Quit being cheap! - It's just a fighting game thread

[arun.yothin]

There's already a Street Fighter thread, but this one's for ALL things fighting games. Talk about good ones and bad ones. New ones and old ones. Popular ones and obscure ones. Which ones do you like to play most? Who are your favorite characters? Do you like to play competitively, or just casual? How do you like to play?(Aggressive? Defensive? etc) Feel free to share some match or combo movies as well.

My games/characters
GUILTY GEAR(My favorite!): Slayer
Street Fighter 2 ST: Chun Li, sometimes Guile and Dee Jay
Street Fighter Alpha: Adon, Rolento, Guy
Street Fighter 3: 3S: Elena
Virtua Fighter(when I did play): Aoi

Guilty Gear is the only one I play a lot because I don't know many other who play anything else. I've only played in tournies for GG, but I'm gonna try to start playing 3S seriously. Unfortunately, my friend lost my copy of it a little while ago.

I used to play VF, but then no one I knew played. Now VF5 is out for PS3 and I know people who play, but I have no PS3. If there's an adapter for PS2 controllers for 360, I may have to do that when VF comes out for 360.

[boykun]

I suck at fighting games but I still play them anyway.

Games/Characters
Guilty Gear : Venom, Testament
Street Fighter Alpha : Charlie, Ryu
Street Fighter 3 3S : Makoto, Ryu
King of Fighters : Iori, Athena, Gato, Ryo
Tekken : Kazuya, Steve

I haven't had much experience on 3S. They're hard to find these days. I only get to play it when I go to an arcade about 45 minutes away.

[Ayabie]

Not totally into beat 'em up, but I do get pretty pumped up when I'm playing against friends. Does Super Smash Brothers count?

Super Smash Bros: Link, Ness
SSB Melee: Captain Falcon, Samus
Naruto Narutimate Hero 3: Neji
Dead or Alive 3~: Hitomi, Hayabusa
Street Fighter EX: Skullomania, D. Dark
Street Fighter Alpha: Rolento

There's a few more that I really like but I can't seem to remember the titles.

[arun.yothin]

I've heard some people argue about how Smash isn't a fighting game, but I think it is. I'm horrible at it though. My friends know all kinds of shit to win.


I love fighting games, even the horrible ones.
I remember a few years back I played one called Survival Arts. It came out around the time of MKII and it even had the digitized people. I thought it was cool because you could pick up weapons and then cut people up. I also thought it was cool because the characters looked so big. Yes, I really did think the game was cool for that reason. I played this game a few months ago and was shocked at how horrible it was. I played through the whole game and just couldn't stop laughing at how bad everything was. It's always fun to play games this bad.

Here are some match videos if you'd like to see this game
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BCZR1Ut_bYs

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xd-aVOHiyYs&mode=related&search=

[Tuffty]

I'm a big fan of Virtua Figter 4 : Evolution and Tekken 5. I use Kage and Lee Chaolan, respectively but I haven't played in so long, I've probably lost my touch. VF is the best fighting series I think. People say it's too slow but when you see two experts fighting against each other, they can be the most exciting matches you've seen. Oddly enough, as a fighting fan, I don't play much Street Fighter. When I do though it's always either Ryu or Ken.

[Slack]

Regarding the title of the thread, I'm pretty sure I don't know how NOT to be cheap in fighting games, lol.
 
Take for example in Soul Calibur, I tend to spam the Great Wall move with Xianghua, or in Soul Calibur II, the 3-hit combo with Raphael.  Pisses off my friends to no end.
 
But is this "being cheap" or "being cheesy"?
 
I guess it's my tendency to find a weakness and exploit the hell out of it.

[modesta107]

My favorite fighting game is probably the DOA series, then next would be tekken. But I think they  made a horrible mistake turning DOA into a movie. it was horrible, and most of the characters stories were screwed up. i was just too embaressed to watch it.

[StreakInTheSky]

I suck at all fighting games... though I still like to play them. I never play in the arcade though, as everyone will own me. The fucking computer owns me...

I've been playing them on consoles and stuff since the days of SF and have played just about all the popular series.

My favorite fighiting game series is probably Soul Caliber. Probably cause it's the only one I'm actually alright in Though if Smash Brothers counts I say the two are pretty even. I love that game.

[Slack]

Same, SITS.  Arcades pwn me, computer on higher difficulty pwns me, friends usually pwn me.  Except in the case of the Soul Calibur series, and In SSBM, I can be quite skillful with Roy/Marth at times.
 
I remember the first time I played SFII at someone's house at the age of about 8. The guy who owned the game was surprised I got all the way to Sagat w/ Ryu, even though I didn't know how to hadoken or shoryuken or anything like that.  I just threw the bastards constantly, lol.

[arun.yothin]

Regarding the title of the thread, I'm pretty sure I don't know how NOT to be cheap in fighting games, lol.
 
Take for example in Soul Calibur, I tend to spam the Great Wall move with Xianghua, or in Soul Calibur II, the 3-hit combo with Raphael.  Pisses off my friends to no end.
 
But is this "being cheap" or "being cheesy"?
 
I guess it's my tendency to find a weakness and exploit the hell out of it.

Play to win! Absolutely nothing wrong with exploiting weaknesses or glitches(As long as the glitch doesn't break the whole game).

Nothing is really "cheap". That's just something some people say when they get beat by something over and over again. They think there's not way to beat it, so they claim it's cheap. I've been at anime conventions where some people said that me and some others were cheating because we were using arcade sticks.

I've heard people say "cheese" is just stuff that's annoying, but it wins. Like with Slayer in Guilty Gear. He has a dash punch which he can feint, a throw where he bites the opponent and they become stunned, plus his front and back dashes make him invincible. A lot of times when I'm close I'll mix up the dash punch feint then throw, invincible dash throw, dash in different directions then throw, and the bite throw. I keep doing this until they guess correctly and beat the throw. I used to laugh whenever I would do this to my friends, but then this one guy did the same thing to me. And, damn, that thing is really aggravating.



David Sirlin is a well-known Street Fighter player and game designer. He has a write with his thoughts on game design and competitive play. He talks about different elements of competitive play. I think it's a good read. Here's his site: http://sirlin.net/

[Ericks]

Super Smash Bros has always been one of my all time favourite fighting games and I can't wait for Brawl to come out.

Smash Bros: Jigglypuff
Tekken: Lei Wulong
Naruto Gekitou Ninja Taisen 3: Neji, Gaara
Dead or Alive: Hitomi
Soul Caliber II: Link, Xianghua
Soul Caliber III: Siegfried
Guilty Gear: Ky, Bridget
Street Fighter: Ryu, Chun-Li

[Slack]

That site is an excellent read.  Thanks, arun.yothin!
 
And yeah, looking forward a LOT to Brawl.

[tenkei]

yeah, i suck at fighting games but love to play em!

guilty gear: ky, baiken
SFA: sakura, gouki
3s: gouki (akuma), yang/yun, makoto
KoF: terry bogard, K', Yuri, gato
tekken: Xiaoyu, christie, asuka kazama
smash bros: roy, old link, samus

anyone ever play Rumble Fish? its by Sammy (makers of Guilty Gear) and is pretty badass. me and boy played at the asian arcade we go to. i want a port of that

[boykun]

Here are some match videos if you'd like to see this game
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BCZR1Ut_bYs

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xd-aVOHiyYs&mode=related&search=

Holy shit dude that game looks terrible.

Some more games
Smash Bros. : Ganondorf, Captain Falcon
Soul Calibur : Maxi
Dead or Alive : Ayane, Hitomi

The Rumble Fish is a pretty badass game. You're able to pull off easy combos like in Guilty Gear. Plus its on the Atomiswave, which looks real nice. I haven't played it enough though. Oh, and what about..

Marvel vs. Capcom 2 : Jill, Morrigan, Captain Commando
That game frustrates me.

[Yuna]

I love fighting games. I've been loving them since Street Fighter 2 for SNES.
I can say I'm pretty good at them, I would be a lot better if I trained but some games I just like to play my way.
 
My characters are:
Soul Calibur: Xinghua
DOA: Ayane (I'm playing with her in DOA4 but in previous I played Kasumi)
Tekken: I like Jun from Tekken 2 and Law who is in all Tekkens
Street Fighter: Akuma
Guilty Gear: Millia Rage
Naruto: Itachi (I didn't play this game much, but Itachi has a special move that owns)

[Aioros]

Fighting Games for life!

Before, I preferred playing 2D fighting games like SF and other SNK games. But once I got the hang of Tekken Tag and VF, I realized what fun games I've been missing. I play in the arcade just for fun but it's really embarrassing to lose when a lot of people are watching you so I try to practice if the game is available in console.

SF Series (SNES) = Vega, M.Bison, Sagat (gotta love 'em bosses)
SF Alpha = Guy, Ken
Capcom VS Series = Strider Hiryu, Spiderman
Darkstalkers = John Talbain, Lord Raptor
Mortal Kombat = Scorpion
Fatal Fury = Joe, Terry
KoF = Kyo, Iori,
Rival Schools = Daigo
Guilty Gear (GG1) = Ky, Chipp
Tekken = Mishimas, Lee
Virtua Fighter = Jacky, Akira
Bloody Roar = Long
DoA(1) = Jann Lee
Samurai Showdown = Ukyo, Basara (bust)
Soul Edge = Cerventes

I watch some guys play MvsC2 and they use sick combos like Iron Man and Magneto infinites. I usually check out Guilty Gear matches too. Watching the combos makes me want to try it but I'm not sure if my hand-eye coordination is fit for this game.
 
Before, I saw a bunch of Fist of the North Star match vids on youtube. Apparently, it uses the same engine as Guilty Gear so you can expect some wicked combos and round ending special moves.

Here are some matchvids:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ghBvHSz_xFM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rvYTSPAh-IM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=A01oEvwohMI

I hope this gets a console treatment

[testype01]

I've been playing SF alpha 3 a lot lately and I really like Akuma, Ryu and Adon.

Akuma is great becuase he can attack from almost anywhere in many different ways and his Shun Goku Satsu is just nuts damage. Altough I find playing Akuma a little easy mode compared to other characters of the same style(Ryu, Ken, Sakura).

Ryu hits like a truck but he's a slower than Ken or Akuma so every hit that lands counts more, you can dizzy most any enemy with 6-8 consecutive hits (not including ultimates).

Adon is very funny to play and the fact that he only has 3 moves and 2 ultimates makes him more challenging when comes to combos.

[arun.yothin]

If you like the articles by Sirlin, I recommend his book. A few of the articles on the site are in the book, but he goes in to more detail in the book. Here are some other concepts he writes about:
-tournaments
-cheating
-bannings
-yomi layers(Kind of psychic-like ability. He explains it better:P)
-choosing a game
-More Art of War stuff

He also does a few comparisons to chess and other games. He even profiles some chess players and video game players and their play styles.

I saw some vids of Rumble Fish and I really wanted to play it, but couldn't play imports at that time. There was one character who looked really cool. She(?) could set points on screen, and when there were two points, you could make a laser go between them. A second one came out, but I don't know if it came out on console.

Hokuto no Ken looked cool. I heard a lot of people complaining about how broke it was. There were some crazy 100% damage combos and I think I remember hearing that someone had an instant kill they could do anywhere on screen. I don't know though, I would still like to play it. It supposed to be scheduled for PS2 release in March.
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-40-49-en-70-1s1p.html


Other games I play
CvS2: Kim(2), Cammy(2) Probably S Groove or something. I don't play it that much, and I can't roll cancel so I don't use C.
Tekken: Bruce (I try to play, but I suck)
Melty Blood: Len(Only 'cause of the catsXD)

I used to have a drawing that was a mock up of MvC3's buttons. All it was, was a stick, 4 buttons label "Advanced Skill", and a big ass button that said "MASH".
I've actually thought about trying to play it, but I usually forget shortly after.

[tenkei]

Oh, and what about..

Marvel vs. Capcom 2 : Jill, Morrigan, Captain Commando
That game frustrates me.

MvC2 is a fucken glitchbox! playing against cable or magneto is fucken ghey... ironman too. hate that game D: i dont even remember who i use

[Ayabie]

Anyone interested in Little Fighter?

http://lf2.net/

Woody for the win!