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HiP Nation => Classic H!P => Classic Threads => The Ultra Maki Addicts Inc. => Topic started by: tamatron on October 28, 2007, 10:18:37 AM
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http://www.nikkansports.com/entertainment/f-et-tp0-20071028-275884.html
I'm still trying to read it. :P If anyone can translate, please do. :)
Is it just because of her bro??
Oh, so it's really because of her brother. She said she'd still continue her solo career...with what label though??
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Holy Fcuk !!!
yeah .... it said it's because of her bro .... she'll continue to work solo (.... where ?!)
someone please translate the whole thing (I don't trust my Japanese ... )
EDIT : pls no bashing , ok ?
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:cry:
I hope she can move to another better company who can help her career in the future.... HP has been really crappy these days..... even Sonim's (in a group called TOMBOY) new single PV is like 100X better than anyone HP released in the past 3 years? All soloists' works sucked, MM's recent works sucked too. WTF HP. Please diaf.
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*Surprised*
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I don't really know what to say, but Im not happy about it >_<
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fact :
Morning Musume Tanjou 10nen Kinentai
- 3 out of 5 members has gotten in "trouble" this year.....
MM10 curse ?!
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Nikkansports.com is writting that it is an announcement from the office Goto Maki belongs to. She will graduate from Hello! Project, but will continue her solo carreer. Not much else is in the news report.
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OMG X___________X :mon cry: :mon waterworks:
but she will now be able to have a life~
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H!P is dying :mon cry:
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OH MY GOD.
Is this 100% legit?
COME AVEX, NOW'S YOUR TIME, SIGN GOCCHIN!
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Pretty shocking. I think Gocchin could benefit from this though..
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Holy crap.
Is it really because of her brother...? So yeah, he's a stupid thief, but why won't she just stay quite for a couple of weeks and then continue with her career when the controversy has died? Why graduate all of the sudden?
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wow...shock.
Didn't see this coming at all, but I guess if she's still continueing her solo career then does that mean she's still working with Tsunku just not under H!P???
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yeah, probably still under Tsunku .... just not under H!P
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Dang...this means we won't be able to see her in H!P concerts anymore...
On the positive side, I think it may have a positive effect on her career, depending on how things go. She doesn't really belong in H!P as she is now (even though I really liked seeing all the OGs in MM coming back to perform in H!P concerts...oh well...), so I guess, yay for her getting a new breath of life?
But of course, it could kill her career. It really depends on what happens after I suppose.
In any case, good luck Gocchin!
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wow this was so blindspotted...
man...but hopefully the goods over weigh the bads :yep:
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That's really sad. Personal feelings about Maki set aside, it really blows that she has to quit H!P because of her brother. I hope she gets signed on to a stellar label then and shows everyone!
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:gyaaah:
Maki was one of the first girls I noticed when I became a Morning Musume fan last year.
Love, Charmy
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OK, well that's the saddest news ever. Other membres' graduations (like yossie, nono or kaori) didn't really hurt me, but Maki's graduation?! WTF? This is so sad :cry: I think I'll never accustom don't see her in concerts, in UFA's photos, in photobooks, with other H!P members or anything else.
H!P is in a bad time, now that a lot of member had gone, and that Wonderful Hearts is only MM, Berryz and °C-ute. What about Melon Kinenebi, Ayaya, BIYUDEN ? Seems like they aren't any elder famous members, Maki was the only one, and the best showgirl I've ever seen. I don't know how H!P wil come back to the top, with only MM (who don't sell so much), °C-ute or Kusumi-The-Miracle.
Anyway, I will miss Maki so much, I love her :heart:
Hope she will have soon a new and better career than UFA's one, with real videoclips, promos and concerts.
'Cause she is the best.
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no way.
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http://www.hello-online.org/index.php?act=helloonline&CODE=news&topic=145
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Oh snap! That's such a shock. It's sad to see her leave H!P because of stupid shit someone else did. Hope she gets just as much as, if not more, exposure than ever with a new label!
Hope you'll find hapiness and success with your continued career Maki. :heart:
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Oh my god !!
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I am in total shock right now, but at least her career shall continue. May lose the sexy image which may make her happier too. Not that I didn't mind it :wub:
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http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20071028-00000211-sph-ent
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May lose the sexy image
I doubt that, if anything they'll probably bring that forward more I reckon.
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Maki was stuck in a place where she couldn't go any further. Let's hope that now she'll be able to shine like the star she is.
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this is unfair!!! now i'm gonna hold on my MAKIRA mp3 like it was life, cause i don't know when she's gonna do such thing again.
i think i'll miss her a little :~
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omg, I totally called this about 2 weeks ago.
Honestly, I think this was planned before the crap with her brother and this is why she wasn't on the schedule for the winter concert.
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Wow. I wonder what company she is going to.
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Thanks alot Yuukiiiii. lol.
no but for real, I'm going to miss her from H!P, so sad. Wonder where she's going now
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I actually think this is positive, it seems like a personal decision and we will still be able to see her in showbiz, looks like it was an agreement with UFA too, so I don't think it'll be that bad for the company.
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What a year. Sad to see another one go.
ごっちんそうさまでした。
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ごっちんそうさまでした。
A chance to try out my new Japanese skills.. Gocchin Sousama deshita?
I never know where a word ends or starts.. and I still don't know the meaning haha. I only just started so it's ok.
Anyway, Gocchin will turn out fine. Hopefully a new label can boost her sales and stuff.
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ごっちんそうさまでした。
A chance to try out my new Japanese skills.. Gocchin Sousama deshita?
I never now where a word ends or starts.. and I still don't know the meaning haha. I only just started so it's ok.
I think Ayabie's making a pun on the phrase "gouchisousama deshita" that's said after eating. :D
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This is really sad :cry:
I agree with Almond, it's really suspicious that she was going to be absent of the elder concert, now I'm positive that this was the reason, it was already planned. That also explains the shitty promotion her How to use SEXY album got, and it was her best work (damn, it was H!P's best album ever), they just ignored her since she was already leaving....
It's sad that one of H!P's emblematic artists is leaving, I'll still support her ofc, but there's a big void in H!P right now, it'll still survive, specially because of Morning Musume C-ute and Berryz, which still sell decent numbers and have successful concerts and merchandise sells, but the elder concerts are really weakened now...
Anyway, I hope the goddess gets a really successful career wherever she goes, all my :heart: to you.
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oh HELLLLLL No....
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I just notice something .....
Sayaka is Maki's mentor and Maki is Aibon's mentor. All three are no longer in H!P
Kaori is Nono's mentor. Both got pregnant XD
like mentor like student ??
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^hahaha that's quite funny!!
Anyway after reading the H!O report I look forward to seeing what direction her music will take since it's now gonna go in the direction she wants.
good luck to her!
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:cry: noooo :cry: Still in complete shock...
Good luck, Gocchin! Never forget you :heart:
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i was wondering... before i know anything or Morning Musume or Hello! Project, which was on December of 2006, did anything sad or bad happened???
because it seems that once i know about MM and H!P, a lot of really sad and bad things seem to happen. Like now, Goto graduating, and Mikitty leaving....
... well this is sad to me, because she and Nacchi were the first two that amazed me and got me into liking Morning Musume and Hello! Project. During the Renai Revolution PV, they were the first two i recognized... but i hope that she will do better with another company because H!P is just have too many solo artists and groups to help Goto...
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doesnt really matter to me i told mself be4 if gocchin ever leave hp, ill just leave with her, i wont stop being her fan just becoz she is no longer a hp girl. :P i will keep supporting her where ever she go ^O^ but the problem is should i still watch hp stuff after gocchin left? coz i kinda fell in luv with berryz right now, hard decision :inlove:
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@ Almond, ah I see :) thanks for the explanation.
Btw, does this mean the UMAI will be moved to the J-Music Zone?
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Wow. This is one of the fastest growing threads ever.
Anyway, like everyone else, I'm pretty shocked. It does seem like an odd reason to leave (I mean, I know supposedly she doesn't want to go the direction H!P was taking her, but throwing her brother's idiocy in there is just weird), especially since she was already not going to be in the OG concert. It also seems weird that she had no real graduation concert. It's not like SHE was involved in a scandal. It seems really odd that they would make her come out and be like "Oh, by the way, this is my last H!P concert. Bye!"
But I'll definitely still continue to support Gocchin because she's super talented. I'm sure she will do well for herself if she signs to a decent label. It will also be interesting if she releases a single now on the same day as H!P. Oh the competition!
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yeah, it's fishy
she's trying to make up an excuse to change company ??
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Maybe whoever she goes to will promote her properly and give her a better chance at becoming a bigger solo artist than she currently is.
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i was wondering... before i know anything or Morning Musume or Hello! Project, which was on December of 2006, did anything sad or bad happened???
Everyone once in a while, not every other month like this year. :-\
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Sound clip of her announcing her graduation (courtesy of H!O) * Download (http://www.mediafire.com/?b4mbjk1ge1t) *
The crowd reaction has to be the biggest "EHHHHHH?!!?" I've ever heard lol
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Wow. Thats a bit of a shock! I will continue to support her wherever she goes though.
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o_0!!!! i'm gonna miss her in the h!p concerts!!! :cry:
i think h!p's falling apart,,,this is the most crucial year for them (my POV)
= aibon's expulsion,,,nacci's accident,,,miki quitting momusu,,,and now gocchin is quitting h!p because of his "cable guy" bro,,,(tell me if i missed something,)=
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Wow :shocked: Good luck to Maki, I hope everything turns out okay for her!
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lol funny, I think this is the best year H!P has had since I became a fan (2004) :lol:
It's the only year when I've loved every Momusu single, loved random groups (Ongaku Gatas, Buono) among other things...
but maybe that's just me :P Scandals can't bring me down... I believe in the new generation... (The Golden Era members may keep screwing up as much as they like; H!P is no longer dependent on them and I wish more people realized this)
With that being said, good luck to Gocchin & I wish her all the best.
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What the hell is going on... I still cannot go out of the impression.. really do not what to say.. Gocchin is the reason why I got involved in all this.. Ok.. I'll first take a breath.. will go to have some breakfast.. will think a bit about it.. and then I'll come back to say something..
My Goddess.. She's my Goddess..
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What bull. I can't believe this. All the good people are going! H!P is too too strict. well I only have V-U-Den, Koharu & Yuko now. If they leave I'm done with HelloP for good. maybe somebody will create a new label & take up all HP's oldies but will less strict rules & they can write their own songs & come up with thier own style. I think 10 year is long enough. Tsunkshould give Up & strat working with boys. Or maybe boys & girls.
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HOW WILL SHE SUPPORT ALL THOSE DOGS SHE KEEPS GETTING??? :cry:
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HOW WILL SHE SUPPORT ALL THOSE DOGS SHE KEEPS GETTING??? :cry:
LOL. NOW THAT'S THE STORY I WANT TO BE READING ABOUT. CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR AWESOME, BTW :O
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lol funny, I think this is the best year H!P has had since I became a fan (2004) :lol:
It's the only year when I've loved every Momusu single, loved random groups (Ongaku Gatas, Buono) among other things...
but maybe that's just me :P Scandals can't bring me down... I believe in the new generation... (The Golden Era members may keep screwing up as much as they like; H!P is no longer dependent on them and I wish more people realized this)
With that being said, good luck to Gocchin & I wish her all the best.
Concur.
Speaking of which can we get hold of the Buono song now?
And back on topic:
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http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20071028-00000924-san-ent
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20071027-00000010-oric-ent
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I will still suport her :)
still i am sad...BUT I think that when she works at a new label she could more chances ^__~
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As has been mentioned already by others, I personally had a feeling something like this would happen when they announced that she wasn't going to be in the upcoming Winter Tour. The thing with her brother probably just sped up the process (i.e. she was probably going to graduate during the 2008 spring or summer tours, but with Yuki's arrest, they just decided it'd be better to quickly get it done instead of stretching it out).
As for her future, I'm surprised no one has yet gone all..."TSUNKU SIGN HER TO TNX!!!" :O
*JFC hopes that Maki's leaving H!P doens't lead to arian and other Maki-fans here leaving JPH!P. :cryface:
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I think her brother's thing is just the last straw, it does seem a little too sudden though.
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WHOA. Fuckin what the fuck. Spend all my time watching World Series and this happens? :tama-mad:
As for her future, I'm surprised no one has yet gone all..."TSUNKU SIGN HER TO TNX!!!" :O
Dude is dat an option? then TSUNKU SIGN HER TO TNX!!! :yep:
*JFC hopes that Maki's leaving H!P doens't lead to arian and other Maki-fans here leaving JPH!P. :cryface:
Holy me feelings too. I haven't heard much from ....... :cry:
I got your backs Gocchin fans! Once a Hello!Project member, ALWAYS a Hello!Project member thus I dun think it's necessary to move UMAI. :pimp:
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I believe in the new generation... (The Golden Era members may keep screwing up as much as they like; H!P is no longer dependent on them and I wish more people realized this)
Deserves to be quoted.
Nothing against Golden Era members, but seriously. H!P will do fine without Maki and Maki will do fine without H!P.
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So it goes...
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lol, firstly, Maki didn't screw up, her brother did. And I think people are more likely to notice if Golden Era members screw up, since nobody really pays much attention to the new blood anyway.
But FUCK. :( With Maki graduating, there goes my chances of ever seeing her in another concert with Berryz ever again.
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H!P is leaving Goto.
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I can't be happy until I hear what label she is on.
Gocchin was H!P to me, now she's gone and I don't know what to think now. :cry:
510 forever, show your support!
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People keep saying Avex, but I do not want her to touch Avex. Avex doesn't treat their people any better then UFA or JE. I'd prefer Maki to sign with someone like Sony who carries Crystal Kay and what not. Sony is more respectful and let's their artists embrace their music more. They give you more time and handle scheduling better, plus scandals don't seem to be a problem with them. Maki said her real desire is to continue singing and taking it in the direction that she wants so Sony makes sense. Sony will also give her a chance to breakout to America (if she wants to) like Crystal Kay wants too or even collab. with some big names. It's a gateway that makes sense for her.
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I agree, all record companies are the devil, they don't care for the artists, all they want is money. Look for any article in the horrible world of the big 4 record companies and you'll see how they destroyed artists and the like. I just hope her career gets boosted, and she gets the proper marketing and care a talented artist as her deserves.
She's got the voice and the looks, she's a great performer and dancer, she's a hard worker, she can triumph wherever she goes, but she needs support, the industry is all about image and making trends, so she needs inteligent management.
@Adamu, can I use your sig? I'll always support maki... :cry:
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People keep saying Avex, but I do not want her to touch Avex. Avex doesn't treat their people any better then UFA or JE. I'd prefer Maki to sign with someone like Sony who carries Crystal Kay and what not. Sony is more respectful and let's their artists embrace their music more. They give you more time and handle scheduling better, plus scandals don't seem to be a problem with them. Maki said her real desire is to continue singing and taking it in the direction that she wants so Sony makes sense. Sony will also give her a chance to breakout to America (if she wants to) like Crystal Kay wants too or even collab. with some big names. It's a gateway that makes sense for her.
I was discussing this with my friend, and I've actually changed my mind and I hope she goes to Sony, all my non-H!P acts are a part of Sony, or from an indie label supported by Sony.
@Adamu, can I use your sig? I'll always support maki... :cry:
Yes! Anyone can use my sig if they want to, support 510!
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If Gocchin goes to Sony, my dream of a Maki x Mika duet would be almost possible :heart:
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wow, not really surprised due to all the commotion around her bro and absence in winter H!p, but i hope she 'll find a way to continue in the music business
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I don't know what to say, it's a big loss to H!P, Maki was one of the symbol of the golden era, and for me the best soloist in H!P...
H!P without her will not be the same, but Gocchin without H!P neither... :cry:
I'll still support her though.
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Pretty shocking. I think Gocchin could benefit from this though..
Same thought here. She was stuck in UFA/H!P and the youngest pupils are starting to stand out and getting all the attention. If only Maki can reborn like Ami Suzuki in Avex.. :)
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Using the farewell signature here as well.. It's a simple one, but it shows everything on it. Love it <333
I agree when people says her brother thing was just the detonator since I don't really think that's the main reason why she's leaving. One of the factors, yes. I think she was already consider leaving some time ago; after all, she wasn't participating in the H!P tour. Perhaps she was already considering giving something else to her solo career and that's why the differences between her and UpFront regarding the direction her music would take. I think what happened to her brother just accelerated what was already inevitable and was gonna happen anyways.
I also share the opinion Sony's the best option for her. She'd get a lot of freedom to do what she wants and even perhaps someday we'd able to listen to some song written by her. From this point of view, it's also an opportunity to get ride of the idol image to develop a new full artist.
I'll keep supporting Maki no matter what, Maki has developed as an artist good enough to take advantage of any chance she's given. And as well, Morning Musume and H!P no longer depend on their Golden Era members. I'm sure They can do good without Maki and Maki can do good without them.
I will always worship you my Goddess!!
MAKI FOREVER !!!
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only two things
good luck Maki, she is a great idol :farofflook:
and good luck hello project :fainted:
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Truly, an end of an era. I'm still really confused. She left because she was tired of management? The direction of her career?
She wants to sing MAKKING GOOD THINGS BETTAH!!
+1
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^ That's the weirdest.. She's leaving H!P, but according this (http://www.sanspo.com/geino/top/gt200710/gt2007102915.html), she won't leave her management nor UFA.
Good bye to my dreams of Maki being hired by Sony >.< ...
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^... This just stirs up the whole Maki + TNX thing even more because UFA partly = TNX... ><
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^ That's the weirdest.. She's leaving H!P, but according this (http://www.sanspo.com/geino/top/gt200710/gt2007102915.html), she won't leave her management nor UFA.
Good bye to my dreams of Maki being hired by Sony >.< ...
Yeah I read about it earlier.
*prays she's not going to NICE GIRL*
Although, can someone confirm if Sonim is a part of UFA or not, if she is there is still hope for Maki. Sonim is a part of a new girlgroup called tomboy, not only is their pv and single amazing, but I think the band is signed to avex, so who knows where Maki is going to end up.
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^ That's the weirdest.. She's leaving H!P, but according this (http://www.sanspo.com/geino/top/gt200710/gt2007102915.html), she won't leave her management nor UFA.
Good bye to my dreams of Maki being hired by Sony >.< ...
Nothing weird there. H!P is just one of UFA's clients (even though it is the biggest revenue they have). H!P, because of the nature of its artists, has certain "artistic paths" that it won't cover. Maki wants to get rid of the Idol thing, so she may want to do something like Emyli (also a UFA artist) http://www.emyli.net/
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Nothing weird there. H!P is just one of UFA's clients (even though it is the biggest revenue they have). H!P, because of the nature of its artists, has certain "artistic paths" that it won't cover. Maki wants to get rid of the Idol thing, so she may want to do something like Emyli (also a UFA artist) http://www.emyli.net/
Hope not.. Since Emyli's sales almost don't exist. H!P is actually UFA. The rest barely count (if not at all). What I meant by saying "weird", is why staying in UFA? Outside of H!P, UFA is nothing. Perhaps they just don't want Maki to leave them that easily. Maki staying in UFA makes me think this was something they had already talked about already, and the evil yakuza brother thing just pushed things up. Maki leaving H!P makes me think in Sony, Avex or anywhere else where she could evolved more as an artist. But staying in UFA, I hope at least they give her something back, like give her singles and albums a really good promotion.
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Official Statement ~
she graduated yesterday (October 28) .... she's no longer in H!P
http://www.helloproject.com/newslist/goto_0710290900.html
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f*** i'm gonna kill her brother, if that's the real reason why she's leaving H!P
But seriously i think it's more of some management issues that is unresolved because the news of her getting left out of the concert was way before his brother's arrest.
Ahh what the hell, she'll do much better with Sony or Avex. GO MAKI GO :pimp:
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damn... hope we get to find out which company she'll be signing with soon
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Maybe she wanted to leave and used the thing with her brother as an excuse to bail out.
Hopefully she'll sign to a company that gives her a good deal.
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More power to Gocchin, will be on the lookout for when she's on a new label.
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I never cared much about Maki, but I think it's good that she wants to stay in the business in the future, not like some other H!P members who had scandals and stopped working in the business >_>
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f*** i'm gonna kill her brother, if that's the real reason why she's leaving H!P
But seriously i think it's more of some management issues that is unresolved because the news of her getting left out of the concert was way before his brother's arrest.
Ahh what the hell, she'll do much better with Sony or Avex. GO MAKI GO :pimp:
But the official announcement seems to point to the fact that she leaves H!P, but remains under UpFront, so I don't see Avex there (maybe Sony, after all Zetima is under the wing of a Sony affiliate, and all Zetima records are distributed by Sony)
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There goes another of H!P's best. :(
Good luck to Gocchin. I hope the new company she signs with have plans of pushing her into the global stage. The world needs more of her.
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- UpFront makes official Goto Maki's graduation from Hello! Project via it's official homepage. After writing a brief description of who Gocchin was inside H!P, there is a comment from her:
"On October 28th I had graduated from Hello! Project. I am sorry for this sudden announcement.
I was part of Morning Musume at the age of 13, it's being almost my 9th year by the end of this year. Where I met lot of people and lot of feelings grew up me.
I was visualizing little by little the things I really want to do.
I wanted to be ready for it in the proper time to face by myself once again, so I opted for graduation.
Although my future is not clear yet, it will depends on what I can be able to do, and about my career as singer, I want to absorb various things, to change and keep going with my own power, and to progress more than now.
It had been worrying about what is necessary to tell you. Since everybody was there, now, I am here and I can be smiling.
This feeling of gratitude cannot be well expressed with words.
Sincerly, thank you very much.
I want to be together with everybody from now on.
Since everybody is my support.
Not as a member of Hello! but as Goto Maki, in a more personal way, I'll give my best.
Please keep supporting Maki Goto from now on."
- It has been reported Goto Maki will still be part of UpFront but not in Hello! Project.
the statement from Maki Goto....
so sad :(
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so leaving H!P but still under UFA. i guess if she under TNX, maybe she'll do just as good as when she's with H!P/UFA. and probably Tsunku will give her more creative freedom.
of course with the power SMEJ and AVEX have in the industry, working under them will be great opportunity.
and can't her friend koda kumi, whom is under Avex, help her do the transfer if she so desire after her contract with UFA expires.
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:thumbsup thanks for the heads up there zf87
Wow. I choked up reading that. I too have been following her since she was 13 and she just set the bar so HIGH. Soonk you Crackhead, hope this is a wake up call for him.
Y'all called it, paves the way for TNX. I like it, as long as she don't get preggo and ends up doing cooking shows with Martha Stewart or marrying some goatee'd drummer.
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i thought tsunku would have sign her..and i guess i was right... i think gocchin is still under UFA coz the contract is not up yet i guess, but her contract as H!P member was up, and she didnt want to re-sign it. well i dont really know these things, my mind is messed up right now, i cant think straight, im so hell of a worry over gocchin right now, tho i will continue supporting her to the end
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updated
- Tsunku comments about Goto Maki's graduation on his blog:
"It seems that Goto Maki determined the commence of a new life.
If i remember correctly, she joined when she was 13 years old, and joined this world, almost nine years.
Lot works have been made.
This artist named Goto Maki excited me with her imaginative power.
And various productions were able to be sent out to the world.
More than part of man's bravery, greater than a fairy tale story, makes me think "that's so cool, let's rock!".
Since there are a lot of facial expressions, we were able to do various works.
That's why it was determinated that Goto Maki had to graduate Hello! Project.
This decision will bring new productions with the new Goto Maki and will make her meet more people.
I'll really keep supporting her.
Sorry for all this speech. Also, keep fighting!"
hehe... seems like Tsunku feel sad too... :D
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Wow... in a way I'm glad she graduated, she was stuck there, we could see she wanted more than what H!P could give her, and Tsunku tried to give her a different look than what the rest of H!P has but she couldn't go further so I guess it's a good thing. Although, I'm scared she'll lose popularity.
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Just when I was thinking about reverting to Maki fangirlism... :-\
(Inside H!P, that's it.)
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Unless Maki burned her bridges by cursing out her bosses or staging a strike during the MM Tanjou 10nen tour instead of actually being sick, her split from H!P is probably an amicable one. It's happened before with Sayaka, who left MM/H!P to try a different kind of music with Cubic Cross. Sayaka wasn't treated like a pariah after she left. She was still given good promotion afterwards and was allowed to make appearances with the other girls on occasion. There's no reason yet to believe Maki didn't part on the same good terms.
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it's hard to say goodbye but it's a new start for Gocchin to express herself and i'm looking forward to her new career...
well good luck Gocchin!!!
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Don't worry, Gocchin needed to do this for various reasons like it's time for her to be a mature solo artist and not an icon. The HP stuff is fun for kids but she's been grown up now and needs to quickly find her style she wants to persue musically. With all the set backs this year, she'll have to rebuild her new style and move on which will be more difficult for her but must keep supporting her as she is and will be a great singer, dancer, model, performer, & artist! I wish her a great label that can finance finally a band and bigger shows for her which is something HP didn't provide. I'm looking forward to her future now. Let's keep supporting our inspiring Gocchin!
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^ Very well said, MG! :)
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hmm.. i don't understand why she is leaving h!p but still under UFA??? Is this means gocchin still have a contract with UFA or what??? I see this as an action from gocchin to take a little break from showbiz, as there r many problems related with her privacy. She need a break to build her live.... and maybe she also sick enough playing hide and seek with the media everyday, related with her brother.... I dunno what kind of feeling she had recently. But i think this is one of biggest part that will change her life.....
whatever she will do in the future, i will always supporting her and hope all the best for her.....just like she said...
Ganbare yo gocchin...
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more news headline ~
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20071028-00000024-dal-ent
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20071029-00000030-nks-ent
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20071029-00000045-spn-ent
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20071029-00000000-oric-ent
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Still not sure how to react, although her graduation concert introduced me to MM/H!P.
But unless there is 'More singing less Ground/Pole work' I'm not getting worked up again.
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DAMN YOU YUUKI!
Good Luck Maki.....Maybe star as another lesbian. @_@
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hmm.. i don't understand why she is leaving h!p but still under UFA??? Is this means gocchin still have a contract with UFA or what???
H!P is under UFA, they're a client (their biggest one). UFA is also responsible for a number of other artists/idols, not just H!P. That's why she can graduate from H!P, but still be a part of UFA.
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Still not sure how to react, although her graduation concert introduced me to MM/H!P.
Maki's graduation concert was one of the first things I saw when getting into H!P. I'd got a H!M and a bunch of random PV's (mainly MM and Mini Moni) off usenet and then her Grad concert TV special shortly after.
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To me, H!P is like 80% gravure idol n 20% professional singers... They are all focusing in selling the girls in watever ways like TV shows, mixed concerts, photo albums, clothings, dvds etc... I believe Maki have felt that she wanna to be pro singer 100% and not an idol. Thus its a good move to leave H!P and move onto a record company. :D
Although I would personally feel very sad not to see her new photos n goodies almost everyday :wub: but still I wish her all the best and would continue to support her and buy her records. ;)
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It seems to me UFA quickly wanted to clear the area by saying they still have here, but I'm unsure.
http://npn.co.jp/article/no/98947609/
This article from today Oct 29th quotes other showbiz producers assuring Maki is in contacts with Avex.
They also mention that the reason why Maki is graduating will possibly lead Miki and Aya to graduate H!P anytime soon as well.
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:cry: stop the rumors !!!! :cry:
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It seems to me UFA quickly wanted to clear the area by saying they still have here, but I'm unsure.
http://npn.co.jp/article/no/98947609/
This article from today Oct 29th quotes other showbiz producers assuring Maki is in contacts with Avex.
They also mention that the reason why Maki is graduating will possibly lead Miki and Aya to graduate H!P anytime soon as well.
Oh my Goddess!! HOPE THIS IS ACTUALLY TRUE!! It'd be a great finger to UFA!! :D Go Maki to AVEX!! I'd still prefer Sony, but AVEX is great as well!!
MAKI :heart: :heart: :heart: FOREVER !!!
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http://www.divshare.com/download/2560057-764
direct download to her Last Concert
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And here's a tracklist
Goto Maki LIVE TOUR 2007 G-EmotionII~How to use SEXY~
2007.10.28 Oomiya Sonic City [night]
01. Secret
02. How to use Loneliness
03. Some Boys! Touch
04. City Wind
MC
05. LOVE BELIEVE IT!
06. Afurechau... Be In Love
Men Dance Show
07. Ekizo na DISCO
08. Nee Samishikute
09. DAY BREAK
10. Himitsu
Dancers Show
11. LOVE LIKE CRAZY
12. WOW Suteki!
MC
13. LIKE A GAME
14. Daite yo! PLEASE GO ON
Encore1
MC
15. Glass no Pumps
Encore2
16. GIVE ME LOVE
17. Hips Don't Lie
MC
18. Ai no Bakayarou
MC - Dancer introduction
19. Secret (instrumental)
Encore3
MC
20. LIFE
21. Scramble
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It seems to me UFA quickly wanted to clear the area by saying they still have here, but I'm unsure.
http://npn.co.jp/article/no/98947609/
This article from today Oct 29th quotes other showbiz producers assuring Maki is in contacts with Avex.
They also mention that the reason why Maki is graduating will possibly lead Miki and Aya to graduate H!P anytime soon as well.
A Gomattou migration? :roll:
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yes, I found a similar news (rumors) about Gomaki is going to Avex @ one of Hong Kong's newspaper (http://hk.news.yahoo.com/071029/12/2ifrb.html)
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Her blog is now gone.
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yeah my friend told me a gossip that, the producer who signed ayu wants to sign gocchin. but until i hear confirm news im still :banghead:
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yeah my friend told me a gossip that, the producer who signed ayu wants to sign gocchin. but until i hear confirm news im still :banghead:
Talking about Max Matsuura? If that's the case, and we link it to the rumor about Ayaya and Miki, would that mean Max is trying to become his daughter's producer? How would that look?
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Her blog is now gone.
It's not gone, it's just overloaded due to a lot of traffic.
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^Woah? Aya's dad is a producer? never knew that
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I hope she can deal with avex because that can mean more promotion and better sales but idk...it's gonna be weird seeing her in another label :lol:
510 FOREVER!
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Talking about Max Matsuura? If that's the case, and we link it to the rumor about Ayaya and Miki, would that mean Max is trying to become his daughter's producer? How would that look?
I wasn't aware that Max Matsuura was Ayaya's father?
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I wasn't aware that Max Matsuura was Ayaya's father?
Somehow, I think it's that they just coincidentally have the same last name. If he really was/is her father, then he would have gotten her signed to Avex all these years instead of being in H!P.
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^ LOL Yeah XD
http://www.divshare.com/download/2560057-764
direct download to her Last Concert
Man....props for the linkage and tracklist grayo/Dano :bow: This is gonna be tough to listen to.
Wonder if it'll be for sale. Will she continue singing her hits?
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Will she continue singing her hits?
I'm going to say that it's a good chance she will because she's staying with UFA, but you never really know. Then again, on the other hand, if she wants to move away from her H!P/Idol image into something different, you never know. We may never hear her sing Some Boys! again!
I'll be REALLY upset if she doesn't. She has so many good ones that can not just be stuck in a vault. :pig refuse:
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Even after a while of knowing the news it doesn't make it any better :(
What a year for me to discover H!P :lol:
Its all so confusing still and I just wish she got a full on emotion packed proper graduation with the other members (who are sure to miss her) that we all got to see... I'm hoping she takes a break for now, after working so hard, and doesn't sign with anyone till after the 08 Winter concerts and crossing my fingers she is still with UFA then and a miracle happens and she gets a nice little farewell at the H!P concert (similar to Konkon's appearance for Muina and Asami this year).
Even though i haven't been a fan for all that long, nor have i known of her for too long, i will support her no matter where she goes.
:cry:
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^ LOL Yeah XD
http://www.divshare.com/download/2560057-764
direct download to her Last Concert
Man....props for the linkage and tracklist grayo/Dano :bow: This is gonna be tough to listen to.
Wonder if it'll be for sale. Will she continue singing her hits?
No prob, haha
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Goto Maki has updated her blog: http://blog.gotomaki.net/?day=20071029
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I wasn't aware that Max Matsuura was Ayaya's father?
Somehow, I think it's that they just coincidentally have the same last name. If he really was/is her father, then he would have gotten her signed to Avex all these years instead of being in H!P.
Well I alwasy thought he was, and from what I've read on the net he was too, but I could be mistaken!
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I wasn't aware that Max Matsuura was Ayaya's father?
Somehow, I think it's that they just coincidentally have the same last name. If he really was/is her father, then he would have gotten her signed to Avex all these years instead of being in H!P.
Well I alwasy thought he was, and from what I've read on the net he was too, but I could be mistaken!
They are totally unrelated. Dunno where you've read that, but it's BS!
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Goto Maki has updated her blog: http://blog.gotomaki.net/?day=20071029
Babelfish translate:
Furthermore important it informs, author: As for firewood me who am questioned, with yesterday October 28th, hello! You graduated project. The め it is do in suddenly announcement. At the time of 13 years old, morning the daughter. Joining, this year it entered 9th year. Various encounter impression grew me well. Among those, it reaching the point where the fact that by himself would like to do truly is imagined little by little. That now one time, we would like to make the time when by yourself you face thoroughly, you thought, decided graduation. From now on as for thing ahead, however it is not found yet, while keeping doing again to stare pursuit of the thing which it is possible to only Maki Goto, concerning your own music characteristic, it absorbs various thing, keeps changing into your own power, from now to before securely advancing to keep would like. How you should have said to everyone, the っ て it is, you probably have directly been troubled. Because everyone was, I now stay here and, you can be the smiling face. Not be able to express the feeling of the appreciation well in word, the て. Truly and truly thank you. Even from now on, we would like to be in everyone and simultaneous, it is. Therefore everyone supports, me. Is not hello as one member, by your as Maki Goto, keep persevering. Please watch over Maki Goto, directly even from now on.
In short, looks like she 'still wants to develop'.
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...In short, looks like she 'still wants to develop'.
She's aiming for an F cup? :shocked:
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Babelfish translate:
Pretty much what was said a few pages back I think.
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...In short, looks like she 'still wants to develop'.
She's aiming for an F cup? :shocked:
God I hope not. They're big enough already. Any more and it'll just be...eww.
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I'm listening to the concert rip right now. It's so sudden, and so shocking...
I mean, she will still be in the celebrity world, but still, having her not part of H!P anymore is going to be strange.
I would have been crying so hard if I were there, the moment is just so full of drama and serious.
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Helloproject has very limited resources, and they neglect people and focus on certain projects.
I wouldn't be suprised if her brother was acting as a crowbar to break her free from her
helloproject contract.
Basically embarrass them until they release her.
You never know.
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I was sad when I first read this... But as long as she's till singing, I'm happy. Whether she's still in UFA or goes elsewhere, hopefully she can get some more promotion. Just <i>please</i> let her still sing her H!P songs!
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I'm willing to bet that Hello! Project, specifically Tsunku, has ownership of all of her songs since he came up with and produced them. And if she wants to take her music in a new direction then she might not be too interested in singing her old songs. But what the hell do I know, eh? Only time will tell :yep:
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WHAT!! Shes leaving? Thats kinda sad. :(
But shes still going to be in UFA right?
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But shes still going to be in UFA right?
As of now, she will be. But no one knows if she'll stay permanently.
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Trying not to make a dee dee dee moment here, so her staying with UFA, is that kinda, in a sense, her last tie to H!P?
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OMG!!!! shocking news but i think that Maki could do it better in another company... i mean h!p is good but she can´t grow up so much in a company where one day you are the super solist and next day BANG! now you are a duo... anyway, i believe it was an interesting choice, and it was going to be hard without all the support of H!p, tsunku and the gang but with a good managere she can do it.
now, where she will go? what label is good enough for a talent like her? and plz don´t wanna read "TSUNKU SIGN HER TO TNX!!!" coz if she sign with TNX then def her bro do something XD
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^Woah? Aya's dad is a producer? never knew that
Her father is a truck driver.
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^ XD~!
anyway,, Gocchin would be much better of without UFA >.<
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Let me tell you the truth
Maki was really knocked up!!
Rly, it's true. I'm a personal friend of Maki. Trust me despite the fact that I have no sources. Please.
/sarcasm
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Let me tell you the truth
Maki was really knocked up!!
Rly, it's true. I'm a personal friend of Maki. Trust me despite the fact that I have no sources. Please.
/sarcasm
Gomen ~ :cry: (Taka-san style)
XD
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^lols, best use of that smilie ever
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Let me tell you the truth
Maki was really knocked up!!
Rly, it's true. I'm a personal friend of Maki. Trust me despite the fact that I have no sources. Please.
/sarcasm
more babies???? :kekeke:
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Let me tell you the truth
Maki was really knocked up!!
Rly, it's true. I'm a personal friend of Maki. Trust me despite the fact that I have no sources. Please.
/sarcasm
Gomen ~ :cry: (Taka-san style)
^lols, best use of that smilie ever
QFT!!! :wahaha:
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i also heard that when Goto Maki's contract with UFA ended at the end of year, she may be moving on to Avex. Since koda kumi is a close friend of Maki and is also part of Avex, i think she can get her in.
i believe it'll definitely be a great carreer move for Maki since Avex is one of the top music company in Japan, but i wonder how that will her relations with H!P/UFA. i hope there is no hard feelings and that they'll still be on good terms. wouldn't want her to lose her H!P friends, senpais and kouhais so suddenly...
OH YAH, seeing how goto Maki's image and style been lately, and comparing to several of Avex female artists, it seems that'll she probably fit in @ AVEX.
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^since when has she been close friends with Koda kumi?????
It said clearly in an article that she's been talking to some producer person for a long time(might've been a year not sure) so that's all been planned already for a while so there's nothing about sort of 'getting into' avex in that way.
ALSO it seems that Maki's leaving because she didnt like something about the way her music was going so we don't know what type of image she'll want to promote when she does start her new solo career.
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ALSO it seems that Maki's leaving because she didnt like something about the way her music was going so we don't know what type of image she'll want to promote when she does start her new solo career.
Well she kinda said she though Some boys! Touch was too sexy and she was feeling insecure in doing the pv didn't she?
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Yep, and that's why I said I wouldn't be surprised to see her tone down her sexy image some.
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for me, this is not SO SAD... maki can now improve and do it bigger with avex or sony. hope that she signs with avex, so i can see her in the next a-nation, performing with ai, ayu, namie and boa. imagine a show with these five stars. :inlove:
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I'm kind of sad, but if she can still stay active and get some interesting new material and style I'll be alright. ;)
Now I'm anxious to get some indication where Maki will turn up. Hope they don't wait months and months to give some kind of update on the situation.
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hullo... has somebody seen new flash magz??? there seem gocchin picture with a boy... anybody can clear this???
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Here's the Hello Online article:
http://www.hello-online.org/index.php?act=helloonline&CODE=news&topic=145
So apprentaly Maki was seeing this guy who was an accomplice of Yuuki with the cable stuff, and they haven't been in contact after Yuuki and the his ppl started stealing the cables.
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the real reason finally surfaces? :O
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I was almost expecting something like this.
The people in charge really need to think about the rules for the girls or they could end up with only a few kids left - who will grow up as well...
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They should I mean Maki is 22 and so was Mikitty I think by that age it shouldn't be considered a scandal but expected that they might be seeing someone. At least she broke it off with the guy before he helped steal. Sheesh. Can't say I'm surprised though that this is the truth.
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Here's the Hello Online article:
http://www.hello-online.org/index.php?act=helloonline&CODE=news&topic=145
So apprentaly Maki was seeing this guy who was an accomplice of Yuuki with the cable stuff, and they haven't been in contact after Yuuki and the his ppl started stealing the cables.
Taking a pic with a guy equals that she should be his gf? Jesus, I could be her bf then.
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They say they haven't been in contact since he started stealing, which means Maki is a good girl! She's not datin no gangsta!! Go Maki!! I would do the same thing! "You're doing WHAT? you think that's cool? Well being single must be cool too then!!"
Anyway, what I'm finding surprising is that NO PICS of her last moments have come out. WHERE ARE THEY?
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And technically, she didn't leave ON a scandal, so I'm even more proud of her :)
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I find this a bit weird since the H!P agency doesn't allow the girls to date. Plus why didn't we hear about this in 2005 in the news? They would have been chased by reporters if Gocchin was dating at Disneyland! This magazine I wonder is just trying to make up a scandal? Can Arian or Romi find the truth to this as they are the ones that actually know her.
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really shocking after i read the article in H!O..... it's like.. broken heart... and end of the days....... but... never mind... i already predicted this kind of situations, since there always something strange in her news related with her personal life....... her personal life never reveal completely...... hmm... maybe this is not true, but i kind of happy that she didn't contact him anymore.....
I always think that she might be already had a bf, and when that situations reveal, i won't e surprised.... but with the fact that he is 2 years younger than yuuki is pissed me off.... and than with the fact that she paid for the date and he stay in her house is fucking annoying... i hate it...... i think gocchin deserve someone better than him........
with this shocking news i've got no idea what she's gonna do in d future....just hope all d best for her.....
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I find this a bit weird since the H!P agency doesn't allow the girls to date. Plus why didn't we hear about this in 2005 in the news? They would have been chased by reporters if Gocchin was dating at Disneyland! This magazine I wonder is just trying to make up a scandal? Can Arian or Romi find the truth to this as they are the ones that actually know her.
they don't allow girls in MM to date and if they're not in MM the company must be informed(as we have found from iida and Nono's cases) but they are allowed to date if they keep it low profile.
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Well it sounds to me like a unverified gossip at this point. The only thing that gives it credence is the pictures (have seen dozens just like them before) and all the other stuff going on. Which to me makes it seem fishy that it would come out after the fact with no source given for the info. Have there ever been any HP stories in Flash that were ever found out to be true or have any ramifications at all?
At this point, I don't think I would mind a whole lot if she really was seeing someone anyway. Someone like that kid would be odd though. I'm way better than him. :grin:
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I'm guessing FLASH knows Goto graduating was a big deal, so everyone will be talking about it as a result, and they decide to do a "story" on her because they know it'll be talked about like crazy. And c'mon, a picture with a guy doesn't instantly make them a 'couple', I'd have tons of boyfriends by now too if that were the case :-\ And the purikura looked cut off, maybe there was even more than one person a part of it.
Until confirmed otherwise, it's all BS, people.
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I'm guessing FLASH knows Goto graduating was a big deal, so everyone will be talking about it as a result, and they decide to do a "story" on her because they know it'll be talked about like crazy. And c'mon, a picture with a guy doesn't instantly make them a 'couple
QFT, imo.
I not going to believe any of that unless Maki were to say it was all true
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I'm guessing FLASH knows Goto graduating was a big deal, so everyone will be talking about it as a result, and they decide to do a "story" on her because they know it'll be talked about like crazy. And c'mon, a picture with a guy doesn't instantly make them a 'couple', I'd have tons of boyfriends by now too if that were the case :-\ And the purikura looked cut off, maybe there was even more than one person a part of it.
Until confirmed otherwise, it's all BS, people.
Thank you twoheart! I didn't want to see this start another gossip thread and lead to a totally off conclusion! Let's all try to ignore this article which is as you can tell not accurate at all and keep showing our love and support for our dear Gocchin!
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I'm guessing FLASH knows Goto graduating was a big deal, so everyone will be talking about it as a result, and they decide to do a "story" on her because they know it'll be talked about like crazy. And c'mon, a picture with a guy doesn't instantly make them a 'couple', I'd have tons of boyfriends by now too if that were the case :-\ And the purikura looked cut off, maybe there was even more than one person a part of it.
Until confirmed otherwise, it's all BS, people.
Yeah. From what I've read on H!O, FLASH seems to be one of those tabloids that makes up stories out of thin air and some suggestive photos. Friday's stories usually have some grain of truth to them, but FLASH and Bubka's stories are just 100% pure doink pyon.
As for Gocchin's graduation, I too was really :shocked: :shocked: when I heard the news. When I got into H!P, Goto Maki was one of the first people I gravitated to (probably because she was the 'ace' of MoMusu back then) and I liked her a lot. As a fan, I wish her to have even more success in the future. To be honest, I can see why she would want to leave H!P having been in it ever since she was a teen...now that she is in her 20s she probably wants more freedom to do the kind of music she wants and find her own image.
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Even though I got interested in H!P seriously late in the game, Goto Maki was one of the huge parts of it really.
I've been pretty out of it recently, but having read all the stories on her graduation and all just leave me in total disarray, its like no other reaction but "whoa..." She was a huge asset to H!P, but like many have said, she wasn't truly going anywhere. I'll look forward to what she'll be doing, maybe it'll be the best thing ever!
It does make me worry for H!P, but thats just a constant feeling now, isn't it.
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Wow, I just read the new update on H!O, and it looks like that sukeban deka guy had his facts right about Maki leaving showbiz, for now. I can't remember reading about UFA not letting her go to the hospital though.
http://www.hello-online.org/index.php?act=helloonline&CODE=news&topic=145
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She hasn't been looking well lately, quite pale and gaunt.
I suspect she has chronic fatigue, and needs at least half year's rest.
She used to wake early in the AM and not get enough sleep.
Imagine waking up, drive to dance practice, voice practice,
new song learning, photo shoot, exercise, radio appearance,
tv appearance, come home and sleep. 4 hour sleep with bad headache and
restless, even in her blog she tells hints.
Many special people came to sudden final show, and it may be the case where she is so sick she might not
return to show business. Even Taka-san from Utaban showed concern for her long ago,
if people remember..
Her complexion is not good, I hope it is not kidney problems.
Let us wish her recovery, however long it takes. Even if forever, we
admire her enough that we can say goodbye if she needs to care for health.
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Oh wow, I had never realized it had become so bad for her.
I really, sincerely hope she's doing all right and she deserves all the rest she can get. It doesn't really matter how long it is, her health should be her top priority. As for her not returning to show business, well that would indeed make me sad. But, it may be for the best.
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I'm really worried. Her health is the main priority now and I hope she does take a lot of rest and gets better, but the fact she's quitting showbiz altogether. It's really upsetting.
I don't know how to feel right now because everythings so up in the air and I don't know if anything is true or not, but it's just heartbreaking.
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You all do realize that the article on hello-online says "According to a japanese community, Goto Maki not only quited Hello! Project, but the entire showbiz."
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I wanna cries after reading the new update from H!O.... I see how gocchin is also wonderful as person, after I read that takahashi ai cries a lot after knowing about gocchin graduation and fly to japan to attend her concert...... if i wasn't mistaken, namie amuro is also said attended the concert... this made me more and more love gocchin as person.....
Thought she might wouldn't be in show biz industry anymore, i'll always keep supporting her..... Ganbarre yo Gocchin!!!
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see, that's what happens when everyone just focus too much on her .... ummm ... dance too much ....
her huge ..... ummm ..... amount of work must really made her .... ummm .... stomach problems worsen ...... poor girl :cry:
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takahashi ai cries a lot after knowing about gocchin graduation and fly to japan to attend her concert!!!
Made me a bit sad when I read that. Anways, I hope Maki feels a lot better and all.
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So, when will MM's and C-ute's and Berryz's schedules (which are WAY more packed than Maki's was) start making the girls sick? (that is, if you really believe her health problems were work related).
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^ I wasn't exactly pertaining to the health problems, just with what's been going on these past weeks.
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So, when will MM's and C-ute's and Berryz's schedules (which are WAY more packed than Maki's was) start making the girls sick? (that is, if you really believe her health problems were work related).
Different things make different people sick.
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Sorry, modesta107, my last post was not aimed at you, but at all those that seem to believe in something said by an anonymous "japanese community" about Maki's health problems. I'm not saying she had no real problems, all I'm saying is that most people on this forum kept complaining in the past about Maki not getting much exposure, or not going to enough TV shows, or tours being too short, etc... and now they all say "oh, God, UFA overworked her and made her sick"
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Sorry, modesta107, my last post was not aimed at you, but at all those that seem to believe in something said by an anonymous "japanese community" about Maki's health problems.
Indeed, to so quickly believe something which comes from such a "vague" source...sometimes one just wants to shake one's head in disbelief.
I'm not saying she had no real problems, all I'm saying is that most people on this forum kept complaining in the past about Maki not getting much exposure, or not going to enough TV shows, or tours being too short, etc... and now they all say "oh, God, UFA overworked her and made her sick"
Sounds pretty hypocritical, doesn't it? It's like one day saying one of the girls needs to eat more, then the next complaining about her "gaining weight".
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Honestly, I'm not even going to react to "news" unless an official source confirms it.
Simple as that.
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Honestly, I'm not even going to react to "news" unless an official source confirms it.
Simple as that.
QFT, I guess whoever wrote the at H!O update should have put [unconfirmed] with it
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Honestly, I'm not even going to react to "news" unless an official source confirms it.
Simple as that.
QFT. H!O didn't even give the name of the "Japanese community" that said that Maki is quitting show business altogether because of health problems caused by UFA. For all we know it could have been 2ch. I wouldn't trust 2ch's rumors.
It amazes me how people are so quick to believe things because LYK OMG A JAPANESE COMMUNITY SAID IT!!111!!!! Haven't they ever heard of considering the source and being skeptical about what you read online, especially unconfirmed "news"? If Maki was leaving show business altogether don't you think she would have made a statement like that in her blog or in the official H!P announcement, or at least alluded to it? But no, the H!O commenters believe in "if it's on the intarweb it must be tr00!!111!!!".
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I have a feeling if she does continue, it'll be sexy, but not raunchy like SB!T. She said she wanted to be like Beyonce or Janet Jackson. I wouldn't mind her image going in that direction.
But for right now, I just hope she releases.
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QFT. H!O didn't even give the name of the "Japanese community" that said that Maki is quitting show business altogether because of health problems caused by UFA. For all we know it could have been 2ch. I wouldn't trust 2ch's rumors.
That "Japanese community" has same source as me. And there is a reason why H!O cannot offer the name of that "Japanese community". Don't ask further about it because it's confidential.
It amazes me how people are so quick to believe things because LYK OMG A JAPANESE COMMUNITY SAID IT!!111!!!! Haven't they ever heard of considering the source and being skeptical about what you read online, especially unconfirmed "news"? If Maki was leaving show business altogether don't you think she would have made a statement like that in her blog or in the official H!P announcement, or at least alluded to it? But no, the H!O commenters believe in "if it's on the intarweb it must be tr00!!111!!!".
A member of H!O has direct connection with that "Japanese Community" and he has a very good reason to believe what they say just like he believes what I say.
And why do you think the blog is written by Gocchin herself? I thought it's so obvious that she doesn't edit it herself?
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there is a reason why H!O cannot offer the name of that "Japanese community". Don't ask further about it because it's confidential.
I didn't know the Gotos are in the Mafia .... that just made PERFECT sense ^_^
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Maki will compete with Koda Kumi
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QFT. H!O didn't even give the name of the "Japanese community" that said that Maki is quitting show business altogether because of health problems caused by UFA. For all we know it could have been 2ch. I wouldn't trust 2ch's rumors.
That "Japanese community" has same source as me. And there is a reason why H!O cannot offer the name of that "Japanese community". Don't ask further about it because it's confidential.
It amazes me how people are so quick to believe things because LYK OMG A JAPANESE COMMUNITY SAID IT!!111!!!! Haven't they ever heard of considering the source and being skeptical about what you read online, especially unconfirmed "news"? If Maki was leaving show business altogether don't you think she would have made a statement like that in her blog or in the official H!P announcement, or at least alluded to it? But no, the H!O commenters believe in "if it's on the intarweb it must be tr00!!111!!!".
A member of H!O has direct connection with that "Japanese Community" and he has a very good reason to believe what they say just like he believes what I say.
And why do you think the blog is written by Gocchin herself? I thought it's so obvious that she doesn't edit it herself?
You know what? All this "it is a secret, they would kill us if we reveal the source" is NONSENSE. If what you (as a special and personal friend of Maki) and that "secret yakuza japanese community" say is true, why doesn't Maki come up and say it now that she's graduated? If she cares about her fans, she should tell them she's quitting for good, because fans are waiting for her return to the stage. We (and I mean the fans that are not personal friends with her like you) seem to believe more in her caring about us than those supposedly close to her. And not only should she make it clear to her fans, but also to the companies she has image contracts with (like SanDisk, she's the image of the SanDisk Sansa).
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It's not like most of us can do anything about it if we knew the "source" anyway, we're not all in Japan :-\
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She got Hyperemesis gravidarum (not gastritis) during the MM10 Tour, but got misdiagnosed. Now it's too late to do anything about it, so the only choice she have is to quit. Don't ask further about it because it's confidential.
EDIT: Yep, that's also the reason why her boobs are bigger.
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That "Japanese community" has same source as me. And there is a reason why H!O cannot offer the name of that "Japanese community". Don't ask further about it because it's confidential.
Oh Really?? I kinda thought that you were the one that had told H!O about this news concerning Maki ^-^
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She got Hyperemesis gravidarum (not gastritis) during the MM10 Tour, but got misdiagnosed. Now it's too late to do anything about it, so the only choice she have is to quit. Don't ask further about it because it's confidential.
EDIT: Yep, that's also the reason why her boobs are bigger.
Errr.. Where did you hear about that?
Are you sure that's right? If she did have that, she would have to be pregnant.
Hyperemesis gravidarum (from Greek hyper and Latin emesis and gravida; meaning "excessive vomiting of pregnant women") is a severe form of morning sickness, with unrelenting, excessive pregnancy-related nausea and/or vomiting that prevents adequate intake of food and fluids.[1] Hyperemesis is considered a rare complication of pregnancy but, because nausea and vomiting during pregnancy exist on a continuum, there is no clear boundary between common morning sickness and hyperemesis. Estimates of the percentage of pregnant women afflicted range from 0.3% to 2%.
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eh ?! you didn't know ?
Let me tell you the truth
Maki was really knocked up!!
Rly, it's true. I'm a personal friend of Maki. Trust me despite the fact that I have no sources. Please.
/sarcasm
Gomen ~ :cry: (Taka-san style)
Not even the "secret Japanese Community" knows about this XD
I know about this because I did that to her and I'm the one who responsible to report all her medical test ....... oops ........ did I just say that out loud ??
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all these random people who keep commenting on the this as 'personal friends' and 'confidential insiders' or whatever just keep clouding the actual subject. so now im really confused. you can have all the speculations in the world, but we should just wait for official news.
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we should just wait for official news.
that's what I was trying to say -_-"" but everyone loves gossip XD
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we should just wait for official news.
that's what I was trying to say -_-"" but everyone loves gossip XD
i wasn't actually referring to you chokkan, just everyone arguing in general. :P
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I had a question about all this too,
does that mean the UMAI will close soon? :'(
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I had a question about all this too,
does that mean the UMAI will close soon? :'(
Not close, but move to a more appropriate section of the forum when we have a more definite idea of what's going to happen with her career and probably "re-start" the whole thing.
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I had a question about all this too,
does that mean the UMAI will close soon? :'(
Not close, but move to a more appropriate section of the forum when we have a more definite idea of what's going to happen with her career and probably "re-start" the whole thing.
Ok thanks!
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There's a new article over at H!O talking about some of the things we've been discussing here. I still don't understand why H!O (well just the article writers) are being a little 'secretive' about the Maki info.It's not like Maki and her ppl are going to hunt them or us down if it's revealed..could they? XD I'm not trying to bash them because I'm over at H!O too, and it's a nice place. I'm still sensing a certain someone has something to do with this.. :lol: ,o well, I'm still waiting for offical news from Maki and her ppl.
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Pfff ~ sounds like totally f-king BS to me XD
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There's a new article over at H!O talking about some of the things we've been discussing here. I still don't understand why H!O (well just the article writers) are being a little 'secretive' about the Maki info.It's not like Maki and her ppl are going to hunt them or us down if it's revealed..could they? XD
That's what I don't understand too. I mean, you could give us the password to the exclusive Goto Maki club where only super elite members/stalkers of Goto and those who personally know her can join and tell us that's where you got your info and most of us still wouldn't be able to do anything about it, we'd just want REAL news.
Tabloids are having a party up until now because of Goto's graduation, because they can come up with all kinds of stories about "why" she left. Typical tabloid nature, people. With her graduation came questions which they were so willing to "answer".
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Question: Is H!O, (and their source) the only one saying that Maki has left UF, and showbiz? I've wondered what ppl, like at places like 2ch are saying or know about this.
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^ Despite what's currently happening with this whole Maki thing, H!O is still waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more credible than most of the stuff you'll get from 2ch.
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^ Despite what's currently happening with this whole Maki thing, H!O is still waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more credible than most of the stuff you'll get from 2ch.
Lol,true, never been at 2ch, but from the things I've heard....
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One thing that makes doinkies skeptical about H!O's report is that they said that Ai immediately left Korea by herself to see Maki's concert when she heard the news. Here's what reyfer said in the comments at H!O:
1 - If what Maki and UFA said in the OFFICIAL statement is true, she was planning this for a while, and she surely told Koha and Gaki-san as members of 10nen Kinentai, so Aichan already knew.
2 - Aichan and Koha and Gaki-san were in Korea on the first official promotional tour by MM on that country, with a schedule prepared weeks in advance, so it would have been irresponsible of MM's leader to fly away and leave her co-members alone, and also a disrespect for the Korean fans and hosts.
3 - They had a last radio interview before getting on the plane that flew back ALL THREE OF THEM on the 28th AS SCHEDULED, arriving in Japan with plenty of time to attend the concert. So no need to leave all and take a plane on her own.
I pretty much agree with reyfer here...if Ai had gone away by herself, UFA would definitely be upset at her for leaving Risa and Koharu alone and abandoning her schedule/disrespecting the Korean fans.
But really, I just find it completely stupid to not reveal the source of your news and try to say "it's a seeeekrit!1111!" like ninjas are going to come after you if you reveal the name of the "Japanese community". At least give us some hints as to the nature of the community, like, is it a message board? An SNS community? Do people from UFA post there? Do close friends of H!P members post there? etc.
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Man, I've been fighting against the urge to write this, but I just can't hold it back anymore, lol
Does anyone remember that Goto's family has or used to have a restaurant where ordinary people, yes even fans, could go to dine and talk to the family members or (if they were lucky) even Maki? I first heard about it in 2004 when Time Bokan wrote at jpop.com that he had seen Maki there, and I've heard other stories about it since.
I'm just saying...
Because of this, I believe the source that H!O has... Maki seems to be the easiest H!P member to have a 'secret' source on because of the history of her family running a restaurant, and fans frequenting there. And about people having to prove it... How on earth could they possibly do that?? If I knew a H!P member personally I wouldn't go disturbing their privacy any more than needed (by taking pics of places where we met or pics of us together. That would be so disrespectful, not to mention the agency doesn't allow the girls to take pics with fans, no matter how close they were with her!). It's just that this piece of info has to do with her career, so these fans who know something want to inform the others, too. And I hope that in the future they will continue to do this because I sure am curious to hear it. I also don't believe they have any reason to lie about something like this. (I mean the parts about her not being signed with any other company yet, and having planned quitting since summer, and doing it because of other reasons than her brother or some 'boyfriend')
And I think it's a well-known thing that the bigger the company, the more they can afford to be assholes to their employees. Just look at WWE. They've had fricking half their main cast injured during the past year, but people still come to their shows. So why should they stop overworking their employees? What they're doing is clearly working for them! Of course we don't know what happens behind the curtain in UFA, but I don't really have a reason to think it's any prettier than anywhere else in entertainment industry. I mean if you really think about it, Maki quitting isn't going to change anything. There will still be like 40+ girls in H!P concerts. If Maki's not bringing in the money, they'll find some other way to make it.
What I don't believe is that Maki hasn't had any plastic surgery on her breasts. But that's a whole other story :P
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In the end, "why" she graduated isn't that important for me as where she's going to go now. As I said before, she just wasn't fitting H!P's style anymore and she wanted out for 'creative differences' with UFA (which she's had for a long while already), whether that's the reason or one of them.
Now, I just want to know where she'll be heading, her plans.
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I wanna believe H!O, I mean, I guess it's just the way they wrote their article, y'now. I mean if it's true, then state it with confidence. Stuff like "we decided to reveal some stuff, and others along that line is confusing me a bit. If they knew that stuff around the time she graduated H!P, they should have put it there right away.
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japanese community = 2ch lol
they just don't wanna look unreliable ;D
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I guess the whole point of them not revealing 'the almighty source' or anything is that they don't want to jeopardise their future information from 'the almighty source'... Of course by doing that they are putting themselves out there to people not believing them. I don't think its so much that they have to keep quiet so we don't track 'the almighty source' down, but more they are trying to keep a level of trust and respect with whatever place it is they get the info... On that note, H!O's report does seem weird and awkward to me with the 'new' information so I'm just taking it all with a grain of salt for now coz its too confusing and i am blond after all :P
Maki my dear, come out of hiding and say something damn u! :angry:
In the end, "why" she graduated isn't that important for me as where she's going to go now. As I said before, she just wasn't fitting H!P's style anymore and she wanted out for 'creative differences' with UFA (which she's had for a long while already), whether that's the reason or one of them.
Now, I just want to know where she'll be heading, her plans.
I agree, i think for the most part, why she left is kinda clear but knowing how long we will have to wait to have her back and where she will be is the important thing.
What I don't believe is that Maki hasn't had any plastic surgery on her breasts. But that's a whole other story :P
:rofl: That cracked me up coming at the end of everything else you said :lol: XD
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I guess the whole point of them not revealing 'the almighty source' or anything is that they don't want to jeopardise their future information from 'the almighty source'...
The source was Sukeban Deka, he did post a thread here awhile ago but I guess the way he writes things online is a bit difficult for people to really believe in. lol I don't blame anyone for thinking "wtf is this guy saying? he knows Maki personally?"
But I think he doesn't understand our point of view on the matter. The fact that how does ANYONE get to regularly meet their favourite idol is probabably way to much for all of us to handle, hence the immediate disbelief.
But it's ok, nobody has to believe anything and I won't try to convince anybody.
**I did actually have a write up about my Izakaya experiences in Japan but I decided it probably wouldn't change a thing anyway even if I did post it XD so sorry that now I sound like one of those "elite fans" who keep all the secrets XD**
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I guess the whole point of them not revealing 'the almighty source' or anything is that they don't want to jeopardise their future information from 'the almighty source'...
The source was Sukeban Deka, he did post a thread here awhile ago but I guess the way he writes things online is a bit difficult for people to really believe in. lol I don't blame anyone for thinking "wtf is this guy saying? he knows Maki personally?"
But I think he doesn't understand our point of view on the matter. The fact that how does ANYONE get to regularly meet their favourite idol is probabably way to much for all of us to handle, hence the immediate disbelief.
But it's ok, nobody has to believe anything and I won't try to convince anybody.
I do not have a problem with 'Sukeban Deka' knowing Maki 'personally' or meeting her or what ever, it is the writing style that doesn't come over as factual and trustworthy.
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In the end, "why" she graduated isn't that important for me as where she's going to go now. As I said before, she just wasn't fitting H!P's style anymore and she wanted out for 'creative differences' with UFA (which she's had for a long while already), whether that's the reason or one of them.
Now, I just want to know where she'll be heading, her plans.
yeah i also think this is the most important thing. we all just want to know if she's ok and when she's coming back to do all the stuff we love to watch her do, lol. like lots of other people have said, i just wish she could just come out and say it.
i have faith! lol. :D
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I'm starting to think something was up with this sudden graduation.
If it was planned and consented, there would be a video of her last LIFE and it would be on the DVD. Something is funny.
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I still don't believe H!O. Want to know why?
Why do I have this gut feeling that one of my BBS members went to you because I wouldn't let him state the same things without inklings of proof?
Would you fans like to see what I mean? And if this gets deleted by the H!O staff I know I'm right.
here (http://www.bokunojpop.com/forum/index.php?s=499e8068b4f3a93dd8943ae0abef1f45&showtopic=23293&view=findpost&p=533551)
I've lost some faith in the H!O team.
on the comments
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I didn't like her music with H!P anyways so meh...
It'll be interesting to see what exactly does happen over this and what is truth and what isn't but I'm not gonna get myself worked up about it.
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I still don't believe H!O. Want to know why?
Why do I have this gut feeling that one of my BBS members went to you because I wouldn't let him state the same things without inklings of proof?
Would you fans like to see what I mean? And if this gets deleted by the H!O staff I know I'm right.
here (http://www.bokunojpop.com/forum/index.php?s=499e8068b4f3a93dd8943ae0abef1f45&showtopic=23293&view=findpost&p=533551)
I've lost some faith in the H!O team.
on the comments
I don't understand how it could be a reason of you not to believe H!O.
Could you pls rephrase your logic?
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I don't understand how it could be a reason of you not to believe H!O.
Could you pls rephrase your logic?
what logic ???
we don't need stinking "logic" to tell us what to believe ~
I believe virgin can be give birth to a child that can walk on water and raise from the death, but I still don't believe in that stupid "health problem"
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I don't understand how it could be a reason of you not to believe H!O.
Could you pls rephrase your logic?
what logic ???
we don't need stinking "logic" to tell us what to believe ~
I believe virgin can be give birth to a child that can walk on water and raise from the death, but I still don't believe in that stupid "health problem"
You are missing the point here.
I asked Masabi because he said he doesn't believe HO due to the quoted post by other forum user.
I checked that quoted post myself and wonder how that could make Masabi not to believe HO's information.
You know that quoted post doesn't have any proof and ground at all.
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doesn't have any proof and ground ??
so did the "health problem"
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doesn't have any proof and ground ??
so did the "health problem"
You know it's irrelevant to my question to Masabi's post, right?
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yeah, so ??
you are asking Masabi, not me, remember ?? Who said I have to be relevant to your question ??
btw, I'm NOT off-topic XD
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*yawns and kicks back*
I'll leave people to 'argue' to and fro about the reasons, the suspicions, the secret sources, etc. Like I said, at this point, it doesn't matter why she left. She just wasn't H!P material any more, she knew that herself for years already and I'm still proud of her for basically giving UFA the big FU! and deciding to graduate, so to speak XD
I'm just going to wait as patiently as I can for news on her new path in her career.
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yeah, I really miss the old Gomaki, not the "SBT" Maki ~ I really hate that image .... I don't even own any "Sexy Maki" related stuff. I'm really glad she left.
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yeah, I really miss the old Gomaki, not the "SBT" Maki ~
Same, but I did like the Glass No Pumps Maki, even though it's a bit like SBT Maki. :lol:
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She had fun with her sexy image though, you could see it, even if she had her doubts about it and how she was handling it, it was fun. A lot of women have fun sexing things up once in a while, but I believe Goto didn't want that kind of image to stick, which I think is what the company was wanting for her.
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GNP is ok, but SBT really ticks me off .......
don't ask me why ..... I have no idea ..... (I'm a major-league Perv, but somehow I hate it)
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Is there any reason why she would say that shes still with UFA is shes not?
... thats kinda what makes me think its a bit weird.
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She had fun with her sexy image though, you could see it, even if she had her doubts about it and how she was handling it, it was fun.
yeah... she's like struggle to make her sexy image... so i think it's not her natural... obviously in SBT...
about the graduation....maybe she doesn't like with the management directions.... so, maybe back then she has already been planning to graduates.... and.. that plan grow stronger with some factors that u people discuss here....
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Is there any reason why she would say that shes still with UFA is shes not?
... thats kinda what makes me think its a bit weird.
Maybe her contract won't end until the end of the year(or more) and UFA doesn't want her to say she's out of it just in case she changes her mind by that time.
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Is there any reason why she would say that shes still with UFA is shes not?
... thats kinda what makes me think its a bit weird.
Because of her contract expiration. Hers ended with H!P, but not yet with UFA, she couldn't officially leave them unless they were both expired.
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i dont know where to post this, but i do want to say sth, i want to apologize to gocchin, everyday i keep asking y did she leave to myself, and i c ppl posting bunch of rumours n arguments on y she left and all that then i start asking myself, y cant she come out and say sth, she has totally ruin my mind. but over the weekend i started to think things differently, i start viewing things her way. and i realize how selfish i was, all i cared about was her entertaining me and her leaving just left me no entertainment, i never cared about gocchin in this. i didnt give a 2nd thought to that she might be just wanting a vacation, or she's ill thats y she wants to quit for now and break. and i saw some ppl posting sth similar like "damn it maki come out n say sth, stop hiding" hey guys its her life we have no right to tell her wat to do, give gocchin some freedom pls, this could even be one of the reason y she quits, every1 takes her business like its their's, no its not! if u really luv her stop making up rumours and arguments, just wait guys, im sure our girl wont leave us like this... :)
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I so damn agree with you there Yoshitsune!!!!!!!
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if u really luv her stop making up rumours and arguments, just wait guys, im sure our girl wont leave us like this... :)
yep, that's why I'm so pissed when people making rumors about her leaving H!P without any proof at all.
even if her "health problem" is real, I'm 100% sure that the source is NOT from her friends .... just some stupid Gomaki-stalkers pretending to be her friends and desperately trying to be popular .... real friends won't betray .... I know because I got a friend who used to be a singer in Taiwan .... I won't starting rumors about her @ any forums !!!!!
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I agree.
She should refresh her self and when she is ready, I am sure we will all be happy.
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Agreed, she should just come when everything blows off. ( the whole Yuki trials and stuff)
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yea i agree. i think if she does come back, she's gonna make a BIG hit. kinda like whitney houston in that one movie..uh...bodyguard! that's it
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Maki's gonna come back like Whitney?
(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8328/whitneynyfv0.jpg)
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Maki's gonna come back like Whitney?
(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8328/whitneynyfv0.jpg)
LMAO! I pray to god not like that :lol:
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Hopefully Maki will continue to make music. I liked some of the songs she did.
She shouldn't end like whitney
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:lol:
i meant she is going to back with a song that she put her heart and soul into. a real deep one!
man that response is hilarious!