph.

Masabi · « **Reply #12 on:** February 02, 2007, 10:21:26 AM »

^ Yeah I recognized that projecthello.com was down, it was really pissing me off because I had to find Karaoke lyrics elsewhere >___<

sayumi_fan · « **Reply #13 on:** February 02, 2007, 01:23:16 PM »

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I had to find Karaoke lyrics elsewhere >___<

I have mentioned a couple of other lyrics sites I discovered in a post here - only the first has a lot of H!P though; the second seems to be quite new though growing, and is mainly other JPop.

Masabi · « **Reply #14 on:** February 02, 2007, 01:41:27 PM »

^ I had discovered Kiwi-musume through a friend a few days ago but I didn't have the second link. thanks!

~Dan~ · « **Reply #15 on:** February 02, 2007, 09:03:34 PM »

Quote from: Gray;299379

^ Yeah I recognized that projecthello.com was down, it was really pissing me off because I had to find Karaoke lyrics elsewhere >___<

When I wanna look something up on the wiki, I've found anything I wanna look up is cached on google, so maybe you can get projecthello pages the same way.

RatBastich · « **Reply #16 on:** February 02, 2007, 10:10:00 PM »

Any recent news as to when the wiki might possibly return?

sayumi_fan · « **Reply #17 on:** February 02, 2007, 10:27:16 PM »

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When I wanna look something up on the wiki, I've found anything I wanna look up is cached on google, so maybe you can get projecthello pages the same way.

Hey, I shoulda known I was gonna learn something today. Google cache? Never heard of it before... yet there it is clearly displayed on every damn search I do. Thanks, man, that is SO helpful! A bit fiddly to go around the links, but it can be done... So - great!!!!

~Dan~ · « **Reply #18 on:** February 02, 2007, 10:43:49 PM »

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Hey, I shoulda known I was gonna learn something today. Google cache? Never heard of it before... yet there it is clearly displayed on every damn search I do. Thanks, man, that is SO helpful! A bit fiddly to go around the links, but it can be done... So - great!!!!

Sometimes it takes quite a few searches to find the correct search terms to get the page you're looking for.

I often view the cached page even when a site isn't offline because google highlights the text you're searching for so it makes it easy to find if you're looking at a big page with a lot of text. Sometimes the site I'm looking for is so damn slow I can't be bothered waiting for the page to load and view the cached one instead.

nachdenki · « **Reply #19 on:** February 02, 2007, 10:44:28 PM »

Quote from: sayumi_fan;299750

Hey, I shoulda known I was gonna learn something today. Google cache? Never heard of it before... yet there it is clearly displayed on every damn search I do. Thanks, man, that is SO helpful! A bit fiddly to go around the links, but it can be done... So - great!!!!

I can also recommend archive.org because links are still working there, but it's usually a little more outdated than google's cache ^^;